Joey
11-27-2006, 12:41 AM
This is a little idea I had because I noticed the constant new threads of basic questions.
So I wanted to make a thread where you post your questions here and the other members can reply instead of creating a new thread.
But please, only post questions that relate to the gameplay. Such as, where to find items/weapons/hunts/espers.
Ex.
-"Where can I find the esper Belias?"
Then the other members, and myself can reply with the answers.
-"The Tomb of Raithwall"
Please DO NOT post questions relating the storyline of the game.
Do not ask about the game’s ending/cutscene/dialouge/charcter’s actions.
Hopefully, we can make this work and keep it resourceful for people that need to know an answer.
One Who Suffers
12-01-2006, 01:36 AM
I have the first two main espers in the game just to let you know where I’m at and I’d like to know if there are any secret ones that I am able to get as of now.
ninjathief
12-01-2006, 03:22 PM
Yeah…if you have been completing any of the hunts up until now then you should be able to find them
One Who Suffers
12-01-2006, 10:39 PM
I meant could you tell me where JUST ONE is
soul ring
12-01-2006, 10:54 PM
what do i get if i collect lots of chops? is there some kind of uberprize?
Olde
12-02-2006, 01:14 AM
I meant could you tell me where JUST ONE is
One that you can get is in the Zeritan Caverns (in a southern area in the Dalmasca Westersand.) Make sure your characters are at least 33-34. There’s no prerequisite for the fight to occur, either.
One Who Suffers
12-02-2006, 02:47 AM
I’ve been waiting for a rainy day to head into Zeritan. Just so happens that it poored down rain here in northern Ohio ๐
One Who Suffers
12-04-2006, 01:24 AM
Sorry fot the DP but I was wondering how much does much damage "Protect" protects you from.
Joey
12-04-2006, 03:41 AM
It is a certain percentage based off of level and magick power.
The_Great
12-04-2006, 05:40 PM
what do i get if i collect lots of chops? is there some kind of uberprize?
If you collect 28 of them (i think its 28) you get a sandalwood chop.
Synthia
12-04-2006, 07:59 PM
If you collect 28 of them (i think its 28) you get a sandalwood chop.
You didn’t really answer his question.
Once you get a sandalwood chop, you can get into the last section of Arcadia, where the upper class live. I forget what it’s called. Once there, you can participiate in a couple of quests you couldn’t otherwise. There’s a guy there that will pay you (give you items maybe?) for doing Rare Mark hunting (not just regular mark hunts like you do for your clan, I mean the quest you get from the Bangaa in the Phon Coast camp where you hunt RARE monsters).
Also, one of the chocobos from the Chocobo gathering quest is there. I haven’t finished either quest, but that’s all I’ve found to do with my Sandalwood chop. There aren’t any secret shops or anything like I’d hoped there would be.
joclyn
12-04-2006, 09:00 PM
Protect is 25% physical damage reduction flat.
The_Great
12-05-2006, 01:13 AM
You didn’t really answer his question.
Once you get a sandalwood chop, you can get into the last section of Arcadia, where the upper class live. I forget what it’s called. Once there, you can participiate in a couple of quests you couldn’t otherwise. There’s a guy there that will pay you (give you items maybe?) for doing Rare Mark hunting (not just regular mark hunts like you do for your clan, I mean the quest you get from the Bangaa in the Phon Coast camp where you hunt RARE monsters).
Also, one of the chocobos from the Chocobo gathering quest is there. I haven’t finished either quest, but that’s all I’ve found to do with my Sandalwood chop. There aren’t any secret shops or anything like I’d hoped there would be.
He never asked what it did, he just asked what you would get, so yes, i did answer his question. ๐
Didn’t go in depth because I havent bothered to see what extra stuff you can get with it.
Agent0042
12-05-2006, 04:49 AM
Does this game have any sort of blue magic whatsoever? I noticed 1000 Needles on the license board, but that’s apparently a Technick.
Synthia
12-05-2006, 05:39 AM
Does this game have any sort of blue magic whatsoever? I noticed 1000 Needles on the license board, but that’s apparently a Technick.
Nope no blue magic persay though like you said 1000 needles is there. But you learn it just like any other tecknick, by getting a license, not from monsters like Blue magic. As for the scroll, you have it from bazaar I think?
Olde
12-05-2006, 07:15 AM
As for the scroll, you have it from bazaar I think?
No, you have to buy it as a regular item from the merchant in the Mosphoran Highwaste. Kinda expensive too if I remember correctly.
Agent0042
12-05-2006, 04:04 PM
Mosphoran Highwaste, eh? Well, I’ve made may my way there, so I’ll stop buy there as soon as I can, and I’ll gather up enough gil. I want that ability.
[G]riff
12-05-2006, 10:09 PM
where can I find the Deathbringer sword? I read in some walkthrough that it could be found by tripping a certain trap in the Feywood (in the section right before the gate to Giruvegan). I tripped every trap I could find and it still didn’t show up – I think it’s one of those cases where the Japanese version (the walkthrough I read was a translation) has items in different places than the American version.
[G]riff
12-05-2006, 10:11 PM
Speaking of 1000 needles – does that always just do 1000 damage? Or does that damage scale with level? I was considering getting it earlier on, but now all of my characters can routinely cause more than 1500 dmg a hit with standard attacks, so I kind of forgot about it.
Joey
12-05-2006, 11:54 PM
To get Deathbringer you need the Barheim Key. I will explain teh rest once you confirm you do infact have the Barheim Key, but if you need help with that PM me or something.
Also, I have never used 1000 Needles, I kind of thought it would suck.
Agent0042
12-06-2006, 12:07 AM
I kinda want 1000 Needles because right now my characters generally aren’t doing 1000 damage with most general attacks. If it works like 1000 Needles always did in past FF games, then yeah, it should always do 1000 damage. I don’t know though.
kamari
12-06-2006, 01:47 AM
is final fanstasy VII is a fun game to play?
Agent0042
12-06-2006, 02:42 AM
OMG ROTFL!!!!! Is this a joke account or what?
Olde
12-06-2006, 03:55 AM
1000 Needles always does 1000 pts of damage, it’s not like the Jumbo Cactuar’s 1000 Needles attack in FFVIII where it’s based on level. The bad thing is that it sometimes misses. For me, it’ll usually hit 2 out of 3 times.
also, lmao about the FFVII comment.
xcape
12-06-2006, 06:58 AM
My questions is about the Bazaar items…
In order to un-lock an especific item, do you have to sell all of the required items at the same time or can I just sell everything I have and when the missing items are sold then the Bazaar item is un-locked?
BTW, does this furum act wierd on Firefox 2 or is it just me? I cant find the new thread button!
The_Great
12-06-2006, 04:11 PM
To get Deathbringer you need the Barheim Key. I will explain teh rest once you confirm you do infact have the Barheim Key, but if you need help with that PM me or something.
Also, I have never used 1000 Needles, I kind of thought it would suck.
How do you get it? (i have the barheim key) I dont have the guide so i have no idea if the sword is even good but if you have to do something special to get it i assume it is.
soul ring
12-06-2006, 06:51 PM
"My questions is about the Bazaar items…
In order to un-lock an especific item, do you have to sell all of the required items at the same time or can I just sell everything I have and when the missing items are sold then the Bazaar item is un-locked?
BTW, does this furum act wierd on Firefox 2 or is it just me? I cant find the new thread button! "
Firefox is overrated.
The answer to your other question is no. You can unlock bazaar items even if you sell things one at a time. But take note: there can only be one unique bazaar item for sale at any time. That means…. say you sold 3x blah blah blah and 3x bleh bleh bleh to unlock a SuperGunAwesomeShit, you would see exactly 1 for sale in the bazaar even of you sold 10,000 blahs and blehs.
Also,
If two recipes share an ingredient, sell the ingredient needed by both recipes LAST to unlock both items at once. This is particularly useful when you want to unlock Tournesol, since it lowers the amount of High Arcana you need from 6 to 3.
Agent0042
12-06-2006, 07:56 PM
I would like to know where that Bartheim Key is also. And Firefox 2.0 works fine for me. It’s a very nice browser. Not sure what the deal with those problems is.
The_Great
12-07-2006, 01:23 AM
I would like to know where that Bartheim Key is also. And Firefox 2.0 works fine for me. It’s a very nice browser. Not sure what the deal with those problems is.
For the barheim key you have to talk with dantro’s wife in the south village in the estersand after you do the flowering cactoid mark. There is a wounded Bangaa in her house and she will use the cactus flower u get from beating the flowering cactoid mark to help heal him. She will send you on simple errands to get other items as well – nothing difficult. When the Bangaa is healed he’ll give you the barheim key.
l33tSlickPbOs
12-07-2006, 01:28 AM
Combos? Someone want to explain them to me? Why is it sometimes my characters will attack 3 times instead of the usual 1. Elaborate if possible. Thanks.
Slick
Agent0042
12-07-2006, 02:30 AM
The_Great — I swear I completed that task. As far as I know, I should be well past that. I’ve already continued with that quest and gained access to the Mosphoran Highwaste. The flowering cactoid turned into a new cactoid. Yet, I don’t recall getting any key. Did I miss something important, and if so, is there still a way to salvage it? I don’t know — I’m pretty sure I don’t have the sucker, because I seem to recall trying to get into that area last night and not being able to. I’ll check though.
l33t — as far as I can tell, combos are randomly determined. However — I do know one thing — I recall reading in the game that those combos only happen if you use a short-range weapon. Distance weapons such as bows and guns won’t do combos.
Joey
12-07-2006, 03:34 AM
For the Barheim Key:
Agent, I think you got as far as giving the flower to Dantro’s wife. After you do that, talk to young man on the dock and he will say something about how his dad has gone missing. After some more conversation he will take you to the North Bank Village.
Here there will be a small scene where the villagers are being held hostages by cactoids. They say how they want their son and they will let the villagers go once their son is found.
Return to the South Bank Village and talk to Dantro’s wife.
Then, go behind her house and you will see a small flower and the "!!!" icon will appear. Vaan will pull the flower up and it will actually be a cactoid. Return to the North Bank Village and return the missing cactoid to its family.
Return to the South Bank Village and talk to Dantro’s Wife again. She will ask you to collect some type of clams. Run along the shore of the South Bank Village and pick up the "Mysterious Glints" along the way. Once you have about 2 or 3 talk to Dantro’s wife. She will then ask you to go to the Outpost where Dantro is located to pick up another item.
Go speak to Dantro and look around the Outpost for the needed item, upon returing to the South Bank Village talk to Dantro’s wife. She will thank you for your help. Go behind her house and talk to the Bangaa back there. He will give you the Barheim Key.
I hope that clears things up.
Obtaining the Deathbringer:
This is really simple. Enter the Barheim Passage and make your way through until you reach the room that splits into two ways. You should remember this room from your first trip through the Barheim Passage.
One way leads to a Teleport Crystal and the other leads to the Deathbringer. Go to the Crystal first, just because it is nice and orange.
After touching the crystal and saving, it is a good idea to set everyone’s gambits to
Steal: Party Leader’s Target
Head back down the passage you did not go down earlier. Once there, it splits into two ways again. Just keep going straight.
In the next area you should run and see an Adamantoise. Run a little further down and look behind a giant rock, there should be a Mimic treasure chest. I believe the monster is called something like, "Ithuro." If it just a normal treasure go back to the Teleport Crystal and try again.
If the chest is in fact a mimic, steal from it like no other. Within a few tries you should obtain the Deathbringer.
I believe the Sword has 95 attack and On Hit: KO
It is excellent and worth the trouble.
Agent0042
12-07-2006, 05:01 AM
Joey — you’re kinda right. I’ve already done all of that find the flower and it turns out to be a cactoid stuff. But I never got any further than that. I will go back and talk the Wife again as soon as I have a chance. Thanks!
Edit — is there anything special I should know when it comes to Quickenings? I’ve basically been hitting R2 like crazy when one isn’t actually being cast and hitting the button as soon as any available one comes up, because that seems to be the thing to do? But is there anything else I need to be doing? Sometimes I seem to get lucky and get a really nice chain, other times, I get crap.
The_Great
12-07-2006, 05:29 PM
Joey — you’re kinda right. I’ve already done all of that find the flower and it turns out to be a cactoid stuff. But I never got any further than that. I will go back and talk the Wife again as soon as I have a chance. Thanks!
Edit — is there anything special I should know when it comes to Quickenings? I’ve basically been hitting R2 like crazy when one isn’t actually being cast and hitting the button as soon as any available one comes up, because that seems to be the thing to do? But is there anything else I need to be doing? Sometimes I seem to get lucky and get a really nice chain, other times, I get crap.
Yeah you probably finished the little quest but didnt talk to her that final time.
As for the quickenings its all about luck. Only advice I can give is to not press R2 too fast, nothing sucks more than missing a mist charge because you were jamming R2. Check the thread titled "Mist Charge" for more in depth explanation of the mist charges etc…
Agent0042
12-07-2006, 06:22 PM
The Great — yeah, I know. It’s taken care of now. I have the key.
Also, thanks. I will definitely check into that Mist Charge thread. I’ve pretty much been pressing R2 like wild, so now that I know there’s a strategy to it, maybe I can take some of the luck element out of it…
xcape
12-07-2006, 08:18 PM
Turns out that it was my AdBlock and NoScript plugnins, I added some new rules and its all good. I use Firefox for everything but Windows Updates and Hotmail!
So soul ring, if I resell 3x blah blah blah and 3x bleh bleh bleh do I get another SuperGunAwesomeShit to buy or is it a one time deal?
Whispermyname
12-08-2006, 03:17 AM
Nope no blue magic persay though like you said 1000 needles is there. But you learn it just like any other tecknick, by getting a license, not from monsters like Blue magic. As for the scroll, you have it from bazaar I think?
Thank god, I’ve always despised blue magic.
Agent0042
12-08-2006, 04:47 AM
No thanks — I’ve always adored Blue Magic.
Whispermyname
12-08-2006, 11:37 PM
No thanks — I’ve always adored Blue Magic.
To each their own. I eventually find however, that whichever game it is, no matter how good the abilities I eventually ignore the blue magic character. The exception being Kimari, but that’s because he’s ultimate weapon was just so damn good.
Agent0042
12-09-2006, 01:45 AM
You should try FFIX’s Quina — Lv5 Death kills every enemy in Kuja’s underground lair except the boss and it also works wonders on Grand Dragons. Pumpkin Head, Matra Magic and Auto-Life are especially useful too. And FFVII would have been a lot more trouble for me without White Wind and Big Guard.
Back on topic now, I suppose…
Whispermyname
12-10-2006, 10:38 PM
You should try FFIX’s Quina — Lv5 Death kills every enemy in Kuja’s underground lair except the boss and it also works wonders on Grand Dragons. Pumpkin Head, Matra Magic and Auto-Life are especially useful too. And FFVII would have been a lot more trouble for me without White Wind and Big Guard.
Back on topic now, I suppose…
One last off topic post:
Quina’s abilities do kick ass. I just got so tired of cooking things after a while.
Irinicus
12-13-2006, 08:26 PM
Ok question, I have Belias and Matues, is my next esper target Andrsomething in Zert. caves?
Olde
12-13-2006, 08:30 PM
Ok question, I have Belias and Matues, is my next esper target Andrsomething in Zert. caves?
Yes, Andremelech.
Irinicus
12-13-2006, 08:33 PM
Thanx Olde
Agent0042
12-13-2006, 09:46 PM
I beat Andremelech last night. If you’re around 30-40 in levels and have a decent license board, magicks and technicks, it’s not too tough. I just pounded Quickenings and when he put up the paling, I just kept my characters alive until the Paling went down and I was able to switch out for another set of Quickenings. The hardest part was actually getting the heck out of there afterwards and back to the save point, while trying to avoid too much damage from the Shambling Corpses.
Joey
12-14-2006, 04:51 AM
I found Blizzaga to work wonders on him.
Agent0042
12-14-2006, 06:12 AM
I don’t have the third-level elemental magicks yet.
Irinicus
12-14-2006, 01:07 PM
I tried my hand at him last night and alomost beat him but when I got my second quickenings off, I just noticed that he had his paling up so he was totally immune to it. I decided to zone out real quick to get my bearings and raise my dead and when I came back in, he had full health, <I am such the dumb arse>. I will try him again and get him down a little more than I did before I let loose my first quickenings which took off more than 75% of his health. By the way I am level 39 on all and he still kicks my ass.
Agent0042
12-14-2006, 04:03 PM
He healed himself? That’s weird. He never pulled that trick on me. Ouch.
The_Great
12-14-2006, 04:55 PM
I cant believe everyone has so much problems with Adrammalech, he was so easy for me. There was a thread devoted entirely to him but it has fallen to a later page. o_O
Anyway, I am having major problems with another esper: Zeromus (the one in the stilshrine of miriam). With the magic barrier and all those damned undead he raises I can barely get him to half hp before my entire party is killed. Anyone have tips on how to beat him? My party is levels 53-54 btw.
Agent0042
12-14-2006, 06:39 PM
Zeromus? Chalk up another past FF reference. Zeromus was the final boss in FFIV.
DeathShining
12-14-2006, 09:39 PM
I cant believe everyone has so much problems with Adrammalech, he was so easy for me. There was a thread devoted entirely to him but it has fallen to a later page. o_O
Anyway, I am having major problems with another esper: Zeromus (the one in the stilshrine of miriam). With the magic barrier and all those damned undead he raises I can barely get him to half hp before my entire party is killed. Anyone have tips on how to beat him? My party is levels 53-54 btw.
Jezus you should be kickin his ass, whats the problem with him? i cant remember to much from him. when i did that esper i didnt even have bubble, have you got bubble, use bubble, pheonix downs to revive chars instead of using raise or arise. Make sure you cast haste protect bubble and shell on every1 just before the fight.
When and if you get him down a third or so use quickenings, if you get a good string it should wipeout all the zombies, use the time to revive your party and continue to bash him again, concentrate all your attacks on zeromus not the zombies and have 1 char cast curaja constantly then if you manage to get him down a third again use quickenings. If all go’s well should’nt be much left of him.
The_Great
12-15-2006, 02:44 AM
Jezus you should be kickin his ass, whats the problem with him? i cant remember to much from him. when i did that esper i didnt even have bubble, have you got bubble, use bubble, pheonix downs to revive chars instead of using raise or arise. Make sure you cast haste protect bubble and shell on every1 just before the fight.
When and if you get him down a third or so use quickenings, if you get a good string it should wipeout all the zombies, use the time to revive your party and continue to bash him again, concentrate all your attacks on zeromus not the zombies and have 1 char cast curaja constantly then if you manage to get him down a third again use quickenings. If all go’s well should’nt be much left of him.
Thats a good idea, to put on my spells before the fight. I completely forgot i could do that. There is no way to use curaja though as all magic is sealed for the fight. However, if i put on bubble, protect and shell b4 the fight i should have no problem. Thanks for the tip.
Agent0042
12-15-2006, 04:03 AM
Oh, you weren’t putting up protective spells before the fight? Yeah, you should. I always do that. Haste, Regen, Protect, Shell, Libra — whatever you can get.
Olde
12-15-2006, 09:37 AM
I am having major problems with another esper: Zeromus (the one in the stilshrine of miriam). With the magic barrier and all those damned undead he raises I can barely get him to half hp before my entire party is killed. Anyone have tips on how to beat him? My party is levels 53-54 btw.
Zeromus is quite hard, but still doesn’t make it into my Top 3 most difficult Esper battles.
Always defeat the Dark Lords before targetting Zeromus for two reasons. 1. If you get the chain high enough, your party will get healed when you defeat them. 2. If you do defeat all the Dark Lords, there’ll be about 30 seconds where Zeromus is all by himself, which is a fair amount of time to do some focused damage.
The book recommends equipping Pheasant Netsukes to increase the potency of restorative items. Keep in mind that it’s impossible to dispel his status effects.
You might also want to try technicks. Namely, Souleater (risky though) and Shades Of Black, even 1000 Needles. If you’ve got Revive, you could also use that if one of your party members has low HP, but I personally don’t like using it.
Also, since you have no other use for MP, use QUICKENINGS! With all the MP licenses, you’re bound to get many Mist Charges during the battle. Stock up on X-potions and Phoenix Downs, and remember that the esper battles only get harder ๐
Irinicus
12-15-2006, 01:49 PM
OMG NO WAY!!! Don’t tell me they get harder, I finally just beat Adrammalech(sp?) after several tries. And when I did that, I had performed 4 different quickenings. The funny part of that was the last 2 I did, I started with a party of 3 and just before the quickening went off, 2 of them died, I was frustrated as hell. When all was said and done, Penelo was the last one standing, alive that is. So now I have to look forward to harder battles, this is going to get FUN.
The_Great
12-15-2006, 09:55 PM
OMG NO WAY!!! Don’t tell me they get harder, I finally just beat Adrammalech(sp?) after several tries. And when I did that, I had performed 4 different quickenings. The funny part of that was the last 2 I did, I started with a party of 3 and just before the quickening went off, 2 of them died, I was frustrated as hell. When all was said and done, Penelo was the last one standing, alive that is. So now I have to look forward to harder battles, this is going to get FUN.
Adrammalech is a bitch compared to zeromus Lol.
Also: If you have one character about to perform a mist attack, and one or two other members die, you can quickly switch in reserve characters to take their place, you just have to be quick. (assuming you have some reserve characters left lol)
Olde: Yeah i was killing the dark lords when it got too crowded. I ended up with like a 25 chain i think, but the stupid blue powerup things werent healing me enough lol. Also, i did use the quickenings. I pounded the shit out of him in fact lol. Unfortunatel one of them i got screwed and was only able to get a single mist off, which sucked. I had him down to within an inch of his health by using the quickenings and balance motes to kill off the dark lords lol.
When i face him again today im sure he will have no chance because i will use my spells before the fight.
Agent0042
12-15-2006, 11:59 PM
Okay, if Adrammalech is a bitch compared to Zeromus, then can somebody please tell me how I can unlock this esper and collect it and become all powerful like Kefka? ("I’m all powerful! I’m collecting magicite!")
I saw in the earlier post that it’s in the Stilshrine of Miriam, but how do you unlock it? Is there anything special you need to do? I haven’t been back there since I left.
DeathShining
12-16-2006, 12:09 AM
Okay, if Adrammalech is a bitch compared to Zeromus, then can somebody please tell me how I can unlock this esper and collect it and become all powerful like Kefka? ("I’m all powerful! I’m collecting magicite!")
I saw in the earlier post that it’s in the Stilshrine of Miriam, but how do you unlock it? Is there anything special you need to do? I haven’t been back there since I left.
To unlock zeromus you need ‘The stone of the condemner’ from the mt-bur-omisace section, after the attack talk to some1 outside the temple they should give it to you. Use the stone on the way stone at the stilshrine of mirium.
Agent0042
12-16-2006, 12:23 AM
Okay, I have that stone. Thanks for the info!
Olde
12-16-2006, 09:17 AM
Adrammalech is a bitch compared to zeromus
Are you sure you’re not thinking Zalera? Cuz I thought Andremelech was about as hard as Zalera, but I thought Zeromus was much harder. For Andremelech all you really need is Blizzara or Blizzaga. And there’s no restrictions either (ie Time Limit, Magick Barrier, etc.).
In fact, I don’t see what the fuss over Andremelech is in the first place. Do you even need long-range weapons to hit him? I can’t remember right now.
Agent0042
12-16-2006, 02:21 PM
I think I might agree with Olde. I tried fighting Zeromus last night and I made a decent crack at him, but I didn’t beat him. Those Dark Lords that pop up all over the place really screw things up. I think I’m going to need more power before I have a good chance on that one.
The_Great
12-16-2006, 04:03 PM
Are you sure you’re not thinking Zalera? Cuz I thought Andremelech was about as hard as Zalera, but I thought Zeromus was much harder. For Andremelech all you really need is Blizzara or Blizzaga. And there’s no restrictions either (ie Time Limit, Magick Barrier, etc.).
In fact, I don’t see what the fuss over Andremelech is in the first place. Do you even need long-range weapons to hit him? I can’t remember right now.
By saying adrammalech was a bitch, i meant that he was weak as hell.
Adrammalech was, by far, the easiest of all the espers to kill. ONE (possibly two, dont really remember anymore) mist combo took him out for me, it was rediculous. I couldnt believe he was dead. When the animation came up, i thought he was going to do some super attack to me, but he just died. Very dissapointing, especially after all the posts on this board about how hard he supposedly was. Zalera wasn’t difficult either, but it took longer to kill him then adrammalech.
Agent0042
12-16-2006, 04:10 PM
Okay, sounds like Zalera’s a pushover then. Where do I go for that one? Don’t tell me if he’s not available to me yet. I just reached the Tchita Uplands.
The_Great
12-16-2006, 04:26 PM
Hes not really a pushover, he just wasnt as hard as zeromus. If i remember correctly, he summons minions too, they just arent as tough. I actually dont even remember where i found zalera lol. I know i found him on accident, just like adrammalech, but i cannot remember where atm. o_O
Edit: Now i remember. He was in the barheim passage. He was pretty deep in there, cant be much more specific than that though, thats all i remember.
Agent0042
12-16-2006, 06:14 PM
Ah, Barheim Passage. I haven’t really explored too deeply in there yet. May try it later.
Joey
12-16-2006, 08:12 PM
Zalera was easy but he kept casting Kill, KO’ing a party member, so stock up on Phoenix Downs before you fight him.
Also, if you have fought the Bloodwing, he is near there, you just have to follow through the hidden area.
Agent0042
12-16-2006, 08:57 PM
Haven’t fought the Bloodwing. Sounds like I might want to look into killing two birds with one stone, as such.
The_Great
12-17-2006, 12:23 AM
OK just killed zermous finally. Wasn’t so bad this time around although he still put up a fight. Megalixer ftw. ^^
Also got another esper, the one from giruvegan. Have to say she isnt nearly worth the 2 full bars of mana that it takes to summon her. She did her super move on a mythril golem and it didnt even do any dmg wtf. She also died to a pack of couerls in about 5 seconds. o_O
Although its fun finding and killing the espers i sure as hell hope they start getting useful because right now they are sucking pretty bad.
Agent0042
12-17-2006, 01:22 AM
I don’t have any megalixirs yet, I don’t think, but I do have elixirs. Maybe I should be less stingy about using my items. I’ve always been an item hog…
Olde
12-17-2006, 06:44 AM
By saying adrammalech was a bitch, i meant that he was weak as hell. Adrammalech was, by far, the easiest of all the espers to kill.
Totally agree. Well, actually, I thought he was about as easy as Belias.
Also got another esper, the one from giruvegan. Have to say she isnt nearly worth the 2 full bars of mana that it takes to summon her.
Was that the one you get in the main story line? Yeah, she’s really useless. I only summoned her once, and needless to say, she failed miserably.
Agent0042
12-17-2006, 09:55 AM
I just got the magicks Bravery, Faith and Bubble from the Clan shop in the Muthru Bazaar and Rabanastre. I can tell already that these magicks are going to be extremely helpful when it comes Marks and esper fighting. Bubble doubles max HP and Bravery/Faith improve physical/magical attack. And I already have the Licenses for them on most of my characters. Anyway, if anyone doesn’t have those magicks yet and they’re available to you, make sure to get them right away!
BTW — while I’m here — what’s the trick when it comes to Maliris in the Zertinian Caverns? How do you get it to show up?
BeneHaElohim
12-17-2006, 04:21 PM
Although its fun finding and killing the espers i sure as hell hope they start getting useful because right now they are sucking pretty bad.
I agree completely. Granted, I only have a few espers so far, but I never use them (other than Belias against the Ring Wyrm) – they just don’t seem useful. Perhaps if they weren’t gambit-only characters they might prove flexible enough to be worthwhile.
BeneHaElohim
12-17-2006, 04:28 PM
what’s the trick when it comes to Maliris in the Zertinian Caverns? How do you get it to show up?
Wipe out all of the enemies in that room and just hang out for a few minutes (seems like forever). He pops up out of the sand when you head into a corner (sorry I can’t be too specific on which corner – I believe there’s a crack of light coming in through the wall, and it seems like the sand slopes up a bit right there) if you’ve waited long enough. Hope that helps.
Impulse
12-17-2006, 04:47 PM
After clearing out "Invitation to Heresy" in Zertinan Caverns, which can be most easily accessed via the SW exit of "Shimmering Horizons" in the Dalmasca Westersand, look for the largest room in the area (there will be sunlight shining down from above) and head into the corner. If Marilith doesn’t drop down from above, make sure that you cleared out "Invitation to Heresy"–it may take a few minutes for the mark to spawn, anyway.
Even though it was Slowed and Blinded, I remember healing a lot. If you’re pretty early into the game, expect your hardest battle yet.
Agent0042
12-17-2006, 04:50 PM
Okay, I thought it might be something like that, but I didn’t want to be waiting as long as I seemed to have been. Thanks.
Oh — and I know exactly where this is and I am very far in the game and get the feeling this thing is going to be a huge pushover.
Joey
12-18-2006, 12:18 AM
Yeah I had to wait for it for about 5 minutes. So you really have to be patient.
Agent0042
12-18-2006, 01:52 AM
I didn’t have to wait at all! Once I figured out the area you guys were talking about, the sucker showed up right away this time after I cleared all the enemies. Guess I just got lucky. Oh — and at my point in the game, Maliris was a total pansy / pushover. I didn’t even bother with Quickenings. Just physical attacks on Gambit and some magicks every once in a while. Bio seemed to work well.
Irinicus
12-18-2006, 05:00 PM
By the way, you dont have to clear out Invitation to Heresy to get Marilith to pop up. I killed him last night simply by waiting in the sunlight and he just sprouted up within seconds. I knew where to go and am positive that I did not kill all monsters in there first. And yes at level 49, he is a pushover, LOL. I too used no quickenings agains him.
Agent0042
12-21-2006, 04:23 AM
Okay, since I’m not going to be fighting him for a little while, I may as well ask — where in the Nabreus Deadlands do you find Atomos and what do you have to get it to show up?
Joey
12-21-2006, 05:38 AM
Atomos is in the Mosphoran (sp?) Highwaste and he in the area right before the Salikawood.
Agent0042
12-21-2006, 05:53 AM
He’s in the Highwaste? No, I don’t think that’s right, unless I’m thinking of another mark. The one I’m after is in the Nabreus Deadlands. The description tells me that he’s in an area of high grasses and heavy fog.
Oh — whichever one it was in the Highwaste, I already took it down.
Joey
12-21-2006, 05:57 AM
Ohh, you are looking for the Golem or Goliath thing.
Ok, go into the large circular area, the one before the teleport crystal. There should be a large rock that blocks off part of the area. Go near it and look at the banks on the Northern end. Walk along the bank and through the fog there should be a trail.
Just follow this trail into the next area and it is straightforward from there.
BE WARNED:
There are tons and tons of undead enemies that continue spawning near this mark and they tend to use spells like Protectga and Reflectga which also effects the Golem/Goliath.
That is the best of description I can give.
Agent0042
12-21-2006, 06:06 AM
Great, thanks! I’ll keep all that in mind.
Just Whatever
12-21-2006, 06:48 AM
Speaking of that particular mark… Roblon, I think it is, there’s a door behind him. Anyone go in there?
Agent0042
12-21-2006, 07:31 AM
I do believe Roblon is the name of the man who posts the bill for that Mark — the petitioner.
Irinicus
12-21-2006, 01:07 PM
Yes Roblon is in the Deadlands, I too am on this hunt. Joey is right Atomos is in the highwaste, rather an easy fight he was. I havent tried Roblon yet, I am thinking of taking out Trickster first. Any strategy for that hunt?
Agent0042
12-21-2006, 04:05 PM
Again, Roblon is the name of the petitioner.
Irinicus
12-21-2006, 04:10 PM
Agent, Morgen is the name of the Petitioner, Roblon is the name of the actual Mark itself. Check out the site I provided in this thread, plus I know that its the name given in the game as well.
Agent0042
12-21-2006, 07:21 PM
‘K, I was going by Joey’s info, sorry.
Irinicus
12-21-2006, 07:53 PM
Bad joey!! LOL j/k
Just Whatever
12-21-2006, 09:06 PM
So….nobody’s been in the door behind Roblon then?
Agent0042
12-21-2006, 10:20 PM
Tell you what — after I fight the sucker later this evening, I’ll give it a go.
DeathShining
12-21-2006, 10:49 PM
The door thing behind the roblon is just a shrine i think, it has an item that lets you open 1 of the doors in the necrohol of nabudis, not sure what item it is but its part of the chaos esper mini-adventure side quest thing 0_o
Joey
12-22-2006, 02:51 AM
I cannot keep track of names because not only do I not care, but there are quite a few of marks that look exactly like the Roblon.
But I never understood how you opened the door behind him…
THEBlueCat
12-25-2006, 07:39 PM
I just got FF12 yesterday and for some reason I can’t access the menu or the maps. Are you supposed to press select(map) and triangle(menu), or did I misunderstand the tutorial? I’ve just reached the estersand to fight the rogue tomato, if that helps at all.
Agent0042
12-25-2006, 08:00 PM
Right, select should be your map and triangle should be your menu. And start button is pause. You might want to try pushing some other buttons and see if you can get your menu and if you can, check your configuration settings. You might also want to check and see if your controller is still working properly for other games.
Oh, and X brings up the battle menu usually, unless you’re selecting something or talking to someone, etc.
Whispermyname
12-26-2006, 06:27 AM
I just got FF12 yesterday and for some reason I can’t access the menu or the maps. Are you supposed to press select(map) and triangle(menu), or did I misunderstand the tutorial? I’ve just reached the estersand to fight the rogue tomato, if that helps at all.
You aren’t alone apparently:
http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/final_fantasy_xii_mech.txt
Check out the appendix.
The upshot is that you need to use a different controller.
Agent0042
12-26-2006, 03:57 PM
I can’t count how many times I’ve said this before — direct links to GameFAQs don’t work. You need to give us the title of the FAQ and link to the GameFAQs section for Final Fantasy XII.
Whispermyname
12-26-2006, 04:07 PM
I can’t count how many times I’ve said this before — direct links to GameFAQs don’t work. You need to give us the title of the FAQ and link to the GameFAQs section for Final Fantasy XII.
My bad. Didn’t know.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/game/459841.html
The FAQ is called: Game Mechanics FAQ
Again, see the Appendix.
Germ
12-27-2006, 06:54 PM
I’ve been playing ff12 for 3 days now and I’ve just reached the part where I found Mjern and defeated that 50k hp drake boss. I’ve got a few questions in my mind that I would like to ask.
1) Is there a way to know which part of the game requires what best suitable level? Cos there is no way I could tell if I’m behind level or not.
2) I’m kinda stuck at the mistknack thingy, the highest dmg I’ve dealt is 300+ only…how do I use it? I only see the R2 button thingy..am I supposed to keep pressing R2? And I’ve noticed that when a character has 2 mistknacks added, his mp increased 2 fold, will it increase 3 fold with 3 mistknacks?
3) There is 3 places I went past without getting the espers(belias temple, cave at the sand dunes part and another cave at osmone plains)..so I’ve only got belias..is it possible getting them when I get stronger?
4) If an esper dies, can we use pheonix down or revive it or we need to get to another crystal to be able to summon it?
5) I’m not sure what is the mistknack and esper mp cost, it seems to me that it consumes alot of my mp.
6) I’ve not fought the first wall in the temple(20k hp) where I got belias, can I fight it again in the future when I got stronger? I heard it opens up another path leading to a hidden weapon.
Thanks!
Agent0042
12-27-2006, 07:10 PM
Germ — check the threads titled Mist Charges and The Quickenings Thread. These are going to answer a lot of your questions and I think they’re both still on the first page.
BTW — not sure where this "mistknacks" thing is coming from unless that’s one of those fan translations directly from the Japanese version. It’s Mist Charges.
Germ
12-27-2006, 07:27 PM
How about 1, 3, 4 and 6?
Agent0042
12-27-2006, 07:45 PM
1. If your characters are getting run over, then it’s probably too low.
3. Far as I know, just come back later
4. Just get yourself another Mist Charge. Your espers are probably going to die anyway, probably better to just forget about them until you get stronger.
6. No idea, probably.
the guy watching you
12-28-2006, 10:15 AM
can you change the camera controls?
Joey
12-28-2006, 08:07 PM
Nope sorry. I noticed that as soon as I started the game. I wanted to invert the look but you can’t. You will just have to deal.
Just Whatever
12-28-2006, 08:45 PM
As for the demon wall, yes… you’re better off running from it the first time, but come back when you’re stronger and there’s a path behind it. Plus, go see Montblanc in the clan hall to get a reward for killing it.
THEBlueCat
12-28-2006, 11:58 PM
The FAQ is called: Game Mechanics FAQ
Again, see the Appendix.
Ah, thank you. Problem solved.
BeneHaElohim
12-29-2006, 01:00 PM
As for the demon wall, yes… you’re better off running from it the first time, but come back when you’re stronger and there’s a path behind it…
You may be able to come back later, but you’re not necessarily better off doing that. There is a save crystal right before you reach the first wall, so save first then give it a shot – you’ve got nothing to lose.
*Spoiler Warning – sort of*
I beat the first wall my first time through the Tomb (2nd attempt) and the Demonsbane at the end of the hidden passage (including Broadaxe drops from the Tallows therein) are a huge attack damage advantage. Just remember, if you don’t get the treasure you’re looking for, keep trying – having the grimoire for flans helps here (sorry, I don’t remember the name of it) as it increases the chance you’ll get broadaxe drops as you go back and forth to the treasure chest.
Agent0042
12-29-2006, 04:52 PM
Okay, a while back, somebody was yapping about some sort of uber-weapon — something you could only get if you didn’t open certain treasure chests. They seemed to think it was only for Vaan, but I recall whoever it was being told that it can be used by anyone. Anyone recall what the deal was with this?
kilgoretrout25
12-29-2006, 04:56 PM
that weapon is the zodiac spear. you can still get it if you opened the chests, but the odds are much much lower that it will be there. anyone can use it if you license it. it does kick ass. i wish i had 3 of them.
Agent0042
12-29-2006, 04:59 PM
Sweetness, I already have it.
BeneHaElohim
12-29-2006, 05:04 PM
My understanding was that you can only get the spear if you HAVEN’T opened any of those 4 chests (which of course I discovered too late). Can anyone else confirm that the Zodiac Spear is still obtainable if you’ve opened some/all of the chests? If so I know where my next stop is ๐
kilgoretrout25
12-29-2006, 05:20 PM
can’t confirm that cause i didn’t open the chests and got the spear. but i’ve read posts where people claim to have gotten it after opening the chests. they could be lying.
Agent0042
12-29-2006, 05:39 PM
I wasn’t even trying to get the spear and didn’t even know where it was before I got it. I think I opened like anywhere from two-four chests before I got it! No joke.
BeneHaElohim
12-29-2006, 06:03 PM
/me grins ear to ear
Thanks Agent, I thought all hope was lost for acquiring that bad boy.
Just Whatever
12-29-2006, 08:35 PM
Ok…. so where is it? (allegedly) ๐
BeneHaElohim
12-29-2006, 08:56 PM
In the Necrohol of Nabudis there’s a room plugged full of treasure chests/pots/whatever – it’s in one of those. Sorry I can’t be more specific.
Joey
12-30-2006, 10:58 AM
I actually believe that the Zodiac Spear you can get (and open the chests), is in the hidden section of the Henne Mines.
BeneHaElohim
12-30-2006, 03:51 PM
I actually believe that the Zodiac Spear you can get (and open the chests), is in the hidden section of the Henne Mines.
I believe there’s only one location to obtain the Zodiac Spear:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSoLzL2jN6A
Edit: you’re right Joey, I just confirmed this. Once the path to Zodiark is unlocked in the Henne Mines you can access a "hidden stash" which of course contains the Zodiac Spear.
Agent0042
12-30-2006, 06:10 PM
Okay, I’ve already got the Zodiac Spear (which I can confirm I did get from the Necrohol), but without too much spoiler detail, what is this Zodiark and how do you unlock it? I remember the Geomancer in Jahara mentioning a secret in the Henne Mines, but he said I wasn’t strong enough for it yet.
BeneHaElohim
12-30-2006, 06:30 PM
Without too much spoiler info hmmm, well it’s not part of the actual storyline anyway soooo: you need to acquire 10 espers then speak with Geomancer Yugelo again in order to access the secret area in the Henne Mines. Once there, you can acquire a Zodiac Spear and battle Zodiark, a high level esper.
Since you already have the spear from Nabudis, I’m not sure if there will be a second one available in Henne or not – maybe someone can help us out with that tidbit?
Agent0042
12-30-2006, 06:40 PM
Okay, ten espers. Thanks.
Chrissss
01-10-2007, 09:26 AM
I have a question because Im lazy right now.
How do I get into Geruvegan or w/e. Im guessing Gigas is an Esper I must obtain to get in, but Im not sure what to do.
Help please.
Olde
01-10-2007, 09:40 AM
Im guessing Gigas is an Esper I must obtain to get in, but Im not sure what to do.
Belias is a Gigas. So summon him, then examine the door.
Chrissss
01-10-2007, 09:52 AM
Ha, thats kind of funny. I haven’t been paying much attention to the espers and thought Belias’ name was Gigas, but when I seen it was Belias, I scrapped the idea of summoning him.
Thanks for the help.
Olde
01-10-2007, 09:53 AM
No prob.
Chrissss
01-16-2007, 04:55 PM
How do you get into the phase 2 area of the Henne mines? I cant seem to figure this out..
DeathShining
01-16-2007, 06:01 PM
You need to obtain 10 espers then visit the garif cheif, i think its the cheif anyway, 1 of them will open the phase 2 door for you.
Buddy_killer
01-16-2007, 06:04 PM
Ok so i read this thread like every time someone posts on it and i have got alot of info and i just wanted to say thank you for all the info that i get from here al though i just started playing the game like a week ago and i am not very far
Zora
01-20-2007, 05:23 AM
Could someone explain what the Collecter’s Edition is exactly and what is unique about it?
Joey
01-20-2007, 05:30 AM
Tin case and a Bouns DVD with some extra features such as: some art work, interviews with the staff, and a brief history of the Final Fantasy series. Really nothing special but it is nice to have it.
BeneHaElohim
01-20-2007, 08:08 PM
I just spent 30 – 40 minutes entering, exiting and re-entering the Westersands trying to bring on a sandstorm – no luck. Can anyone tell me if there is a better way to do this? Is there any way to increase the odds of a sandstorm occurring or is this just completely random?
Joey
01-20-2007, 08:44 PM
I do believe it is completely random. Walking in and out of the area doesn’t do the trick though. Teleport/Airship your way to another area then try coming back to Rabanastre.
Not a definite solution just an idea.
Why do you need a sandstorm anyway?
BeneHaElohim
01-20-2007, 08:51 PM
Thanks Joey, I’ll give that a shot.
I’m trying to bring up a sandstorm as I read that’s the only time that the Gnoma Entites are out – the Gnoma Halcyon (sp?) is the last ingredient I need in order to get the Ultima Blade.
Agent0042
01-20-2007, 09:14 PM
Yeah, I’ve encountered a Gnoma Entite before when there’s a sandstorm. Wasn’t able to beat it though — still too early in the game. I had to run away.
BeneHaElohim
01-21-2007, 12:34 AM
I had the same problem with another Entite further west early in the game, Salomon (sp?) I believe it was (orange in colour) – gave it a shot but it handed my ass to me – just barely got out in time.
Well I’ve been trekking back and forth to the Westersand for about 2 hours and still no sign of a sandstorm – starting to wonder if the sword is actually worth this much trouble, but I guess I’m too far into it to give up now. Anyone else have any thoughts on what more I can do to bring this on?
Agent0042
01-21-2007, 01:42 AM
I’m not sure. Maybe it’s something that you just need to leave alone for a while. Try going off and doing stuff somewhere else for a while and then come back to it.
And Entites — yeah, I actually ended up getting a Game Over on one before. They’re really not so tough once you’ve built up your party some, but even around early 30s or so, they’re still tough unless you’re really lucky / good. Much beyond that though, and they start to get easier. And of course, by that point, standard Elementals are a piece of cake.
Is this really the only way to get that sword?
Da Chedda
01-21-2007, 01:46 AM
how do you get to ixion?
Da Chedda
01-21-2007, 01:47 AM
anyone?
BeneHaElohim
01-21-2007, 02:01 AM
I’m not sure. Maybe it’s something that you just need to leave alone for a while. Try going off and doing stuff somewhere else for a while and then come back to it…
Thanks – sounds like good advice at this point as I was considering heading that direction now anyway – took a couple of side trips to get Cuchulainn and Exodus, still no luck – think I’ll take on a couple of hunts and if there’s still no storm I’ll move the storyline forward and try again.
…Is this really the only way to get that sword?
LOL, good question – I got hung up on trying to get this b/c of another thread I was reading (Thread 35486); sounded like an interesting task, collecting these items and all, so I didn’t even look into other methods – guess I was just tired of hunts, espers, etc. at the time and wanted to take on something new. Talk about Forest for the Trees syndrom ๐
Joey
01-21-2007, 06:14 AM
Ixion: (Taken from GameFAQS)
Pharos-Subterra
Ixion can appear randomly on any of the subterra floors. The easiest way to
spawn him is to ride the elevator by the gate crystal to Penumbra and back up.
You’ll know he’s spawned when there are no swarming monsters around the ring
If you fight him in the center ring(where you get off the elevator) he’ll have
the lesser HP total. Just run around the ring when you find no monsters and
he’ll eventually teleport to you.
I hope that helps.
Agent0042
01-28-2007, 07:14 PM
Okay, I suppose I could just check a walkthrough, but since I have some other stuff to take care of anyway, I suppose I’ll just ask here. I know there’s a secret path on the Mosphoran Highwaste related to those Shrines. Which Shrines do I activate to get that set up? Also, where’s the secret chocobo path?
Kushiels_Scion
01-28-2007, 07:43 PM
this is s dumb question i started the game not long ago and the guide im using from online suggests to get Libra but its unlocked but i dont know where to purchase this at. I look at all the vendors in Rabanatre and nothing.. confuzzeled…
Agent0042
01-28-2007, 08:01 PM
Actually, I don’t think the Technick shop in Rabanastre sells Libra. Try heading a little ways through the Estersand to Nalbina Town and see if the Technick shop there has it. Alternatively, you can also get an accessory that has it, but that’s only useful really early in the game.
Kushiels_Scion
01-28-2007, 10:36 PM
I dont see any Nalbina town to the east.. am i missing something? i went as far east as i could go. Im to the point where i need to go to the aerodrome but i need to get libra first…
Agent0042
01-28-2007, 11:24 PM
You need to head to East Gate into the Estersand. It’s where you fought the Rogue Tomato. After that, you come into a village, you want to continue through that village into another area of the Estersand. Explore that area that you’re in now and you’ll eventually come to Nalbina Town. There’ll be a Gate Crystal just inside and if you go a little further, you’ll enter the town/fortress proper.
Once you get Libra, you’ll want to set the Gambit Ally:Any —> Libra as soon as possible. Or Self —> Libra for each character, if you’re obsessive like me and never want to be without it. It’s actually not required though. Libra gives you additional target information and also reveals hidden traps. It’s highly useful, but definitely not required. Oh, and if it’s not being sold in the Technick shop in Nalbina, then just continue on with the aerodrome. You should be heading to Bhujerba next and I would imagine you can get it at the technickery there.
Kushiels_Scion
01-29-2007, 12:48 AM
okay thanks ill check it out again. I didnt see any city out east but ill try again. is it an actualy outpost?
Kushiels_Scion
01-29-2007, 01:11 AM
only city il’ve found requires a ferry to get across the water
nvm i found the fork i missed… looking to see if i can get libra here.
Kushiels_Scion
01-29-2007, 01:21 AM
arg i cant find libra anywhere…. i never even saw a technique guy in rabanatre…. lol confuzzeled still why this thing is telling me to have that tech if i cant find it..
OMG it was in rabantre…. i could never find the shop cause it was right by the magic shop
Agent0042
01-29-2007, 01:23 AM
Yeah, you blew way past it, but I see you found it eventually. Hopefully you got it there, if not, just move on with the playthrough, you’ll get it eventually.
Are you familiar with hitting Select to bring up the full-screen map? If not, you should get used to using both it and the minimap right away, it’s really useful. And make sure to buy maps from Cartographer’s Guild whenever possible. Some maps are found in urns, but others can only be gained from Cartographer’s Guild.
I’m in the Feywood, I’m Lvl 50.
How do I open the Gigas Gate?
x_O
Agent0042
01-29-2007, 03:27 AM
Kushiels — each type of shop has its own icon. You should familiarize yourself with those icons. Also, if you hit X when the larger map is up, it will list all shops.
Egg — summon Belias then have at it.
Kushiels_Scion
01-29-2007, 04:49 AM
yea i got it all figured out now. im at the boss ghig or whatever his name is after rescuing lady ashe… though hes hell…
i do have 2 characters fran and vaan with their quickenings well both of them have only one. it says only 3 are aloud a character so are their 3 ONLY per character or certain ones i should get and certain ones not to bother with?
and any tips on this boss… hes driving me crazy
BeneHaElohim
01-29-2007, 06:06 AM
Okay, I suppose I could just check a walkthrough, but since I have some other stuff to take care of anyway, I suppose I’ll just ask here. I know there’s a secret path on the Mosphoran Highwaste related to those Shrines. Which Shrines do I activate to get that set up? Also, where’s the secret chocobo path?
Hey Agent, are you talking about getting to Exodus? If so, I grabbed the Chocobo in the north end of Rays of Ashen Light and found the path south of there in Empyrean Way. I noticed that the path was actually marked on the area map with an exclamation mark, but I’m not sure when that happened – maybe after activating the shrine.
The three shrines you need to activate are Shrine of the South Wind (to open up the Chocobo path), Shrine of the North Wind and Shrine of the Northwest Wind (to create a path to Exodus himself).
Agent0042
01-29-2007, 04:47 PM
Bene — yeah, that would be what I’m after. Thanks for the info.
BeneHaElohim
01-30-2007, 12:38 AM
No problem. I just went through that about a week ago, so if you have any more questions it’s still pretty fresh in my mind. Best of luck.
Agent0042
01-30-2007, 01:52 AM
Yeah, I have questions all right. Where do I find the West and North Wind Shrines? I’ve only been able to find the Northwest one. I’m about 40 floors up on the Pharos now, but I’d like to have a go at this once I get back down.
BeneHaElohim
01-30-2007, 02:14 AM
Good question – I’m still just friggin’ around trying to get a sandstorm in the westersand so I’ll make a trip to Mosphoran in a sec and get the locations for ya.
Update:
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Okay, needless to say, all of the shrines are in the Babbling Vale area. Interesting tidbit, I see now that as you activate the shrines they are marked on your area map with that purple "gear" icon, and the paths that they reveal are marked with the exclamation mark icons. I also realized that I got one of the shrines wrong in my earlier post (edited now).
The Shrine of the South Wind is the first one you come to if you enter Babbling Vale from the south – this is the one that opens the Chocobo path if I’m not mistaken (judging from the location – also the one I got wrong earlier). The Shrine of the Northwest Wind is the one you’ll see if you look north-east from the teleport crystal (not sure why it’s on the east and named west). The Shrine of the West Wind is actually located appx. northwest of the teleport crystal; look up – the one you can’t get to initially. You have to take the Chocobo path to the "hidden" area to the west – "SkyReach Ridge" – dismount and cross into the Babbling Vale where you can activate the Shrine of the West Wind then you can finally hit that damned weathered rock to create a path from the hidden area to Babbling Vale.
Once you’ve done that I’d suggest saving at the teleport crystal before you head back and take on Exodus. He wasn’t really difficult, but better safe than sorry. You should see all kinds of icons on the area map now – just follow the exclamation marks to get to Exodus. If you need any more help just let me know.
Hope that helps.
Agent0042
01-30-2007, 02:52 AM
The sandstorm? When I wanted to a sandstorm to fight that Earth Wyrm thing, or whatever it was, I went to the area bordering the Westersand and Estersand. I tried to get through it, but it said that a fierce sandstorm blocked my advance. When I returned to the Westersand area I was in before, the sandstorm had started up there.
Thanks for the info on the Shrines!
BeneHaElohim
01-30-2007, 03:16 AM
My pleasure.
I had the same issue early-on when I was exploring ahead of the story – couldn’t get from the Estersand to the Westersand b/c of that sandstorm. Just tried it again per your advice but still no luck – teleported to the South Bank village and headed north then west – can get through now since the Wyrm is gone, but still no sandstorm. Walked back to the South Bank village and ported to Rabanstre, and again no sandstorm in the Westersand – accepted the Ancient Man of Mystery hunt while I was there though – hopefully the sandstorm starts up after this one Kupo ๐
Agent0042
01-30-2007, 04:05 AM
Okay, surely GameFAQs has something about this, I’m gonna go take a look at that and see if I can get this info… Hmm, okay, somebody on this here (
http://www.final-fantasy-12.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-309.html) says that a sandstorm shows up once every thirty minutes. Another conflicts and says that it’s a 1% chance.
I’m in Giruvegan I owned the boss at the begining after the teleport stone, and have managed to go through many of the "mazes". Including invisible green floors and gates that must be switched. I am currently at the next Blue Cyrstal where I have looked throughout the entire room and found the only possible door is one of the sword things where the red light comes down and opens it. (x_O Sorry for not being able to explain this with greater detail) Except it won’t let me open it, I can’t even touch it, read it, nothing. My action icon (!!!) doesn’t even appear. Any information on where do I go/do would be greatly appreciated.
forevercloud
01-31-2007, 03:05 AM
If you go up to the second level of the map right after that blue save crystal there is another secret green path. This map is split into a few levels, on the second level up to your left when entering from the blue save crystal, you make a right and to your right from there it should look like it goes out into space. You just walk forward there and another secret walkway appears leading you to the boss, and another teleport stone. That’s the best I can describe it. If you have trouble just walk to the edges of all those areas on that map, and you should be able to trigger it.
Thanks, I’ll try that out… right now!
Thanks for the previous help forevercloud.
Now I am trying to get to the tower, where the Sun-Cryst is. Do I have to go through the Nabudis Dealands? I have and now I am stuck in the Necrohol of Nabudis trying to find various "Medallions, with inscriptions". Where are these medallions? Am I even supposed to be going this way?
Help would be appreciated once more.
Agent0042
02-01-2007, 11:05 PM
The Tower? Then I assume you have The Strahl, right? You need to get yourself to an Aerodrome, stat, and set a course.
Oh, Bene, your Mosphoran tip worked great. Exodus was a complete pushover, but it was worth it to go there. I’m one esper away now from access to the secret area in the Henne Mines and I found a Rare Game.
forevercloud
02-01-2007, 11:12 PM
Yea, like Agent said Egg, you’re in the wrong area. Getting to the Sun-Cryst has absolutely nothing to do with the Necrohol of Nabudis. The whole finding the medallions sidequest is something completely different. Just take the strahl to the Ridorana Cataract and make your way up into that tower there. Then you climb the tower, and once at the top, have the best story development in the game. Atleast until the ending.
I have the Strahl and the weird stone that lets me go over some weird word.
:l I need to get to the tower at Ridorana.
Edit: Oh now I see the Ridorana, It’s been all the way to the right this entire time.
Thanks. ๐
Agent0042
02-01-2007, 11:16 PM
You need to visit either the Private Airships booth at any Aerodrome or an Anchor. Board the Strahl and tell it to navigate to Ridorana — offhand I believe it’s in the general area of the southeast. It’s the Jaqd you’ll be flying through.
Agent0042
02-02-2007, 11:13 PM
Hey, thanks for the tip that was posted about Ixion. He was too strong for me, but I did manage to find an fight Phoenix. Man, that’s a nightmare of a place, though. And the Magick Pots are stupid — why would you even put that monster in this game unless it’s going to give booku EXP like the ones in FFVII? I only intend to fight two to get it for the Clan Primer, and I’ve already got one.
Okay, two items:
A.) There’s an Altar of Night in that area, but it says you need a specific number of those Black Orbs to activate it, but what’s the correct number? I don’t wanna screw it up.
B.) There’s an area in the Lhusu Mines — Site 6, I believe, that’s completely disconnected from the others. How do you get to this area?
Undead_Lives
02-02-2007, 11:16 PM
B) Site 6? I only remember site 9 and site 11 as being side areas.
For site 9, do the Antlion quest. If you’re beating Magick Pots, Antlion will be no problem for you.
For Site 11, you need to find a key off of Phon Coast (after the Antlion quest you’ll get hints about it). This is used to face Gilgamesh a second time. He’s much harder btw.
Revaninja
02-02-2007, 11:25 PM
The Keys are easy to get Agent first one to site 9 you get when you accept and finish Antlion hunt which sets up for Key 11. Go to Phon coast look for a Bhujerbain or however you say it there is a shiny next to him that is the key but you can’t get it until after Antlion hunt is done.
As for the Sandstorm after you kill the dragon in Wyrm Lair it becomes ALOT less likely to happen it still does from what some people say but I haven’t been able to get one and I tried for an hour just going back and forth to westersand from Rabanstre. The dragon if still alive makes it alot easier to get them just go to its lair then back out to get a SandStorm. But yeah I have actually posted a request for a cheat to control weather because it is too hard and unlikely to happen after the Wyrm is dead. So tough Luck.
As for the Alters of Night yeah they are a PAIN in the. But the way I did it was to put one in each time you will never screw up that way and it only takes time but the game pauses to let you do it which can help a lot in the later stages. Just put 1 in at a time I ended up wasting 5 orbs on a 3 orb requirment because I tried to rush it is just safer and easier in the long run.
As for the Magic pots if you kill them they give something like 113 LP or so and Megaelixirs you can also steal back your elixir so it is worth it to finish off your LP Board.
forevercloud
02-02-2007, 11:41 PM
Yes, ninja is right, it is safer to just put them in one at a time although if you’re in a rush I will gladly post the orb requirements. Penumbra- NE-18, NW-9, SE-3, SW-6. Umbra- NE-15, NW9, SE-15, SW-18. Abyssal- NE-15, NW-21, SE-27, SW-12. Coming to a grand total of 158. Definitely a pain in the ass. Although Agent, you are able to beat the magick pots but can not beat Ixion? I though Ixion was easier than they were.
Agent0042
02-03-2007, 12:35 AM
All you have to do is give the damn Magick Pot an Elixir and it just starts bouncing around like crazy and you can finish it off with a few attacks. Haven’t you faced Magic Pots in past FFs?
P.S.: That’s wonderful info about getting Megalixir and Elixir back from the Pot, very cool.
Anyway, thanks for all the tips. Wow, that’s a lot of orbs.
Oh, and I am not talking about any of the sites in the Lhusu Mines you guys mentioned. I already beat all that stuff. There is an area that is 100% disconnected from everything else — no paths leading to it, and I’m pretty sure it’s site 6. It’s near path leading up to the Gate Crystal.
Revaninja
02-03-2007, 12:42 AM
I think I know what you are talking about there a bunch of Pandoras in there in fact the only Pandoras I have found In Lhusu. There is a Secert Path to it I don’t remeber where but I think its below it Map speaking just look around for a part that continues beyond the map. You cross the dead zone then hit a screen change and there you are. You will know it because there are a mix of Pandoras and regular chests there.
According to Loki over at the site linked below, the chance of getting a sandstorm in the Westersand seems to be greater if you enter from Giza Plains. I can’t speak directly to it, as I haven’t defeated Earth Tyrant yet, but I just fought two Gnoma Entites and got my Halcyon and Earth Crystals. I entered from Giza both times and it only took two entrances each time. If they come that fast pre-Earth Tyrant, I’m willing to wager that it’s the only way to get one post, that lets you keep your sanity.
I don’t (think I) need anymore sandstorms but let me know if this has any validity cause I’m curious.
http://www.twobrothersandasister.com/?p=350
Revaninja
02-03-2007, 03:48 AM
Hmm first time I heard that think I will test out tonight for you be back in like 30 min.
pagan pride
02-03-2007, 04:05 AM
what about this question,..
i read real quick n a walk through somewhere,.that if you get all the "POWER" gambits,.that it’ll boost your party’s strenth,immencely,.
since i brought the game home,."gambit’s" been like strait up blasphemy,.. so i bought an assload of them,..
which ones is it reffering to? i figured just the ones that say "FOE",..
any takers?? or do i need my own thread,.u got 24 hours before i try something else,.i don’t want to dissrespectanybody,. but i was just needing to know this,..
Revaninja
02-03-2007, 04:09 AM
Okay just tried while Giza is Dry with 15 attempts so no it doesn’t work for Dry I will try Wet another day.
Pagan they meant License which are called aguments they boost healing items, magic, attack, Hp, quickness in battle, Etc. Someone was either just trying to fool you or wrote the wrong name in. Gambits only affect what you party usually what the 2 other characters do. An example would be Ally:Any Phoenix Down which is the one of the best to have on all the time. Another would be Ally:Hp<60% cure-or whatever health item you want- which is also good. Gambits are the AI commands its how you tell your party to do something like cast magic or attack without you going in and giving each a command one at a time it saves us from the reapation some other FFs have been responsible for.
As for each Foe means what is your target doing or is like weak aganist fire is one, inflicted with a status so forth. Ally means all other playeble characters or a paticular Character which would have the heeding Ally:Fran and the like. Ally has pretty much the same selections to make as foe. Self just means the Whatever it is directly releates to the that character. An example of all 3 types is Ally:Mp<10% ether, Foe:Flying telekensis, and Self:Blind eyedrops. Now becareful you can’t completly automate your party because if say you have on the party leader Foe:Nearest Attack and you get close to an active foe-one witha orange red bar- the leader will automatically move to engage that Foe. Also some things like Steal create problems if you try to Automate them. But there are some advantages like say Foe:Leaders target Attack on your 2 other characters they will then attack the same things you do with no commands otherwise they will just sit there doing nothing other then what their Gambits say or you tell them to do.
Also remeber that the Order the Gambits are determines their importance. An example is if Ally:Hp<10% Cure is above Foe:Leader’s Target Attack then they will stop doing their Attack and instead heal themselves when they hit 10% same goes if the Foe is above the Ally even if the Hp hits 10% their gambits tell them to Attack before healing. A good idea is to keep all attacks at the bottom Heal revive at the top and Status heal in the middle. It can be a pain to watch your party stop to heal themselves bt in the long run it will keep you alive longer and in good Standing.
pagan pride
02-03-2007, 04:31 AM
i dig the auto attack,. but the rest is auto play<<not jiven it personally,.
damn,.that suxx,.i had all tat shit first,.i was gaining levls hard core,till i found the ‘doubles licence pts." accessory,..
also suxx the espers are all shitty in this one,.thanx alot man!! much appreciated,..
Agent0042
02-03-2007, 05:07 AM
Rev — thanks for the info. I already found Pandora in the Necrohol, so I don’t think I’ll be needing much there, but thanks.
Revaninja
02-03-2007, 05:12 AM
No I wasn’t meaning go there as in find the Pandora entry for the list but rather as in you know you are in the right place thing. Since as I said the Entry says Lhusu mine and that place is the only one I know of that has them beyond the Necro. So I was using it as a mark here you are thing should have been more clear.
Agent0042
02-03-2007, 05:16 AM
But I think you don’t have to fight an enemy to get it to show up in the right section — once you fight any enemy in a section, from what I recall, all enemies that are native to that section show up in it instead of ???. But I intend to stop by there anyway — I don’t like to have grey areas on my map.
BeneHaElohim
02-03-2007, 05:31 AM
Oh, Bene, your Mosphoran tip worked great. Exodus was a complete pushover, but it was worth it to go there. I’m one esper away now from access to the secret area in the Henne Mines and I found a Rare Game.
Happy to help (sorry for the delay – been away for a bit). Best of luck with the esper in the mines – if you manage to come across another Zodiac Spear once you get in there I’d be interested to hear about it.
Agent0042
02-03-2007, 06:01 AM
I still need to gain one more esper before I can get access to that area.
Revaninja
02-03-2007, 06:21 AM
Which ones I have them all so I know where they are.
Belias, Mateus, Shemhazai, Hashmal, and Famfrit you get in the main plot and will have them all by the time you finish Pharos.
Adrammelech is in the Zertinan Caverns, Cuchulainn is in the waterway finish the haunting and pudding hunts to be able to get him, Chaos is in the Necrohol of Nabudis and you need to do the Medallion side quest go to Dalans to start, Zalera is in a hidden part of Barheim Passage near the exit to the Waterway, Zeromus is in the Stilshrine talk to one of the elderly priest things after Bergan to get the key to him then hit the first waystone, Exodus is in the Highwaste on top of the mountain use the shrines to get there, Ultima is in the great crystal in Giruvegan look in Gamefaqs for a map its easier to explain that way, and Zodiark is in Henne mine.
You only need 10 Espers to gain permission for Zodiark though I suggest getting them all for the levels Zodiark was hard nearly killed me so many times and I was level 71 or so. My hint Bring Dark absorbing equipment since his most powerful attack is Dark based with a random death spell throw in. You could lose none or all it is random. Bring a full stock of supplies and Confuse stopping stuff just to get to Zodiark I nearly died when Vaan got Confused and used tournesol on everyone before being cured. And the enemies are level 70 or so and have an unlimited spawn rate near the end and if you kill a monster even an already undead one you have a good chance of a Ghost monster being spawned so watch out.
You’re right, Reva. I didn’t mention the state of the Giza Plains when I was sandstorm hunting. It was the rains, so you can try it if you’d like. I’ll be taking down the Earth Tyrant in short order myself, so if you don’t get a chance, I’ll certainly share what I find out when I do.
Agent0042
02-03-2007, 06:04 PM
I’ll go after the Waterway esper.
Revaninja
02-03-2007, 06:46 PM
Open the slucie gates you first need to make the west and east side viable via gate control you can only do one at a time since you have a 2 gate actiive limit the circles on the ground near the controls tell you if it travable or not. Find in the west area first the first needed gate control don’t worry these ones dont effect the limit. It will open a partians gate the screens that block you but dont stop water. Once you find it in the wes do the same thing in the east section. You need to be on the toptier to find them none of them are in the canal ways. After you open both gates change the Gate control to clear the area directly south of you from the Slucie gate control. Go down there to a large square/rectangle area you will see a stair leading down into the canal with an open Partians gate thats the one you want. Cuchulainn will show up after you walk in a little bit.He is not very hard or at least physically he is not what he does have is a sap affect on the field and a lot of status inflictions to use aganist you. Keep a very close eye on your HP I nearly died aganist him because I focused on his HP and not my own which got saped to nothing lucky switching in my weaker party paid off. Beware if I remember right he can inflict Sap on a character so that character will have a double sap going and will die very quickly if you are not carefull. Kill Cuchulainn as Fast as you can to win this without it getting ugly. And that is all I have for you.
forevercloud
02-03-2007, 09:49 PM
You need to worry about the Flan, I don’t know if thats what they’re calling it in this game?, he summons and I think he might use disable as well. Not entirely sure about the second one, but be careful basically. It’s really not all that hard though.
Revaninja
02-03-2007, 09:56 PM
I forgot about the flan thanks. Yeah he really isn’t all that hard its just his stupid status affects that can really kill you and invert which he uses semi-regularly.
Agent0042
02-03-2007, 11:52 PM
It’s all right, you guys can forget all the bonus strategy tips on that, really. I’ve already taken care of all that stuff — I’m post-Pharos. I’m into dealing with stuff like Behemoth King and all that now. I just need the esper, which I’m sure will be a puss to take down.
Revaninja
02-04-2007, 12:05 AM
He can be and more then likely will be its his stupid Field effect and Status that we are warning you about. Rememeber The first Demon in FFT Chulacin or something along that line? Cuchulainn is his remake and all the problems from FFT come back to haunt in this. An example that knocked my characters out fast was Flan on both sides He Inverts Hp Mp on Fran Hp field effect is saping her and the flan hit her once and she died. He abuses big time Invert and with Sap ALWAYS on he is dangerous in the extreme when he does it. So Kill him fast hard and nasty or he will make you pay in pounds of blood. That is what we were trying to warn you about.
I’m in the Third Ascent of the Ridorana Cataract or whatever. There are some poles you can trigger that teleport you (Not Waystones). And I have tried everyone of them but I still can’t seem to advance in the map. I’ve been through the one of sacrifice, in which you have to stay alive and withhold the onslaught then the magicks binding the door will fade. You get the map for the third ascent there as well. And through all the others but these enemies are so damn strong and I thought I was Overleveled, so It’s sop hard to just go around scouting everywhere.
There is quite a bit of them and actually as you advance in the green one (I believe) different colored poles become available. Which way is the correct way? I can’t seem to find it. x_O
By the way, Did anyone enjoy killing the green fire people, where once you killd a certain amount you could pass over certain bridges. I thought it was very creative.
Revaninja
02-04-2007, 02:49 AM
Go up and yes all who have beaten Pharos have done it you have to though there is a secert if you Kill the Deidar after you finish the bridge on floor 35 and no Brainpan you open a bridge to a fool’s facade and a treasure. As for the third ascent I know what you are talking about they have colors and glyphs right the key is Black, Green, Red, and sacrifice then hidden colorless glyphless one. If you screw up twice you go to a room with a map urn and a bunch of word pillars. The pillars tell you the order for each. But watch out a lot of Undead monsters will come in until the gate loses its magic then RUN and go to the black. Look around for alot of fool’s facades they give you a slightly easier more rewarding path to follow just do the order Black green Red Pink-sacrifice- and colorless-it looks white with a reflective sphere-. The colorless is in a fool facade in the upper left of the map area and location.
Agent0042
02-04-2007, 04:04 AM
Rememeber The first Demon in FFT Chulacin or something along that line?
No, I’ve never played Tactics. Yes, I know this game is set in the world of Tactics and I should play it.
He Inverts Hp Mp on Fran Hp field effect is saping her and the flan hit her once and she died. He abuses big time Invert and with Sap ALWAYS on he is dangerous in the extreme when he does it.
Noted, but I’ve had other enemies pull this trick on me and still beat them okay. I’m not really worried, even if it knocks one character out, there’s always Arise, plus my reserve party.
Revaninja
02-04-2007, 04:18 AM
Blaphesmy you haven’t played FFT!? Go NOW PLAY FFT. Really some of the things brought up, nearly all the espers, a few monster lists, several loot items, Monster attacks, and hints of the game are in FFT. Though my one problem is does FFXII happen before or after FFT? You see the last battleground in FFT is an Airship graveyard though they appear the standard Airship boat design from FFVI on down considering the time of the games devlopment its an EH moment. So does it happen before all the tech gets dug up and refitted for everyday life? or is it FFXII tech IS the dug up tech? We may never know since from what I rememeber about the dating system its different from one game to the next like FFXII happens 705 BI while FFT happens after the 50 year war and start to end of the Lion War. FFT is also FFs first true landscape roaming battle. So Agent you should play it just to fill in the some of the small blanks. I would suggest a ROM or something of the like since now a days it is like the Orignal Valkyrie Proflie for PSone very hard to find I purely lucked out big time with my copy of FFT. I gave it out to a Friend of mine then I lost contact with them and had to get a new copy I lucked in a pawn shop one day.
Agent0042
02-04-2007, 04:21 AM
I was thinking of playing it after I get done messing around XII to my satisfaction.
Tactics is great. Tactics Advance, not so much, at least IMO. Though based on your avatar it might be worth checking out for Montblanc’s rise to power. The clan is only beginning when Advance starts. I assume the rise to power happens over the course of that game, or in the intervening time between it and XII. I honestly don’t know, I played the first battle of Advance and threw a fit. I was under the false impression that it was a straight port of Tactics, which is a really stupid assumption–PSX game on GBA, yeah that makes sense ๐
But Tactics is coming to PSP now, so a replay is finally in my future. To keep this on topic, how much relevent stuff is in Advance, Reva? I know Tactics is chock full, like you said.
Revaninja
02-04-2007, 06:48 AM
FFTA has no connection to FFT and FFXII beyond names. FFTA to clarify has a plot that you play a young boy recently moved in you and your new friends a tomboy your brother and a sickly child gather to read a Fantasy book said book turns out to be magical. When the Sickly boy later that night makes a wish that Life was like that book it grants it. The young boy whose Name I have forgotten works with Montblanc to restore the world to what it is supposue to be. And to let you in on something if you screw up in a few places Montblanc will die and his younger brother Nono takes his place sorry Agent. Judges, Vierra, Nus, Banaga, Clans, and a few of the espers not found in FFT are introduced in this game. I never finished got sidetracked big time by College so I can’t say more then about roughly Half way in. Oh and Cid is playable and a Judge in this game one of the cooler characters though he requires special things to join. It has a system that I didn’t like that restrict the players choice like field effect break the rules too much the Judge throws that person in Jail for a time. Each battle is ruled by a Judge and no characters can die except in one nasty thief town where Montblanc can die. The player can alter or bend the rules a little a little bit into the game but not as well as I would have liked and one of the reasons I stopped. But I shall not Pass Judgement on it that is for those who have finished it. But beyond the Name of Ivalice and a few other things like Zodiac condtions there is little to link FFTA to FFT.
Zodiac condtions are basically if you are born in this time it makes you strong and weak aganist this element. Lets take mine for instance Taurus I am strong in earth weak aganist wind. You get to enter a Birthday and Name for both Main characters in FFT and FFTA it doesn’t really effect anything in the long run I felt its just a cool feature. I always try to get one for each 12-13- Zodiacs.
As for FFT I really like to play for the pleroa of Warrior women you gather I think you gather 4 Permanent Heronies Agrias Oaks a Hot bloodied Blond Holy Knight, Rafa a Dark skinned Assassin priestess, Meliadoul Tingle the Daughter of the Main villian and extremely Hot Bloodied though honorable Shrine Knight, Reis a Dragon tamer turned Dragon that you can turn back into human taken by Beowulf yes he is awesome touch his woman and be less of a man. You can also pick up alot of other Hero units and regular grunts. Very nice intresting plot with a church consiparcy that if you are believer in a Messiah like the christians, Catholics so for may not like My only problem with it is the lack of Character devolpment of the Hero units after they join beyond bits and pieces. As well as the Fact beyond Attack you have to learn everything lets repeat EVERYTHING inculding Potions and so forth Can be a pain in the kester. But other then that a good game for when it was devolped so don’t expect FFXII graphics but a nice complex plot sure.
forevercloud
02-04-2007, 05:48 PM
I though tactics was phenomenal. It adds a lot of levels off difficulty, atleast the last time I played it I found it hard, and awesome characters. One of my favorite ff games, and definitely well worth it to play through no matter the graphical handicaps.
The kid’s name in TA is Marche, I remember that much ๐
To veer this back on track, the official guide says that in order to get Old Dalan in your Den you have to possess all the maps and have cleared them (i.e., no grey areas left), while the online FAQs I’ve read claim that you simply need to own the maps.
Anybody know which is correct? Also, if you missed the Rabanastre Palace map you can supposedly purchase it in Old Archades.
Revaninja
02-04-2007, 10:42 PM
I got the map since it was my very first map urn at was like what in the…Oh thats what it does.
As for Dalan I still have to get him I think I have just Hellwyrm’s cave to do since I think I have been in every room in the game that you can be.
I do know that places you can only visit once (e.g., Nalbina Dungeons, the Leviathan), places that don’t have maps (The Great Crystal), and the Bahamut don’t count.
If you have all the maps and still don’t have him, I’m going to conclude that you have clear all the maps. That’s cool, not like I wasn’t going to anyway ๐
Revaninja
02-04-2007, 11:03 PM
No that is not true I have read in all of them that Hellwyrm cave which is another room has to be opened I have not done that yet so hold your horses on the jump. I will look into in the next few days i have the key and directions needed just haven’t done it yet and I am toying with the idea of a new game I will check on tuesday or so and get back to you on it.
Not a problem. Take your time.
pagan pride
02-05-2007, 03:00 AM
thanks to this site,.i just now beat the game,my first time through,. & with the exceptio of th phon coast trophy hunts,. i’ve narly hunted everything,. but i need the location of pylraster & behemoth king and any rare espers/side quests,. i’m sure there’s still plenty to do,. i heard something about some fishing side quest,. is this even benefitial? or is it just another something to do?
Revaninja
02-05-2007, 03:44 AM
Okay alot to cover so I will pick and choose and direct you elsewhere for your answers.
First espers look back I posted on page 8 a where and which Esper thing its not 100% coverage but it tells you where most espers are and a hint on how to get to them.
The fishing guide is a sidequest and if you have killed Yizmat the last mark and Omega in the cyrstal hidden boss drop or have a reward in badges. Complete the fishing game to get another badge sell all 3 and earn the Wyrmhero sword not a great weapon but not bad either.
To start the game complete all the events in Eastersand village with the boat crossing nets you the barhiem key as well. Talk to the man on the pier to the left then go to the port Balofheim go to the aerodome section while on the way to the dome you will see a man to the left fishing talk to him a few times admire his fishing pole he will say its one of a kind and that he is getting hungry go towards the dome but not in after you can no longer see the man go back he will be gone but his rod is still there claim it and give it to the man in the village. This opens up the game.
Behemoth King is in Feywoods before you enter Giruvegan first kill all monsters in both sections with the shrines in them that point towards giruvegan. Then go back to the place near the gate he should be in the middle and he is HUGE so you can’t miss him if he isn’t there there are still monsters in one of the areas. Also the same method to find all the royalty vegs the ones you kill upon entering Sochen Palace. Just go towards the other area not the one with the Gigas gate but the other one they wander around the shrines go up to where you killed the plant boss to reset them pain in the butt. The Behemoth King switches between Magic shield and pailing and non-elemental attacks work the best.
Pylraster is at the Pharos. Go to the warp cyrstal then go outside where you fought the zombie dragon and there he is.
As for the rare game I am still working on that I plan to make a new game tonight and just have fun so don’t expect a complete list yet but I do have a few. and they all give trophies
Disma Lhusu mine near where you fight Gilgamesh 2nd time
Aspidochelon Cerobi steppe where all the admantitan are looks no different from the Admantitan and appears randomly
Dreadguard Feywoods near the plant monster mixed in with the mirror knights a bit larger.
Bull chocobo Sandsea use the warp cyrstal for the sandsea make it so you are facing the cyrstal go right and there he is.
Melt Henne mine where you turn the lever going towards the warp cyrstal not sure what casuses him got the Flan I think first time then Melt second.
Crystal Knight somewhere in the secert part of the great cyrstal found him while searching for Ultima.
Alteci Zertinan caverns I think a kill chain since I had a huge one going on the horses and he apperaed so good luck.
And thats all I have found so far.
Agent0042
02-05-2007, 03:50 AM
Reva — I have to admit, your explanations are a little long-winded and not really well laid-out, at least to me. I tried your info to get that Waterway esper, but got completely lost. If you don’t mind, I think I’m just going to head over to GameFAQs. I need specific locations / names and step by step instructions.
Revaninja
02-05-2007, 03:57 AM
I am doing it from memory but yeah go ahead I have no complaints after all I am failable. And I give short detail because I want to still let the player discover the answer I just point in the right direction is all.
AS for being long winded I usually cover alot of different material like above in my posts. I should probably space them to make it easier in fact thats just what I will do.
Agent0042
02-05-2007, 04:00 AM
Yeah, that’s definitely a start, adding in some spacing. Thanks. Anyway, I do appreciate all of the help you’re giving — I just find it a bit hard to follow at times and I worry others might find it that way as well.
pagan pride
02-05-2007, 04:05 AM
how do you cast curative spells,or life spells/items etc,. on undead emeny’s? is there some stupid gambit? cause it won’t let me<<<i hate gambits
Revaninja
02-05-2007, 04:11 AM
Gambit Foe:Undead Cure or whatever it is you want some enemies are immune and or cast reflect after the first hit.
No prob Agent I get writting and then I forget to do spacing when I jump to a new theme because I am use to going back and tabing it in to show. I will try to fix that.
Edit I found a Music video named Final Fantasy XII Sunrize its in my opnion better then the Pre-game intro we get and better music besides.
pagan pride
02-05-2007, 04:19 AM
thank you very much sir,..much appreciated info,.& i think your explanation above,will keep me plenty buisy for a little while,.thanks again
also,.in my opinion,.people all over the internet abriviate,.& almost nobody uses prfect spelling/punctuation,. i just think agent needs to take heed of the 4:20 & chill out a little bit,..
by the way,.agent,.you must get payed very well,.for taking your job so0O seriously,..
**lights up the blunt** here dawgg,.take a few hits,."anybody else want some?"…….
~~peace out
Agent0042
02-05-2007, 04:28 AM
pagan — we are not "all over the Internet" here at FFShrine. We aspire to a higher standard. If you can’t deal with that, GTFO.
And yes, I am paid in spades — the satisfaction of telling off dumbfucks like you.
Revaninja
02-05-2007, 04:29 AM
No thanks have had way too much BETTER crap in my system when I was younger. As for Agent each their own and he was right bunching up my post like that made it hard to read and find what you wanted. But as for spelling errors yeah I have no excuse at all for mine but I just can’t find the energy it would take namely typing up what I want to say in Word fighting it on the Names of places and some of the strange ways it wants to structure my senteces then copying and pasting it to be posted. But thats just me I take blame for all my errors except where I know for a fact I am not wrong. Once again to each their own.
forevercloud
02-05-2007, 04:46 AM
Well back to that map completion, has anyone done it yet? And also, do you need to have every map owned or can you explore them without actually buying/discovering map urns.
And yes Pagan, learn to type. It makes it so much easier to follow anything that is said on here, plus it’s just dumb to type like that. gOt iT bUdDeEE?
Agent0042
02-05-2007, 04:52 AM
forever — in my experience, you don’t have to have the puchased / urn maps, but it helps. If you don’t have them, then you basically have to guess it. And unexplored areas just don’t show up. If you have the map, then unexplored areas show up in sort of grayish. Of course, it’s really whatever you wanna do, it’s not like completing the map gives you anything.
Revaninja
02-05-2007, 05:00 AM
Yes it does Agent Old Dalan figure which lets you if you collect all the Sky pirate den figures finish off your rank in the clan beyond Knights of the round I haven’t finished all of them but I know it needs all Figures and 1 million points or so to advance beyond Knights of the round.
Agent0042
02-05-2007, 05:04 AM
Oh, well that’s interesting. Well, I’d say I’ve made good progress on that — of course, I still have a long way to go on a lot of things.
forevercloud
02-05-2007, 05:13 AM
Ah, I see. Well I’d better get working on finding my way around the rest of these maps and seeing if I can discover the urns. The urns definitely sound like they make this map completion a lot easier.
Revaninja
02-05-2007, 05:28 AM
By the time you kill Yizmat the ultimate Mark you should have most of the Figures at least 4 or so from elite hunts. You get one for magic, tech, and Lp board completion as in have them avabile like buy the magic or tech. Actually here we go.
Vaan-50 steals
Penelo-Have 100,000 gil
Ashe-Average level 50
Basch- 500 enemies slain
Balither-attack 300 times
Fran-cast magic 200 times
Belias-all 13 espers
Ultima-get ultima
Zodiark-get Zodiark
Montblanc-get a 50 kill chain
Vayne-perform tech skills 100 times
Vossler-All techs
Cyrstal-all magic
Rasler-Full Lp board(Have all espers to do it and a full Lp board)
Gurdy-spend 1,000,000 gil
Migelo-Sell 1,000 loot items
Mimic-All Rare items in Bazaar like Monographs and the Jar
Gabranth-All quickening finishes done
Ba’Gamnan-Full monster list don’t need to get second page just the monster
Behemoth King-Kill him
Deathgaze-Kill him
Fafnir-Kill him
Gilgamesh-Kill Him
Trickster-Kill him
Hell wyrm-Kill him
Yizmat-Kill him
Carrot-Kill Her
Old Dalan- Finish all maps and Hellwyrm location(either fill in all grey or go into each room a little confusion on which)
Reks-Get 500,000 clan points
I looked it up I will be honest. Most of them you will get as a norm like Basch and Balither by the end of the game. The 4 hardest to get are Old Dalan, Ba’gamnan, Hellwyrm, and Yizmat. Yizmat and Hellwyrm because of their diffuculty or hard to find location. Old Dalan because of the confusion on what it takes to get him. Ba’Gamnan because you have to kill Yizmat, Hellwyrm, all rare game, and Omega to complete and someone runs into problems in those areas with an occasional sandstorm entite trouble.
So hope it helps.
forevercloud
02-05-2007, 05:39 AM
Ah, many thanks. I have a lot of those so far. Now I have a question, the hell wyrm. I have the guide and for some reason cant find it in there, I just bought it so maybe I missed it some where. But I’ve been looking around and if somebody could give me some info or point me in right direction because I’m not sure if I’m just retarded or what, but I don’t know where that dude is.
Revaninja
02-05-2007, 05:51 AM
First you need the key find the wyrm philospher after the Vyrral hunt and he will give it to you in exchange for the scale. He is in the same place as the Vyrral examine one of the windMills.
Go to Sochen Palace. The place where all the rooms are connected to each other with that door that is locked in the west is where you want to go. But you must use the caves to get to the east room look on the map you will see the path go to the east room. Now from East room going through the Doors of Hours go in a clock wise pattern East to South, South to West, West to North, North to east. Once back in East a message of heard a door opening far off should pop up. If you don’t get that you screwed up go back out through the Uplands exisit then back to the East room using the CAVES. DO NOT USE THE + PASSAGE AT ALL.
And there is your dragon it is also the place for Yizmat you have to kill Hellwyrm to get Montblanc to open the Elite Hunt Yizmat.
I have un update on the Sandstorm situation. I just fell Earth Tyrant, and I actually got a sandstorm on my way out out of his den. ๐
Entering from Giza Plains during the Rains, I have ellicited a sandstorm, on average, every 4th entry, with as few as 2 entries.
Hope this works for Bene
forevercloud
02-05-2007, 08:53 PM
Thank you, I just got the key and unlocked the door so I shall be attempting this fight shortly.
BeneHaElohim
02-06-2007, 02:23 AM
I have un update on the Sandstorm situation. I just fell Earth Tyrant, and I actually got a sandstorm on my way out out of his den. ๐
Entering from Giza Plains during the Rains, I have ellicited a sandstorm, on average, every 4th entry, with as few as 2 entries.
Hope this works for Bene
Thanks K, I haven’t tried that yet and it’s some new info that I haven’t come across so far – will try it out tonight and let you know.
EDIT
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After weeks of searching, this has finally brought about a sandstorm – it took about 30 – 45 minutes of zoning from Giza to the Westersand, but it worked – I found a Gnoma Entite within seconds, but alas, no Gnoma Halcyon (used Thief’s Cuffs to steal, no luck, and unfortunately no halcyon from the drop either). K-Negative, you’re the man (or woman) – I’m going to keep at this until I get one – will report back shortly.
Agent0042
02-06-2007, 04:09 AM
Hey, Bene — how about you just exit to another area within the Westersand and then come back? As long as the sandstorm’s still there, the Entite is a respawn — just try stealing from it again — wash, rinse, repeat, but don’t lose the sandstorm. That’s the tactic I read. Just don’t kill it!
BeneHaElohim
02-06-2007, 04:19 AM
That’s what I’m working on now – I’ve killed 3 Gnoma Entites since this worked and it’s all been from simply moving from one area of the Westersand to the next.
It seems like each area I enter has an Entite (not sure if this is the norm; maybe I’m just getting lucky) – my goal was just to steal, then if unsuccessful, zone out twice and come back to face the Entite again and try stealing the Halcyon, but every time I change zones I manage to find another Entite – not complaining, it’s just that I only end up stealing an Earth Crystal, and if it drops anything it’s just an Arcana.
I’m going to try facing it, stealing, then re-zoning without killing it since the stealing-killing-zoning method hasn’t yielded favorable results yet.
Will report back with more details shortly.
Agent0042
02-06-2007, 04:42 AM
‘K, good luck. BTW, obviously the halcyon is a rare drop / steal — have you managed to acquire all the other halcyons? I don’t have any.
Revaninja
02-06-2007, 05:32 AM
Agent do you have the monographs? Talk to most Merchnat one of each type 50 times complete the Therax Hunt and examine the Hunt board 50 times to get each. They really do help ALOT on getting the rare drops. The entite graph you need to talk to a Seller about 100 times I think to get it. They are all Bazaar items and say crest of the knight and such.
Agent0042
02-06-2007, 05:42 AM
I am aware of the monographs and earned most of them simply through general shopping, but recently became aware of how that method of getting them works from a guy in one of the shops in Rabanastre. I have four monographs — are there anymore I should know about? I’m really not sure if I have the one for the entites — is there a specific seller I need to be talking to?
P.S.: If it helps, I do have the Sky Pirate’s Den for getting all rare bazaar items.
Revaninja
02-06-2007, 05:53 AM
There 8 in total and here is how to get them if I make less sense then normal I am sick so please bear with it. Sorry. Okay first each is called Grimoire in the Bazaar and one is Morbid Urn. It works like this Name, How to obtain, and what it Helps drop rare. Happy hunting.
Hunter Monograph-thextera Hunt Helps Beast/Avion
knight’s Monograph-talk to any weapon merchant over 30 times Giants/Insect
Warmage Monograph-Read hunt board more then 20 times Amorphs/Undead
Mage monograph- Talk to any Magic seller over 25 times Fiend
Scholar Monograph- talk to any Armor seller over 15 times Construct
Dragoon Monograph-Read Hunt board over 40 times Dragons/Plants
Sage Monograph-Talk to any Seller over 100 times Elementals
Canopic Jar- Sell Phobos Glaze, Horakhty’s flame, and Demios Clay. Enemies drop Arcana
Edit- the game supposedly keeps track of your talk recorded so I have been told you can go many plays and then pick it up on cumaltive instead of just sitting there going to shop screen and back out again until the Bazaar good becomes avabile like I did. I have no idea if this is true or not so good luck. They really aren’t all that much it takes about an hour to do or so if you just sit and do it and thats with long winded speaches from the seller.
Agent0042
02-06-2007, 06:20 AM
All right, I’m pretty sure I have most, if not all of those, but there may be one or two I’m missing. I’ll write it down. Oh, BTW, regarding Thextera — I discovered that after doing that one, you have to talk to a guy in the bazaar and then he’ll put it in there. I discovered it by accident while looking for info about the Windvane for the Earth Dragon quest.
Revaninja
02-06-2007, 06:59 AM
You have to talk to the pettiioner himself that is the guy and I don’t remeber if you have to talk to him once the hunt is done or Talk to him then track him down in Muthru Bazaar to get him to place it in.
Agent0042
02-06-2007, 07:27 AM
Pretty sure you have to track him down in the Muthru Bazaar — I completed that hunt a long time ago, but never got the Monograph until I talked to him then.
Anyway, it turned out I was missing three and I got all of them within about five-ten minutes at most, because the game does indeed keep track of it throughout. Whenever I next play this game, I’ll make sure to just get all of them right away. (Well, as soon as enough gil becomes available anyway.)
the guy watching you
02-06-2007, 08:33 AM
do i need to have a diamond armlet equipped in order to get good treasures from the henne mines(zodiack part) and the floors under the pharos where the seer mark is at?
forevercloud
02-06-2007, 01:08 PM
You do not have to have a diamond armlet equipped, I acquired fomalhaut, ribbon, and Ultima Blade from the Subterra without having diamond armlet equipped. Also I got the Zodiac Spear in the Henne Mines East Section without having diamond armlet equipped. So I guess the armlet can’t hurt your chances, but it is most definitely not a necesity.
Revaninja
02-06-2007, 02:03 PM
Actually I think the Diamnod Armlet hurts your chances in getting Rare treasure like that. I had on the Armlet doing the Crystal for excalibur and a few other places like Henne mine and all I got was Gil while wearing it never any nice Equipment. And it happened everytime I went for rare treasure so I wonder if the Treasure is non-attanabile when the Armlet is equiped. And we are talking about me spending an hour to 2 just going for the Excalibur alone nothing else and I still got gil everytime.
Agent0042
02-06-2007, 04:50 PM
Yeah, what’s the point of that Armlet? I too am beginning to wonder if it actually just hurts your chances of getting the good stuff.
Oh, BTW, I got the Waterway esper, so I now have access to that area of the Henne Mines. It wasn’t the pushover I expected, to be sure. My party was never in any real danger of losing, but the sucker sure does have a lot of status effects and stuff to throw at you.
Thanks, Bene but remember it was Loki on that site I linked. I’m working on getting the Mardu Halcyon right now. I obviously don’t have the Thief Cuff’s but I’m up for the challenge.
Revaninja
02-06-2007, 05:19 PM
We know thats why we warned you its not his power its the field effect and status aliments that will get you. But glad you did it. Now which 2 espers are you missing for there a grand total of 13
of them. If you are doing this before the end of the Game I suggest you get to level 70 or so I was at that level and still nearly died just getting to him. Equip Dark absorbing and Magic avoiding stuff Like Black Masks and Aegis Shield to help survive him and getting to him. His main spell Darkja is Dark based but it also has a Death spell in it that hits at random you could lose everyone, no one, or 1 or 2 so come in with a FULL supply of phoenix downs they are faster then life spells and less likey to hit the lag motion effect that plagues FFXII. Go look at Zodiark thread for more strategy to help you.
K you can buy the Theif’s cuff at Mt-Bur-omisace I think. They are also a hunt reward and a Bazaar item if I rememeber correctly. I have had Mine for awhile so I am not 100% postive but I do have 6 total so I think you can buy them at the Mt.
Agent0042
02-06-2007, 06:47 PM
It’s fine, my A-Team is all Level 74 and I’m aware of equpping dark-resistent equipment, but thanks.
As for Thief’s Cuffs, I think the moogle in Eruyt Village sells them. Either that, or yeah, Omisace. They’re really cheap, no reason to be without them.
Yep, Omisace. Please remember I’m not there yet. I’m in Giza during the Rains, just after Raithwall. Yes, I can take down Entites. I’m level 42 and it isn’t exactly pretty or timely, but I can do it pretty efficiently. I’ve already got my Gnoma and Mardu entries complete, I’m just trying for the halcyon.
I read about someone who had to steal 40 times with the cuffs to get a Gnoma Halcyon. Took me 3 times, no cuffs. Probabilities work in mysterious ways ๐
I already took down Gil Snapper (thank you Nihopalaoa + Elixer!!), but I’d like to take him down clean on subsequent playthroughs. Is the secret to harming him Dispel? I tamed him with a Nihopalaoa + Remedy and whacked away for 10 minutes without any damage to show for it :-\
Agent0042
02-06-2007, 09:38 PM
Good god, proceed through the plot, stop making things difficult for yourself.
That just wouldn’t be my style.
I found out that you can buy the cuffs in Mosphoran. If the merchant isn’t plot dependent I think I’ll track him down. I’ve had access to the Highwaste since I ran off Deweg and Gibbs for July in Nalbina. I’ve only been hanging out in the first two areas, poaching Wary Wolf for Hell-Gate’s Flames.
Agent0042
02-06-2007, 11:45 PM
Hmm. I never considered running of Deweg and Gibbs for July. I usually gain access to the Highwaste by helping out the sick man in the Estersand and then you get access to a ferry that can take you there. I didn’t even know it was possible to gain access that way. Fascinating.
forevercloud
02-07-2007, 12:08 AM
Um well I know that you can get atleast Excalibur while having the diamond armlet equipped. Can’t say about the other ones. I had diamond armlet on and get Excalibur on my second try, probably just really lucky. I don’t know if it honestly makes it impossible to get certain items, except for the Zodiac Spear in Necrohol. You can not obtain that with the diamond armlet equipped.
Doing so after Raithwall (rent a Chocobo and ride him into Gibbs), but before reaching Mosphoran (in the storyline) will make July give you a Salamand Halcyon when you reach Archades.
So, it is available at the same time Patient in the Desert can be finished (technically Cactuar Family if you want to parse the side-quest into parts like the guide does). In fact, if you can run past the Humbaba’s it might be easier than taking down the Wild Saurians to get at the Valeblossum Dews you need.
I wonder if Cactuar Family would play out if you "came in the back door." Probably wouldn’t.
Edit: My that last sentence is dumb. It wouldn’t play out, they would be still be off with the Cactaur family. Deserted village, hmmmmm.
Ubernoob
02-07-2007, 01:01 AM
I had a small question ๐
I just got back from Fran’s village and my next boss in Tiamat
Bacsh 24
Ashe 21
Fran 21
Vaan 20
Balthier 20
Pen. 14
I’m not sure if my character’s levels are high enough to beat Elderwirm and Tiamat.
All of my characters have their level 1 quickenings and Ashe has her first summon.
forevercloud
02-07-2007, 03:06 AM
Well, elderwyrm is a tough boss. He throws lots of status effects at you. My guess is the fight can be done at that level, I was a little higher though definitely. My main party was about 32 if I remember correctly. You’re going to need to set up gambits to esuna, if you have it?, or remedies and other such items. Also, get handkerchiefs, they are important in this fight as Elderwyrm likes to use oil on you. Tiamat I personally thought was pretty easy, atleast compared to elderwyrm. If you can handle Elderwyrm Tiamat will be no problem. There’s a save crystal immediately before Elderwyrm so if you get in the fight and die quickly, then you can leave and level up your party.
Agent0042
02-07-2007, 03:48 AM
You can’t fight Elder Wyrm before Tiamat — remember, barriers blocking your path because you don’t have Lente’s Tear.
forevercloud
02-07-2007, 03:58 AM
Oh right, I forgot the order of that, it’s been a while.
the guy watching you
02-07-2007, 08:48 AM
do i have to beat the seer mark in order to unlock the behemothking mark?
and omega>yiazmat?
DeathShining
02-07-2007, 11:40 AM
Im not sure about seer and behemothking, but you have to at least accept the Yiazmat hunt to make OmegaMarkXII active.
forevercloud
02-07-2007, 01:11 PM
About the Behemoth King And Seer Mark, the answer is no. You can do Behemoth King first of The Seer. I did Behemoth King before I even accepted the Seer. To get the Behemoth King to show up you need to clear both maps in the Feywood outside of Giruvegan, but I know that’s been discussed thoroughly in here already.
Agent0042
02-07-2007, 05:28 PM
Hey, for those who are after a Ribbon, I got one in what I’m pretty sure was just a random treasure chest in the Abyssal in the Pharos and I didn’t even have Diamond Armlet equipped. Really helped against the Shadowseer.
Revaninja
02-07-2007, 05:39 PM
On the second Level right? If so I have heard about that one.
Agent0042
02-07-2007, 05:44 PM
No, on the Abyssal level.
Revaninja
02-07-2007, 06:10 PM
The third level then
Penumbra-first
Umbra-second
Abyssal-Third
Just to clear things up
Agent0042
02-07-2007, 07:30 PM
Right. Third level, Abyssal. A random chest as far as I could tell, though I could be wrong.
Ubernoob
02-07-2007, 10:11 PM
Well, elderwyrm is a tough boss. He throws lots of status effects at you. My guess is the fight can be done at that level, I was a little higher though definitely. My main party was about 32 if I remember correctly. You’re going to need to set up gambits to esuna, if you have it?, or remedies and other such items. Also, get handkerchiefs, they are important in this fight as Elderwyrm likes to use oil on you. Tiamat I personally thought was pretty easy, atleast compared to elderwyrm. If you can handle Elderwyrm Tiamat will be no problem. There’s a save crystal immediately before Elderwyrm so if you get in the fight and die quickly, then you can leave and level up your party.
Thanks to the both of you ๐
I’ve got Esuna for 3 of my characters and alot of Hankerchiefs and Phoenix Down.
I’m going to attempt to get through this and I’ll tell you how I do
thanks again ๐
kotlet
02-07-2007, 11:30 PM
hey im on mjern quest i got vaan lv 32 fran lv 31 and basche lv 32 im wndering where can i meet this mjern or what eva it is .. plz help where i can find it/her…. thx
forevercloud
02-08-2007, 01:28 AM
I’m pretty sure ribbon is supposed to be found in Abyssal. I’m not positive on that one, and don’t know if it can be gotten more than once.
As for you, Kotlet, if you’re first entering Golmore Jungle than you must go to the Eruyt village. The home of the Viera. You get there by approaching the northern magickal barrier in the Golmore Jungle. Now if you were already there and are searching for her you must exit the Jungle in the direction of Ozmone Plain. Two guards will be there, you must help them out and give them a potion and they will let you borrow the chocobo. You then ride the Chocobo to the immediate left upon reentering the Ozmone Plain. This will take you down the secret chocobo path towards Henne Mines. You must then navigate your way through Henne Mines. There are faqs about how to get through here, it’s nothing too difficult. Once you make it through, you meet up with Mjrn in a somewhat altered state of being. You’ll see when you get there, be ready for a fight there against Tiamat though.
kotlet
02-08-2007, 04:38 AM
thx bro
Syn_904
02-10-2007, 01:01 PM
Does FFXII have a world map like 7, 8 & 9?
Hated how it was taken out of 10
The Undying.
I can survive his massive blows but he has no god damn health bar!
What the fuck do I do? x(
Does FFXII have a world map like 7, 8 & 9?
Hated how it was taken out of 10
It does you can access it by pressing triangle and then it should be towards the bottom of the list.
Syn_904
02-10-2007, 02:55 PM
It does you can access it by pressing triangle and then it should be towards the bottom of the list.
I don’t mean just viewing it, i meant being able to actually run around the world instead of just selecting what destination you what to travel to from a list like on FFX ๐
BeneHaElohim
02-10-2007, 04:04 PM
No
Does anyone know how to beat Vayne after he combines with Venat?
Known as "The Undying"
He doesn’t have a health bar. x_O
Agent0042
02-10-2007, 06:18 PM
Just fight him like you would any other opponent. Just because he doesn’t have a health bar doesn’t mean he’s invincible. Just keep hacking away.
tiberiusking
02-10-2007, 10:43 PM
is final fanstasy VII is a fun game to play?
FF 7 is the best game EVER
tiberiusking
02-10-2007, 11:27 PM
whoever, i really need some tips on fighting ultima,I just got done fighting and if i would of attacked one more time she would have died,any ideas
Syn_904
02-11-2007, 12:09 AM
No
Shame. Was a good way of adding secrets and extras.
tiberiusking
02-11-2007, 12:29 AM
never mind about the Ultima buisness, i beat her
Agent0042
02-11-2007, 01:20 AM
FF 7 is the best game EVER
LOL. I wouldn’t recommend saying that anywhere else on here unless you want some serious flaming.
Regarding your question in the Forum Charter thread, yes, there is a higher rank than Knight of the Round. I’m pretty sure the details on that have been mentioned in this thread, if you read over it.
Edit — Okay, simple yes/no question — is it possible to break HP / damage limit for characters (not counting espers) in this game. By break limit, I mean attack / HP greater than 9,999.
tiberiusking
02-11-2007, 05:19 AM
i should know soon with the bubble belt, i have like 9000 HP with it so it shouldnt take long to find out
(sorry but this isnt a yes or no awnsere
Just FYI, for those seeking Death Powder for their Ultima Blade, you can chain Bogeys in Zertinan. You don’t have to poach them.
I just LOVE IT when strategy guides are wrong >:O
Hynad
02-11-2007, 08:35 AM
Edit — Okay, simple yes/no question — is it possible to break HP / damage limit for characters (not counting espers) in this game. By break limit, I mean attack / HP greater than 9,999.
Yes, it is possible to break the HP limit. But the game wont display a number higher than 9999. If your HP is 5700 and you equip a bubble belt or cast bubble on you, You’ll end up having 11400 HP. You’ll notice it when your character gets hit by 1000 and your HP still displays a 9999.
Agent0042
02-11-2007, 08:35 AM
I noticed that the second Bestiary page for that monster does mention Death Powder, so that makes sense.
Hynad — fascinating. I do have one character now that has enough HP to have over 9,999 with Bubble, but because it’s only a little over, I didn’t notice that. That’s weird that it doesn’t display properly — in both X and X-2 you can break the HP limit and it will properly show.
tiberiusking
02-11-2007, 03:31 PM
AGENT—yeah ff 10 was cool for that, i got 99999 HP there, but sadly, we let my brothers friend borrow it last christmas and i havent seen it since
i found a letter in the henna mines that said a miner hid his treasure at the "tip of the four", any ideas on what this means?
Look at the map for Henne and find an area that looks like a 4, roughly. I believe it is called the Special Charter Shaft or is near it. Check the map to be sure. Search that area for his stash, which is 3 Bacchus’s Wines and 2 Megalixers.
forevercloud
02-11-2007, 06:06 PM
Actually, if you have broken the hp limit and you select one of your characters it will display it out of 9999. Such as 12,500/9999. And you may also notice it when casting arise on somebody equipped with a bubble belt.
tiberiusking
02-11-2007, 08:42 PM
Look at the map for Henne and find an area that looks like a 4, roughly. I believe it is called the Special Charter Shaft or is near it. Check the map to be sure. Search that area for his stash, which is 3 Bacchus’s Wines and 2 Megalixers.
thanks, but its not too much of a four if you ask me
Hynad
02-11-2007, 11:38 PM
forevercloud: what the hell are you saying? The display WONT display a 12 000/9999. If you have 12000 HP it will still be displayed as a 9999 HP but will take over 2000 damage for it to drop below this. Unless you’re playing on a different version than the US one and this was changed, your last claim is totally false.
forevercloud
02-11-2007, 11:45 PM
Um well maybe if you read it correctly. Target one of your own characters, and I forget if you need to have libra equipped or not but in the little box that displays who you’ve targeted it will display their hp as higher than 9999 if you have bubble or bubble belt. On the little display that shows all of your characters it will still say 9999 though.
Hynad
02-12-2007, 12:02 AM
yeah, I think now it’s more accurate. I guess it wasn’t really clear the first time.
forevercloud
02-12-2007, 12:03 AM
I apologize, I was kind of unspecific when I said how it displays their health.
tiberiusking
02-12-2007, 11:55 AM
i was wandering if there is another way to get the diamond amlet than from Phon Coast, i heard there was a monster that droped them but i dont know which one or were the monster is?
OysterHead
02-14-2007, 05:18 AM
i just got these fire elemented arrows and i was wondering if it did less damage on fire types on the same damage as a regular arrow
Agent0042
02-14-2007, 05:36 AM
Diamond Armlet? I’m pretty sure I got one simply as a Bazaar item, but heck if I remember what items were needed to make it. I think I may have also gotten one in a treasure.
And yes, fire element would do less damage on a fire enemy, or it might even absorb it. Generally, you want to go for the opposite element of whatever what you’re facing is strong at, or just use Libra to see the weakness.
OysterHead
02-14-2007, 07:11 AM
one more question, how exactly do i use libra?
Hynad
02-14-2007, 07:17 AM
Libra gives you info on the monsters when you fight them (in the top-left corner of the screen), and it lets you see the many traps in each areas. To use it, you either use the technik, or equip a Bangle on one of the character. If you equip the bangle, the effect will be on as long as it is equipped and the character wearing it is on your active party.
Is the weather in Ozmone fixed to Idyllic on your first visit? I can’t make it cloudy for the life of me. I’m zoning from Giza AND Golmore, and it just isn’t happening.
I need it for Sylphi Entites, obviously, and Bull Croc & Aeros.
Also, I’m filling in my humanoid bestiary entries (i.e., Garifs, at the moment) and I’m curious if the Bangaa Pugilist in the Estersand, near the Mosphoran entrance, respawns. Rabanastre Watch Bangaas obviously don’t count.
DeathShining
02-14-2007, 10:37 AM
About the diamond armlet, you can buy these from the merchant in the southbank village in the estersand, they go for 20000 a peice. Im not sure at what point in the game they become available though, probably the same as the golden axe.
Where do you find the "item that lets you understand cockatrices"? I do believe it is called a magick feather but I’m not sure. I’ve looked everywhere and one of the people in the Giza said it’s in the Giza Plains but I haven’t been able to find it. It would be helpful for the Center of Archades and also for Jahara. Help would be appreciated.
tiberiusking
02-14-2007, 01:06 PM
in Giza, you have to knock down all the trees in the rains, then go to the bottom right of Gizaand there will be a bridge of trees, go across it and go to the southern-most point on the map
tiberiusking
02-14-2007, 01:09 PM
About the diamond armlet, you can buy these from the merchant in the southbank village in the estersand, they go for 20000 a peice. Im not sure at what point in the game they become available though, probably the same as the golden axe.
i dont know how, bt mysteriously one just pooppedup on my accesories list a couple of day ago, i think something in the Henne mines dropped it, thats the only place i’ve been for the past week
Agent0042
02-14-2007, 06:31 PM
The device to talk to the cockatrices is the Feather of the Flock. If you’ve already defeated the Gil Snapper, then you’ve already been to that area. If so, then just go back to the Tracks of the Beast during the rains in Giza — it’s in an urn there. If you haven’t been, then follow tiberius’s steps to get there. And tiberius, for the love of Pete — you can edit a previous post if you have something else to add.
How do you get to the Tracks of the Beast, I can’t find that area either. I know it’s in the Plains during the Rains but where?
Agent0042
02-14-2007, 09:54 PM
If it’s not showing up, then you probably haven’t felled all the trees that you need to. It’s in the area just after the save crystal where the petitioners are. Once you’ve felled all the trees, there’s a secret path that opens up.
Seriously — if that’s not enough info, GameFAQs. They’ve got plenty of tips and maps there that should help you find it. Oh, and I’m pretty sure the exact locations for the trees you need to go after are posted somewhere earlier in this thread.
tiberiusking
02-14-2007, 10:25 PM
The device to talk to the cockatrices is the Feather of the Flock. If you’ve already defeated the Gil Snapper, then you’ve already been to that area. If so, then just go back to the Tracks of the Beast during the rains in Giza — it’s in an urn there. If you haven’t been, then follow tiberius’s steps to get there. And tiberius, for the love of Pete — you can edit a previous post if you have something else to add.
you cant edit and add in a quote response though, right
Agent0042
02-15-2007, 12:03 AM
You can edit and add in whatever you want. Or have you not heard of cut and paste?
tiberiusking
02-15-2007, 05:46 PM
ive heard of cut and paste!!!!
Agent0042
02-15-2007, 06:05 PM
Well, good. Then all you have to do is select the quoted material, cut it, and paste it into edit. Or copy it as the case may be and just type the BBCode yourself.
To answer my own questions (for anyone else wondering the same):
The weather in Ozmone does appear to be fixed to clear skies on your first visit. As soon as I gained control of Giza’s weather, I was able to make Ozmone cloudy almost instantaneously during Giza’s Dry.
The Bangaa in the Estersand, near Mosphoran, does re-spawn but is just as annoying to farm as the Garif in Ozmone’s Greensnake area.
Agent0042
02-17-2007, 11:55 PM
Weather in Ozmone — oh, definitely. It wouldn’t work, plotwise, if it wasn’t set to clear skies automatically the first time you go there.
Bangaa / Garif — not sure what you mean by "farming" them?
Oh, I just meant filling in the bestiary entry. I understand them wanting to make it suspenseful in the stories associated with humanoid entries, but just tell me I need 8 and be done with it, instead of 2, 1, 3, 2.
Agent0042
02-18-2007, 02:04 AM
Huh? You can get a bestiary on those? When I attacked and killed that Bangaa, the damage showed as red and the Combat Log read "Rabanastre Watch has fallen." Unless you’re talking about some other Bangaa that I’m not aware of?
Revaninja
02-18-2007, 02:09 AM
Yeah he his there are some Banaga Seeq and Garif that show up in the enemy box. Like Banaga Pitate thief etc. They fill in your Monster list I found Banaga Pirates at Cobbi stepe entrance to the Uplands on a sunset to help some people know idea if those are their only spawn spot/requirments I have only run into them once and claimed my List entry and never bothered to completly fill the Second Page entry.
Agent0042
02-18-2007, 02:10 AM
Thanks! That’s good info, I’ll make sure to get that for mine.
Filling in the humanoids (outside of the various Imperials and Baknamy) is a pain. Like I said before, only some of them actually count. For example the Rabanastre Watch Bangaas (like you said) and Cheif Supinelu don’t count, which is a shame since they re-spawn faster than the ones that do.
The Garif you want is in Greensnake, and one Bangaa shows up in the Estersand as noted above.
They all have 5 page entries, and they fill in progressively. When you kill one, it says you need one more (for a total of 2), when you get the second, you open the first page of the additional entry. Then it progresses through needing 1, then 3, and finally 2 to unlock the other pages. The stories are actually a little interesting as I am pretty sure the ones from Uritan-Yensas and Garifs are referring to the origins of Omega and Yiazmat, respectively.
Agent0042
02-18-2007, 02:41 AM
Yeah, I’ve filled in the Urutan-Yensa, the Baknamy, and the Seeq. The first two are both very easy to fill in — the Seeq aren’t too bad because you can get two of the Cataran in the Mosphoran Highwaste, but they don’t always show up.
I just beat Tiamat, but I got a wild hair and decided I was going to try and grab the Zodiac spear. Well, I did. Do you know if this changes anything storywise? I can’t think of any reason right off hand.
I can keep it and go about my business, or I can just get it "when I should" since I made a seperate save file. I’m just kinda paranoid, you know me.
Agent0042
02-18-2007, 02:51 AM
Change anything storywise? Nah, no way. Heading in that direction that early in the game is just a nice little bonus built into the game. It doesn’t change anything story-wise. Congrats, and enjoy having the use of a terribly-awesome weapon that early in the game.
P.S.: Assuming and hoping at least one of your characters is Licensed to use it. If not, well, yeah, start learning.
Thanks! Yeah, I actually made a list of required Loot soon after I started the game, and I’ve been collecting as I go. It’s pretty amazing what you can get early if you know what you need right off the bat. Notably, Arcturus and the Scorpion Tail, along with a handful of the strongest ammunitions/bombs. Plus, it’ll certainly save me time later, as I’ve already got a nice portion of the ingredients for the Tournesol.
Also, I recommend getting the Theif’s Cuffs after Raithwall, so you can steal your High Arcana from the Espers. Save serpentarius, the zodiac gems are easy to get otherwise, so you might as well take advatage of not having to synthesize High Arcanas.
Edit: Full boards for all Agent ๐
Agent0042
02-18-2007, 04:09 AM
Holy canoli. What’s your current playing time?
Agent0042
02-18-2007, 04:42 AM
ROTFL. Mine is something around 105 hours, and I’m at the end of the game, every hunt except Yiazmat completed, all of the espers obtained and most the Bestiary and Sky Pirate’s Den taken care of.
Well, to each their own way of playing the game, I suppose.
Yeah, I was thinking about Reva’s time, and now that I’ve heard yours, I am definitely wondering what’s going on. I mean I know grocery shopping for loot takes a while, but I’m still kinda wierded out by the discrepancy. I mean, I don’t leave it idle for extended periods of time or anything. Oh well, whatever. Halcyon hunting usually takes the most time.
Speaking of which, I’m pretty convinced that the reason the Salamand Halcyon is available in the July side-quest is because the slow-down in the Primary Tank Complex is INSANE.
Agent0042
02-18-2007, 05:11 AM
It’s because you’re chasing after items and doing level up and stuff way early in the game. Considering how easy the bosses are generally, I just don’t see the point of crazy level-up, except for Mark hunting and a few other things, I just saved a lot of the sidequest and character build-up until the end of the game.
For goodness sake, at where you are right now, I don’t think Embroidered Tippet is even available yet, and I don’t even see the point of leveling up without that — it gives you double EXP!
Trust me, at this point, I’m not going out of my way to level. It just happens while I’m loot hunting. One of my goals it to have every piece of equipment–that takes a fair amount of synthesizing, as you know. Being this strong is just a consequence of that decision. Finding materials for synthesis has always been one of my favorite things in FFs, so I don’t have any qualms about it or fear of burning out.
DeathShining
02-18-2007, 07:08 PM
Yeah to have every peice of equipment in the game will take alot of loot, im going for this in my game as well but ive come accross a problem.
Its the ninja swords, it says in the gamefaq’s weapon guide the Iga Blade is found in the Sochen cave palace as a treasure, but i found a koga blade. Now it says the koga blade is from the cockatrice sidequest, so i thought i might receive an Iga Blade instead, but i got another Koga Blade. So i have 2 Koga Blades and no Iga Blade.
Which treasure in sochen has the Iga Blade, i thought it was the 1 behind the door, you know the 1 where you have to change the course of the waterfalls. But thats where i found the Koga Blade, if its this treasure, will it respawn? If not, which treasure is it, anyone????
According to the official guide, it’s the same chest, and it isn’t re-spawnable. 50% chance for Iga, 50% for Koga. It could be wrong, it has been before. Also, that is the only way to get it, again according to the guide.
Revaninja
02-18-2007, 07:18 PM
Okay your guide is telling the truth about the Blade. The problem is it is a 50-50 chest with one being Iga and the other being Koga. I don’t know if the chest respawns but you could try again or if you have a save before you found it go back to it then just keeping trying to get it. Most treasure chest will respawn if you go 3 zones from that area but bewarned monsters respawn at 2 zones so be prepared.
EDIT-I was typing mine when Knegative posted so sorry.
DeathShining
02-18-2007, 07:27 PM
If i knew about this god knows how many hours ago i would have done the reload the save game before thing, and kept on trying till i received the Iga Blade.
Will see if the treasure respawns though, damn! I have been through their since and not seen any treasure. I wanted to have 1 of everything, was’nt botherd about how long it takes.
Thanks for the info people!
BeneHaElohim
02-20-2007, 02:07 AM
Quick question for folks that have done the Hunter’s Camp thing in the Phon Coast: I found a list of what items become available for sale based on how many trophies you bring to each Bangaa, and I thought that Holy Motes at 150 gil each sounded like a steal, so that’s what I was going to shoot for. What I’m wondering is, can you purchase as many as you like, anytime you like, or can you only buy a limited number of each item?
Revaninja
02-20-2007, 03:11 AM
You can Buy READ ONE. That is it you get one item for your hard work and most of them it is easier to Bazaar or just wait till you can buy.
BeneHaElohim
02-20-2007, 03:31 AM
You can Buy READ ONE…
I’m deducing from that response that you mean one can purchase only one of each item (not sure what you mean by READ ONE – checked the first page of this thread, and while it hinted at relevance to the topic of my question it didn’t answer it)? If so, does this apply to every item?
Revaninja
02-20-2007, 03:37 AM
Yes that is why I said Read ONE. You can only purchase one of each item and you don’t even get to know what it is the description is like ‘A Really good spear’ etc. So you can get some good stuff early its just really not worth except in one area if you go to Arcadia to the garden where you need the Sandlewood Chop there is in the back area a group of men talk to them and they will tell you they are the Backers for the Hunt club hunters. They will then each time you talk to them with a Ceratin number of trophies given to the Hunters they will give you 2 different types of Zodiac stones you can get all 12 this way. Very handy if one is having trouble getting all of them.
BeneHaElohim
02-20-2007, 04:10 AM
Yes that is why I said Read ONE. You can only purchase one of each item and you don’t even get to know what it is…
Right, I’ve been giving all my trophies to Stok, and the Outfitter’s wares are all listed as "Sundry items" – no description, no help.
the description is like ‘A Really good spear’ etc…
From the sounds of things, I’d say you’re giving your trophies to Atak, so I’m wondering if items such as weapons, armour, accessories, etc. are a one time purchase (the two sundry items I can buy now are Thief’s Cuffs and Steel Ployens (sp?) which are one time purchases), but I wonder if actual inventory items like the Holy Mote and Reflectga Mote are repeatable items? Do you know about/have any experience with these?
They will then each time you talk to them with a Ceratin number of trophies given to the Hunters they will give you 2 different types of Zodiac stones you can get all 12 this way…
Zodiac stones? All 12? Sorry, new to me – what are these used for?
Revaninja
02-20-2007, 04:23 AM
Zodiac stone is Tarus Gem, Gemni Gem, Libra gem, and so forth you sell them at the Market and it helps you get some of the better equipment like you need 3 Serpantirus, the 13th Zodiac where the sun is, for Tournesol. There are others.
As for the Sundry I don’t know but I think it will stay true to form though so I think you will only get one item for each one. Also in case if you don’t know the Outfitter that sells the stuff is Looking at the 3 lizard brothers to the right next to some crates nearby.
I remember Agent saying that we can’t successfully direct link to GameFaqs guides, so I’ll just highly recommend looking up the XII page and all the guides written by Sephirosuy. He has been an invaluable help with the maps he has created and especially (for me) his Bazaar/Loot and Rare Game FAQs.
The Zodiac gems are used mostly to synthesize some of the more powerful ammos, and notably the Sagittarius Bow, the Scorpion Tail Hammer, and the Stoneblade. Also, if you’ve been neglecting your hunts they can net you a Nihopalaoa and a Cat-Ear Hood.
The canonical gems can be stolen from several different enemies each, with relative ease if you equip your Thief’s Cuffs. The all-important serpentarius gems have to be synthesized, stolen from Zodiark, or gained as a reward for controlling all the espers.
Revaninja
02-20-2007, 04:54 AM
Well actually Serpentariurs is canonical its location is the postion of the Sun but sense XIII is considered an unlucky number most people don’t like to talk about it.
It comes from the Legend that a Serpeant eats the Sun every night and a warrior beats it out in the Morn hence why we have bloody sunsets and rises. Myths are fun little things to read.
You’re right. I used it just to make the distinction between what the person of the street thinks of when you say "zodiac" and what it actually entails, my bad. And you actually mentioned it in the post above mine, my bad x2.
Revaninja
02-20-2007, 05:17 AM
No prob.
Agent0042
02-20-2007, 05:19 AM
Knegative, you’re right, GameFAQs actually has blocking software in place to prevent just that because they got tired of people doing it — I would suspect probably because the FAQ pages themselves are just text and therefore don’t have any advertising. So you can imagine the problem it would cause if direct-linking to them were possible. What you can do, though, is link to the GameFAQs FFXII page (I actually have it linked in the Forum Charter) and then direct people to specific authors (as you did) or FAQs.
DeathShining
02-20-2007, 11:09 AM
Yes that is why I said Read ONE. You can only purchase one of each item and you don’t even get to know what it is the description is like ‘A Really good spear’ etc. So you can get some good stuff early its just really not worth except in one area if you go to Arcadia to the garden where you need the Sandlewood Chop there is in the back area a group of men talk to them and they will tell you they are the Backers for the Hunt club hunters. They will then each time you talk to them with a Ceratin number of trophies given to the Hunters they will give you 2 different types of Zodiac stones you can get all 12 this way. Very handy if one is having trouble getting all of them.
You dont have to hand over your trophies to the hunters to receive gems from the backers, you just have to have them in your key items. So if you want gems, but want to find out what you get for selling certain trophies to certain bangaa’s when you have them all you can do. Im going to do this when i have all trophies, theirs probably a list out their somewhere anyway but i hav’nt found one. Anyone know if their is one, i have tried gameFAQ’s but no joy.
I have the lists from the official guide. I’ll be glad to post them soon (read: Thursday). Grad school has my soul for the next two days. If anyone else has them, by all means.
real life beckens ๐
Edit: Here we go. Never let it be said I can’t multitask ๐
Atak (Weapon Procurer)
Trophy Item Cost
1 Kogarasumaru 5040
5 Obelisk 6750
10 Murasame 7650
15 Diamond Sword 11250
20 Deathbringer 14400
25 Gastrophetes 18900
30 Gungnir 25500
Stok (Sundries Procurer)
1 Thief’s Cuffs 2700
5 Steel Poleyns 900
10 Winged Boots 450
15 Indigo Pendent 4500
20 Diamond Armlet 18000
25 Reflectga Mote 270
30 Holy Mote 150
Blok (Protectives Procurer)
1 Demon Mail 4410
5 Diamond Armor 6300
10 Mirror Mail 7290
15 Gaia Gear 8370
20 Dragon Mail 11250
25 Magepower Shishak 13500
30 Maximillian 25500
Sorry if there’s a way to make a table here. Let me know and I’ll gladly re-do it.
Rexomaru
02-22-2007, 12:32 AM
I have the lists from the official guide. I’ll be glad to post them soon (read: Thursday). Grad school has my soul for the next two days. If anyone else has them, by all means.
real life beckens ๐
Edit: Here we go. Never let it be said I can’t multitask ๐
Atak (Weapon Procurer)
Trophy Item Cost
1 Kogarasumaru 5040
5 Obelisk 6750
10 Murasame 7650
15 Diamond Sword 11250
20 Deathbringer 14400
25 Gastrophetes 18900
30 Gungnir 25500
Stok (Sundries Procurer)
1 Thief’s Cuffs 2700
5 Steel Poleyns 900
10 Winged Boots 450
15 Indigo Pendent 4500
20 Diamond Armlet 18000
25 Reflectga Mote 270
30 Holy Mote 150
Blok (Protectives Procurer)
1 Demon Mail 4410
5 Diamond Armor 6300
10 Mirror Mail 7290
15 Gaia Gear 8370
20 Dragon Mail 11250
25 Magepower Shishak 13500
30 Maximillian 25500
Sorry if there’s a way to make a table here. Let me know and I’ll gladly re-do it. OOOOOOO this seems like some useful info, i’m gonna go give it a try. Thnx
No problem, Rexo. Welcome to the Shrine.
Agent0042
02-22-2007, 04:10 AM
This is a good list, but does it mean it’s not possible to make it up to the max for all of them? Because there are only 80 rare game and only some of them seem to drop trophies. Unless it’s possible to get the same trophy more than once?
Revaninja
02-22-2007, 04:40 AM
No Agent you only get one trophy because that Rare game shows up only once per game. So yes Pick what you want to get and stick with it I am currently working on the weapons list and I screwed up by accident so I can’t get the last item.
Agent0042
02-22-2007, 05:04 AM
Thanks, Reva! I’m still fairly early on in my rare game hunting, so now that I know what to do, I’ll make my choice and stick with it.
P.S. — There aren’t any unique items on there, are there? As far as I can tell, all of the armor at least, I think you can get elsewhere.
Revaninja
02-22-2007, 05:33 AM
Yep easier to just Bazaar them or wait till they become avabile in game plot wise. The only really gems are the Zodiac gems-sorry couldn’t resist- since gems like Virgo can be rare and hard to get but not impossible so it is really up to you on your choices. Its more bragging right and Monster list fill then anything they just threw in the items to make it worth your while to Rare hunt is all.
PS the once per game only applies to the Rare with trophy none trophy will show up again if you match the crietra right.
Hynad
02-22-2007, 07:09 AM
I heard somewhere that once you’ve completed this side-quest, it is possible to start again from the beginning and hunt the 30 rare games that drops the trophies again.
Revaninja
02-22-2007, 07:59 AM
Huh? Where did you hear that? I have never run across that one before nor am I in any place to confirm it. Werid truly the first time I have seen that.
DeathShining
02-22-2007, 10:47 AM
Thanks for the list knegative.
Dont know what i’ll do with the trophies now though i already have everything on their, I was hoping for something i dont have.
No problem, everyone. There had to be a reason for getting the guide other than a Penelo cover ๐
So, is talking to the Viera for the Fafnir hunt the only way to get a Blizzard in Paramina? Yes, I’m asking because of my Entite fetish. I just entered Parmina (haven’t been to Bur-Omisace or even explored yet) so I haven’t played with the weather, if this is an obviously stupid question.
Edit: Reva, Gungnir may still be within your grasp:
2= Mystletainn
Drops – Golem ………… Feywood
Steal – Juggernaut ……. Feywood (rare mosnter)
Poach – Golem ………… Feywood
2= Ketu Board
Drops – Cassie ……….. Ridorana Cataract
Steal – Dr. Cid ………. Pharos at Ridorana (boss)
*might get other items.
2= Broken Spear
Drops – Skull Warrior …. Tomb of Raithwall
Poach – Fideliant …….. Dalmasca Westersand (rare monster)
Again, thank Sephirosuy for this info.
Revaninja
02-22-2007, 05:43 PM
Oh I already got it I just meant I can’t complete the list I made it long before I discovered the hunt club.
As for your question on the Blizzard no it happens normally the Fafnir hunt just makes it easier. Just go from places like Stilshrine or the Mt into the rift back and forth until you get a blizzard. You can tell it is a Blizzard when you get a heavy snow fall and a foggy foreground that blocks sight your map will be your best tool.
I was just making sure, Reva. That info may help someone decide which procurer to back. And thanks for the weather information. If there is one thing that isn’t addressed in the official guide, it’s the weather changes.
DeathShining
02-22-2007, 09:14 PM
Try entering from feywood, you will get a blizzard if you keep trying, i noticed and i said in other threads that blizzards appear more if you enter from feywood, well im pretty sure anyway. Plus theirs an entite in that area just a bit further on from where the yeti normally is when theirs no blizzard.
Leshach Entite without a blizzard? Sweet. I haven’t played since Monday, I’ll remedy that tonight.
Revaninja
02-22-2007, 10:35 PM
Those aren’t entites but rather Elements. I have never run into an Entite without a Blizzard in the rift but I have run into Elements without one.
I had a feeling, Reva. But, let’s ask Deathshining, just in case.
DeathShining, did you mean elementals? The elementals are little amorphous balls of their respective elements. Entites are large, strictly circular spheres.
I’m not trying to be condescending, just want to clear up the mix-up if there is one. I mean, it is "possible". Salamand Entites show up when the weather is clear in Ogir-Yensa, as opposed to when there is a sandstorm there, but like you said Reva, I’ve never seen an entite, save Salamand, without the concomitant weather phenomenon.
Edit: Deathshining must have meant elementals. Entites only showed during Blizzards. They were handy for some impromptu leveling. Sorry Agent, I’m doing it again ๐
Anyone know how to get the cab working in the Center of Archadia after you get the cockatrice to go away.
DeathShining
02-28-2007, 11:53 AM
I had a feeling, Reva. But, let’s ask Deathshining, just in case.
DeathShining, did you mean elementals? The elementals are little amorphous balls of their respective elements. Entites are large, strictly circular spheres.
I’m not trying to be condescending, just want to clear up the mix-up if there is one. I mean, it is "possible". Salamand Entites show up when the weather is clear in Ogir-Yensa, as opposed to when there is a sandstorm there, but like you said Reva, I’ve never seen an entite, save Salamand, without the concomitant weather phenomenon.
Edit: Deathshining must have meant elementals. Entites only showed during Blizzards. They were handy for some impromptu leveling. Sorry Agent, I’m doing it again ๐
No sorry it was the way i typed the words, i did mean the entites not the elementals, but i meant that the entite shows up where the yeti is, but when theirs a blizzard not when theirs no blizzard. I messed up on the post sorry for any misleading claims and confusion.
Darthnicolas
02-28-2007, 12:30 PM
anyone knows where exactly can i find the hunted wyvern lord?
it says a whole region and i’m a bit bored to search through lower lvl mobs :/
tiberiusking
02-28-2007, 12:59 PM
have you talked to the clan guy about it
Darthnicolas
02-28-2007, 02:42 PM
have you talked to the clan guy about it
about the wyvern?
what do you mean speak to montblanc?
i spoke to the petitioner and he said western of the center of nam-yensa…
i’d just want to hear the place by name…
can’t figure out where’s west…
It’s in Simoon Bluff (part of Nam-Yensa). On the last screen before Raithwall’s Tomb, head north instead of West and you will enter an area that is trapped pretty heavily at the entrance. Head up the hill and you’ll find him in the open area.
Edit: No prob, Deathshining
Hynad
02-28-2007, 05:26 PM
Ok, I’m sure this has been discussed in here in some form. I remember reading something about it.
I think it was that in order to make them appear in the Feywood, you have to do the same thing as with the Behemoth King, which is kill all monsters in the Edge of Reason and the Ice Field of Clearsight. Things I did, but for some reason the Mandragora family won’t appear.
Is there anyone here who knows the exact way to make them appear? Because when I did this for the Behemoth King, he appeared on my first attempt. But now, the Mandragoras just won’t appear. Can you help me please?
Darthnicolas
02-28-2007, 06:08 PM
It’s in Simoon Bluff (part of Nam-Yensa). On the last screen before Raithwall’s Tomb, head north instead of West and you will enter an area that is trapped pretty heavily at the entrance. Head up the hill and you’ll find him in the open area.
Edit: No prob, Deathshining
thnxxxxx
one more question plz
how can i get to the white mousse?
it says it’s in west sluice control something but i can’t get there because of waters so how?
there’s something about a sluice key how do i get it?
Revaninja
02-28-2007, 09:03 PM
There is an open path to the right when you enter the White mousse is how you get the key you also have to activate its hunt one of the mogglings moogles is the petioner talk to Montblanc to start it.
Darthnicolas
02-28-2007, 09:33 PM
There is an open path to the right when you enter the White mousse is how you get the key you also have to activate its hunt one of the mogglings moogles is the petioner talk to Montblanc to start it.
i’ve activated it..
but still all exits to west sluice control are overflowed with water…
i thought i needed a key for those devices :/
Revaninja
02-28-2007, 11:32 PM
No I did it you need to just walk around in the area that is not flooded until you find it I know because I did the Thiefs hunt before the Key hunt so I know for a fact you can do it. Look at the circles before the gate controls near the save point if they are lit up the area in line with them is unflooded use that to get passage you should be able to get there from the Intial Gates that are opened you just need to wander around in that area.
Agent0042
03-01-2007, 12:08 AM
Reva is correct. You just need to search carefully for the correct area, you don’t have to mess with any of the controls to get to it, it should be open automatically.
Incidentally, if you’ve already completed the Barheim Passage, there’s an area leading into the Waterway from there and I believe it takes you due where you need to go for this hunt.
I’m 99% sure that in order to use the entrance from Barhiem you have to defeat Zalera, but yes it does put you very close to the right area.
The area you want is available without changing any of the sluice settings, though.
Hynad
03-01-2007, 02:41 AM
Nobody knows the answer to my question?
Revaninja
03-01-2007, 05:03 AM
I do simply clear out both areas where the ruins are that show you the way with an Illusion if you do it right go to the area that has the entrance to the Giruvegan. They run around near the Ruins and usually stay in groups of 2 and bigger you only get one for each of the nobles so you have to go to where you killed the Planet Boss and then back it takes forever and a half but that is how you do it.
Note you must kill EVERY monster in both areas to get the Nobles to show up. I did them after I killed Behemoth King so I know it works.
Darthnicolas
03-01-2007, 09:31 AM
No I did it you need to just walk around in the area that is not flooded until you find it I know because I did the Thiefs hunt before the Key hunt so I know for a fact you can do it. Look at the circles before the gate controls near the save point if they are lit up the area in line with them is unflooded use that to get passage you should be able to get there from the Intial Gates that are opened you just need to wander around in that area.
thnx i wandered a while and i found a passage..
though it was too hard i got beat up and i ended up fleeing..
but i think it’s natural if the monsters in that area are 35+ and my party is 19-29 :/
i should progress the main story be4 i go to higher marks..
Hynad
03-01-2007, 04:35 PM
Thanks Reva. It worked, but the Mandragoras appeared in the Ice Field of Clearsight, not the Edge of Reason. And I add to kill all the monsters in the Ice Field like 3 times before they would appear. There are 31 monsters in the Edge of Reason and 29 in the Ice Field of Clearsight. And I found that these litle beasts can be really nasty if you give them the time. ๐
Revaninja
03-01-2007, 04:48 PM
It helps ALOT if you can kill Monsters in that area with one hit or in a few hits. Monsters start to regenerate after a ceratin time so you have to be fast and perfectionist in order to make it easier.
As for the nobles a really easy way to handle them is Scath plus Headhunter I think it is the one that replenishes magic for kills. I killed all of them in one hit and got back the magic doing the spell took made my life SO much easier. Of course that only works if they stay together which they don’t always do. I once had one of them just outside my spell range by an inch and then he Ran to the next ruin he lead me on a merry chase. Oh well still got him in the end though.
The one thing I hate about is the High Number of kills you have to do for their second page. I mean they have 14 or so needed and we only see one at a time. It would be different if say they were like Cerberus rare but there in some numbers but not what they give us. It is probably the second hardest entry to get besides the Humaniods entry. Humaniod beats them because of how much rarer they are and their huge amount of numbers needed. Entites are below the Nobles because they get descriptions on how to get them and from their its just entering and exisiting till you get them. But the Nobles have no hints and it is a pain to get their show condotions alone. I am glad I only have to do that once per game and that is it.
Hynad
03-01-2007, 05:13 PM
I also used Scathe to kill them off when they were all at the same place. They were getting tougher when they managed to escape. These little brats run faster than our characters so they often had the time to escape, cast some Physical attack nullifiers and then they would end up hitting me with 9000 ish damage! I didn’t get wiped-out fighting them. I just was surprised they would give me this kind of response.
I now completed their entries in the Bestiary. Now all that is left for me to complete the bestiary is find the Bangaas, kill the Magic Pot (because you need Elixirs to get rid of them, I was waiting until the end of the game) and then I have to be lucky and find the 38 Rare Games I haven’t fought yet.
***Please note that I don’t use a guide to play my games, so my game is now nearly at 200 hours of play-time, and there’s still some things left for me to do (like completing the button mashing Run in Balfonheim – of which I’m currently at level 40).
I posted the location of a Bangaa pugilist earlier in this thread (page 12), Hynad. If you’re interested.
Hynad
03-01-2007, 05:52 PM
I might check it out, but I know there is one somewhere in the Phon Coast. Is it the one you’re talking about?
Well now that you’ve asked ๐
My guy is in the Estersand, near the entrance to Mosphoran. The area where you get the valeblossom dew.
Hynad
03-01-2007, 05:59 PM
Thanks a lot! Now the only monsters left for me to unlock are the Magick Pot and Rare games, which should be a pain for someone who doesn’t want to use a guide! (I got some friends who helped me out with some stuff like the Zodiark Spear, but most of the game, I found all the stuff by myself)… Any advice to help me find the rare games?
Also, I heard here there is a trick to activate each Concurrences. That’s one of the last thing I have to do to get every Pirate’s Den entries. Any hints?
There is a concurrence table in this (
Thread 34683) thread. I’m not sure if that violates your "no guide" principle, though.
Otherwise, the only hint I can think to give is that each concurrence relies on a certain number of each level of quickening. E.g., one concurrence requires 4 quickenings of each level [4 lvl 1s, 4 lvl 2s, 4 lvl 3s].
Hynad
03-01-2007, 06:07 PM
Yeah I figured that out. But there’s nothing in the game that tells us what levels you have to use. So I might end up checking this link! ๐
Agent0042
03-01-2007, 06:41 PM
Hynad — I know where the Magick Pots are — okay to tell you?
Hynad
03-01-2007, 06:43 PM
๐ I know as well, they’re in the Pharos Subs. As I said, I was waiting till the end of the game because I have this habit to keep my elixirs till the end. ๐
Agent0042
03-01-2007, 06:46 PM
Oh, don’t worry about the Elixirs. You can steal it back from them. It’s a bit of a pain-in-the-ass, but if you set your top Gambit to Steal, you can get it back within a few minutes. And you can win anything from an Ether to a Megalixir. If your License Board isn’t already full, then equip everyone with Golden Amulet because this monster gives a big bounty of LP. If it is, then there really isn’t much reward for fighting it.
Hynad
03-01-2007, 06:48 PM
I remember the first time I fought them… I ended up fleeing and thought: "Damn, they’ve evolved since FFVII !!!!"
Agent0042
03-01-2007, 06:51 PM
As soon as I see one, I like to turn Gambits off, just to leave nothing to chance. And then try to kill off all enemies around it. The important thing is to just not attack the Magick Pot by accident.
Hynad
03-01-2007, 06:51 PM
The important thing is to just not attack the Magick Pot by accident.
yeah, that’s what i did back then. Are they difficult to beat once you’ve given them an elixir?
Agent0042
03-01-2007, 06:54 PM
Easy as pie for me. They bounce and run around like lightning, but they don’t attack anymore. And they don’t take all that long to kill off either. It’s really just more of a matter of patience if you want to steal back the Elixir.
Hynad
03-01-2007, 06:58 PM
Good, so I should’nt have any problems with my level 99 party! I don’t remember what level I was the first time I battled with them, but I remember I though: Hynad, I think you shouldn’t be here yet. lol
And just a curiosity, are the last concurrences really impressive or are they like the earlier and easier ones (they all look alike, anly one is water, one is rock, one is fire, etc…) Is there any impressive looking concurrence or is it just same old same old?
It’s really all in someone’s perception of aesthetics, but no the "ultimate" concurrence doesn’t look very different from the rest.
Ultimadream
03-01-2007, 07:38 PM
Just a matter of curiousity,does it matter if you kill that Creature of Jahara in the Ozome Plains,he began to attack me so i wiped him out ( ive been to Jaha already before,now at Mt Bur-Omisace)
Never Mind i hink it was just a normal Garif
If he was in the Greensnake area, he counts towards your bestiary. If he was in Haulo Green, it was Warchief Supinelu. Killing him only changes the scene when you enter Jahara for the first time. You’re past that Ultima, so it doesn’t matter either way.
In the main center in Archadia, where the cockatrice is.
I got him to go away using the Feather of the Flock, but now when you go where the cabs are, the dude says their temporarily down.
Agent0042
03-02-2007, 05:25 AM
I could be way off the mark, but I don’t think those cabs ever become available.
Revaninja
03-02-2007, 07:30 PM
Egg can you please repeat that a little more clear. Do you mean cabs in the Garden area or cabs near the Teleport crystal? I don’t understrand which one you mean so rephrase and be more specific on which Cabs you mean and give a general location please. It helps us answer your questions better.
Alright, where are the Nightwalkers in the Stilshrine? I know Negalmuur was originally a nightwalker, but where are the normal ones? (Bestiary entry #102)
Edit/Answer: Clear the shrine, come back and there are two by the waystone.
Once you obtain all the Pinewood chops in Archadia, you can trade them in and obtain the SandalWood chop. When you obtain that when you go to the east side of archadia. I think it’s something like tessenoble or something you can talk to a gil and she asks ou if you have a sandlewood chop. If so you can go up the elevator, to the C’enter" of archadies. Once you exit the elevator if you go to the right you go up a flight of stairs and that is where the cab thing is. If you go to the left there is just another section of central archadia where you can talk to pointless people. And have a great veiw of the city. ๐
Hope I explained it well enough.
Btw. I am around level 70 and still can’t beat the final boss. When Vayne and Venat combine. He doesn’t have a health bar. And I have tried attacking him as Agent said I should but he ends up killing me after aroud 15-20 minutes. :l
I would erally love to finish the game so i can see the final ending cinematic scene but I guess I won’t be for some time. Thanks for all the help.
-Egg
Revaninja
03-03-2007, 09:28 PM
Okay that area never works the only cabs that work are near the Teleport cyrstal. As for the people in the garden you will see a bunch of gentlemen if you have started the Hunt club sidequest you will get stuff from them when you have a Ceratin numbers of trophies obtained they don’t have to be in your inventory you just have to have obtained them is all.
As for Vayne pay attention to what he is doing. He throws up Pailing and Magic shield. Pailing makes him Immune to Physical Damage attack Techs and quickenings fall into this. Magic shield blocks all magic. Switch to the other if he uses Pailing bring up spells if Magic shield attacks. Also bring out your best equipment such as Tournesol if you have it or Zodiac spear such weapons as that to make it go faster. But really just attack and heal is really all you have to do took me at level 73 about 8 minutes or so to bring him done.
Agent0042
03-04-2007, 12:15 AM
What Reva said. Also, remember, this is the final battle!!! Don’t be afraid to pull out everything you have. Use whatever items you want, etc. etc.
xxThe Highwind xx
03-04-2007, 02:29 AM
Hey i just Got the game and im wondering what to do with Earth/Wind/Fire and Water Stones. Should i sell them to Traders or are they usefull later on?
They are very useful for synthesizing items on the bazaar. The list of what they are used for is quite long. Head over to Gamefaqs XII Page (
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/data/459841.html) and look for the Bazaar/Loot guide by Sephirosuy. Sorry, we can’t direct link to Gamefaqs.
Firey Arrows:
4 Fire stones
2 Crooked fangs
Aqua Shot:
5 Water Stones
3 Green Liquids
2 Yensa Scales
Long Bolts:
1 Ice Stone
4 Crooked Fangs
2 Yellow Liquids
I won’t type out anymore, the list is quite large. Check Sephirosuy’s FAQ for all the details. Loot is a very important part of the game, both for making money and synthesizing items.
xxThe Highwind xx
03-04-2007, 01:37 PM
Ok thank You Very Much ๐
pimpedoutgeese
03-04-2007, 05:26 PM
Is there a way to get Zodiac Spear even though you opened the chest… I found out about the chest as I was opening up the 16 on Phon Coast lol
Joey
03-04-2007, 06:49 PM
There was a discussion about this a while ago that I remember. Here let me redirect you.
Thread 35637
A general skim through the pages and you should find an answer.
pimpedoutgeese
03-04-2007, 08:11 PM
Excellent… looks good thanks for the reply Joey
Neo Xzhan
03-05-2007, 02:07 PM
So I has a question. For not knowing all the names though. And hoping that my assumptions are correct.
When ever you kill a Fiend, the exp you recieve is shared throughout your party. So assuming you have 3 people in your party, the exp gets devided three way. Now, because it’s rather hard to solo then to waste everything in your path with three people, I was wondering.
There’s 2 different asseccories concerning exp. You can double the exp, and get no exp at all. So if you equip someone to get no exp, and someone else to get double exp, the exp will be devided to way. Meaning 1,5 times of normal, with double exp 3 times normal exp. Or when you have two people with no exp, you’ll get 3 times normal exp (300 for a kill, 1x 0 exp = 150 per character times 2 for exp double = 300 exp and 150 exp respectively). (300 exp for a kill 2x 0 exp and 1x exp doubler = 600 exp) where as a normal kill (300 exp divided 3 way = 100 exp).
Am I assuming correctly? This would help powerleveling a few characters that I haven’t use all too much. (Party differenct = 20 levels :p).
DeathShining
03-05-2007, 02:27 PM
Dude the exp is not devided by the three active party members EACH party member receives the same amount, so if you kill a monster and receive 3111exp then all three active party members recieve 3111exp each, it is not devided.
The only thing that will change it is if one member has an embroided tippet or a firefly equipped, so a tippet will result in 6222 exp on the character equipped with a tippet, the one’s not equipped with a tippet will receive 3111exp, but the members with the firefly will receive 0 exp. Im sure you already knew that though.
You can see the exp earned by each character in the status menu.
Darkpaw
03-05-2007, 06:23 PM
Just one thing that is really really bothering me…. the people in my party keep attacking each other!
I’m about to cross that sand-sea place, and I have Vaan, Ashe and Basch in my party, and I can’t understand why they’re doing it. They have no status aliments, and I didn’t direct them to do it. If I tell them to do something else, they’ll do it, but then they go back to just attacking each other, or me (as Vaan) until there’s only one left. I’m not sure if this is a glitch or I’m missing something obvious here, but it’s incredibly annoying and I want to know how to stop it. What should I do?
Hynad
03-05-2007, 06:27 PM
can you tell me what your attack gambit is like?
Darkpaw
03-05-2007, 06:29 PM
Ummm…. Ashe has Any<80% cure, I think, then Attack: nearest visible, and I think Basch is the same… Vaan’s aren’t turned on.
Hynad
03-05-2007, 06:33 PM
that’s the first time I’ve seen this happening. Either your gambits are all messed up, or your party is under confuse, or there’s a bug.
Try to clear you gambits and re-do them from scratch and check if it happens again.
Darkpaw
03-05-2007, 06:33 PM
No, sorry, Basche’s is Foe: party leader’s target Attack, but the other is the same. And Ashe’s if Foe: nearest visible Attack. I huess it might just be a bug…it’s annoying. I’ve treated them for confuse but it still happens…
pimpedoutgeese
03-05-2007, 09:38 PM
Sounds like to me its a gambit issue to me…. I would turn all gambits off if you can’t find WHICH gambit is doing that. See if it happens still. Make sure that none off your attack gambits have "ally:" in it… that might be it… but dunno
Could just be a bug ๐
Ultimadream
03-05-2007, 11:10 PM
Hey Im in The Stilshrine of Miriam and im on the bit where you rotate the statue…..so what way do i rotate it and where do i go afterwards?
Help would be deeply appreciated,i need to get back ito the story of FFXII after training for 10 hours ๐
You have to rotate them towards the center of the shrine. For the first one (in the Walk of Prescience), you can see straight down the room into the center chamber with the collossus (big statue with the sword). So turn the statue once, so that it is facing the collossus. The next one (in the Walk of Reason) requires two turns; turning him to the north on your mini-map will get the job done. The final statue is located in the chamber past Vinuskar (in the Ward of Steel). Turn that statue to the West on your mini-map.
After that the Collossus will raise the sword and you will want to head into the Ward of the Sword-King and under the sword.
Edit: Sorry if those are spoilers ๐
Ultimadream
03-05-2007, 11:26 PM
lol well i didnt realise there were 2 :S so you face it so its facing towrads the cnert of the shrine and when the eyes light up pink and the platform the statues on has a line of pink around the figure lighting up,am i
right?
That sounds right to me. But there are 3 statues, not 2.
Ultimadream
03-05-2007, 11:32 PM
ah i see it on the map that i got that should all be dandy now thanks for thee help.
**Ive now done it and im now fighting the boss**
Agent0042
03-06-2007, 02:11 AM
Darkpaw — your issue is really weird. I would definitely recommend Pimped’s advice. If that doesn’t work, start from scratch. Rid all of your characters of Gambits and try again. That’s the only thing I can think of.
Seedle_The_Wicked
03-07-2007, 12:39 AM
how do you create a Durandal? And where can i find a creature w/ orichalcum and a Lv. 99 red chocobo?
I answered the Orichalcum and Durandal questions in your original thread, Seedle and there is a thread about 99 Red linked in the forum charter, if I recall correctly.
Edit: Nope, it isn’t in the forum charter. It’s here (Thread 35174). Don’t post on it though. If you still have questions, ask them here in the Q & A.
HazZen
03-08-2007, 06:48 PM
OK I have a question.
I decided to trek through the Feywood and I got to one area of the map and went in but it wouldn’t let me through. I can’t remember what it said, but something about the mist being too dense through this area for me to advance. How do I get through to this area? What is this area?
Ceidwad
03-08-2007, 06:52 PM
Is there any way at my point in the game to get Ethers quickly and reliably? I’m going through Golmore Jungle and am stuck on the Elder Wyrm. I’m pretty confident I could beat it if I had enough Ethers (I have 2 at the moment) but it would be pretty tedious trekking the Ozmone Plain trying to get enough Ethers. I’d say about 5-6 would be enough. Can you buy them or steal them from enemies in the vicinity?
Is there any way at my point in the game to get Ethers quickly and reliably? I’m going through Golmore Jungle and am stuck on the Elder Wyrm. I’m pretty confident I could beat it if I had enough Ethers (I have 2 at the moment) but it would be pretty tedious trekking the Ozmone Plain trying to get enough Ethers. I’d say about 5-6 would be enough. Can you buy them or steal them from enemies in the vicinity?
You can buy them in the Necrohol. But I doubt you’re leveled to get in and out without a scratch. If you are however, by all means snag the Zodiac Spear if you’re still eligible for it, while you’re at it.
For details on any of this, let me know. Otherwise, you’re not going to be buying ethers ๐
Edit: This will teach me to read more carefully. There is a chest with an ether in the Needlebreak. It respawns. Use that one.
Ceidwad
03-08-2007, 08:26 PM
My levels are about 20-24, so I doubt I could get into the Necrohol. Furthermore, I haven’t been there and don’t know where it is, so that’s a no go unfortunately.
Where is the Needlebreak? Is it anywhere near Ozmone Plains?
Cheers for the help by the way.
My levels are about 20-24, so I doubt I could get into the Necrohol. Furthermore, I haven’t been there and don’t know where it is, so that’s a no go unfortunately.
Where is the Needlebreak? Is it anywhere near Ozmone Plains?
Cheers for the help by the way.
The Needlebreak is the first section of Golmore Jungle. The 3 chests are in the area behind the barriers. You can get through them if you’ve been fighting Elder Wyrm.
pimpedoutgeese
03-08-2007, 10:05 PM
OK I have a question.
I decided to trek through the Feywood and I got to one area of the map and went in but it wouldn’t let me through. I can’t remember what it said, but something about the mist being too dense through this area for me to advance. How do I get through to this area? What is this area?
That’s right before the boss fight in the Feywood… not too sure of the name of it though, has a nasty attack. Um, when I played I kept going even though it said the mist was too dense… then the next thing I know there was a boss fight. Anyone who has time could ya check into that… gotta head to work
So, I’ve been trying to get a Yagyu Darkblade from Bombshell in Lhusu. Now, you can chain him, but it is quite involved and it’s still difficult to me at lvl 67(P)/56. Have any of you guys been chaining to get the following?:
Grand Armor from Helvinek
Grand Helm from Tower
Danjuro from Larva Eater
I’m thinking the best idea is just to put off doing it til everyone is 99. I could pull it off with Bombshell but it’s pretty nervewracking, and I can only chain him to maybe 8 or 9, cause my MP craps out on me eventually.
Agent0042
03-08-2007, 11:56 PM
Mmm, I feel you. Did you ever wish you could just set up like several sets of Gambits and switch them on the fly, to tailor your fighting style based on what type of monsters / bosses you’re facing? That would have been the shit.
Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 12:08 AM
Quick Question:
On Phon Coast at The Vaddu Strand, theres loads of treasure chests,i find this very peculiar,does anyone know if theres a trick to do with these chests like a certain orer you ahev to open them in or leave them to later etc.?
Quick Question:
On Phon Coast at The Vaddu Strand, theres loads of treasure chests,i find this very peculiar,does anyone know if theres a trick to do with these chests like a certain orer you ahev to open them in or leave them to later etc.?
If you want the Zodiac Spear don’t touch a single one of them!!
Edit: Those, as well as two other sets of chests (in Rabanastre Palace and the Confiscatory in Nalbina Dungeons), plus the one in front of Old Dalan’s house are what determine if you get the Zodiac Spear. You cannot have opened any of them if you want the Spear to be in the treasure room of the Necrohol of Nabudis.
There’s a thread about it linked in the forum charter, but I just wanted to get the "don’t touch those" message up as quick as I could, for ya Ultimadream ๐ That is if you haven’t touched the other chests ๐
Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 12:17 AM
I havent touched them boxes i was cat catious about them ,but im not sure about the other 2 locations di they both have 12 treasure chests lined in 4 chests and 4 rows.
Is there a way to check at the moment, ive only just got to the phon coast btw.
Unfortunately, the only way to check is to make a run into the Necrohol, and if you can get in to check it, you might as well escape with it as well.
The 2 chests in Rabanastre palace are near the first area where you enter from Garamsythe; the place with all the servents, etc. The confiscatory is in Nalbina Dungeon where you got your weapons and items back. There were only three chests in there.
Both of those areas are one time visits, so no way to know if you can’t personally remember. Old Dalan’s is the easiest place to know, because everyone I talk to always get so upset when I quiz them about it. That’s always the first one I ask about, and it’s almost always opened.
No one ever said the Zodiac Spear methodology was fair in XII. You have to go against the usual behavior of opening chests, and who’s going to do that if you don’t have a guide right off the bat? There’s always second playthroughs.
Hynad
03-09-2007, 12:32 AM
There’s one chest right in front of Dalan’s place, an other in the Rabanastre Royal Palace (in the crowded room where you get some help to sneak past the guard), one in the Nalbina dungeon (in the room where you get all your stuff back and the last one is at the phon coast.
There’s one chest right in front of Dalan’s place, an other in the Rabanastre Royal Palace (in the crowded room where you get some help to sneak past the guard), one in the Nalbina dungeon (in the room where you get all your stuff back and the last one is at the phon coast.
So the one’s in Rabanastre and Nalbina are really only tied to 1 chest each? The guide says not to touch any of the chests in those areas. Better safe than sorry ๐
Revaninja
03-09-2007, 12:37 AM
Yes because no one is quite too sure which chest does it so they just say don’t touch to save you wasted time.
Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 12:38 AM
i bet i opened the one in Nalbina dungeon meh oh well,i wasnt planning on playing through this game once anyway.
btw where is Necrohol is it a place ive been to before the Phon Coast i havent past the phon coast and i obviously dont want to read spoilers
Sounds right to me, Reva.
So, does anyone know if the "final" room in Lhusu Mines (Site 7) is used for anything? I mean, it’s at the end of the final section, it has a save crystal outside it.
Any relevence?
Edit: Ultima, it’s actually where you just left. Defeat the King Bomb in Salikawood and then you’ll have access to the area leading to the Necrohol.
Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 12:47 AM
Bomb King….. i dont remember seeing a Bomb King Where abouts In Salikawood’s is the Bomb King?
You know where the Teleport Crystal is? Take the Exit right next to it, leading to the Northwest; the one the moogle is standing in front of.
Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 01:02 AM
Ah thats easy,ill just use a Teleport Crystal then ^_^ is it a difficult battle? My characters are around Levels 35 – 45 and are doing very well on the Licence Board ๐
Hmm…well here’s the rub: King Bomb has an annoying special trick up his sleeve.
35-45 should be okay. I did it around 50, if I recall correctly.
If you can’t take him down, just ask us. I think you’ll be able to figure it out though.
Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 01:49 AM
Ive beatten the Bomb King good old Balthier and Mateus
Im in the Necrohol
Revaninja
03-09-2007, 02:29 AM
K- if I remember right and are reading your post right that should be the Gilgamesh fight. Which keys do you have there are two of them one you get from the Elite mark Antlion and then the other after Antlion is complete next to the Fallen Bhujerban Man.
All of the Lhusu mine areas have an Elite Hunt near them Rocktortise in the first, Antlion in the second, and Gilgamesh at the third and final one.
Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 02:37 AM
So Where is this Zodiac Spear in Necrohol
Map of Necrohol (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/459841/45482)
Is it Where it says "16 Special Chests"?
So Where is this Zodiac Spear in Necrohol
Map of Necrohol (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/459841/45482)
Is it Where it says "16 Special Chests"?
That is correct, sir. They are arranged 4 x 4. The spear is the second one up, in the column closest to the door. The rest are Knots of Rust w/o the Diamond Armlet, and Dark Matter with it equipped.
The chance of getting it is 100% w/o the armlet. According to the guide, if you open it with the Armlet you’ll get a Dark Matter. That could be a mistake, but I honestly don’t know.
Interesting Note: When you get the spear the chest in front of Old Dalan’s disappears, while the one’s on the Phon Coast remain. I’m in Phon Coast myself, and I just checked and they are still there.
EDIT: Reva, I’ve got both keys, I have access to the entire mine. I had a feeling it had something to do with Gilgamesh. That hunt’s called Battle on the Big Bridge so I thought it would be on one of the "spans," but I just read that he runs deeper into the mine after your first encounter, so that must be where you finish him off.
Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 03:00 AM
Im right at the 16 chest,i just waled through at paused it…im being chsed be an evil monster so i dotn have much time which chest did you say it was.
Btw whats the sign that the zodiac Spear isnt there,with out checking every chest.
do you mean second row in or 2nd chest from left to right?
Okay, as soon as you enter the "door" you’ll see the first row of chests right in front of you–as you’re entering from the side.
It’s the second one from the left. If you open it and it’s a Knot of Rust, you’ve missed the spear.
Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 03:08 AM
AUURGH it wasnt there! ah well **shruggs shoulders**
Whats this rumour i hear of getting it in The Hennie Mines?
My sincere apologies ๐
There’s still another way to get it. Check the linked thread in the forum charter. It’s a pain in the arse, though. 1% chance. The thread explains that mindbogglingly small percentage.
Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 03:18 AM
Thanks for the Help though its been appreciated
Your a very respectable Member of this forum
Thank you, Ultima ๐
You are as well ๐
Olde
03-09-2007, 06:47 AM
I’ve got a couple questions. What’s the purpose of the Nihapaloah (sp?)? It reverses effects of recovery items, so is it like an all-time Reverse status?
Also, the Cat-ear hood doesn’t seem to raise any speed or celerity for my characters. What does that do, too?
Revaninja
03-09-2007, 07:49 AM
Cat-ear is a constant haste.
While Nihapaloah if you use a remendy on a monster you can afflict every status on the enemy. It changes everything like Blind into a eye drop effect. I also think but I am not sure it can make attacks heal though I am not 100% postive.
Olde
03-09-2007, 07:52 AM
Okay. Thanks. I like that Remedy + Nihapaloah idea.
J. Peterman
03-09-2007, 08:43 AM
Actually, I think the Cat-Ear Hood is just supposed to increase your Speed by 50 and Vitality by 20, which should be a big boost and increase damage from knives and whatever other weapons use speed in factoring in damage.
Pretty sure.
Actually, I think the Cat-Ear Hood is just supposed to increase your Speed by 50 and Vitality by 20, which should be a big boost and increase damage from knives and whatever other weapons use speed in factoring in damage.
Pretty sure.
You’d better believe Penelo is getting one of those badboys when they go on sale at the Clan store. Those statistics are correct Dr. Crane. I can’t speak to whether it actually provides you with auto-haste.
Niho + Remedy & Niho + Phoenix Down are very easy to abuse. You may want to lay off it if you feel like playing it straight. Rare Game are usually immune, though ๐ I haven’t tried it on any bosses.
Remember to switch it out after you hit the enemy. You’ll quickly be suprised at why your entire party is staying dead, even though you’re throwing Phoenix Downs :shock:. It’s easier to forget than you may think.
Neo Xzhan
03-09-2007, 01:18 PM
I messed the Niho + Remedy/Phoenix Down up a few times. Vaan had it during a boss fight (yes bosses are immume to Niho + Phoenix Down, Remedies work depending on what status ailments they are NOT immume to).
I messed the Niho + Remedy/Phoenix Down up a few times. Vaan had it during a boss fight (yes bosses are immume to Niho + Phoenix Down, Remedies work depending on what status ailments they are NOT immume to).
Now, Gil Snapper, he’s special. He’s immune to Niho + Phoenix Down, but Niho + Elixir = Goodbye Gil Snapper. I’ve tried the Elixir trick on other Rare Game as well. No go.
Neo Xzhan
03-09-2007, 01:53 PM
I find the Elixir trick useless, since indeed, only Gil Snapper is affected by it as far as I know up to this point. I find it useless because it’s freaking expensive to throw Elixirs at bosses/fiends in general. They’re too hard to come by to just throw away. Apart from the fact that it’s cheap =).
DeathShining
03-09-2007, 03:50 PM
Actually, I think the Cat-Ear Hood is just supposed to increase your Speed by 50 and Vitality by 20, which should be a big boost and increase damage from knives and whatever other weapons use speed in factoring in damage.
Pretty sure.
You are correct Frasier Crane.
It is Hermes Sandals that gives you haste constantly when equipped not cat ear hood.
Revaninja
03-09-2007, 11:11 PM
Oops my bad sorry about that.
Mr Jack
03-12-2007, 03:09 PM
Ive not been totally devoted to this game since i got it, so bare with me!
I want to know if there is a specific way of defeating the boss on an airship. **Damn – i cant even remeber where i am!!!**
I think i am in an airship, and i have to navigate through a whole bunch of corridors with laser beams across them. But once i get to where im supposed to be, i get killed because my characters are quite weak.
Also – do you get anything special for killchains, i know they improve items, but i got a 50 killchain on this airship and it did pretty much nothing! – and then i died, so ill have to do that all over again!! Damn!.
Hynad
03-12-2007, 03:26 PM
The Cat-ear Hood only improves your speed stat by 50 and your vitality by 20. Which is good to mix with a character under the haste spell…
Add berserk to this… Bravery… and a sword like Tournesol (for damage and the Evasion bonus for the lack of shield) or use a Ninja Sword to create longer combos (although I don’t really like them because they all have the Dark element in them) … and you’re up for some really short boss fights…
Mr Jack: Long kill Chains will improve the loot from the monster you slain. They will end up dropping rarer items. You also get a Sky Pirate’s Den figurine after reaching the 50 mark.
pimpedoutgeese
03-12-2007, 05:49 PM
Um… Airship? You mean before you fight Judge Ghis? If that’s the spot and you have 3 Quickenings, just blast him while the other two Judges are around… should make quick work of the boss if your good at Quickens.
Also I think you answer your own question, if your characters are weak you know what time it is.. meet you at the gym =)
Revaninja
03-12-2007, 05:51 PM
Okay Jack you are on the Leviathan and are facing Ghis. The way to win is first get your characters up to Level 23 or so put in Fran make sure she is level 23 or close to it and slap someone with Nethicite. Equip your best equips for your characters and weapons. Now Fran will start this battle Berserked if you have her with a Bow she can do some serious damage with little Damage to herself. First Target the Guards get rid of them then focous on Ghis Heal and Hack away. That should do it I urge you to set up Ally less than 60% Potion for this battle since Fran can’t cast and neither will your other be able to with the Nethicite.
Also for the Kill chain is best in the Yensa sandsea it is easy to kill the Guys walking around in that area forget their name up to 50 and more. In fact a rare game is about that if you kill 100 of them the Exiled ones will show up that isn’t their name but it is how I think of them to clairify. Though I would wait a few levels like 60 or so before trying them.
EDIT- Quickenings are nice but don’t rely on them they drain your magic to Nil and you have to be REALLY good to take down the latter bosses with them. Best used to take a Large chunck of health out really quickly. Prime example is Bomb king you have to use the Quickenings before Half health and hope you do it good enough to win.
Nelzar wanted to know about the medallions for the Necrohol, so here we go:
The first thing you have to do is near the beginning of the game, after you return from Barhiem. Complete the Waterway Haunting hunt and claim the reward. Deeg, the Seeq will be in the residence at the North End of Lowtown’s North Sprawl. Speak to him, and grab the Dusty Letter from the table. Speak to him again. Then, later, complete the Lost in the Pudding Hunt. Sorbet, the petitioner, will reward you with the Sluice Gate Key.
Dull Fragment:
Head into the Garamsythe Waterway with your new key. Open all of the gates (all of the lights on the floor will be off).
Close Gate #11
Close Gate #4
Open Gate #11
Close Gate #3
Open Gate #4
Walk around to Gate #3 and search the ground. You’ll get a visual reaction after opening Gate #4, and the fragment will be shining on the ground.
Blackened Fragment:
Complete the Crime and Punishment Hunt. You’ll recieve it as the reward.
Grimy Fragment:
At this point you will "officially" begin the side-quest. There is a Nu Mou in the first area of the Nabreus Deadlands. Speak to him and then head to Old Dalan’s house. There will be another Nu Mou. Speak to him and turn over the fragments you already have.
*Find Filo in the SE corner of Lowtown’s South Sprawl
*Find the Curious woman in the Southern plaza of Rabanastre.
*Head to Muthru Bazaar and speak to the three characters labeled "merchant"
*Find the Sotted Imperial in Yugri’s Magicks
*Find Kytes by Warehouse #5
*Find Filo in the same place as before
*Agree to go with Filo and Kytes to Yugri’s Magicks
*Talk to the Imperial for a scene and the Fragment
Turn the fragment over to the Nu Mou at Old Dalan’s house and head to Archades.
Moonsilver Medallion:
*Speak to the Nu Mou in Charlotte’s Magickery
*Find Otto in the NE corner of the alley of Muted Sighs
*Return the medallion to the Nu Mou
The Medallion of Might:
Head back to the Muted Scarp (in the Deadlands) and speak to the Nu Mou. Then proceed through the secret path in the NW corner of the Slumbermead. Follow this path through two sections to a shrine in the Overlooking Eternity section. There you will recieve all 3 medallions.
From there, just head into the Necrohol and have at the sealed doors.
Nelzar
03-12-2007, 11:12 PM
thanks man, much appreciated!
I still can’t beat the game. :l
I have Deathbringer and The Demon Shield on my best character. I know there are better weapons/sheilds.
Where do I find them??
Revaninja
03-13-2007, 02:56 AM
You make them in the Bazaar I think the Requirments have already been posted. Also Try to level up and try to make better Gambits. If you are roughly level 50 you should be able to win with a little bit of work.
You make them in the Bazaar I think the Requirments have already been posted
Yes, they have (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=762639&postcount=402). Also, Excalibur can be found in the Great Crystal, and the Ultima Blade can be found in the Pharos, to name just a few.
pimpedoutgeese
03-13-2007, 04:43 AM
Quickenings are nice but don’t rely on them they drain your magic to Nil and you have to be REALLY good to take down the latter bosses with them. Best used to take a Large chunck of health out really quickly. Prime example is Bomb king you have to use the Quickenings before Half health and hope you do it good enough to win.
I agree with ya there… I just figured early in the game with a 4-5 Quicken it would kill him off… I did it with 4 and a few more slashes did the job.. but honestly I rarely use quickens except early on
Hynad
03-13-2007, 05:41 AM
Yeah, because as you advance in the game, the quickenings won’t kill the bosses in a single chain, so you end up with no MP to back you up after that.
the guy watching you
03-13-2007, 07:17 AM
what is the best equip combination to use to get the highest amount of physical damage?
Revaninja
03-13-2007, 07:42 AM
The BEST is the axes/Hammers but they are iffy since the Damage is either great or low one or the other and usually low. The truly best stuff is the Bows, Great swords such as Tournesol and Ragnork, and the Sword Shield combo. Or at least that is what I found works best.
Really it is each players style that brings out the best or worst of the weapons and equip. Say you want a lot of Attack combos which can all totaled have a bigger effect then even the Zodiac spear then the combonation would be Masamune and Genji glove. While Masamune only has I think 95 attack it has a better chance then norm to combo add in the Genji glove and it is possible to Max out on the combos I think 15 times or so I only did it once aganist Behemoth King. The Accesories Armor and the weapon you chose plus your attack style truly tell you what makes a good combo of equips.
Lets take Ashe I gave her High mystic equip, Bubble belt, Ageis shield, and Durandal. She was a Mage killer since the Mystic boosted her ability to surivive Magic the shield let her dodge ALOT of magic nearly 50-50 the belt helped her survive the stuff that she did get hit with and Durandal let her do a good chunck of damage each hit. In short she was a Character who was best as a Mage knight and I sculpted and used her as such.
How you play who you play and what you have really determines what is the best equipment to use there is no BEST just the Ultimates for each type like Ultimate Blade, Zodiac spear, Masamune and several others whose names I can’t spell right now. So in the end what you like is what is the best.
Mr Jack
03-13-2007, 01:15 PM
Thanx Revaninja, though i went home before i read your comment and managed to do it on my fourth try!
I did find some scary thoughts in your comments though, mainly – how the hell were you at level 23 by the time of the Leviathan, mine were only on 10/11, – i guess i just havent being paying enough attention to the game overall, but still, is there any particular way that you have been leveling up, or were you just suppremely bored?
More to the point, though my last effort was half-hearted, im now at the Garuda stage and by god am i struggling. Any tips? (by any tips? – i mean throughout the game aswell, such as how to level up easierly, what abilities are best to go for, and how the hell do you get more money.)
EDIT – Also – im incredebly stuck with quickenings and nobody seems to be able to explain it too me, in short – How the fuck do you cast one, when i cast one, it goes so fast, i end up holing R1 or R2 (whichever), but what am i supposed to be doing?
Revaninja
03-13-2007, 05:05 PM
Actually I misspoke I was thinking where you are now and got confused you will see why soon enough. But no I was level 15 I rememeber when I fought Ghis and I as a rule clear out areas to better explore and level at least I did till a little later on.
The best thing to do is Level up till you are Level 23-25 or so not because of Garuda but a later nasty monster. Go back to Sandsea and kill monsters till you are near level 20ish or so and you should have no prob.
Now a tip or trick here is a simiple one first after you gain entrance to Raithwall’s tomb SAVE. Then go in when you are near level 25 or so fight the first DemonWall and kill it don’t run away. After you kill it go back out and SAVE. Then go through the door you were suppouse to. There will be a Second DemonWall kill it the first was the most powerful so if you can kill the first you shouldn’t have too much trouble. Now go Save again. Now you are ready go back to where the first Demonwall was you will see a glittering jewel touch it. Staircases will open up go down which ever side and follow them you will have to fight some monsters but it is not too bad. You should come to a point where the 2 paths meet there should be a sword laying on a pedstal if not do a Soft rest or go back to the beginning and try again. This is repetable so you can get as many as you want. The sword is the Demonslayer sword and you will be Kicking ass and taking names for AWHILE with it equipped. Also there is a trick for the Deathbringer which is one of the last swords in the game in Barheim Passage though I have never done it so you will need someone else to do it.
Now as for what to get with Lp first you should clear everything up to at least 2 levels above your choosen equipment for the character if say you are on heavyarmor 2 have Heavyarmor 4 and so forth. Spend Lp in accesrories, Spells, techs, and the best part Augments which can make measly potions heal you ALOT more so easier on the purse strings. As for Money sell the loot which High Kill chains help with some you get squat some you get alot it really depends on the loot. Also do the Hunts it gives alot of Cash as a norm but also you can pick up rare Equipment or pick it up before it normally becomes avabile on the market. You might want to get the Monographs talk to all merchants at least 30 or so times and examine the hunt board 50 times to get them. They are pricey but usefull since they each help a ceratin Monster type drop loot which is the better investment in the long run.
For quickenings first you are probably still on Level one quickenings at this point in the game and maybe only one or 2 people with it so you won’t get much till 3 characters in active party with it or some level 2s. Now don’t hold down R2 TAP it this will cause a shuffle and maybe getting one of 2 things Mist charge or a Quickenings. Mist charge means the gauge will fill for that character so you get a Quickening it still takes up time but it is assured unlike shuffle. When you do a Quickening you add time to your timer so do it fast and you have a better chances of combos. Now later on when you get all Active Party memebers level 2 quickenings it will be a lot easier you will also want to be picky in what you choose. You see something called a Concurence or as I dubb it a Final blow happens if you combo enough quick Levels and amount right. The formula is in the charter so go look for it there. Quickenings are not the end all though just to be clear even if you get really good they can not kill a later on boss by themselves anyone who tells you differently is a fool. They can help espically aganist bosses like Bomb King and Ultimatia but in the end you have to be careful since a use of them drains all Mp for that particular character up to the level used, you will know what I mean after you get level 2 quickenings, since later on fights it is easier to cast healing magics then to keep a supply of the level of potion needed.
Mr Jack
03-13-2007, 05:20 PM
Thanx for that, ill keep all that in mind!
Most of that made sense to me apart from the quickenings, though that will all probably come with time.
I too try and make it a rule to explore the whole place and level up, though i had a bit of trouble with the sandsea, i managed to get a good kill chain of about 70 or so, and then i came across a big fiery monster that cast firaga on all my party, of course i ran like the wind! I think its a shame that there arent more save points in the sand sea part as its a long a tedious area and there are not a lot of opportunities to recover (contrary to what is said in the mini FMV "try to rest whenever you get tired")
I shall go back to the Sandsea and level a bit more no doubt i will be back tommorow with more Q’s!!!! –
ALSO – how do i claim my reward for killing that turtle like monster eater?, it was mentioned to me that if i kill it, i would get some treasure, all ive had so far was a pain in the ass!
Agent0042
03-13-2007, 06:32 PM
Sounds to me like you encountered an Entite. The best thing to do is just stay away from those things for the time being. And don’t cast any magicks or anything near them.
As for the turtle-like monster, if you’re thinking of what I think you’re thinking of, the reward is an item called "Eskir Berries." You have head back over towards the save crystal where the moogle is and then just past that, you’ll trigger a scene with a rogue Yensan, then you go back to the save crystal area and you’ll get another scene and then the berry will be blooming. It’s useful against garuda, which is at the Tomb you’re heading to, though if you’ve already done that, there’s no point in bothering.
Revaninja
03-13-2007, 06:37 PM
That one I have no idea I have the same question about the eater.
There is a Save point near the bottom of the map that switches from the 2 Sandseas I found it while doing Monster list fill ins. In fact that Save point is the Teleport Crystal of the area might help abit.
The monster you are talking about that nearly killed you is an Entite VERY dangerous. Wait until level 40ish or so before taking them on. They give good rewards though stuff like Halycons and Electrum which helps you get some of the more powerful stuff from the Bazaar.
As for Quickenings just tap R2 and look for White highlighted names and you should figure it out fast enough.
Agent0042
03-13-2007, 06:43 PM
Mr Jack, about the Quickenings, just look at the forum charter. I’ve got threads linked there giving good information about that — it should hopefully answer your questions.
pimpedoutgeese
03-14-2007, 01:55 AM
MUCH PROPS to you if you passed the Garuda without the Eskir Berries especially at that level… I didn’t really know about the berries and I tried fighting that bird and I kept getting toasted, I turned around to level and I triggered the scene with the rogue, man was I happy when I killed that thing
I tried the Entite’s at about 45 still kinda gave me trouble, but thats based on equipment, also I think the max combo is 12, I read that somewhere
Gotta question about that trick Reva, if you soft reset without saving how does it save your sword so you can have more then one, or maybe you do save… I’m a dunce who can’t figure it out.
Revaninja
03-14-2007, 03:12 AM
No the soft reset is for if you don’t get the sword if you get the sword just go back SAVE then try again if you want for more. Also you don’t have to do the Soft reset just go back out and then try again. I got it on my first try so I don’t know how hard it is to get but I do know it can be done.
Agent0042
03-14-2007, 03:13 AM
I think he just means that if the sword is there, then you go back and save and then you can go the soft reset and go get another one. If the sword isn’t there, then you don’t go back to save, obviously, you just soft reset right then and there.
pimpedoutgeese
03-14-2007, 08:27 AM
Yea, just give me my DUNCE hat, thanks, I’ll wear it with pride
Mr Jack
03-14-2007, 10:44 AM
Yeah – figured the "Entity’s" were kinda dangerous!!
Ive explored pretty much all areas of the Sandsea now, ive still not found those berries Agent was talking about but i have defeated Garuda, you were right, all it took was a bit of levelling up ( by a bit – i mean i stopped up most of the night!!!) I saved just before entering the temple and i will continue on to get the sword ravaninja was talking about later today!.
Many thanks for getting me past this part!! Do you think it will be worth going back for the berry thingies?? – Also, while exploring the sandsea, i found a litle cavern, it had two rooms in it that were blocked off by a sand-waterfall…is there any way of getting into those rooms??
One other q…i am a "moppet" – a) what the heck is that and b) if it is what i think it is, how do i progress?
Nymph
03-14-2007, 11:36 AM
One other q…i am a "moppet" – a) what the heck is that and b) if it is what i think it is, how do i progress?
"Moppet" is your clan rank. Moppet is the lowest, obviously, as you start out as one.
At that point in the game, you should’ve been introduced to Clan Centurio already. As you complete marks (check the notice board in, for example, ‘the Sandsea’ in Rabanastre) and collect clan points (by defeating monsters), your rank moves up. The higher your clan rank, the better goodies you can buy at the Muthru Bazaar in Rabanastre! ๐
Mr Jack
03-14-2007, 01:10 PM
ooohhh, well i havent being paying much attention to the board as of yet, but the next opportunity i get!!
Revaninja
03-14-2007, 05:20 PM
All towns have a board and you should get a go up a rank or 2 after a hunt. Montblanc gives out treasure to you usually gil as well in the Muthur Bazaar in Rabanastre there is the clan shop which will sell you ALOT of neat stuff like Hi-potions long before your time though for some strange reason they stop after a bit don’t know why they just do. Also Teleport stones are sold after a ceratin rank which will allow you to use the Teleport save cyrstals alot easier they normally get dropped as Loot or later in the Port you can buy them from a Merchant. It is a good idea to increase your Clan rank just for the Shop items which can help big time.
The 2 rooms with Sand waterfalls are avabile tell later someone will talk about how Zatreina-Sp?- Caverns has been discovered that is when those Sandwaterfalls go away. The monsters in there are 30-40ish in level and will normally kick your keaster from one side to the next one you first find it. It is a good place to level espically if you come in from Rabanastre side since the monsters start a little easier. Now if you do go exploring be careful there is an Esper Ardlemech-Sp I know its wrong- he is powerful because he flys and has an unending supply of zombies I think level 35 or so should be enough but I am not sure since I was overleveled and came across him.
DeathShining
03-15-2007, 11:46 PM
Does anyone know where to get these sheilds and armor from???
Zodiac Escutcheon
Ensanguined Sheild
Brave Suit
Revaninja
03-16-2007, 02:38 AM
Zodiac is some where in the Great cyrstal near Ultimatia
Ensanguined I got in the Ice field before Giruvegan with Bangle on.
Brave suit I am not sure but I think it is in Pharos underground somewhere sorry.
shanara
03-16-2007, 02:13 PM
Hey all, new here etc.
Bit of advice please.
My main team is Vaan (lv35) Fran (lv32) and Basch (lv32) I’v just come back from Stilshire and I decided to do a few marks and no matter how hard I try, I keep getting owned by Maralith (sp)
I’v done all of the other Marks up to rank III and some of the rank IV and V too but I cant seem to kill him… Not sure why.Vaan is my tank with the Deathbringer, Golden shield and Gauntlets equipted as well as all the Shield blocks learnt, Fran is my Healer and Long range and Basch uses Katana’s for the high combo rate.
Generally when I start a mark I spam blind until it sticks then beserk and decoy on Vaan. Maralith iirc is immune to blind and so that sucks…
Anyone got any strategies for me?
Thnaks
pimpedoutgeese
03-16-2007, 03:00 PM
Maritlith isn’t immune to Blind… also you can Slow him. Don’t know if you have the Nihaopaluzaa (wrong spelling so that’s what I’ll call it) Equip it and toss a Remedy at it. That should give it Blind, Slow, and maybe a few more nice status effecgs… also haste yourself and then do what your doing, Beserk/Decoy, eventually it’ll fall.
shanara
03-16-2007, 03:51 PM
Thanks for that, havnt gotten around to buying Nihaopaluzaa yet although it is available.
I have the Gil, spose i’ll buy it then!
pimpedoutgeese
03-16-2007, 07:05 PM
Yea you can get cheesy addicted to Niho/Remedy… almost effective on most mobs, there’s always that few though…
Nelzar
03-17-2007, 12:00 AM
could someone please tell me what the "morbid urn" does, and is it worth the quarter million
could someone please tell me what the "morbid urn" does, and is it worth the quarter million
When you buy it it will be "re-named" the Canopic Jar. It allows ALL enemies to start dropping Arcana. If you are going to synthesize the Tournesol (which I highly recommend), and you don’t get your High Arcana from the Espers**, you are going to need 60 Arcana as part of the High Arcana recipe.
Also, it makes it possible to get Mimic in your Sky Pirate Den. You might have to synthesize several other weapons to snag it, but some FAQs say you only need to synthesize and purchase the Jar to get it.
So yes, totally worth it. When you’re ready for specifics on the Tournesol recipe just ask.
**you can steal them during your battle with each one, with the Thief’s Cuffs, but they are the rarest steal.
Nelzar
03-17-2007, 12:21 AM
hehe, looks like i gots me some saving up to do, thanks man
hehe, looks like i gots me some saving up to do, thanks man
Do you have all the Grimoires? They’re Monographs once you buy them, and allow you to get better loot from enemies. They also allow you to get the items highlighted in the second pages of bestiary entries, which you often need to synthesize the bazaar exclusive items.
They improve your money-making ability, which is why I bring it up.
If you don’t have any or only have a few, let me know and I’ll tell you how to get them. They cost between 18000-25000, but again, are worth the effort.
Nelzar
03-17-2007, 12:38 AM
i have a few yea, to get more of them i’ll have to talk to types of shops correct?
Yep. There’s also one that you have to activate by finishing the Thextera hunt (the second one) and talking to the petitioner again at the physical bazaar in Rabanastre (Muthru). His name’s Gatsly and he stands in a niche to the West (It’ll be on your right as you’re walking through the bazaar though).
Also, two come from reading the Hunt board. Happy hunting.
Nelzar
03-17-2007, 12:48 AM
cheers!
Revaninja
03-17-2007, 01:12 AM
If you look at some of the past pages there is the complete list somewhere I know because I posted it so go have a gander.
Vaan1993
03-17-2007, 08:22 AM
Do any o you guys know a really good place to train. My guys are in the mid 60’s. I also need a good amount of LP so please help me out.
the guy watching you
03-17-2007, 08:32 AM
for lp just go to one of the bridges in lhusu mines and kill the skeletons that keep popping out.for exp,the best place to go is the secret area in henne mines,in order to get there you must first get 10 espers and then talk to a garif elder at the garif village.the bats there are worth around 3300 exp. per char. but be careful,they are deadly even at high levels.
also,if your having a hard time with the bats then i say just continue on the story.if you’re at bahumat though,then i suggest subterra at the pharos
pimpedoutgeese
03-17-2007, 09:23 AM
… suggest subterra at the pharos
Agreed. Just be careful though, if you don’t have good gambits or not really payin attention they’ll get ya, even at 60
Revaninja
03-17-2007, 04:22 PM
Yes espically since the enemies will swarm you once you step out of the evelator and even if you kill them all they will come back if you go into any of the rooms. SO be very careful and keep a sharp eye out. Also on the undead level sometimes after you kill a Skeleton a ghost type will show up in its place so be really careful as well as reaper type monster will show up near the exit of some of the rooms and they can use Annual which means Mp goes bye bye. But a good place to level and pick up some of the rare drops for final weapons.
the guy watching you
03-17-2007, 08:41 PM
also make very sure you stay away from the magic pot,if you attack it it’ll become invincible and start attacking you with flares.(you can kill it if you give it an elixir before you attack tho)
Revaninja
03-17-2007, 08:52 PM
Also as stated in the Yizmat thread you can steal back the exilirs and then kill it and maybe it will drop a Megaxilir. Also gives great Lp with out the golden bangle with it well lets just say you won’t have Lp problems for a bit.
Vaan1993
03-17-2007, 11:12 PM
Well i got 10 espers (need to get Chaos, Ultima and Zodiac) I will try the subterra and hopefully I can survive there. What weapons do you suggest I bring. Penelo’s got the Deathbringer, Basch has the Save the Queen & Ashe has the Masamune with genji gloves. Is that good enough???
buster blade
03-17-2007, 11:52 PM
put penello with a powerfull bow basch with the Ragnar???k and vaan with a the strongest weapon u got penelo will use magic insted of her weapon put the right gambits
dont use ashe she get killed two much
Revaninja
03-18-2007, 12:43 AM
Use who ever you like everyone is basically the same until level 99 then a few differences happen but nothing truly big. You should at least be level 70 to attempt and have all the items like Phoenix down and ethers maxed to help out.
My suggestion if you have it slap Penelo with Aegis shield it will help ALOT since magic will be avoided alot. Give everyone a Black mask to heal from Dark attacks since near the end Zodiark and the monsters pretty much use all Dark attacks. Have all spells espically attack ones since once zodiark has less then half hp he will throw up a Pailing and keep it up Steal his serptaniuras-sp?- stone before then. Have High magic rest because Zodiark sticks with alot of magic spells espically near the end. Watch out for Zodiarks Special since it can randomly kill the characters you might lose none 1 2 or all it varies so keep an eye out for it. Revive all characters immeditaly and don’t really bother healing near the end just let them die and revive with Downs to keep the battle flowing well.
Every thing else just fight how you want to and with who you want to. Rememeber it is not the weapons or the equips but rather the stragety that wins the secert fights in the end.
Vaan1993
03-18-2007, 02:14 AM
Okay. Um where do you get excalibur? O and Subterra is the best place to train but its hard cause once you kill all the guys it take forever for them to respwan. Okay I will try Chaos now any suggestions?
Revaninja
03-18-2007, 02:37 AM
If you mean Chaos the wheel walker the esper just take out his elements first then kill him easy as pie pretty much.
Excalibur is in the great cyrstal go to gamefaqs look in their maps section on the Faq page for better directions then what I can give you. Be prepared I went looking for it with the Map and I had a cyrstal bangle found the treasure chest it is suppouse to be in and tried for 3 hours to spawn it and got zip.
As for subterra just move from room to room in a clockwise pattern and they usually respawn or you can hope into the elevator and go up a floor then go back respawns everything. Also the best place to train is Hene mines locked section since the monsters are level 70 while the Subterra are level 50 to 60
Hynad
03-18-2007, 02:39 AM
I had a cyrstal bangle
you mean the Diamond Armlet
Revaninja
03-18-2007, 02:45 AM
Thanks sorry been awhile since I have played currently playing Valkyrie profile 2 so that is the explanation on that.
shanara
03-18-2007, 03:24 AM
Do weapons actually respawn, I could never get Deathbringer to respawn and I spent about an hour trying… I got the one and it just refuses to respawn for me…
Hynad
03-18-2007, 03:28 AM
no, most weapons that you get in chest can only be obtained once.
shanara
03-18-2007, 03:31 AM
Does it matter that the weapon is a steal from a mimic?
If not… damn you Gamefaqs, wasted an hour…
Revaninja
03-18-2007, 03:58 AM
If it is a steal then yes you can unless otherwise stated I think the Deathbringer trick only works once but I am not sure on that.
shanara
03-18-2007, 04:03 AM
Alright thanks anyway.
Not that it matters Im keeping Vaan with the Deathbringer I have and training Basch and Ashe up with Ninja Swords and Katana’s for the high combo rate. Cant wait to get Genji gloves. Do they make alot of difference.
Im on the Phon Coast now btw.
Revaninja
03-18-2007, 04:04 AM
Yes they do I comboded Ultimate Blade 10 times on Zodiark once and got the Max for Masamune later trust me get them from Gilgamesh they are one of the best equips in the game.
buster blade
03-18-2007, 04:09 AM
what about the zodiak spear
what about the zodiak spear
What about it? Where do you find it? Look for the series of posts between myself and Ultimadream a few pages back, in this thread.
Posts 431-451, I believe. There is also a thread linked in the forum charter. The charter is the first thread on the list.
buster blade
03-18-2007, 06:02 AM
i mean is there more then one that u can find
Revaninja
03-18-2007, 07:33 AM
No as far as we know as of today you can only get one. Either by not touching treasure in 4 areas then going to the Nechrol of Nabudis or in Hene mine locked section. To this date no one has claimed to have gotten 99 Zodiac spears with out cheating.
the guy watching you
03-18-2007, 08:39 AM
the chest in the henne mines respawns even after you get the spear,so it would be possible to get 99 zodiac spears,it’ll just take forever
Revaninja
03-18-2007, 09:19 AM
The chest respawns but the spear does not every after that point the chest will contain Gil or a side treasure just like the Excalibur treasure chest in great cyrstal no one has gotten 99 of them either also the Hene mine you have a 1/1000 chance, I believe it was calculated at, of getting it. And to this date no one who has gotten the Zodiac in Nechrol has gotten it later in Hene and they have tried. You get ONE and that is it even though the treasure respawns so don’t waste your time going for 99 it ain’t happening period.
Vaan1993
03-18-2007, 09:11 PM
99 Zodiack Spears??? Man that would be nice but it would never happen. O i’m going to start a new game on FFXII. Any suggestions on who my team should consist of?
buster blade
03-18-2007, 09:24 PM
use for sure vaan penelo and basch
vaan because he a strong hitter
basch because he is balance
and penelo is good with magik
Vaan1993
03-18-2007, 09:27 PM
Hmmmm.
Is Fran or Balthier any good. I haven’t really used them in this game.
Hynad
03-18-2007, 09:39 PM
They are all mostly the same to me. Their stats are not all that different to matter in the end, so I mostly use the ones I think have the best personality.
I like Balthier, Ashe and Vaan, mostly, but I like to change them once in a while. Basch is also a great character.
buster blade
03-18-2007, 09:40 PM
fran is good in black magik but she is not better then penelo
and balthier is not my best choice
and before u ask ashe has low defense in my opinion
Hynad
03-18-2007, 09:44 PM
Fran good in Black Magic? How is it supposed to happen that a character can be better at doing ONE type of magic over an other??
LOL
Clearly, that’s complete nonsense.
buster blade
03-18-2007, 09:49 PM
well it a thought but fran every time i use her black magik it very powerful but her white magik isn’t better from penelo
i know u think its nonsense but think about it if every character were the same the game would be
boring
Vaan1993
03-18-2007, 09:50 PM
Ok so my team will be : Vaan, Fran & Balthier. Thanks for your opinions. I just sick of using Ashe, Penelo & Basch. Used them throughout this whole game.
buster blade
03-18-2007, 10:04 PM
make sure too balance your team in levels
Revaninja
03-18-2007, 10:14 PM
He doesn’t need to I didn’t and I got on just fine with level 73 and level 25 characters at the end no problem.
Hynad there is a Slight difference once you max out a Character’s level such as Vaan and Basch have THE highest Atk power out of them all. And I think Penelo has the highest casting while Ashe has the fastest speed and Fran is balanced between them. But for ALOT of the game play it doesn’t matter since Augments equip and so forth will equal out the slight differences in stats we are talking 15-20 point difference not like 50 or higher so different equip will negate that very easily.
buster blade
03-18-2007, 10:17 PM
well your full of patience
Hynad
03-18-2007, 10:29 PM
Revaninja: yeah, that’s why I said there’s not that much difference between them. There is still one, but not enough for me to justify using a character over an other.
BusterBlade: The character’s magic power is determined by the same stat for every type of magic. So Penelo having the same Magic stat as Fran would end up with them doing the same amount of damage when using a Black Magic.
And you’re right, all characters being mostly the same is a bit boring.
buster blade
03-18-2007, 10:40 PM
but what funny is that some characters like different weapons then others
Vaan1993
03-19-2007, 05:43 AM
Okay. Thanks for your support guys. I think i’m will pick Vaan, Fran and Balthier. Can someone tell me all the guys max stats at lvl 99 (With all the auguments completed)
buster blade
03-19-2007, 05:53 AM
witch stats are u looking for
Vaan1993
03-19-2007, 05:54 AM
EVERYONES!!!!!
lol
I was just wondering cause some of you would have max out characters.
Mine are only in the 60’s cause I only got it last month.
Revaninja
03-19-2007, 05:58 AM
It is actually posted here somewhere in this thread by K- I belive not 100 on that though. From what I rememeber Vaan Basch have the highest Attack, Penelo highest Magic barely, Ashe Speed, and Fran is balanced between the 2. Balither I don’t Rememeber Sorry But I think the List is somewhere in this Thread.
Vaan1993
03-19-2007, 06:03 AM
Lol I can’t be bothered to look. Well anyways I look for it on google or something. Thanks for your help!
buster blade
03-19-2007, 06:07 AM
y don’t u get the guide book
Vaan1993
03-19-2007, 06:09 AM
Because I don’t want to waste money and I can’t be bothered to go to the shops to get it lol. I just use Gamefaqs there the best.
buster blade
03-19-2007, 06:11 AM
good idea
Revaninja
03-19-2007, 06:14 AM
The guide is worth crap it has MANY errors and omissions in it.
buster blade
03-19-2007, 06:17 AM
thats for sure
It is actually posted here somewhere in this thread by K- I belive not 100 on that though. From what I rememeber Vaan Basch have the highest Attack, Penelo highest Magic barely, Ashe Speed, and Fran is balanced between the 2. Balither I don’t Rememeber Sorry But I think the List is somewhere in this Thread.
It wasn’t me, it was in a different thread, and it isn’t a complete list, but here (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=748415&postcount=11) is the post in question.
Revaninja
03-19-2007, 03:32 PM
Whoops but thanks for tracking it down.
Vaan1993
03-19-2007, 09:42 PM
Okay. Thanks guys for tracking that down for me it helps alot. Well i’m sticking with Vaan, Balthier & Fran for my party. Thanks for your help guys. O and I’m about to fight the Mimic Queen just to keep you updated to where I am.
buster blade
03-19-2007, 09:43 PM
good luck
Nelzar
03-20-2007, 10:01 PM
could anyone please tell me if there is a way to light up the rooms in the subterra of pharos
Revaninja
03-20-2007, 10:50 PM
Yes those Black orbs you obtain when you kill off monsters? Well you need some of those go into a room in Subterra now near the entrance is an alter it usually in a corner it looks like a Block with a depression in it. Go up to it and activate it it will ask you how many orbs will you use. Use only 1 per request to prevent wasting those Black orbs which can be a pain to get. As you fill up the alter with a ceratin amount of Orbs a Light will shine forth it will light up the room area and after you get the light the more orbs the brighter it gets. The maxium number of orbs will completly light up the area. Before you max out though you will get light its just not as bright is all. This is also how you get acess to the next level of subterra.
Though you need to kill the Phoenix on the first level of Subterra before the Lift will go lower even if you Light up all the rooms.
Agent0042
03-20-2007, 11:07 PM
There was a guide posted way back in this thread somewhere, I believe, with the exact number of orbs to use for each one, if you find it painful to bother with one at a time.
Mr Colander
03-21-2007, 10:19 PM
I need help in the Sochen Cave Palace, them flipping pumpkin things are getting to my tits (pardon my french and i am a guy) i have all three quickenings with my character, my van is lvl 36, balthier lvl 33, fran lvl 33, basche lvl 33, ashe lvl 34, and penelo level 34, i have the two espers balias and mateus, and i have all the magicks and tecknicks thus far in the game, i have three deathbringers and 2 sledgehammers and a bow i cant remember the name of, and i cant f****ing do it! :'( am i at bad levels or am i just crap! if anyone can give me advice it would be highly appreciated!
Thanks all!
Agent0042
03-21-2007, 11:05 PM
One strategy might be to try some Quickenings and try to execute a Concurrence. If you can do that and damage all of them at once, you’d be off to a good start. Make sure to go in with your protective statuses — i.e. Haste, Protect, Bubble (if you have it), etc. Another good idea might be whenever possible to try to maneuver it around so you’re only fighting one or two at once and they’re not all gangbanging you. I seem to remember that some of them use status effects, so you might want to have a Gambit for Remedy or Esuna, etc. at the ready.
Revaninja
03-21-2007, 11:58 PM
Also equip Staus protecting items that guard aganist Sleep, Blind, and Silence I think are the big ones they use. Try to fight them as Agent said Piece meal as best you can but if you have a Quickening use it on one in the middle of the group that way the Concurrence hits as many of them as you can. Same with wide area spells. Also if you have the gil for it Gil toss at least once it is one of the most powerful wide area attacks you can have if you use Max gil you can toss. Another good stragety is to remove the Hammers and go with different weapons since Hammers and Axes are either Low or High damage with more often on the Low. Also if you have a good supply of remendys use them since they get rid of most Stats from the get go and you only use one turn.
Need a little help here. Going for the Zodiac Spear, however am coming across the Bomb King. Granted i’m only on lvl 40 with Vaan and pretty much an average of lvl 32 for everybody else, but is there a quick and easy way of getting rid of this pesky critter?
Need a little help here. Going for the Zodiac Spear, however am coming across the Bomb King. Granted i’m only on lvl 40 with Vaan and pretty much an average of lvl 32 for everybody else, but is there a quick and easy way of getting rid of this pesky critter?
Whittle him down pretty far, and before he activates Renew, pop a quickening and try for a good long chain.
Whittle him down pretty far, and before he activates Renew, pop a quickening and try for a good long chain.
It’s those bloody little bombs that keep getting me. I can’t seem to kill them quick enough before he whoops me with Fira or the like. I don’t have the items really, although i have the Warhammer/Gladius and Kotesui.
Then you may be underleveled. How far in the story are you? Do you have access to Fire shields?
Then you may be underleveled. How far in the story are you? Do you have access to Fire shields?
I’m at the Giza Plains (The Rains) doing some side missions but saw i might be able to get the Z/Spear and went for it. Page 231 in the guide book.
I’m at the Giza Plains (The Rains) doing some side missions but saw i might be able to get the Z/Spear and went for it. Page 231 in the guide book.
Yeah, I went after Raithwall too. I was successful, but I was around lvl 50. You aren’t far enough to get Fireshields, but you probably know that. Although, I remember getting ONE before they went on sale, so it might be a Hunt Reward. Check the guide, I’m at school right now, otherwise, I’d be all over this in a more competent manner ๐
Yeah, I went after Raithwall too. I was successful, but I was around lvl 50. You aren’t far enough to get Fireshields, but you probably know that. Although, I remember getting ONE before they went on sale, so it might be a Hunt Reward. Check the guide, I’m at school right now, otherwise, I’d be all over this in a more competent manner ๐
No worries. Off work sick so i’ve got all the time in the world. I’m just currently using the save point i used prior to rushing to the King Bomb, to level up my character through Dustia.
Mr Colander
03-22-2007, 05:57 PM
Also equip Staus protecting items that guard aganist Sleep, Blind, and Silence I think are the big ones they use. Try to fight them as Agent said Piece meal as best you can but if you have a Quickening use it on one in the middle of the group that way the Concurrence hits as many of them as you can. Same with wide area spells. Also if you have the gil for it Gil toss at least once it is one of the most powerful wide area attacks you can have if you use Max gil you can toss. Another good stragety is to remove the Hammers and go with different weapons since Hammers and Axes are either Low or High damage with more often on the Low. Also if you have a good supply of remendys use them since they get rid of most Stats from the get go and you only use one turn.
all the help everoyne is giving me does sound fair and thanks alot, but i cant seem to get quickenings to effect more then one foe, i reckon if i could then i would have done it by now, can anyone help me with this problem :(? thanks all, well appreciated!
all the help everoyne is giving me does sound fair and thanks alot, but i cant seem to get quickenings to effect more then one foe, i reckon if i could then i would have done it by now, can anyone help me with this problem :(? thanks all, well appreciated!
Only concurrences affect all enemies in range. The quickenings themselves only target the enemy that you select before they trigger. The concurrences increase in strength as you go further down the list in this (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=716533&postcount=13) post (increasing in strength from Inferno to Blackhole.) So try for the strongest one you can.
Got the Z Spear!!!
Thanks lads.
Finally beat the game, I loved the ending.
Still interested in how to get some of the stronger weapons.
Tried to find it and couldn’t find it in the forums, after 45 minutes of looking.
So what do you have to sell do get them, or where do you find them?
x_O Sorry for asking them to be repeated.
Thanks anyway.
Finally beat the game, I loved the ending.
Still interested in how to get some of the stronger weapons.
Tried to find it and couldn’t find it in the forums, after 45 minutes of looking.
So what do you have to sell do get them, or where do you find them?
x_O Sorry for asking them to be repeated.
Thanks anyway.
This (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=762639&postcount=402) post has the link to GameFaq’s XII page, and the name of the FAQ in question. Just check it for whatever you don’t have and would like to have.
Was going in wrong entrance, other area to Barheim was greyed out.
Heimer1989
03-23-2007, 01:19 AM
I’m quite confused I was reading the posts at the start of this topic, but I could have sworn it was 10,000 needles. Because I believe I am getting towards the end of the game and I have never seen the tecknic 1,000 nor 10,000 needles.. and my group all hit over 1,000. So the Tecnick would be rather pointless I would think.
Sorry another question.
Doing the Deathbringer steal in Barheim Passage, however i’ve pinched 2 from him and now the urn is not appearing. Is it one of those urns that rarely turns up?
I’m quite confused I was reading the posts at the start of this topic, but I could have sworn it was 10,000 needles. Because I believe I am getting towards the end of the game and I have never seen the tecknic 1,000 nor 10,000 needles.. and my group all hit over 1,000. So the Tecnick would be rather pointless I would think.
1000 Needles is available from the Merchant in the Babbling Vale section of Mosphoran.
Revaninja
03-23-2007, 02:21 AM
When you first get Needles it is useful because most people won’t hit over a 1000 at that time later its useful as a Long range attack that costs Zero Mp and finally if you need to lower the enemies health for Poaching later on since by the end Some enemies you will kill in one hit. Limited use really.
When you first get Needles it is useful because most people won’t hit over a 1000 at that time later its useful as a Long range attack that costs Zero Mp and finally if you need to lower the enemies health for Poaching later on since by the end Some enemies you will kill in one hit. Limited use really.
Because I forgot to pick it up when I went into Mosphoran for my Thief’s Cuffs pre-Omisace, and again when I went through there in the story, I actually had Sagittarius and Yoichi’s bow for flying enemies, before I ever got it XD
But using it to lower enemy HP to critical is a good idea, Reva, since Gravity can actually kill enemies in XII.<–Has this been confirmed or am I just flat out crazy?
Revaninja
03-23-2007, 04:25 AM
It can but there is something special for it like Graviga or something that can I really don’t know I never messed with Gravity for the most part since I normally conserve Mp for Better magics and Healing. But I do know that yes Zermous or whatever he is called the Gravity Esper can kill with his Gravity special.
Neo Xzhan
03-23-2007, 10:24 AM
Eh from what I read, you can get Coeurl Whiskers from the Ose in the Great Crystal in Girugevan. I chained up to 150 of them, but not a single drop. Could it be that the Whisker is a Monograph drop? If so, I know what to do =o.
Sorry another question.
Doing the Deathbringer steal in Barheim Passage, however i’ve pinched 2 from him and now the urn is not appearing. Is it one of those urns that rarely turns up?
Although i thought i’d worked it out, i’ve not. Been trying constantly now for 45mins and still not got him to re-appear. Anything i can do to trigger that urn?
Lukey
03-23-2007, 02:08 PM
Joey what happened to your warranty?
Ultimadream
03-23-2007, 04:37 PM
Hey im at The Pharos at Ridorana i just beat Fenrir And am now on the 64th floor im confussed about what im spose to do,could someone enlighten me
Eh from what I read, you can get Coeurl Whiskers from the Ose in the Great Crystal in Girugevan. I chained up to 150 of them, but not a single drop. Could it be that the Whisker is a Monograph drop? If so, I know what to do =o.
You can also steal them from Grimalkin in Tchita Uplands, if you haven’t killed him as part of the Hunt Club side-quest yet.
I’m very sure that items highlighted on the second page of bestiary entries are their monograph drops. Is this the case with Ose?
Neo Xzhan
03-23-2007, 07:58 PM
If it’s a Monograph drop, I’m about to find out. Believe it or not, but I completely missed out on the Hunter’s Monograph. I found this out after 120 hours of playing ๐ก
Nymph
03-24-2007, 11:52 AM
Hey im at The Pharos at Ridorana i just beat Fenrir And am now on the 64th floor im confussed about what im spose to do,could someone enlighten me
Reclaim the ability you gave up earlier (magicks, technicks, the mini-map, whichever you picked) by touching the corresponding pillar, then use the lift to go to the next floor.
Another question people.
I’m trying to get the Embroidered Tippet which i know you can get from stealing from a Coeurls in the Tchita Uplands and also buying it on Archades. I need (or really want) to get 3 of my ‘unused’ characters up to the levels i have with the other 3. I have the Zodiac Spear and Deathbringers and am pretty capable of killing alot of creatures from what i can tell, however i want to get a few of these to boost my EXP. Trouble is i don’t really know where i am going, can anybody guide me?
Storyline wise i’m about to go so Stilshrine Of Miriam.
Revaninja
03-24-2007, 08:59 PM
First you are not very close to getting the Tippet so hold off on it. When you do get it go to the Last Monster heavy area Like the Caverns or so switch in one or two Characters you want to beef Kill the Monsters with your regular Party Character then when the Characters are Leveled to your desire switch them out for the Next group simiple as that. I suggest you have a consant Party leader Like it was Vaan for me Penelo for K- always be in the Party while the Exp may not Level him or her it helps because you are familar with everything He or she can do it will help in the long run espically with Team equal leveling.
I personally went with Ashe, Vaan, Fran and only leveled the others to get the Sky firgure Ashe for Average level 50 and I had no problems for the Most part. Only Team killers like Zodiark with his special random kill gave me really any trouble.
Fair enough, i do have them all near each other now but would like to be a little higher as i didn’t level up at the beginning. It’s taken me ages to level up.
I know i am a way off the Tippets but is it possible for me to get them? Just beaten Mateus and once out will be heading back to Mt Bur-Omisace.
Neo Xzhan
03-24-2007, 10:31 PM
Okay the Coeurl Whiskers are a Monograph drop, yay for wasting my time!
Revaninja
03-24-2007, 10:46 PM
Well you are not too far off from them PSA I mean you are close where you run into the Coeurls. You have maybe 2 hours or so maybe a bit more or less depending on how fast you go through the areas to uplands but you are nearly there.
I don’t know if you can steal from Coeurls the Tippet but it really doesn’t matter since VERY shortly after you run into the Coeurls you get acess to Archadia.
You just have a bit more to go is all.
Need to get them soon, i’m beginning to run out of gil now after buying up new Magicks etc!
I’m finding so many questions with this as i move on.
Just (thought) i’d finished the Ktjn side quest as she moved from the Bazaar area and i am expecting to get a Plat Sword…Gone inside the Clan Hall and she is upstairs with Montblanc however when i speak to her she doesnt give me anything, just says we might join up and hunt a mark (or words to that affect).
Any ideas?
I’m finding so many questions with this as i move on.
Just (thought) i’d finished the Ktjn side quest as she moved from the Bazaar area and i am expecting to get a Plat Sword…Gone inside the Clan Hall and she is upstairs with Montblanc however when i speak to her she doesnt give me anything, just says we might join up and hunt a mark (or words to that affect).
Any ideas?
I’m pretty sure that isn’t Ktjn upstairs. She will be downstairs, dead ahead between the two staircases, sparring when you’re ready to get your item. You have wait another "round" of time after the last question (#4). So just move on with the story for another main event and come back.
Fair enough, i do have them all near each other now but would like to be a little higher as i didn’t level up at the beginning. It’s taken me ages to level up.
I know i am a way off the Tippets but is it possible for me to get them? Just beaten Mateus and once out will be heading back to Mt Bur-Omisace.
Reva is right, it is going to be a while before you can buy them. However, there is a chest in the Bubbling Vale section of Mosphoran that has them. However, you have to move through Mosphoran to Salikawood and have the moogles fix the gate. After this is done, you can activate the Wind Shrines in Bubbling Vale. BeneHaElohim posted the strategy for those in this thread a while ago, just search for it. When you open the path from the highreaches of Mosphoran to Bubbling Vale you’ll have access to that chest.
I’ll be glad to give you more detailed info once you activate the wind shrines.
EDIT: Gah! I double posted! Sorry guys :puppydog:
Thanks alot guys! I’ll keep moving with the story, i don’t need the sword from Ktjn with the other stuff i have but it’s just one of those things i want to be able to ‘tick off’ to say i’ve done it.
Sorry for all the questions but i keep coming up with new ones as the game progresses.
Thanks alot guys!…Sorry for all the questions but i keep coming up with new ones as the game progresses.
No problem, and that’s exactly what this thread is for, keep ’em coming. We’ll do our best to answer all of them.
There are some things in the guide that you can get that certainly are not adding up for me. There is supposed to be a Weathered Rock in Babbling Vale in Mosphoran Highwaste. I’ve looked all over the area its supposed to be, but i’ll be damned if it’s there. Supposed to open up another area.
Revaninja
03-25-2007, 06:51 PM
Not weathered Rock Weathered RUIN. Those Springs near where the Save point is the where the guys say they get their water from? Go up to those and press X and it should ask you to touch the Spring when you do the water will steam and a bunch of Plant balloons will float up you have to do a ceratin order in order to get to the top for the esper as for the Tippet if I picked it up I don’t rememeber where it was sorry.
Nymph
03-25-2007, 07:15 PM
It IS the Weathered Rock, actually. But you don’t need it to get to the chest with the Tippet. ^^
The treasure chest with the Embroidered Tippet IS in the Babbling Vale, but you have to raise the floatweed of the Shrine of the South Wind first. Then ride the chocobo (found in the north-west area) to the next area (Empyrean Way), and cross a path only accesible by chocobos somewhere to the west. You’ll end at the Skyreach Bridge and from there you can enter the part of the Babbling Vale where the chest (and your Weathered Rock) can be found.
The treasure chest has a 50% chance of appearing. If it isn’t there, move away three areas and then go back and try again.
I did this bit just yesterday. ^^
Where do you get the floatweed to rise then? I tried to make something happen with the wind towers but nothing happened.
pimpedoutgeese
03-25-2007, 09:16 PM
Kinda off topic, but IS there any revelancy to Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy XII? There both in Ivalice… and one of the Espers actually was in on the thousand year war…. um… Can’t remember his name and I think he’s actually in Tactics. HASHMAL… that’s the Esper, and if I’m not mistaken you actually hear of him in tactics… but its been a long time since I played FFT so… but your thoughts?
Agent0042
03-25-2007, 09:23 PM
Yeah, they’re both set in the same world — Ivalice, and so feature some of the same races and such, such as the Bangaa.
Nymph
03-25-2007, 09:43 PM
Where do you get the floatweed to rise then? I tried to make something happen with the wind towers but nothing happened.
The Shrines are all in the Babbling Vale. When you walk up to a Shrine you can activate (not all of them work), the (X) button plus the name of the Shrine will appear.
But like someone else already said, you have to pass the Salikawood first. If the Craftsmoogles are at the Babbling Vale, you should be able to get them to work. ๐
pimpedoutgeese
03-26-2007, 03:21 AM
Yeah, they’re both set in the same world — Ivalice, and so feature some of the same races and such, such as the Bangaa.
The Bangaa? I’m trying to remember the Bangaa… oh wait yea you fight them right? There’s probably more to it but hey. Maybe I’ll do some net research
Agent0042
03-26-2007, 04:54 AM
Hey, not all the Bangaa are bad guys. I’m assuming you’ve been the by the Clan — so you know Monid, right? Actually ends up being a pretty cool guy. And there are plenty of other good Bangaa. It’s really like a lot of the other races — some are are good and some are bad. It’s not a blanket thing. Anyway, they’re the ones that like lizard-people.
Hey, not all the Bangaa are bad guys. I’m assuming you’ve been the by the Clan — so you know Monid, right? Actually ends up being a pretty cool guy. And there are plenty of other good Bangaa. It’s really like a lot of the other races — some are are good and some are bad. It’s not a blanket thing. Anyway, they’re the ones that like lizard-people.
I think Pimped might be talking about how he doesn’t remember them in Tactics. It has been a long time for me as well, so I can’t recall if they are in Tactics or not. Reva will know. I remember in the beginning of Tactics Advance Marche calls a Bangaa a lizard and Montblanc has to cover for him rather hastily ๐
Agent0042
03-26-2007, 05:06 AM
Yeah, all right, I’ve actually been playing a bit of Tactics Advance myself and that’s what I was thinking of. I’m actually not much further than that scene, but I definitely plan to play some more of it soon.
Revaninja
03-26-2007, 06:04 PM
Well to answer the question Bangaa only show up in Tactics Advanced Same goes for all races not human that are seen in FFXII. FFT is the origin for a lot of the Monster concepts like Fighting Chocobos as true enemies that you can kill not just a special fight like FFVII. As well as some of the planning of Spells areas are from it nearly all Espers where Lucavi Demons that were bosses though all they share mostly is the Name and Zodiac symbol with an exception here or there. Belias, Hasmal, Adrammelech, Cuchulainn, Zalera, Ultima, and Zodiark all are bosses you fight with either a different Name or character sprite Zodiark was in FFT a Big Golemish creature with a Snake for his Right arm that acted like a Scarf around his neck as well as a Different Name.
FFT and FFTA are the base for a Lot of the things we see in FFXII like Mont blanc for example as well as the Judges(Which in FFTA you can get one to join you) as well as the idea for hunts. A lot of stuff for FFT and FFTA veterans is going to be OH I rememeber that!
Adam C
03-27-2007, 06:03 PM
Hey guys. Quick question. Im on the hunt for the Behermoth King. I have cleared both required areas and have come across the Mandragoras weird things that i fought in the Sochen Cave Pallace. Problem is, ive killed all of them apart from the Alraune King and the Onion Queen. No matter what i do i just cant hurt them. I hit them i do 0 damage, i cast magic on them it does 0 damage. How the hell am i ment to kill them? Its drivin me nuts. And its a little embarassing seen as i just killed Hell wyrm, Fafnir and that massive dinasaur thing outside the Pharos.
Revaninja
03-27-2007, 06:09 PM
I think it is a glitch or they cast enough Stat magic that it nullifies your attacks cast Dispel then if still doesn’t work get out and try again. I had no problem with it other then the large amount of kills I had to do with little to work with the whole 15 kills to complete second page thing.
Adam C
03-27-2007, 06:15 PM
ah shit. yea ive already tried dispell and it was havin none of it. just done a quickening chain on it n it was quite pitifull as well. only around 9000 damage n then they ran off n healed themselfs lol. looks like im gona have to start all over then.
*edit* also while im hear, whats that magic/technique that reverses your mp and hp? that would be alot of help in this situation. Or is it only hell wyrm that can use this ability?
Revaninja
03-27-2007, 06:40 PM
No not only Hellwyrm several other Monsters and bosses use it but it is a monster only ability sorry I know how that could have helped so much aganist some bosses COUGHyizmatCOUGH.
Adam C
03-27-2007, 06:43 PM
Ah rite i thought i read somewhere that it could be brought. Oh well ive stoped trying to kill them things now. gona go take my aggression out on soem undead monsters at the necrol and go on the search for hastega. Thanks for al lthe help!
Revaninja
03-27-2007, 07:05 PM
Though there is an Arcane magic that reverses the effects of Spells Tech etc if it normally hurts it will heal if it heals it will hurt. The spell can be bought in Phon coast and the Murthu bazaar clan provider. Also Rabanastre but I think that it is avabile after Phon coast.
Adam C
03-28-2007, 02:56 AM
Ok another question. Just got a masurmane and Genji gloves thanks to Gilgamesh. But where abouts on the licence board are the Genji gloves? i have every accessory either unlocked or visable and there not there. Where are they? :S
Ok another question. Just got a masurmane and Genji gloves thanks to Gilgamesh. But where abouts on the licence board are the Genji gloves? i have every accessory either unlocked or visable and there not there. Where are they? :S
Oddly enough they are with the rest of the Genji Armor in the lower portion of the grid. Top right, to be exact. All 4 pieces are tied to the same license.
Revaninja
03-28-2007, 03:04 AM
Far upper right corner of the armor section in the lower part known as the equipment half of the Lp board. Look for a quickening tile in that area there should be nothing around it except to the left of that very quickening that is the tile. If you are still confused browse in Gamefaqs they have faqs on the Lp board that will help you out. Also if you can get all the Equipment from Gilgamesh steal from him each time he has a new scene like where he pulls out a new sword or says something different you can get the complete set that way THE only way to get it without codes.
EDIT Hey K- whose the Avatar?
Adam C
03-28-2007, 03:16 AM
Wicked thanks guys. Your so fast lol. Shame you cant get more Genji gloves. Oh wel lcan only get one Masurmane anyway. Thanks! ๐
Revaninja
03-28-2007, 03:33 AM
No you can get a few Masamunes one for the Gilgamesh fight and the other from Bazaar sell 2 gemsteels 3 orichalcums and 2 Mallets. Masamune has 93 attack while Muramasa has 84. Muramasa can be stolen from rare monsters Cyrpt bunny and Avenger also a treasure in pharos.
Adam C
03-28-2007, 03:55 AM
Really? Well I didnt know that ๐ Though im sure theres loads about this game i dont know yet.
So, I’ve been trying to get a Yagyu Darkblade from Bombshell in Lhusu. Now, you can chain him, but it is quite involved and it’s still difficult to me at lvl 67(P)/56. Have any of you guys been chaining to get the following?:
Grand Armor from Helvinek
Grand Helm from Tower
Danjuro from Larva Eater
I’m thinking the best idea is just to put off doing it til everyone is 99. I could pull it off with Bombshell but it’s pretty nervewracking, and I can only chain him to maybe 8 or 9, cause my MP craps out on me eventually.
Looky what I found (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRthG4P49Rc). One of the posts says that it doesn’t work with Bombshell, but even if it doesn’t he can be chained, as I originally said. Should just be a matter of having good enough armor to survive Aeronite strikes and enough MP to chain enough of them. Also, you have to ride the cart to reset your chances of getting Bombshell to appear.
Adam C
03-30-2007, 09:19 PM
Another random question. Went to the clan shop the other day to see if i could buy a bubble belt. They were there so i thought right il buy them later i wana kill this hunt first, went back a few hunts later and now there nto availiable anymore :S DO they disapear from the shop if you go over a certain rank? I hope not, i wanted them lol
Nelzar
03-30-2007, 09:46 PM
i think you might have gained clan rank while doing those hunts, got new items and didn’t see that there was more than one menu while at the shop
Agent0042
03-30-2007, 10:10 PM
Yeah, they don’t disappear, it’s simply in another menu now. Just toggle the menu.
Another random question. Went to the clan shop the other day to see if i could buy a bubble belt. They were there so i thought right il buy them later i wana kill this hunt first, went back a few hunts later and now there nto availiable anymore :S DO they disapear from the shop if you go over a certain rank? I hope not, i wanted them lol
You’ll have to ask Reva or Agent if they come back, but I do know that they do disappear as you said. You can synthesize at least one in the Bazaar though:
2= Battlewyrm Carapace
Drops – Archaeoaevis ….. Zertinan Caverns
– Skulwyrm ……… Zertinan Caverns, The Great Crystal upper layer
Steal – Archaeoaevis ….. Zertinan Caverns
Poach – Emperor Aevis …. Paramina Rift
– Dragon Aevis ….. Stilshrine of Miriam
– Archaeoaevis ….. Zertinan Caverns
1= Adamantite
Drops – Adamantitan ……… Cerobi Steppe
Steal – Thalassinon ……… Phon Coast (rare monster)
Other – Reward of Darksteel Mob/Mark Hunt mission.
– Random reward from Fishing Mini-Game
(Hidden Shoals or Den of the River Lord).
Sephirosuy gets credit for this info, as always.
EDIT: They don’t? I’ll check this right now. I could have sworn they were gone. I believe you Agent, of course.
FURTHER EDIT: They ARE gone. The spell Bubble is still available, but the belts are not on sale. I’m a Paragon of Justice.
Adam C
03-30-2007, 10:44 PM
So they do? I wonder why :S Oh well i spose il just keep casting bubble. Currently getting lost in the Great Chrstal looking for Excalipur. Does anyone know if theres a guide online that tells you where to go to get it fro mthe second you enter the crystal? I wouldnt expect anyoen to type al lthat shit out on here lol ๐
So they do? I wonder why :S Oh well i spose il just keep casting bubble. Currently getting lost in the Great Chrstal looking for Excalipur. Does anyone know if theres a guide online that tells you where to go to get it fro mthe second you enter the crystal? I wouldnt expect anyoen to type al lthat shit out on here lol ๐
From what Agent said, I think they may return, but I’m not going to make that assumption or that claim. I’d PM him, but now that there are new posts in here–and not just my edits–he’ll probably let us know.
I’m not sure why they’d do that either.
Adam C
03-31-2007, 12:07 AM
Well i found the box in the great crysstal. First thing i got was a sages ring and now whenever i try and get more items (ie the bloody excalipur) i just get gil. Does that mean i cant get excalibur now cuw i got the sages ring? Or is it just a case of keep trying?
*edit* ok nevermidn that was weird. Got 2 gil (lol) and then turned to heal myself fro mthe trap, healed myself and turned back n the box was there again, opened it n there it was. Rock on ๐
DeathShining
03-31-2007, 12:15 AM
I never once noticed bubble belts dissapeering from the bazaar shop when i was doing the hunts, ive seen them their everytime after they first appeared, and i did visit the shop inbetween hunts looking for other items, Same with cat ear hood and Nihopalaoa.
Adam C – Yeah the excaliber appears in a second treasure in the same spot, right after you open the first one.
Adam C
03-31-2007, 01:54 AM
Just got my bubble belts back as wel las cat ear hood availiable. Still have no idea why they went. Im a High Guardian now btw ๐
Agent0042
03-31-2007, 04:12 AM
Yeah, I never knew anything of the Bubble Belts disappearing — I don’t know why that would happen.
jinjo
04-04-2007, 07:47 PM
does ne body know how to get the level 99 choco. to come out of hiding. it drops the ribbon accessory that i want. and the other thing i was wantin to know was where to go to get the zodiac spear besides doin that stupid treasure thing. it says in the guide it is in the henne mines i think but you have to have the diamond armulet and i do but have no idea of where to even start looking for it at.
does ne body know how to get the level 99 choco. to come out of hiding. it drops the ribbon accessory that i want. and the other thing i was wantin to know was where to go to get the zodiac spear besides doin that stupid treasure thing. it says in the guide it is in the henne mines i think but you have to have the diamond armulet and i do but have no idea of where to even start looking for it at.
99 Red (Thread 35174) thread.
Doggoneus
04-05-2007, 01:47 PM
You can get a bubble belt for doing the Antlion hunt in Lhusu, but I suppose you knew that.
The Jimbles
04-07-2007, 12:53 AM
I may have done something really stupid. Twice.
1.) I was trying to do the ‘Patient in the Desert’ sidequest and found that I need the Great Serpentskin to give to Dantro’s wife. I am fairly certain that I sold it after I acquired from the Nidhogg hunt in the Lhusu Mines. According to the guide, there’s no other monster that drops a Great Serpentskin. Is that true?
2.) I got all three medallions for the Nabreus’ Medal sidequest. I needed to level up a little more and improve my equipment before going in for the big battles, so I went elsewhere to fight. After levelling up adequately, I went to sell my loot. I wasn’t watching what I was selling as carefully as I should have been, I think. Do the medallions go into your inventory as key items, or just regular loot? Because I don’t see them anywhere.
Let me know if I’ve completely screwed this up. TIA.
the guy watching you
04-07-2007, 01:51 AM
#1-you dont absolutely need the serpentskin to pass the quest,without it you just get a lower reward.
#2-they are key items,so dont worry about selling them.
So, I notice that the smaller merchants get some pretty exclusive items at some point in the game. For example, the one in South Bank village sells Diamond Armlets and the one in Barhiem sells Hermes sandles. One of the ones in Lowtown seems to get some too.
Does this happen after you climb the Pharos?
the guy watching you
04-07-2007, 09:29 AM
for the items im pretty sure the merchants sell them once you reach port of baph. But the good magic isnt available till after pharos.(the merchant in barheim passage sells ardor i think?)
Nelzar
04-07-2007, 04:24 PM
I’m pretty sure that renew can only be gotten after the pharos too, it’s at the area in the westersand that leads into the ogir-yensa sandsea(thats the first one right?)
I’ll go on another tour, but I’m pretty sure I checked the shops after I finished Draklor (i.e., after I reached Balfonheim). I’ll report back.
Kazed2010
04-07-2007, 06:09 PM
Yeah, I got one.. Where can I get the Telekinesis Tecknick??
Yeah, I got one.. Where can I get the Telekinesis Tecknick??
From the hidden Baknami merchant in the Necrohol, after you’ve cleared the Feywood. Until then he only sells Ethers. There is a map of the Necrohol in this thread, I’ll go grab it. See if I can direct you directly to him.
Here (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=765455&postcount=446) it is. Credit to Ultimadream for finding it. The shop is labeled on the map.
EDIT: You have to go to the SE (on the mini-map) corner of the room and an interaction bubble will pop up with "???" Click X and he’ll pop out.
Adam C
04-07-2007, 06:43 PM
Asked this in another thread with no replies so gona ask here ๐ im on the hunt for the Ultima Blade. I know it can be got in a chest in the Pharos Umbra bit. But where abouts is it exactly? Havent been down here before so have no idea lol. Cheers in advance guys.
*edit* foudn a map for it ๐ Just tryin to get there now ๐
Just toured all the smaller shops and the major cities known for "replenishing." No go, it has to be at some point in the future. I’ll keep checking, of course.
Adam C
04-07-2007, 09:27 PM
Found the place but no tresure chest to be seen. Any tips lads?
I think it only shows up a small percentage of the time. Also, I am not aware if you need the Diamond Armlet equipped or not.
You can synthesize it. Let me know if you want the recipe.
Hey I loaned my game to a friend and he is stuck on Garuda (Flying eagle outside of the Tomb of Raithwall). I had no problem getting past him, becuase I was way overleveled, therefore I cannot provide any suggestions for him. He’s around level 15 I think.
Any tips he should need to know to get past him?
*Use ranged weapons
*?
*?
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Hey I loaned my game to a friend and he is stuck on Garuda (Flying eagle outside of the Tomb of Raithwall). I had no problem getting past him, becuase I was way overleveled, therefore I cannot provide any suggestions for him. He’s around level 15 I think.
Any tips he should need to know to get past him?
*Use ranged weapons
*?
*?
*?
Eskir Berries, Eskir Berries, Eskir Berries. If he didn’t pick them up before the fight, let me know and I’ll type out the procedure. I don’t think you can miss the event. They take off a large chunk of the Garuda’s HP. After that whittle him down as best you can and then do the 4 Quickening chain procedure. Bust one out, swap in one new member, bust another, rinse, repeat.
Joey
04-08-2007, 11:58 AM
I used the berries on him and they missed. So I had to resort to changing gambits to Lightning/Fire/Blizzard – Flying
Plus, Vossler’s telekenisis is a miracle worker.
norwigi
04-08-2007, 05:39 PM
I never thought far enoug to use the berries. The quickenings are what got me through this. I think I was a bit overleveled tough…
But back on track, the quickenings is the only tips I got.
Revaninja
04-08-2007, 09:42 PM
Magic go all out there is a save cyrstal right after and a Merchant so you can restock with out a problem. Also spread your guys out a bit the more space the less likely he is to kill you also leveling up helps there is a save cyrstal south west at the very bottom so you can save there then go back and forth killing everything to level up a few levels I suggest level 25 or 23 so you can beat the demon wall 1st easily just a short bit after the bird.
Sorry I have been gone little internet acess and stoned on the post-op drugs plus just plain headaches as well kept me off.
I myself haven’t even heard of these berries.
Please Explain.
Revaninja
04-09-2007, 07:16 AM
Okay about half way in the sandsea you will see a Moogle talking to one of the sandsea bandits sorry forget their name right now the bandit will run off and the moogle will tell you about a [Insert bandits race name here] eater you will see in the next screen the eater attacking some of the bandits let the eater kill the bandits both to save you trouble and to whittle its Hp a little then kill it. Go back to the moogle you will again see a bandit run off talk to the Moogle and it will tell you about a reward track down the bandit and there will be the Berries.
I personally haven’t done this so I can’t explain it better sorry but that is the basics. Also to help hit the bird use the berries with someone who has a Long range weapon they have a better chance to hit.
The hunt for the Urutan Eater is part of the plot, I believe, so just head to the Sandscale Bank area with the regular save crystal and talk to the Moogle. He sends you back into Ogir-Yensa (just head East one screen). Head up the ramp and an event will trigger in which the Urutan who commissioned your help with be punished by the leader of the Urutans. After this you will be able to pick the berries from a plant in the Sandscale Bank area (same place with the crystal).
Thanks for responding Reva. I’m glad to see you’re back!
Doggoneus
04-09-2007, 10:08 PM
Yea, and the berries will keep respawning every now and then. I’m not sure if you have to move a certain number of screens away or something but they do respawn.
Eksir berries dont take off that much hp but they lower Garuda’s attack and defence power slightly, so if you use more than one, you can greatly increase your chances.
Keeping Vossler alive is another tip as his Telekinesis tecknick will allow him to deal normal damage to flying enemies with his non-ranged weapon.
Next, equip your characters with ranged weapons if possible, as they will do more damage than magick and you don’t use your mp.
Finally, use flying>water or flying>thunder gambits for the characters that can’t wield ranged weapons. If they havent got the licences for those magicks, make sure they’re on standby with potions and cure.
They’re the only tips I advise, in that order. Quickenings, maybe, but I didn’t have any at that point and I was overlevelled, so I dont expect anybody to have enough quickenings enabled to get a decent chain going.
Ceidwad
04-09-2007, 11:05 PM
Cast Blind on Garuda to make the fight a piece of cake.
I’m not sure if it is part of the plot. I have beaten the game and have never come up upon the berries. I do remember the one part where you enter the section with a saving crystl and there is a moogle and then one of the Yoda-looking things run away. So does that indicate that I have defeated this thing that was attacking them? x_O
Eh, I guess this’ll just take some time.
I do remember the one part where you enter the section with a saving crystl and there is a moogle and then one of the Yoda-looking things run away. So does that indicate that I have defeated this thing that was attacking them? x_O
Maybe, maybe not. I can’t recall if he runs away BEFORE you fight the Urutan Eater as well. Check your bestiary, if you have an Emeralditan in it, then you’ve fought him.
Doggoneus
04-10-2007, 08:58 PM
You go to that screen with the moogle, and he runs away. YOu then speak to the moogle who tells you about the urutan eater and the treasure. You then go and kill the urutan eater and return to the moogle. You’ll see the urutan run away again but the other way. Follow him into the next screen until you see a cutscene then go back to the moogle. Watch the cutscene and you’ll have your berries.
norwigi
04-11-2007, 05:35 AM
Don’t you have to pick the berries from the plant that appears there? I dont think you just "get" them…
Don’t you have to pick the berries from the plant that appears there? I dont think you just "get" them…
Yes, I said as much:
After this you will be able to pick the berries from a plant in the Sandscale Bank area (same place with the crystal).
Unless you’re talking to Doggoneus.
norwigi
04-11-2007, 12:54 PM
Sorry. I was talking to Doggoneus, and didn’t check furter up.
Now that I look at it, I believe everything about this part is explained 2 or more times each. Maybe its time to close this?
This thread does not close. It is used for all gameplay questions. It’s more convenient than opening new threads for every question. I suggest reading the entire thread to answer any questions you may not have thought of.
Easily my favorite thread here at Shrine ๐
norwigi
04-11-2007, 02:53 PM
Not the tread. I meant the topic.
Sorry if I’m making myself unclear, but I guess my english could have been better…
It is used for all gameplay questions. It’s more convenient than opening new threads for every question.
I agree to some points.
But wouldn’t it be easyer for someone to search for a tread about a certain topic, than to look through this long one? I mean, it’s 27 pages long and still growing.
Revaninja
04-11-2007, 06:26 PM
I read 40 page long threads as a matter of course so I don’t see the problem. As for people searching for it they wouldn’t we once had 4 or 5 threads made to ask basically the same question on why So and so character had silence and the player couldn’t get it off no matter what they did. And all it was is the Dawn Shard accessory which was responsible for it take it off and it goes away. But people didn’t look they don’t even attempt to so they make those threads.
By the way we should sticky this thread to the top page to prevent it from being buried by accident.(Hint Hint Mods)
To further example just how bad it can be there are a few FFXII hate threads we had one person make one of them then he came across to a thread that had been created a few days before and had been in the top of the page during that time and told people the same message and that they shouild go to HIS thread to discuss it. That is how bad some of this BS can get. And the far worse bit is when someone Necro post a thread that has been dead for a long time the longest I have seen was a thread in this very area where someone posted in a thread where the last post was 3 years and some odd months ago.
Thats why a Q&A thread where we can direct people to and close down the BS threads that all ask the same question is better prevents aggression on the more older Shriners and still lets the younger ones ask their questions without being ripped apart.
You can search for a specific thread, or you can just search this one. I just generally meant that this thread is very helpful ๐
There’s a "search this thread" tool up at the top of the page.
norwigi
04-11-2007, 06:41 PM
Cool. I didn’t know that. Thats make it all easyer=)
norwigi
04-12-2007, 12:30 PM
And, I do have a question now!
Is there anywhere i can buy an elixir?
Revaninja
04-12-2007, 04:06 PM
No but you can earn them and make them in the Bazaar through various means. The Bazaar formula is 3 Ambrosia, 3 Demon drink, 1 High arcana. It will be under the name Saint’s draught. I don’t know which Monsters carry this been along time since I have played.
You can also go to Pharos where there are monsters known as Magick Pots while you have to give the Monster an Elixir ro start with you can steal one back and also when you kill it it may drop another Elixir or even a Megaelixir. Also VERY good LP.
Doggoneus
04-13-2007, 12:18 AM
Sorry. I was talking to Doggoneus, and didn’t check furter up.
Now that I look at it, I believe everything about this part is explained 2 or more times each. Maybe its time to close this?
The cutscene makes it extremely obvious you have to pick the berries from the plant, I assume anybody who watched it would know to pick them. I didnt realise I had to be quite so specific.
norwigi
04-13-2007, 07:54 AM
I know. I was just making it (more) clear;-)
And btw, anyone know how much LP you need to fill the whole board? Not counting Espers, of oblivious reasons…
OysterHead
04-16-2007, 03:23 PM
im stuck on a boss and i was wondering where i could get teleport stones to go soemwhere else and train
Norwigi: 13,180LP and then 1705LP for the 13 Espers.
Oysterhead: You need to give us ALOT more info. Who is the boss? Where are you? What is your clan rank?
Tell us where you are and we can tell you if a monster near you drops them.
The stones are sold in the Clan store in Muthru Bazaar based on your rank, and are also sold on the airships when you travel by Liesure Craft.
Let me know something more specific and I’ll gladly help you out.
norwigi
04-16-2007, 05:58 PM
Thanks Knegative. It doesn’t sound that much, but I still got WAY to go…
Revaninja
04-16-2007, 06:05 PM
They are sold by a merchant near the exit of Reddas’s port city I forget its name too used to saying port.
So good places to train are the Caverns which have already been talked about they are in the Western sands as far west as you can go. Good Exp and Lp for awhile as well as an esper is there.
Another good place is Giruvegan first level easy to get in and out plenty of monsters and some rare drops to help with Bazaar items.
Nabudis Deadlands and the Necrohol are also very good but be VERY careful since in the necrohol its easy to get murdered for awhile until you are like level 50-60 then it starts becoming easy. It is located in Salikwoods first beat Bomb King then if going to Necrohol go left on the Y split if going to Deadlands go right. Deadlands and Necrohol are connected to each other. Good Lp and Exp plenty of rare drops, An esper, as well as the much wanted Zodiac spear though speacial requirments discussed to death needed.
Finally THE best places to train is Henne mine Locked area. Level 70 IS A MUST! It is in Henne Mine go to where you found Fran’s sister using the Cyrstal and go to the right of where you came in. The exp and Lp are good plenty of Monster fights espically in the last area where each monster you kill has a good chance of becoming a ghost. If you missed it in Necrohol You can get the Zodiac spear here as well but the chances are LOW, There is THE most powerful Esper Zodiark and you have a tough fight on your hand no matter the level.
Those are some of the best areas each becomes avabile after: Caverns-Raithwall, Giruvegan-Plot point, Nabudis and Necrohol-Salikwoods after you kill Bomb king, Henne mine Locked section-12 Espers in your possesion and finished all Gariff hunts talk to geomancer to get it opened.
Thanks Knegative. It doesn’t sound that much, but I still got WAY to go…
The scary part is I had full boards by the time I reached Golmore for the first time. If you don’t already have them, get yourself 6 Golden Amulets. Party members not currently in the party still get LP! I can’t remember exactly where you get them but Mt. Bur-Omisace is springing to mind.
You can get them and Theif’s Cuffs early if you do the Patient in the Desert sidequest, or the July the Streetear one. Those can be completed right after Raithwall. If you need details on those, let me know.
norwigi
04-16-2007, 06:41 PM
Yeah, I know. I got them in Eruyt village, following a lp/gil guide I found on this page.
OysterHead
04-16-2007, 06:53 PM
well the boss im stuck on is named Tiamat and im in the old cave place. i still cant find a teleport stone
norwigi
04-16-2007, 07:30 PM
As far as I remember, I walked back to Ozmone Plain and did some leveling there. And for the teleportstones, I think you may have to walk all the way back to Rabanastre.
EDIT:
But you should be able to get back there rather fast with a chocobo.
well the boss im stuck on is named Tiamat and im in the old cave place. i still cant find a teleport stone
As far as I know you can just backtrack out of Henne Mines. Unless you mean you couldn’t handle another onslaught of Jellys. Actually you can chain the Jellys to get a teleport stone. Just head back to Pithead Junction B and have at it, if you can handle that.
Doggoneus
04-16-2007, 08:23 PM
Dont the bats drop teleport stones if you chain them?
pimpedoutgeese
04-16-2007, 10:27 PM
Dont the bats drop teleport stones if you chain them?
Yep. Some do, think its a rare drop from em.
BTW how are you guys been awhile since I’ve been online….
Tryin to get the hunt trophies and 2 particulars are irritating me.
1. Is 07 Kaiser Wolf. I think you have to beat Lindbur Wolf before Kaiser shows but I can’t seem to get any of them to appear.
2. Is 42 Anubys. In Sochen Cave I was supposed to walk around in another circle like for the Hell Wyrm… but Im not too sure exactly how. Is it supposed to be a clockwise march from Destiny’s March->Falls of Time->Mirror of the Soul? I’m not sure, if you guys know could ya help me out?
Don’t know why I’m tryin so hard on this file already blew chances for Zodiac Spear and Genji equipment…. just to lazy to keep goin on my new file. I do look forward to fighting Yiazmat again. =)
Do you mean Wendice? You just have to defeat all the enemies in the outer rooms, then head into the center and he’ll be there.
Anubys is in the room where you got the Iga/Koga blade after solving the waterfall puzzle.
I’m going to fire up XII and get you the specific area names for the Westersand areas. Just be a minute.
EDIT: Alright, chain wolves in the Galtea Downs area, though it shouldn’t matter where you chain them. A 20-chain is good enough. Then exit to the secluded section of Shimmering Horizons via the southernmost exit in Galtea Downs. Lindbur will be there. After taking him out, head up into the Corridor of sand. Kaiser will be in the south east corner, at the bottom of the ridge, near the Earth Tyrant’s den.
Doggoneus
04-16-2007, 10:41 PM
Kaiser Wolf – Defeat Linbur wolf in the Westersand, then go to the Corridor of Sand before you leave the Westersand.
Anubys – Yep, Kneg’s right, once you’ve solved the puzzle, go back there.
pimpedoutgeese
04-16-2007, 10:42 PM
Anubys is in the room where you got the Iga/Koga blade after solving the waterfall puzzle.
Thanks K, I don’t think I’m familiar with that puzzle… could ya tell me or link me? Pretty sure I don’t have either blade.
Let me see if I can hunt down a map, it’s pretty involved.
Doggoneus
04-16-2007, 10:48 PM
Starting from the top room, you have to walk in clockwise circles, but dont go down the same path twice. If you use your location map, you’ll see where the waterfall is, there are 5 paths to cross it. Start from the room at the top, move to the right to the far path and go in a clokwise motion back to the room, then do it again with the next path in on either side, then finally do the last path and you’ll get into the room. Each time you enter the area with the waterfall, a note should come up saying that the path of the waterfall has changed.
Thanks for that Doggoneus. It just looks so complicated to put into words on the guide maps :p
Doggoneus
04-16-2007, 10:56 PM
Np.
pimpedoutgeese
04-16-2007, 11:16 PM
Thank you both I figured someone on here knew… Thanks again! Now excuse me, let me kick this bats ass for the headache
If it’s not too late, make sure you keep trying that chest til you get the Iga Blade. It doesn’t respawn and it’s the only place (currently known) that you can get it.
Doggoneus
04-16-2007, 11:36 PM
Hey kneg, just realised ur in Virginia, I heard about those shootings.
Yeah, I have a couple of friends who used to go there. Here’s (
Thread 39097) the discussion thread.
pimpedoutgeese
04-17-2007, 12:00 AM
Got the Iga the first time… Sad about that though, found out in a newspaper this morning, atleast none of your friends were there K
I guess the people who used to shoot in Grade school (9-12) graduated to shooting up colleges…. shame.
Doggoneus
04-17-2007, 06:04 PM
Btw, does anybody know what the battle speed in the config actually does? My first play through it was normal and on my second now it is fast, but I havent noticed the difference. Could someone explain what it does because I cant say I’ve noticed a change.
DeathShining
04-17-2007, 06:20 PM
It speeds up the pace of the battle slightly, if your playing it on the fastest setting, try putting it on the slowest setting and see the difference. Check how fast your attack bar fills on both settings, their is a big difference in speed, at least i think their is.
Doggoneus
04-17-2007, 06:31 PM
I thought it was that, but its not much difference to normal. Berserk and Haste with the speed licences seems extremely fast though, but it was always going to be.
Doggoneus
04-17-2007, 06:32 PM
Blimey it does, i tried it on slow and it is a lot slower.
Smida
04-19-2007, 10:25 PM
My question is about stealing from Espers…
I need two more high arcana in order to get the tournesol… but now when I try and steal from the various espers in the game, all I can take from them are the zodiac gems??? Just wondering why im not able to steal high arcana from them….
As a note I AM using theifs cuffs when I steal, and Ive tried stealing at various points during the battle always with the same result.
My question is about stealing from Espers…
I need two more high arcana in order to get the tournesol… but now when I try and steal from the various espers in the game, all I can take from them are the zodiac gems??? Just wondering why im not able to steal high arcana from them….
As a note I AM using theifs cuffs when I steal, and Ive tried stealing at various points during the battle always with the same result.
I’m not sure, but I have been having the same experience of late. Doesn’t really matter to me as I got my last two High Arcana’s from Bombshell. You could just fight a non-hunt club rare game (that you have the proper monograph for) repeatedly. Chain them if you can.
Doggoneus
04-19-2007, 10:37 PM
There’s unlimited high arcana’s available from the bazaar, or at least they can ap0pear in the bazaar more than once. Not sure what you have to sell to get them.
Yeah you can definitely synth them, but that can be a pain. Fighting a rare repeatedly is sometimes easier than waiting around for Oversouls
10= Arcana
– Many monsters can drop this item especially the rare monster,
as long as you bough the Conapic Jar.
1= Feystone
Drops – Salamand Entite …….. Ogir-Yensa Sandsea
– Leshach Entite ……… Paramina Rift
– Gnome Entite ……….. Dalmasca Westersand
– Sylphi Entite ………. Ozmone Plains
– Mardu Entite ……….. Giza Plains
– Undin Entite ……….. Cerobi Steppe, Pharos at Ridorana (50F)
– Diakon Entite ………. Giruvegan
– Leamonde Entite …….. Nabreus Deadlands
– Storm Elemental …….. Giza Plains
– Ice Elemental ………. Paramina Rift
– Fire Elemental ……… Mosphoran Highwaste
– Earth Elemental …….. Tchita Uplands
– Holy Elemental ……… Feywood
– Water Elemental …….. Garamsythe Waterway
– Bangaa Thief ……….. Cerobi Steppe
– Dark Elemental ……… Necrohol of Nabudis
Steal – Salamand Entite …….. Ogir-Yensa Sandsea
– Leshach Entite ……… Paramina Rift
– Gnome Entite ……….. Dalmasca Westersand
– Sylphi Entite ………. Ozmone Plains
– Mardu Entite ……….. Giza Plains
– Undin Entite ……….. Cerobi Steppe, Pharos at Ridorana (50F)
– Diakon Entite ………. Giruvegan
– Leamonde Entite …….. Nabreus Deadlands
– Storm Elemental …….. Giza Plains
– Ice Elemental ………. Paramina Rift
– Fire Elemental ……… Mosphoran Highwaste
– Earth Elemental …….. Tchita Uplands
– Holy Elemental ……… Feywood
– Water Elemental …….. Garamsythe Waterway
– Dark Elemental ……… Necrohol of Nabudis
– Crystalbug …………. Stilshrine of Miriam, Nabreus Deadlands
1= Soul of Thamasa
Drops – Oversoul …………… Necrohol of Nabudis
Steal – Ishteen ……………. Barheim Passage (rare monster)
Other – Reward of Deathscythe Mob/Mark Hunt mission
Credit to Sephirosuy as always.
Smida
04-19-2007, 11:09 PM
Thanks for the quick relplies! What is an example of a non- hunt rare game that I can chain? I wasnt aware that u could chain to get high arcana from them? Or do i just keep reloading and killing the same one until the high arcana drops?
Thanks for the quick relplies! What is an example of a non- hunt rare game that I can chain? I wasnt aware that u could chain to get high arcana from them? Or do i just keep reloading and killing the same one until the high arcana drops?
Umm, lemme think. Off the top of my head you can chain the enemies that have the rare drops, that way you’re killing two birds with one stone. However, that requires you to be a pretty high level.
So, try Nekhbet instead. Head to the Estersand, the screen before South Bank Village (Sandswept Naze). He’s a cockatrice and he shows up after you kill all the cockatrices. Just make sure you are only killing cockatrices and the chain will get higher without having to just kill him everytime. Once you kill him, head into the Yardang Labyrinth and then into Giza Plains to reset the chances of him spawning. There’s only a 20% chance of him spawning after you kill the other cockatrices but since your chain isn’t based solely on him it shouldn’t take you very long at all.
I’ve never chained him personally, so if it doesn’t work, my apologies. Also, if it doesn’t work post here telling us it didn’t, so we know ๐
Doggoneus
04-19-2007, 11:25 PM
You can have a chain of anything, them when a rare game comes up, if you petrify it and wait for it to turn to stone, not only will you killv it without breaking the chain, the loot will act as if you chained that rare game! For example, you could get a chain of 40 for the wolves in the estersand, then when Nekhbet shows up, if you petrifiy him and wait, you will have a 41 chain and the loot dropped will be appropriate for a 41 chain! Great way to get rare loots from foes who dont spawn quickly, but i think most rare game are immune to stone.
pimpedoutgeese
04-20-2007, 12:09 AM
You can have a chain of anything, them when a rare game comes up, if you petrify it and wait for it to turn to stone, not only will you killv it without breaking the chain, the loot will act as if you chained that rare game! For example, you could get a chain of 40 for the wolves in the estersand, then when Nekhbet shows up, if you petrifiy him and wait, you will have a 41 chain and the loot dropped will be appropriate for a 41 chain! Great way to get rare loots from foes who dont spawn quickly, but i think most rare game are immune to stone.
WOW! And this would work with any mob right? Thats pretty nifty if you can get petrify on them… I think Imma try it out.
WOW! And this would work with any mob right? Thats pretty nifty if you can get petrify on them… I think Imma try it out.
He did say that most rares are immune to stone, but barring that, yeah I think it would. I knew about petrifying to perserve chains, but I didn’t know about getting Loot benefits from the petrified enemy.
That is so cool, Doggoneus! Thanks for sharin!
Neo Xzhan
04-20-2007, 10:35 AM
Thanks for the quick relplies! What is an example of a non- hunt rare game that I can chain? I wasnt aware that u could chain to get high arcana from them? Or do i just keep reloading and killing the same one until the high arcana drops?
Eh there”s a total of 31 rare games that you can only hunt once, because once you’ve killed them, they will never reapear. You know this, because these rare gamers, drop a trophy once you kill them.
Smida
04-20-2007, 06:25 PM
Alright, so I tried that Cocatrice chain. He dropped a High arcana after a chain of about 50, and I was ecstatic…. but I continued to chain till 180 and he didnt drop it again haha. Bad luck on my part I guess. But yeah it worked very well, and I was finding that he appeared everytime that i re-entered the screen. Thanks for the tip!
Not a problem. I’m glad an idea I cooked up off the top of my head worked.
How many more do you need? You know you only need 3 right?
When you’re ready to make your Empyreal Souls and Serpentarius gems, just sell 1 Soul Powder, 2 Wargod’s bands, 2 Serpent Eyes, and 4 Snake Skins. Then sell a High Arcana. You’ll get one ES and one Serpentarius at the SAME TIME.
Then repeat that process 3 times. You’re selling the item they share in common LAST each time so it counts for both of them.
Smida
04-20-2007, 10:44 PM
Haha yeah… thats how I got myself into this mess in the first place… I didnt know that you could do that, so now im stuck getting 2 more ๐
Bummer. Well, depending on your level, why don’t you give Bombshell a shot? He’s on the Lasch Span of Lhusu mines. You might get lucky and get your Yagyu Darkblade and High Arcanas.
You’re going to have to survive the attacks of the Aeronite’s since you can’t petrify them. Run back and forth across the span and once you’ve fought him, ride the cart to reset your encounter chances. Rinse and repeat. I’m going to do that at 99 before I take on Yiazmat, so I can hopefully get two Darkblades.
Otherwise, just synth them. If you’ve got the Canopic Jar, regular arcanas aren’t a problem, and feystones are easy to get from Entites with Theif’s cuffs. Waiting for Oversouls isn’t as bad as I made it out to be. Just kill everything in sight and they’ll find you. You’ll level and get what you need.
Doggoneus
04-20-2007, 11:29 PM
That is so cool, Doggoneus! Thanks for sharin!
No probs. Not many people know that. Its great if you;re just wandering around and encounter different mobs that would break your chain, not only do you keep your chain but you’ll get some decent loot too. Great for those normal mobs that dont show up enough to get a decent chain of them.
Ziggy
04-21-2007, 05:50 PM
How many time can i give run out on the Hell Wyrm to save? is there a limit because i’ve got it’s health down too just under half, but i have to go out in a bit and i’ve already gone back to save once.
never mind, i finished him off in time. I’m slightly disapointed, he was easy.
New question.
mandragora prince, alraune king, onion queen, pumpkin star and topstalk/ bestiary says i need 14 more of each to get their second page. Any idea where i can find them?
Doggoneus
04-21-2007, 09:20 PM
Topstalk is in the Feywood. Mandragora’s are in the Phon Coast, not sure if you’ll find the Mandragora Prince there, and I think there’s Pumpkin Head’s in Salikawood, but again I’m not sure if you’ll find Pumpkin Star there.
sedgeman
04-22-2007, 01:02 PM
New question.
mandragora prince, alraune king, onion queen, pumpkin star and topstalk/ bestiary says i need 14 more of each to get their second page. Any idea where i can find them?
ok to spawn these 5 annoying little monsters you must first defeat all the monsters in white magices embrace and ice filed of clearsight in the feywood
when you have done that go back to white magics embrace and you should find all five of them around one of the feywood glyphs
but heed this: beware of the behemoth king, if you have started the hunt for him he will appear right after you’ve taken out the five mandragoras in the icefield of clearsight and i think you might not be able to reface the mandragoras until you’ve taken care of him and he is one bad boy,
bye now
Ziggy
04-22-2007, 02:49 PM
After defeating Gilgamesh for the second time do you have to do anything with the sword he leaves stuck in the ground?
Nelzar
04-22-2007, 03:53 PM
Nope, all you can do is leave, you can’t pick it up or anything.
sedgeman
04-22-2007, 04:03 PM
ok now heres a question during a fight with gilgamesh he has a blue sword with a head on top of the handle is this by any chance the durandal? if not is it just one of gilgamesh’s weapons because he also had a gun blade and a buster sword replica
Nelzar
04-22-2007, 04:20 PM
I’m pretty sure that the sword you’re talking about is the brotherhood sword (from FFX), at least a replica of it anyway
sedgeman
04-22-2007, 04:28 PM
nah its not the brotherhood
it looks nothing like it
but its blue
has a skull with fangs on top of the handle not sure what it is
Ziggy
04-22-2007, 04:30 PM
Magic pots? what do you do with them?
Nelzar
04-22-2007, 04:33 PM
nah its not the brotherhood
it looks nothing like it
but its blue
has a skull with fangs on top of the handle not sure what it is
I just checked Wikepidia and I think it’s Loto’s sword (from a Dragon Quest game)
sedgeman
04-22-2007, 04:34 PM
magick pots….
u give them elixirs to calm them down then u can just pummel it to deatrh they’re only good for training purposes because bringing one down will bestow with 123 licence points
sedgeman
04-22-2007, 04:35 PM
I just checked Wikepidia and I think it’s Loto’s sword (from a Dragon Quest game)
o right cheers nelzar
After defeating Gilgamesh for the second time do you have to do anything with the sword he leaves stuck in the ground?
I’m pretty sure that is his Wyrm Hero Blade. You can synth your own after felling Omega, Yiazmat, and finishing the Fishing sidequest.
I love how its labeled "Everyday Legendary Sword." Everything about Gilgamesh and your encounters with him are just hilarious and awesome ๐
Doggoneus
04-22-2007, 07:26 PM
I know, just beat him now this very moment, took me 1 1/2 hours to do the second one! I’ve only just done Draklor! But I got my genji stuff so I’m happy.
"Its just an ordinary legendary sword" Lol. Ordinary Legendary, right.
Did he ever get you with his lv.4 Break, Lv.2 Disable, Lv.3 Sleep etc…? Missed everytime on me, gave me some good time to get some healing done.
Doggoneus
04-22-2007, 07:28 PM
magick pots….
u give them elixirs to calm them down then u can just pummel it to deatrh they’re only good for training purposes because bringing one down will bestow with 123 licence points
Whats the exp like? Because if its rubbish then I have no use for them, my licence board is full now and would have definately been by that point had I not trained so much.
I got hit with the lvl spells constantly. That’s why I was switching in and out constantly. My characters were within one level of each other (except Penelo) but for some reason it was just enough variance that they were all getting hit with different ones.
The second fight did take a long time, but I was never down and out. Certainly an argument for keeping all your characters leveled evenly.
sedgeman
04-22-2007, 07:59 PM
Whats the exp like? Because if its rubbish then I have no use for them, my licence board is full now and would have definately been by that point had I not trained so much.
the exp is pathetic nd yh anoter reason for killing them is the very low chance of it dropping a megalixir but i indeed have no further use oif many items now as i have fuly completed this game i just like to help with my wisdom lmao
sedgeman
04-22-2007, 08:02 PM
I’m pretty sure that is his Wyrm Hero Blade. You can synth your own after felling Omega, Yiazmat, and finishing the Fishing sidequest.
I love how its labeled "Everyday Legendary Sword." Everything about Gilgamesh and your encounters with him are just hilarious and awesome ๐
haha that made me laugh when i seen that too and yh that is a replica of the wyrmhero blade as are all of gilgamesh’s weapons but so is the wyrmhero blade that you get in the bazaar goods lol
maybe i just need to check the clan primer more ๐
Doggoneus
04-23-2007, 05:39 PM
I got hit with the lvl spells constantly. That’s why I was switching in and out constantly. My characters were within one level of each other (except Penelo) but for some reason it was just enough variance that they were all getting hit with different ones.
The second fight did take a long time, but I was never down and out. Certainly an argument for keeping all your characters leveled evenly.
My main party all got KO’d once, and I brought out my other 3 to do a quickening chain which only just killed off Enkido, and Balthier had just enough mp left to raise and curaja my main party, he only just did it when they all died, brought out my main 3 and just slowly took chunks off. It got a lot easier without Enkido, I tell you now. My reserve’s still had item gambits set up from fighting Zeromus so they were quicker healing.
The first time I tried to attempt the second fight, I was trying to get from the gate crystal to the save crystal before gilgamesh 2, bloody dark lords and abysteels, wasnt expecting anything so strong, and I ran straight into that berserk trap before the save crystal. GAME OVER, I nearly killed myself.
My main party all got KO’d once, and I brought out my other 3 to do a quickening chain which only just killed off Enkido, and Balthier had just enough mp left to raise and curaja my main party, he only just did it when they all died, brought out my main 3 and just slowly took chunks off. It got a lot easier without Enkido, I tell you now. My reserve’s still had item gambits set up from fighting Zeromus so they were quicker healing.
The first time I tried to attempt the second fight, I was trying to get from the gate crystal to the save crystal before gilgamesh 2, bloody dark lords and abysteels, wasnt expecting anything so strong, and I ran straight into that berserk trap before the save crystal. GAME OVER, I nearly killed myself.
I went down there the second I got the key on the Phon Coast. That was when I realized I needed to dedicate a party member to healing. The real pain was fighting Disma for the Hunt Club down there. I almost never use ranged weapons and he was decimating me with Firaga. I lured him to a zone and struck hard, got killed, zoned, came back and repeated that for a good 15 minutes.
Alright, to get back on topic, here’s a question:
What is Balthier saying during his quickenings? I can make out ‘I’m starting to like this’ and ‘There’s a proper way to do everything,’ but what is this ‘Wavoca"?
Agent0042
04-25-2007, 12:33 AM
Disma was a huge pain-in-the-neck. Not one that should be underestimated.
Hmm, Balthier’s Quickenings — I seem to recall him saying "Heads up!"
Yeah, I’m just curious what Wavoca is, or if that is even the correct spelling.
Ziggy
04-25-2007, 07:29 PM
1. how do you spawn the Behemoth king?
2. I’ve just been running around the Henne mines secret bit just just over 2 hours, I leveled up loads and haven’t yet saved but i’ve hit a problem, Zodiark, i accidently ran in on him and can’t find a way out, is there one or do i just have too try him and hope i don’t die?
Doggoneus
04-25-2007, 07:39 PM
1. When you’ve accepted the hunt, kill all the mobs in the Ice Field of Clearsight and the Edge of Reason in the Feywood, including the mandragoras when they appear.
2. I think you’re stuffed, mate. Just try him.
Gustwindavo
04-25-2007, 07:41 PM
Did anyone fight an entite. Elementals? They re very thought to beat and have too scape from them when they appear
Did anyone fight an entite. Elementals? They re very thought to beat and have too scape from them when they appear
Yes, I can chain them quite high. You’re just too low a level to handle them right now. They will be there when you’re ready.
Nelzar
04-25-2007, 09:38 PM
I’d say you’d have to be around 40-ish (thats what I was).
Ziggy
04-26-2007, 07:01 PM
in the cockatrice side quest, how do get the one in rabanastre to stop running away?
never mind, i worked it out.
Doggoneus
04-26-2007, 09:46 PM
The elementals stay at about lv25b throughout the game, so even ones you encounter later will be easy once you get to the right level.
Same with entites, except they are around 40-45.
ispaht
05-03-2007, 06:01 AM
I’m now at Dreadnought Leviathan and my party’s at level 22. Am I leveled enough?
Doggoneus
05-03-2007, 08:01 PM
Just about, your average I’d say. Besides, dont ask us, just play the game. If you’re not levelled enough, you’ll soon find out and you can just train then.
tkaz84
05-03-2007, 08:05 PM
I have a couple of questions.
First, are bosses that use invert vulnerable to invert? I defeated Braegh (sp?) by using a Reflectga mote and laughing as it inverted itself. =) Can I do this with, say, Cuchulainn?
Second, I know that equipping a Firefly reduces EXP gained to zero. Does that character’s lost EXP get transferred to the other party members or is it just lost?
ispaht
05-05-2007, 10:46 AM
Is it possible to miss some bills if you don’t check the boards regularly? Do the bills posted on the boards stay until you’ve completed that hunt or it disappears when you ignore them?
Neo Xzhan
05-05-2007, 11:49 AM
Nope you can’t.
Bills are unlocked in either two ways:
A new Bill becomes available after defeating a certain (or more) Mark(s).
After major story events.
ispaht
05-05-2007, 01:13 PM
Nope you can’t.
Bills are unlocked in either two ways:
A new Bill becomes available after defeating a certain (or more) Mark(s).
After major story events.
Thanks! I’m concerned because I just came from Dreadnought Leviathan and I haven’t even hunted a single mark.
Agent0042
05-06-2007, 01:06 AM
๐ Rest easy — it’s not possible to screw yourself out of Marks / Bills, etc. This was a concern for me once too — specifically with the "Trickster" Mark. Because Monid said that he was going to go hunt it too and so I thought maybe you could get screwed out of it if you didn’t get it to it fast enough. But it just turns out that you end up fighting it with him and there’s just no way he can "beat you to it."
ispaht
05-06-2007, 03:21 AM
๐ Rest easy — it’s not possible to screw yourself out of Marks / Bills, etc. This was a concern for me once too — specifically with the "Trickster" Mark. Because Monid said that he was going to go hunt it too and so I thought maybe you could get screwed out of it if you didn’t get it to it fast enough. But it just turns out that you end up fighting it with him and there’s just no way he can "beat you to it."
Okay. Thanks again.
Doggoneus
05-06-2007, 12:15 PM
I did that too with the Trickster mark. Yea you can just take it as fast/slow as you want. Personally I hate leaving it to the end because I then have to do loads. Besides, doing hunts early is a great way to train and get some decent weapons/armour etc early on.
Agent0042
05-07-2007, 02:43 AM
Word. It’s probably best to do the Hunts pretty much as they become available. It is nice to know, though, that the game gives you flexibility as to how to do it.
MistisoMan
05-17-2007, 01:12 AM
I am just coming to Giza during rain the first time (not sure if it rains a second time), and Gil Snapper is kicking my ass. Can I do this later, or does the rain go away and I can not?
The rain will go away, but you will able to control it later in the game. Leave him be and fret not, he’ll be there when you’re ready for him.
Agent0042
05-17-2007, 04:18 AM
Just remember if you’re doing it later on, that the sucker only shows up if you get a really heavy rain, so don’t be disturbed if you’re having some trouble getting it to show up — you just have to be patient.
tkaz84
05-18-2007, 12:15 AM
I just received a Rusted Scrap of Armor for defeating the Lindwyrm. It’s a key item, so it must be used for something. I have no idea what that something is.
You’ll be giving it to the Wyrm Philosopher at Windmill #10.
MistisoMan
05-19-2007, 12:04 AM
Okay Im supposed to be going through the jungle near the ozmone plains, but instead I decided to do some mark hunting. I have 2 that are supposed to be in the waterway under rabanastre but one way into the waterway says it is tightly shut, while the other leads to a control room which I need a sluice key for. Can I do these 2 now? White Mousse and Orthros are the 2.
Doggoneus
05-19-2007, 12:32 AM
You dont need the sluice gate key, but it is in that room. When in the control room, there’s all the different routes out of it. I think it’s about the 4th one round from the right but you can get round to the rooms without that key. The map doesn’t show it as there are hidden parts you need to go through, just go exploring and you’ll find the way.
By the way, proof you dont need the key is that you’ll only get the key as a reward from doing one of those hunts.
tkaz84
05-19-2007, 02:21 AM
I’m trying to hunt the Trickster, but it doesn’t appear to be showing up. Is there anything special that i have to do to make it appear in the Frozen Brook?
Kurisutaru
05-19-2007, 03:00 AM
Just keep exiting and re-entering the area. It may take a while, but I got it to show up the first time I entered.
Also, I’m not sure if Monid will tell you that Trickster’s there after you’ve re-entered, so just run around a bit. If you don’t see him, exit then try again.
Agent0042
05-19-2007, 04:20 AM
Yeah, Trickster is true to its name. Just keep trying on that one because it may take you a little while.
Doggoneus
05-19-2007, 10:49 AM
Lol it did it first time for me. I didnt see it coming though ๐
tkaz84
05-19-2007, 10:42 PM
About my previous question, the Rusted Scrap of Armor form the Lindwyrm had nothing to do with the Wyrm Philosopher (the Vyraal Scale did though). What do I do with it?
Doggoneus
05-19-2007, 11:16 PM
Hmm, the rusted scrap of armour, I’m sure the petitioner took that off me because it was proof of the supposed colossi that roamed that land and kept the lindwyrm under wraps.
Yeah, that was my bad. Mixed up Lindwyrm and Vyraal. Sorries ๐ฎ
adesminx
05-21-2007, 12:20 AM
Ages ago I used to watch someone play final fantasy and there were games like a card game and a racing chukobo game. I’m only in the early stages of playing FFXII level 9 or so, I was wondering if there were any games to play to help me move on. Is slaying wolf’s and cacti etc the only way to go up levels. I have killed the tomato guy, the thextura and the flowering cactus. I’ m not really sure where to go and what to do next as the message board has no more hunts on it. Is it just a case of running around? Thanks all
Kurisutaru
05-21-2007, 01:10 AM
The next hunt you’ll be able to do appears after Barheim Passage, which isn’t too far from where you are, I’d think. If you haven’t spoken to Old Dalan in Lowtown, do so. The rest is all pretty straightforward.
And no, no card game in XII. There is a racing game in Balfonheim though, which is quite far from where you are in the story.
Also, the only way to level up is to kill things, so go nuts.
Don’t forget the fishing game.
tkaz84
05-21-2007, 02:21 AM
Killing things is the only way to gain experience, so you’ll be doing quite a bit of grinding throughout the game. This is also the best way to make money, as most of your income will come from selling the loot monsters drop (which is a better way to go than having all monsters drop gil IMO).
If this sounds boring (and it can be at times), that’s what the hunts are for.
Kurisutaru
05-21-2007, 02:28 AM
My advice is to do hunts right as they become available. You’ll probably gain a few levels when trying to find them, and you can get some pretty decent items from the hunts’ petitioners.
And, actually, I find that leveling isn’t at all as tedious as it was in the previous FFs. It’s more fun, and you can actually just let the gambits do most of the fighting for you. xD
ispaht
05-21-2007, 04:26 AM
Don’t forget the fishing game.
What fishing game? Where and when will I be able to do this? What are the rewards by the way?
You can do it after you’ve reached Balfonheim. You have to steal a pole from the guy fishing there (if you can’t figure it out, let me know and I’ll fill you in) and then head to South Bank Village in the Estersand.
You’ll ultimately get Lu Shang’s Badge, which is part of the recipe for the strongest sword in the game–the Wyrm Hero Blade.
ispaht
05-21-2007, 04:42 AM
You can do it after you’ve reached Balfonheim. You have to steal a pole from the guy fishing there (if you can’t figure it out, let me know and I’ll fill you in) and then head to South Bank Village in the Estersand.
You’ll ultimately get Lu Shang’s Badge, which is part of the recipe for the strongest sword in the game–the Wyrm Hero Blade.
Thanks.
I just got out of Jahara and I just beat Gil Snapper. I’m now hunting Cluckatrice but I can’t find it. Dania said I should try talking to the children but I don’t get any hints.
head out to the screen just west of the village and kill everything. Then zone and come back. Cluckatrice is only available during the Dry, as far as I know.
Agent0042
05-22-2007, 04:09 AM
Yeah, that’s right. I actually got messed up on that one — I didn’t know that one only showed up during the dry season and so I kept wondering why I couldn’t find it.
Doggoneus
05-22-2007, 05:16 PM
I saw that the petitioner came from "Giza (dry)" so I just assumed it would only be there in the dry.
adesminx
05-22-2007, 07:20 PM
Ok..what a good way to kill the jelly people???
Doggoneus
05-22-2007, 10:36 PM
Jelly people? Flans? Use magic.
Kurisutaru
05-23-2007, 01:14 AM
I’m pretty sure they’re weak against fire magick.
Doggoneus
05-27-2007, 01:34 AM
Ok, I admit I’m a perfectionist, completionist, whatever you want to call it. Now, I’m trying to get at least 1 of every weapon (apart from the sword of kings, which you lose after the pharos). Only one problem though, I sold my mythril sword (yes, yes, I know I can get one from Omega), but that’s not the problem. I also (think I) sold my mythril blade (Basch’s starter weapon). Now, according to the guide, I can’t get this anywhere. Can anybody verify this? Also, I might be extremely dense but it might be the weapon basch uses in the palace when you play as reks, and that would explain not being able to get it again. Again, could somebody verify this for me?
You’re given the Mythril Blade by Old Dalan, if I’m remembering that correctly, after you return from Barhiem. You have to deliver it to Vossler, and ultimately Basch. I can’t say with 100% certainty, but I think that is the only one available ๐
Whether or not the one Old Dalan has is the same one that Basch uses in the prologue is up for debate.
Hynad
05-27-2007, 02:00 AM
What about it being the one Reks is using during the prologue?
He said:
"Also, I might be extremely dense but it might be the weapon basch uses in the palace when you play as reks"
And yeah it could theoretically be the same sword that Basch used in the prologue. He never said Reks used it, and whether or not it is the same sword is irrelevant to getting it back.
Hynad
05-27-2007, 02:37 AM
What I’m saying is that Reks USES the Mythril Blade. Now it’s been a long time since I looked this up, but I remember that he uses a Mythril made weapon.
Sheesh Knegative, is it so hard to see this in my last post? What I said is that it might be the same sword REKS IS USING in the Prologue… I’ll have to look it up, but I’m pretty sure there are no indication in the Prologue that says Basch is using this sword, while you can easily see what Reks’s weapon is by accessing the menu screen.
No, I couldn’t Hynad. I thought it was a straight out question. Also, I’m going to start a new game right now, because I don’t think you can access the menu in the prologue.
If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, no big deal.
EDIT: Haha, never tried it before. You can, but it’s a Mythril Sword, not a Mythril Blade.
Hynad
05-27-2007, 04:38 AM
Well, thanks now for looking it up for me. As I said, I wasn’t sure. But I remembered it was a Mythril something weapon, as I clearly stated in my last post.
Doggoneus
05-27-2007, 01:05 PM
Thanks for trying to help, Hynad, but it didn’t really matter if Reks used a mythril blade as a weapon. I know that basch has it at some point, whether in the prologue or after he joins your party, maybe even both. If it just in the prologue then I can understand why I won’t be able to get another one, but I think he has it when he joins your party. I’m just annoyed that it seems that I won’t be able to get another mythril blade. I mean, you can even get the mythril sword back (albeit the really difficult way from omega), you’d have thought they put in a way to get the blade back.
Thanks for trying to help, Hynad, but it didn’t really matter if Reks used a mythril blade as a weapon. I know that basch has it at some point, whether in the prologue or after he joins your party, maybe even both. If it just in the prologue then I can understand why I won’t be able to get another one, but I think he has it when he joins your party. I’m just annoyed that it seems that I won’t be able to get another mythril blade. I mean, you can even get the mythril sword back (albeit the really difficult way from omega), you’d have thought they put in a way to get the blade back.
As I said above, he doesn’t have it when he joins your party as a guest in Nalbina Dungeons, but you do end up delivering it to him once he cleans himself up and changes clothes. So, it definitely is in the main game. I still have mine. Though, they probably should have included some way to get it back, seeing as the Sword of Kings doesn’t have a license, if I recall correctly.
It’s almost as if they figured that you’d sell weapons as standard practice at the beginning of the game before realizing that there is an "accounting" system for the weapons (i.e., them being highlighted on their respective licenses) and you’d realize in time not to sell anything else. Hence giving you the chance to remedy you initial folly by giving you a very slim crack at the Mythril Sword.
It’s like the first time I opened Rikku’s overdrive menu. YOU MEAN I REALLY HAVE TO MIX ALL 64 ๐
Doggoneus
05-29-2007, 11:19 PM
Ok, another question for you all. I am currently fighting Yiazmat :O have been for about 15 minutes, and all is going well so far. My question, who of you has beaten Yiazmat already, and what gambits/weapons etc did you use? My strategy seems to be going too well, with it actually seeming easy at the mo, I know its gonna get a lot harder but I was expecting worse than this. Just wondering what you guys thought of him.
Another thing, I know you can gain access to Omega XII during the yiazmat hunt. I’ll still be able to fight him after I kill yiazmat, right? Otherwise I need to come out of this fight now.
bartone02
06-21-2007, 12:55 AM
I have a few questions:
1) When you beat the final boss can you still continue gameplay afterwards?
2) Can I get the genji gloves anywhere other than Gilgamesh?
3) Anyone have a good strategy for beating yiazmat?
Thanks
I have a few questions:
1) When you beat the final boss can you still continue gameplay afterwards?
2) Can I get the genji gloves anywhere other than Gilgamesh?
3) Anyone have a good strategy for beating yiazmat?
Thanks
1. No. You’ll have to fire up your last save outside the Bahamut. Of course you can’t save in the Bahamut, so that’s obvious, I guess ๐
2. No, sorry.
3. There is a thread dedicated to that topic in this forum. It shouldn’t be more than one or two pages back. I’m pretty sure it is called "So…Yiazmat"
Seiryuu
06-21-2007, 01:50 AM
1) I believe not.
2) No.
MistisoMan
06-21-2007, 11:01 PM
I’m trying to get the barheim key and can’t find dantro to get the nebralim. Help?
He’s in the outpost east of Rabanastre. In the middle, sitting on a box, next to a Seeq.
MistisoMan
06-22-2007, 01:40 AM
He’s in the outpost east of Rabanastre. In the middle, sitting on a box, next to a Seeq.He isn’t for me. He’s nowhere in sight of the outpost. ๐ Is there a certain time I can/can not do it? I am currently on my way to Giruvegan.
He isn’t for me. He’s nowhere in sight of the outpost. ๐ Is there a certain time I can/can not do it? I am currently on my way to Giruvegan.
Then I am at a loss, my apologies. Agent might know, he’ll be around. Or someone else for that matter.
Check Southbank village just to be sure, but you probably already have. That’s the only other place he could LOGICALLY be.
Agent0042
06-22-2007, 02:44 AM
No idea. That is pretty late in the game, so I don’t know if anything changes. Are you absolutely sure you’re going to the right place? It’s the Outpost in the Estersand, just before the Yardang Passage. Other than that, I don’t know.
mobster352
07-07-2007, 04:43 AM
i need some tips on fighting gilgamesh the second time
Neo Xzhan
07-07-2007, 06:17 PM
i need some tips on fighting gilgamesh the second time
Whoever your party leader is, equip them with a Bubble belt. Have your Magick user have a Gambit Target Party Leader -> Lure. Careful though, Gilgamesh sometimes does attack all your characters at once. Have someone else equip with the strongest weapon you have + Bravery lay into him with physical attacks. Have your party leader cast Protectga on himself (Gambit) and your Magick user as primary healer.
This should make the battle actually very doable. (If not, a little easy).
terabyte
07-08-2007, 04:38 AM
Also, kill the dog first.
Hey, Agent 0042: I like your sig. *rawr*
Safer Roco
07-08-2007, 06:33 AM
and dont forget to steal the genji equipment
Agent0042
07-09-2007, 06:17 PM
Very true. Remember that each time he "changes forms," a different type of Genji equipment becomes available.
And thanks, terabyte.
terabyte
07-10-2007, 01:03 AM
Yes, if you don’t steal the Genji gloves particularly, the Masamune is worthless and you are a complete failure at everything you do. ๐
Wind_crest
07-10-2007, 02:31 AM
Hi, everyone.
I have one question:
Where I find arcana or high arcanas? I need one of them to buy the tournasol, since I defeated all rare mosters it’s become too diffcult to find those items from other monsters ๐
Thank you
terabyte
07-10-2007, 02:41 AM
If you still have espers to defeat, you can steal HA from them. Caution, though: it’s typically a rare steal and you have to run in and out of battle before you get one. It took me like two hours to get 4 from the freak in Zert. Caverns.
Otherwise, get the canopic jar, kill stuff to pick up arcanas, and farm whatever other loots you need to bazaar them into high arcanas.
Wind_crest
07-10-2007, 02:55 AM
ahnnn, I don’t have any spear to get.
I already have the canopic, but I search everywhere to get the arcanas and no monster seems to drop it ๐
I need the tournasol to defeat Yazmat, he’s with 4 million HP, and it’s the 11 round. Now, he became almost impossible to defeat, he got much stronger then he used to be at the beginning of the battle!!!
terabyte
07-12-2007, 04:37 AM
High Arcana can be bazaar’ed, too. For 1 HA you need
10 Arcana (which ought to be fairly easy to get if you have the Canopic Jar and are willing to run around killing stuff for a while)
1 Feystone: Equip thief’s cuffs and steal from the entites. The easiest one is in the Dalmasca Westersand during the sandstorm. Steal, if you don’t get a feystone, zone out 1 screen and return (the entite will be neutral again and will have a replenished stash).
1 Soul of Thamasa: Can be stolen from Trophy Monster Ishteen or Monograph Dropped from Oversoul’s in Necrohol (rare drop). Consult an FAQ for further guidance.
terabyte
07-12-2007, 04:46 AM
Okay, I have my own question now. Regarding the…Danjuro. >:\ I swore I wasn’t going to go after that damn thing…
I’ve already looked at this (Thread 40168) thread that linked to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9RlQnbIOYs) youtube video explaining an easy(sort of) way to chain necrophobes that leads to 2 consecutive Larva Eater appearances. My question is: does anybody know where you’re supposed to zone?
The vid says to fight the necrophobes, let them divide themselves, and kill off all the "child" ‘phobes, leaving only the "parents." This is in the LeoGateSwitch area, right? Okay, which areas do I zone between following that? It seems to suggest that I just zone between LGS and XIV for about 20 minutes until Larva Eater pops out, is that right? Then kill him, zone out 2 screens, come back, and he’s there again. Kill him again, and then go zone for between 1-9 minutes…where? 1 screen away or 2?
Here’s the map (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/459841/43190) I’m using for reference.
Thanks y’all.
Slavka
01-03-2008, 03:24 PM
I think it’s two zones away (normal monster respawning) and, also, I don’t think you can teleport (might be wrong on that, though…)
Agent0042
01-03-2008, 04:02 PM
Yeah, after around five months, I think the original poster would have already figured that out. I’m going to close this — I don’t see the need for a general Q & A thread anymore.