Final Fantasy VI on-going review thing

*****MAJOR SPOILER WARNING!!! THIS THREAD WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR THE WHOLE GAME AS I REVIEW THE STORYLINE AND STUFF AS I GO ON!!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!*****

Having bought the game on Friday, and having realised that I had some work due in on Monday (d’oh), I haven’t had much chance to play the game as much as I have wanted. Still, I’ve made some progress, so I figured I’d start a thread where I can put down my thoughts of the game as I go along, and see what everyone thinks of that point of the game aswell.

Anyway, we’ll begin, as normal, at the beginning.

The first thing I note is that the FMV is pretty impressive, as usual, from Squaresoft. The graphics in the actual gaming environment are pretty good if you consider the technology used for them aswell. One problem I note straight away is the length of time loading into the battle and exiting the battle. This detracts from my initial impression of the game. Still, it’s a conversion, so that’s probably why it takes so long to load.

Storyline wise, seems ok to begin with. Have reached the mountains where Sabin went off to. There have been some funny moments in the game, like with Edgar talking to Terra in Figaro castle and the conversation in the middle of a battle on escape. (Love it… You’re involved in a life or death battle against two people in magitek armour, and then Locke and Edgar suddenly jump off screen and start talking… All the while, the soldiers are suddenly frozen in time and cannot act.)

Hopefully I can play some more today and update before I go to sleep.

(EDIT:- Have managed to get to the part where the quest splits to three groups, with Sabin in one, Locke in the other and Terra / Edgar / Banon in the third. Still think the game has some funny dialogue in it, like Locke to Terra:- "Please do not let a lecherous King, whose name shall remain unspoken, get anywhere near you…" Classic.)

So far it’s been OK but I prefer FF7-9. The graphics are OK for the time the game was made, the gameplay is good and the story is OK. Unfortunately, the soundtrack isnt anything to right home about.

Whoa!
Good job ! keep on going like this !

Okay, haven’t made much progress today due to one of my mate’s birthdays, but I’ve chosen the Sabin side quest and have had Cyan and Shadow join the party. So far, I can say that there isn’t anyone I dislike for the party who’s fought thusfar. Normally in a FF game, I find one character who I say "Yep, this one is a stayer in my party." At the moment in this playthrough, all of the characters could viably be a part of my final party, and it could be tricky to choose.

One funny part, just after the Doma incident, is when Sabin and Cyan are discussing the Magitek armour. Sabin says to Cyan:- "Thou art a pain in the… Now you’ve got me talking like that!" Humour like this appeals to me… I hope the rest of the game follows this as it could slowly take over from FF VII as my favourite FF ever.

EDIT:- LMAO at Sabin’s reaction to the aged man in the hut. "I’d rather be stabbed in the eye with a stick than talk to this old guy again." :lol

EDIT 2:- Let’s keep this up anyways. Just completed the Phantom train section. Does Shadow leave the party at a random time? He just upped it and legged it away during the middle of a fight in the forest, and I wasn’t expecting it, as a friend told me that he was involved right until the end of the phantom train segment… Oh well! Gotta admit that Sabin is one of my favourite characters at the mo. Just gotta love Aurabolt, even if it’s a complete bitch to pull off sometimes.

I’m at the part where you have to fight this painting it’s pretty hard my levels are 31 32 33 35

Glad to see we’re all making progress. I just wish I had less work on so I could concentrate more on the game. 🙁

I’ve just reached the part where Terra changes into that funny flying morphy thing, and has gone AWOL. I’m beginning to get immersed in the character interaction. I don’t really know how to describe it, but it seems stronger than in other FF games, like the characters seem to click so well in place with one another, and you can understand why some characters like the others, and why some are anxious around some.

I found the Kefka battle in Narshe tricky at first. Then I realised that it’s easy if you get Celes to use Runic. D’oh!

Will continue to edit and report more as I progress. Thanks to the people who are reading and commenting to this thread.

Awesome storyline with dynamic characters and cool, but moving music. The WOB and WOR scenarios make it one of the best games in the series. I prefer 8, but 6 is very well done.

Well in three weeks I’ve… Got absolutely no-where…

Just done the Opera scenario. And am now on the outskirts of Vector. Interesting cartoon element with Ultros and the "4 Tonne" weight. And that battle was a little tricky, or rather just lengthy, and what do I get at the end of it? 2 GP??? Didn’t seem worth the effort…

The characters are pretty deep, although I’m finding it hard to get into the game. (That’s probably more me than the game.) I’ll update again as soon as I progress, um, again.

I think that 6 is one of the best FF games out there the characters click together so much better than other characters. In the WOR i about quit because i was so stricken with emotion.

*sniff*
*sniff*
Why did I not save Cid DAMMMIT!

Macker

Which version are we reviewing? The original US SNES version, the US NTSC FF Anthology version on the PSX, or the ‘new’ PAL version?

Personally, and having played all versions since 1994 when it was originally released, I have to recommend the FF Anthology version. Not only do you get it in full screen mode, but it also comes with FF V and a Soundtrack selection CD. What does the PAL version have? Squashed, badly letterboxed graphics – a result of rushing the conversion, and a good, although too short, demo for FF X. As far as the graphics for the PAL version go, only someone who’s played the NTSC versions would notice anything unusual, and it doesn’t detract from playing what is still the best in the series. The plot is the most original to date, the music’s to die for, there is a huge cast of characters, the world is huge, and it has Kefka; who is without a doubt, the greatest villian in the history of everything. Let’s just say he likes to poison children and we’ll leave it at that.

And if you want to know how far I am in this great game? On my original SNES copy, I got up to Kefka’s Tower, the final dungeon. Killed Atma and went to save when I bumped my SNES. My SNES is a PAL model, so I neeed to use a convertor. Now my convertor is a tempremental beast; the cart wobbles in the breeze and the slightest bump shorts it out and erases any save data you have stored. Which is exactly what happened to me. Instantly over a hundred hours of game time and level building vanished into the ether, accompanied by much cursing and four letter words aimed at the SNES. I didn’t restart that game, as I’ve been concentraiting on my FF Anthology version, on which I’m up to the Magitek Facility in Vector. The PAL version? Still in the Moogle Mines in Narshe, hunting down that frozen Esper. And it’ll probably never advance any futher.

Quote:

Garnet: "How did you survive?"
Zidane: "I didn’t have a choice. I had to live. I wanted to come home to you. So,… I sang your song."
Garnet: "Our song."

I now think that FFVI is better than FFVIII. I still dont like it as much as FF7 or 9 though.

so the Music might be a little warpedat times. but find a site that has music files for the game. or the cd that came with the Anthology release. but I still love this game, and remember it is over 8 years old now. so the re might be a few problems here, and there in it. but It is still my favorite game in ther series besides FF4. Now that was a Story.:cool:

😎 and keep up the Good work. Kefka’s Days are Numbered. Me I’ll be Cyan. why You might ask. I am probably the Oldest poster here, and I sorta resemble the Photo of Cyan as Well.:p

Yo Flamethrower, always remember to avoid double posting in the future, please. If you want to add something to your message, use the funny little Edit-button.

@Enkidoh
Yes, it is a shame how Square Europe is treating their customers. I could go mad about that, but I don�t expect mucfrom them anyway. I guess here in this thread where the story is discussed… it does not matter which version you�ve played. I mean, there was no translation Square Europe did, so they could not translate something away.

Ummm just wanted to know when this thread was gonna continue?

That’s all

Macker:eye:

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Well, after a four week (or thereabouts) hiatus from the game, I finally turned the Playstation back on. I hate it when you get coursework that creeps up on you and bites you in the…. Well, anyways, I won’t be able to play much this next week, but if I do, then I’ll keep you up to date.

Playing today, I went through the Magitek Research Facility and I met Cid (yay! Cid in a Final Fantasy game! Who woulda thunk it?:rolleyes: ) The party for that section of the game was Sabin, Edgar, Celes and Locke. I’m beginning to get a feel for what’s going on in the game, knowing that Kefka needs Espers and Magicite for some scheme… Okay, maybe I’m not getting that much of a feel then.

And to top it off, Terra’s a half Esper, half human interbred being! Who would’ve seen THAT coming? (Well, people who’ve played the game before, I suppose.) I now need to return to Narshe to see what’s happening there, and I suppose I need to try and find Celes in the near future aswell.

At the moment, the character I most like is Sabin. He’s a headstrong character who followed his own dreams rather than be chained down by a decision by his father that would’ve split his kingdom in half. His special attacks are the best in the game (although pulling some of them off is a bit of a pain in the ass), and he’s got the highest hit point level of my characters at the moment.

Minor note to people who’ve been asking:- This is a review of the UK PAL release of the game. I haven’t played any other version, so this is my first time through the game. Apart from the loading speeds, the game handles well. I just need to get myself back into the swing of playing games.

And so I’m off to Narshe… The review will continue. Thanks to everyone who’s replied. Have a nice day.

EDIT:- I think I can safely say I’m addicted now. Played around three hours straight. I went to Narshe, and they informed me that I should take Terra to the Esper World. I was just about to enter the dungeon, when it occurred to me that my levels were a little weak. I spent an hour walking around the bottom continent fighting and levelling up, getting new spells from Espers (an excellent idea, as everyone could in theory get every spell.)

Then, with Sabin and Edgar at level 20, and Terra and Cyan at level 18, I entered the dungeon to the Esper World. I came out an hour and a half later at level 23 or thereabouts, with Sabin dealing 2000 damage with Aurabolt, and with most spells learnt for those four characters. I was also divebombed by the escaping Espers, and now my airship is smoking…

The storyline’s beginning to accelerate a bit, but I’m still not sure why Kefka’s so keen in gaining all the Espers, and what Gestahl’s gonna play in this. I also found a sword called the "Atma Weapon." Battle Power of 255…. That’s quite handy! (I know that there’s a second Atma Weapon that is a monster, and I suppose I’ll be meeting it sooner or later…)

That’s about all for now. Speak soon!

I refer You back to FF 4. Cecil was Half Human And Half Lunarian. so that was not at all a suprise for me. but the Best 2 of the series are with out a Doubt FF4 and FF6.:cool:

I also found a sword called the "Atma Weapon." Battle Power of 255…. That’s quite handy! (I know that there’s a second Atma Weapon that is a monster, and I suppose I’ll be meeting it sooner or later…)

I must be getting pretty good at this predicting game thing. Because, not long after posting the quote above, did I stagger upon the Atma Weapon on the floating continent. That battle was easy enough, getting to it through the enemies wasn’t. That was one tough section of the game!

Made quite a bit of progress yesterday, at the expense of my Java coursework. Oh well. To recap (and this might take some time,) Emperor Gestahl "surrendered" the war effort and asked for my party, in particular Terra, to help him negotiate with the Espers. We went to Crescent Isle, and found the town of the Mage Warriors (or descendants thereof.) Strago and Relm have now joined the party (with Strago being fairly useful, Relm less so, but I haven’t fought a lot with the pair yet, so…)

After finding the gold statues of the Goddesses (and realising the nature of the statues that Kefka was after), and learning that the Goddesses created magic and Espers and are sealed away in the Espers’ homeworld, and that they want to continue being imprisoned for the sake of the world, and to end their conflict.

(I’m getting lost trying to remember this.)

Back to the Mage Warrior town, and the death of General Leo, which was particularly moving considering how it happened, at the hands of Kefka. The party move for the floating continent, and the battle I explain above. Then the confrontation between Gestahl, Celes and Kefka, that results in Kefka getting stabbed (and his reaction would be funny if it wasn’t so disturbing), followed by the death of Gestahl at the hands of the power of the statues.

Kefka then moves the statues out of balance, before Shadow returns and makes the save, trapping Kefka between the statues and allowing the party to make a break for it. Too late, as it turns out, as the whole world goes crazy and everything goes to pot…

… In terms of catastrophes in Final Fantasy games, this one has got to rate near the top, wiping out a good number of the population of the planet, and with a lot of the main characters (Leo, Gestahl, Espers, etc.) Dropping dead.

NOTES ON KEFKA:-

Before going into this game, I thought that Sephiroth was the best gaming villain I’d seen. Playing through this game, I can say that Kefka is right up there. It hasn’t been a gradual slide toward evil, like with Sephiroth, but a major slide into insanity with a lust for only one thing, power. It was the lust for power that made Kefka poison Doma. It was the lust for power that made Kefka go after the party when we went to the Esper world, and it was the lust for power that resulted for him killing Gestahl, Leo and the majority of the population of the world. To say he’s a few cakes short of a picnic is an understatement, and he keeps on coming, no matter what my party members throw his way…

… That’s a lengthy update, but I’ve got quite a ways. I’m currently saved with Celes tending for Cid a year in the future (it don’t look good for the Cid man, I think I know where that one’s going.) Not sure how far I have left to go, but I will progress as soon as I work out how to do bin sorting in Java, and write my coursework for it.

Cheers for reading. Updates when possible.

not to rain on your parade-I love your review so far-but, did you wait for Shadow at the end of the Floating Island? if not, I hope you have a file saved before that. to accomplish "SAVING" Shadow, just wait at the end when it asks if you would like to jump. eventually, the timer will pause as Shadow appears. then, you can go. if you already saved him, then I apologise for stating this. My point in this post was that I want EVERY player of FF6 to get the most out of the game…and without all the charachters available, you won’t. so, onward, enjoy…and keep up[ the good work.

Yeah, and did you also know you could get Mog just after escaping from the Magitek Facility in Vector? When you return to Narshe, after speaking with Banon, head to the bottom-right hand part of town and confront the pickpocket Lone Wolf. Chase him into the mines and to the top of the mountain. You’ll find Lone Wolfholding the little moogle hostage. Keep heading towards him, even though he says not to, and then after a while, just sit there and don’t do anything. Eventually, Mog will escape from his clutches, so then speak with him. He’ll then join your party! If you don’t get him here, you can still get him later in the world of ruin, but, why wait?

The reason I’m saying this is because I’ve done exactly that. Got Mog straight after returning from the meeting in Narshe, so now I’m just building my party and fattening up my wallet so I can go to the Jiddor Auction and buy the Zoneseek and Golem Magicites, as well as the Starlet magicite from that guy in Tzen behind the tree. I want to get them before I head to the Sealed Gate – that place is deadly!

Some classic FFVI quotes:

"I’d rather jab myself in the eye with a stick than have to deal with that guy again!" Sabin, refering to Gau’s crazy old father, FFVI.

"And you! Take a hike!" Kefka, after draining Ifrit of his magic power, FFVI.

"Ugh,..I’m,..gonna be…sick! UURRGH,.. gonna..toss…it all!" Returner decoy at the Magitek Facility in Vector, FFVI.

"Kupo! That crazy old fart Ramuh came to me in a dream and told me that you were coming! Kupopo!!" Mog, FFVI.

I finally completed FF6, with a time of about 40 hours. The Final Boss music is great, and the final boss himself is the hardest final boss out of all the FF’s ive played. The ending is brilliant, but I wont spoil it for those who havnt yet finished the game.

Cheers to OLEMASTER and Endikoh for your tips and tricks and stuff. Gives me a reason to play through the game again…

Okay, not much of an update, as I’ve had Java coursework due in, and a presentation to do… (Well, I thought I had a presentation to do, until the bloody lecturer postponed it due to "technical difficulties.")

I am guessing that I have entered the infamous World of Ruin I’ve heard about in this thread from some posters. My prediction about Cid "not making it" was spot on. Poor Celes. (Trying to kill yourself is not a solution!) I then made it back to the mainland, and am impressed by the range of Kefka’s destruction. Beautiful! This guy gets better and better! Also, the release of many mythical monsters. I’m not looking forward to fighting them.

Found Sabin, and entered the collapsing house to get the kid out (a recurring theme, I see. Save kid from fire, save kid from falling building, I’ll probably have to save a kid from drowning, no wait, that’s Final Fantasy VII…) I then proceeded to Mobliz (spelling?) Where I found Terra. And that’s where I left it. Well, actually, I left it with my party getting annihilated by that green demon thing Phunanba (or whatever it’s called.)

Finally, congrats, Bahamut, for completing the game! I’ll get there myself, eventually…

Zero, heres another little something I forgot to mention….you CAN SAVE CID! that’s right! SAVE Cid. to do this, which really adds little to the game one way or the other, is by feeding him ONLY the swiftly moving fish. and, if you were wondering….no, I think i’ll wait till you get there to add that. oh, BTW, if you want to collect ALL the Espers, as soon as you get the chance to return to the small Island where the World of Ruin sequence began, do so. you can pick up a VERY nice little Magicite. where do you find this Shard? on the beach, of courseenjoy, and good luck with the course work.

Well… Another update after playing until 2am this morning. (I missed the last couple of frames of the Snooker World Final because of this game… Oh well.)

Instead of trying to get hold of Terra and face big demon thingy, I chose the "go north" instead of the "go east" option. Where upon I stumbled upon "Gerad." "Gerad" led me, via ship, across to South Figaro. I had the feeling that it wasn’t an amnesia thing, because I think "Gerad" would’ve recognised his twin brother Sabin, if not anyone else.

"Gerad" then went to Figaro castle, where upon "Gerad" revealed that he was Edgar (and thus ended my use of inverted commas, which is always a good thing.) We fought tentacle things, defeated tentacle things and then headed to some town (Kohnligen, if my memory is correct) where we found Setzer.

It only took a minute of persuading him that the situation WASN’T helpless and to rejoin us. Where upon he asked us to go to Darryl’s tomb. My first thought was "Aah! His brother / father / uncle / nephew." Where upon Setzer shattered my belief with "she was one of the best pilots around." Or something to that extent.

She? SHE??????? I know it’s fantasy, but isn’t Darryl a bloke’s name? Sorry to get fired up about it, but I spent most of the time laughing during the flashback at the name rather than listening to the story behind her and the Falcon airship that Setzer painstakingly, and helpfully, recreated.

Isn’t it weird that, the airship that was miles above the ground got completely destroyed by the cataclysm (for lack of a better word) and the airship on the ground wasn’t even scratched?

I then went on the quest for Cyan, who has since joined my party after much travel through Mount Zozo, and my final solving of the clock puzzle to get the Chainsaw tool. (Edgar looks CRAZY doing that, the mask and all!) I have attempted to battle the Storm Dragon a couple of times, before deciding it might be best to leave it alone for now. (I know when I’m pushing things.)

The game is now directing me towards Gau on the Veldt. Final Fantasy VI is different in that it gives you a lot of freedom to move around, but ultimately aids you to taking the easiest path (the bird guiding Celes to Cyan, for instance.) I could go and try and battle the demon thing to get Terra, if it weren’t for the fact that I was convinced that I would get ripped to shreds at my current level. It’s a unique quality that isn’t apparent in the Playstation version of the games.

That’s me done for now. I’m off to revise…

Laters.

Bahamut Zero, good to see you’ve come a long way in the game. A few things though: I have heard of Daryl as a girl’s name, however, it is more of course more popular for a guy. And in regards to the Falcon. Daryl crashed it when she tried to fly it to the moon (shades of FFIV here), which was of course unsuccessful when she crashed. Shattered, Setzer salvaged the Falcon’s remains, and using his own airship the Blackjack, he rebuilt the Falcon to full working order, only to seal it away with Daryl’s body in her tomb. That part of the game only served to confirm the fact, that all the characters in FFVI have lost someone or something dear to them, which they use as their reason to keep up the fight against the Empire, and much later, Kefka (I won’t say what the other characters have lost- you’ll just have to find out for yourselves).

Quote:

Garnet: "How did you survive?"
Zidane: "I didn’t have a choice. I had to live.
I wanted to come home to you.
So,… I sang your song."
Garnet: "Our song."

Originally posted by Bahamut
So far it’s been OK but I prefer FF7-9. The graphics are OK for the time the game was made, the gameplay is good and the story is OK. Unfortunately, the soundtrack isnt anything to right home about.

I only looked up this thread recently and the time dilation might be big, but why was the above post written? Is Bahamut and Bahmut Zero the same person?

I’m guessing no because this post and the rest of Zero’s are conflicting. Anyways Bahamut.. you need to seriously revise your gaming critique. Either you are one of the "new generation" Square fans, or you simply don’t know a good thing when you see one. The graphics were some of the best of its time, this was 9 years ago. The soundtrack was also the best of its time, its not everyday a snes has an organ theme (WoR), which is one of my favourite tracks in that game..

[edit] By the way Zero, about your recent progress.. This is a secret not well known and it isnt the original ’93 Strategy books. Did you get the key to open the chest in Cyan’s cave?

Originally posted by OLEMASTER
Zero, heres another little something I forgot to mention….you CAN SAVE CID! that’s right! SAVE Cid. to do this, which really adds little to the game one way or the other, is by feeding him ONLY the swiftly moving fish. and, if you were wondering….no, I think i’ll wait till you get there to add that. oh, BTW, if you want to collect ALL the Espers, as soon as you get the chance to return to the small Island where the World of Ruin sequence began, do so. you can pick up a VERY nice little Magicite. where do you find this Shard? on the beach, of courseenjoy, and good luck with the course work.

If for some reason people don’t know, giving other’s secrets isn’t a good way to let them have the joy of revealing the game’s treasures. I found that shard by my self FYI, back 8 years ago when I was a wee boy playing my sweet sweet FF6.

Don’t worry. I’ve got a Million Secrets, and Only a few WILL I ever share. I Found the shard, laying on the beach amidst the surf, when I too was younger…but….YES, I agree. however, I debated LONG AND HARD as to whether I should mention anything. Seems to me Zero doesn’t mind too much, and I HAVE kept it to a MINIMUM. I could RUIN it for everyone, SPILL all the beans, BUT I wouldn’t, indeed COULDN’T. My nature as a Writer WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO DO SUCH A THING. it also comes form being an author that I ahve such a LOVE for this series, and this GAME in particular. Truth be told, I don’t feel that I have "Spoiled" much, if ANYTHING so far.

you have Barely told any tips on this great game.:)

Nice to see some discussion going on. And I agree, nothing has been said in this thread that has spoilt my experience of the game. In fact, in places it has proved valuable. To Zemlock, I haven’t found the key to open the chest in the place that Cyan was (Mount Zozo, if memory serves.) I was going to try and find a crowbar… 😉 (Oh, and Bahamut and myself are separate people, to clear up any confusion.) To OLEMASTER, a fellow writer here appreciates your appreciation of the game (if any of that makes sense.) Thank you for your contribution, and to everyone else.

Updates.

This is where I begin to forget stuff. Memory serves that I’d just got Cyan into my party, and was at a slight loss to my next move. I decided to go to the Veldt. I found the Cave in the Veldt, and Interceptor the Dog. After a little bit of wandering around, and a hard fought boss battle, I found Relm lying half dead in the cave. (At first, I thought she was Strago. Don’t know why I thought that…)

I then went out onto the Veldt itself with only three in the party. Gau showed himself after one battle, and promptly reminded me who he was and rejoined the party. I then took Gau to see the crazy old man (the one that Sabin said that he’d rather stab himself in the eye than talk another minute to this crazy guy.) After speculation, the guys took Gau for a "makeover" and then presented him as his son. The man tells us of his belief that Gau was a demon child, and after threatening to rip the old man apart, Gau steps in and says that he’s happy that his father’s alive. This leads back to a point bought up by Enkidoh that each of the characters has lost someone or something close to them. I felt for the poor kid as we left.

I then went to Mobliz, where I found Terra (again.) This time, I had (a) enough characters and (b) enough of a level to kick Phunbaba’s behind out of the town, getting Fenrir as an Esper as a result (I’ve heard of that name somewhere before…) Terra was injured, and doesn’t seem to want to rejoin the party.

Dejected, I went searching again. I decided to pay a visit to Narshe, where I found Mog in the mines. He informed me of his yeti friend, and so far I haven’t found him. I’ll try taking Mog as one of my party members and going to have a look.

I then paid a visit to the tower of the cult of Kefka, where I found Strago as one of the mindless minions. The moment someone said that it was a magic only tower, I decided to try something else again.

Headed back to Thamasa (place where Strago and Relm originally came from) to find Relm missing. One of the villagers mentioned that an aristocrat took her back to Jidoor.

Man, this game is HUGE. I’ve got about three or four things going on at the moment, and could take any direction in the quest. That’s what I’m loving about this game at the moment. The non-linearity element. Final Fantasy VIII and IX, bar the sub-games, had a very linear plot. Do this, do this, do this, finish the game. VII was slightly less slow, as you had the mini plots of Yuffie and Vincent. VI has blown that out of the water. I still haven’t found Locke yet (don’t tell me, I’m working on it.) I’ve got to find Terra (who’s now chasing a pregnant Katrin.) I’ve got to find Relm (who’s in Jidoor, my guess is in the big house with the paintings), I’ve got a Yeti in Narshe to find, I’ve got Doom Gaze ready to pounce on me at a moment’s notice (as has happened once before), and eight dragons to kill. (I’ve found two, but gave up after they destroyed me at this current level (about 32 all round.))

Phew, that was a long paragraph…

Put basically, I’m loving the experience, and I’ve caught myself humming some of the tunes aswell. The music, considering what it was designed for, is blowing my mind away.

Anyways, that’s enough writing for now… ‘Tis getting late. Updates as soon as I have the time. Laters.

glad to see you liked it…for me, this was my favorite final fantasy game…

you might of missed some things

*possible spoilers you might have passed*

Shadow’s DEAD!!!

Did you get the moogle charm on the back wall where Mog was standing?…it’s a very useful item!!

if you wanna read it clearly, just highlight it with your mouse…

Thank you both for the support, truly. now, here are the ONLY tips I can give you. Vanish a monster, then cast DOOM. and, this is for UNDEAD monsters……a PHEONIX down, or a LIFE Spell is a one-hit kill, should it be a succes,which it is, 99.999% of the time. yes, DOOMGAZE. I lost a few hours beacuse of him….the RAT.As for the Key to the chest, I believe it is on the cliff outside Cyans"HOVEL". as for THE YETi, do your Remember the battle on the ICE fields? oh, and as for this KICKER, go back, and SEARCH VERY CAREFULLY right behind where MOG was. that’s all I feel I can say, without spoiling much. Oh yeah, that and, once you get ODIN, DO not touch the Statue with the tear on it in the ANCIENT Palace, not unitl everyone you want to have METOER has it. that’s all I can say. jsut a warning. Contiue the Quest….

Final Fantasy 6——It’s not a game, it’s a way of LIFE.

Right, quick update, it’s getting late here in the good old UK, and I’m meant to have lectures tomorrow.

Have got Umaro the Yeti into my party. He seems…. Yeti like. Haven’t tried him out in battle yet, so I don’t know what to make of him yet. Characters are currently levelled at around 37, 35, 35 and 34 when I went to Jidoor to try and find Relm. (And I did find her, and the painting attacked me. Try as I could, no matter what I hurled at it, it seemed to heal up.)

Oh, and I’ve decided that I hate dragons. So far, I’ve beaten the Ice Dragon, and that’s it. The Dirt Dragon keeps on tearing me apart, and I refuse to open the chest that contains the Storm Dragon after it decided to educate me a couple of times.

Just a small point to anyone… The battle you have with Phunbaba… Do you fight it again, because it ran off after I’d fought it? Is it dead? Or is it just hiding?

In regards to that fruit-cake Phunbaba, yes, you can fight it again to get Terra to re-join you. And by killing all eight of the Ancient Dragons and that pain-in-the-butt Doomgaze will net you some very nice prizes (I wont spoil it for you). And in regards to the statue in the Ancient Castle, you can get an Esper at a later date which teaches your party Meteor, amongst other things, but, like Garnet in FFIX, you’ll have to find the answers for yourselves, as I’ve said too much already!(I hope I haven’t spoilt too much).

Today’s classic FF Quote:

"Man, I hate kids." Amarant, saying the understatement of the year, after having Eiko constantly taunting him, FFIX.

Another update (it’s been a while, but I was playing earlier, so I figured I should mention how far I’ve got now.)

I have got everyone back in the party, bar Shadow (who, as I now know, is dead because I forgot to save him… Oh well…) I was particularly moved by Locke finding the Phoenix Esper and using it on his "dead" girlfriend, only for her to decide that it was time for him and her to move on.

I also went back to Doma Castle with Cyan in my party. Getting hold of his last two sword techniques and his most powerful weapon so far (and in the game, I guess.) I’ve been working on two characters’ levels in particular by fighting Tyranos in the north east corner of the map, and have got Edgar and Sabin up to level 51.

Phew. I’m almost at the end of the game then… Just need to go to Kefka’s tower and do him severe amounts of damage (training up a couple of other characters beforehand would probably be a good idea…)

Will let you know about the ending as soon as I get there (and if I can stop playing Grandia 2 long enough to get there…)

You have EVERY person, even GOGO, the MIMIC? did you Beat the Mage-master at the top of the Fanatics tower, conquer all the dragons, and Beat HIDON north of Thammasa? Did you go, with SABIN, to the house north of Narshe, you know, the one where in the world of BALANCE, you found evidence of Sabin?, and BTW, there is a certain point in Kefkas tower where once you pass it you can no longer come back out. just thought I’d warn you. once Again, I hope this helps, if not with this Run-through, then what I am certain will be your next one. if I spoiled anything, apologies.

Originally posted by OLEMASTER
Thank you both for the support, truly. now, here are the ONLY tips I can give you. Vanish a monster, then cast DOOM. and, this is for UNDEAD monsters……a PHEONIX down, or a LIFE Spell is a one-hit kill, should it be a succes,which it is, 99.999% of the time. yes, DOOMGAZE. I lost a few hours beacuse of him….the RAT.As for the Key to the chest, I believe it is on the cliff outside Cyans"HOVEL". as for THE YETi, do your Remember the battle on the ICE fields? oh, and as for this KICKER, go back, and SEARCH VERY CAREFULLY right behind where MOG was. that’s all I feel I can say, without spoiling much. Oh yeah, that and, once you get ODIN, DO not touch the Statue with the tear on it in the ANCIENT Palace, not unitl everyone you want to have METOER has it. that’s all I can say. jsut a warning. Contiue the Quest….

Final Fantasy 6——It’s not a game, it’s a way of LIFE.

ARE YOU SERIOUS?! Either I have a 6th sense for this sort of thing but I got every secret in the game without prior knowledge..

Bahamut I just read that long paragraph of yours..

Yeah, the game is indeed amazingly huge. The entire after-world is just a net of finding your friends and finishing their business (ie. Relm’s paintings, and Strago’s love for her, which you will know when you can find them both). And the music is also something I sing in my head, my very favourite song in the game is the destroyed Narshe theme..

Go to Narshe bro, its a very wierd feeling. No one’s there, just your group and the wildlife. Snow is falling and the bells from the song in the background. You’ll find all the doors locked, I’m sure you can find the remedy to that. The music makes a huge difference. Going there with the group (Locke, Terra, Edgar) makes you think about how it started and stuff like that.

By the way, don’t beat the game just yet. Find the all the secrets, and for yourself, its much more rewarding. Kill the dragons, and get all characters and espers. Also, I’m not sure if you or anyone else other than me does this, but talk to everyone in the world. I talk to everyone in the towns.

Zemlock, the repeated badgering by you of my tips is unappreciated and highly Rude. you obviously have a lot to learn about tact, which is in fact not learned but gained. As for you assertsion that I am "spoiling" it, and further, that I and others needed PRIOR knowledge, that is simply not true. I have played this title since it came out on the SNES in October of 94…yes, 94, not ’93. Some EARLY overseas test copies made thir way out, quite by"ACCIDENT" thereby giving many the thought that the game was a ’93 rlease. in fact, it was launched in EARLY 94 in Japan. I was in fact the First person in my COUNTY to purchase this title. I have played it at LEAST 20 times, and if you know as much as you purport, then you KNOW there are MANY things I have left out. There are many things about this game that you NEED to have a HINT about or else you could bypass them altogether. Myself, I take a bit of pride in that I NEVER had to get hints. As for whether or not I feel a bit of guilt, divuldging my Knowledge, yes I do, to a certain Degree. then again, I always thought that this was an open Forum, intended to share ones likes, dislikes and INFO on these Games. Thank you for your time.

I find nothing rude about what I said, and I apologize if you feel that I somehow offended you about stating that I didn’t need any outside sources to find secrets..

Also there was nothing repeated about my badgering I just suggested that someone do the dew by themselves and that was said ONCE.

Let Me Also Add That The Colosseum Is a Neat Place to Play Once you Get The List…. Some of the Relics In There… Phew! The Economizer… *Drools*

BTW: If Any Boss Gives you trouble Equip Setzer (Presuming He Built Up In Your Party) With Fixed Dice as A Weapon… There Is An Easy Chance that Your Attacks Will Go Over 5000 Plus I Can Easily Get 9999. For veterans Can I Just Say Offering + Genji Glove + Dice +Fixed Dice… Man That Is Awesome…

I Have Absolutely Every Esper Every Spell Every Char at Least At Level 50 (My Party Is At Level 70 Somethin) Every (Decent) Relic And All ‘Ultimate Weapons’ I Might Add The fact that The End FMV in The Pal Version Is Good But youve Seen it All Before… Well Sorta… Im Not gonna Spoil It…

Best FF Next To 7 (Id Say their own Par In Their Own little Way…)
Just FF Newbies (7 to 9 Players) May Find It Hard to Appreciate

I agree that thats a good set up but its definetly not the best.. not by far bro.

If you can get a hero ring, and lvl up with Bismark or Bahamut (I’m sure they’re the ones that give you +Stamina) for about 15 lvls. Equip your best sword and wear the hero ring and offering, at lvls 50-80 its possible to get 7000+ per hit. 9999 would be no surprise.

Thats the best attack possible by the way, you can’t beat that setup.

Originally posted by Setzer
I Have Absolutely Every Esper Every Spell Every Char at Least At Level 50 (My Party Is At Level 70 Somethin) Every (Decent) Relic And All ‘Ultimate Weapons’ I Might Add The fact that The End FMV in The Pal Version Is Good But youve Seen it All Before… Well Sorta… Im Not gonna Spoil It…

Best FF Next To 7 (Id Say their own Par In Their Own little Way…)
Just FF Newbies (7 to 9 Players) May Find It Hard to Appreciate

Forgot to mention, the economizer is dropped by Brontosaur in the Ancient Forest.

But, I’m going to disagree with the fact that you can get everything at lvl 50, its just not possible. Espers and characters yes, but not magic. Especially since you have to do the Raiden/Odin thing. Simply not possible.

BTW FF7 is not better than 6, in my opinion. Maybe its a little more glamourous because of all the hype it received and because of Square’s successful ad campaign..

You know, I really must keep an eye on the official E-mail address I have for the Shrine… It’s taken me a week to realise the site moved. Still, it was a productive week anyways. Where was I?

Aah yes… I COMPLETED THE GAME!!! 😀 😀 😀

Ahem. Sorry, I have control of myself again. I spent a little time training up four people to undefeatable proportions (close to level 70 after I’d finished trying to get through the last level.) I then met the infamous enemy known as Kefka… (Interesting topic to discuss: What is it with Square and Winged Final Bosses?) Yeah, the guy’s pretty much insane.

Anyways, I fought the last bosses and… Didn’t find it that difficult. I’d done quite a bit of exploring whilst I was levelling up, and I ended up gaining some useful relics like the Offering and Genji Glove, and thus Sabin hit four times and Edgar attacked twice with the Illumina and Aura Lance… The result was about 30000 damage between those two alone. Terra did healing and Cyan tried to stay alive, and I was able to defeat the final, winged version of Kefka and beat the game.

The ending was slightly disappointing. I’m not talking in terms of FMV or anything, but as a conclusion to the game. The Espers and magic itself dies, fair enough, I get that. Then everyone escapes using their own skills here and there. Then they all get on the airship and it… Flies around… For five minutes. There isn’t an aftermath or anything.

In fact, in saying that, there isn’t any sort of thing like that in Final Fantasy VII, or in some of the others whilst I’m thinking about it.

Still, this is definitely one of the top two Final Fantasy games I’ve played (um, out of four, that is.) It’s up there with VII, and if I had played it before VII, it would probably be more of a favourite.

Still, that’s me done for now. Cheers for reading, and all that.

*Spoilers*

The Cg Part of the Ending Is boring And Slow And lots of Airship Business But its All Worth It Just To See Terra Let Fly With Her hair… That Is Almost Like… The point of the Ending… I Think… You know Kinda Like "Terra Hey Its All over Youre Not Gonna Die Let your Hair out Doll" Btw: Zemlock I Have learned All Spells With Edgar Not With All Characters That Would Take A Lot of time i Dont wanna Waste.