Best non-FF game of all time?

suppose it’s gotta be GTA: Vice City for me

Originally posted by The Immortal
suppose it’s gotta be GTA: Vice City for me

Why? All the game involves is going around and blowing the crap out of stuff? It gets dull and repetitive after an hour or two. I respect your opinion for saying that it’s your fave game, but why do you think that?

For me, it’s Morrowind. The game was an absolute masterpiece from beginning to end. The world was huge. Absolutely huge. There was SO much to do. You’re weren’t restricted to doing the main story, you could do as much or as little of it as you wished. You have two expansion packs opening new horizons, new weapons, new enemies, you have so many weapons and stuff to choose from, and you have thousands of characters to interact with who can offer you a new branch of the world to explore.

I loved the game from the moment I picked it up to the moment I put it down. I spent hours sat in my room "organising my inventory." It’s a definite game to play if you enjoy first person RPGs. Give it a whirl, even if you just borrow it. It’s good.

Over to the rest of you. 🙂

Morrowind came really close for but i found it repetitive in some bits, and Vice City is the only game that has kept me hooked for as long as FF, i got over a year ago and i’m still playing it. it’s great for short spells and what keeps u hooked isn’t really the killing and tsuff but all the crazy stuff u can do with cars and bikes, there’s so much stuff u can jump over and off and just random stuff that comes into ur head. it may be about killing but it”s a very free and open ended game, it gives the player total freedom and let’s them do their own thing for hours

I find it funny BZ that you question his choice of GTA: VC but then say that Morrowind is great because

The world was huge. Absolutely huge. There was SO much to do. You’re weren’t restricted to doing the main story, you could do as much or as little of it as you wished.

Which is pretty much exactly why GTA is great also.

I have so many favorite games… none of them being FF by the way… that I cannot just post one… so i will post many

Metal Gear Solid
Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Soul Calibur
Mario 64
Goldeneye

That’ll do for now.

three letters: ddr.

Great music, great graphics, good appeal (interactivity), and great replay value (also known as wanting to get better)

Available for pc at akddr.com when the site decides to work.

It would be too hard for me just to name 1, so I’m going to list about 8 that deserve this position.

Metal Gear Solid
Grim Fandango
Fallout
Fallout 2
Monkey Island
Monkey Island 2
Broken Sword
Broken Sword 2

the monkey island games rule!

i must name some more also
MGS
Super Street Fighter II Turbo
Bomberman
Tony Hawk’s Underground
Super Mario World

Originally posted by Loki
I find it funny BZ that you question his choice of GTA: VC

I wasn’t questioning his choice, more I was wondering what his reason for his choice was… Now he’s stated his reasons, I appreciate why he likes the game so much.

That’s what I like reading. The reasons why people think games are so good. That way, it might persuade me to go back and try them again if I think they’re not that great. 😉

yeah

DDR & GTA

Anything Legacy of Kain is just awesome.

Metal Gear Solid.

Ace Combat 4

Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec.

Sacrifice (for those who don’t know, you’re missing a lot).

The first Super Smas Bros. was good ol’ mindless fun.

Aliens vs. Predator 2 for PC was cool as hell, too.

Legend of Legaia.

Star Ocean 2

Legend of Dragoon was a refreshing change from standard RPG battle engines, timing the button presses to execute combos and all.

Robotech: Battlecry.

Oh, and Zone of the Enders: The Second Runner.

Games definitely worth checking into, I know I got my money’s worth out of them in playing time.

I would normally have said Metal Gear Solid…

But Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic has stolen my heart.

Halo deserves an honourable mention, too.

I liked Morrowind too, though i never got too far in it. I think it would have made a fairly good Online game if they had done so because of the large world and the main story line that you don’t have to follow. Again, i never really got far at all with this game but i liked what i did get done before my short attention span for game playing sadly kicked in.

how could i foget to mention Halo! to self: fricken idiot!

Starcraft. Never gets old as long as people are still making maps.

Heroes of Might and Magic 3. That is by far the best game I’ve ever played, just doing all the campaigns will take well over 60 hours. But it’s when playing multiplayer that this game really shines, my friends and I have been playing this game for more than 4 years now and we never tire of it. It’s truly a shame Heroes 4 was so bad.

Honorable mentions go to Metal Gear Solid and Castlevania:SOTN, I think I’ve played through that Castlevania more than any other game, and there is one quote in MGS that sums up why I like that game so much "You like Castlevania, don’t you?"

I’ve played Sacrifice and it was really fun for the first 5 missions but after that the dificulty was just too much for me.

plz say somwone has played light crusaider on the mega drive that was pretty close to and rpg for its time with quite a few puzzels honestly it was great. so has ne one plaid it?

The Medal of Honor Series
GTA
it’s to hard to say. I think it’s easyer to say what games arer’t good.

For those who know my obsession well, the greatest game of ALL TIME is Breath of Fire IV. The fact that you can see things through the villain’s perspective. Great battle system, great story, music, everything.

Then Capcom ruined the series with Dragon Quater.

Best game eh? I’ve got waaaayyyy too many to choose from. I’ll list my fav three games, for each console I have.

NES
Wizards & Warriors series
Star Wars
Hunt for Red October

Master System
Alex Kid series
Asterix
Sonic series

SNES
Breath of Fire II
Final Fantasy IV
Legend of Zelda – A link to the past

Megadrive/Genesis
Alisia Dragoon
Strike series – Desert, Jungle, Urban
Streets of Rage series

Sega Saturn
Mystaria – Realms of Lore
Lost Vikings 2 – Norse by Norsewest
Sakura Wars 2

Nintendo 64
Goldeneye 007
Super Mario Kart 64
Rogue Squadron (Only for the fact you can fly the Millenium Falcon)

Sony Playstation
Suikoden series
Vandal Hearts series
Persona

Sega Dreamcast
Skies of Arcadia
Grandia II
Shenmue series

Sony Playstation 2
Dynasty Warriors series
Legend of Legaia – Duel Saga
Shadow Hearts

Microsoft X-Box
Dead or Alive – Extreme Beach Volleyball
Halo
X-Men 2 – Wolverine’s Revenge

You forgot BattleToads for NES, Death’s Head. That was awesome at the time.

Originally posted by Odin
You forgot BattleToads for NES, Death’s Head. That was awesome at the time.

It was Double-Dragon with frogs.

Best game that isnt an FF would be:

The Thing
Silent Hill Series
Resident Evil Series

Dynasty Warriors Series
Kessen Series

Max Payne Series
GTA Series

Lord of the rings, ROTK- The others were turd, except war of the ring maybe

Vietcong
Empire Earth
Half Life Series

Medal of Honor Series
Grand Turismo Series

Thats all..I think…

Dude, nobody’s mentioned earthbound? you all suck, and stuff.

Originally posted by Ndi
Dude, nobody’s mentioned earthbound? you all suck, and stuff.

God I hate Ness.

Originally posted by Loki

It was Double-Dragon with frogs.

Which was what made it funny.

if you had a few friends, Streets of Rage kicked ass! goin’ around beatin’ the crap out of street punks with pipes and bottles and stuff like that, ho ho it twas fun, if only it was still 96′, if only i still had a megadrive

By far, I have to say the Madden series. It just keeps getting better and better every year. And if sports aren’t included, then the original Resident Evil(Playstation version), because that game introduced everybody to what we gamers now know as real survival/horror.

Originally posted by Cloud’s Clone
By far, I have to say the Madden series. It just keeps getting better and better every year. And if sports aren’t included, then the original Resident Evil(Playstation version), because that game introduced everybody to what we gamers now know as real survival/horror.

No… Alone in the Dark did that… about 4 years before Resident Evil. Also, the first resident evil was a terrible game.

Loki. Its all about opinions!! I respect the fact that you think the first Resident Evil sucked. Cuz, thats your opinion.

Metal Gear Solid (the predecessor is better because of 0% Raiden)
Super Smash Bros. (I dominate with Fox and I’ve had about 4000 wins in versus mode)
I haven’t played much of Halo but I love it. I can’t see how anyone can hate it.
Advance Wars 2 (I prefer it over Final Fantasy Tactics Advance because the battle pace is faster and it’s ULTIMATELY harder for mainstreamers to beat. I’m an exception because I have nearly mastered it.)

METAL GEAR SOLID. ‘Nuff said really. GTA: Vice City certainly doesn’t deserve to be considered one of the best games of all time, as it uses practically the same game engine as GTA3. So, GTA3 is the unique one. That has gotta be one of my favs. I also love TES3: Morrowind, and I have a thing for Counter-Strike these days.

Originally posted by Buddy
GTA: Vice City certainly doesn’t deserve to be considered one of the best games of all time, as it uses practically the same game engine as GTA3. So, GTA3 is the unique one.

Although GTA3 was the unique one… Vice City was a noticable upgrade introducing better music, adjusted gameplay, and above all motorcycles. This made Vice City an overall better game than GTA3, and thus, if GTA3 must be concidered, Vice City should be also.

Both of the GTA games (for ps2) were good. I personally like dark alleys than flashing pink neon signs so 3 has my vote there. But the other great ones were all of the Gran Turismos, Parasite Eve, All the Tony Hawk games, Devil May Cry, Enter the Matrix, all the Metal Gear Solid games and I think Need for Speed Underground was a good sports game.

Originally posted by Cloud’s Clone
Loki. Its all about opinions!! I respect the fact that you think the first Resident Evil sucked. Cuz, thats your opinion.

Okay… if you were talking about Resident Evil for GCN, I would understand and go against Loki’s opinion…..

But if you’re talking about the PSX version…

Something is missing in your head.

Anyways, I think that the Phantasy Star series was a good bunch of games for it’s time. I give it high points!

Can’t we all just get along?

Castlevania Symphony of the Night…
Personally no Final fantasy is the greatest of all time, they are good, but there are far superior games, atleast in my opinion.

In no particular order

Chrono Trigger
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
Metal Gear series
Zelda series
WoW
Mario series
Secret Of Evermore
Rainbow Six Vegas
Socom 2

I have more cant think of them all right now.

Here’s my favorite games of all time:

5. Alien Soldier, a PAL boss-fest made by the guys behind Gunstar Heroes.
4. ICO, the best game I have never played.
3. Sonic the Hedgehog 2, the best Sonic game next to Sonic CD.
2. Einhander, Square’s only SHMUP. Come on, guys.
1. Super Turrican!

Metal Gear
Xenogears
Tomba.. this game was the shit, my old copy was broken though
Grand Theft Auto
God of war
Time Splitters future perfect (Funniest game I’ve played in a long time)
Armored Core
Ace Combat 04 and Einhander
*Edit*
Ico was also very good, damn..

MoH Frontline. Freedom Fighters. Oblivion.

Aw geez, i can’t pick one. That simple.

Zelda: OoT
Kingdom Hearts
Metroid Prime
GTA3
MegaMan X
Sonic Adventure 2
Chrono Trigger

There’s more, i just can’t think of them.

I’ve always held Dracula the Resurrection and its sequal, the Last Sanctuary, as my two favorites games in the world.

Ocarina of Time

Any Wii Friik will tell you that.

But, I didn’t play Twilight Princess.

UPS doesn’t ship weekends.

Metal Gear Solid simply because it’s storyline is so in depth, complex, and intricate. I had a hard time figuring exactly who the patriots were, and then finding out Ocelot is the son of The Boss was really surprising. MGS4 is Outer Heaven 2 supposedly but I wonder who sends Snake in again, the Patriots? Seems like Snake is still being used as a pawn.

There are a whole lot of potential picks… but my all-time favorite game would be Shining Force III. And I mean all of it, not the truncated Scenario 1 that Sega deigned to translate.

Pong

Wow talk about some dusty shit, I ay Legend of the Dragoon, and Chaos Legion.

Wow talk about some dusty shit, I ay Legend of the Dragoon, and Chaos Legion.

Chaos Legion was fun on that difficulty where everything dies in one hit. It’s harder than DMC3’s version in that you don’t have guns, and the only projectile attacks you have suck complete balls.

It was a very fun hack-n-slash game, a genre which I don’t really like.

You make it seem as though FF is the best series of all time. When actually it’s the Tak series.

You make it seem as though FF is the best series of all time.

Yeah, he’s right but this IS a final fantasy forum so you should expect the thousands of registered members here to be FF freaks. As for me, I’m a "Tales of.." freak…yeah, good old fashioned 2D "tales of" gaming has done what FF couldn’t do to me and that’s turn me into one of their loyal fans. FF is too overrated, plus, it’s turn based system kinda sucks. People should realize that there is a much "bigger" world out there than FF…like Vice City or San Andreas…he he he:-P

Oh yeah, other games that rocked…

Megaman X series
Megaman Zero series
Chaos Legion
Skies of Arcadia
Sonic Series
Wario Ware (try it and you’ll never let go of ur GBA!)
and…
Text Twist (now how did that get in there?!)

OMG tak was fun…. for the first 30 secs.

My vote is on the Tales of… series, then the Grandia series.

Pokemon Red or Windwaker.

The original Pokemon game will always be the best, and Windwaker is the only Zelda game I have completed. Better then the other Zelda games.

Take that back about Zelda Twilight princess was awesome and I have played all but the orignal Zelda and Zelda II to finish.

As for the Best non FF series I like the Resident Evil series espically 4 nothing wrong with poping zombie heads for fun and profit.
But best RPG goes to Legend of Dragoon it was extremly well done and had a nice uique combat system though I can never master the Dragoon physical attacks always seem to be just too fast by a hair to get a perfect.

Take that back about Zelda Twilight princess was awesome and I have played all but the orignal Zelda and Zelda II to finish.

Make me. I didn’t say it was crap, boring anything like that, I just preferred WindWaker more.

Guitar Hero 1 + 2 is like awesome. The songs are amazing. Hell yes.

Impossible to just say one.

console games, in no particular order:

Resident Evil series
Morrowind
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of time, and Twilight Princess (to a lesser extent Majora’s Mask (not sure if thats spelled right)).
Knights of the Old Republic I more than II (but II is still there)
Secret of Mana
Street fighter series
Soul Calibur II (can’t play the others as I do not have a dreamcast or PS3< damn I hate sony)
Battletoads (endless fun killing your team mate)
Cannon Fodder
Legacy of Kain and Soul Reaver Series’s
And shitloads more.

As for arcade games (I have to put them separately, to be fair,lol)

Pong and Breakout in poll position.

and the rest, in no order:

Asteroids, man i suck at that game, but I can’t play it without laughing may ass off!
Pac-Man
Jet Pack (I think thats what its called)

And we’ll leave it at that.

Chrono Trigger

Why the hell hasn’t anyone said Star Ocean 3 yet? Thats my favorite btw.

1. Freelancer
2. Ace Combat series
3. Counter Strike Source
4. Secret of Mana
5. Zelda Ocarina of Time 😛

Best non-FF game. LOLOLOL. This topic is a laugh riot!

Alright, please to be checking the dates on posts before posting yourself.