if any of you have seen them live is it a good show???
If i do remember correct, they were at Ozz Fest last year…So yes.
EDIT: Sorry for posting, but I just realized that I posted in the wrong thread.
Also, anyone who says the drummer of Dragonforce is the best ever needs to be shot in the face. Speed is but one small aspect of a drummer’s skill and it does not define his skill level.
But there’s nothing new and memorable that they offer.
Same for guitarists, and there’s too many people that really screw themselves out of lots of great music because they’re too obsessed with only listening to the most complex shit out there, dismissing anyone not a technical master of their instrument.
It’s not like I’m going to be mad that you say you hate them.
Hmm never heard of them before XD
Check ’em out, sometime. The best BG album I could recommend as an "Intro" course would be "Nightfall on Middle Earth". Warning, though: They come off sometimes as a more Power-Metal-ly version of Queen, so if that puts you off, then no need to investigate a potential headache.
"I must say that Dragonforce sucks live. They’re completely drunk, they fail all the solos, they lost beat, the **** up even during the riffs and it takes freaking 30 seconds to reckon what songs they’re actually playing ’cause they can’t get two damned notes one after the other correctly."
I personally havent seen them live yet, but since they are performing in the "No Fear music tour" i will get to hear them play a couple songs when they come.
Good old Viking Metal.
Genres of music should not be determined by what the band sings about, it should be determined by how they sing, what instruments they use, and how they use them.
Um, what? Should Gore Metal not be classified as such, even though it almost always involves human physiology or the dismemberment thereof? Likewise, if Dragonforce talks about setting sail for a voyage, standing together through the thick and thin, and conquering lands, why shouldn’t I say it’s like what a Viking is likely to believe?
it should be determined by how they sing, what instruments they use, and how they use them.
Yeah, Dragonforce uses guitars, drums, a keyboard, and a bass. So does Rammstein. So do 200,000 other bands on this planet. We NEED classifications.
I consider Viking Metal like Yngwie’s stuff (he’s even got a song called I Am A Viking) music-wise. And Dragonforce plays stuff like Yngwie: very fast. The guitars usually harmonize, as do the vocals, which are in high octaves. The crisp and fine quality of the music also is reminiscent of other bands in the genre, although that’s less of a factor.
And besides, I think Viking Metal is cool. I wasn’t insulting them on any grounds.
You make a good point there. I won’t argue that. But it still doesn’t make it a genre, in my eyes anyway.
Yeah, Dragonforce uses guitars, drums, a keyboard, and a bass. So does Rammstein. So do 200,000 other bands on this planet. We NEED classifications.
I said what Instruments and HOW they use them. Rammstien don not pay as fast as dragonforce. Also they seem…heavier (for lack of a better word). Rammstein also use a synthesizer. Some would classify them as Dance Metal ( I don’t know how many people would agree with that, though). While dragonforce fit well into the Power Metal genre.
I consider Viking Metal like Yngwie’s stuff (he’s even got a song called I Am A Viking) music-wise. And Dragonforce plays stuff like Yngwie: very fast. The guitars usually harmonize, as do the vocals, which are in high octaves. The crisp and fine quality of the music also is reminiscent of other bands in the genre, although that’s less of a factor.
Also a good point I guess, I’ve never heard of Yngwie and I don’t listen to much "Viking Metal" or even Power Metal for that matter. So I don’t know enough to argue with you there.
And besides, I think Viking Metal is cool. I wasn’t insulting them on any grounds.
I wasn’t saying you were. I guess I just don’t like people classifying music by anything other than the instruments. When you classify it by what they’re singing about, its just a step away from classifying music as "Glam Metal" etc.
He’s a noob.
edit: Why wouldn’t you classify something as glam metal if it indeed incorporated elements of glam and metal?
That goes to prove that instrumental skill is nothing, NOTHING without creativity.
also i classify music by what instruments are used personally, the "guitar drum and bass" genre is pretty big though
That’s not uncommon. It’s more difficult to play flawless solos or even just riffs when you’re going at breakneck speed, especially when the solos aren’t improvised (like Meshuggah, as well as some others). You’d be surprised how tight you can make a studio album sound nowadays. But live, everything you play is what goes through the amps, so if they fuck up, there’s no correcting it. That’s why bands like Necrophagist deserve the respect they have: because they perform extremely difficult solos and fast rhythms perfectly in time at their live performances.
lads if i play some random notes a bit of the way up my guitar neck at breakneck speeds will this be an approximation of dragonforce y/n/m
lol honestly…..for most of their songs, yeah. you gotta sweep pick and tap a lot, though.
Here’s a parody of that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwPAewBFVQs&NR
And this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSNLfa1VPwo&NR
lollin
That’s not uncommon. It’s more difficult to play flawless solos or even just riffs when you’re going at breakneck speed, especially when the solos aren’t improvised (like Meshuggah, as well as some others). You’d be surprised how tight you can make a studio album sound nowadays. But live, everything you play is what goes through the amps, so if they fuck up, there’s no correcting it. That’s why bands like Necrophagist deserve the respect they have: because they perform extremely difficult solos and fast rhythms perfectly in time at their live performances.
I understand that perfectly, I just think it’s interesting that these guys are getting so much praise for stuff they can’t even really do. Sure, they’re both a lot better than the average guitarist, but obviously not quite the gods people make them out to be. Oh well, I guess they aren’t the only ones that have exaggerated talent. Whatever, as long as people enjoy their albums I guess that’s all that matters. It doesn’t really bug me, but like I said, it’s just interesting.
Oh, and Necrophagist is awesome <3