as i think they are such coool games
i really love luc the is just great.
any of the guys here has ever read the suikoden manga or played suikoden gaiden? i just heared of it but really sounds great anyone here knows when there�ll be a eu version of suikoden 3?
I’ve seen some screenshots and some footage of Suikoden IV (Thanks to X-Play and Cinematech. Which I thank Foxtel (Pay-TV) for.), which looks interesting, but I will reserve judgement, Until I can actually play it for myself.
http://www.suikosource.com/games/gs2/
1 was good, 2 was great, and I have’nt played 3 due to release problems but I’ll be sure to nab a copy from ebay!
Oh by the way Suikosource is a fantastic fansite with a decent forum, so be sure to join.
It’s excellent, but so far to me, it seems like it’s going to be very, very short. Oh well.
But Suikoden 4 looks terrible, imo.
i wanted to play suikoden 3 but there was never released a german version so i need a chip or something for my ps2 still i heared suikoden 3 isn�t as good as suikoden 4 or the others suikodne parts because there is no worldmap you can walk on as you want. still i have to play it because i love suikoden and because it�s a part of the story :O)
here suikoden 4 will come out soon and i�ve seen the trailer jet it looks nice to me and im too exited.
Oh well, eBay will come to my rescue sooner or later.
***SPOILER***
There are a few things about it which are bugging me… like only two of the 108 Stars of Destiny (From the first two Suikoden games) are in it, as well as the return of my favourite and beloved rune, the Soul Eater. But what’s up with the return of a character from the first Suikoden game, who died and was never a part of the original 108 Stars of Destiny (Who’s soul was absorbed by the Soul Eater initally… I think. It could’ve been that other one… Not McDohl’s father of course.), now being one of them?
Still, apart from those things as well as my own insanity affecting the way I play games, it’s not a bad game.
Only short…
… TOO DAMN SHORT!
"No chance," he replied quickly.
"How so?" I enquired, intrigued to the travesty of justice.
"Well, the main reason is that the voice acting is so closely coded into the graphical interface that doing the translations into French and German and all will be too much work for them to do. It literally meant they would need to re-code the whole game," he replied.
"Seems a bit dumb," I said to myself.
Of course, chipping PS2s is illegal now in the UK, and I wouldn’t know where to go to get it done anyways. Not really much of an engineer, am I.
To cut a long story short… I didn’t buy Suikoden IV. I’m still bitter. 1 and 2 keep me going though.
I rented Suikoden 4 last friday. I beat it yesterday. Now, this may contain some spoilers. I have been a suikoden fan for awhile now. Suikoden 1 was the first RPG I ever played. I have 2 and 3, and want to buy 4 and 1. I liked Suikoden 4, as I like the rest, but some things confuse me. Making Luc the main bad guy in Suikoden 3 surprised me. Through out half of the game, I was thinking "maybe they’ll run into the hero and then you get to play as him instead of all 3 of these losers?" But no. That’s not what happened. And it disssapointed me a bit. The whole ‘playing 3 characters’ thing was a downfall in my opinion. But the game was still fun and I enjoyed it. Suikoden 4 was like Suikoden 1, but it was lacking something that the others had. There weren’t too many places. It was mostly going back and forth between towns. The idea of having the ship as their base wasn’t a bad idea. It made it much easier. The traveling around stuff was what got on my nerves. It was so slow, and you got into battle every 2 seconds. The relationship between the characters and the hero weren’t defined as well as they were in the previous ones. And one more thing. The voices for half those characters was annoying. I couldn’t bare it. I think they should just stick to the silent reading way. My least favorite character was Snowe. He was horrible. I hated him. He kept feeling sorry for himself. He’s one of those whiney characters you want to put to death. But the thing is, with this game, you CAN’T lop off his head. You have to have him to complete your 108 stars of destiny. -.-.
I can understand how random battles are important, but come on, the random encounter rate in Suikoden IV is crazy. Almost immediately after finishing a encounter, you end in another one!
There are some other things about this game which bug me, but all in all, I was looking forward to something good…. and get something which was rather mediocre. Suikoden 1 was good, and Suikoden 2 was even better. Suikoden 3 never came to Australia, but from what I’ve heard from people who imported it, it’s pretty bad… I’m gonna get the manga version of it instead. And Suikoden Iv…
Well, let’s just hope that if Konami makes a Suikoden V (Which I hope they do), it’s better than 4.
I didnt feel anything for any of the characters and I didnt like the idea of seeing ocean for god knows how many hours, so I traded it on for Shadow Hearts Covenant!
I mean I was a level 30 and my HP was 345?! Daft! Random battles on the ship were every 45 seconds, yes I counted! It was a HUGE dissapointment cause I loved the others! I have 3, but need to chip my PS2 to play it!
But i heard luc was the main enemy in suikoden and that made me think.
Strange obviously leknaat was well linked in to it then as well.
But what’s up with the return of a character from the first Suikoden game, who died and was never a part of the original 108 Stars of Destiny (Who’s soul was absorbed by the Soul Eater initally… I think. It could’ve been that other one… Not McDohl’s father of course.), now being one of them?
Simple. This game takes place before Suikoden 1.
Yeah, it takes place 150 years before Suikoden 1 (At least according to Ted’s ending).
Really? I thought Jowy was one of the best characters in the Suikoden series.
But add me on the Suikoden4 dissapointment bandwagon. I thought the battles were simple enough, but they were too many of them on the sea. The story sucked (it was’nt even a real war) and was the weakest out of the 4 installments, 98% of the characters sucked (except for Kika,Jeane,Viki, and Ted),towns were too small and lame. cutscenes took to much time to load and in usually ended up with just one person saying a snetence and it would load again. And finally the damn world map pissed me off, that was the first time I actually wished for a point-and click map.
>:O
I really never liked him. He was a lame character in battle and he also has an annoying personality.
I was actually glad when he ran away and betrayed me.
I didnt even care that I lost the black sword rune
I liked Suikoden 3 alot (the intro anime kicked ass!), but I do agree that the manga told the story aroun Suiko3 much better.
Some people like it, but I don’t. but that’s just the ramblings of a demented, insane person… namely ME!
Time to say good bye to my copy of suikoden 4 then
I haven’t seen such an abortion of a battle system in a long time. I’m not sure exactly why it’s so bad, since in essence it’s fairly similar to 2’s (the only other outing of the series I have had the chance to play, thus far). They do seem to have made it just about the dullest thing ever, though. Enemies beaten with too much ease, you level up far too often, it moves at a glacial pace, your attacks are boring, and the encounter rate is a bit extreme. some of that doesn’t seem much different from 2, either, but all in all, the battles are just dull.
The ship’s controls are poorly implemented, too. There’s no sense of any bond between the main character and his closest allies, either. The more incidental characters are fairly interesting, and the plot is compelling. In fact, the plot is the only reason I am playing, at this point.
It feels rushed.