FF7 and FF10: Similarities

I’m not sure if anyone else felt this, but when I played FF7, it automatically reminded me of FF7. Here are some reasons why:

OBVIOUS FF7 AND FF10/FF10-2 SPOILERS BELOW!

First off the bat, was the fact that both were premiering FFs for a different system. FF7 was the first FF on PS1 while FF10 was the first one to appear on PS2. They both made advancements in the series.

Second was the worlds. Not greatly technolocigal, but at the same time, not completely without it and the ignorance of the world of some of the technology. The mako reactors are not viewed as negative by most of the public, but in reality, they are destorying the world. However, many forms of machina are banned in Spira for fear that they caused Sin, but in reality, Yu Yevon fears the machina might over power him.

Third was the lead magic woman and the lead male body guard. A man with a sword, a female mystical power. A strong willed character. Aeris the anicent and Yuna the summoner. Then Cloud the ExSolider member, Tidus being Yuna’s new guardian. Both females at some point in time came to the realization that they need to sacrifice themselves. Aeris sacrificed herself to activate holy, Yuna was willing to sacrifice herself to receive the final aeon, which would bring the calm. Tidus/Shuyin even kinda look like the FF7:AC Cloud and Yuna has a SLIGHT ressemablance to Aeris.

Forth, both places of great importance occur near a mountain. The promise land, or the northern cave, is just above the artic caps for FF7. In FF10, you must get past Mount Gagazet in order to get Zanarkand, the location where Yuna will recieve the final aeon, supposedly…

Next, we have the magic system and the idea of knowledge/memories. In FF7, every character can cast spells or do other commands if they have materia. Little spheres of knowledge of the ancients. The lifestream also contains this information. Past lifes and such. In FF10, we have spheres. These little guys similarly. Every character can learn just about everything with the spheres, stats can go up, learn magic, along with information and memories being stored in some spheres. The lifestream and farplane have a few similarities as well. Being places where the dead rest.

Furthermore, the male lead has identity questions and is a pawn in some respects. In FF7, it is believed Cloud might have been an experimental clone and has some mixed up memories of another person, named Zack, also loving Aeris. At times, he is even manipulated by Jenova/Sephiroth to do things he doesn’t want to. In FF10, we discover Tidus is a dream, created by the fayth in order to battle against sin and aid Yuna. In FFX-2, we discover someone exactly like Tidus. Same moves, loved a summoner like Yuna, and such. It is possible that perhaps Tidus was the dream of Shuyin….

Thats all for now. 🙂

it’s easy to agree with your logic Gandalf..i haven’t finished X-2 and probably never will (borrowed it from some dude that took it back w/o letting me finish..bastage..). but i get the main story, at least about Shuyin..Nooj and the other two dudes and Vegnagun is a mystery to me..

but anyway..the graphics and main storylines of X and VII greatly deviate from eachother…
VII: Shinra conglomorate and Cetra’s descendants..
X: More about the romantic drama between guardian and summoner..
X-2: not enough information dammit….

Yes some things are a bit similar but I must say that there are HUGE differences, for starters in FF VII there is a lot of technology and in FF X it is almost nowhere to be found…

And in FF X it is about Yuna en Tidus and in FF VII it is about Cloud, Earis AND Tifa…

And the last thing I must say is that Tidus didn�t exist and Cloud truly does exist…

So some things seem to be the same but the difference is noticable..

There definately are some similaritys but it’s probably just a coincidence.

Also virtualy every RPG has the male lead as a fighter with a sword and the female lead a magic user of some sort.

Originally posted by Gandalf
I’m not sure if anyone else felt this, but when I played FF7, it automatically reminded me of FF7. Here are some reasons why:

Funny FFX reminded me of FFX 😡

Okay enough with the fun stuff. I can see why FFX reminded you of FFVII but it feels a little farfetched to me, sure the links make sense but we could compare any FF to another FF this way.

All FFs have similiarities.

Cloud and Tidus look a little bit similar. And the fact that they are fighting a power craving maniac that wants to rule the whole world can’t be overlooked either. Plus, both the Cids in the games controlled airships.

What power craving maniac would be in FFX? And almost every Cid in any FF game is captain of an Airship.

Actually, if you played FF8, you would remember that Cid was the leader of Balamb Garden. And in FF9, he was king of one of the kingdoms. Also, if Seymour isn’t a power craving maniac, then what is he?

Yeah but Seymour is not really the main enemy…

I’ll just reiterate what other people have already said.

(Official) FFX and FFX-2 are the prequel to FF7, of course there’s goin to be numerous similarities.

http://forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11113

Why was Cid all excited about being the first man in space in VII?
Because nobody remembers.

Well Cid is in almost all the games.
He is ussually a wise old guy and almost every game he knows a lot about airships and technics…

has a Cid been in every game or just from VII onwards?

Well..Cid was also in FFIV..can’t remember if he was in any other ones before FFVII..but about the power-crazed maniacs..it’s true Seymour isn’t the main enemy..but then so isn’t Sephiroth..if you look at it as Yu Yevon being the initial cause of summoner’s journey in FFX and Jenova being the initial cause of saving the Earth..but Seymour and Sephiroth are enemies that you mainly battle against..Yu Yevon and Jenova are just the manipulators..only difference though is that you fight Sephiroth last as One_Winged_Angel but you don’t fight Seymour last.

Well I must say Sephiroth is THE enemy in FF VII…

Ok so you fight Shinra, and Jenova is a major enemy too but the one which wants to rule the world as a god is:
Sephiroth.

Seymour wants that too but the enemy is actually Sin.
And so we come at the difference again which is mainly that in FFX it is about Sin (a great beast) and in FF VII it is about Sephiroth (a "human").

I never said that Seymour was the main enemy!!! I know Sin was the main enemy, but all I was saying was that Seymour was a power craving psycho!!!! And, your right about the Cid part, I’ll admit.

Yes Sephiroth was "THE" enemy in FFVII but he was still driven by Jenova…but you’re right about Sin/YuYevon the beast being the main enemy versus Sephiroth taking over after Jenova is..well..not there anymore..except at the North Crater..but she’s still a pushover so she’s not as significant as Sephiroth..whatever

Well….you could think of it as Sephiroth and Seymour being somewhat similar. Seymour wanted to be in control of Sin and Sephiroth used meteor in order to merge the planet’s energy.

Originally posted by shic
(Official) FFX and FFX-2 are the prequel to FF7, of course there’s goin to be numerous similarities.

What are you talking about? o_O I didn’t see anything "official" in that thread, I could barely make out what the official proof was supposed to be.

Anyways, even if FFX *WAS* a prequel, of what benefit would that be? What’s the point? It doesn’t tell us anything new about the characters in either game, it’s a completely redundant link. ^~ UNLESS Square goes somewhere with it, but then, they’re supposed to be, what, 3,000 years (according to amateurish fan theories!) apart. Even if it were true, I don’t see the point.

As for similarities, well, yeah, there are in all FFs, but I wouldn’t have thought of the ones in FFX as particularly overly-similar.

The connection was made by Kazushige Nojima(scenario writer of FFVII,FFVIII,FFX and FFX-2). Kazushige Nojima works for Square.

Looks preaty damn official to me. The point is Square might be trying to bring ALL the FF’s together.

Boy, THAT’S likely.

AND WOW! That guy works for Square and wrote all the FFs! CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE! I mean, what, if anything, did he say? Was there a statement? Was it officially announced? Basically all you seem to have is that someone else said he said it. Or was it that thing about merchandise which was barely coherent?

Originally posted by ud�

What are you talking about? o_O I didn’t see anything "official" in that thread, I could barely make out what the official proof was supposed to be.

Anyways, even if FFX *WAS* a prequel, of what benefit would that be? What’s the point? It doesn’t tell us anything new about the characters in either game, it’s a completely redundant link. ^~ UNLESS Square goes somewhere with it, but then, they’re supposed to be, what, 3,000 years (according to amateurish fan theories!) apart. Even if it were true, I don’t see the point.

As for similarities, well, yeah, there are in all FFs, but I wouldn’t have thought of the ones in FFX as particularly overly-similar.

Yes indeed and I don�t see the point either…

Originally posted by shic

Looks preaty damn official to me. The point is Square might be trying to bring ALL the FF’s together.

And then what?

Ok, guys lets calm down a little.

Anyways, while I see the similarities and make froom for the possibility that maybe its a prequel, I don’t think the fact that they shared similar writers in and of itself is conclusive proof.

Anyways,

Did anyone else notice any distinct similarities between FFX and FF7?

Good job on flaming me.

I agree I was brash. I skimmed the thread and came to a faulty conclusion.

Next time i won’t be so precocious.

What about the fact that you could fight a Weapon if you wanted to by going on a side-quest? Small,but still a similarity. An annoying but still useful character in Rikku and Cait Sith.

That’s okay! ^o^ I didn’t mean for that to come off/sound like a flame or what the god ever. Honestly, you’re spiffy <3 I’m just irate. 🙁

I think Cait Sith is rather useless…

Well just my opinion I guess.

mew… i can see the similarities.. especially after x-2 …

with the shinra refferance… and the whole life stream-energy thing.. connected wiht the pireflies rigth?