Drawing System:
If it was more complex, dynamic and less time consuming the game would win.
It would take little to deepen it. A "subgame" just like Renzokuken has a timing one. One with a very high difficulty progression to take a badass master pro to be able to draw 100 magic with one action.
Drawing System2:
Draw should be as interconnected as Attack command.
It should by some conditions slow an opponent or even haste the user.
Enemies should have 100 magic Junctioned to themselves so they can also be weakened with drawing.
The Draw ratio should be effected by spells/ablilites like they effect Attack command(berserk, Cheer(FFx)).
If drawing from an undead, you risk getting cursed.
GFs and Limit breaks:
GFs should still power the character, but they ought to be summoned like in FF10.
Affinities with GFs should now effect the max damage/heal/effect-duration a GF can do (up to 99.999, right?), so it would be really worth watching the "overdrive" animation.
But GF overdrives must be harder to get because characters already have limit breaks, which should now be a mix between FF10/FF7 and FF8 ones. They should charge, but faster with low hp and status ailments so pros can get rid of already seen battles while noobs would only die that way.
And the more endangered, the stronger the limit breaks is a fancy rule.
Storytelling(spoiler alert):
There were a few scenes that seem to simply tell the facts rather than present them to give you emotions (like movies).
I found it disappointing you realize every one was from orphanage with Irvine’s "oh, by the way…". One of them should go trough old Cid’s files or something and get very surprised, please!
I found the the Master Norg’s revelation of Edea and Cid being married deliciously shocking, though.
Character Interactions(spoiler alert):
It would be nice if your actions/words effected your relations more. Thus instead of Rinoa you could date Quistis or Zell.
"Zell?!" Yeah Zell! Not everyone gets turned on by orthodox , ok? In fact, escaping moron reality is mostly the exact point of video games, so you can shove your "Why Squall and Zell option!?" in a Malboro!
Not that I disliked Rinoa and all the space romance, but it could be cool saving Selphie and her being all:"Tee-Hee, Aliens want us dead!" or at the last scene where normally Rinoa fingers Squall(Did it came out wrong?) Quistis would instead put her whip around him and Squall would of course react like a Squall would(I’m guessing a Squall would react not…much.).
General:
The main problem is whether it would be easier to convince SE to make a remake or would it be less time consuming to gather people to make a fan remake/mod and simply ask for SE’s permission to make it public?
I however won’t be able to commit well, because I’m going to a college soon.
More ideas, wishes? Disagreements? Post!
Yes. Yes it did.
Just give it a rest. You’re one of many that has said this already. One would think that it would come up at SOME point in a Final Fantasy forum.
FFVIII needs no remake. All it really needs is some availability on PSN.
I lol’d, seriously.
I’d like to see some FF8 Spin-Offs.
if anything deserves spin offs/sequels, etc it’s X cause best ff ever. (lawl, i am suffering from fanboyitis) not shitty, crappy, overrated, belonging in the trash ff7, but that is a story for another day.
Mir, Purrr? y/y
Also Neg, I agree. a SH Anniversary Edition with all Silent Hills in a box, gift wrapped in blood <3
oh, eartha kitt, i think you need to look up the definition of perfection.
RE4 was friggin’ awesome~
Neg: oh noes, you have more of those?
if anything deserves spin offs/sequels, etc it’s X cause best ff ever. (lawl, i am suffering from fanboyitis) not shitty, crappy, overrated, belonging in the trash ff7, but that is a story for another day.
I think FF8 has the easier time of getting a decent spin-off.
Shit you could just do "Red Steel", but with tighter controls and following the life of a SeeD
I really can’t see FF10 has being the best.
If X-2 hadn’t ruined the story, it might have been "up there".
Personally, I need some MOAR FFT/8/6
If X-2 hadn’t ruined the story, it might have been "up there".
Way to ruin your credibility…
But anyway I’ve never seen anyone suggest this idea.
But I hope they don’t remake any of the PS1 titles. As for spinoffs, I’m down for that, especially with FF8. Leave FF7 alone, this one was more deserving of one to begin with.
Just, IF they do, they have to get Uematsu back for the OST. FF8 was his peak, and the OST is what kept that game going for my unlike with other FF titles.
If they do a FF8 spinoff and it has shitty music, then shame on them.
But anyway I’ve never seen anyone suggest this idea.
But I hope they don’t remake any of the PS1 titles. As for spinoffs, I’m down for that, especially with FF8. Leave FF7 alone, this one was more deserving of one to begin with.
Just, IF they do, they have to get Uematsu back for the OST. FF8 was his peak, and the OST is what kept that game going for my unlike with other FF titles.
If they do a FF8 spinoff and it has shitty music, then shame on them.
How is that ruining my "cred"?
The battle system was barely serviceable (I Really Fucking Hate the Sphere Grid); if it wasn’t for the Aeons and limit breaks, it’d be shit.
The music was pretty decent, I’ll give you that, I’d say it’s my 3 or 4 fav.
After FF6/8/4
The voice acting was crap
The story was pretty good up until "X-2: Charles’s Japos" killed the ending and the characters (even if it was FUN to play)
Well, they’ve already announce a remake for the DS (like they’ve done with FF4 DS) which will hold me over, but I’d really like to see a "PS2/Wii" version.
Doesn’t have to be "Next-Gen", just update.
Dated handheld is dated.
Dated handheld is dated.
Yeah, no doubt.
And, developers are being kind of lazy too.
I mean, why not use the GBA slot to "cut scenes" or have an external memory, this adding new possibilities for the DS.
Like the "Codebreak" kind of stuff, if you didn’t use that add-on slot for a DS game, but rather made it one big added memory stick…who knows what you could do.
Drawing System:
If it was more complex, dynamic and less time consuming the game would win.
It would take little to deepen it. A "subgame" just like Renzokuken has a timing one. One with a very high difficulty progression to take a badass master pro to be able to draw 100 magic with one action.
Drawing System2:
Draw should be as interconnected as Attack command.
It should by some conditions slow an opponent or even haste the user.
Enemies should have 100 magic Junctioned to themselves so they can also be weakened with drawing.
The Draw ratio should be effected by spells/ablilites like they effect Attack command(berserk, Cheer(FFx)).
If drawing from an undead, you risk getting cursed.
GFs and Limit breaks:
GFs should still power the character, but they ought to be summoned like in FF10.
Affinities with GFs should now effect the max damage/heal/effect-duration a GF can do (up to 99.999, right?), so it would be really worth watching the "overdrive" animation.
But GF overdrives must be harder to get because characters already have limit breaks, which should now be a mix between FF10/FF7 and FF8 ones. They should charge, but faster with low hp and status ailments so pros can get rid of already seen battles while noobs would only die that way.
And the more endangered, the stronger the limit breaks is a fancy rule.
Storytelling(spoiler alert):
There were a few scenes that seem to simply tell the facts rather than present them to give you emotions (like movies).
I found it disappointing you realize every one was from orphanage with Irvine’s "oh, by the way…". One of them should go trough old Cid’s files or something and get very surprised, please!
I found the the Master Norg’s revelation of Edea and Cid being married deliciously shocking, though.
Character Interactions(spoiler alert):
It would be nice if your actions/words effected your relations more. Thus instead of Rinoa you could date Quistis or Zell.
"Zell?!" Yeah Zell! Not everyone gets turned on by orthodox , ok? In fact, escaping moron reality is mostly the exact point of video games, so you can shove your "Why Squall and Zell option!?" in a Malboro!
Not that I disliked Rinoa and all the space romance, but it could be cool saving Selphie and her being all:"Tee-Hee, Aliens want us dead!" or at the last scene where normally Rinoa fingers Squall(Did it came out wrong?) Quistis would instead put her whip around him and Squall would of course react like a Squall would(I’m guessing a Squall would react not…much.).
General:
The main problem is whether it would be easier to convince SE to make a remake or would it be less time consuming to gather people to make a fan remake/mod and simply ask for SE’s permission to make it public?
I however won’t be able to commit well, because I’m going to a college soon.
More ideas, wishes? Disagreements? Post!
No.
I lol’ed
And, developers are being kind of lazy too.
I mean, why not use the GBA slot to "cut scenes" or have an external memory, this adding new possibilities for the DS.
Like the "Codebreak" kind of stuff, if you didn’t use that add-on slot for a DS game, but rather made it one big added memory stick…who knows what you could do.
I agree.
Don’t get me wrong, I mean the remakes of FFIII and FFIV are brilliant…but at least have them on a much better and faster system like the PSP and / or Wii.
Chrono Trigger is still on my high priority list though, even if it is just a port on the DS.
Neg: oh noes, you have more of those?
The DS kinda pisses me off.
Dated handheld is dated.
YOU ARE DEAD TO ME.
Looks like you already kinda knew. Where has Allen been, and why did Doomjockey turn down Heather? We had a nice little movement brewing. Probably fell apart because a rival one didn’t rise to oppose us
*cough*Rob*cough* 😡
In all honesty though, even with those changes plus the obligatory improved graphics that would come with a remake, VIII would still be near the bottom of the tree in terms of FF games. I’d rather they did a prequel for FFX, along the Braska/Jecht/Auron storyline.
🙁
why didn’t you like it? i thought it was a really neat and innovative idea. you also could decide to send anyone in any direction (well, if you had the key spheres or w/e they’re called) so you could make strategies that way.
I’d rather they did a prequel for FFX, along the Braska/Jecht/Auron storyline.
but we already know what happens so it wouldn’t really work. although, they DID make crisis core (idk if that game worked out, i didn’t play it) so i guess they COULD make an ffx prequel. imo, they should do one of the summoner war and yunalesca and how sin was made
but we already know what happens so it wouldn’t really work. although, they DID make crisis core (idk if that game worked out, i didn’t play it) so i guess they COULD make an ffx prequel. imo, they should do one of the summoner war and yunalesca and how sin was made
@ Battle:
I really don’t care for battle systems that allow you to make every fucking character the same. That’s why I don’t like FF7 (plus the weak story)
For me the Sphere grid would have been "good" if each person had their own, individual grid and, in the "New Game+" you could THEN go around the other characters grid.
@FF7-Crisis Core:
It’s pretty decent, it’s nice looking/passable music/idiotic story (for me not being an FF7 fan n’ all that jazz)/and the battle system is a hit and miss.
I don’t like the "Roll and hope for a level-up/better attack crap".
Don’t get me wrong, I mean the remakes of FFIII and FFIV are brilliant…but at least have them on a much better and faster system like the PSP and / or Wii.
Chrono Trigger is still on my high priority list though, even if it is just a port on the DS.
I guess…I mean, as good as the FFT:WotL port/remake is/was, it seems to LAG more than the original game, so, IDK…
Core FF probably shouldn’t do spin-offs or sequels either. I think that was a good decision on their part initially and they’re just muddying the waters trying to add new content to (ideally) complete stories. But since SE certainly wouldn’t listen to me… The only way I could really see myself buying into the idea of a spin-off is if they used the same lore with an entirely different cast/setting. And I suppose that might as well be an entirely new game altogether.
Where has Allen been, and why did Doomjockey turn down Heather? We had a nice little movement brewing.
Whoops. I didn’t realise the offer for what it was. Accepted. Let the movement continue. We shall sweep them like a tsunami of scary misty things and creatures with pyramid head things…eh, I’ll work it out later.
FFVIII needs no remake. All it really needs is some availability on PSN.
you want to put a 4GB game on the PSN? Nobody has that type of patience. All I’d like is an HDremix.
It’s pretty decent, it’s nice looking/passable music/idiotic story (for me not being an FF7 fan n’ all that jazz)/and the battle system is a hit and miss.
I don’t like the "Roll and hope for a level-up/better attack crap".
a fellow non ff7 fan. you just earned points. also, don’t double post. use the edit button.
We shall sweep them like a tsunami of scary misty things and creatures with pyramid head things…eh, I’ll work it out later.
not if i have anything to say about it
Yeah, my first FF was FFI…and…well…that should give you an idea.
I also played "Nights" and "PDS", both which had better graphics than FF7: Gackt Attack
Double post?
IDK, do it per disk and people MIGHT.
Ahh, I see what you mean.
I thought you ment DP as in the same message twice.
I just do that because in other forums I’m in people get a message that tell ’em they’ve been replied to.
I also played "Nights" and "PDS", both which had better graphics than FF7: Gackt Attack
Double post?
So playing FFI first set your standards so high that you couldn’t stand FFVII?
No, but starting out with FFI then going to FF4 then FF:MQ then FF5 then FINAL FANTASY SIX/6/VI…did…
FF7 was a total let down in every way…
From graphics (beat out by around a year)
To music (the only good songs have come as remixes and "The Black Mages)
Battle System (Seriously, I’m all for cloning humans in the real world, but in
videogame? Otaku plz)
Story (Let see…what was so epic and amazing about it again…O, right failed mamas boy villain killing the lover of both his ex bffs…erm…wha?)
Dialogue (Sure, FFs have had some…odd translations, sure, but at least they were complete and didn’t suck. I’ll take "You Spoony Bard" over anything cloud said any day)
Characters (2D characters in a 3D game; unlike FF6 which had 3D characters in a 2D game. And, lets not even go into the horrid stereotyping and transsexual shitfest designs of said characters.)
Yeah…
You can break it up a bunch of ways or not. FF fans won’t care as long as it ends up playable on hdd at a (hopefully) modest price. 4GB isn’t even that much, sad to say. What is that like 4-5 non-HD movies?
not if i have anything to say about it
Oh sh-
fix’d :smrt:
Oh sh-
We’ve long since left the "Insert disk 45" stage of gaming Neg. And that download time would be monstrous, I don’t like leaving my consoles on for 48hrs+.
SEE INFINITE UNDISCOVERY, SRSLY. PEOPLE MAKE REMAKES BECAUSE IT IS CALLED A RE- MAKE.
FFVIII needs no remake. All it really needs is some availability on PSN.
Why would SE release it on the PSN when they could just port it over to a handheld and make a ton more money like they are with Chrono Trigger?
All those saying VIII won’t be remade (or at least ported) are hilarious – SE has spammed out EVERY one of their retro games, and in due time we’ll see the same treatment with the PS1 games VII/VIII/IX. It may not happen soon, but it’ll happen – SE is basically sitting on a pile of free money and they know it.
They wouldn’t.
But this whole thread is one big wish list, no?
Not sure I agree with it, though
A game has to really be something to get a full blown remake
I realize this reply is 2 months late, but I don’t care. Jeff, I doubt the game would be a direct size upload from the PS1 disks. Also, I doubt they’d slap it on PSN just for the plain reason that it wouldn’t sell well enough.
Also, how shitty is your connection to require 48+ hours for a 4gig file?
Also, how shitty is your connection to require 48+ hours for a 4gig file?
Wait…since when is FF8 4 gigs?
It’s more like 2-3 gigs on my computer.
And that’s MY burn that I’m using for the PSP.
Agreed! Next-Generation doesn’t necessarily mean it will be better.
I agree. A next gen Lisa Garland would be so awesome 😮
That would be awesome.
Anyway onto the FF8 remake topic. While I definitely would love a remake of FF8 the chances of it happening at this point are slim to none. We can hope as much as we want, but I doubt SE will do anything such as a sequel.
I just had an argument with my friend Russ about this. He told me that Sony released a statement that Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VIII, and Final Fantasy IX was being re-released for the PS3 on one Blu-Ray disc…
I haven’t listened to him since.
I just had an argument with my friend Russ about this. He told me that Sony released a statement that Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VIII, and Final Fantasy IX was being re-released for the PS3 on one Blu-Ray disc…
I haven’t listened to him since.
I doubt thats true..i mean they already made the tech demo for FFVII but they said it was just an experiment not a real remake..i am quite happy to be proved wrong but i doubt its true!
I think you’re right about the remakes of the older versions…the only good reason to remake the old FF’s is because not many people would want to play the old consoles like that…it makes for better and easier sales if theyre on PSP’s or Nintendo DS…
FFVIII is wonderful as it is!
Wrong. They’re doing it for the money.
I just had an argument with my friend Russ about this. He told me that Sony released a statement that Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VIII, and Final Fantasy IX was being re-released for the PS3 on one Blu-Ray disc…
I haven’t listened to him since.
Russ… kinda like Ross.
Russ is wrong.
There are a million and a half ways that Square could make money, they don’t need remakes to do so.
QFT
No, but that is the easiest way, you naive person.
…I actaully don’t have any objections.
However, the point about Square sitting on free money is true. People like 8 just as much as 6 and 7 (Some of us even more so then others) and we all know that if they were to make it, we’d buy it, so it’s VERY possible it’ll happen.
If and when it does happen, there are only a few things I could see changing.
First, the Junctions System. While I loved it, many hated it because it meant they would be attacking all the time, not using the magic that gave them strength. I could see them keeping the system where they junction spells to their stats, but remove the whole ‘getting it from monsters/draw points around the world’. Instead, they’d learn them from the GF’s and what not, have their own MP bars and just junction the spell to them without using it up. So that way, people could cast fire untill their out of Mp and they’d STILL have it deal massive damage against ice enemies.
The second and last thing I could see happening is a clarity in story line. There are a few scenes in the game that really don’t make sense and often lead to one scratching their heads. I bet I’m not the only one confused by Squall’s out burst after finding Seifer was executed, only to go and be fine when they meet up with Irvine about 10 miuntes later. A remake would fix this, or at least make it understandable to us.
Of course graphics would be enhanced, but overall, 8 had good graphics to begin with. A remake would just streamline it.
^ This.
just put some REAL MUSIC [as in "played by an orchestra"] and better graphics
the thought of a remake of this game is what keeps me alive in this miserable world.
Preserved for posterity/lulz.
Also, considering this statement, an announcement that the game will never be remade would bring me great joy.
the level up system was pointless. it was bat to level up you characters as monsters leveled up when you did (stupid) the trick to ff8 was to draw magic for 8 hours throughout gameplay. junction it and bam your strong enough to defeat the last boss even if your lv 20.
Re-make, well they better make another game with the same name, thats how bad it was.
hi i hate this game and VII should have a remake cause its bettr
Hello, I’m a regular person. I don’t think this game needs a remake since it doesn’t call for one and it would be a waste of time.
how can u say that, the story was full of holes, everyone orphans is a piss poor excuse to not make a more detailed background for starters. some things didnt add up either.
yeah agree stories with time warps SO was patchy too but better than ff8
That’s a bit harsh, VIII had it’s good points too, it wouldn’t be better than IX otherwise. I still say VIII’s storyline was far better than the linear dross that X was.
It had action like missile base, suspense like what awaited you in Esther. X was like that thing i forget the name of, when you watch a hearse go by at 5 MPH and your following it on foot, but you have to stay behind it.
It’s THAT depressing. Almost like a Travis album. And you know the story has problems when you realize WAY before the main character that the person he loves is gonna die. Least with VII you honestly didn’t believe Squaresoft would actually do it till you seen the FMV.
Still, I can’t understand why these people are posting in a thread Labeled "FF8 HUNGERS for a remake." Don’t think so? Make another thread. VIII had a great storyline(Though personally, I would rathe either Edea stay the villainess, or more backstory on Ultimecia, weak endboss), great characters(Cloud Fanboys can leave, thanks), and great gameplay(Junctioning was a blast, as long as you weren’t abusing the system). The game sold extremely well.
You cant have ultimecia, i tell you a good VIII part 2 story.
We all know the guardian force take up a piece of memory, what if one person gained every guardian force that ever existed, until his entire mind was filled with the power of GF’s and nothing more, the reason ultimecia tried to escape her time and destroy the past was because this person posed such a huge threat in the future and she wanted to kill him before he became so powerful. (infact, weren’t their TWO feared witches, Adel and another?)
Thus Squall becomes involved because he happens to be directly linked to the GF griever that was spawned into existence by Ultimecia and still was imprinted into his memory. How’s that for just off the top of my head? i should work as a writer for SE.
OR
Some huge disaster befalls the world by the act of one individual with a huge amount of magic, in the opening sequence, the world is plunged into chaos but Squall and everyone kills him. Soon it transpires that this man with such power was just part of a larger team, and so huge was the effect on the world, the people began to hate the GF’s and demanded they be banished (gotta kill them to banish their power, or Squall defends the GF’s and they lend him power once more to aid them and kill the forces)
It turns out eventually that the group were descendants of Adel and the leader of that team is (well if I’m right on that other sorceress then its her) Otherwise it can be an Ex-Seed member, and thats why Ultimecia wants to destroy Seed because they were the reason that Ultimecia can only use griever as a GF.
(That one isn’t bad either, hey, it’s still better than Vegnagun, that really should have showed itself when Sin crashed into Bevelle)
FFVIII needs no remake. All it really needs is some availability on PSN.
VII not to high..?
Crisis Core
Dirge of Cerberus
Advent Children
Advent Children COMPLETE <–The hell?
No shit…better than all this FF7 crap.
I’d like to see some FF8 Spin-Offs.
I’m not sure how you could make a spin off, they pretty much covered everything then zipped it up.
I’d like everyone to stop spamming ffshrine about ff8 remakes, it’s not going to happen, and just give me a well deserved bj
Well, we would, but we all[that are ‘spamming’] like FF8 enough that we think it deserves a remake to fix some problems it had before.
^— Lulz, I liked the plot, but you have a excellent point, it should have.
OMG SIN! -crashes into city-
Vegnagun: OMG I FEEL THREATENED -bashes wall in and steals teh fayths-
Neg (from the past)!!! Guess what!!! Silent hill remake is coming… Well more of a re-imagining!
After actually looking back at this, it’s said so himself, or said so in his thoughts that he didn’t want to be forgotten and have people talk about him in past tense like they were doing with Seifer.
Yeah, basically. Squall covers his personality up and this was one of the first moments he actually showed it, so he runs off. As for why he’s fine with it later, he probably isn’t, just the others probably had things on their minds.
I think he just eventually came to terms with it. It obviously didn’t show it in the game because you’re Squall, but one would think that him running off like that was just to help calm himself down. Or something.
Yeah, maybe, I just passed that point in the game and it still seemed a little to detached.. Then again, who wants to sit through a half hour of Laguna followed by Squall talking to himself?
Once again, agreed. Haha, on the subject of the thread, they should remake it for the fact they could make it much more emotionally engaging than it was, and a all-around more attractive story, with some awesome combat if they gave it some work.
lol, yes past-Allen. Present-Neg has already paid it off.
Not at all, just with today’s technology, they could make a game with great graphics, a better combat/junctioning system, and keep the story, because the story is the best part, right? Just add in some "deleted scenes" or whatever they are to show a bit more detail to some side-stories.
I’ve been playing this game for the last few weeks after digging it out of all my old games, and some parts just don’t make sense, Laguna wasn’t explained enough, the Shumi tribe is 30 minutes of nonsense..Just little small details, they could take the story they had and make it all come together, nothing cut out. And I’m sure I’m one of the few on this, but atleast come out and show that Laguna is Squall’s father, and that Rinoa is/isn’t Ultimecia.
It explains a little bit about Laguna, but he is still a little bit to unexplained in my opinion. And though he is one of the more enjoyable characters, he is a moron, even Squall thinks so. xD
Laguna was hilarious, I thought. If anything, I would like to see a spin-off with Laguna, Kiros, and Ward. Like how they met and how they became buds. The hardships they went through together, and of course Laguna’s shenanigans instead of a remake.
Laguna was hilarious, I thought. If anything, I would like to see a spin-off with Laguna, Kiros, and Ward. Like how they met and how they became buds. The hardships they went through together, and of course Laguna’s shenanigans instead of a remake.
Now THAT would be a interesting game. But hey, you have a good point Laguna was hilarious, his best part:
"No way."
"Oh shi-"
"AHHH!"
XD
I laugh every time :D!
Laguna was hilarious, I thought. If anything, I would like to see a spin-off with Laguna, Kiros, and Ward. Like how they met and how they became buds. The hardships they went through together, and of course Laguna’s shenanigans instead of a remake.
He never told Squall that! He said "when this is over, I have something very important to tell you". Or something like that.
"When this is over, come talk to me, I have something important to tell you."
Something along those lines. xD
As for when he tosses Ward and Kiros off the cliff, priceless.
Wait, what the fuck? I hope you mean "story" in a general term and not specific to VIII.
Drawing System:
If it was more complex, dynamic and less time consuming the game would win.
It would take little to deepen it. A "subgame" just like Renzokuken has a timing one. One with a very high difficulty progression to take a badass master pro to be able to draw 100 magic with one action.
Drawing System2:
Draw should be as interconnected as Attack command.
It should by some conditions slow an opponent or even haste the user.
Enemies should have 100 magic Junctioned to themselves so they can also be weakened with drawing.
The Draw ratio should be effected by spells/ablilites like they effect Attack command(berserk, Cheer(FFx)).
If drawing from an undead, you risk getting cursed.
GFs and Limit breaks:
GFs should still power the character, but they ought to be summoned like in FF10.
Affinities with GFs should now effect the max damage/heal/effect-duration a GF can do (up to 99.999, right?), so it would be really worth watching the "overdrive" animation.
But GF overdrives must be harder to get because characters already have limit breaks, which should now be a mix between FF10/FF7 and FF8 ones. They should charge, but faster with low hp and status ailments so pros can get rid of already seen battles while noobs would only die that way.
And the more endangered, the stronger the limit breaks is a fancy rule.
Storytelling(spoiler alert):
There were a few scenes that seem to simply tell the facts rather than present them to give you emotions (like movies).
I found it disappointing you realize every one was from orphanage with Irvine’s "oh, by the way…". One of them should go trough old Cid’s files or something and get very surprised, please!
I found the the Master Norg’s revelation of Edea and Cid being married deliciously shocking, though.
Character Interactions(spoiler alert):
It would be nice if your actions/words effected your relations more. Thus instead of Rinoa you could date Quistis or Zell.
"Zell?!" Yeah Zell! Not everyone gets turned on by orthodox , ok? In fact, escaping moron reality is mostly the exact point of video games, so you can shove your "Why Squall and Zell option!?" in a Malboro!
Not that I disliked Rinoa and all the space romance, but it could be cool saving Selphie and her being all:"Tee-Hee, Aliens want us dead!" or at the last scene where normally Rinoa fingers Squall(Did it came out wrong?) Quistis would instead put her whip around him and Squall would of course react like a Squall would(I’m guessing a Squall would react not…much.).
General:
The main problem is whether it would be easier to convince SE to make a remake or would it be less time consuming to gather people to make a fan remake/mod and simply ask for SE’s permission to make it public?
I however won’t be able to commit well, because I’m going to a college soon.
More ideas, wishes? Disagreements? Post!
Here’s an idea… well, more along the lines of a wish I guess.
I wish idiots would stop posting this crap.
How’s that?
I would expect the same for the same for a Final Fantasy VII Remake. Don’t mess with the system. Throw in ATE for some side stories, and the development of minor characters. Add in Bonus Dungeons with Superbosses.
Whenever I see someone mention a FFVII Remake, no matter what the thread in question is, I tend to see red…
STOP TALKING ABOUT FFVII REMAKE!! IT WON’T HAPPEN! DEAL WITH IT!!
Talking about a FFVIII remake… I do like FFVIII, but to be honest I don’t want a remake of it. Some people say the graphics are dated and don’t look good, the system is too complicated etc etc etc…
To those people I say the following…
SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Remember, FFVIII came out on the Sony Playstation, back in September of 1999. People wanting a remake of it, cause ‘we don’t like the graphics’ shut up. The graphics for it’s time were quite good. Just because they aren’t comparable with some of the games now, doesn’t mean jack shit.
Personally, I’d prefer if everyone shut the fuck up about remake bullshit… but considering how SE has been ‘flogging the dead horse’ with FFVII and joined forces with that tyrannical Mickey Mouse Organization, what can you expect from them now?
Probably not. Same with VIII.
Doesn’t mean we can’t talk about one if there were to be one.
This is a forum, which is suppose to be about discussing things we enjoy.
We just so happen to enjoy the prospect of remakes of our favourite games.
If you don’t like us takling about it, just sneer at the thread title and stay out. That wait, you can give us some hate without anyone being hurt, and you don’t have to deal with the constant chatter of remakes.
So, in response to what I quoted:
No I wont. Probably not, but you cant prove it. Make me.
EDIT: Besides, when did I ever complain about the graphics? And I infact said, don’t mess with the system. The game is great as is, that you are correct. I would just like something new and shiny 🙂 I don’t need it. I can’t enjoy the game without a remake. I just want one. Plus, I want to see Rino, Selphie and Quistis in HD. Mmmm
Doesn’t mean we can’t talk about one if there were to be one.
This is a forum, which is suppose to be about discussing things we enjoy.
We just so happen to enjoy the prospect of remakes of our favourite games.
If you don’t like us takling about it, just sneer at the thread title and stay out. That wait, you can give us some hate without anyone being hurt, and you don’t have to deal with the constant chatter of remakes.
And yet there are still people going on and on about remakes. True, some remakes can be good. For example, porting a game from a console to handheld ala FFIV Advance, FFIV DS etc. As you stated this IS a forum, therefore I can voice my views if I so desire.
So, in response to what I quoted:
No I wont. Probably not, but you cant prove it. Make me.
I could comment here, but why bother?
EDIT: Besides, when did I ever complain about the graphics? And I infact said, don’t mess with the system. The game is great as is, that you are correct. I would just like something new and shiny 🙂 I don’t need it. I can’t enjoy the game without a remake. I just want one. Plus, I want to see Rino, Selphie and Quistis in HD. Mmmm
Did I state specifically that you complained about the graphics? Let’s take a look at my post eh?
People wanting a remake of it, cause ‘we don’t like the graphics’ shut up. The graphics for it’s time were quite good. Just because they aren’t comparable with some of the games now, doesn’t mean jack shit.
Where in that part did I specifically state that ‘MalLionheart is bitching about the graphics?’. I don’t think I did. I was referring to some people I have heard at game stores and other forums, complain about FFVIII’s graphics etc.
True. People are going on about it. But like I said(ish), who are you to tell them not to? And of course you’re allowed to share your opinion, and it’s as valid as anyone elses, but all you really said was that we were all stupid for having our own.
I could comment here, but why bother?
Probably for the best. It was kinda petty.
But, how is it any worse than…
STOP TALKING ABOUT FFVII REMAKE!! IT WON’T HAPPEN! DEAL WITH IT!! All your doing is telling us what to do, and that your opinion is truth, and that we need to deal with that fact.
I mean, why should we stop talking about it? What possible harm could befall anyone if we don’t?
Yes, it seems unlikely we’ll get a remake of any of the PS1 games, but you have no hard facts that say it’s impossible, do you?
The "Deal with it" is just kinda jerkish to be honest, and just kinda gives the impression you don’t want us to have our own views.
Did I state specifically that you complained about the graphics? Let’s take a look at my post eh?
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Where in that part did I specifically state that ‘MalLionheart is bitching about the graphics?’. I don’t think I did. I was referring to some people I have heard at game stores and other forums, complain about FFVIII’s graphics etc.
Good point. My bad. I apolagise.
Theres nothing wrong with the graphics, and it annoys me as well when people get put off the game for such a stupid reason. I just don’t think it would be all that terrible if they were better.
EDIT: The dialogue could do with updating. Zell is the first thing that comes to mind. I like him, but he seems like he was just a bunch of gobby stereotypes slammed into one. Just a bit of humanizing to the characters, and less of living stereotypes.
But, how is it any worse than…
All your doing is telling us what to do, and that your opinion is truth, and that we need to deal with that fact.
I mean, why should we stop talking about it? What possible harm could befall anyone if we don’t?
Yes, it seems unlikely we’ll get a remake of any of the PS1 games, but you have no hard facts that say it’s impossible, do you?
The "Deal with it" is just kinda jerkish to be honest, and just kinda gives the impression you don’t want us to have our own views.
The whole ‘FFVII Remake’ deal, in my opinion, started back when SE released the Technical Demo for the PS3 which was the opening to FFVII, IF FFVII had been released on that.
There have also been countless threads on this forum about a remake of FFVII. I honestly don’t think it’ll happen, no matter how much fanboys/girls bitch and whine about. FFVII Compilation is complete now, and I doubt SE would remake FFVII now, when they have other projects they are currently working on. The original development team for FFVII has either A: Moved on to other projects or; B: No longer work for SE.
Also, the original library files for FFVII are NOT held by SE but by Sony. From what I recall, that was part of the licensing agreement Square had with Sony at the time, to distribute FFVII SE had to give up the library files. For SE to make a remake of FFVII, they’d either need to suck ass to Sony to get those files back (at a considerable cost I’d imagine) or they’d have to rework everything of FFVII again from scratch, at a huge cost to themselves. Granted they’d probably recoup their losses with fanboys/girls creaming their pants in explosive delight at a FFVII Remake for whatever console is the flavor of the month, but that’s open to speculation.
The ‘Deal with it’ attitude I have regarding this, is due to the fact of having to read others complain how FFVII wasn’t made for PS2/PS3/Xbox/Xbox360 etc, which has not just irritated myself but countless others as well. It seems that every couple of months some person gets it in their peanut kernel of a brain the following:
‘Duuuhhh… there be no talk of FFvii remake, I better make another one to show how retarded fanboyish I am and how much I love that spiky headed dude, and how much i wish FFvii was remade on a better console’
Trust me, after seeing something like that appear countless times in the past, any talk of a remake would make anyone cringe and want to staple the offending poster’s genitalia (IF they have any) to the forehead of Uwe Boll with the intention of him making a film adaptation of their sorry excuse for a life.
EDIT: The dialogue could do with updating. Zell is the first thing that comes to mind. I like him, but he seems like he was just a bunch of gobby stereotypes slammed into one. Just a bit of humanizing to the characters, and less of living stereotypes.
Then he wouldn’t be Zell then, if they did that now would he?
Then he wouldn’t be Zell then, if they did that now would he?
I get your point, but I’m not saying completely rework his personality. There were some moments where he was really cool. Sometimes, it just seemed they just tried yo make him as loud and as obnoxious as possible without really thinking bout it. Besides, a remake would have voice actors, and if they didnt change it, it would no doubt get the same reputation concerning its voice acting as FFX & X-2 did. I’m fine with him being loud and obnoxious, but he needs to be well down.
A concern I have about an FFVII remake is ifI can deal with listening to Mr T through the whole game. It’s been fine in the small portions with had in Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus, but Barret talks quite alot in FFVII.
"What up fool! It’s Barret! I’ve found oil Cloud! Lotsa oil!"
Things like this have test audiances for voice actors to see if people think they fit.
I get your point, but I’m not saying completely rework his personality. There were some moments where he was really cool. Sometimes, it just seemed they just tried yo make him as loud and as obnoxious as possible without really thinking bout it. Besides, a remake would have voice actors, and if they didnt change it, it would no doubt get the same reputation concerning its voice acting as FFX & X-2 did. I’m fine with him being loud and obnoxious, but he needs to be well down.
A concern I have about an FFVII remake is ifI can deal with listening to Mr T through the whole game. It’s been fine in the small portions with had in Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus, but Barret talks quite alot in FFVII.
"What up fool! It’s Barret! I’ve found oil Cloud! Lotsa oil!"
Things like this have test audiances for voice actors to see if people think they fit.
I think this thread has been sidetracked enough. Any more discussion about FFVII should be done in the FFVII sub section of the forum.
Back to topic at hand, the original development team of FFVIII have moved on as well, same with the library files for FFVIII being in Sony’s possession. To make a remake of FFVIII without them, I seriously doubt would work well. Another being, would it be economically viable for SE to remake FFVIII? or even FFIX etc? With teams working on remakes, would SE have time to make any new projects, or to continue on with existing projects (FFXI Online and FFXIV)?
True SE would get some capital back, but at what cost? When will enough be enough?
Sometime in 2040
Yes, we here at Square-Enix-Disney conglomerate, are proud to reveal we are fully remaking all our back catalog of games, for the twenty-seventh time in a row. We feel confident that these new remakes will bring happiness, joy and love to you all.
Now that we’ve said that, please sign your souls over to us, to compensate us for this massive undertaking, as well as hand over your firstborn children, so we can remake them as ourselves.
No offense, but fuck that…
Sadly, not many would consider that a hefty price…
Not me though, I already owe both to Disney.
At the end of the day, if I get my remakes? Woo!
If not? I’ll live.
In all honesty though, even with those changes plus the obligatory improved graphics that would come with a remake, VIII would still be near the bottom of the tree in terms of FF games. I’d rather they did a prequel for FFX, along the Braska/Jecht/Auron storyline.
dude if they fixed the ff8 junction system then it wouldnt no longer be a remake
I said the same thing in another thread tonight!
Stop it!
(I do find it humorous though)
MAKEOVERRRR!
:fabulousbatman:
MAKEOVERRRR!
:fabulousbatman:
As for a remake, I think I can pretty much settle for having VII, VIII and IX (when it gets released as well) on my PSP; when it comes right down to it, I really wouldn’t want them any other way.
Agreed.
When I can get my PSP registered for the PSN (can’t at the moment due to location), as well as getting a bigger memory card duo, I most probably will get FFVIII, as I do enjoy that game more than I do FFVII (GASP! SHOCK HORROR! HE SAID HE LIKES FFVIII MORE THAN FFVII!!! KEEEEELL HIM!! – Idiot FFVII Fanboy).
When I can get my PSP registered for the PSN (can’t at the moment due to location), as well as getting a bigger memory card duo, I most probably will get FFVIII, as I do enjoy that game more than I do FFVII (GASP! SHOCK HORROR! HE SAID HE LIKES FFVIII MORE THAN FFVII!!! KEEEEELL HIM!! – Idiot FFVII Fanboy).
HAHA dude, your posts always seem to make me smile 😀 When I first got FFVII, I admit I loved it! It was my second FF game after IV as II for SNES which I think will always be my favorite, but I’ll be damned if I EVER considered VII to be "better" than any other FF game.. The very thought baffled me when I first got introduced to the whole concept of the whole "FFVII RULESZ! ALL UHTHUR GAMESZ SUHCK! I WILL PWN ALL FFVII N00BZS, LAWLZ!!! I AM TEH BEST PURSUHN IN TEH WUHRLD BECUZ I PALY FFVII! N E WUN HOO DUSNT PALY FFVII WILL BE PRAHMPTLY SENT RIDING ON THE PWNY WEN I C THEM! MUAHAHA!" mentality.
Whoops :O Didn’t mean to post twice :O
Dare I buy a PS3 or just use the computer program to put the game on my PSP??
…..you guys oh so totally suck more than FFVII does right now for getting me this way!! That’s right, I went that far.
Dare I buy a PS3 or just use the computer program to put the game on my PSP??
…..you guys oh so totally suck more than FFVII does right now for getting me this way!! That’s right, I went that far.
To coin the catchphrase of Dragon Age: Origins…
Join us.
But yeah, it would be nice to have a remake.
I’ve just quickly read trough it.
I’ll summerize:
Well, I’m not passonate about a remake anymore.
I would rather have a new FF than an FF8 remake, though if they made a sequel/prequel I’d probably fall for it.
Though I think I’m slowly getting sick of FF, I’ve had too much. I definitely enjoyed FF8, FF9 (Questis and Kuja ftw).
FFX-2 ruined FFX for me because I played it first.
FF1, FF2, FF4 I hardly even remember anymore.
FFV feels like it didn’t really have a story.
FF6 was some fun, too.
FF7, it was good, Sephiroph wasn’t half bad.
Confession: I guess it just irritated me that FF7 fanboys scream it to BE superior and it getting games made after it, while the FF8 game that grew on me was criticized with the most stupid arguments that just show that they don’t GET it: Drawing and fightning are just different difficulty adjusters than they are in FF7. They are reversed. Game too hard? Draw magic. You good at fights? Fight more.
It’s not retarded, it’s CONVENIENT!
And than they complain upon their own choice to spend hours drawing magic which is there to make the game easier and complain that the game is also too easy. stupid
So there you go, after you’ve randomly bombared my idea that FF8 is better stone to carve than FF7 I think I deserved to randomly bombard back.
I guess FF8 doesn’t need a remake. It’s okay, I get it, you don’t want it, and because you don’t want it, nobody is allowed to get it, right?…jerk
But fine. No games after FF8. FIIIIINE, but don’t say that a lot of people saying what I said is an argument AGAINST a remake.
I’m just going to go erase my account before some pricks makes me eat what THEY like. 🙁
Okay, that was a long angry bitter FURIOUS confession. Bye guys.
EDIT:errr, I don’t know how to delete the account.
lol, yes past-Allen. Present-Neg has already paid it off.
Double-past Allen and Neg, it was AWESOME 😀
I took the e out because it’s useless in that word.
More GF’s? There’s plenty in FFVIII as it is, don’t need anymore.
More Magic? Why? There’s already the stable of FF spells, so anymore won’t be pointless.
New dungeons and side quests, meh why bother?
Also, I LOVE frosting :D!
You know what? That’s a fantastic idea.
Total Recall baby.
No thank you.
Too late. SE already did that with the games ‘The Bouncer’ and ‘Final Fantasy X-2’ as well as the ‘Compilation of Final Fantasy VII’.
Yes, I really said that.
And about earlier FF’s being remade, that’s fine; the originals used outdated graphics (which are perfectly fine btw), and it is kinda interesting to see them updated to 3-d. But it’s no necessity. I honestly have no interest in a ‘remake’ of anything past VI. Just leave it be.
I admit, I probably would get it, if it was remade and only if it wasn’t altered from how it was originally back in 1999 (apart from a graphic update that is). Sentimental reasons as to why.
Yes, I really said that.
What’s "The Bouncer"?
And about earlier FF’s being remade, that’s fine; the originals used outdated graphics (which are perfectly fine btw), and it is kinda interesting to see them updated to 3-d. But it’s no necessity. I honestly have no interest in a ‘remake’ of anything past VI. Just leave it be.
i’d change Selphie’s panties to a thong.
I’d change them to nothing. But that’s just me and I’m getting off topic. But seriously the chick likes trains. That’s hot.
HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bouncer). A poor reworking of the Double Dragon series… bad voice acting, character design and story… all in all a bad game.
….he was ashamed he bought it. 😉