Some quotes from the new book, FF7 dismantled:
Cloud’s inner monologue before the Northern Crater fight:
Everyone left to find what they’re fighting for.
To that, Tifa stayed. I don’t have to look for what I’m fighting for, Tifa taught me that—-
Everyone came back. Barret too, Cid too, Red13 too. Midgar’s (I forget the job title) Cait sith too. I was surprised Vincent came, he didn’t seem to care of things. At last was Yuffie.
(a pep talk) To the northern crater!
I hope everything works out, and Aerith’s prayer reaches the planet.
Aeris at Gongaga:
Her initial attraction to Cloud apparently was "maybe, just maybe Cloud could be Zacks and everything would be as it was". It’s only in Gongaga that Aerith realizes Cloud and Zacks are two different people.
It makes a lot of sense. Aerith is forward with Cloud, expecting so much out of him even though she doesn’t know him and he doesn’t know her.
"Turns out, it was my bad."
"But, Cloud is Cloud."
"But Cloud, is pretty slow."
It ends with her thinking that Cloud has taken very much to Zacks’ ways but is still a dull/slow guy (that’s the real Cloud).
Think of how Cloud could only answer to Aerith with things like "I dunno" or "Nothing much", completely oblivious of her feelings. Apparently Zacks was more lively and relatable for someone like Aerith. If Zacks was asked "what do you think of me?" I don’t think he’d stare off into space like Cloud did.
Hha. And what’s funny is these quotes are as official as you can get. Yet many Cloriths try to prove it wrong. They are still working on it, and there will be diary entries from the characters.
Tifa: "So this is why you left"
Tifa: "He’s not here anymore"
Marlene: "Did he leave because he’s sick?"
WCM: "I heard you’ve been living with the orphans"
Cloud: "Let’s go home"
After this, I want to see what the people who doubted Cloud living with Tifa have to say.
You know, denial is a funny thing.
The fact of the matter is, Cloud was living with Tifa, Denzel, and Marlene. How more obvious can it get? It doesn’t take that much power of perception. I don’t get why people are clinging to those so-called interviews. Never, not once did Nomura say Cloud had been living on his own for 2 years. If I remember the word used was "currently." And all that stuff about Aeris being in Cloud’s heart, correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t that just some filler text from a magazine based on speculation? Because she asked "how are you," all of a sudden they have not seen eachother in 2 years. It seems like people are not even attempting to deal with what is presented on screen, just trying to fall back on some magazine translation from months ago.
Why would people rather say Cloud visited Seventh Heaven a few times within the 2 years? How does it make sense for a person to wish to deny the company of others while becoming emotionaly attached to two orphans?
I wish people would stop seeing this as a matter of taking sides and just face the facts of the movie. What is this? Another thing, people are getting defensive over whether or not Cloud will die. Believe you me, there are people here who are just wishing so badly that Cloud will drop dead. * Then there are people calling Tifa a bitch because she confronts Cloud about not doing anything about his illness. Someone actually said she was being selfish. Sure, if you really love and care about a person, the best thing you can do for them is allow them to wallow in self pity, loathing, and depression. Oh, and if they’re ill and just want to vanish and die all alone without trying to fight their sickness, don’t do a darn thing about it!
Brilliant.
and i find, that tifa and cloud seem to have more evidence to be together, than aerith and cloud.
http://ff.bonusweb.cz/ff7/$Julie!s!Zhuo$-ff7-tifa_and_cloud-.jpg
You cannot say that because it isn’t true. There is evidence that shows Aeris and Cloud being intrested in one another. Take the date in the Gold Saucer for example. Or, when they first meet up in the church of the Sector Five Slums.
Yuffie is mine, ok, so buzz off. ^_^
I didn’y say she was never INTERESTED in him. I’m just saying that her love for him wasn’t as strong as Tifa’s was. If Cloud was going to die, Aerith wouldn’t sacrifice herself, but Tifa would.
That’s right, I think so too. Only Tifa would sacrifice herself to save Cloud because she loves him.
But I think that Tifa_Martial_Artist just showed all those Anti-Cloud-Tifa people with all her evidence. Way to go!
Hmmm… you know, when I think about it, you’re right. Aeris knew that she was going to die. If she’s already going to die, why not give her life for someone she loves, right? That’s a good point, I must say. Cloud’s just so damn lucky… But I like Yuffie the most… ^_^
I never said you never said she never was INTRESTED in him, though.
I’m just saying that her love for him wasn’t as strong as Tifa’s was. If Cloud was going to die, Aerith wouldn’t sacrifice herself, but Tifa would.
Aeris has already proved that she is willing to give up her life for what she stands for. Tifa hasn’t.
Tifa never got the chance to prove that she would give her life up for something she believes in. If Tifa had been given the chance, she would do the same as Aeris, I’m sure of that.
I’m sorry but you’re sadly mistaken. When the North Crater was about to collapse, and Cloud could’ve possibly died, who stayed with him? Tifa did. She could’ve died, but she didn’t care, because to her all that matters is Cloud. She’s willing to give her life up for him, to be with him.
But for Aerith, not really. She stood by for what she beleived would save the planet. She was an Ancient. It was her destiny.
If Tifa love was really strong for cloud then why did she lead him to his doom. Cloud and Aeris love was stronger than anything else. If their love wasn’t so strong, then why at the end the game, Cloud could sense Aeris. Cloud was the only one in the whole group who could sense Aeris presence. By the way, for 2 people to be together, they must come to an understandment. Tifa did not understand Cloud as well as she thought she did. The only that really understood him was AEris and Aeris only.
erm what are you talking about? Tifa never intentionally led Cloud to anything, however if you are referring to him joining and subsequently failing SOLDIER, then that was not Tifas fault…her mother had just died around that time Cloud was desperate to get Tifa to notice him, but all she wanted was her mother back (a natural reaction)
Tifa did not understand Cloud as well as she thought she did. The only that really understood him was AEris and Aeris only.
Err yet again where did you get that from? it was Tifa who allowed Cloud, to rediscover himself when he fell into the Lifestream. If Tifa did not understand Cloud she would not have been able to help him during that time. what evidence is there to suggest that Aeris understood anything about Cloud.
But for Aerith, not really. She stood by for what she beleived would save the planet. She was an Ancient. It was her destiny.
That is true, Tifa did stay behind when Cloud went and fought sephiroth. You see Tifa there with the crater collapsing holding her hand out for Cloud. So you cant say Tifa would have not done the same.
And with Aerith, I think it was decision of Cloud and Hers. I know at some point they came to a silent agreement in what she had to do, and he followed her, so they both could fufill it. She died for the planet, but gave her last prayer to cloud.
Please, if Tifa wanted to killed herself for Cloud, try better. Her death would mean nothing for the world since she can’t contribute cr@p to the world. Willing to die for Cloud, yeah right. Aeris’s death was a lot better. Her was for the world so that everyone can live every other day, not for selfish needs like Tifa. What would Tifa contribute? summoning holy to save the world and Cloud. Give a better reasoning than that since Tifa can’t contribute anything besides for her selfish needs.
Sorry, but if you and your lover doesn’t reach to an understandment then yur relationship is going to tumble down.
Please, if Tifa wanted to killed herself for Cloud, try better. Her death would mean nothing for the world since she can’t contribute cr@p to the world. Willing to die for Cloud, yeah right. Aeris’s death was a lot better. Her was for the world so that everyone can live every other day, not for selfish needs like Tifa. What would Tifa contribute? summoning holy to save the world and Cloud. Give a better reasoning than that since Tifa can’t contribute anything besides for her selfish needs.
OH, GOD. GET OVER IT.
Well where is the proof for Cloud and Aeris strong connection???
One day at the well doesn’t prove that they were friends. And yet, Tifa admitted herself that she didn’t know Cloud as well as she thought. If they had a strong connection, she wouldn’t had lied to Cloud about his past nor let him doubt himself. Gawd. I recall a time when Cloud was so desperate to find out who he was that he turn to Tifa for help, for reconfirmation of his past and yet, sadly, OMG, she didn’t tell him anything.
Tifa did not lie about his past.
"Tifa is also worried that her memories have been messed up. Although she never saw Cloud at the Nibelheim incident, she can’t fault the fact he knows exactly what happened. Also she remembers growing up with him and is not sure is Cloud is the Cloud she grew up with, one who was made five years ago and given somem of "her" Clouds background or that it is the real Cloud and her own recollections of what happened are in error. Just before they descend into the North Cave they are barraged by illusions fro Sephiroth where he tells Cloud he was made piece by piece from Jenova cells to be a clone of him. Then shaped using Tifa’s memories, Tifa who could never remember what happened after Sephiroth wounded her has no way of knowing this is not true.
Sephiroth: "Cloud… Don’t blame Tifa. The ability to change one’s looks,
voice, and words, is the power of Jenova. Inside of you, Jenova has merged with Tifa’s memories, creating you. Out of Tifa’s memory…A boy named Cloud
might’ve just been a part of them."
Again, it is not until the Lifestream sequence that she realises Cloud was at
Nibelheim all the time."
Borrowed from Falsehead’s Plot Analysis Guide at gamefaqs.com
Please, if Tifa wanted to killed herself for Cloud, try better. Her death would mean nothing for the world since she can’t contribute cr@p to the world. Willing to die for Cloud, yeah right. Aeris’s death was a lot better. Her was for the world so that everyone can live every other day, not for selfish needs like Tifa. What would Tifa contribute? summoning holy to save the world and Cloud. Give a better reasoning than that since Tifa can’t contribute anything besides for her selfish needs.
I think what was meant by the fact that Tifa would willing give up her life to save Cloud should not be taken by phyhically killing herself. She meant that Tifa was prepared to give up her life to look after him when it looked like he
would be mentally and physically disabled for life. Not actually kill herself.
Please, if Tifa wanted to killed herself for Cloud, try better. Her death would mean nothing for the world since she can’t contribute cr@p to the world. Willing to die for Cloud, yeah right. Aeris’s death was a lot better. Her was for the world so that everyone can live every other day, not for selfish needs like Tifa. What would Tifa contribute? summoning holy to save the world and Cloud. Give a better reasoning than that since Tifa can’t contribute anything besides for her selfish needs.
Did Tifa really lie? I mean, to me it seems more like she was trying to hold onto these broken memories, not knowing if they were real or not. She was sort of out there, not knowing whats wrong with Cloud and constantly worried. So she wasnt only protecting herself from this ‘truth’ she was protecting him. Its like, she couldnt give him all that information right away, that would stress him out so much more than he already was.
And with the whole childhood thing, she did admit some of her friends were kinda of abusive. But like I stated in the Clortih thread, anyone would want to be part of the biggest group of kids to fit in and feel wanted. Cloud wanted that, and Tifa like him, but if she showed it she would feel rejected. You cant blame her for this, she was a child, and wanted to be accepted by the boys just as much as cloud wanted too.
And also, the only reason Aerith’s death really ment something was because she was an ancient. If Tifa sacrificed herself, it wouldnt do much for the planet, but it would probably strike cloud in a way would it not?
Meh, Having aeris and tifa died would strike Cloud but who would contribute the most out of it? That’s the question. Aeris died but not for selfish reasons. She basically gave everything up so that EVERYONE in the WORLD could live another day since they basically wanted to give up but she gave them hope and something to look forward too. That is something Tifa can’t even contribute too.
Really, if those aren’t lies you called that Love? That needs a better reasoning than that. Cloud basically consider her as a friend and ask her multiple times about what happened and where were you. He even doubted himself and knew that something wasn’t right when he asked Tifa once but she blew up in his face and didn’t want to talk about it. He even became desperate to know who he was. That’s not protection if she was right there and didn’t bother to do anything. Connect it together til the lifestream event and that equals guilt. Who pulled him down when he wanted to know if his past was right? That was the only option left for Tifa to reconcile with Cloud and set his past straight.
Wasn’t Cloud ashamed of his past so he used Zacks past as his own, and went into denial and eventually lead himself to believe that his past was really Zacks.
Oh yeah, what are Tifa’s "selfish" reasons for dieing for Cloud?
I haven???t been here lately, I really thought they closed down the debating threads. Oh well, here I am again. Hello CIML!
Cloud will be reunited with Aeris when he dies thus the movie will end in Cleris.
Only if Cloud suddenly gained Cetra powers. As far as we know, Cloud is a normal human being and normal human beings die, join the Lifestream and their energy is reused to form new life. According to the Elders (which you can talk to at Cosmo Canyon) The Promised Land is a place for Ancients only. Elder Hargo says that the Promised Land exists for Ancients, but not for humans. That means humans must take a rain check.
So no, Cloud and Aeris are not going to meet and rest in each other???s arms in the PL.
Anyone who wants to argue facts taken from the actual game may go ahead. -_-
Okay, I’ve gotta toss in my two cents. So WHAT if Aeris is dead!? Let me use some examples:
Raine was dead for 17 years, yet Laguna STILL LOVED HER
As far as Garnet knew, Zidane was dead and several years after she lost him, SHE STILL LOVED HIM(in fact, it sounded like she was going to kill herself to reunite with him)
Tidus ceased to exist in yet YUNA STILL LOVED HIM, and in FFX-2, TWO YEARS LATER, she continued to love him! So much so, that he was returned to her!
Anybody seeing an FF trend here?
So, sorry sweeties. You can throw "AERIS IS DEAD!" around all you want, but it proves no point. Except that of course, all the other greatest FF couples were similar
No one is saying he can???t love her. Can you say he loves her still in AC, with certainty? 🙂
FINAL FANTASY?????? VII ADVENT CHILDREN??????
Two years after the events of FINAL FANTASY VII, the ruins of Midgar stand as testament to the sacrifices that were made in order to bring peace. However, the world will soon face a new menace. A mysterious illness is spreading fast. Old enemies are astir. And Cloud, who walked away from the life of a hero to live in solitude, must step forward yet again…
If he walked away from the life of a hero, then that would be directly after the events of FFVII, right? So, he has been living in solitude all this time.
The tour program for the "Dear Friends Concert" had this to say:
Two years after the Advented Armageddon, the city of Midgar stands in ruins, but the world has survived and continues on in peace. However the people of Gaia now face a new menance. Cloud, who fought for the sake of his world once before has rejected society to live in solitude, must step forward yet again.
Doesn’t "society" include his friends AND Tifa?
From Dengeki…
Cloud: After the battle, he hid in secret and lived a quiet life alone. However, he is attacked by the 3 mysterious men who suddenly appear, and decides to once again return to the battle ground. Not even knowing what they want, he is forced to draw his sword.
Aerith: A woman who fell to Sephiroth’s sword during the battle two years ago. A young woman resembling her appears before Cloud. Are these dreams Cloud is having….? Or are they…!? Is there a chance she will be revived!?
Tifa: She returned to Seventh Heaven in Midgar after the fighting, and manages it alone. As before, she takes good care of Marlene, Barret’s daughter.
Tifa supported Cloud from the shadows. But it doesn’t seem that they got together after the fighting. They are living apart, and Cloud doesn’t communicate with her much. Aerith is still in Cloud’s heart, and Tifa understands that…. It looks like that sort of relationship.
From an interview with Kitase and Nomura from The PlayStation…
And as for Tifa and Cloud’s relationship?
It’s now 2 years after that journey, Tifa manages the bar Seventh Heaven in Midgar’s sector 7 by herself. We can gather that they haven’t seen each other in a while from the words "how are you?" The person on the other end of the phone doesn’t seem to be Cloud, but could he be the subject of the call?
From an interview with Nomura:
– One after another, the old friends return to Midgar.
– Cloud, who up till this point has lived apart from his former friends, now returns to Midgar, at which point the scene in Tifa’s bar probably takes place. Otherwise, he spends much of his time travelling on Fenrir (as a kind of "carrier") and frequently changes where he stays.
From the OFFICIAL trailer screened several times, including Montreal FF with SUBTITLES. Script written by the STAFF.
Denzel: ???Where???s Cloud???
Marlene: ???Did he leave because he???s sick????
Tifa: ???So this is why you left??? (after taking a look at the bandages in the church)
WCM: ???I heard you???ve been living with the orphans???
Tifa: ???He???s not here anymore???
Cloud: (After his talk with Vincent about taking Marlene back to 7th heaven) ???Let???s go home Marlene???
A visit is when one comes, stays for a short period of time and then leaves again. If this is the case with Cloud, then why are Tifa , Marlene and Denzel so surprised by Cloud???s absence? It???d be perfectly normal for Cloud not to be with them all the time as he spends much of his time away, correct?
So why all the above quotes? Because they have been living together. It???s sad to see people deny OFFICIAL trailer info.
From an interview with Kitase and Nomura from The PlayStation…
And as for Tifa and Cloud’s relationship?
It’s now 2 years after that journey, Tifa manages the bar Seventh Heaven in Midgar’s sector 7 by herself. We can gather that they haven’t seen each other in a while from the words "how are you?" The person on the other end of the phone doesn’t seem to be Cloud, but could he be the subject of the call?
That was translated by a fan, am I wrong? Can you give me Kitase???s exact quote? I have seen enough of these fan translated magazines and speculations. Just like the one about Tifa asking Cloud if he wanted to die to be with Aeris. That is not actually correct. That quote NEVER appeared ANYWHERE, much less in a trailer. It was the translator adding his/her own bias. This is what Cloud and Aeris have in AC, fan speculations and false information. Official trailers are against them. Sorry to burst your bubble.
If you would like me to start listing a variety of magazines that are in favor of Cloud and Tifa, I can do that too. You are well aware that they outnumber the Cleris ones, aren???t you Shiva? :shifty:
People try everything to make their point. It’s weird but normal
No, it???s human nature to believe what the trailers show (put together by the staff) and not what fans and editors speculate. 🙂
I just got one thing to ask of Clorith’s…..Show me facts FROM THE GAME, NOT SOMEONES POINT OF VIEW…on anthing that ever actually says anything about Cloud loving Aeris….to be honest Throughout playing the game…
Especially not ???facts??? from magazines (outdated) where the editor wants to know Cloud???s ringtone. :shifty:
In the Shinra HQ, after your captured and thrown in jail, if you go to the door of your cell you’re presented with a choice of who to ask about. Now, everywhere else in the game the arrow was always automatically on the first choice, but in this case it’s gotten itself lost and found its way to Aeris, the last option. Making her first in Cloud’s mind.
You left out the part where Cloud and Tifa are together in the cell. But of course, you can always choose to ask about Red.
You can also say Tifa is your girlfriend. Can you do that for Aeris? NO. You can say that next to Tifa, who wouldn???t sleep well, which is not a very subtle innuendo. Can you do that for Aeris? NO. Your point being? :shifty:
"Are you all right?" "Aeris?! You safe?"
Is that what you consider love? Him worrying about her health? Wow, you are really grasping at straws.
"No Aeris! I can’t let you get involved," "Aeris, I got you mixed up in all this."
Yes, let???s completely ignore the fact that they are there to save Tifa in the first place. In fact, Cloud says that his first priority is Tifa???s safety. He dresses up as a woman to save her. Any more points you???ve got? -_-
Cloud shows through this dialouge that he obviously takes being Aeris’ bodyguard very seriously, but when does he say anything of the like about Tifa?
Did you forget their promise under the stars? Did you forget that he protected Tifa throughout all three disks? Did you forget that he blamed himself for not being there for Tifa? Did you forget how many times he repeats his promise to her? Especially after the Lifestream Sequence? Or are you purposefully ignoring it? :rolleyes:
When Aeris died he fell apart. We saw a whole new part of Cloud. He cried and he ranted. When he thought Tifa was "a goner" what did he do? Toss her to the side, then rush up to fight Sephiroth.
Are you saying he didn???t care about Tifa? I am tired of this comparison. The least the Cloriths could do is acknowledge Cloud and Tifa???s bond of friendship at least. For your info, they were completely different circumstances. Let???s also not forget he killed Cloud???s family and destroyed his hometown. In his anger Cloud put Tifa aside gently and went to get revenge for her death and
all the others.
He also fell apart when Zack died. He merged his memories and blocked out certain others. It???s a defense mechanism and it shows Cloud???s state of mind. Was he in love with Zack as well? (This question is not directed at the yaoi lovers 😛 )
All of Aeris and Cloud’s romantic scenes were non-optional, while the "only romantic scene in the game"(the highwind scene)was COMPLETELY reliant on the Date Mechanism.
It was also there, in your face, no matter what you got. Cloud still slept with Tifa no matter what you got. Cloud still NEVER mentioned Aeris, no matter what you got. Tifa still confessed no matter what you got. She was still embarrassed the next morning, no matter what you got.
I think that he yelled at him because for the first time he was actually truly angered at him killing someone. His anger and pain were so great he couldn’t even stand and try to avenge her.
Yet here you are arguing that Cloud getting angry and avenging her death (as well as the others???) is not showing love, yet sitting there yelling is. Yes, I see the logic in that <_<
Cloud did get angry and Cloud did go after Sephiroth. However that is not to say he didn???t care about Aeris that is why he didn???t fight Seph. That???s ludicrous. Just like saying he didn???t care about Tifa so he ignored her. It???s a little hypocritical to say what you said.
If that is the best you can do, then just give up now. You make yourself look even more idiotic every time you post your garbage on here. In case you neglected to notice, those quotes were from S-E USA, NOMURA, KITASE, and DENGEKI. Dengeki gets its info DIRECT from S-E– they have been the first to release all of the photos and info we have gotten so far. You have believed everything else they have said. But they say something ClAeris related and you don’t want to believe it. How very typically hypocritical of you. As usual, you have Jack and Squat for proof. And Jack left town… I have quotes from the official company, the director of the movie, and the producer of the movie. MOST of those quotes are from Nomura himself. PWNED, loser…
The Queen of insults is back.
Who says we have Jack and Squat for proof? I have OFFICIAL trailer info and you have outdated fan-translated magazines and other such speculations.
As for Nomura and Kitase, they have also said that the movie has grasped Tifa and Cloud???s relationship and that Cloud and Tifa???s destiny will be revealed. :shifty: You may take it as you please, the implications are still there. Never was anything of the sort said about Aerth and Cloud in AC.
And your proof is where? I have SEVERAL quotes that state Cloud has been alone since FFVII from OFFICIAL sources. You have diddly, buddy.
Do you consider the trailer Unofficial? :huh:
EGM is an American magazine. They don’t get their info from S-E at all. In fact, the whole article was someone’s opinion. So, GET OVER IT. And, BTW, in the very next article EGM put out on AC, they changed "main squeeze" to "lady friend". LMAO!!!
"Cloud comes to the aid of his ladyfriend Tifa, and then ponders whether he used enough hair spray"
And it was the scene where Cloud rescued Tifa, too. Coincidentally, this was also the first issue in which they introduced a picture of Aerith. Talk about a serious plunge. From "main squeeze" to "lady friend" in the magazine you consider official, CIML. PWNED, loser…
Oh American magazines are not good enough for you? And it seems you completely missed CIML???s point. She said she doesn???t consider it official. Besides, what about ???Love International style???? What about the tickets and invitations with Cloud and Tifa on? The posters? The promotional pictures of AC on several official film festival websites? Did you see any of Cloud and Aeris? NO. It was all Cloud and Tifa. Gamespot also said that they had been living together. Nomura used ???currently??? several times when speaking of Cloud???s whereabouts, but that is always overlooked. What about the relationship chart, which was not on an American magazine?
You are the one who needs magazines to back up your points when I have the OFFICIAL TRAILER. Pwned? I think not…… :shifty:
Your mind is really simple, isn’t it? Where have we seen orphans? Well, we saw Marlene and Denzel with Tifa. What about all the others? What about all of the orphans we saw with Kadaj later? Where did they come from? I never saw them with Tifa. Denzel and Marlene seem to be the only orphans at Seventh Heaven. We have seen no evidence of other orphans living there. Is it so hard for your mind to grasp that there is MORE than one orphanage on Gaia?
The magazines you rely on have stated several times that Tifa takes care of all the orphans. :rolleyes: If Cloud???s living with them, he???s living with Tifa as well.
But then you claim that Cloud spends much of his time on the road. How???s he taking care of orphans then? Answer me that.
Again, official info from the TRAILERS and magazines state that Tifa takes care of the orphans, while you are sitting on your ass speculating about what may be happening with no real evidence to back it up.
Anyways, it is amusing that the WCM gets to Cloud by asking him if he would like to see the orphans smile again. Notice, he didn’t say anything about making Tifa happy. He didn’t say, "Wouldn’t you like to make Tifa smile again?". Because Cloud isn’t driven by that, sorry to break it to you. Cloud is only interested in saving the children and meeting Aerith again. So, get used to the idea. It will make you less disappointed later.
No one said he is. But they did say he???s been living with the orphans, which Tifa???s taking care of. Which ultimately leads to only one possible thing. Cloud lived with Tifa.
Only concerned about the children and meeting Aerith again? :w00t: Which why all he says to Aeris is ???I want to be forgiven???. Can you feel the love tonight, cause I can???t. :shifty:
Oh, the orphans are attached to Cloud, eh? And your proof…? Oh, that’s right. You don’t have any. We see a couple of drawings on the wall and that is your proof. *Snort* Did it EVER cross your mind that Marlene drew them? She KNEW Cloud before all this, after all.
Yes, that???s why Denzel asks for him. Which is why they have pictures together. You may not consider our proof enough, but you on the other hand have NOTHING to support that Marlene drew them. Nice try.
You think Cloud dying would be cheesy? How about Cloud ending up with his "childhood friend". Talk about CHEESY, shallow, trite, not to mention BORING.
Unfortunately for you, the creators called a relationship between Aeris and Cloud cheesy and cliche, nothing of the sort was ever said for Tifa and Cloud. You are the only one who thinks so. 🙂
S-E wanted to avoid such cliche’ romances, so they came up with CloudxAerith.
Actually dear, you got your facts wrong. Nomura and Kitase both said that a relationship between Cloud and Aeris was cliche and cheesy. They didn???t want a couple like that because it had been done several times, both in the West and East. They wanted to "avoid Eastern and Western cliches" (actual quote) and that meant Cloud and Aerith. Which makes sense since Nomura killed her off and put it another female character.
I mean come on who wants to see the same damn love story over and over, we’ve seen the death and reuniting once we don’t need to see it again, that’s gotta be the most cliche romance iin my opinion.
You, Nomura and Kitase think alike. ^_^
Monolouge? Uh…have you seen the trailer? Didn’t think so. And she doesn’t refer to him as a "he". She talks to him directly, there are flashes of their conversation while Cloud is flying up in the air with his sword.
Agreed. Tifa actually gives him strength on more than one occasion. I actually still have the trailer (only sound) which I got from ACF since I saved it. Cloud calls 7th Heaven his home. You can easily come to that conclusion because Vincent and Cloud were talking about taking Marlene back home, to 7th Heaven.
Cloud: ???Let???s go home Marlene???
Again, an indication they have been together.
Look, using quotes that we don’t know what’re about, talking about scenes that we don’t know the order of, putting words in people’s mouths and assuming are not working.
Oh so now the trailer is wrong because it???s not in order. Yes, of course. :rolleyes:
No one is assuming. The quotes that are up there are there. They are not wrong or incomplete. The scenes might be, but that doesn???t mean that the actual quotes are misleading. When Tifa looks at the bandages on the floor and says ???So this is why you left???, it is obvious she???s referring to Cloud leaving them because of Geostigma. When the WCM says ???I heard you???ve been living with the orphans??? it is exactly that. Unless of course Square is giving us misleading info on purpose which is highly unlikely.
So let’s put those aside and focus on what SE gives us, not trailers, not magazines(especially ones with questionable sources), not sound bites.
Trailers are as official as anything gets. It’s what Square’s given you so far. According to you, we should believe nothing that’s on them in which case we know nothing about AC. I’m sorry, it doesn’t work that way. Trailers are proof, if you choose to ignore them that’s each individual’s problem. If something that’s put out by Square isn’t official, then I don’t know what you would consider official.
Where is your proof that the quote is wrong?
Where is yours that it is right? Your quote of Tifa scolding Cloud for wanting to meet Aerith was also proven wrong. Any more false translations you want to throw our way?
Oh, you mean that picture where Cloud is standing as far to the side as he can? You mean that picture where Cloud looks to be ANYTHING but happy?
And you know this because of the high quality of the picture? You see what you want to see, but truth is you can hardly see Cloud???s face. He???s in the picture, but his face isn???t visible. Stop coming up with wild theories based on nothing. You can???t tell Cloud???s not happy. You are making that up, nice try. Unfortunately for you, I have the picture right here.
So, where do you see him far away? Where does he look unhappy?
Um, again, let me explain this to you so that even your shrivelled mind can grasp it… Marlene knew Cloud, right? Cloud stops by now and again, right? Marlene, who now lives at Seventh Heaven, drew a pic of Cloud, her hero, right? I didn’t say ANYTHING about Marlene drawing it pre-AC. That is your short-circuiting brain at work.
The only problem there is that we have actual evidence and pictures from the trailer to back up what we are saying while you are merely speculating. Where is your proof of what you are now saying? Show it to me.
But the fact is, SE gave us the real deal here. Not outdated magazine quotes. Not false fan translations. This is IT. What we have so far from the Montreal Film Festival screening.
No kidding. Shinobiyuffie, if you hate Tifa so much, make a thread about it.
You must have been gone too long to realize that I didn’t start this whole mag-jig-a-thing. Your friends with aeriscloud right, why don’t you read the last 2-4 pages of the posting of the thread to see who’s doing the flaming and hating first? Really, try harder to get it right since I didn’t call anyone names but brought a challege with a discussion. I can leave this thread alone and was not gonna bother but who cares know seeing how someone likes to come bashing in. (And its not you, but go read the last few to see, if you’re gonna get all mad saying that I claim its you when I didn’t. Read it and you’ll see.) So, its really one for one. If you can’t answer it, than let someone else. I know what little white lies are and those aren’t little white lies. Please, if that’s how a friend, who you most cherished and love, treat you like that, the end result won’t come to what happen like Cloud. It’ll be something worst. Think it through since most of you haven’t done that.
*cough* LOL, really,TMA, you called that an argument that proves the movie screams cloti. Oh, what was it, that’s right, it shut the bias cloriths up. Try better since I printed your little so called agrument and let my english teacher read it. You know what, he was laughing at that lame agrument since its screaming BIAS post all over. Need a hint? Try harder in studying writing skills and learn difference between bias and non-bias. Please, if its suppose to discredit all cloriths arguments, try harder. I been to ac.net and read the translation. That so called "out dated" fan mag. is not outdated since they have two neutrals translators to do the job. What are you gonna tell me, that AC.net is bias. Please, try harder since a lot of info. was left out. How about his talk with Vincent on what he’s fighting for, his talk with aeris. Oh, than slanging that Aeris wasn’t shown once in the movie, it was all the time of Tifa? Please, maybe I’m color blind or the colors was to bright, but you’re basically nit-picking the stuff you want. There’s more than two trailers. You’re little slang at how cloriths are using "fan" mags for their argument just been rebuttal since looks who’s trying to used those "so-called" fan mags that was translated by fans. Really, or are those from Ac.net since they’re accurate with their translations and their translators are neutrals. But then again, you’ll probably say something stupid and deneid that as well.
Oh yes, Cloud cared a lot about Tifa that who suggested that Cloud cross-dress to saved her? Tifa herself. Wait! She was capture, so it was Aeris. How about when Aeris risked her life and gave priotity to Marlene to escape from Shinra ? How about giving everyone else prioity so that they can escape and Aeris got capture? Oh yes, and what? You’re gonna tell me that Cloud didn’t want to save Aeris but he had too because Aeris was a trouble maker and was jealous of which she wanted attention, that’s why she did it, for selfish needs.
Ha. Don’t make me laugh. What are you, a two faced split personality? One good and one bad. Really, I’m childish and whines because I can’t get what I want. Oh gawd,you need to do a reality check since who was coming into the Cloud&Aeris thread all whining and bashing. Open your eyes, trying to act all innocent like you didn’t do nothing since the whining and can’t get what you want is YOU. Oh, that’s right. Everyone else who made sense got skipped over so that you can post your little so called non bias Cloti interpreatation when its screaming bias all over. Really, you haven’t try hard enough to grasp the concept, just like you didn’t try so hard in "Why FF7 isn’t the greatest" thread. It was so lame that it got shred in two but yet you call them names since they totally shreded and nit pick every aspect of that lame post. You can’t even grasp the concept of a decent discussion, so basically, you’re just making a fool outta yourself.
If you can find something stating he will be with either of them, then fine, but if not, then really, there no way of saying he’s with Tifa or Aeris.
And as for the lifestream bit. Did Cloud really have a choice of Tifa helping him? I’d say no.
And as for the lifestream bit. Did Cloud really have a choice of Tifa helping him? I’d say no.
well you see…cloud loves tifa as well as aeris also do you remember the time when cloud and tifa was alone at the highwind when every one left makes you wonder what they did doesn’t it..
Again, an assuption. You don’t know what they did, so that is no clear evidence as far as I’m cocerned.
And the life stream, Cloud was all weird, and Tifa wheeled him thru and fell. There’s no saying if she wanted to be involved. And Cloud didn’t really open up to her. He had no choice. Since she was there, he had to go through it. Think about it for a second.
And the life stream, Cloud was all weird, and Tifa wheeled him thru and fell. There’s no saying if she wanted to be involved. And Cloud didn’t really open up to her. He had no choice. Since she was there, he had to go through it. Think about it for a second.
I know what it is your saying but tifa really did care for cloud that time she even stcik with cloud and cid and the others had do things themselves without her since tifa wanted to make sure he was safe cause he’s the only person she has now also yuffie also liked cloud and what about that one girl who gave you shiva?
what does that have to do with anything?
And Yuffie is a possiblity, but this tread is about TifaxCloud so..
Which argument? Are you saying the latest one I just posted? With FACTS straight from the trailer? Try harder? Study writing skills? I laughed when you said that. "Try harder" And what do you suppose I’m doing? I can’t try any harder to convince you. Your stubborn mind won’t grasp it. Look at the one who’s clinging to straws, once again. And I also laughed when you said that..o_O You showed it to your English teacher. What the hell would an English teacher know about the LT debate? Is your mind on drugs or something?
You must have been gone too long to realize that I didn’t start this whole mag-jig-a-thing. Your friends with aeriscloud right, why don’t you read the last 2-4 pages of the posting of the thread to see who’s doing the flaming and hating first? Really, try harder to get it right since I didn’t call anyone names but brought a challege with a discussion. I can leave this thread alone and was not gonna bother but who cares know seeing how someone likes to come bashing in. (And its not you, but go read the last few to see, if you’re gonna get all mad saying that I claim its you when I didn’t. Read it and you’ll see.) So, its really one for one. If you can’t answer it, than let someone else. I know what little white lies are and those aren’t little white lies. Please, if that’s how a friend, who you most cherished and love, treat you like that, the end result won’t come to what happen like Cloud. It’ll be something worst. Think it through since most of you haven’t done that.
*cough* LOL, really,TMA, you called that an argument that proves the movie screams cloti. Oh, what was it, that’s right, it shut the bias cloriths up. Try better since I printed your little so called agrument and let my english teacher read it. You know what, he was laughing at that lame agrument since its screaming BIAS post all over. Need a hint? Try harder in studying writing skills and learn difference between bias and non-bias. Please, if its suppose to discredit all cloriths arguments, try harder. I been to ac.net and read the translation. That so called "out dated" fan mag. is not outdated since they have two neutrals translators to do the job. What are you gonna tell me, that AC.net is bias. Please, try harder since a lot of info. was left out. How about his talk with Vincent on what he’s fighting for, his talk with aeris. Oh, than slanging that Aeris wasn’t shown once in the movie, it was all the time of Tifa? Please, maybe I’m color blind or the colors was to bright, but you’re basically nit-picking the stuff you want. There’s more than two trailers. You’re little slang at how cloriths are using "fan" mags for their argument just been rebuttal since looks who’s trying to used those "so-called" fan mags that was translated by fans. Really, or are those from Ac.net since they’re accurate with their translations and their translators are neutrals. But then again, you’ll probably say something stupid and deneid that as well.
Oh yes, Cloud cared a lot about Tifa that who suggested that Cloud cross-dress to saved her? Tifa herself. Wait! She was capture, so it was Aeris. How about when Aeris risked her life and gave priotity to Marlene to escape from Shinra ? How about giving everyone else prioity so that they can escape and Aeris got capture? Oh yes, and what? You’re gonna tell me that Cloud didn’t want to save Aeris but he had too because Aeris was a trouble maker and was jealous of which she wanted attention, that’s why she did it, for selfish needs.
Ha. Don’t make me laugh. What are you, a two faced split personality? One good and one bad. Really, I’m childish and whines because I can’t get what I want. Oh gawd,you need to do a reality check since who was coming into the Cloud&Aeris thread all whining and bashing. Open your eyes, trying to act all innocent like you didn’t do nothing since the whining and can’t get what you want is YOU. Oh, that’s right. Everyone else who made sense got skipped over so that you can post your little so called non bias Cloti interpreatation when its screaming bias all over. Really, you haven’t try hard enough to grasp the concept, just like you didn’t try so hard in "Why FF7 isn’t the greatest" thread. It was so lame that it got shred in two but yet you call them names since they totally shreded and nit pick every aspect of that lame post. You can’t even grasp the concept of a decent discussion, so basically, you’re just making a fool outta yourself.
Maybe you should show your English teacher your post as well. Seriously, first you spelt challenge wrong, "challege", followed by your grammar "really,TMA" (there should be a space between really, and TMA.) Next you spelt argument, "agrument". Followed by not having a capital in the word English. Next you spelt argument wrong AGAIN! Next mistake is perhaps the worst of all, there was not capital letter in Aeris. Then you spelt denied "deneid" wrong. Then you spelt priority "priotity" wrong. Further down another incorrect use of grammar. "gawd,you". Next the spelling of "interpreatation" was incorrect. It is spelt interpretation, not interpreatation as you had it. Last but not least, you spelt shredded wrong. You had it "shreded "
btw look at the thread title that TMA wrote… wanna correct that?
btw look at the thread title that TMA wrote… wanna correct that?
Um ok but I would like you to know that the only part that is wrong is one bit, although it may have of meant to be like that.
"that..o_O" That is the only part which could have been considered incorrect. Mainly because there are two fullstops. But like I said, it may have of meant to have been like that.
You know, I’m not very fond of your posts. I suggest you haul ass out of here, and save yourself the embarrassment. Instead of flaming me for being 13, why don’t you provide some evidence of your own? If you can, that is. Which btw you can’t.
ha, don’t make me laugh as I was rebuttaling her on "how bias cloriths are with their so-called ‘bias’ essays and agruments." It shows my point of how that so-called essay is bias in its own way. But than again, you probably didn’t bother to read her little remark, so meh. And please, I ask if it was bias, as in, a bias essay, since she claim that it shut up bias cloriths. Notice the difference. I guess not.
You forget to capitalize "Ha".
I’m growing tired of your childish immaturity. Save your breath the next time you decide to post a long-ass rant. Chances are not many are going to listen to you.
besides that was in the other thread not in this one. don’t tell me i started this time
embarassment? lol i’d like to see you try to embarass me. ops you already tried and failed.
besides that was in the other thread not in this one. don’t tell me i started this time
That just proves how immature you are.
you know what aeris is a two timer as well as cloud tifa also loved zack and yeah two girls like zack now that his gone it’s cloud’s turn to pay the price well his not gone he just got mako poisoning cause I found that sucker like cloud
He may not go with anyone.
He may not go with anyone.
yeah your right it’s sad to think about it…
He won’t do that he won’t I know he won’t
umm this is an answer only cloud can decide but my opinion yes tifa if he had not met aeris
In the movie i think cloud has a son well something like that I wonder oh and cloud loved them both so it must be hard on him…
yeah you may be right but aeris has a reincarnation in the movie and cloud keeps getting flashbacks of the past
but wouldn’t aerith reincarnation bring back old scars?
yeah I hope…
he does that’s why he wanted to be a soldier cause he promise her
yeah he does
well it’s both
and I think cloud worries for as any boyfriend would. He looks over her and makes sure she is alright, and she does the same. They both pull each other through in the end.
and I think cloud worries for as any boyfriend would. He looks over her and makes sure she is alright, and she does the same. They both pull each other through in the end.
that pic is wierd
they look like there never mind it’s wierd they are naked and there so close to each other you know
Teehee!
Vincent + Cloud
Red XIII + Aeris
Barret + Cait Sith
Cid + Yuffie
Dru + Tifa
Just accept it. Damn.
EDIT: And it looks like Cloud has no junk in that picture, TMA.
If you have written any essay at all, then you would know what i’m talking about. Any Ela teacher would know if its bias, unbias, speculation or asssumptions just by reading it without knowing what the topic is. That’s their job. That’s how it work, of course, you wouldn’t know. You’re probably smoking pot at school that’s why you haven’t learn nothing at all.
lolol nice one i must say
Oh dats mean. 🙁
You’re probably smoking pot at school that’s why you haven’t learn nothing at all.
You see, this is what I mean by personal attacks. Don’t think I live in the fucking ghettos with a bunch of n@@@@s and assume such things. I’m sorry, but that just pisses me off right there. For just this LT debate. You have allot to learn, I assume.
You see, this is what I mean by personal attacks. Don’t think I live in the fucking ghettos with a bunch of n@@@@s and assume such things. I’m sorry, but that just pisses me off right there. For just this LT debate. You have allot to learn, I assume.
You know, wouldn’t be simpler to ignore this?
I mean you bite back so hard, causing someone else to bite back, and before you know it a thead gets closed for it.
Just a word of advice.
You see, this is what I mean by personal attacks. Don’t think I live in the fucking ghettos with a bunch of n@@@@s and assume such things. I’m sorry, but that just pisses me off right there. For just this LT debate. You have allot to learn, I assume.
you’re not so nice in other threads. you’re a big fake you know that?
Anyways, look at this hawt sig. 🙂
besides what you do is not argue. you insult
He has a point.
LOL, please, is that suppose to be better than what Yuffie posted. Correcting her grammar and spelling mistakes without thinking about what was said. Really, if you want this thread to last long, shoved those stuck-up attitudes away and actually start doing some thinking. You might as well correct everyone???s post, including your own since it isn???t exactly perfect. No one is perfect when it comes to writing. A little grammar and spelling mistake is a lot better than branding that the other party is ???BIAS??? when you, yourselves, are no better.
TMA, why don???t you poke at your own mistakes if you want to do it at Yuffie. She showed it to her teacher, so what? Maybe that was a weird idea but it???s getting an expert remark from. Have you been sleeping in school or something? Clearly, you don???t know what their jobs are. An ELA teacher or anyone who had an English class can read it, without knowing the topic, can sum up if its bias or not. That???s one point for Yuffie and zero for you. You do know what ???bias??? and ???un-bias???, is? How about speculations and assumptions? Your little so called ???copy??? and ???paste??? it proves everything is bias with a lot of speculations and assumptions.
Official trailers? To back up what, speculations and assumptions. As of right now, the movie isn???t out yet, so both sides can be open to speculations and assumptions. Yes, it says that this Cloti has an official trailer to back it up? What, the last one only! How about the Venice one? How about the other 2 trailers on the official website? How about the trailers that came with the magazines or the game?
So, is that how it is? Considering one trailer more official than the others. Somewhere, along that line, that???s contradiction. Trailers show bits and pieces but it never stated that the orphans are living with Tifa. Where are the orphans, then? At the church? Midgar? Orphans are as ???more than one???, not just one child. And no, Marlene doesn???t count as an orphan if you want to used that as an argument. That is just absurd. Did any of you forget what Dyne said to Barret? That Marlene was too young so she probably wouldn???t recognize who her ???real??? parents are. Barrett also takes care of Marlene like a father would do and Marlene considers and knows Barrett as her father. No where in the game did Marlene ask what happen to her real parents? Where are they? Did you see that in the game or are you going to make something up for this? Why do you think Dyne threw his life away when Barrett beg and ask him to come with him and see Marlene, together? Somewhere along that line, Barrett never told Marlene. So she doesn???t know and Marlene and Barrett are daughter and father. Marlene does have a place to go to, a place called home. Isn???t that why Barrett entrusted Marlene to Tifa, because she???s part of Avalanche and know that she will be safe?
So, one trailer is more important than the other? The other trailers were fan-subbed, huh? Really? That???s also an absurd statement. I???m betting none of us even were there during the Montr???al or Venice Film screening. So how could the other be fan subs if someone captured it on a poorly angle filming by a video cam? If you want to consider one trailer more official than the other, you contradicted yourself. Unless everyone at the filming preview can and understand Japanese, why need subtitles? Ah, that???s right. Not everyone can, that???s what subtitles are for. They all show AC, so they are as official as it gets. Why don???t you ask your Cloti friend to rewrite that over since it was an absurd statement. Anyone from either side can change the subtitles to their liking, did you consider that? Probably didn???t even do it.
So, this Cloti only included lines asking about where Cloud would be. Point being? It doesn???t prove anything at the moment. How about including Cloud???s talk with Aerith? Vincent? Wait, that???s right. It???s not important but yet it has its meanings.
Hmmm???..So Cloud needs to be a Cetra to go to the Promise Land? Really? If you want to show that Cloud can???t go, provide evidence to back this up. Some of you clearly ignore all the other vital parts and nit-picked the things you want. It never stated that Cloud need to be a Cetra to go to the Promise Land. No one is even certain where it is. Sephiroth thought it was ???beyond the snowfields???- The Northern Crater ??? and Aerith even told the group that you don???t know where it is. You just feel it and know you found it. How about Cloud being able to feel Aerith???s and Sephiroth???s presence? No one was able to do that during the entire game, except for Cloud. To say that Cloud is normal isn???t exactly right if no Cloti can explain why Cloud can sense such things. How about his last line at the end, also?
Funny. Tifa has been available to Cloud for two years and yet, it???s not even a lovely dovey relationship. If you want to ask the other party if he stills love Aerith in AC, why don???t you ask yourselves if he loves Tifa with certainty in AC?
1)Why go hide in Aerith???s Church then? Why not somewhere else? Cloud could have gone anywhere and hid his secret. Someplace in Midgar, Cosmo Canyon or even far away.
2)Why did he contract himself with Geostigma if he???s ???supposed??? to have a happy relationship with Tifa?
3)Why does he want Aerith???s forgiveness so much? Why not ask Zack and apologize to him for letting Aerith died? Why not ask Zack for his forgiveness when Zack protected him and he died for that? How about seeing his friend Zack again? Why not asked Tifa for her forgiveness? For not being able to protect her friend Aerith? ??? Since so many of you said they were friends, then why not that?
Again, with this official trailer. Why isn???t it ???trailers??? and only one? There was more than one official trailer showing AC footage. I guess the light was too bright, that???s why the other trailers was where I hallucinated them. Either get this right since it???s an absurd statement.
Official trailers are only against either couple by your own interpretations. Never once did that Cloti mention Aerith???s presence. More than enough to say that you???re biased in favor of Cloti.
Funny. Asking the other party to show facts from the game when you haven???t shown any. What was that? The game was totally Cloud and Tifa. Tifa and Cloud. So, I guess Aerith never died. I guess it was a fluke. She was just a shadow of no importance. She never played a part in the game. It was Tifa who saved the world. Really? There???s a lot of evidence to support either side. But I guess some of you stuck-ups would slang it as BS and not count it at all. Of the two threads, which sides have shown a more intellectual discussion; back up by evidence and supporting points? It???s clearly not this thread as of right now.
Funny. Did this Cloti forget the other options? Pretty bias now, isn???t it? How about the part where Tifa is at one side of the room? You can also choose the other options while in that jail cell. You can also avoid Aerith or choose not to put her in the group, as it is with Tifa. But what you can???t avoid is Cloud wanting to say that he???s there for Aerith or his last line at the end of FFVII. This can also be apply to the little highwind scene. But who has it most out of it?
Oh, yes. And this Cloti also left certain parts out. And let???s not forget whose idea it was to save Tifa? How about the idea of cross-dressing Cloud? Would Cloud have come up with this idea? That argument can be turned around to Cloud wanting to make sure it was Aerith being safe.
The promise that Tifa prompted Cloud to make, how many times? Did some of you forget that he protected Aerith just as much? His ???blaming himself??? on past and present events are now two different things. So, what is he blaming himself for, now? Huh? What is it NOW?
Oh, yes. Using the merchandise now, huh? Did any of you Cloti know that you contradicted yourself? Yes. I???ve seen it so many times, slang at the other party that it doesn???t count. Really? So why are you using it yourselves? That???s right, you contradicted yourself, meaning, which couple has been shown more on merchandise? Reference to? It???s clearly wasn???t Cloti.
Again, with the assumptions and speculations? Really? That???s what the creators say? Why the heavy tones of their own culture? They wanted to ???avoid Eastern and Western clich???s??? yet it involves Western and Eastern ideals. Either do some ???real??? research or stop making things up.
LOL, well, Yuffie, guess your point was proven. There were so many things that were contradicted. Guess, they???re the one who don???t know what ???speculations??? and ???assumptions??? are if you want to slang it at the other party. Not once was Aerith mention in a good way or made reference to the trailers. Funny thing is that Cloti wanted the other party to admit Cloud and Tifa having a friendship relationship. A little contradiction there, isn???t it?
nice going btw man… or girl… whatever you are =)
can we get back on topic now?
If you have written any essay at all, then you would know what i’m talking about. Any Ela teacher would know if its bias, unbias, speculation or asssumptions just by reading it without knowing what the topic is. That’s their job. That’s how it work, of course, you wouldn’t know. You’re probably smoking pot at school that’s why you haven’t learn nothing at all.
Okay, for one thing, you don’t seem like you know how to write.
‘da teacher’
A lot better hat you can do
Any Ela teacher
First off, it’s "Elementary", not "Elamentary", fool.
What kind of grade would this post have made, I assume?
And another thing that pisses me the fuck off is your pot smoking comment. I smoke pot every day of my life so fuck you, asshole. Incidentally, even though I smoke pot every day, I’ve managed to write this post with a correct spelling of the word elementary, whereas you have the writing skills equivalent to that of a sack of batteries.
You really show that you’ve learned some things, based on your posts.
Anyways, look at this hawt sig. 🙂
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-9/824158/sexyness.gif
umm it did not work…it says denied on it
Another trouble maker….
I’m not arguing right now, why? Because this is a thread about CloudxTifa, not reasens why I am against them, fool. So go take that somewhere else. I’m going to ignore these rude comments for now.
And I’m not biased. The quotes from the trailer are there. The most recent one, the montreal one, is as official as you can get. The others are just speculations. Oh, that’s right, beleive Nomura’s interviews from a year ago, I bet Nomura would just LOVE spoiling the plot of AC. Well, looks like the tables have turned my friend.
Another trouble maker….
I’m not arguing right now, why? Because this is a thread about CloudxTifa, not reasens why I am against them, fool. So go take that somewhere else. I’m going to ignore these rude comments for now.
And I’m not biased. The quotes from the trailer are there. The most recent one, the montreal one, is as official as you can get. The others are just speculations. Oh, that’s right, beleive Nomura’s interviews from a year ago, I bet Nomura would just LOVE spoiling the plot of AC. Well, looks like the tables have turned my friend.
sorry
In other words, no matter how you try to spin it, you just gave up.
In other words, no matter how you try to spin it, you just gave up.
hehehe
point made =)
Oh no, not all all.
LOL, please, is that suppose to be better than what Yuffie posted. Correcting her grammar and spelling mistakes without thinking about what was said. Really, if you want this thread to last long, shoved those stuck-up attitudes away and actually start doing some thinking. You might as well correct everyone???s post, including your own since it isn???t exactly perfect. No one is perfect when it comes to writing. A little grammar and spelling mistake is a lot better than branding that the other party is ???BIAS??? when you, yourselves, are no better.
Wow, you know, I think I wasn’t being biased here. From the get-go, I was posting official evidence from the trailer, the one that was most recently shown, which is accuratly translated I might add. Not 1 year-old speculation. Must I repeat myself? Oh, so I suppose that magazines are not speculating at all and get their info straight from Nomura when the writer wants to know Cloud’s ringtone or if he took up a job in modeling these last 2 years. ::rollseyes:: So I guess EGM calling Tifa Cloud’s main squeeze would be official as well.
TMA, why don???t you poke at your own mistakes if you want to do it at Yuffie. She showed it to her teacher, so what? Maybe that was a weird idea but it???s getting an expert remark from. Have you been sleeping in school or something? Clearly, you don???t know what their jobs are. An ELA teacher or anyone who had an English class can read it, without knowing the topic, can sum up if its bias or not. That???s one point for Yuffie and zero for you. You do know what ???bias??? and ???un-bias???, is? How about speculations and assumptions? Your little so called ???copy??? and ???paste??? it proves everything is bias with a lot of speculations and assumptions.
Oh so I’m the one speculating now? What are you talking about? These aren’t assumptions at all. Anyone with a bit of perception and common sense would figure out what these quotes mean:
Tifa: "He’s not here anymore"
Denzel: "Where is Cloud?"
Marlene: Did Cloud leave because he’s sick?"
Wow, how can you not see that?
Tifa: (while looking at the bandages on the floor, in the church) "So this is why you left"
There is no speculation here on my part. Tifa looks at the bandages that Marlene shows her and it dawns on her why Cloud left them. That he left them because of his illness. That’s no speculation, that’s what she says in the trailer.
Cloud: "Let’s go home Marlene"
Again, Cloud and Vincent were talking about taking Marlene back to 7th Heaven. Cloud tells Vincent to go home with Marlene and then Marlene starts scolding him. Then Tifa’s voice is heard and he comes to a decision. Cloud’s "Let’s go home Marlene" line follows after that. It is quite obvious that he is referring to 7th Heaven.
There are also pictures of Cloud on the walls, drawings of the orphans, indicating that Cloud must have been there for quite some time for them to like him and draw pictures of him.
How am I speculating? All of the above is official info found in the trailers.
Official trailers? To back up what, speculations and assumptions. As of right now, the movie isn???t out yet, so both sides can be open to speculations and assumptions. Yes, it says that this Cloti has an official trailer to back it up? What, the last one only! How about the Venice one? How about the other 2 trailers on the official website? How about the trailers that came with the magazines or the game?
See the post above. How can official back up speculations and assumptions if it’s official? Do try harder please.
So, is that how it is? Considering one trailer more official than the others. Somewhere, along that line, that???s contradiction. Trailers show bits and pieces but it never stated that the orphans are living with Tifa. Where are the orphans, then? At the church? Midgar? Orphans are as ???more than one???, not just one child.
I’m not considering one trailer over another. The Venice trailer contains some of the same info. Your point? The other trailers were in Japanese but made everyone speculate on them as well. But right now what we have is OBVIOUS. Stop denying what is in your face.
Orphans are as ???more than one???, not just one child.
You said it yourself. Marlene+Denzel=2.
Trailers show bits and pieces but it never stated that the orphans are living with Tifa. [/QUOUTE]
Oh, how you are so wrong there. I suggest you get your info straight. Check AC.net or the official website. If you aren’t afraid of being proven wrong, that is.
[QUOTE]So, one trailer is more important than the other? The other trailers were fan-subbed, huh? Really? That???s also an absurd statement. I???m betting none of us even were there during the Montr???al or Venice Film screening. So how could the other be fan subs if someone captured it on a poorly angle filming by a video cam? If you want to consider one trailer more official than the other, you contradicted yourself. Unless everyone at the filming preview can and understand Japanese, why need subtitles? Ah, that???s right. Not everyone can, that???s what subtitles are for. They all show AC, so they are as official as it gets. Why don???t you ask your Cloti friend to rewrite that over since it was an absurd statement. Anyone from either side can change the subtitles to their liking, did you consider that? Probably didn???t even do it.
I never said that the trailers were fan-subbed. What my friend’s point what was that the so called "interviews" with Nomura and out-dated magazines are not fully reliable. Like Cloud living alone for 2 years.
Cloud: After the battle, he hid in secret and lived a quiet life alone. However, he is attacked by the 3 mysterious men who suddenly appear, and decides to once again return to the battle ground. Not even knowing what they want, he is forced to draw his sword.
That info is from Denkaki, and it is wrong. If he had lived a quiet life alone, then why are there pictures on the walls of 7th heaven of him, Tifa, Denzel, and Marlene together? He must have had some contact, no? Plus, before he even came face to face with Kadaj, Yazoo and Loz, they had called him in for a job. If he doesn’t know who they are, then why would accept a job from them? They attacked him because he betrayed them in some way. So there, that’s an example of OUT-DATED magazine speculation.
So, this Cloti only included lines asking about where Cloud would be. Point being? It doesn???t prove anything at the moment. How about including Cloud???s talk with Aerith? Vincent? Wait, that???s right. It???s not important but yet it has its meanings.
And your point is….? Yes, he did talk with Aerith, but nothing romantic occured. Ha, so much for your high thoughts.
Hmmm???..So Cloud needs to be a Cetra to go to the Promise Land? Really? If you want to show that Cloud can???t go, provide evidence to back this up. Some of you clearly ignore all the other vital parts and nit-picked the things you want. It never stated that Cloud need to be a Cetra to go to the Promise Land. No one is even certain where it is. Sephiroth thought it was ???beyond the snowfields???- The Northern Crater ??? and Aerith even told the group that you don???t know where it is. You just feel it and know you found it. How about Cloud being able to feel Aerith???s and Sephiroth???s presence? No one was able to do that during the entire game, except for Cloud. To say that Cloud is normal isn???t exactly right if no Cloti can explain why Cloud can sense such things. How about his last line at the end, also?
Then that must mean he loves Sephiorth, too. Oh, and Bugenhagen and all the other people in the game say so. The Ancients and all the people who know more than you do. Elder Hargo states that only Ancients can go there. Uh-huh, so Cloud is secretely an Ancient, then, I guess?
Funny. Tifa has been available to Cloud for two years and yet, it???s not even a lovely dovey relationship. If you want to ask the other party if he stills love Aerith in AC, why don???t you ask yourselves if he loves Tifa with certainty in AC?
Why would they have a lovey-dovey relashionship? So they are gonna skip-away in the sun-set and be happily ever after? What about the angry mobs of Cloriths that will be dissapointed? From what I’ve gathered, they will touch upon the delicate relashionship between Cloud, Tifa, and Aerith in the movie. And that Cloud and Tifa’s destinies will be revealed. Words of Nomura, of course.
1)Why go hide in Aerith???s Church then? Why not somewhere else? Cloud could have gone anywhere and hid his secret. Someplace in Midgar, Cosmo Canyon or even far away.
Because Cloud can be at peace there. He’s hiding the fact that he has geostigma from Tifa, so you can’t say he doesn’t care for her at all.
That’s all for now. 🙁
And also, dont you think that Aerith provided a safe spot to Cloud. Like, a way for Cloud to find comfort and peace within himself. In a way Tifa did spot reality and put it in front of him while Aerith showed him how to turn away from it.
You bet yer ball sack, he did!
Were is your evidence to back up that?
I pulled it out of my ass, where else?
pull things out of your ass of course
Yes, cuz thats what a debait is, posting facts.
Edit: And Tifa Rinoa, I doubt that the arguing will stop. Some people are to immature to not do stupid things.
As much as I hate to admit it, we’ve been constantly arguing over something stupid and fake. Not only are they fictional characters, but people get upset over them as well for absolutely no reasen. If someone says a rude comment to me, I cannot help but bite back hard, as is the human nature. But please, try to understand that everyone else has different point of views and they can be as opposite as salt and pepper. 😉 It’s funny that when Nomura says FF7 can be interpreted in many, many ways, there’s only 2 drasticaly different points of view that causes a bunch of wars and has for years. Clashing between the Cloti and CloAeris sides. It’s so stupid, I’m sick and tired of it. Oh, look at me, getting all squirly over a videogame. o_O Lols. The point is, let’s just live in peace with eachother and remember that each time we argue about this crap, we’re debating about videogame couples. What polygon gets with who? And yet, the competitiveness is still there. I hope we change that, and become more friendly towards one-another. However shallow I amy seem, I’m just trying to prove some points that are pretty obvious, not technicaly a loving relashionship between Cloud and Tifa, but atleast that they kept contact over the last 2 years. Although I still stand by all of what I said of them being the official couple of FF7.
Oh, and for any of you interested in oekaki drawings…http://www5.oekakibbs.com/bbs/clotilove/oekakibbs.cgi
here to help out
First off, it’s "Elementary", not "Elamentary", fool.
What kind of grade would this post have made, I assume?
And another thing that pisses me the fuck off is your pot smoking comment. I smoke pot every day of my life so fuck you, asshole. Incidentally, even though I smoke pot every day, I’ve managed to write this post with a correct spelling of the word elementary, whereas you have the writing skills equivalent to that of a sack of batteries.
You really show that you’ve learned some things, based on your posts.
Ela is short 4 ENGLISH LANGUAGE ART. The pot smoke’n thing was about school. If you smoke pot just 4 the pure pleasure then that’s your problem. If your smoke’n it 4 a your medication then i don’t have a problem with that. And by da way, no one’s perfect.
And seeing that SE is not even setting a release date yet and keep pushing it farther, let???s see how long these trailers last. What are you going to say if they show a new trailer without the old footage presented?
How about if someone interpreted the trailers differently than yours? What next? Really, if you think the world revolves around you because you boasted on how ???it???s official, because it???s from the trailers??? and you???re right while everyone is wrong, then that???s the feeling that most people are getting.
Funny, I never talked or stated anything about magazines. But, Bravo, Bravo! If you???re so smart to figure that magazines do speculations and assumptions, I guess you don???t want to admit that yours are too. Why don???t you save the boasting ???it???s the truth, idiots??? and ???it proves I???m right??? until after the movie comes out. Just like how magazines nitpick one scene and start creating assumptions, that???s the same way you???re doing it. You are no better than what neither movie critics nor magazines do.
Yes, anyone with a bit of perception and common sense will know how to wait until after the movie is released before boasting that they???re right or confirming their speculations. Anyone without any common sense or perception just like to do speculations and assumptions, thinking they are so right and forcing it to other people faces, just to find out that many times, it blows up in their own faces.
Oh, so these lines are suppose to prove your point? They are really just bit and pieces from the trailers and aren???t even a full length. But why don???t I examine it and tear it to pieces.
Tifa: ???He???s not here anymore.???
– And this is how it proves your point. This line is so vague, so one-sided; you haven???t even heard the other side of other people???s arguments. And since there???s no time lapse, this one little line can be broken up into many segments. Need I demonstrate? Cloud could have left for a job and she???s saying that, how about Cloud deciding to move out, how about Cloud leaving for quite a while???oh, yes, and the list can go on and on because that one little line is so vague that anyone can tear it apart to their liking.
Denzel: ???Where is Cloud????
– Again, such a vague, one sided line, that can be tear apart. What if he just woke up and asking? What if Cloud step out and he???s asking? What if Cloud was downstairs and he just woke up, since he???s sick, and asking?
Marlene: ???Did Cloud leave because he???s sick????
– Left who? Left them? Left her? Left the church? Midgar? The bar? It???s not even enough to confirm what she???s talking about. And if you think you???re so right, trying reading other people???s arguments of how it meant that she was talking about Cloud leaving the church. The scene is at the church. You people really amazed me with these speculations and assumptions.
Tifa: ???So this is why you left???
– Again, left where? Her? The Church? Midgar? Her bar? The children?
Cloud: ???Let???s go home Marlene.???
– Ah, yes, and home could be anywhere. The church. Midgar. Back to Barrett. The bar. With Aeris???s mom. And since it???s just bit and pieces, any argument can be brought up to where Cloud stays at.
Oh, and the pictures of Cloud on the wall???.sums up what? Funny, you did know you did a little speculation and assumption there as it wasn???t even proven yet that it was the orphans who drew it. How about Marlene? Or the children not affected by Geostigma who want to thank Cloud and Friends?
This doesn???t even automatically sums up anything as it goes from one scene to the next with such vague lines/scenes.
Why don???t you try watching other trailers instead of FF7 and you???ll notice that what you???re doing is no different than what movie critics and magazines do. They speculate and start making up assumptions from just those trailers, those one-sided lines and vague scenes. Oh yes, and its quite funny how it blows up in their faces when it doesn???t come out how you expect it.
Why do I need to try harder when I???m not the one boasting like a know-it-all and trying to shove it to people faces? I watch enough trailers in my lifetime to know not to expect anything and just wait till it comes out before passing judgment.
Oh yes, so these bit and pieces from the trailers prove that the orphans lived with Tifa, that Cloud left her because he doesn???t want to hurt her, etc. etc. Really, I can???t be proven wrong if they???re just bits and pieces from trailers that don???t confirm anyone???s speculations yet. Oh, I watch all the trailers, but I???m not stupid enough to start claiming it???s in favor of this and that, trying to prove that you are right while the others are wrong.
What is there to deny when all that have been shown are just trailers? And like all trailers, they make people speculate and start creating all of these nonsense assumptions up. That???s call stupidity and desperation, acting like you already saw the movie and claiming you know so much, when in fact, you know squat.
Really, so I can perceive that you skipped over my explanation of why Marlene wouldn???t be consider as an orphan. Only one has been shown, that???s Denzel. And you didn???t even provide any evidence or facts to back up why Marlene would be count as an orphan. I already went over it in my last argument, so try your best to counter it out. Oh yes, there are two children present but since you so want to claim that the orphans are living with Tifa, you came up with squat for this argument. It looks like you???re the one who doesn???t want to be proven wrong.
They???re as official as they can get. Trailers just expand your imagination, just like screen shots from magazines do. Your Cloti interpretation is just as unreliable as any magazine speculating and interpreting each scene or line.
Funny, my high thoughts are a lot more intellectual and thoughtful than so pathetic fan that shove it to other people faces, acting almighty like they saw the movie already, and is just a hypocrite who says one thing but do the other. Oh yes, that???s right. What was it about my high thoughts when you can???t even counter them back right and provide an unworthy argument against it?
Yes, and that is your little lame explanation of why Cloud can???t go to the Promise Land. Oh yes, and everyone else contradicted themselves in the game, that???s why Shinra is always after Aerith, because they???re normal humans who can???t go and yet still chased after her, so they can see it. And funny that an Elder Hargo doesn???t even exist in the game, so this little information is just BS from speculations and theories section. I guess it can be say that you also skipped EH last line of how that???s what he thought, meaning, he???s not so sure himself. Nice try on your high thoughts.
It???s from your mouth, not mine. And since you like to boast so much about it, like you already know the movie. Really, why ask the other party if he still loves Aerith with certainty and ask yourselves if he still loves Tifa in AC with certainty?
Exactly what I see. Many Cloti are in doubt themselves so you do this instead, to provoke the other side and make it like your side is right and there is no hope for their liking but instead for yours. The other party doesn???t even need to know this if the side presenting the question can???t even answer it.
Really, and that is your answer of why he hide in the church when I have heard at least so many assumptions for that. So Cloud hides there so he can be at peace???..LOL, really. That???s an assumption made already. How about all of these???..First time he met Aerith, taking care of the flowers, needed some time to himself, Tifa was a pain to him, it brings him back memories of Aerith, the final battle going to be there, there???s a secret to the church.???.Oh, and the list go on and on because of one vague scene.
Nice try on that but neither side nor assumption is right till the movie comes out.
lol well anyways like I said on the other thread about cloud not choosing and him being a lone heroin
Also what about that little scene where cloud and tifa camp out on that hill (when everyone leaves) Tifa: Words aren’t the only things that can express how you feel ::Cloud turns in a small shock as tifa is smiling::
Lol you can only guess what happened in that last one. What about at the Seventh Heaven? Tifa asks you how you slept and you can choose to say (these arent exact words) "Great because I slept next to you". Hmm thats odd huh? 😉
Theres also that pic of cloud and tifa with what appears to be their two kids (looks like its from advent children)
So just face the facts ppl 🙂
Also what about that little scene where cloud and tifa camp out on that hill (when everyone leaves) Tifa: Words aren’t the only things that can express how you feel ::Cloud turns in a small shock as tifa is smiling::
Lol you can only guess what happened in that last one. What about at the Seventh Heaven? Tifa asks you how you slept and you can choose to say (these arent exact words) "Great because I slept next to you". Hmm thats odd huh? 😉
Theres also that pic of cloud and tifa with what appears to be their two kids (looks like its from advent children)
So just face the facts ppl 🙂
lol their two kids that’s funny those are orphin kids not theirs well anyways Tifa was just asking those questions in the game rarely so well yeah whatever even when tifa did ask cloud would not say anything so your theory doesn’t prove a thing okay as for aeris in the movie cloud seems to get a backflash alot of her strange huh.
And how long are you going to keep this charade up? Funny, you probably can’t even answer that question. Oh, what was it that you say, every post need to be back up by evidence or statements. Nice try, litte girl. But your just full of it.
Yes, and if I’m wrong, who was the one boasting about me not making my comeback because I can’t back up my posts. Looks like the table turn around on you, not me.
OMG NO MY PRIDE. I LOZE AT THA IN-TAR-NET !!!!
Really, TMA? And what is your good points? That’s right. My posts are just nonsense because yours make more sense. "It’s so intelligent and thoughtful because I know I’m right and everyone are idiots who’s just in denial. Everyone posts needs to be back up. …blah blah blah…" Lucky me, your just full of it. Don’t boast about things you can’t do or how mature of a debater you are. And if you think I’m lying, reread your posts. It came straight from your mouth, not mine.
god is dead,
The answer to that question would be…NO. If TMA made such good points, she wouldn’t have to keep this charade up.
See, this is what I mean. Denying my evidence and brushing them off as interpretations, when clearly, they are not. Cloud and Tifa had been in contact for quite some time, that I’m sure. Why, I remembered some biased CloAeris saying that it was Vincent in that picture instead of Cloud. Haha, claiming it as fact. And yet, it was Cloud. Now the only excuse they can give is Cloud was forced to take the picture, or that he was un-happy. XD, please, grasping for straws they are, just like jinchuu.
Off the argumentive subject…
You have backed up your theorum superbly TMA.
Well done.
Well, since this is the CloTi thread, I shall post CloTi pics…
This is actually an Anti-CloTi sig, but it was funny enough…
Off the argumentive subject…
You have backed up your theorum superbly TMA.
Well done.
you must be blind or something…
Word or advice: If you don’t really care for this discussion, like you said, then why are you still here?
and weren’t you that said that personal attackas are lame?
i may be an idiot but i’d rather be an idiot than someone like you.
Let’s keep on the subject at hand, okay?
AND STOP FUCKING ARGUING.
Yes, Cloti rules.
wtf are you talking about?
I’m not very great with computers, otherwise I’d post some music files on here…
who?
Anyway,..
I think that Aerith would sacrifice herself too, because i think that Aerith and Cloud had feelings for each other but thats just my opinion and truthly i hate all the couples i really dont like them, but my fav female character is Yuffie shes cool, but i think Aerith would sacrifice herself too, im not saying that Tifa wouldnt but thats what i think, i personaly dont like the character Tifa, i dont like her atitude and her in general, and i dont see any connection for a couple to ever spring up with Tifa and Cloud, i like yaoi but thats my opinion i think LeonxCloud would be better than any couples that you guys ever list i think that the LeonxCloud are the best couple that could ever come together but i know that they dont meet in FF but they do meet each other in Kh but those are 2 different games, but again i bet that Aerith would sacrifice hersef for Cloud but i dont doubt that Tifa would sacrifice herself either i say they both would….but again thats just what i think.
I think the only reason she and Zack look content is because their both DEAD,and i dont think that Tifa and Cloud pair up better i think that they look horrible together, Aerith and Cloud look better than they do, and anyone who thinks that when Aerith dies is awesome i have one thing to say to you thats sick and wrong, if you think her dieing is cool or your glad it happened then thats just sick and you need to go get help. And i dont think that any Anti Tifa people would like what you said, everyones opinion should be respected I dont like adny of the pairing but i do like the character Aerith better than some others like Tifa and Rinoa,so i guess i had to say somthing and since you wanna say all the Anti Tifa people should shove it i think that all the people that like Tifa should do the same thing.
What its obvious that their gonnna be a couple, all i see is a dieing friendship, and WHAT DO YOU HAVE AGAINST AERITH??? What is so bad about her that makes all you tifa people hate her?? All i see when i look at Aerith is a kind, caring, loving person, whats so bad about that??What do you people only like people who fight and cause pain and suffering. And when did Aerith only like Cloud because he was like Zack, that doesnt make sense cause shes a better person then that….. Like i said you people must not want peace cause tifa as she is potrayed is a fighter and what do fighters cause, pain, blood and suffering, Aerith is potrayed as a loving, helpful.person. Please tell me why you people hate hre so much because all i see when i look at tifa is some blood sucking ugly animal that wants to kill and destroy everything.
I do not love Aerith, im not proclaming any love for her because i dont love her i think shes a good character, i do not love her and its not gonna be the most action ill have for the next 3 yrs of my life. I have better things to do than pick at people like you.
If you regisitered just to post about how good a character Aerith is, you might as well go ahead and leave right now. Before Prak eats you alive.
EDIT: And please don’t use colored fonts. It’s freaking annoying to read.
And not knowing who Prak is…. That’s one hell of a crime
I’d like to know who he is, too!
Who he REALLY is, I mean.
Who the person is inside of that…that…mean and nasty, intolerant JERK that I see all the time on here!!
That aside, I’d like to have a word with Miss Moron about her colored fonts. People have clearly stated that it makes your posts hard to read. the fact that you insist on continuing to use them shows that you don’t care about people reading what you have to say. You’re just here to say it for no other reason than to see yourself doing so. You can just as easily – and far less annoyingly – do that in the margins of a notebook. If you want to be a part of the community, conform to the community’s expectations. If not, fuck off.
And not knowing who Prak is…. That’s one hell of a crime
Man, I hope Prak remembers to sprinke his testicles with cinnamon, because everyone seems to want a good lickin’
C’mon, Prak’s a dickless fuck.
I’d say that you’re at least human!
And saying that along with saying you’re perfect is almost a contradiction…
…Unless you aren’t human, and like, are just some forum-post-AI program.
The only reason people seem too "retarded" to listen to your words is that you place insults inside of your posts. (And don’t tell me you don’t! Your posts leak and drip with the tone of "You’re inferior")
HMF! You’re…perfect…! So you should KNOW that people see insults before they see your post’s point.
Placing an insult in your post only makes it more difficult for your point to reach your reader. Don’t act like others are so ignorant when you can’t communicate your point efficiently yourself without being so misleading!
I stopped caring quite a while ago. I dropped the nice guy routine and stopped trying to preserve people’s worthless so-called feelings. The simple truth is that I’m better than most other people. I know that for an absolute fact. I learned it the hardest way possible despite spending years trying to tell myself it wasn’t so. And you know what, it’s made me rather resentful. I resent having to share a biology and common origin with people whom I can never see as my equals and who will never see me as anything greater than themselves. So no, I don’t care how people perceive me. The few that I find worthwhile are those who are already like-minded or who will respond in a manner that will earn my respect despite having a differing view
It seems this sort of thing should be discussed privately rather than here.
As a response to Prak’s post, though–
I’m sure that there was a time that you didn’t know as much as you do now. The people that you see as lower than you might just be in that phase, and maybe, if you shared your knowledge with them, you could help more up to the level where you are. I’m…not sure that there should be more people as resentful as you are, but I’m definitely sure that there should be more people as knowledgeable and experienced as you are.
God, I hate you so much.
You are completely pathetic, please fuck off, you arrogant fangirl.
and close this shit.
I hope that I’m not speaking out of line here, and apologise in advance if that seems the case, but hasn’t this all gone just a bit too far? Sure she’s acted pretty irritating, and needed to have a few things pointed out to her – but is there really any need to carry on flaming her like this? There’s been other people who have registered on here who’ve acted alot worse and deserved that type of treatment much more. Besides, it looks to me as if she’s already left.
I’m not denying that harsh treatment has it’s place with some of the people – hell alot of the people – who set out to make assholes out of themselves on here at times. But in this case, I don’t think a little bit of patience would have gone amiss. If someone had just taken the time out to explain to her where the rules were and what she was doing wrong, minus the insults, I’m sure that she would have listened.
This thread should be closed.
I stopped caring quite a while ago. I dropped the nice guy routine and stopped trying to preserve people’s worthless so-called feelings. The simple truth is that I’m better than most other people. I know that for an absolute fact. I learned it the hardest way possible despite spending years trying to tell myself it wasn’t so. And you know what, it’s made me rather resentful. I resent having to share a biology and common origin with people whom I can never see as my equals and who will never see me as anything greater than themselves. So no, I don’t care how people perceive me. The few that I find worthwhile are those who are already like-minded or who will respond in a manner that will earn my respect despite having a differing view
Oh god please. I’m not fishing for an argument or anything here. But for god’s sake, it is something to feel different from the mass, dwell on this for long enough, and you might end up concluding in some ways that different equals to better .
Some people call this a superiority complex.
Now Prak, just for once, why don’t you just stop pretending like you’re better than the rest and start proving it somehow.
So far, not even once have you showed me evidence that you’re better than most people.
Again, stop SAYING you’re better and start showing proof that you are.
A person can say whatever he wants about himself, but it is his actions that will demonstrate if he’s just a boastful narcissist or if his words speak the truth.
I hope that I’m not speaking out of line here, and apologise in advance if that seems the case, but hasn’t this all gone just a bit too far? Sure she’s acted pretty irritating, and needed to have a few things pointed out to her – but is there really any need to carry on flaming her like this? There’s been other people who have registered on here who’ve acted alot worse and deserved that type of treatment much more. Besides, it looks to me as if she’s already left.
I’m 14, and I’ve suffered a huge amount of abuse in the past.
I fail to see what that has to do with anything.
I never said that at all, as you’ll see if you read back over my previous posts.
I pointed out her age as felt that it should be born in mind, given that admittedly she was behaving in an immature way, but didn’t state that as being specifically why I felt the extent of the treatment she was getting wasn’t needed.
Had she deliberately set out to make a pain of herself, then I would have thought it fair enough. However, it’s obvious – to me at least – from her posts in here that she didn’t set out to annoy anyone and didn’t understand why other people were responding to her how they were. I’m not saying that there wasn’t a need to point out the reasons why, and be firm about it. I just can’t see why, in this particular case, why there was a need for all the insults.
That aside, I’d like to have a word with Miss Moron about her colored fonts. People have clearly stated that it makes your posts hard to read. the fact that you insist on continuing to use them shows that you don’t care about people reading what you have to say. You’re just here to say it for no other reason than to see yourself doing so. You can just as easily – and far less annoyingly – do that in the margins of a notebook. If you want to be a part of the community, conform to the community’s expectations. If not, fuck off.
I’ll let you know that no one in this world is perfect,NOBODY, If you think your perfect than your full of yourself. And i will stop using colored fonts cause its getting alittle annoying to me too. But on top of that i am not a moron i just like colored fonts but i will stop using them so i hope that makes everyone happy. Stop insulting my intelligence and leave me alone.
Anyways, this thread has totally rusted from the inside out.
I never set out to be apain i just wanted to well i guess post stuff.. In some ways i did deserve that mean stuff that was said but i never set out to be a pain. And i wish somebody would have explained the rules to me.. I did act immature and im sorry for that.But some of you people didnt have to be such jerks about it. It would have ended better… i think. I also dont like CloudxAerith, I just like Aerith the character, thats all nothing more or less. My favorite female character would have to be Yuffie, but i didnt like what people were saying about her so i wanted to try and i guess you could say change their out look on her, Like i said i never meant to be a pain or immature.I also agree that this should be closed. I wish that you guys could’ve been more patient. But oh well we learn from our mistakes….
Sure, Prak isn’t perfect. In fact, he is nothing but an obnoxious, resentful narcissist, but he pulls it off with such style it’s hard not to be impressed by it. As far as your behaviour around here goes, you have been quite a pain, but apologizing for it and improving some of the bad habits people have pointed out shows at least some level of intelligence. One more thing you should try to remember, though, is not to double post. There is an Edit button for that.
Anyway, even if you disapprove of my methods, the results are undeniable. This noob had brushed off more polite attempts to set her straight. My way left no room for debate, and thus had a more potent effect. Now she may actually become a tolerable member of the community.
Anyway, even if you disapprove of my methods, the results are undeniable. This noob had brushed off more polite attempts to set her straight. My way left no room for debate, and thus had a more potent effect. Now she may actually become a tolerable member of the community.
If you were referring to my post, I wasn’t hating on your methods. I do in fact (this is not ass kissing) find your posts both highly entertaining and most useful for warding off idiots. But perfect, you are not.
From the main page of the message board, if you click into any of the forums, you’ll see that the FF Shrine guidelines are at the top of the threads. However would also suggest having a look at some of the previous threads around the different forums before posting anywhere else, as though the guidelines are there to help give you an idea of how to approach posting, the best way to pick this up is by having a proper look around.
Confused… logics… intelligence… not… sufficient…
*splode*
EDIT: Haha, I just realised the thread title says ‘copuple’. That makes me laugh for some reason.
Kiss ass,but the perfect thing i`ll agree with nobodies perfect
Man, you speak the truth, Fair, and that’s the cold, hard truth.
hahaha really? You think so?
i do agree, she follows Cloud around like a pathetic fool, she lies, an dif anyone wants to say, that Aerith is dead so Cloud can’t love her anymore, i have one thing to say to you. Would you stop loving your parents if they died? If you do then you must have some kind of problem
I will pay you 2000 of whatever it is you use as currency if you analyze my psyche as well as you did a fictional videogame character. Man, who needs Jung when we have Insert-yet-another-name-that-starts-with-Seph?
Oh na d Prak i wouldnt say that your the easiest to work with either, asshole…
hahaha Pale Moon Goddess help me, best thing I read all day.
Back to Cloud`s and Tifa`s matters… I`d rather say that they are very close friends who love each other "a bit too friendly"… As you remember Cloud made a promise that once he becomes a "Strong SOLDIER" he will always come when Tifa`s in need of him… That is what he is always doing… He just saves her once she`s in trouble, they hold a strong relationship, which we all could be jealous of… If there would have been any true love affair it all would be definitely different… Remember Tidus & Yuna or Rinoa & Squall…. They showed their love clearly… If there has to be love, it is shown as love… I see this whole matter like that…
shut it prak nobody wants to hear it ,if you got nothing to say about the damn thread or about what other people post them don`t post dumbass she`s trying to have a good time get off her back asshole and go pick at yourself ”mister perfect” and no she doesn`t amuse me she only amuses you because you like to hurt people to make yourself feel better asshole.
agh!… so tiring.
Go, Fair! Trounce that asshole!
Go, Fair! Trounce that asshole!
thanks really that`s cool…praks an ass had to say that lol we like posting on old threads
It works on a case by case basis, but there’s no question about me being better than you idiots.
I believe that Tifa was created simply to attract a teenage audience to the game that couldn’t buy pornography.
They gave her big breats and made her attracted to an emo loser because they felt that this was going to be a pretty good way to get the emo losers out there to buy the game.
They made Aeris fall in love with Cloud so as not to offend people who though Tifa was degrading to women.
They killed off Aeris because they realized those people offended by Tifa were not their target audience so there was no need to have her in the game anymore.
Cloud is really in love Barret.
ps yes cloud loves barret
ps yes cloud loves barret
yes of course im smart O:]
Anyway as I heard Tifa really wasn`t meant to be in the game… But well she is there now… And one more thing I heard is that they made Tifa`s breasts so big to lower the number of polys and create a more detailed figure… It`s like the bigger breasts get, the lower amount of separate polygons you need…
You think your better but truthfully you are not all you are is a sad person who loves to pick at people and i feel sad for you cause your in your own world and Prak you turned your back on the world before the world ever turned its back on you.You are some one who really is just lost and by the way you got people to hate you because your a hateful person Prak.but all mt sadness for you is replaced by the anger by how you treat people when all they want is some kindness but the thing is if you ever think your perfect you dead wrong cause guess what your so fucking far from its funny and really i speak the truth and i`m not afraid to tell you that
Can I agree with you?
If I`m allowed to do it, than I agree, Prak sucks!
Thats as nice as I could be.
If you don’t have anything good to say, say nothing at all, THAT’S THE WAY THE SAYING GOES, so you could have been nicer by just not posting ;(
we won`t be ignored unless you don`t want to reply that`s up to you kiss ass but i doubt all you jackasses would stand for me saying that now huh hahaha :p
Thats as nice as I could be.
why don`t you take your own advice no one wants to hear you well at least i sure the hell don`t haha :p
you didn`t praks never a nice person just a sour no good moron ass who`s an ass to everyone right prak hahaha
try taking your own advice it could work or maybe anyone who`s like prak should take that advice it could do them some good you all made my day
Wait what? I was actually trying to defend you.
sorry i didn`t catch that i just kinda thought you would be with him i was speed reading and must have missed it again i`m sorry i really didn`t mean it
who says i`m getting banned i`m not going down without a fight and i`ll be the one laughing at you you no good sub human hahaha and well look who`s mocking who dumbass and well sure i`d like that crusade and if anyone is getting sick of it well two words…to bad…..there`s your two words i`ll bring it up as much as i please your not so great that i would really listen the only moron here is you prak and if anyone wants to disagree go ahead and your the foolish monkey hahahaha i`ll forget you to if that makes you feel any better and by the way fuck you prak hahahahahahahaha
He’s starting to shit all the FF threads and that’s fucking annoying.
Zackary Fair: Read well, idiot. If you have something PERSONAL with Prak, then go to him PERSONALLY VIA PRIVATE MESSAGING.
Otherwise a mod will take notice and will probably act accordingly.
You’re accusing Prak of doing what you are doing right now. Total disrespect.
And you can’t even use your own attacks… You take the same expressions that Prak used against you. That’s pretty pathetic.
It’s funny to see here, that when Prak chose his words to describe the nature of your worthless life, he chose them with an impressive accuracy.
He’s starting to shit all the FF threads and that’s fucking annoying.
Zackary Fair: Read well, idiot. If you have something PERSONAL with Prak, then go to him PERSONALLY VIA PRIVATE MESSAGING.
Otherwise a mod will take notice and will probably act accordingly.
You’re accusing Prak of doing what you are doing right now. Total disrespect.
And you can’t even use your own attacks… You take the same expressions that Prak used against you. That’s pretty pathetic.
It’s funny to see here, that when Prak chose his words to describe the nature of your worthless life, he chose them with an impressive accuracy.
Can someone ban your ass, and Fair is no idiot, this isnt personal, some people just dont like prak and were here to take care of that peice of shit and if you would like to go with him thats fine, we’ll be happy to crush your spirit,ego and self esteem…..And prak started this, not us, he has to go and be an asshole about everything, were jsut fighting back, were sick of it ans were fighting back end of story, its pathetic thatyour for standing up for that asshole, and Fair’s life is anything but worthless, prak acts like some 30+ on a video game forum site, now thats sad, hahahaha. and how would he know what Fair’s life is, he chose accusations about Fairs life which are all wrong, he was way off, now how is that impressive accuracy when he was wrong??
A.) I’ve been here for several years.
B.) I’m a mod who can easily request that they be banned, and have only not done so because they still amuse me.
I tell you, I am tempted to smother my own kid to prevent them from turning out like this.
Sorry…
I’m speechless here…
Lost in nostalgia.
Oh, those were good years.
Oh and getting rid of prak the prick, were doing the forum a favor, but i bet you could go along for the ride, there is just so many assholes out there these days.
Prak is worth a million of you, your just a bratty teenanger who doesn’t like to be told no, Prak is a valued member and you are not.
Can someone ban your ass, and Fair is no idiot, this isnt personal, some people just dont like prak and were here to take care of that peice of shit and if you would like to go with him thats fine, we’ll be happy to crush your spirit,ego and self esteem…..And prak started this, not us, he has to go and be an asshole about everything, were jsut fighting back, were sick of it ans were fighting back end of story, its pathetic thatyour for standing up for that asshole, and Fair’s life is anything but worthless, prak acts like some 30+ on a video game forum site, now thats sad, hahahaha. and how would he know what Fair’s life is, he chose accusations about Fairs life which are all wrong, he was way off, now how is that impressive accuracy when he was wrong??
Hynad is also worth much, much more than you and that Zack moron, you have some never asking for him to be banned, and again you show all the inteligence a bratty young girl would, fuck off for the 100th time.
who says i`m getting banned i`m not going down without a fight and i`ll be the one laughing at you you no good sub human hahaha and well look who`s mocking who dumbass and well sure i`d like that crusade and if anyone is getting sick of it well two words…to bad…..there`s your two words i`ll bring it up as much as i please your not so great that i would really listen the only moron here is you prak and if anyone wants to disagree go ahead and your the foolish monkey hahahaha i`ll forget you to if that makes you feel any better and by the way fuck you prak hahahahahahahaha
you are the worst member ever, GTFO.
Prak is worth a million of you, your just a bratty teenanger who doesn’t like to be told no, Prak is a valued member and you are not.
Hynad is also worth much, much more than you and that Zack moron, you have some never asking for him to be banned, and again you show all the inteligence a bratty young girl would, fuck off for the 100th time.
you are the worst member ever, GTFO.
two words..make me
Prak is worth a million of you, your just a bratty teenanger who doesn’t like to be told no, Prak is a valued member and you are not.
Hynad is also worth much, much more than you and that Zack moron, you have some never asking for him to be banned, and again you show all the inteligence a bratty young girl would, fuck off for the 100th time.
you are the worst member ever, GTFO.
you`ve got a lot to say so keep going keep it up hahaha and we are no bratty teenager look who`s talking prak`s a fuckin ass who i can`t believe you really like but you are all a bunch of asses so why should i be surprized
Sorry…
I’m speechless here…
Lost in nostalgia.
Oh, those were good years.
whatever
A.) I’ve been here for several years.
B.) I’m a mod who can easily request that they be banned, and have only not done so because they still amuse me.
like i care how long you`ve been here like i care if your a mod good luck and you amuse me to thinkin your so perfect but all you are is some 30+ guy on a game site hahaha
i not ignorant and well why are you like 30+ on a gaming site don`t you have your own life or what hahaha
well i`d rather be 13 than some 30+ person on a gaming site and life is fine and i have experienced life thanks for that
Games are meant to give you a fun time. Be it video, table, outdoor… A game is a game no matter the format.
You haven’t experienced life yet.
I am laughing very hard at Zack’s self destruction.
make me
Again, unbeleivable Ingnorance, also admins will see this soon enough, and I pray you get banned.
Again with the wrong accusations, I have friends wrong ,wrong dumbass with everything i never said you weren`t allowed to play games but usually people like 25 would be out doing something else instead of picking at people.
you to
i don`t cry thank you well that`s your choice
Man, that is so true.
Guys like you.
fair, u rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But as you type like a cunt you get treated like one.
So do us all a favour and dont post another message save yourself the barrage of insults you deserve.
And what grounds would you have me banned on may I ask. The fact I can spell?
Agree lol.
Also I bet that CloudCloudLOL is a cockpuppet of Faghary Fag
But as you type like a cunt you get treated like one.
So do us all a favour and dont post another message save yourself the barrage of insults you deserve.
Your just like everyone else on this forum, a total asshole, well that’s what I’m getting from your posts. He doesn’t deserve any of those insults. You calling people a cunt you sure seem that you need some insults thrown at you.
Nobody deserves to be called a cunt and Esphana, will you shut the fuck up and do something useful instead of finding people to toy with. That’s all you seem to be good at , your only talent.
What can I say? You’re mockery-magnets.
Until you do all these things for yourself, your opinion is worth as much as the little spot between one’s cheeks, also known as ass crack.
Furthermore, you’re out campaiging on an internet message board. Ooh look at Sephith, changing the world one Shriner at a time.
fair, u rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you expect anyone to take you seriously, quit the text talk and actually use proper English, noob.
And besides, I’m getting an impression of sockpuppetry again.
Of course, only what you say is right. Sieg heil, Sephith.
You should see everyone as an equal, not just the people that are as smart or act as much of an ass like you do. And how would you know how smart I am, i may act immature and dumb, but that doesn’t mean i am dumb. You act like an asshole, but does that mean that you are a complete asshole?
CUNT
Your just like everyone else on this forum, a total asshole, well that’s what I’m getting from your posts.
Silly Bitch, if you don’t like it…LEAVE
So noobs, are you going to follow this path? Or do you want to continue being mocked until you will either learn or leave?
PS : What was this topic about again?
A clock puppet then.
*Tick tock tick tock tick tock* logs in in one window with one username…
*Tick tock tick tock tick tock* logs in another window shortly after with another username…
But even if we were when is that your concern or bussiness? And you spelled Sephith wrong, it’s right there spell it right. I’m not a clock puppet either, call me what you want, but i know what I am. And a clock puppet I’m not.
Exactly. There’s no such thing. :p
Could you not think of anything else better to say? Or is that the best you have?
Could you not think of anything else better to say? Or is that the best you have?
I do have better things to say. It’s called humour. Also, the only word of insult you’ve used against others is "Asshole" as far as I know. Is it about time you change the word by now to something else?
If you do not have humour equipped, this place will definately not meet with your preferences here and will result as you being as the epicenter of humour instead.
Ahh, a butthurt sycophant then.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wuss
There. If you can understand what the word means, it will help you know why I call you a chicken wuss.
But seriously, I wonder why I am being such a nice guy here and provide you with that link. It’s not like you’re really worth it.
Ahh, a butthurt sycophant then.
Watch it Joan, with her rich english, I doubt she’ll know what a sycophant is.
Just FYI, smart people do what Seiferdon’t. 😉
Playing the victim like you do wont work here.
Just FYI, smart people do what Seiferdon’t. 😉
LMAO, couldn’t possibly hope that your periods were over at last eh?
Ahhh, yet another sock puppet of Zachary Fair. Or another one of the butthurt fantards who can’t take it when their bullshit is thrown back at their faces.
You’re probably not very smart then, by your own standards.
I know the world doesn’t revolve around me, i just really didn’t get what you were saying.
Both of you lovers take it to PM. This is getting really dry and boring. :>
PS : Hynad, just so you know. I am not singling you out there, so try to keep your victim complex to a minimum, ‘aight? I make fun of everyone. Besides, you gotta admit that chicken wuss is a lame insult. Try "fuckbrain", "troglodyte", "cumrag" etc or in this case "a yellow-bellied cunt".
It is kinda funny to see how you accuse me of something, and then in all your comments you’re found guilty of it all.
At least try to be consistent somewhere.
And just for the record, all of your comments are as boring, if not more, than this whole thread.
Like I said, victim complex. 😉
And I take myself as seriously as you do.
Now tell me, you’re a girl right?
Then how on earth is it possible that you don’t have any mirrors?
You certainly need one. Your self-projection is really starting to make yourself look like a complete dumbass. And especially in the Member2285 thread.
(Well I am anyway)
Hahaha, this is so out of place by this stage ;o
Sephith, you kind of remind me of me. This was my very first thread (Thread 22827). learn from it.
Silfurabbit: plus guides are cheating
Prak: AND ASKING HERE ISN"T?!?!
That made my day 😀
(Well I am anyway)
hmph, I did not cry and I don’t act like a baby. I am not leaving, and I probably won’t stay very quiet. And if you know that you are such cunts
( since that is what you want to be called) then why don’t you change and be a better poster and to stop insulting people every chance you get?
( since that is what you want to be called) then why don’t you change and be a better poster and to stop insulting people every chance you get?
Vulva.
Quoted for noob idiocy.
Also, I’m going to say the word "Vulva" too. Oops, I must be a very sick bastard now that I said that word. :p
Nobody deserves to be called a cunt and Esphana, will you shut the fuck up and do something useful instead of finding people to toy with. That’s all you seem to be good at , your only talent.
Aww I am not a generic asshole thank you. Neither is anyone else who has pulled you up on your cuntiness for that matter.
We are the ones with brain you are the generic assholes you just think cause one of you grows a pair and tries to correct us the rest of you can join and think you will actually inspire what? A feeling of guilt? we should just have an
Epiphany and see the error of our ways?
Haha yeah right when you guys stop being cunts we will stop telling you that your cunts and MAY even cut you some slack.
sephith jus ignore dose idoits dey dont no wut their talkin abot
Says the person whos vocabulary range is put to shame by trolls.
VULVA
VULVA
hahaha do you?
VULVA
VULVA
But I think it’s not too hard to realize that some people do mind being called morons and cunts, too. <<
HM! And I don’t think it’s much of a statement of being "unique" by saying you don’t mind being made fun of. You’re not the same as us! Alright! We get that. We’re different; we might not get along easily. But we’re here right now–and since we’re here, what’s important now is that we can find a way to communicate normally with each other. It doesn’t really do to be constantly adding insults in your posts every chance possible…. I know it’s just for kicks, but you’ve got to at least have the stomach to take things seriously once in a while, right?
To true
tifa and cloud stayed and slept below the ship. when they went back aboard barret cid and red were their. they talked a little then red blurted out soming then tifa said "oh no you guys were watching us" and goes and kneels down embarrased in a corner.
i think that tells you somthin about their relationship.
Hey, I’m with the people mocking you. You are an idiot, and you should be kicked off the forums. Possibly kicked off the internet. And stop posting four useless posts within five minutes. It may have made for hilarious reading in the beginning, but I think we have all concluded by now that you are an idiot and a waste of oxygen.
Yep.
be bored someplace else.
!!!
GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL
(tifa is a hooker)
One says that his posts are fine while it’s all broken up into beefy kibbled crap and contains hardly or no value. Fail.
And the other demands others to go to hell and stay there while all we are doing is showing correction and if they don’t like the way they are treated just because we call on the terrible errors they commit, then they should run off with their tails between their legs, if they pack enough intelligence to realise the reality.
So far, these users don’t yet know the basics on how to use forums effectively, whether it’s quadruple posting or telling others what to do by their own persistent mistakes been pointed out back at them.
Now that isn’t our fault.
Hey all you people mocking Zackery Fair, I have a couple words for you……GO TO FUCKING HELL AND STAY THERE, if you guys have nothing nice to fuckin say then do everyone a goddamn favor and just keep it to your goddamn self, no one gives a fuck so just keep your goddamn mouths shut, my god is that to much for you people to do?
On the contrary, people mocking those that are asking for it and won’t listen to the wisdom from others are favourable to many who will read the thread. When you said "I have a couple words for you…….GO TO FUCKING HELL AND STAY THERE", you failed the meaning of the word "couple". It actually means two.
don`t say that about her and well i`m not leaving you can think that like i care but i won`t let you talk bad about her she`s cool only you don`t give people chances.My posts are fine and i can post as may as i want in a minute
That’s one example of how noobs operate. Thanks for your co-operation.
Ah, the sound of a 13-year-old aspiring to fascism and double-standards.
Ok, "Sephith", if you give me one extremely good reason as to why it’s ok for Fair to shit up the forums with whatever crap he quotes from the mound of stale Chinese cookies he has saved up in his desk drawer, because you never know when clich???s might be needed, but it’s not ok for us to mock him endlessly for it, I will, and I swear to God on this, travel to wherever it is you "both" live and let you take turns at me with a baseball bat.
I know this is an internet forum (nice place for your moral crusade, by the way), and that civility is scarce, but I’ll go out on a limb and say you, "him" and myself all come from civilized countries that believe in freedom of speech. As such, we believe it’s a right available to everyone.
So, what’s your excuse for trying to violate our God-given rights?
Zackary, I still don`t know why, but I`M ON YOUR SIDE!
But even so… I`m pleading you to stop!
How long can you be fighting in this forum! It`s a FF forum! That`s why it`s so damn important to me… Just like every single user of it is! Let`s all just be friends… Is it that hard? We, fans of Final Fantasy, must unite instead of arguing!
btw, why is so many people now siding with me?
rofl
btw, why is so many people now siding with me?
Because they’re as stupid as you.
DON’T EVEN THINK ABOUT ASKING ANYONE IN YOUR FAMILY OR GOING ON A CACULATOR OR ANYTHING ELSE
Kid, you have no clue what you’re talking about and you’re only making a fool of yourself by pretending that you’re our equal. The fact of the matter is that you don’t know as much as most of us, and you’re less intelligent than many of us. I don’t fault you for that since you have no control over your inherent traits. What I do fault you for is being too fucking stubborn to realize that you’re arguing with people who are older and wiser than you, and who are going to be right in 99.999% of arguments you engage in with them.
And as for perfection, let me clue you in on something. It does exist. It isn’t universal and most people never find their own form of perfection, but it’s still there for you to find if you’re clever enough to figure it out.
…
Not that she is. But seeing how stubborn she’s willing to be, that wouldn’t surprise me if she tried to play that card.
EDIT: I am ignoring the worthless cunt who posted at the same time as me.
FUCK YOU PRAK
Sephith, Zachary Fair, Aerith63… Why exactly do you come here? What exactly do you wish to get out of this?
If it’s respect, what is it exactly you don’t understand when we tell you that you’re digging your own grave a little bit deeper with each of your new comments?
There is a lesson that you have to learn from all this, but you certainly aren’t the smartest bunch of students.
In the last couple of pages, you’ve been the first to come here to shout insults.
You think this is nice? I came here to try to make you understand that your actions led the people you call ass-holes and bastards to treat you as the mockery you’ve willingly turned yourself into.
I only ask a simple question.
What is your purpose on this Forum?
If you’re going to give your opinion, try to explain why you think so, or at least try to NOT put blind fanboyism in them. Blind fanboys hardly ever have an enlightened vision on the things they like. And mockery will almost always be the end-result in those cases, which is similar to yours.
What the fuck makes you think you are important enough for us to take your opinions seriously when all you’ve said so far is surrounded by so much shit you’d put New York’s sewer system to shame? "Grow up" is an overused phrase, usually spouted by wastes similar to you to convey the feeling they are older, and therefore, more mature than everone else, but fuck it, I’ll say it anyway: you need to do some growing up fast. I rarely get the chance to say it because I am as immature as a 6-year-old on Christmas morning but for Christ’s sake, Sephith, get that thumb out of your mouth, your head out of your ass and go outside.
FainaruFantaji: you’re on Fair’s side but you don’t know why? rofl, man, stop sucking your mom’s tits, go outside too, and take in some of the real world. Even if the air isn’t as fresh as it could be, it’ll do you good.
Aerith63: lol, just lol.
Yes yes, I know you’ll probably say something like "i dont care what you think, asshole" and probably will delusion yourselves in thinking that makes you cool, but it doesn’t. It’s cool when people who are cool say it. You’re not cool.
Now back to our scheduled programming, with newb-mocking galore.
What the fuck makes you think you are important enough for us to take your opinions seriously when all you’ve said so far is surrounded by so much shit you’d put New York’s sewer system to shame? "Grow up" is an overused phrase, usually spouted by wastes similar to you to convey the feeling they are older, and therefore, more mature than everone else, but fuck it, I’ll say it anyway: you need to do some growing up fast. I rarely get the chance to say it because I am as immature as a 6-year-old on Christmas morning but for Christ’s sake, Sephith, get that thumb out of your mouth, your head out of your ass and go outside.
FainaruFantaji: you’re on Fair’s side but you don’t know why? rofl, man, stop sucking your mom’s tits, go outside too, and take in some of the real world. Even if the air isn’t as fresh as it could be, it’ll do you good.
Aerith63: lol, just lol.
Yes yes, I know you’ll probably say something like "i dont care what you think, asshole" and probably will delusion yourselves in thinking that makes you cool, but it doesn’t. It’s cool when people who are cool say it. You’re not cool.
Now back to our scheduled programming, with newb-mocking galore.
Far all that is holy, THIS was just too good for my eyes.
That was just … sorry… I’m still laughing so hard, I can hardly type properly.
And yes, there are other factors that you need to know like reacting and returning flames which only results as a component of a loop for more criticism to come in back at you before you will react again from it.
Accept your correction and take it as a mean for you to learn and evolve.
Like we all did when we were your age.
Smartest kids in the world? Hardly. Overachievers are boring, but at this stage, the stuff I find between my toes could do a better job as members than you three put together.
Please, let`s just admit that no one is perfect… Everyone can make mistakes, smaller, or bigger… The wiser people should help the people who have lost their way, instead of telling them how stupid they are… It`s foolish, but nowadays, several posts containing some offense against a child [or a teenager] can drive it to atempt a suicide.
now i have no friends here anymore…
Aerith, Shut up, you are a fucktard of the highest degree, you have done nothing but post completely random shit, that the whole forum would rather do without, I know you’re only a kid, but you’re a very annoying one at that, now this is rich comming from me. as I started in a similiar fashion, but stop before it is too late, think before you post, and just back up for abit, or you may face the 6 month ban I faced a while ago, and another thing, don’t protest about abuse you receive soo goddamn much, sephith has already proved that gets you nowhere.
you guys are making me cry to much.
i don’t care if I’m annoying. SO BULLSHIT!
ARE YOU TRYING TO TURN MY WAY AROUND HERE? I WAS HERE TO FIND FRIENDS, YOU ASSHOLES! NO OTHER PERSON IN THE WORLD LOVES ME! THIS IS WHY I HAVE TO ACT LIKE THIS! ARGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
i’keebr d
all my posts are spam
Although I think the main reason is because you are 11, so it’s a tinsy but natural to act annoying, however, the truth has been laid down and you chose to ignore it, so the only other thing is to fuck off.
I’M SORRY FOR WHATEVER I JUST FUCKING DID!
NOW WHY THE HELL DIDNT THIS FORUM ADD RULES SENT TO YOUR INBOX WHEN YOU JUST REGISTER?!
I WOULDNT HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS FUCKING HASSLE
at the top of every part of the forum, also stop using capitals like a spoilt brat, seriously I am personally sorry you ever found this site.
Oh and don’t listen to Garamond.
Is it some kind of personal revange pattern that you’re giving Aerith63 right now? Or are you just being a stupid brat yourself? Aerith63 IS annoying right now. But so is this whole thread. Now that the most annoying kid is gone (Zackary Fair/Sephith) why don’t you try to calm down a bit, and give this little girl a chance?
She might end up being annoying no matter what, but the opposite is also possible. You constantly telling her to fuck off without any constructive advices is no better than the way she’s been acting towards the attacks of the members here (probably myself included). Just calm down and ignore her if you can’t settle down and give her a chance like the ones you received.
Aerith63: You are constantly blaming the others, yet you can’t listen to their advices when they explain to you why you are in this situation right now.
That’s clearly not the best approach to take if you want to learn.
Calm down, take a big breath, and explore the other parts of the forum as if this thread never existed. There’s nothing more you can add to this at this point.
Move on.
must have been one of those problems again.
btw, I wear hearing aids, lol!
BUT I STILL WILL HALF LISTEN TO GARAMOND IF YOU SHIT AROUND LIKE THAT AGAIN!
😛
Also TM: Don’t take it personal, I still like you! ^_-
Don’t listen to the Mooseter.
😛
Also TM: Don’t take it personal, I still like you! ^_-haha lol my comp says the words that u guys are saying. pretty cool eh?
It was clearly evident you expected Aerith63 to listen to your words…
…
Especially there (taken from one of your last 5 posts) :
Hynad, It is obvious that this little brat has no chance of becomming a better poster, Aerith just fuck off. I threw the very hard truth at you, and yet you continue to be a complete waste of skin.
Although I think the main reason is because you are 11, so it’s a tinsy but natural to act annoying, however, the truth has been laid down and you chose to ignore it, so the only other thing is to fuck off.
Thats is obviously the same thing that I said… right?
In any case, it seems like things are settled for now, so let’s just drop it.
(But you can still try to think about what I told you.)
In fact, I really don’t think I get annoyed by any poster. If a poster would constantly attack me or something to that degree, I may end up hating them, but that really hasn’t happened all too often.
Since I mainly spam all the time I realize that a lot of people probably get annoyed and some are probably afraid to say anything because they think they they’ll get some heat from the other members for it.
It seems that way, at least.
Personally I would grow pretty tired of my posts if I were somebody like Garamond.
Aerith63, just, you know, work a bit in sentence construction, don’t use caps unless it’s really called for and pretty much ignore anyone you don’t happen to like. There are loads of members you’ll probably hate around here, but there are also some you’ll like. It’s just a matter of finding them.
It’s just that I type to fast that’s it. And my comp keeps on turning into caps automatically.
Don’t make me laugh TM.
The things got better when I talked to her in a calmer, more gentle way.
Don’t try to fool yourself.
The things got better when I talked to her in a calmer, more gentle way.
Don’t try to fool yourself.
Looks like I had every reason to be.
As she has got herself banned, I knew it, I knew she was Sepith/fair thats probably what pissed me off, she was just as annoying, and we were all for giving her a chance :rolleyes:
Hahahahahaha.
i promice im real
Man, Fair was probably the most boring person in the entire universe, while bellying enough potential to put Dahmer, Gacy and Bundy to shame. I hope the kid gets he helps he need (i.e. lead enema) because otherwise we’ll be hearing about how he shot up a games store and killed the owner because he didn’t have any copies of FFVII. He didn’t even took that long to tell me he used to cut himself.
Seriously, don’t mourn his "passing".
That makes me wonder… if you have multiple personalities, are you allowed to have several accounts?
Stop making accounts.
Go ahead, get your proof.
Given that the U.S. is suspiciously the only country in the world to have documented cases of multiple-personality-disorder, no.
There teachings would be something like this:
1. Use text talk.
2. If you are losing in a debate or discussion, create an additional account and if anyone becomes suspicious that you have two accounts, say that a friend of yours has joined up.
3. Unite with other stereotypes who are being told off by administrators, moderators or/and regulars.
4. Outburst your emotions like you’ve never did before and make attempts to grab all the attention.
:p
There teachings would be something like this:
1. Use text talk.
2. If you are losing in a debate or discussion, create an additional account and if anyone becomes suspicious that you have two accounts, say that a friend of yours has joined up.
3. Unite with other stereotypes who are being told off by administrators, moderators or/and regulars.
4. Outburst your emotions like you’ve never did before and make attempts to grab all the attention.
:p
I lol’d.
ZACK AND SEPHITH WERE SAME! THEY’RE SOCKPUPPETS!
Anyone want sake?
CloudCloudLOL: Let`s fall inlove… Never… 😀
So, "Aerith67/sephith/fair/gothchick" were all the same person?
It`s stupid and horrible…
You gotta keep it beatin’
For all the hoppin’ cretins.
Cretin! Cretin!
I’m gonna go for a whirl with my cretin girl
My feet won’t stop
Doin’ the Cretin Hop.
Cretin! Cretin!
1-2-3-4
Cretins wanna hop some more
4-5-6-7
All good cretins go to heaven.
Also, major lol at Fantaji for the whole "oh I never liked Zack Fair! Who me, who supported him in shitting up the place with inane posting? Nope, not me. I never liked the guy. I can say that now that he’s gone." thing.
So, you either like him, becoming a shithead by association, or you’re just a dual-faced prick. What’s it gonna be, Fantaji?
Excuse me? to give you facts, who did Cloud likes when he was young? Why did he join SOLDIER for? Who almost contracted mako poison when she enter the Lifestream and reconstruct Cloud’s mind when he gone Double crazy?
As i know Aerith only likes Cloud because he reminds her of Zack
Unlike Tifa who’s been clearly in love with him…..
Oh yeah, you guys remember the time in Case of Tifa when Cloud said something about Everything will be alright because Tifa is with him now? dunno i somehow remember some thing like that, well better re-read the novel again *runs off*
As i know Aerith only likes Cloud because he reminds her of Zack
Unlike Tifa who’s been clearly in love with him…..
Oh yeah, you guys remember the time in Case of Tifa when Cloud said something about Everything will be alright because Tifa is with him now? dunno i somehow remember some thing like that, well better re-read the novel again *runs off*
A.) Double-check what you write to make sure you don’t look like the retard you are.
B.) Look at the dates of the LAST POST IN A THREAD before replying to something that likely the last poster won’t even care about, or read, because they probably aren’t even around anymore.
C.) You read way too much into a very sub-par story.
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR GH!!!!!!
@The Master
I feel your pain.