Why now?
Because its a qeustion that needs answeres
Because its a qeustion that needs answeres
1.Try to spell your dumbass reasons right.
2. Why do you want an answer that’s already painfully clear?
They’re stealing souls that would one day be used again, and that’s indeed morally wrong. Question answered?
That should do. Idiot.
What the hell’s wrong if someone wanted to know about Shinra. If you don’t like it or don’t want to answer it then, don’t post stupid shit about how much you don’t like it. Unless if it’s something along the lines anything rkrider or hal0master wrote.
Don’t worry Vincent, their just dicks to anyone who just started off or likes Final Fantasy VII. But just to avoid future conflict, explain everything you write and spell it right so they don’t have anything on you.
They deluded themselves.
interesting question, Shinra are obviously fully aware of the harm they are doing to the planet and the further damage behind using mako. But at the same time its like real life, power company’s and governments know the damage they are doing, but they only get away with it because WE keep using there energy.
What i’m saying is Shinra can only destroy the planet as far as the consumers let them. Its the dam populations fault more than anyone.
And to everyone being negative leave it out. whats the point in a forum if the only threads answered properly are those only a handful of people happen to agree with? Have some respect dudes.
If you want a forum where everyone is nice to each other, I suggest EoFF.
I wasn’t being an ass =\
i already gotta name on that loinharte
I wasn’t being an ass
i know i got kinda pissed
There too nice. Id kill the bastards if I posted there much.
The New York of FF forums? So they think they’re clever ’cause they know how to curse in more than one language? :p
Their not aloud to swear. This is a positive newyork where fanboys can run free without being insulted
FFShrine ftw!
FFS doesn’t get anything accomplished but it’s just entertaining
Like hand over the Jenova cells?
Of course we did get to see the cool side of the turks!
Of course we did get to see the cool side of the turks!
rufus didnt hand the cells over… get it right!!! and shinra was good in the movie because they were trying to repay the planet for what they had done… eh thats what he said but i dont eally think he meant it >_<
Rufus could have hidden them at any point, but instead chose to keep them on his person and reveal them right in front of Kadaj. He may not have handed them over but he certainly gave them a dam good easily avoidable oppertunity to get them.
Also if i remember just moments before that, or in a previous conversation he refers to all the havoc going on and Kadaj’s gangs plan as ‘the most fun hes had in a while’ or words to that effect. He seemed pleased Kadaj was being a gargantuan cock head. So i dont think he personally was trying to sort out anything! I think the Turks were tho, the jenova cells being kept on his person was all down to him personally.
just mho! =)
Of course we did get to see the cool side of the turks!
No, they didnt hand over the cells, Rufus threw them over the edge and wasn’t aiming for Kadaj to catch them 😛
And as i just fucking said he had any oppertunity to hide them miles underground or burn them or secure them, and he decided to show them right in front of Kadaj and his gang when he has only 2 turks for protection. That coupled with the fact he tells Kadaj this is the most fun hes had in ages shows he is just playing games and not acting in the best interest of the planet. He even fucking smiles when hes falling from the building and shoots the box open, as he said he was enjoying it! Yeah he was really upset that he just jeopardised the whole god damned planet. He was obviously just making the cells game for anyone, Clouds team or Kadaj’s.
Fucker if you wanna disagree with me good, lets talk, but for fucks sake dont use an argument ive just ripped in a previous post.
This is a simle discusion as to whether Rufus/Shinra were trying to help or not.
So what is it about rufus’s dialogue that is ‘obviously flawed on a fundamental level’…..? im very curious for your input
As I explained before, character motivation must always be understood. It’s a general rule of writing. Look anywhere, even in FFVII, and you can always tell what the motives are for a character to perform a given action. An action taken without a motive for it is bad writing. To not give the motive if one exists is bad writing because it removes the context from a character’s actions.
To see how to properly handle chaaracter motivations, I’d point you to another work of popular fantasy: the Harry Potter series. Snape’s motives are still not known for sure, but hints about them have been dropped. They often conflict each other, but it gives people fuel for arguments over the character’s nature. In the end, the character’s true nature and motives will be revealed, however, as they should be. (Please do not contest this particular analogy, as this is not a Harry Potter discussion. It is merely an analogy to illustrate a point.)
Also, your comment about everything not being spelled out to create discussion is easily dispelled by pointing out the existence of the Ultimania guides, which explain pretty much every detail of the more ambiguous games. That clearly shows that they weren’t made to be ambiguous at all.
And what is not mentioned Prof. Prak? As far as i can tell i have only reffered to actual events in the film and parts of Rufus’s dialogue, and what my natural conclusion to that is!
So…what isnt mentioned Prak?
As I explained before, character motivation must always be understood. It’s a general rule of writing. Look anywhere, even in FFVII, and you can always tell what the motives are for a character to perform a given action. An action taken without a motive for it is bad writing. To not give the motive if one exists is bad writing because it removes the context from a character’s actions.
To see how to properly handle chaaracter motivations, I’d point you to another work of popular fantasy: the Harry Potter series. Snape’s motives are still not known for sure, but hints about them have been dropped. They often conflict each other, but it gives people fuel for arguments over the character’s nature. In the end, the character’s true nature and motives will be revealed, however, as they should be. (Please do not contest this particular analogy, as this is not a Harry Potter discussion. It is merely an analogy to illustrate a point.)
Also, your comment about everything not being spelled out to create discussion is easily dispelled by pointing out the existence of the Ultimania guides, which explain pretty much every detail of the more ambiguous games. That clearly shows that they weren’t made to be ambiguous at all.
Prak, no-one gives a shit about wt you say. You’re not even a Final Fantasy fan at all and just snoop these forums to look for trouble.
Sorry, Awesome_Bryan! I didn’t mean to be gobby or nuthink m8. You have a point – Rufus could’ve destroyed those Jenova Cells instead of keeping them which offered trouble. But even if he was smiling, you could describe Rufus as an ‘anti-hero’. Oh well, let’s just say you’re right, ’cause I’m always wrong lol
You also fail for your atrocious spelling. Nuthink? It’s the same number of letters as nothing, so it’s not even easier to type. The only possible reason for you to do that is because you somehow think it’s cool. And the only reason for that is that you are a worthless punk who rejects grammar just because you want to look like a moron in order to be accepted by other morons who are just as pretentious in their idiocy.
Haha, nice Prak. That had me laughing for like 5 minutes.
You also fail for your atrocious spelling. Nuthink? It’s the same number of letters as nothing, so it’s not even easier to type. The only possible reason for you to do that is because you somehow think it’s cool. And the only reason for that is that you are a worthless punk who rejects grammar just because you want to look like a moron in order to be accepted by other morons who are just as pretentious in their idiocy.
Prak, no-one gives a fuck about you ’cause you’re never nice to people and the only reason you come on these forums is to be rude to people. Tell me, Prak, please, ’cause it’s been wrestling my mind – why don’t you go cause trouble in another forum that is actually based on a subject that you LIKE and leave us fanboys in peace? I apologised for my rudeness to Awesome_Bryan, but to mean spiteful gits like you, Prak, you don’t deserve it because you’re the bloody same. Get a life, you stupid prick and get some REAL friends. By the looks of your avatar, you’re a mouse, so how about you crawl back in your fucking hole and leave us alone?
Speak for yourself douchebag.
Sorry, Awesome_Bryan! I didn’t mean to be gobby or nuthink m8. You have a point – Rufus could’ve destroyed those Jenova Cells instead of keeping them which offered trouble. But even if he was smiling, you could describe Rufus as an ‘anti-hero’. Oh well, let’s just say you’re right, ’cause I’m always wrong lol
Nah sorry mate, i was being a moody cunt, bad day at work. I meant to apolagise, if were not here to listen to eachovers opinions what are we here for!=)
Because even during the ff7 game they try to destroy meteor by launching Cid’s rocket at it.
And they use the ‘sister ray’ to… either kill weapon or kill sephiroth, i forget which.
And remember avalanche bomb reactors, so are they good? are Shinra bad?
you will never get a definite conclusion to that answer.
I meant FF fanboys you dumass. Stop sticking up for that pricka nd get a life./
To avoid spam, yes Shinra are evil, anyone who crushes an entire city has something wrong with them.
Had to be said.
I meant FF fanboys you dumass. Stop sticking up for that pricka nd get a life./
Lets send him some hatemail!
Lets send him some hatemail!
Me?
To avoid spam, yes Shinra are evil, anyone who crushes an entire city has something wrong with them.
I’ve seen Prak pick on loads of people. Once, there was an entire topic written by someone whom had been recently picked on by Prak! I’ve been picked on by Prak loads of time on my old account, Astrin24. Someone who’s mean deserves to have someone be mean back to them.
How sad is it that Prak’s always insulting people on forums that are based on things he doesn’t like? He stopped and counted the letters on ‘nuthink’ for god’s sake. So sad. Just a little boy, being funny cos his mommy forgot his dummy.
stop haten
Please continue the ‘haten’.
Please continue the ‘haten’.
fuckit whos the first round gonna be