The Official Final Fantasy XII Rumble

A couple of other things to point out too:

1. Do not post off-topic stuff in the thread, especially unrelated banter. That is what PMs are for. You are allowed to explain your reasons for voting for a particular character/weapon etc., but open debate in a rumble is frowned upon.

2. Each contest will run for between 24 and 48 hours, depending on how close it is. If it’s clear that one contestant is running away with the battle, there’s no point leaving that battle going for two days and I’ll stop it after 24.

New rule: In order to prevent abuse of the tcs system, any battles with a score of 6 (or more) votes without reply by the other contestant (i.e. 6-0, Agent0042 – formerly 8-0) will be ended, to keep things moving along. Battles in which the losing contestant scores at least one vote will, however, continue as normal.

3. In the event of a tie after 48 hours, the winner will be decided by the points difference (difference between their score and their opponents’ score) they scored in previous rounds. In round 1, or in the event that both have equal cumulative points difference in previous rounds, the winner will be decided by sudden death, ie the next contestant to recieve a vote will win.

4. All votes should be made as follows: You should bold the name of the contestant you are voting for. You can give your reasons in the same post, though this is not mandatory. Please do not post pictures or use any font other than the standard default white.

5. I can vote in all rounds, just for the record.

Anyway, with the boring stuff out of the way, this is the line-up for the first rumble: characters.

First Round:

Vaan 12-2 Reks
Penelo 11-12 Montblanc
Balthier 14-1 Vossler
Ashe 12-7 Gabranth
Basch 12-1 Venat
Vayne 8-4 Fran
Larsa 10-1 Marquis Ondore
Reddas 6-7 Dr. Cid

Quarter-Finals:

Vaan 4-10 Montblanc
Vayne 6-7 Ashe
Balthier 9-4 Dr. Cid
Larsa 5-10 Basch

Semi-finals:

Balthier 9-5 Montblanc
Ashe 7-7 Basch **

3rd/4th place:

Ashe 9-5 Montblanc

Final:

Balthier 10-8 Basch

The second rumble is marks. Here’s the Line-up:

Lost in elimination round:

Thextera, Croakadile, Ring Wyrm, Marilith, Feral Retriever, Atomos, Mindflayer, Roblon, Belito, Diabolos, Piscodaemon, Pylraster, Ixion

First Round:

Shadowseer 6-5 Orthros
Wraith 1-7 Gil Snapper
Wyvern Lord 0-8 Vorpal Bunny
White Mousse 2-8 Deathgaze
Ixtab 6-5 Enkelados
Trickster 9-1 Catoblepas
Bloodwing 3-8 Antlion
Darksteel 1-7 Braegh
Vyraal 5-10 Flowering Cactoid
Lindwyrm 1-8 Overlord
Goliath 2-7 Cluckatrice
Deathscythe 1-7 Carrot
Gilgamesh 6-1 Yiazmat
Fafnir 2-7 Wild Malboro
Behemoth King 4-3 Nidhogg
Rogue Tomato 7-2 Rocktoise

Second Round:

Gil Snapper 3-8 Flowering Cactoid
Vorpal Bunny 9-2 Overlord
Deathgaze 3-7 Gilgamesh
Ixtab 3-7 Wild Malboro
Trickster 8-4 Behemoth King
Antlion 10-2 Carrot
Braegh 5-4 Shadowseer
Cluckatrice 6-7 Rogue Tomato

Quarter-finals:

Rogue Tomato 5-8 Vorpal Bunny
Antlion 7-5 Flowering Cactoid
Trickster 8-1 Wild Malboro
Gilgamesh 7-1 Braegh

Semi-finals:

Vorpal Bunny 0-8 Trickster
Antlion 3-8 Gilgamesh

3rd/4th place:

Vorpal Bunny 4-6 Antlion

Final:

Gilgamesh 8-4 Trickster

The third rumble is Locations. Here’s the line-up.

Lost in elimination round:

Garamsythe Waterway, Dalmasca Westersand, Royal Palace, Barheim Passage, Ogir-Yensa Sandsea, The Shiva, Golmore Jungle, Eruyt Village, Mosphoran Highwaste, Nabreus Deadlands, Tchita Uplands, Draklor Laboratories, Cerobi Steppe, Ridorana Cataract, The Bahamut.

First Round:

Pharos: Subterra 9-3 Henne Mines
Giruvegan 4-7 Giza Plains
Balfonheim Port 7-4 Sochen Cave Palace
Archades 7-8 Pharos (1st, 2nd & 3rd Ascents)
Phon Coast 10-4 Lowtown
Necrohol of Nabudis 8-0 Old Archades *
Salikawood 7-5 Feywood
Aerodrome/Skyferry 6-9 Paramina Rift
Stilshrine of Miriam 6-9 Nalbina Town
Mt. Bur-Omisace 7-3 Nalbina Dungeons
Zertinan Caverns 5-9 Bhujerba
Jahara 3-9 Rabanastre
Ozmone Plain 3-6 Raithwall’s Tomb
Nam-Yensa Sandsea 3-6 Nalbina Fortress
The Leviathan 6-8 The Great Crystal
Lhusu Mines 4-10 Dalmasca Estersand

Second Round:

Pharos: Subterra 3-8 Balfonheim Port
Giza Plains 2-11 Rabanastre
Phon Coast 8-5 Pharos (1st, 2nd & 3rd Ascents)
Necrohol of Nabudis 6-6 Mt. Bur-Omisace **
Salikawood 10-1 Raithwall’s Tomb
Paramina Rift 8-6 The Great Crystal
Nalbina Town 13-2 Nalbina Fortress
Bhujerba 8-6 Dalmasca Estersand

Quarter-finals:

Balfonheim Port 2-8 Bhujerba
Rabanastre 11-2 Paramina Rift
Necrohol of Nabudis 9-2 Salikawood
Phon Coast 10-2 Nalbina Town

Semi-finals:

Bhujerba 7-8 Phon Coast
Rabanastre 7-5 Necrohol of Nabudis

3rd/4th place:

Bhujerba 7-5 Necrohol of Nabudis

Final:

Rabanastre 8-6 Phon Coast

Rumble number four: music. Here’s the contestants:

Lost in elimination round:

411 – To The Place Of The Gods: 3 , 322 – A Moment’s Rest: 3, 408 – The Feywood: 3, 214 – Sorrow (Liberation Army Version): 3, 416 – The Battle For Freedom: 3, 102 – FINAL FANTASY ~FFXII Version~: 2, 109 – The Royal City Of Rabanastre – Town Ward Upper Stratum: 2, 114 – Level Up!: 2, 127 – The Garamsythe Waterway: 2, 128 – An Omen: 2, 129 – Rebellion: 2, 130 – Nalbina Fortress Town Ward: 2, 301 – The Sandsea: 2, 213 – The Barheim Passage: 2, 222 – Challenging The Empire: 2, 224 – Upheaval (Imperial Version): 2, 306 – Jahara, Land Of The Garif: 2, 303 – Sorrow (Imperial Version): 2, 308 – The Golmore Jungle: 2, 311 – Chocobo ~FFXII Version~: 2, 314 – Abandoning Power: 2, 324 – The Mosphoran Highwaste: 2, 403 – The Port Of Balfonheim: 2, 405 – The Zertinan Caverns: 2, 407 – The Forgotten Capital: 2, 417 – The End Of The Battle: 2, 101 – Loop Demo: 1, 111 – The Dream To Be A Sky Pirate: 1, 126 – Parting With Penelo: 1, 116 – Coexistence (Imperial Version): 1, 119 – Rabanastre Downtown: 1, 121 – Quiet Determination: 1, 215 – Basch’s Reminiscence: 1, 203 – Victory Fanfare ~FFXII Version~: 1, 204 – Abyss: 1, 210 – Battle Drum: 1, 225 – The Tomb Of Raithwall: 1, 312 – An Imminent Threat: 1, 315 – The Stillshrine Of Miriam: 1, 316 – Time For A Rest: 1, 320 – Destiny: 1, 409 – Ashe’s Theme: 1, 413 – To The Peak: 1, 414 – The Sky Fortress Bahamut: 1, 419 – Kiss Me Good-Bye -featured In FINAL FANTASY XII-: 1, 421 – Theme Of FINAL FANTASY XII (Production Announcement Version): 0, 415 – Shaking Bahamut: 0, 410 – Giruvegan’s Mystery: 0, 404 – Nap: 0, 310 – You’re Really A Child…: 0, 223 – State Of Emergency: 0, 221 – The Dreadnought Leviathan Bridge: 0, 219 – Dark Night (Imperial Version): 0, 218 – The Secret Of Nethicite: 0, 216 – Coexistence (Liberation Army Version): 0, 209 – The Barbarians: 0, 205 – Dark Clouds (Imperial Version): 0, 206 – A Promise With Balflear: 0, 207 – Game Over: 0, 208 – Nalbina Fortress Underground Prison: 0, 201 – The Princess’ Vision: 0, 124 – A Small Bargain: 0, 120 – Mission Failed: 0, 117 – Signs Of Change: 0, 118 – Mission Start: 0, 108 – A Small Happiness: 0, 106 – Auditory Hallucination: 0, 104 – Infiltration: 0

First Round:

313 – Clash On The Big Bridge ~FFXII Version~ 6-8 103 – Opening Movie
309 – Eruyt Village 5-9 401 – The Cerobi Steppe
123 – Clan Headquarters 8-7 302 – Esper Battle
110 – Penelo’s Theme 0-11* 113 – The Dalmasca Estersand
211 – Theme Of The Empire 10-0* 112 – Little Rascal
212 – Chocobo FFXII Arrange Ver. 1 2-12 217 – The Skycity Of Bhujerba
220 – A Speechless Battle 5-8 107 – Secret Practice
317 – White Room 10-3 406 – A Land Of Memories
115 – Naivety 13-6 122 – The Dalmasca Westersand
420 – Symphonic Poem “Hope” 8-5 321 – The Sochen Cave Palace
412 – The Beginning Of The End 7-8 319 – The Phon Coast
125 – Giza Plains 1-13 323 – Near The Water
304 – Seeking Power 4-9 202 – Clash Of Swords
105 – Boss Battle 9-1 402 – Esper
418 – Ending Movie 8-0* 318 – The Salikawood
305 – Desperate Fight 7-4 307 – Ozmone Plains

Second Round:

211 – Theme Of The Empire 9-5 123 – Clan Headquarters
107 – Secret Practice 9-5 317 – White Room
319 – The Phon Coast 11-2 217 – The Skycity Of Bhujerba
305 – Desperate Fight 7-9 202 – Clash Of Swords
113 – The Dalmasca Estersand 7-8 323 – Near The Water
401 – The Cerobi Steppe 10-3 103 – Opening Movie
115 – Naivety 13-3 105 – Boss Battle
418 – Ending Movie 4-7 420 – Symphonic Poem “Hope”

Quarter-finals:

115 – Naivety 6-7 420 – Symphonic Poem “Hope”
319 – The Phon Coast 10-5 202 – Clash Of Swords
107 – Secret Practice 0-13 401 – The Cerobi Steppe*
211 – Theme Of The Empire 11-3 323 – Near The Water

Semi-finals:

420 – Symphonic Poem “Hope” 3-9 319 – The Phon Coast
401 – The Cerobi Steppe 7-9 211 – Theme Of The Empire

3rd/4th place:

420 – Symphonic Poem “Hope” 0-11 401 – The Cerobi Steppe*

Final:

211 – Theme Of The Empire 7-9 319 – The Phon Coast

The fifth rumble is NPCs. Here’s the line-up:

First Round:

Marquis Ondore 9-2 Pilika
War-chief Supinelu 6-4 Gramis Solidor
Ktjn 6-4 Pirate Olympians
Migelo 7-8 Ba’ Gamnan
Gran Kiltias Anastasis 1-10 Moogling Moogles
Old Dalan 3-12 Drace
Mjrn 10-5 Jules
Al-Cid 11-0 Jovy*

Quarter-finals:

Marquis Ondore 7-5 Moogling Moogles
Drace 11-3 Ba’Gamnan
Mjrn 9-3 Ktjn
War-chief Supinelu 5-8 Al-Cid

Semi-finals:

Al-Cid 10-2 Mjrn
Marquis Ondore 10-5 Drace

3rd/4th place:

Mjrn 2-7 Drace

Final:

Al-Cid 9-2 Marquis Ondore

The sixth rumble is Quotes. Line-up:

First Round:

The Sweet Dalmascan Air 7-0 I Do Not Sleep. I Dream.
No Right 5-2 You’re Going To Her Aid, And That’s That!
The Brothers Match Wits 4-5 The Party Enters The Imperial City Of Archades
Keep your snout in the trough where it belongs 3-10 I’m Captain Basch!
Resistance, Not Insurgence 6-5 I Daresay I’ve Soiled My Cuffs
All Hail Vaan 2-6 Surprisingly Rude
Dalmasca’s Desert Bloom 7-2 The Death of Lord Rossler
Surrender Without Terms 2-9 Some ‘Eynah’, Or Was it ‘Venat’?
Gods know, he deserves it 7-5 Wise Old Dalan
What is it you’re after, Balthier? 9-1 That I be considered worthy
The Reins of History 9-2 I want to fight
Bahamut, Lord of the Sky 9-0 Close enough for fisticuffs
Beyond Your Ken! 5-6 The Leading Man Never Dies
Bones/Treasure/Fall 7-0 Unwelcome, Unsought Guest
Believe What You Want To 7-1 Lord Larsa is no puppet
Knocking On The Front Gates VS You Can Never Know Another

Second Round:

I’m Captain Basch! 3-2 Bahamut, Lord of the Sky
The Sweet Dalmascan Air 4-3 Bones/Treasure/Fall
No Right 3-3 The Leading Man Never Dies**
The Party Enters The Imperial City Of Archades 0-6 Believe What You Want To*
Resistance, Not Insurgence 0-6 What is it you’re after, Balthier?*
Surprisingly Rude 3-2 Some ‘Eynah’, Or Was it ‘Venat’?
Dalmasca’s Desert Bloom 2-4 Gods know, he deserves it
The Reins of History* 5-0 You Can Never Know Another

Quarter Finals:

I’m Captain Basch 3-6 Surprisingly Rude
The Sweet Dalmascan Air 4-7 Believe What You Want To
No Right 5-6 What is it you’re after, Balthier?
Gods know, he deserves it 1-8 The Reins of History

Semi Finals:

Surprisingly Rude 4-3 The Reins of History
Believe What You Want To 1-5 What is it you’re after, Balthier?

Final:

Surprisingly Rude 6-1 What is it you’re after, Balthier?

Third Place: The Reins of History

The seventh rumble was Rare Game! This rumble has been suspended!

Phyllo 2-3 Vagrant Soul
Aeros vs. Fidaliant

The eighth rumble is Location Music!

Round 1:

The Golmore Jungle 2-4 To the Peak
Ashe’s Theme 6-0 Giruvegan’s Mystery*
The Forgotten Capital Jahara, Land of the Garif
Rabanastre Downtown 4-3 Secret Practice + The Port of Balfonheim
The Skycity of Bhujerba 7-0 A Land of Memories*
The Secret of Nethicite 1-6 The Garamsythe Waterway
The Stilshrine of Miriam 7-0 The Dalmasca Westersand*
The Sandsea 0-6 To the Place of the Gods*
The Dalmasca Estersand 7-4 Clan Headquarters
The Mosphoran Highwaste 6-4 Ozmone Plains
Eruyt Village 3-6 Seeking Power
The Zertinian Caverns 4-3 An Imminent Threat
Naivety 8-1 Giza Plains
The Salikawood 3-5 Near the Water
Theme of the Empire 4-5 The Royal City of Rabanastre
Nalbina Fortress Underground Prison 2-6 Challenging the Empire
The Beginning of the End 6-3 The Cerobi Steppe
The Feywood 2-6 A Moment’s Rest
The Phon Coast 5-2 Nalbina Fortress Town Ward
The Sochen Cave Palace 5-2 The Barheim Passage

Round 2:

A Moment’s Rest 5-2 Near the Water
Rabanastre Downtown 3-4 Dalmasca Estersand
The Stillshrine of Miriam 2-5 The Phon Coast
The Sochen Cave Palace 1-6 To the Place of the Gods
The Mosphoran Highwaste 4-3 Ashe’s Theme
The Forgotten Capital 3-4 Naivety
Seeking Power 5-1 Challenging the Empire
The Skycity of Bhujerba 4-2 The Royal City of Rabanastre
The Zertinian Caverns 4-7 The Garamsythe Waterway
To the Peak 2-7 The Cerobi Steppe

Round 3:

The Mosphoran Highwaste 2-6 Seeking Power
The Garamsythe Waterway 1-7 To the Place of the Gods
A Moment’s Rest 6-2 The Skycity of Bhujerba
The Phon Coast 2-4 The Cerobi Steppe
The Dalmasca Estersand 2-5 Naivety
Knocked Out: Seeking Power

Semi-Finals:

To The Place of the Gods 4-3 The Cerobi Steppe
A Moment’s Rest 5-2 Naivety

3rd Place – The Cerobi Steppe 4-3 Naivety

Final:

A Moment’s Rest 3-5 To The Place of the Gods

*battle ended by knockout
**battle ended in draw, resolved on tcs (no longer used)

I hate the both of them.

I will be voting for my main party members over all comers, jftr 🙂

Because Reks was overly under-used ( What about letting us control him again in some other flashback scenes? Or maybe just SHOW him more in one of those scenes?)

Vaan was fun to see grow, and his personality through the game was a comic relief at times (yeah, there was Balthier too, of course).

Reks had potential to be a great character, but, like everyone has said, was underused.

It hasn’t even been five days since the proposal of this rumble, yet things are already moving swimmingly.

Bang-up job, Ceidwad.

Vaan 12 – 2 Reks

The younger brother cruises through to the second round.

Battle 2:

Penelo vs. Montblanc

Penelo

Vaan’s friend. Dislikes the Empire, but doesn’t believe in stealing from them, unlike Vaan. Tends to be fairly reserved and serious, but also shows an offbeat, playful side occasionally.

Montblanc

The moogle-tastic leader of Clan Centurio, and a snappy dresser into the bargain! Gives you rewards for fulfilling defeating bosses, gaining new hunt ranks and fulfilling other criteria.

FIGHT!

The leader of Clan Centurio rocks!

Also, new rule: any votes in the form of pictures will not be counted from here on. 😀

The moogle-tastic leader of Clan Centurio

kneg

he is awesome i vote for awesome things

Good job Goonzilla!

j/k. I feel loved :love: :love: :love: Thank you, everyone. It was a valiant effort.

Despite some questionable rumble ethics from Knegative, Montblanc proceeds to the next round. Hard lines for Penelo, but she went out with a bang at least.

Battle 3:

Balthier vs. Vossler

Balthier

The James Bond of FFXII.

Vossler

Member of the Dalmascan resistance against Archadia. Not sure whether to trust Basch after the announcement by Marquis Ondore.

FIGHT!

Vossler’s…

…

I really don’t know.

Please win anyway, Balthier.

Never been too fond of traiters.

…

…

lolVossler.

Reminds me of James Bond in a way.

Balthier.

Balthier 14-1 Vossler

The Sky Pirate sails through.

Battle 4:

Ashe vs. Gabranth

Ashe

The deposed princess of Dalmasca. Has no apparent sense of humour, but has a strong desire to do right by her kingdom.

Gabranth

One of the Judges and brother to Basch. Wields a fantastic-looking double edged sword.

FIGHT!

Ashe

EDIT: It’s just that the description is more "Woah’ DUDE" for Gabranth. But yeah, voting for Ashe is a way to counter that… somehow.

It’s true though, Ashe does have no sense of humour. I am not being biased (I mean, I actually voted for Ashe) but just stating a fact. If you would care to disprove/debate that fact, you’re free to start another thread but for God’s sake don’t start an off-topic debate in here. This is a rumble.

Don’t reply to this. I don’t want to have to argue in this thread. If you do reply, I’ll just ignore it. If you absolutely must debate it, PM me.

is one of the most developed characters in the game and by far the most developed villain. Plus he has the best character design. Ashe was pretty cool too but only really begins to shine in the last 10 hour or so. Plus I think Yoshida took a page from Nomura’s book when it came to her character design, which is never a good thing.

Ashe is copycat with ridculously skimpy clothes for a warrior and Gabranth is what Balthier should have been.

Gabranth didn’t play enough of a role.

Agreeing.

My vote goes to Gabranth.

Ashe 12-7 Gabranth

Dalmasca’s Desert Bloom triumphs over the Imperial Judge.

Battle 5:

Basch vs. Venat

Basch

The former Dalmascan soldier trying to prove his innocence to his public and his princess. Looks awesome when equipped with a Claymore.

Venat

The ‘fallen angel’ of the Occuria, he assists Cid and Vayne throughout the game.

FIGHT!

Venat wasn’t exploited enough to be any threat to Sir Basch Fon Ronsenburg!

Didn’t even know the occurians had their own names.

Not much of a contest there. The captain sees off the Occurian without much fuss.

Battle 6:

Vayne vs. Fran

Vayne

The Lord Consul of Dalmasca, and later leader of the Empire.

Fran

Balthier’s partner. Takes care of the Strahl’s maintenance. Joins your party after the events in the Royal Palace.

FIGHT!

Just wondering, does anyone know how the Viera reproduce? They all appear to be female.

Just a comment about him. ThroneOfOminous said that his characterisation wasn’t as good as some other villains from past entries. I remember Kefka being the number one choice for the "best FF villain ever", yet all he have for himself is a psychotic behavior with almost no lines. Vayne was at least twice better characterised wirh more subtleties. He may not have the charisma of a Kefka or a Kuja (and should I recall people that charisma and characterisation are 2 different things) but his motives were well developed throughout the game. It wasn’t the typical "I want to rule the world" villain, and for all that, he was a fresh take on a villain.

A low turnout on this one. Vayne comes through it with relative ease.

Battle 7:

Larsa vs. Marquis Ondore

Larsa

Younger brother of Vayne. Joins your party on a few occasions.

Marquis Ondore

Bhujerban leader. Plays a part in the resistance against the Empire in secret, despite trying to uphold a smokescreen making it look like he is co-operating with them.

FIGHT!

I never thought much of Ondore except how I hated the voice actors’ choice of saying "mar-kwiss" rather than "mar-kee". Meh. >.>

He was pretty helpful in the Lhusu Mines.

At the very least, his voice actor was actually able to ACT!

Larsa 10-1 Marquis Ondore

An easy win for Larsa.

Battle 8:

Reddas vs. Dr. Cid

Reddas

A pirate from Balfonheim Port. Joins your party to exorcise his demons regarding Nabudis.

Dr. Cid

The barmy boffin of Vayne’s nethicite research team. Wields a pair of guns, as well as a variety of technological and magical gizmos.

FIGHT!

Reddas’s significance was in his death and nothing else. To me he was just another guest in the party I’d kill off just so he wouldn’t rush in foolishly and mess up my plans. >.>

Actually, I liked Dr. C too, though. Tough decision.

That’s a scary picture actually, wierd ex-druggy smile, like the Joker, The Dark Knight’s gonna rock! Not.

Reddas 6-7 Dr. Cid

Cid squeaks through on sudden death and joins Vaan, Montblanc, Balthier, Ashe, Basch, Vayne, and Larsa in round 2, which will begin shortly, once I’ve done the draw. To view the match-ups, check the first page.

Round 2, Battle 1:

Vaan vs. Montblanc

Vaan

The main character of FFXII. You encounter him just after you finish the scene with Reks. He is hates the Empire-but show me the true Dalmascan who doesn’t? Came through the first round with an easy victory against Reks.

Montblanc

The moogle-tastic leader of Clan Centurio, and a snappy dresser into the bargain! Gives you rewards for fulfilling defeating bosses, gaining new hunt ranks and fulfilling other criteria. Qualified for round 2 by edging the hardest-fought contest in round 1, no doubt in part due to Knegative’s ‘tactics’, 12-11 against Penelo.

Anyway,

FIGHT!

EDIT: Montblanc

because he’s a
snappy dresser

Montblanc 10-4 Vaan

The moogle marches on.

Round 2, Battle 2:

Vayne vs. Ashe

Vayne

The Lord Consul of Dalmasca, and later leader of the Empire. Overcame Fran in the first round, winning 8-4.

Ashe

The deposed princess of Dalmasca. Has no apparent sense of humour, but has a strong desire to do right by her kingdom. Won her first round match 12-7 against Gabranth.

FIGHT!

Ashe was also great, but I think Vayne was more developed.

Vayne 6-7 Ashe

Round 2, Battle 3:

Balthier vs. Dr. Cid

Balthier

The James Bond of FFXII. Won a hugely one-sided contest 14-1 against Vossler in the first round.

Dr. Cid

The barmy boffin of Vayne’s nethicite research team. Wields a pair of guns, as well as a variety of technological and magical gizmos. Just barely made it into round 2 after a close win against Reddas.

Fight!

But it was a close call.

He’s very suave and has a good attitude towards everything.

Balthier wins that one fairly comfortably.

Round 2, Battle 4.

Basch vs. Larsa

Basch

The former Dalmascan soldier trying to prove his innocence to his public and his princess. Got through the first round in a landslide, winning 12-1 against Venat.

Larsa

Younger brother of Vayne. Joins your party on a few occasions. Another to have won comfortably in the first round, 10-1 against Marquis Ondore.

Won’t be updating this tomorrow for reasons which don’t exactly require a detective to work out, but I’ll be back on the 26th for the semi-finals. I anticipate a close contest here anyway, which means it may well have gone 48 hours in normal conditions.

Anyway, Fight!

At first he seemed like an annoying brat but I eventually got used to his character.

Well, I’m going for Basch here.

Larsa was also great, and it’ll sadden me to see him leave so early in the rumble.

Anyway,

Basch 10-5 Larsa

The captain goes through.

Semi-finals coming up shortly.

Without further ado let’s get cracking with the first battle.

Balthier vs. Montblanc

Balthier

The James Bond of FFXII. Reached the semis courtesy of 14-1 and 9-4 wins over Vossler and Doctor Cid respectively, for a total cumulative score of 18.

Montblanc

The moogle-tastic leader of Clan Centurio, and a snappy dresser into the bargain! Gives you rewards for fulfilling defeating bosses, gaining new hunt ranks and fulfilling other criteria. Won 12-11 and 10-4 in previous rounds against Penelo and Vaan, making a tcs of 7.

Fight!

I think this will be the hardest fight for me overall. They are both some of my favorite characters and I had a hard time choosing.

My favorite character in FFXII (predictable huh? Well he’s just that great! :P)

Even though I voted for Balthier, I have to agree to that. They were great in IX and Mog from VI is probably the best of the lot, but the lot of them in FF XII were quite charming and I enjoyed seeing them evolve through the story. They had an actual society going on, and I was happy to see many of them. Especially Tetran, which reminded me of Stiltzkin form IX.

(Sorry Ceidwad… I just couldn’t help commenting on that. Even if it’s mostly pointless. ^^)

Also, Tetran and Stiltzkin were sort of similar, but Stilzkin > Tetran, by a long way, in my opinion.

Back on topic anyway………6-5 to Balthier. Keep getting those votes in, I’ll give this another 24 hours I think.

As for moogles being the best, I think they were only good in FFIX before animal research labs started putting clothing on them(which I think is inhumane…)

Balthier 9-5 Montblanc

James Bond v.2 triumphs over Stiltzkin v.2. Balthier will be in the final, Montblanc goes into the third place play-off.

Second semi-final:

Basch vs. Ashe

Ashe

The deposed princess of Dalmasca. Has no apparent sense of humour, but has a strong desire to do right by her kingdom. Won 12-7 and 7-6 in previous rounds, giving her a total cumulative score of 6.

Basch

The former Dalmascan soldier trying to prove his innocence to his public and his princess. Boasts an impressive tcs of 16 thanks to 12-1 and 10-5 wins in previous rounds.

Fight!

I can’t believe Montblanc lost.

Agree

Basch

But first I think we should decide 3rd and 4th.

3rd/4th place play-off:

Montblanc vs. Ashe

Montblanc

The moogle-tastic leader of Clan Centurio, and a snappy dresser into the bargain! Gives you rewards for fulfilling defeating bosses, gaining new hunt ranks and fulfilling other criteria. Won 12-11 and 10-4 in previous rounds against Penelo and Vaan, but lost out in the semi-finals against Balthier by 9-5. Therefore has a tcs of 3.

Ashe

The deposed princess of Dalmasca. Has no apparent sense of humour, but has a strong desire to do right by her kingdom. Won 12-7 and 7-6 in previous rounds, but it wasn’t enough to see off Basch in the tied semi-final, as he had a superior tcs. Ashe does hold an advantage in the event of a tie in this match though, having a tcs of 6 to Montblanc’s 3.

Let the fight for 3rd place begin!

Gonna have to vote for Ashe though. Simply because Montblanc wasn’t all that important to the story. Sure he’s a great character, but Ashe is more important.

I doubt he will win this battle though.

Interesting spin on who will be bestowed with the title (the honor) of better/lesser loser, in my opinion!

Ashe is really boring and isn’t developed as well as she could be

Ashe 9-5 Montblanc

Despite a valiant effort from Montblanc, Ashe walks away with the third place.

And in true Olympic spirit, that means she will get her name highlighted in bronze on the first page, where the list of all winners/runners-up in all FFXII rumbles etc will be kept, in comemmoration of the achievement. Just call it my own personal touch, if you will.

The final will be coming up in just a moment.

Balthier

The James Bond of FFXII. Reached the final courtesy of 14-1, 9-4 and 9-5 wins over Vossler, Doctor Cid and Montblanc respectively, for a total cumulative score of 22.

Basch

The former Dalmascan soldier trying to prove his innocence to his public and his princess. Has a tcs of 16 thanks to 12-1 and 10-5 wins in previous rounds, which helped him win through in the tied semi against Ashe, but will not be enough should a tie occur this time.

These two characters are worthy finalists and I’ve no doubt you’re itching to get voting, so for the final time in this rumble-

FIGHT!

he had his own airship along with Freya. I don’t think Basch had his own airship now did he?

Yesssssssssss! It’s like having your own car and Basch is a pedestrial bum!

he had his own airship along with fran. I don’t think Basch had his own airship now did he?

corrected my mistake agent. I guess I mixed the names up. sounded too similar in my mind.

And I have to go Basch here, for the good fight. Unlike Slavka, I’m optimistic. Maybe he can scrape this one out. And he was definitely the more interesting character to me.

he had his own airship with freya
Thinking of FFIX? I’m guessing you meant Fran.

It’s great to see the 2 of them in the finals. They are both my favorite characters in the game.

Agent, feel free to use as few or as many of my ideas as you want. It’s not like I have them under copyright or anything, and besides, if you think implementing some of my ideas would improve your rumbles it would be a real honour, as I always find your rumbles to be excellently run.

Anyway, I am sure that the rest of you are now reaching for the sick bags due to the overly adulatory nature of this mutual back slapping, so I’ll shut up now and let you guys get on with voting. 😀

but I must give credit to Balthier – the guy who dares to run in such a tight trousers deserves respect

My reasons will stay my own ~^

I favor both characters, but I’ll have to go with the Leading Man.

My vote goes to Balthier.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Balthier is our champion!

Balthier 10-8 Basch

I expected a good battle and this didn’t disappoint. Balthier and Basch went blow for blow throughout before Balthier just pulled ahead at the end. Basch has had enough time to muster a comeback now I feel, but nothing has materialised.

Thank you to everyone who has participated in this rumble. Over the next couple of days, I’ll be taking nominations for the subject of the next rumble, as well as hearing general suggestions on how I could improve the rumble. Am I updating too often? Too rarely? Are the rules about tcs and sudden death the right way to settle tied rumbles, etc.? The next couple of days will hopefully bring together some interesting ideas.

As for the next rumble… What about a cut-scene rumble? I don’t recall any of the rumbles going for that particular subject.

It could be pre-rendered cut-scenes of in-game ones, or even both. But I think it could be interesting.

I was personally thinking of locations as the next rumble, and we’ll probably do bosses and hunts somewhere along the line too. I will add cut-scenes to the list if we all of us can decide on a good way of doing it as well as actually finding enough cut-scenes in the game for the minimum 16-contestant rumble.

I wasn’t thinking about every cut-scenes there is in the game. Just the most significant ones. The ones that push the story forward. I was wishing for something new and unique for a change.

Oh well, let’s do the same as with all the other rumbles. Not that it is getting old anyways…

Right

There are only 13 Espers, so go for that. You can take a guide and copy every infos there is. That’s lazy, but that’s how it has to be. 😛

As for Espers, I can’t do them just on their own, as there’s only 13 Espers in the game and you need to have at least 16 for a rumble, to be totally honest.

ThroneofOminous-Bosses and Marks will, I think, be seperate rumbles. I’m undecided on whether I should do a seperate rumble for optional bosses (such as the Earth Tyrant, Hell Wyrm, plus Necrohol of Nabudis bosses) and maybe include the optional Espers in that, and put the compulsory Espers in the ‘normal’ bosses rumble.

That sounds like a better idea, actually. Although, how do you plan on classifying bosses like the first Demon Wall (which you encounter during the plot but don’t have to actually defeat) or Elder Wyrm (which was designed to be compulsory but ended up being skippable due to an oversite by the developers)?

As for Elder Wyrm, I think I’ll stick it in with the storyline ones. To be honest, although it is optional, there’s a pretty decent chance you’ll get killed on your trek through the southern part of Golmore Jungle and through the Feywood if you do try to skip it. And, since it was at least intended to be compulsory, that qualifies it for the storyline rumble in my opinion.

Other than that, Marks sounds good.

Espers? But most people don’t even like this game’s summon system, at all.

As for music, it might be an idea to give people some time to ‘legally obtain’ the soundtrack before starting a music rumble. I can barely name 3 tracks on the OST and I’m one of the few who thought it was fantastic.

As for Espers, I think ThroneofOminous has it right. The Espers will be included in the bosses rumble based on whether they were optional or compulsory. They will mostly, as Ominous says, be voted for as to their appearence and the battle against them, as summoning is teh suck in FFXII.

Am I the only one interested in doing locations?

EDIT: These are full mp3s though, not MIDI files. I doubt MIDI files exist at this point.

Anyway, I agree with Mierna on both.

As for your post ThroneofOminous, it’s the entire site that wasn’t working. I have no idea why, though my internet is somewhat tempremental and may have something to do with it. I’ll be back in university later today, so I’ll give it a go on the computers there and get back to you.

Regarding cutscenes — they aren’t up at the main FFShrine site yet? And if not, isn’t there surely another site somewhere that has pictures of them?

On the serious tip, I didn’t know it was still being updated. I haven’t seen it since i registered and it was out of date then, iirc.

The main site has MIDIs and FMV photos for most of the games.

OK, I think we should all take a vote on what we’re going to do next. We have a good variety of categories to choose from, including the two above as well as optional bosses, storyline bosses, marks, and locations.

We’ll have a mini-rumble to decide I think; the one with the most votes after 48 hours gets the gong. That seems the fairest and most democratic way of deciding. I’m sticking with locations by the way, even though I don’t expect it to win.

Edit — That is, unless we’re still considering either Music or FMVs for this edition, in which case I throw my support behind Music, or FMVs if Music is still considered too problematic.

Thanks to gamefaqs.com, here’s the full list of marks.

Rogue Tomato – Rank I
Thextera – Rank I
Flowering Cactoid – Rank I

Wraith – Rank I
Cluckatrice – Rank I
Rocktoise – Rank I

Nidhogg – Rank I
Wyvern Lord – Rank II
Croakadile – Rank II

Enkelados – Rank II
Gil Snapper – Rank III
Ring Wyrm – Rank III

White Mousse – Rank V
Orthros – Rank V
Marilith – Rank V

Ixtab – Rank II
Feral Retriever – Rank III
Trickster – Rank V

Antlion – Rank V
Vorpal Bunny – Rank III
Atomos – Rank III

Mindflayer – Rank IV
Braegh – Rank IV
Bloodwing – Rank V
Carrot – Rank VII

Roblon – Rank VI
Darksteel – Rank IV
Vyraal – Rank V
Lindwyrm – Rank V

Overlord – Rank VI
Belito – Rank V
Goliath – Rank VI
Deathscythe – Rank VI

Gilgamesh Part 1 – Rank VII
Gilgamesh Part 2 – Rank VII
Deathgaze – Rank VII
Diabolos – Rank VII

Piscodaemon – Rank V
Wild Malboro – Rank VI
Catoblepas – Rank VI

Fafnir – Rank VII
Behemoth King – Rank VII
Pylraster – Rank VII

Ixion – Rank VI
Shadowseer – Rank VI
Yiazmat – Rank VIII

One thing I should note is that I haven’t completed a handful of the hunts yet, mostly the later ones. I have highlighted these ones in bold. So, I’d appreciate some descriptions of those hunts from people who have completed them.

The process of elimination is the hard part. Since only 32 can feasibly be accomodated, we need to remove 14. My suggestion for how to best do this is thus-I’ve divided all the marks into 14 groups of either 3 or 4, and we each vote to eliminate one that we don’t like from each group. The ones with the most votes go into the rumble dustbin. In the case of a tie, I’ll decide myself. Although this system isn’t perfect, it is probably the quickest and most decisive way.

If others have ideas as to either how to eliminate the 14 marks necessary, or just general ideas regarding the rumble, now is the time to post them. If no-one else comes up with any ideas in the next 24 hours or so, I’ll start the vote of elimination.

Apologies that this is taking a while to get started, but there is not a lot I can do about it. Hopefully, it’ll be started by the end of the week.

As for the bolded ones, they are ones I haven’t completed and may not be able to provide a detailed description for.

Here’s my list:

Rogue Tomato
Wraith
Nidhogg
Ring Wyrm
Orthros
Trickster
Antlion
Mindflayer
Lindwyrm
Deathscythe
Diabolos
Piscodaemon
Pylraster
Shadowseer

Thextera
Wraith
Nidhogg
Enkelados
White Mousse
Feral Retriever
Atomos
Braegh
Vyraal
Belito
Deathgaze
Wild Malboro
Fafnir
Shadowseer

Flowering Cactoid
Wraith
Croakadile
Enkelados
Marilith
Feral Retriever
Vorpal Bunny
Braegh
Darksteel
Deathscythe
Diabolos
Piscodaemon
Behemoth King
Ixion

sorry Ceidwad_yr_Arfau, guess I wasn’t paying attention to that part.

I won’t count your votes unless you edit them to comply with the rules, I’m afraid.

I stop there since I haven’t gotten to the other marks yet so I don’t know yet…

Thextera
Rocktoise
Crokadile
Ring Wyrm
Merilith
Feral Retriever
Vorpal Bunny
Braegh
Roblon
Belito
Diabolos
Piscodaemon
Pylraster
Ixion

Anyway:

Thextera – Gave me my first of 7 game overs, but still wasn’t as memorable as the other to comedic marks.

Rocktoise – Not much of a fight.

Croakadile – I don’t even remember him.

Enkelados – Boring.

Orthros – Prefer the Mousse.

Feral Retriever – Who?

Atomos – Who??

Mindflayer – Easy. :/

Lindwyrm – I like it when I’m given incorrect directions to my mark.

Belito – Who?

Diabolos – I dislike cheap tricks with palings.

Piscodaemon – What?

Pylraster – Great fight, but not as "epic" for me as the other options.

Ixion – Same as above, really.

Thextera
Croakadile
Ring Wyrm
Marilith
Feral Retriever
Atomos
Mindflayer
Roblon
Belito
Diabolos
Piscodaemon
Pylraster
Ixion

In the case of ties, I flipped a coin, just for the record.

I’ll post the first round fixtures up on the first page of the thread in about 20 mins or so.

Edit: Fixtures are up, but I counted one too many hunts before the elimination round, so Rocktoise gets a reprieve for now.

Shadowseer – Rank VI vs. Orthros – Rank V

Shadowseer – Rank VI

"God or Devil?" asks the hunt title for this foe. I wish I could give you the answer, but I never fought him myself, unfortunately. Looks cool, though.

Orthros – Rank V

A flan-like monster. Will only appear if you have Fran, Ashe and Penelo in your party. How’s that for sexism? Also, possibly a call-back to Ultros from FFVI. On the bill, his picture looks very similar, I think.

Anyway, I do declare this rumble started, so let’s fight!

I also thought that it was fairly interesting how the petition bill for The Seer gives you a clue as to where to find him, in case you didn’t already put two and two together as you fought the sub-bosses within Ridorana Cataract. The battle is no straight-forward pull, either, as you’re forced to defeat his minions prior to getting your hands on him. It wants to play~

Never fought shadowseer but if I did I probably would’ve voted for him.

Shadowseer 6-5 Orthros

A close battle, but the Ultros-wannabe surrenders to its higher-ranked adversary.

Next battle:

Wraith – Rank I vs. Gil Snapper – Rank III

Wraith

Fought in the Gamarmsythe Waterway, bill posted by Milha because a Lowtown child was afraid of it and had locked itself in its room. Uses classic ghost attacks such as ‘Doom’ and the like.

Gil Snapper

Bansat of Clan Centurio joins you on this hunt. In order to reach it, you need to create an improvised bridge by cutting off tree trunks. You can steal a lot of gil from it, which is nice.

Fight!

I expected to get a lot of money out of the hunt but oh well.

Gil Snapper 7-1 Wraith

Not nearly as close as the first battle.

Next battle:

Wyvern Lord – Rank II vs. Vorpal Bunny – Rank III

Wyvern Lord

You find it in the Nam-Yensa Sandsea-it cannot be harmed with melee attacks and is pretty powerful, depending on when you take it on. A good challenge.

Vorpal Bunny

Hunted in the Golmore Jungle. It prefers to run away rather than fight, which can be surprisingly diffcult to overcome since it will aggro many other monsters in the process.

Fight!

I might have just glossed over it, and I apologize, but was there a specific criteria set forth for voting? Like, in the General Rumble, not too long ago, we did a rumble where we voted on enemy designs.

Are we voting on something that specific (e.g., difficulty of fight) or is it basically whatever you feel like voting for, for any given reason. My votes for Orthros and Vorpal are definitely based on design.

So the short version is, no, nothing specific.

Wyvern lord was too easy when I faced him.

Well, that was barely a contest, was it? An easy passage through for Vorpal Bunny.

Next battle:

White Mousse – Rank V vs. Deathgaze – Rank VII

White Mousse

A flan-type monster that uses status attacks and Waterga. Found in the Garamsythe Waterway; if you win, you’ll get the Sluice Gate Key allowing you to explore the GW further.

Deathgaze

Another of those I’ve yet to battle, unfortunately.

QFT

It gave me a really hard time right as I was about to kill it. Almost wiped both my parties out immediately. don’t know what went wrong but I barely killed it.

White Mousse 2-8 Deathgaze

Next battle:

Ixtab – Rank II vs. Enkelados – Rank II

Ixtab

Fought in the Henne Mines; will only appear if your MP bars are full. Has numerous attacks that affect your MP, making it an annoying battle.

Enkelados

Found on Ozmone Plain. A Slaven-type beast that generally just uses physical attacks.

Fight!

QFT, And Enkaldos was nothing special, to say the least.

I think I remember fighting Enkelados and a rare game in the same area at the same time. kinda annoyed me but made me happy when I killed em both.

Ixtab

Ixtab 6-5 Enkelados

Ixtab steals it on sudden death.

Next up:

Trickster – Rank V vs. Catoblepas – Rank VI

Trickster

Another that I haven’t fought, so no description, sorry guys.

Catoblepas

War-Chief Supinelu assists you in tackling this behemoth-type monstrosity. It generally uses physical attacks, which it can enhance with Bravery.

Catoblepas was way too easy. Trickster was a little more of a challenge especially when HP critical.

If you enjoy fighting people who are temporarily invincible ;p

Catoblepas was piss easy.

Anyway, on with the rumble.

Trickster 9-1 Catoblepas

And it’s Auf Wiedersehen to the huge green behemoth. Sorry, Supinelu.

Next up:

Bloodwing – Rank V vs. Antlion – Rank V

Bloodwing

Difficult to get to, since it’s in the Barheim Passage. An over-sized blood-coloured bat that uses standard vampire-related attacks and generally drains HP and MP.

Antlion

A mantis-type creature that attacks quickly and can also Cannibalise to grow stronger. Fought in the Lhusu Mines.

Antlion — it’s supported by a number of minion mantises and I always thought it was a tough fight.

Trickster has a guest character.

Anyway, Antlion. I like Hunts that open up a lot of things.

For "flashback" glory alone.

… now, gotta return to Keipo and heal Rosa…

Antlion — it’s supported by a number of minion mantises and I always thought it was a tough fight.

Antlion was a great mark incapacitated both my teams twice.

I’m glad I beat it the first try. I didn’t expect it to be surronded by so many other enemies.

Bloodwing 3-8 Antlion

Antlion wins comfortably there. Moving on……

Next battle

Darksteel – Rank IV vs. Braegh – Rank IV

Darksteel

A Great Tortoise fought in the Sochen Cave Palace, it combines strong physical attacks with status changing moves.

Braegh

Fought in the Salikawood, generally uses Thunder-elemental attacks, if I remember correctly.

Fight!

I’ll go with Braegh…attacked him with the Sledgehammer and next thing you know, he’s disabled…made me very happy…

I hate all the tortoise monsters

Darksteel was a dissapointement. thought I would find it harder.

Breagh rodeos on to the next round, as we reach the halfway point in Round 1.

Next battle:

Vyraal – Rank V vs. Flowering Cactoid – Rank I

Vyraal

A mutant Aevis hunted on the Cerobi Steppe. Uses all the normal Aevis attacks, such as Sonic Fangs, but also has the ability to use Restore repeatedly, mening you could be in for a long battle. You are joined by a Viera Wayfarer for this hunt.

Flowering Cactoid

A Cactoid hunted in the Dalmasca Estersand. It’s main ‘attack’ is to run away and aggro everything else on the screen. It also has a high physical defence and can use Potions, plus it will use 1000 Needles at HP Critical, thus making it very difficult if you undertake the hunt when it first becomes available.

Fight!

Also I doubt anyone else will vote Vyraal.

I’ve always liked the little cactus monsters

That thing was hard the first time I tried it!

I’ve always liked the little cactus monsters

Flowering Cactoid 10-5 Vyraal

The little menace wins through.

Next battle:

Lindwyrm – Rank V vs. Overlord – Rank VI

Lindwyrm

An unusual mark in that it requires very specific conditions to appear. Hunted in the Tchita Uplands.

Overlord

The Insecure Seeq helps you out in battle against this club-wielding Headless. Usually, he gets killed, too, at least whenever I’ve tried it. The Overlord is characterised by overwhelmingly strong physical attacks.

Fight!

I thought the overlord was going to be a pushover judging by how much HP I saw it had. I knew I’ve faced monsters with much more but overlord gave me beating over and over again. I evntually gave up after about the sixth try and came back about 5 level ups later and finally killed him.

Don’t you give it to the guy in Old Archades? Or was it the viera in Balfonhiem?

Can’t recall.

Either way, Overlord

Can’t recall.

Either way, Overlord

The viera is the petitioner for Vyraal, and the Old Archades guy (Lindwyrm’s petitioner) doesn’t take it, he just comments on it after you collect your bounty. I forget what he says, probably makes some kind of joke about it cause he’s a storyteller and all. Other that that you keep it and it has no use as far as we know.

Not because I particularly liked it but because the petitioner for the Lindwyrm told you to go to the wrong area – I spent hours trying to get it cloudy in the wrong place!

Overlord ‘lords it over’ the ‘wyrm. (sorry for that dreadful pun)

Next up:

Goliath – Rank VI vs. Cluckatrice – Rank I

Goliath

An Augmented Automaton living in the Necrohol of Nabudis. Despite its brutish appearence, it mostly attacks with magic.

Cluckatrice

Why hunt one mark when you can hunt five? The Cluckatrice and her four children present a formidable challenge compared to other Rank I marks.

Fight!

Much more interesting to fight, and though Cluckatrice was a little bit of a challenge (when you’re playing a "fight marks as they come" game), it wasn’t a FUN challenge, more of an annoying fight. Goliath also had a more interesting petitioner, but he had a fun little attack pattern. Plus, the five Nalbina hunts seemed to amuse me most with the whole Jovy thing. So, unless I have a better reason any one of those five will automatically get my vote.

I just hate the Automatons

Goliath was damn easy. Cluckatrice didn’t die even when I used a quickening on it. Probably would have been a better idea to save my MP for healing in that battle but still, it was hard.

Stupid XII chimeras and their synonymousness with Full Metal Alchemist draw me away from respecting any form of their species.

Goliath 2-7 Cluckatrice

Just like David v Goliath, only this time, David won. 😀

Next up:

Deathscythe – Rank VI vs. Carrot – Rank VII

Deathscythe

Haven’t undertaken this hunt, so can’t say much about it. Looking at the bill, it appears to be an undead spirit similar to Ixtab.

Carrot

It’s a Malboro. Need I say more? Oh, and Kjrn from CC joins you on this one. So I actually did need to say more……

…..anyway, fight!

Deathscythe was a very ordinary mark.

I’m gonna go with Deathscythe because it’s the underdog and I found the whole idea behind it pretty funny with it haunting his dreams and all. Reminded me of Freddy.

Not to say that Carrot wasn’t… but it seemed an original enough idea that you have to have two people in red to spawn it. Carrot was tough, but it wasn’t fun-hard like Trickster, it was annoying-hard. Fucking Stop and Disease…

because it’s name is a food and it was my 2nd favorite of all malboros in the game.

Deathscythe 1-7 Carrot

The living vegetable wins through.

Next fight:

Gilgamesh Part 1 & 2- Rank VII vs. Yiazmat – Rank VIII

I haven’t fought either mark, so I won’t be giving any descriptions and will abstain from voting in this round. If someone wishes to give a description for both later in the thread which I could then use for later rounds, they are more than welcome to.

I also need descriptions for Fafnir and Behemoth King, neither of which I’ve taken on, so if anyone cares to drop me a PM, that’d be great. I won’t twist anyone’s arm though.

Fight!

He was the best mark in my opinion, and Yiazmat drove me insane (it took 8 hours of nonstop playing to bring him down)

If there’s anything that can beat Yiazmat in something like this, it’s Gilgamesh.

who doesn’t get joy out of killing monsters with 56 million HP

Gilgamesh 6-1 Yiazmat

It seems most of you agree with me that uber-bosses are dull.

Next:

Fafnir – Rank VII vs. Wild Malboro – Rank VI

Fafnir

I haven’t fought it, so you’ll have to rely on your own descriptions, sorry.

Wild Malboro

It’s a Malboro that’s wild. Starts with several Malboro minions and uses the numerous status-inducing attacks typical of Malboros.

Just another three to go and the first round will finally be completed.

Fight!

figuring out the snowstorm was just annoying

Fafnir is more of a challenge, and it’s not even the snowstorm, fuck the snowstorm, that was nothing. But I don’t owe it anything after TWICE i spent two hours on it and lost and nearly wrecked my console, and when I finally did it cost me 6 elixirs and 2 megalixirs and like 20 ethers. Hell, that’s the only boss I ever actually used megalixirs in.

Hell, even Behemoth King is easier. Whoever’s bright idea it was to put them in that order and even program Fafnir needs to be strapped to the wall and White Breath-ed a bunch of times.

Also, go go Norse Mythology/Wagner reference.

I was at level 60 something and Fafnir still took forever. I’d resorted to hiding round the corner, charging my MP (no items left) and using Thundaga when I could.

The poisonous plant wins easily.

On to our penultimate fight of the first round:

Behemoth King – Rank VII vs. Nidhogg – Rank I

Behemoth King

Haven’t fought it, but I assume it uses all the standard behemoth attacks, mostly physical.

Nidhogg

Fought in the Lhusu Mines and uses powerful physical attacks. You can win the Great Serpentskin as a reward for this hunt which is useful in another sidequest.

Fight!

Also for the extra sidequest that follows it.

A tight contest with low turnout, but the King wins.

The final battle of this marathon first round, then:

Rogue Tomato – Rank I vs. Rocktoise – Rank I

Rogue Tomato

Your first hunt, the only mandatory one in the game. It only has two attacks, Ram and Flame Breath.

Rocktoise

One of Montblanc’s hunts. Defeating it is tough if you take it on at the earliest possible moment, but well worth it for the reward of a Heavy Coat, something not available through normal means until quite a bit later.

Fight!

It was such a cute critter! ^^

I thought it was cute, and the Rocktoise was just boring

I must say that I thought it was a pretty hard battle

Anyway, Rocktoise. Simply because it was much, much more challenging than RT, if you do them both when they initially come up. Whereas the Rogue Tomato was just no challenge whatsoever. I know it was the first hunt in the game and they don’t want to make it too tough, but seriously, even at Lv 1 I didn’t have to use a Potion.

Rogue Tomato eases through to join the other 15 Round 1 winners in Round 2.

And so the first round draws to a close. The second round will begin sometime around midday tomorrow (as in, midday UK time). On request of one of our voters, I’ll be introducing pictures of the marks wherever possible. Until then, if there’s anything else you want to discuss regarding this rumble, do it now. I’ll be happy to hear suggestions on how I could improve it.

First up:

Gil Snapper – Rank III

Bansat of Clan Centurio joins you on this hunt. In order to reach it, you need to create an improvised bridge by cutting off tree trunks. You can steal a lot of gil from it, which is nice. Won 7-1 against Wraith in Round 1.

vs.

Flowering Cactoid – Rank I

A Cactoid hunted in the Dalmasca Estersand. It’s main ‘attack’ is to run away and aggro everything else on the screen. It also has a high physical defence and can use Potions, plus it will use 1000 Needles at HP Critical, thus making it very difficult if you undertake the hunt when it first becomes available. Won 10-5 against Vyraal in the first round, in the battle that drew the highest voter turnout in the rumble so far.

So, without further ado, fight!

I’m suprised everyone is voting for the flowering cactoid. I found it to be a dull and easy hunt. Atleast the gil snapper took a little bit of a challenge to kill and it was located where you find the feather of the flock which was conveniant.

Y’know, with the name "Gil Snapper" I expected a lot of gil as a reward…

Not a particularly close contest there. Flowering Cactoid marches/waddles on.

Next up:

Vorpal Bunny – Rank III

Hunted in the Golmore Jungle. It prefers to run away rather than fight, which can be surprisingly diffcult to overcome since it will aggro many other monsters in the process. Won a landslide 8-0 victory in Round 1, against Wyvern Lord.

vs.

Overlord – Rank VI

The Insecure Seeq helps you out in battle against this club-wielding Headless. Usually, he gets killed, too, at least whenever I’ve tried it. The Overlord is characterised by overwhelmingly strong physical attacks. Came through Round 1 by beating Lindwyrm 8-1.

It was annoying, but at least it was somewhat memorable…

I didn’t like chasing that bunny around everywhere, I like it when the monsters fight like a man and don’t run away.

It was annoying, but at least it was somewhat memorable…

Big victory for the little mark. Vorpal Bunny moves on to the next round.

Next battle:

Deathgaze – Rank VII

One of those I’ve yet to battle, unfortunately. However, it certainly proved popular in Round 1, winning 8-2 against White Mousse.

vs.

Gilgamesh – Rank VII

Another I’ve yet to fight, so I won’t be voting in this one. Many, however, make him favourite to win the entire rumble, which is praise indeed. Won against Yiazmat by 6-1 in the first round.

Fight!

But yeah, if it were just about any other Mark…

Quoted from the first page, when I rebuked Knegative over posting a picture of Penelo. 😀

I’m not doing this just for the sake of it; pictures really throw me off when it comes to counting votes. I know you did text as well as the picture Agent, but please stick to text-only from now on (and the same applies for everyone else, obviously). Thank you.

I hate doing this, but underdog vote for Deathgaze.

I’m suprised everyone is voting for the flowering cactoid. I found it to be a dull and easy hunt.

Because they’re so CUTE >.<

Deathgaze

I was dissapointed with Gilgamesh. In comparison to the VIII and X versions he just seemed less diginified when he first started talking. I don’t remember VI that well but he may have had a similar attitude then. IX’s version was also assertive but vulnerable in terms of persona but whatever, he just sounded dumb in XII.

Because he carries around so many damn swords.

Deathgaze

I was dissapointed with Gilgamesh. In comparison to the VIII and X versions he just seemed less diginified when he first started talking. I don’t remember VI that well but he may have had a similar attitude then. IX’s version was also assertive but vulnerable in terms of persona but whatever, he just sounded dumb in XII.

Umm… when was he in X or IX? When? Did I miss something?

Gilgamesh cements his status as rumble favourite with a fine win over the popular Deathgaze.

Next battle:

Ixtab – Rank II

Fought in the Henne Mines; will only appear if your MP bars are full. Has numerous attacks that affect your MP, making it an annoying battle. Progressed through the first round at the expense of Enkelados, edging a close battle 6-5 after sudden death.

vs.

Wild Malboro – Rank VI

It’s a Malboro that’s wild. Starts with several Malboro minions and uses the numerous status-inducing attacks typical of Malboros. First round result: won 7-2 against Fafnir.

Fight!

lol I love how so far this one’s winning both rounds because people hate the other one.

And Agent, you fight with Krjn against Carrot, not the Wild Malboro…

I had no problem beating ixtab at all. May have been the easiest hunt I ever did.

No reprieve for Ixtab this time. Wild Malboro moves on as we move into the second half of Round 2.

Next battle:

Trickster – Rank V

I’ve yet to battle it so can’t comment. However it certainly proved popular in round one, practically wiping the floor with Catoblepas 9-1.

vs.

Behemoth King – Rank VII

Haven’t fought BK either, so will abstain from voting, but I assume it uses all the standard behemoth attacks, mostly physical. Won by a more modest 4-3 in the first round, against Nidhogg.

Fight!

Behemoth King was just another Fafnir – a long, boring fight requiring no strategy…

Gonna be Trickster for me here too, BK bored me somewhat.

BK wouldn’t know what to do against this white blur. Might take a while, but Trickster would whittle him down eventually.

BK wouldn’t know what to do against this white blur. Might take a while, but Trickster would whittle him down eventually.

Let’s see, boring high-HP monster requiring little real strategy vs. cool bright-white Chocobo.

I’m sorry but when I came across that hunt, and I wasn’t that far ahead of when it became available, that fight didn’t last thirty seconds of connecting hits. I was just like…~.? at the end..yes it’s pretty but there’s more worth in the lvl99 Red Chocobo..if i ever rent the game to continue hunting for that..peace!

No great problem there for Trickster, which looks like it will do well in the rumble.

Next:

Antlion – Rank V

A mantis-type creature that attacks quickly and can also Cannibalise to grow stronger. Fought in the Lhusu Mines. Won 8-3 against Bloodwing in Round 1.

vs.

Carrot – Rank VII

It’s a Malboro. Need I say more? Oh, and Kjrn from CC joins you on this one. So I actually did need to say more……anyway, it did a number on Deathscythe in Round 1, winning by 7-1.

Fight!

I loved the hunt and it had a funny story with it, and the whole thing with the key and Phon… yeah.

A glut of votes gives Antlion a very comfortable victory.

On to the penultimate battle of the second round.

Next up:

Braegh – Rank IV

Fought in the Salikawood, generally uses Thunder-elemental attacks, if I remember correctly. Won 7-1 in Round 1, against Darksteel.

vs.

Shadowseer – Rank VI

"God or Devil?" asks the hunt title for this foe. I wish I could give you the answer, but I never fought him myself, unfortunately. Looks cool, though. First round: 6-1 vs. Orthros.

Fight!

Eh, I’ll go for Shadowseer

Braegh didn’t give me any problems. Shadowseer is quite a different story, however…

A close call, but Braegh goes onto the quarter-finals.

Now for the final match-up of this round:

Cluckatrice – Rank I

Why hunt one mark when you can hunt five? The Cluckatrice and her four children present a formidable challenge compared to other Rank I marks. Beat Goliath 7-2 in round 1.

vs.

Rogue Tomato – Rank I

Your first hunt, the only mandatory one in the game. It only has two attacks, Ram and Flame Breath. Saw off the challenge of Rocktoise in Round 1, winning 7-2.

Fight!

Note that I am not attacking you personally, so please don’t take this the wrong way. 😀

Also, I have now added this, plus the picture voting controversy, to the rumble rules section.

Also the second: I forgot to vote again. Cluckatrice for me.

It was your first hunt, and I thought it was cute

Here I also learned some differences between wait and active modes which made me change my whole outlook on battle in the game.

All of this could have happened against any tough opponent, I suppose, but Cluckatrice happened at the right place and time for me. This was also good practice for me for tough battles with multiple enemies. After the smoke cleared, I was far more prepared for groups of foes than before.

Rogue Tomato’s just a typical brainless introductory battle. Nothing special.

And how did Seer lose to a sparkling horse? Quock.

Next vote wins it.

Rogue Tomato

P.S.:

nd how did Seer lose to a sparkling horse? Quock.
Word up.

Unfortunately, Agent is right. The Rogue Tomato goes through to the quarter finals.

Next round will begin in around 24 hours from now. Until then, it’s a free thread, so post suggestions/questions/reaction if you wish. Just keep it loosely on-topic.

First battle:

Rogue Tomato – Rank I

Your first hunt, the only mandatory one in the game. It only has two attacks, Ram and Flame Breath. Saw off the challenge of Rocktoise in Round 1, winning 7-2, and proceeded to beat Cluckatrice 7-6 on sudden death in Round 2, giving it a tcs of 6.

vs.

Vorpal Bunny – Rank III

Hunted in the Golmore Jungle. It prefers to run away rather than fight, which can be surprisingly diffcult to overcome since it will aggro many other monsters in the process. Won a landslide 8-0 victory in Round 1, against Wyvern Lord, and followed that up with an equally impressive 9-2 win over Overlord, giving it a tcs of 15 and handing it the advantage in this battle.

Fight!

whats scarier then food that tries to kill you!

A little closer than its last two battles, but Vorpal Bunny continues its march/hop towards the final.

Next battle:

Antlion – Rank V

A mantis-type creature that attacks quickly and can also Cannibalise to grow stronger. Fought in the Lhusu Mines. Won 8-3 against Bloodwing in Round 1, and 10-2 against Carrot in Round 2. It starts the battle with a tcs of 13, then.

vs.

Flowering Cactoid – Rank I

A Cactoid hunted in the Dalmasca Estersand. It’s main ‘attack’ is to run away and aggro everything else on the screen. It also has a high physical defence and can use Potions, plus it will use 1000 Needles at HP Critical, thus making it very difficult if you undertake the hunt when it first becomes available. Won 10-5 against Vyraal in the first round, in the battle that drew the highest voter turnout in the rumble so far, and followed that up with an 8-3 triumph over Gil Snapper to give it a current tcs of 10.

Fight!

If I haven’t already said it, it was one of the best challenges in the game if you take it on with Vaan and Penelo before you do the Royal Palace.

Not an easy decision though as I liked Antlion too.

Sorry everyone. I only remembered to keep it white, but they’ll be bold from now on.

Anyway, Antlion. By a long shot.

I didn’t want to seem like a pedant, so that’s why I didn’t nag Zemener again.

surprised flowering cactoid even made it past the preliminaries

Despite taking the early lead, Flowering cactoid bows out, while Antlion moves onto the semi-finals.

Next up:

Trickster – Rank V

I’ve yet to battle it personally. However it certainly proved popular in round one, practically wiping the floor with Catoblepas 9-1. In round 2, it won by the slightly less emphatic scoreline of 8-4, against Behemoth King, giving it tcs of 12.

vs.

Wild Malboro – Rank VI

It’s a Malboro that’s wild. Starts with several Malboro minions and uses the numerous status-inducing attacks typical of Malboros. Previous results won 7-2 against Fafnir and 7-3 against Ixtab, giving tcs of 9.

Normally, in battles where I haven’t fought one of the contestants, I’ll vote for the other. However, it’s getting into the business end now and it doesn’t seem right for a contestant to lose simply because I haven’t foguht it. So I’m abstaining from this battle and all future battles of a similar nature in this rumble.

Anyway,

Fight!

Trickster

A surprisingly easy victory for Trickster there.

Moving on:

Gilgamesh – Rank VII

One that I haven’t faced, but many make him favourite to win the entire rumble, which is praise indeed. Won against Yiazmat by 6-1 in the first round, and saw off the challenge of Deathgaze 7-3 in Round 2. Tcs 9.

vs.

Braegh – Rank IV

Fought in the Salikawood, generally uses Thunder-elemental attacks, if I remember correctly. Won 7-1 in Round 1, against Darksteel, and squeezed past Shadowseer 5-4 in Round 2. Tcs 7.

As in the last one, I’m abstaining, having not fought Gilgamesh.

Fight!

I’m amazed the Braegh lasted this long…

I’m going to guess that like trickster, this will be a surprisingly easy win for Gilgamaesh also.

I’m amazed the Braegh lasted this long…

+1

Actually I’m gonna vote Braegh cause I’m high on sugar and lasting this long is enough for it to impress me.

Surprise, surprise. Gilgamesh wins through that one without breaking sweat.

Well, that’s it for the quarter-finals. The semis will start either tomorrow or Tuesday, as I have a very long train journey tomorrow and frankly there’s a good chance I won’t be able to motivate myself to update the rumble.

As usual, it’s suggestion/reaction time until then.

So what’s next? Ceidwad — I’m probably not going to have the FMV information completely ready until the edition after this next one, at least. I really like the idea of doing quotes or music, though, but others may have their own thoughts.

Is there going to be a battle for third place too?

Locations
Storyline bosses
Optional bosses & Espers
Weapons & Equipment
FMVs
Music
Quotes

To be honest, I think I’d prefer to leave quotes alone for now, and if the FMVs aren’t ready that rules them out too. Music is a valid option, however, albeit a very complicated one. I think I’d prefer to do something simple like Locations for now, but that’s just my view.

Also, I have some ideas in the pipeline for a Champion of Champions rumble later on this year, when we’ve done the other categories. That’s part of the reason for the 3rd and 4th places (and yes, Agent, I will be doing those this time too) – those contestants will also qualify for the CoC rumble, and I have plans for seeding and a whole lot of other crap that’s at an early stage of development right now. Anyway, imagine Gilgamesh going up against Montblanc, for example, or the Vorpal Bunny taking on Ashe. That’s the general idea. A bit out there, but if you guys are interested it’s definitely something I’d be willing to do.

Also, I’ll update this tomorrow; I’m too tired to do any heavy-duty posts at the moment.

First up then in the semi-finals:

Vorpal Bunny – Rank III

Hunted in the Golmore Jungle. It prefers to run away rather than fight, which can be surprisingly diffcult to overcome since it will aggro many other monsters in the process. Previous results: 8-0 against Wyvern Lord, 9-2 against Overlord and 8-5 against Rogue Tomato. Tcs: 18

vs.

Trickster – Rank V

A white chocobo hunted on Paramina Rift. Previous results: 9-1 vs. Catoblepas, 8-4 vs. Behemoth King and 8-1 against Wild Malboro. Tcs: 19.

So, Trickster has a slight advantage. I’m hoping for a good one as we start the semis.

Fight!

Vorpal bunny definitely deserves to have made it this far, though.

Trickster well and truly did a number on the bunny there, eh? Well, at least our Vorpal friend will get a second chance in the 3rd/4th place play-off.

Trickster moves on to the final, where it will meet the winner of these two:

Antlion – Rank V

A mantis-type creature that attacks quickly and can also Cannibalise to grow stronger. Fought in the Lhusu Mines. Previous results: 8-3 vs. Bloodwing, 10-2 vs. Carrot, and 7-5 vs. Flowering Cactoid. Tcs: 15

vs.

Gilgamesh – Rank VII

Tipped by many to win the rumble. Previous results: 6-1 vs. Yiazmat, 7-3 vs. Deathgaze, and 7-1 vs. Braegh. Tcs: 15

It’s tied on tcs, so sudden death is a possibility. Anyway,

Fight!

Easy and obvious choice.

Cool design, fun behavior and attacks, you can steal one of the best set of equipment from him (the full Genji set), add all this to possibly one of the greatest battle theme in the whole series (Clash on the Big Bridge) ….

…There is just nothing in the entire game that can match him .

Need I explain why?

Easy and obvious choice.

Not quite the landslide I thought would happen, but none the less Gilgamesh continues his march towards the title.

OK, here we go with the 3rd/4th place match.

Vorpal Bunny – Rank III

Hunted in the Golmore Jungle. It prefers to run away rather than fight, which can be surprisingly diffcult to overcome since it will aggro many other monsters in the process. Previous results: 8-0 against Wyvern Lord, 9-2 against Overlord, 8-5 against Rogue Tomato and 0-8 vs. Trickster. Tcs: 10

vs.

Antlion – Rank V

A mantis-type creature that attacks quickly and can also Cannibalise to grow stronger. Fought in the Lhusu Mines. Previous results: 8-3 vs. Bloodwing, 10-2 vs. Carrot, 7-5 vs. Flowering Cactoid, and 3-8 vs. Gilgamesh. Tcs: 10

Tcs is level, so it could go down to the wire.

Fight!

Would it be manti?

But yes Antlion

All I remember of the Antlion is a screen full of mantises…

And what is a necrohol? I looked it up and its not in the dictionary…

Now I think we should let people get back to voting.

and it also surrounded by a huge group of minion mantises that make the battle more challenging. What with Cannibalize =-O

After a relatively close battle, Antlion takes the spoils and finishes third.

Final coming up shortly.

Gilgamesh – Rank VII

Tipped by many to win the rumble. Previous results: 6-1 vs. Yiazmat, 7-3 vs. Deathgaze, 7-1 vs. Braegh and 8-3 against Antlion. Tcs: 20

vs.

Trickster – Rank V

A white chocobo hunted on Paramina Rift. Previous results: 9-1 vs. Catoblepas, 8-4 vs. Behemoth King, 8-1 against Wild Malboro, and 8-0 against Vorpal Bunny. Tcs: 27.

Trickster holds the edge on tcs, but will that be enough? Let’s find out…..

Fight!

And Trickster only has the higher TCS because it faced weaker/lamer opponents in its previous battles. Whereas look what Gilgamesh went against.

Edit*- im editing so i dont post again. Im suprised, i thought Gilgamesh would be getting the votes..

Great music, and him having the swords from the previous games was a nice touch

He has such cool swords!

Easy and obvious choice.

Cool design, fun behavior and attacks, you can steal one of the best set of equipment from him (the full Genji set), add all this to possibly one of the greatest battle theme in the whole series (Clash on the Big Bridge) ….

…There is just nothing in the entire game that can match him .
Nothing changed since that quoted post.

Well, for a brief moment it looked like Trickster was about to pull off a shock victory. But, as expected, Gilgamesh came through in the end to become our champion. Congrats to him.

Well, that’s that for the marks rumble. We’ll now have a couple of days for reaction, questions and votes for the next rumble.

Our options are:

Locations
Weapons, Armour and Equipment
Storyline bosses/Espers
Optional bosses/Espers
FMVs*
Music*
Quotes*

*FMVs, Music and quotes are likely to take more time to organise, so the rumbles won’t be moving along as quickly as the ones we’ve done so far.

It’s basically a free thread at the moment, but I’d still ask you not to post anything un-necessary, purely because it’ll make counting the votes more awkward if I have tons of text in between votes.

Other than that thanks to everyone who voted in this rumble and hope to see you back for the next one.

Also, I hinted before that I had some plans for future rumbles. The Champion of Champions idea is one. Another idea I recently had was a Tag Team competition. Basically, this teams up a pair contestants (they can be from any rumbles) against another pair. So, for example you might have Basch and Gilgamesh taking on Montblanc and Trickster. That’s the general idea, anyway. It’ll probably be done after the Champion of Champions rumble, which in turn will be done after all the ‘normal’ rumble categories have been done.

Also, guys can we all nominate one category only. Sorry, I should have mentioned that in my last post.

For the next rumble I think I will choose Optional bosses/Espers.

Locations: 5 (+1)
Weapons, Armour and Equipment: 2
Storyline bosses/Espers: 3
Optional bosses/Espers: 2
FMVs: 0
Music: 1 (+1)
Quotes: 0

A couple of you guys voted for two; that was discouraged, but I probably would have used them to settle a tie-break. Anyway, they weren’t needed thankfully. Locations comes out as the winner.

I’ll now get on with starting to organise the Locations rumble.

1. Nalbina Fortress
2. Garamsythe Waterway
3. Rabanastre

4. Lowtown
5. Dalmasca Estersand
6. Dalmasca Westersand

7. Giza Plains
8. Royal Palace
9. Nalbina Dungeons

10. Barheim Passage
11. Bhujerba
12. Lhusu Mines

13. The Leviathan
14. Ogir-Yensa Sandsea
15. Nam-Yensa Sandsea

16. Raithwall’s Tomb
17. The Shiva
18. Ozmone Plain

19. Jahara
20. Zertinan Caverns
21. Golmore Jungle

22. Eruyt Village
23. Henne Mines
24. Paramina Rift
25. Mt. Bur-Omisace

26. Stilshrine of Miriam
27. Aerodrome/Skyferry
28. Nalbina Town
29. Mosphoran Highwaste

30. Salikawood
31. Nabreus Deadlands
32. Necrohol of Nabudis

33. Phon Coast
34. Tchita Uplands
35. Sochen Cave Palace

36. Old Archades
37. Archades
38. Draklor Laboratories

39. Balfonheim Port
40. Cerobi Steppe
41. Feywood

42. Giruvegan
43. The Great Crystal
44. Ridorana Cataract

45. Pharos (1st, 2nd & 3rd Ascents)
46. Pharos: Subterra
47. The Bahamut

OK, there are 47 locations in the game (to the best of my knowledge). We need to eliminate 13. Basically, same as before. Choose one from each group by bolding the name (my choices are bolded in this post). We’ll give it 24-48 hours, I think. If there are some clear losers by tomorrow I’ll move on.

Also, if anyone knows of any other locations I might have missed out, can you please notify me.

What about Sub-Terra?

**UPDATED VOTES**

Garamsythe waterway
Dalmasca Westersand
Nalbina Dungeons
Barheim Passage
The Leviathon
The Shiva
Golmore Jungle
Eryut Village
Mosphoron Highwaste
Salikawood
Sochen Cave Palace
Draklor Laboratories
Ridorana Cataract
Pharos-Sub Terra
Cerobi Steppe

I hope this is right. Let me know if its not. Thanks.

Garamsythe Waterway
Lowtown
Royal Palace
Barheim Passage
Ogir-Yensa Sandsea
The Shiva
Golmore Jungle
Eruyt Village
Stilshrine of Miriam
Nabreus Deadlands
Sochen Cave Palace
Feywood
Ridorana Cataract

And I agree, the Pharos Subterra (Penumbra, Umbra, Abyssal) should be added.

I’ll add those to the list now, you can all change your votes if you wish. What this does mean is that the 12th and 13th groups are both groups of 5.

Garamsythe Waterway
Dalmasca Westersand
Royal Palace
Lhusu Mines
Nam-Yensa Sandsea
Ozmone Plain
Golmore Jungle
Paramina Rift
Mosphoran Highwaste
Salikawood
Sochen Cave Palace
Draklor Laboratories
Cerobi Steppe
Ridorana Cataract
Pharos: Subterra

Garamsythe Waterway
Westersand
Nalbina Dungeons
Barheim Passage
Ogir-Yensa Sandsea
The Shiva
Golmore Jungle
Paramina Rift
Nalbina Town
Nabreus Deadlands
Tchita Uplands
Old Archades
Feywood
Ridorana Cataract
The Bahamut

This is according to the latest list. I have to say I like the ascents more than Subterra, which is saying something.

Nalbina Fortress
Lowtown
Royal Palace
Bhujerba
The Leviathan
The Shiva
Jahara
Mt. Bur-Omisace
Aerodrome/Skyferry
Salikawood
Tchita Uplands
Draklor Laboratories
Balfonheim Port
Ridorana Cataract
Pharos (1st, 2nd & 3rd Ascents)

Also, I’ve just realised we need to eliminate two more since I added Subterra and the Great Crystal. I’m going to re-structure the list. I’ll try and do it in a way that disrupts others’ lists as little as possible.

Edit: I’ve now done that. Most of you will want to change your lists.

I add Old Archades and The Bahamut. My other choices remain the same.

4. Lowtown
5. Dalmasca Estersand
6. Dalmasca Westersand

7. Giza Plains
8. Royal Palace
9. Nalbina Dungeons

10. Barheim Passage
11. Bhujerba
12. Lhusu Mines

13. The Leviathan
14. Ogir-Yensa Sandsea
15. Nam-Yensa Sandsea

16. Raithwall’s Tomb
17. The Shiva
18. Ozmone Plain

19. Jahara
20. Zertinan Caverns
21. Golmore Jungle

22. Eruyt Village
23. Henne Mines
24. Paramina Rift
25. Mt. Bur-Omisace

26. Stilshrine of Miriam
27. Aerodrome/Skyferry
28. Nalbina Town
29. Mosphoran Highwaste

30. Salikawood
31. Nabreus Deadlands
32. Necrohol of Nabudis

33. Phon Coast
34. Tchita Uplands
35. Sochen Cave Palace

36. Old Archades
37. Archades
38. Draklor Laboratories

39. Balfonheim Port
40. Cerobi Steppe
41. Feywood

42. Giruvegan
43. The Great Crystal
44. Ridorana Cataract

45. Pharos (1st, 2nd & 3rd Ascents)
46. Pharos: Subterra
47. The Bahamut

4. Lowtown
5. Dalmasca Estersand
6. Dalmasca Westersand

7. Giza Plains
8. Royal Palace
9. Nalbina Dungeons

10. Barheim Passage
11. Bhujerba
12. Lhusu Mines

13. The Leviathan
14. Ogir-Yensa Sandsea
15. Nam-Yensa Sandsea

16. Raithwall’s Tomb
17. The Shiva
18. Ozmone Plain

19. Jahara
20. Zertinan Caverns
21. Golmore Jungle

22. Eruyt Village
23. Henne Mines
24. Paramina Rift
25. Mt. Bur-Omisace

26. Stilshrine of Miriam
27. Aerodrome/Skyferry
28. Nalbina Town
29. Mosphoran Highwaste

Man we don’t even get to see Nalbina Fortress so why is that on the list?? Yeah it’s part of Nalbina and separate from Nalbina Town but that doesn’t mean it’s an accessible location like the rest of the locations on the list.

30. Salikawood
31. Nabreus Deadlands
32. Necrohol of Nabudis

33. Phon Coast
34. Tchita Uplands
35. Sochen Cave Palace

36. Old Archades
37. Archades
38. Draklor Laboratories

39. Balfonheim Port
40. Cerobi Steppe
41. Feywood

42. Giruvegan
43. The Great Crystal
44. Ridorana Cataract

45. Pharos (1st, 2nd & 3rd Ascents)
46. Pharos: Subterra
47. The Bahamut

note: all airships suck major a** as locations in my world

Usually I try to do the Zertinan Caverns and acquire Adrammelech when I get Larsa, on my way to the Golmore Jungle. That’s the earliest I’ve been able to successfully do it, anyway.

Actually, one point about the Mosphoran Highwaste, I have not actually been there before you would normally go there in the story. I’ve heard there’s an optional thing involving characters named Gibbs and Deweg, but I’ve yet to see that.

Yeah, I went to all those places just to branch the map out before I even set foot in Jahara, except for Nabreus Deadlands/Necrohol because you MUST beat the Bomb to reach them. At that stage I never could stand a chance against it.

d’oh

Ditto the Necrohol, in fact, I usually leave that ’til even later, as I find that Level 35-ish characters aren’t strong enough.

Ah ha..ah ha ha..I mean *ahem* I just got lucky enough to synthesize a Francisca and acquire stun bomb ammunition for the swift little Baknamis for a power-tripped run and mass lvl-up early in the game whence stumbling upon that very dungeon.

Anyway, my organizational blunder has messed this up a little bit, so here’s what I’m going to do. I’m going to PM those who still haven’t updated their lists based on the latest groups and give this another day or two. After that, any lists that haven’t been updated will be discounted, and we’ll move on. I think that’s the best way of keeping this running at least somewhat smoothly without disaffecting several people.

Apologies for this, voters.

Garamsythe Waterway
Lowtown
Royal Palace
Barheim Passage
Ogir-Yensa Sandsea
The Shiva
Golmore Jungle
Eruyt Village
Stilshrine of Miriam
Nabreus Deadlands
Sochen Cave Palace
Feywood
Ridorana Cataract

And I agree, the Pharos Subterra (Penumbra, Umbra, Abyssal) should be added.

couldn’t have picked any other areas really…..AND the Pharos Subterra definalty shoud be added.

Also, i have updated my votes.

However, the others are all good, so thanks to those who updated for doing so and the rest of you for bearing with me here. These are the results of the elimination round.

Group 1:

1. Nalbina Fortress: 3
2. Garamsythe Waterway: 7
3. Rabanastre: 3

Group 2:

4. Lowtown: 3
5. Dalmasca Estersand: 2
6. Dalmasca Westersand: 8

Group 3:

7. Giza Plains: 1
8. Royal Palace: 7
9. Nalbina Dungeons: 5

Group 4:

10. Barheim Passage: 6
11. Bhujerba: 4
12. Lhusu Mines: 3

Group 5:**

13. The Leviathan: 5
14. Ogir-Yensa Sandsea: 5
15. Nam-Yensa Sandsea: 3

Group 6:

16. Raithwall’s Tomb: 2
17. The Shiva: 7
18. Ozmone Plain: 3

Group 7:

19. Jahara: 5
20. Zertinan Caverns: 2
21. Golmore Jungle: 6

Group 8:

22. Eruyt Village: 5
23. Henne Mines: 2
24. Paramina Rift: 4
25. Mt. Bur-Omisace: 2

Group 9:

26. Stilshrine of Miriam: 1
27. Aerodrome/Skyferry: 3
28. Nalbina Town: 3
29. Mosphoran Highwaste: 6

Group 10:

30. Salikawood: 5
31. Nabreus Deadlands: 7
32. Necrohol of Nabudis: 1

Group 11:*

33. Phon Coast: 1
34. Tchita Uplands: 6
35. Sochen Cave Palace: 5

Group 12:*

36. Old Archades: 5
37. Archades: 1
38. Draklor Laboratories: 6

Group 13:

39. Balfonheim Port: 3
40. Cerobi Steppe: 7
41. Feywood: 3

Group 14:

42. Giruvegan: 1
43. The Great Crystal: 2
44. Ridorana Cataract: 8

Group 15:*

45. Pharos (1st, 2nd & 3rd Ascents): 1
46. Pharos: Subterra: 5
47. The Bahamut: 6

* One person forgot to vote in all these groups (though not the same person each time).
** Phirk voted twice in this round, so I had to take his first vote.

Fixtures are now up on the first page; I’ll start the first battle shortly.

Pharos: Subterra

Located underneath the Pharos Lighthouse; Subterra is an optional dungeon only available once you complete the Pharos 1st, 2nd and 3rd Ascents. Home to many powerful enemies, but also some of the game’s best items and equipment.

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Henne Mines

Located just off of Ozmone Plain. Initially, you’ll encounter more bats than you can count, but deeper into the mines you’ll find nightmare-types that will make you tear your hair out in frustration with their constant teleporting. Your party goes there to find Mjrn, Fran’s younger sister.

Okay, well Pharos: Subterra. I didnt like the henne mines very much. Mainly because i hated the room where you are ambushed by flans. Plus, its not very exiting.

Cookie, you do realise that we’re now voting for the candidates we want to win, right?

Henne Mines for this one…

I still have bad memories of Pharos Subterra (getting all those Black Orbs), and the Henne Mines is where you get Zodiark.

repetitive of the upper levels of the pharos but yes, more creative and less stressful than the henne mines.

A comfortable victory for Subterra there. Henne Mines never really got going.

Next battle:

Giruvegan

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Located near the Feywood, Giruvegan is the second-largest dungeon in the game, after the Pharos Lighthouse. In order to find you way through it, you’ll need to work your way through a maze of switches and fight several bosses.

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Giza Plains

Located just south of Rabanastre, Giza Plains changes according to the season. You first visit it during the dry (fig. 1), but will later pass through during the wets (fig. 2). The landscape and mosters vary with the seasons. You’ll also find the Croakadile mark here.

I enjoyed the idea of the switching seasons/terrain.

Giruvegan never really stood out to me, and I liked the cockatrices at Giza

I liked how it switched from dry season to rainy season

The Giza Plains were pretty damn annoying

A comfortable win there for Giza Plains. Giruvegan goes home early.

Next up:

Balfonheim Port

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You arrive there after your visit to Archades. Mainly, it just serves as a base for your later missions, with plenty of shops to be found, and items scattered around the town, but you can also race Rikken and his crew here, in races of increasing difficulty for increasing rewards.

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Sochen Cave Palace

An underground passage located near the Tchita Uplands, which takes you into Archades. Maggoty Flesh is plentiful here as you’ll fight lots of Undead, while you’ll also face the royalty of the Mandragoras (fig. 2)

You just have to admire the view!

the mandragoras boss battle was definately one of my favorites.

x2, the mandragoras were a royal pain in the ass.

The mandragora battle was bloody annoying, until I figured out to use espers lol xD

That waterfall puzzle was bloody annoying

A fairly close battle, but those last two votes seal it for Reddas’ hometown.

Next up:

Archades

Th Imperial Capital, Archades is a bustling city both on the ground and in the air. Selling and delivering information is good business in this city, where the citizens are constantly striving to climb the social ladder and gain more power.

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Pharos (1st, 2nd & 3rd Ascents)

The compulsory part of the Pharos, which you complete during the story, as opposed to Subterra, which is optional. Arguably the longest dungeon in FF history, it will take you several hours to complete.

It may have been long, but at least it was slightly more of a challenge than the other dungeons. And Archades was way too small to be the Imperial capital…

Goddamn pine needles

I assume you mean pine chops?

Next vote clinches it, guys.

EDIT: I’ll remove what I posted anyway since apparently all sudden death rounds up to this point have been settled by new participants, even if it was just a coincidence.

Wow, just… Wow!

LMAO, I swear I was thinking the exact same thing. Not even kidding… great minds think alike.

EDIT: And that would even it out! But nah as much as it’d be funny I won’t do it.

Anyway,

Archades 7-8 Pharos

That sudden death vote from BloodLust wins it for the Pharos.

Next up:

Phon Coast

Located to the southwest of the Empire. You’ll find many annoying enemies here, notably the Pyrolisks, who will drive you mad if you rely too much on mele??? attacks. Also, there’s a hunt club at a camp in the centre of the coast (fig. 2); here’s where the Rare Game make themselves useful.

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Lowtown

Home to the street rats of Rabanastre, notably Dalan, Vaan, Kytes, Penelo etc. Later in the game, you’ll be able to buy the powerful Mirage Vest from a merchant here.

Lowtown doesn’t really contain any elements that gives an Ivalice feel and could just as easily have been something out of FF IV, IX, Suikoden, or any other RPGs.

The only time my game ever froze on me was in Phon coast. Made me hate it from then on.

Dingy sewer vs. beautiful beach. Hmm, I wonder which one will win?

Phon Coast scores an impressive victory there, drawing a high turnout which may help it in later rounds.

Next up:

Necrohol of Nabudis

The former capital of Nabradia, destroyed by the Midlight Shard in events prior to the game’s beginning. Plenty to do here, including finding the Zodiac Spear, as well as the lengthy medallion sidequest and several bosses and marks to fight.

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Old Archades

The poor of Archades, as well as its formerly rich cast-offs live here, most of whom spend their lives trying to get into the city by way of selling information.

I’m for the Necrohol of Nabudis for the same general reasons, though it’s not likely something I’d vote for against most of the other choices. Cannon fodder for the second round.

-Great music
-Zodiac Spear
-A million little secrets
-Most fun/creative Esper sidequest (actually tied with Ultima)
-Baknamy merchant

Old Arch’s got nothing on it. If the creators decided to put the other half of "Theme of the Empire" there along with Draklor (which would have fit), then it’d have me hands down.

Next battle coming up shortly; this is just a notice that the battle has ended.

Salikawood

The forested area in between the Mosphoran Highwaste and the Phon Coast, which also links to the Necrohol of Nabudis and the Nabreus Deadlands. You can fight the Bomb King and the Braegh here, the former being necessary if you wish to advance to Nabudis.

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Feywood

Located in the depths of the Golmore Jungle. The Mist here helps you recover MP a lot quicker, but also spawns some particularly un-friendly beasts, notably the boss Rafflesia, who is a walking, talking, breathing, living status ailment.

I’m gonna vote for the Feywood because I happened to prefer it’s music, plus, the battle with Behemoth King was EPIC in a good way and not in a bad way like Fafnir. Also I enjoyed doing the puzzle to unlock Giruvegan it was pretty fun.

Not to mention all the other great secrets in the Feywood. And I feel like there’s another reason I liked it I’m forgetting.

Salikawood was nice, but… meh, Feywood wins.

For those reasons, my choice is going to be Salikawood

I liked how the mist was so strong in that place that you could sometimes see your reflection in it.

Better music, and the moogles were cool.

There was just so many fun sidequests and hunts to do there, and the atmosphere of that place was really great.

The Salikawood was pretty ordinary to me.

A close battle, so maybe this is ending it a touch early. But we’re getting such a glut of votes at the moment that I’m finding myself keeping battles going no longer than about 28-30 hours. In any case, the Salikawood pulls clear after the two contestants were evenly matched for much of that one.

Next up:

Aerodrome/Skyferry

Aerodromes are found in many towns around Ivalice. From them you can take a public airship (fig. 1) or board the Strahl (fig. 2). On board public airships or ‘skyferries’ there are shops, plus a sidequest to complete and a mark to hunt.

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Paramina Rift

Located just past the Golmore Jungle in a surprisingly swift change of climate, the Paramina Rift is a snowy mountain that leads to Mt. Bur-Omisace, where you travel with Larsa to find the Gran Kiltias Anastasis.

I enjoyed the Rift a lot more than the public ships

I was thinking the exact same thing

EDIT: Ceidwad, sorry for the off-topic post (mentioned in the post below). If someone wants to delete this post, that’s cool with me. Won’t happen again.

Can we keep it to just voting and reasons for now, bearing in mind I usually allow a bit of off-topic time in between rounds?

Aerodrome/Skyferry

I never thought I’d quote that guy.

There wasn’t really all that much to do in Paramina Rift…

I thought the airships were cool, but ah well, Paramina Rift wins the popular vote.

Next battle:

Stilshrine of Miriam

You go there as part of Ashe’s main plot, to retrieve the Sword of Kings. You’ll face tough enemies such as the Dragon Aevis, as well as the boss Vinuskar (fig. 2) and the Esper Mateus (fig. 3).

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Nalbina Town

Located a short distance from Rabanastre, also under Imperial occupation. Nalbina is a major centre of trade, and you can buy some good weapons and armour there if you visit early in the game.

Nalbina Town is great for trade and whatnot but I would choose a dungeon over a town almost always. I find towns boring where as dungeons usually look great, have better music, and generally holds my interest more than a town/city.

I don’t know what I ever did to you, but you always seemed like a decent poster to me.

Anyway Nalbina Town for the music.

I always prefer a a bright town/city compared to a dungeon…plus the music was better.

that and the tomb of raithwall both really impressed me with their size and scenery

Nalbina Town didn’t really play enough of a part in the story to earn my vote.

Nalbina Town sees of the challenge of the Stilshrine.

Next up:

Mt. Bur-Omisace

The holy site of the Kiltias, where the Gran Kiltias Anastasis resides. Home to ‘ten thousand souls’ according to one devotee, referring to the refugees which find sanctuary there.

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Nalbina Dungeons

Not quite so holy, this place. Most of the prisoners are malnourished or starving. It’s claimed no-one gets out alive, but of course, your party proves to be the exception. You’ll have to fight three very ugly Seeqs (fig.2) and several Imperials to escape, however.

It’s more of a vote against Bur-Omisace than one in favour of Nalbina Dungeons.

I loved the way all the refugees were scattered around. And that rock where there are some under it. For some strange reason, i kept wishing i could go under and talk to them…:)

It’s more of a vote against Bur-Omisace than one in favour of Nalbina Dungeons.

And to add to that, the annoying Fafnir hunt… there’s a difference between fights that are epic and fights that are plain hateable and Fafnir falls on the latter for me.

Plus there is a scene in Nalbina Dungeons where the imperial theme plays, so… 🙂

I liked the music there after the imperials invaded and it rained all the time…also nice scenery. Plus I barely remember Nalbina Dungeons.

Much to my surprise, Bur-Omisace goes through.

Next up:

Zertinan Caverns

An underground network of tunnels that stretches across the Dalmasca Sands, into Kerwon and the Jagd Yensa. You’ll find the optional Esper, Adrammelech, here. (fig.1)

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Bhujerba

Located on the sky continent of Dorstonis, the skycity of Bhujerba is officially neutral and pretends to support the Empire, but its leader Marquis Ondore is actually secretly supporting the Dalmascan Resistance. It’s where you meet Larsa for the first time, though he assumes the name ‘Lamont’ for now.

I think I am going to be picking the unpopular one but I really liked these caves. Now granted Bhujerba has more story (seeing as the Caverns dont have any :-P) but that esper battle was a good solid fight(I was underleveled at the time and was missing some important spells, so he was a toughie for me) .

Actually it isn’t, I think you’re thinking of the Lhusu Mines.

Anyway once again I’m gonna vote for the Zertinan Caverns because I preferred the music there and it’s one of the few places I enjoyed filling my Bestiary. Bhujerba could have been better… but it’ll probably win anyway.

Enjoyed exploring it.

The Esper in Zertinan was hardly worth getting, and Bhujerba was a beautiful city. And it had a cute moogle sidequest.