FFAC, what could have been made better?

Ok, Final Fantasy Advent Children, in my oppinion, was one of the best CGI movies I have ever seen. Almost everything about Final Fantasy VII was incorporated into it, but I still feel some things could have been made better.

Any suggestions?

Kid, I don’t have anything against your personal enjoyment upon the movie, but when you did say the "was one of the best CGI movies I have ever seen" comment, you have sold your soul to the devil himself.

I suggest that the movie gets burnt to a crisp. Period.

If I had a little bit of caring for the movie in which I don’t give a crap in truth, I do think yuffie should never stepped in, Cloud should be less of an emo as someone pointed out. Many other things need suggesting to that movie. But as I said before, I don’t realy give a shit about the film, personally.

"The Spirits Within" had more detailed CGI and was produced earlier.

I liked it enough. Definitely could’ve been better due to the amount of time it took before they released. Haven’t seen Spirits Within so I can’t compare.

My suggestion is that you post AC threads in the AC forum. As for the "film," there’s too many things wrong with it to fix it, to be perfectly honest.

I personally liked AC better than SW bcos it felt more ff than SW did, it wasnt perfect, but it was good

Way to ignore the thread’s question!

Ok, Final Fantasy Advent Children, in my oppinion, was one of the best CGI movies I have ever seen. Almost everything about Final Fantasy VII was incorporated into it, but I still feel some things could have been made better.

Any suggestions?

i’ll go out on a limb here and say EVERYTHING!!!

lol guess it’s not all that popular…however this isn’t a "Bag out FFAC" thread so unless you have something CONSTRUCTIVE to say, in stead of just saying how shit you thought it was, then post on a different thread!

Why bother with constructive criticism of AC when Squeenix clearly isn’t going to "fix it?" They don’t need to "fix it," as they have legions of raving fanboys who will clearly shell out too much money for anything with "Final Fantasy" stamped on it, especially if there’s a "VII" after the Final Fantasy.

Ok, Final Fantasy Advent Children, in my oppinion, was one of the best CGI movies I have ever seen.

Then, frankly, I don’t think you’ve seen many CGI movies.

STOP FUCKING BAGGING IT OUT! I KNOW THEY’RE NOT GOING TO FUCKING FIX IT THAT DOESN’T MEAN WE CAN’T DISCUSS IT! STOP FUCKING BAGGING IT OUT YOU STUPID CUNTS READ THE FUCKING TITLE! IT IS "FFAC, WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN MADE BETTER?" NOT "FFAC, HOW SHIT WAS IT?" SO FUCK OFF AND STOP BAGGING OUT MY FUCKING OPINIONS!

OH WOW. CAPITAL LETTERS.

Yes, I am a cunt and proud of it, so thank you for complimenting. And gosh, no need to get so emotional about it. Anyways, you should of started this thread in the "Advent Children and General Compilation" forum, and now you say this?

"FFAC, WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN MADE BETTER?" NOT "FFAC, HOW SHIT WAS IT?"

You can’t have it both ways, my lad.

Okay, I’ll post on topic. It could have been made better if they MADE IT NOT SHIT.

Okay, I’ll post on topic. It could have been made better if they MADE IT NOT SHIT.

ROFL

Ok, Final Fantasy Advent Children, in my oppinion, was one of the best CGI movies I have ever seen. Almost everything about Final Fantasy VII was incorporated into it, but I still feel some things could have been made better.

Any suggestions?

you REALLY should get off SquareEnix’s cock and see some better CGI movies…i.e. anything made by Pixar
even the short films they made were far more entertaining than AC

SO FUCK OFF AND STOP BAGGING OUT MY FUCKING OPINIONS!

it’s also our opinion to say that the movie was complete bullshit and Square should just stop with milking FFVII

Since we’re on topic, I feel that these could be improved on the movie:
– Standalone storyline so as to not confuse those who hasn’t played the game(sic).
– Scenes that make sense
– Less emo and more ass kicking.
– Needs hot lesbian sex.
– More believeable fights that are easier to follow.

Mm, I agree with the first thing and last thing Joan-Michele said….
The storyline should have had more development put into it….
And the last thing–
One time I was watching, I was trying to just follow Cloud’s choreography in all the fights….
But then I realized that the camera was moving around soooo much that even though they made wonderful animation and choreography for the fight scenes, the movement of the camera kind of makes it too difficult to see sometimes….

The music was wonderful, though…=] That’s one of the things I really enjoyed….

Mm, I agree with the first thing and last thing Joan-Michele said….
The storyline should have had more development put into it….
And the last thing–
One time I was watching, I was trying to just follow Cloud’s choreography in all the fights….
But then I realized that the camera was moving around soooo much that even though they made wonderful animation and choreography for the fight scenes, the movement of the camera kind of makes it too difficult to see sometimes….

The music was wonderful, though…=] That’s one of the things I really enjoyed….

the movement of the camera during those scenes led me to think that they used it to hide their lack of animation talent…

You’re right about that, actually. I sat down and traced some of the movements during the scenes that were worst about rapid camera movements. In each case, the characters moved in more or less straight lines and made extremely simplistic movements. So yes, it was covering up cheap animation.

Pixar Animation Studios > SquareEnix ?

Pixar Animation Studios > SquareEnix ?

Very much so. I’m talking head, shoulders, elbows, and waist above Squeenix’s animation studio.

Putting Square-Enix at the perfect level to suck Pixar’s cock.

Someone had to make that joke.

Someone had to make that joke.

I knew you’d pick up on that. 😀

That joke was a bit low.
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Like, literally…

But I see what you guys mean…>< When I saw all the camera movement in the middle of the fight scenes, I had trouble following the movements….but I thought the movie had rather good animation, so I thought like, "?! Why are you moving the camera so much? What are you trying to hide…? I don’t see why you’d have to hide anything…." >> But now that Prak mentioned it, and I looked at it again more closely, and noticed a bit of what he pointed out.

Hm.
Even if they were moving in straight lines, I’d rather see everything together…a fight consists of both push and pull, focus, and determination….and that focus sometimes goes in a straight line. I want to see all parts of the fight….not just the flashiness or the adrenaline….

You know, there are basically two types of people that action movies can be made for.

Intelligent moviegoers – These are the people that appreciate technical merit and want to see action with a bit of brains behind it. For a good recent example, look at Serenity.

Beavis and Butthead – Hello majority of AC’s fanbase! These are the people whose brains are easily dazzled by flashing lights and motion. What’s actually happening is unimportant to these people. All they care about is being able to sit there like a vegetable and occasionally say "huh huh he jumped really high. that’s cool." For another recent example of a shit action film that only idiots find merit in, see Stealth.

XD! Lol!!
Hahahahah

I thought that was kind of funny….
<< Though I don’t mean to be mean to the "Beavis and Butthead" type people….

I take martial arts, so by habit I just tend to want to see the direction and form of choreography in action movies….
In truth, though some scenes in AC were beautiful, and some of the action sequences were pretty nice…a lot of the fighting seemed almost frivolous–…every movement should have been with determination, and every attack with the force of their entire being poured into it….
But they seemed so casual in their fighting…and maybe that makes it seem like they’re really badass and like, all this stuff is normal for them….but that doesn’t bring "soul" into the action scenes….>>

I mean like, even the battle animations in FF7’s game had more soul in them…
The way Cloud moves during Omnislash in the game is more in the spirit of "fight" than the way he did Omnislash in the movie, if you know what I mean…>>

FFAC, what could have been made better?
How about the entire movie? Yes, the movie was eye candy, but the movie as a whole is pure crap. The story makes me shudder, and the short-lived appearances by various of characters makes me cry. Let’s face it. Why do people like or even watch it? Because it’s about Final Fantasy VII.

Any suggestions?

Everything?

Monsters Inc. > FFAC

Any suggestions?

Where do I start?

Monsters Inc. > FFAC

word

but if SquareEnix really wanted to start their domination in 3D animation, they’d have to get some of Pixar’s team…
like that’s gonna happen…what blowhard would abandon a company that creates completely original stories for a conglomeration of knuckleheads trying to milk as much money out of ONE story for all its worth?

bottom line…Pixar doesn’t need the "fancy graphics" to make people see their films, they have the know-how and intuition to put elements in their work to create patrons to their productions that lead to long-time sales over a wide variety of demographics…unlike SquareEnix and their mindless followers…who try to beat a dead horse and tell everyone that they’re being "original and giving new life to a classic"

I have been brain-washed.
This movie sucks.

In my opinion, the movie could be longer. The storyline is longer, and I believe the movie was too short.

I know this movie has no relation, but Shneiders List was around 4 hours and it was complex, so that means Final Fantasy Advent Children can be long too.

Just my opinion.

Bla bla goes in FFAC forums.

Graphics and action are the only things FF VII AC doesn’t need to improve on.

*EDIT*

Actually scratch that. I think some of the action could have been more original and less… Matrix. I must give FF AC props for doing a better job at mimicking the Matrix action then some shitty action movies try to do.

In my opinion, the movie could be longer. The storyline is longer, and I believe the movie was too short.

I know this movie has no relation, but Shneiders List was around 4 hours and it was complex, so that means Final Fantasy Advent Children can be long too.

Just my opinion.

things can always be made longer and more "complex" my piling bullshit on top of bullshit…just check out John Kerry’s little speeches at universities and his recent stab at our troops

also take into account that length and complexity are completely independent of one another and are not always present at the same time in films

take a look at Titanic…long movie, linear plot
look at the Korean movie Face…the movie was a little over an hour long and was miles more complex than AC…they had no plot holes and used everything that they gave their audience to tie things in at the end

Personally, I also beleive that the movie should have been longer. They could have easily gotten away with twice the length. In the vein of complexity, it could have also used more of this as well.

More movies should be done in AC’s graphic style, though–both here and overseas. This would solve the problem of finding the right look for the actors (e.g., Metroid).

*sigh* I wish they’d make that new Dragonlance movie in a near-AC style. >_>

Personally, I also beleive that the movie should have been longer. They could have easily gotten away with twice the length. In the vein of complexity, it could have also used more of this as well.

More movies should be done in AC’s graphic style, though–both here and overseas. This would solve the problem of finding the right look for the actors (e.g., Metroid).

*sigh* I wish they’d make that new Dragonlance movie in a near-AC style. >_>

you can make things look pretty when they’re not moving much…but if you look closely during the "action" scenes…the characters pretty much move, more or less, in straight lines

it think i’ve said this before…
Pixar CG Animation/Rendering > Square CG Animation/Rendering

it think i’ve said this before…
Pixar CG Animation/Rendering > Square CG Animation/Rendering

agreed

man, AC kicks SW butt. When I watched SW, I had no idea what in the world was going on. Anyway, AC had my fav character^^
I do wish they would lengthen the fight scenes though…they are some of the best CGI movies I have seen…
and the movie should have been longer, its storyline gives it the potential to be far longer

Something like doing this to it (http://youtube.com/watch?v=1yCm7bgHoyU).