The Biggest Flaw of X-2 (SPOILERS)

I realize there’s a lot of people who hate this game but I quite like it.

However there is one thing that has always and will always bug me.

The Good and Perfect Ending suck balls.

Firs toff, let’s compare.
YouTube – Final Fantasy X-2 Normal Ending (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99fn1kS1IMc)

YouTube – Final Fantasy X-2 Second Best ending a.k.a. good ending (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNf3vHJRz24)

YouTube – Final Fantasy X-2 "Perfect Ending" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbugG6m0b-A)

Now for anyone who has tried to get or gotten 100% Completion in one playthrough you know it’s not the easiest and most enjoyable thing to do. You have to do the most random tedious crap imaginable. I can’t even begin to count how many hours I spent trying to get my Chocobos up to the best level and then sending htem all out to find that secret dungeon in the Calm Lands.

And you could at least fight then. Other things like the CommSpheres just demanded you watch some stupid mook guard stand around….

And you do all this…for the two POS endings I showed you.

The only reason I even attempt to get a lot of the story completed is because you’re actually given a choice not to see Tidus again at which point you get the nice Normal Ending.

Ah, finally – someone else who prefers the normal ending! The good ending just seemed so… unbelievable to me. And that’s saying a lot considering all the crap that went on during the game. Tidus should have stayed dead, or faded, or whatever the hell happened to him.

I agree; there’s beauty in FFX’s bittersweet ending that should not have been tampered with in its sequel. That being said, they did anything but add to the story and instead simply ruined what was great about X’s powerful ending. In effect, they stripped its meaning away entirely. I haven’t played the game yet, but I know how the endings work out (at least the "good" ending) and I have to say, all of the emotion and feeling behind FFX is gone after X-2 simply brings Tidus right back.

Imagine this; you’re watching Titanic. Jack dies at the end. A sequel comes along, and Jack is resurrected, and he and Rose live happily ever after in an alternate universe. Okay, that would kinda ruin the entire meaning behind the first film, wouldn’t it? Same applies here. . . . Just because an ending is sad doesn’t mean you have to conjure a sequel to "take the pain of it away", like I’ve seen some people mention on various sites. All it does is turn it into another cliche’d "happily ever after" tale, when there’s nothing wrong with a little sad here and there in fiction.

…Umm the whole reason I wanted to play this game was cause I hated X’s ending so I enjoyed the "good" ending the perfect ending I was "meh" on ah well each his own.

Miss Yuna is Final Fantasy X-2 Yuna.
Like the game in which she appears, Miss Yuna is not meant to be taken seriously. She’s lighthearted, makes a lot of incredibly stupid jokes, and is rife with canonically implied lesbianism. She also lives in an airship with a perky blond, a hot silver-haired swordswoman, two douchebags, a ten-year-old leper, a skank, the skank’s two goons(for a total of four douchebags), a dark-skinned little girl who sounds like Susie from Rugrats, and a giant bird. Why she never sees giant bird poo everywhere, Miss Yuna will never know.
Oh yeah, and there’s this Australian guy who sells Miss Yuna magical beverages, which she turns around and sells for twice the cash to an Arabic Star Wars reject.

I heard there was some disc in the Japanese version of the game (came with it) and it is like a 30 minute video of yuna, and rikku doing something or other. i can’t remember. anybody have that?

Miss Yuna is Final Fantasy X-2 Yuna.
Like the game in which she appears, Miss Yuna is not meant to be taken seriously. She’s lighthearted, makes a lot of incredibly stupid jokes, and is rife with canonically implied lesbianism. She also lives in an airship with a perky blond, a hot silver-haired swordswoman, two douchebags, a ten-year-old leper, a skank, the skank’s two goons(for a total of four douchebags), a dark-skinned little girl who sounds like Susie from Rugrats, and a giant bird. Why she never sees giant bird poo everywhere, Miss Yuna will never know.
Oh yeah, and there’s this Australian guy who sells Miss Yuna magical beverages, which she turns around and sells for twice the cash to an Arabic Star Wars reject.

I can tell you put absolutely every last bit of your brainpower into this post.

Who is the 10 year old leper?

Eh? You referring to me or Captain whatever?

Either, whoever can answer the question. I was referring to what Captain said.

Oh. Probably means Shinra.
He’s the only person who could possily be ten.

Oh right. Forgot about him.

And, he forgot Clasko.

Yeah, other ending were trash.
It’s like FF9, I think it should have ended sooner than it did.
Good for them and their ‘twist’ at the end, there shouldn’t have been a twist.

My other complaint Yuna’s personality changing so suddenly. She just wasn’t ‘Yuna’.

I thought IX’s ending was perfect myself.

And, he forgot Clasko.

"She also lives in an airship with a perky blond, a hot silver-haired swordswoman, two douchebags, a ten-year-old leper, a skank, the skank’s two goons(for a total of four douchebags), a dark-skinned little girl who sounds like Susie from Rugrats, and a giant bird"

and the guy who regularly has sex with the giant bird.

Now the idiocy is complete.

I thought IX’s ending was perfect myself.
Monkey boy should have stayed MIA.

To me, X-2 appears to be comparable to what Crisis Core is to FFVII; sort of a spinoff. I don’t consider it a full-fledged sequel, simply because it seems to lack the depth and complexity that FFX offered. I really can’t talk because I’ve yet to play it (although I’ve seen plenty of videos now) but that’s just my opinion as of now.

I love the fact that the game deals with the fallout of the faith vanishing and Yevon exposed. It had the potential to be such an epic of a sequal with the factions throughout the game gearing for war. It would have been better if it was more serious, and maybe one major male playable character (Nooj, perhaps I kind of like him). Then the climax perhaps a big threeway war/ fight between the factions. I do like the "What do we do now" feel of the world, no sin, but we have to deal with our problems now without blaming some huge entity.. That’s what I think.

BalambStudent… you’ve been here since 2005 I would have expected better.

Ah, scratch that, it hasn’t been a year. But anyway I’ll say that I think the point of the "Perfect Ending" wasn’t all about bringing Tidus back. The idea was more to tie up a loose-end plot point that’s revealed in their dialogue.

It was kind of cool, being in that world with no SIN considering everything revolved around Sin and Yevon previously. Kind of like, imagine FF7’s world with no Meteor threat…

Though remember, when Seymour was defeated and sent, he did say "Spira will continue to suffer" even without Sin, and this shows that he was kind of right, considering the events of this game.

For some reason, I don’t really mind the good or perfect endings. Call me a sucker for happy endings, especially with that sentimental piano music playing while Yuna stands in the same spot as Tidus did at the beginning of X. I realize that the game may not have warranted Tidus’s return, and I suppose this is a debate that can be expanded to many such stories. If it was a flaw, then I think the flaw was making the player work really hard to see those endings; maybe they should have just chosen to include the extended ending or not.

I think, and I’ve said this before, that the biggest flaw of the game was making Vegnagun and Shuyin the main antagonists. On the one hand, I don’t really get what they’re doing here. I mean, come on, if the dresspheres caused so many problems, then why not switch back to the sphere grid? Well, I haven’t played the game in a few years, so I’m a bit rusty on the plot.

I think the main antagonists should have been the Youth League, New Yevon, and Machine Faction and the civilians who back them up. I would have liked the Spirans, after a culminating catastrophic war, to realize that they are the ones responsible for Spira’s suffering. However, by putting the blame on some huge skeletal machine just dehumanizes the source of misery, which is, after all, a human source.

But the endings themselves, which are of course personal to Yuna (and the viewers) didn’t really bother me. It’s sort of like choosing between two vastly different alternate endings of a movie (the endings of True Romance come to mind). In the end, you get to decide which one to go with, even if you don’t agree with the director’s decision for the final cut; although the endings may not have been incentive enough for what the player had to do to achieve them.

Fan service was the biggest flaw of FF X-2.

I don’t know what flaw is the biggest, but I’ll say two: The music and that the map is already all at your disposal (Which is logic, assuming you beat X first; but ruins all the exploration fun for me).

I don’t know what flaw is the biggest, but I’ll say two: The music and that the map is already all at your disposal (Which is logic, assuming you beat X first; but ruins all the exploration fun for me).

Add Yuna’s newfound ‘bad girl’ persona that doesn’t fit her even remotely and I agree with you 100%.

Fan service was the biggest flaw of FF X-2.

I don’t know what flaw is the biggest, but I’ll say two: The music and that the map is already all at your disposal (Which is logic, assuming you beat X first; but ruins all the exploration fun for me).

Add Yuna’s newfound ‘bad girl’ persona that doesn’t fit her even remotely and I agree with you 100%.

All true. Also the fact it’s a sequel to a (imo that is) a poor FF game as well.

I think the main antagonists should have been the Youth League, New Yevon, and Machine Faction and the civilians who back them up. I would have liked the Spirans, after a culminating catastrophic war, to realize that they are the ones responsible for Spira’s suffering. However, by putting the blame on some huge skeletal machine just dehumanizes the source of misery, which is, after all, a human source.

Oooh. That could’ve been more interesting.

Same with a change in Yuna’s personality and no Leblanc. She and her fags felt as out of place as Vegnagun and Shuyin.

Yuna’s personality needed to keep it real. Her badassness is transparent and fake. I believe that FFX-2 takes Yuna’s personality change to an illogical place.

The more I try to play through this game, the more it just seems to ruin the whole feel of the world FFX immersed me in, as if the ending doesn’t already (which, I already know what happens anyway, so it’s not gonna be any surprise assuming I get the ‘good’ ending). It feels more like a sort of parody than a true sequel. Almost like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2; WTF were they thinking?! That’s exactly what comes to mind with FFX-2.

One good thing is the battle system; I’m really enjoying it. I wish they’d reuse it, in fact, because I agree with everyone who says it’s one of the best in the game. That, along with Rikku’s rather fetching new attire, are what keep me playing.

edit: Oh, and as I browse to post #16 again, I have to say that it does NOT feel like what Crisis Core is to FFVII; in this game I actually do feel like I’m still playing in the same world as the predecessor. Crisis Core is like a whole different universe with its dramatically different graphics. But X-2 does not feel like a spinoff either, just a freakin’ parody of something that should’ve been left alone.

The biggest flaw in X-2 was that it even happened. FFX was the first ever Final Fantasy game that had a sequel, as well as the first Final Fantasy game that had actual talking characters. Well, since the major milestones had been passed, what was left for FFX-2? Nothing. Don’t get me wrong, it was fun to play (the first couple of times) and had a great battle system, but there was really nothing major that set it apart from FFX (except that X had a better storyline). Final Fantasy has always, for as long as I can remember, had a main character with a love interest. So that didn’t really make X-2 stand out either. Yuna lost Tidus and then in the end they were reunited. Ta-da. You can tune into lifetime and see crap like that.

I know, I used to loooove and swear by X-2. But I’ve grown up a lot and moved on from the sappy storyline that entertained me when I was 14/15.

The biggest flaw in X-2 was that it even happened. FFX was the first ever Final Fantasy game that had a sequel, as well as the first Final Fantasy game that had actual talking characters. Well, since the major milestones had been passed, what was left for FFX-2? Nothing. Don’t get me wrong, it was fun to play (the first couple of times) and had a great battle system, but there was really nothing major that set it apart from FFX (except that X had a better storyline). Final Fantasy has always, for as long as I can remember, had a main character with a love interest. So that didn’t really make X-2 stand out either. Yuna lost Tidus and then in the end they were reunited. Ta-da. You can tune into lifetime and see crap like that.

I know, I used to loooove and swear by X-2. But I’ve grown up a lot and moved on from the sappy storyline that entertained me when I was 14/15.

I lol’d.

You’re absolutely right; it offers just a whole bunch of nothing worthwhile after one finishes X. X is fine as is; leave it alone, SE! Oh wait, too late. But meh, if we don’t like it, we shan’t play it, right?

the only reason why i bothered with x2 was for rikku in her yellow bikini.

the only reason why i bothered with x2 was for rikku in her yellow bikini.
You could’ve just looked up images of her online. Just saying.

On topic: Yeah, the Perfect Ending sucks. I never bothered with that Chocobo and Cacti crap. The Good Ending is so much better (love how it ties in with FFX’s ending)

with rikku, that wasnt enough. i had to play the game

it was too different from ff10, it almost didnt make sense as a sequel. About the only thing that let it be a sequel was the characters and locations. If they were changed then it could well have been a stand alone game

a poor FF game ?
shrugs.

FFX has a lot of fans.

As for X-2 it does feel like a parody especially with Leblanc and her revealing outfits.

I agree with the last poster about the battle system.It’s superior to FFXII and FFXIII’s systems I also wish they would use it again.

The game was ok.I don’t regard it as a serious effort by Square nor do I believe it should be considered as such.

a poor FF game ?
shrugs.

FFX has a lot of fans.

As for X-2 it does feel like a parody especially with Leblanc and her revealing outfits.

I agree with the last poster about the battle system.It’s superior to FFXII and FFXIII’s systems I also wish they would use it again.

The game was ok.I don’t regard it as a serious effort by Square nor do I believe it should be considered as such.

I really hope not…

People keep buying it, Square will keep on making it.

Too much "Fail" fan service.

The biggest flaw of Final Fantasy X-2 was Final Fantasy X-2

I enjoyed the good ending, and it doesn’t take 100% to get it, all you have to do is press x a couple of times during a few scenes so it’s not that taxing and is a proper CGI scene. I did like the ending because I did want Tidus to survive, I didn’t like him dead at the end of X. The biggest flaw of X-2 I think was Yuna’s personality change, she seriously wasn’t the same person at all and it wasn’t good. I prefer to imagine that X-2 happened with the same Yuna as X 🙂 makes it much better imo.

The perfect ending was annoying, because you had gone to all the trouble of getting 100% and it wasn’t even a proper CGI scene which was a major disappointment. They could have done so much more with the perfect ending that they didn’t and it was a disappointment – not as much as Yuna’s personality though.

Xx..xX

the biggest flaw of x-2 was that yuna wasnt wearing a blue bikini.
i fiku was wearing a yellow one, why the fuck yuna isnt?

paine can go fuck her fugly self

the biggest flaw of x-2 was that yuna wasnt wearing a blue bikini.
i fiku was wearing a yellow one, why the fuck yuna isnt?

paine can go fuck her fugly self

Paine was the only character that was bearable.

Indeed – she was basically a female Auron, and wasn’t one to mince words or beat around the bush. Not to mention I loved her whole leather/punk rocker Warrior appearance. Also, I laughed when she actually told Rin the unpleasant truth – he really is a jackass. :p

personally i thought everything about x-2 was pretty Awesome….only thing that threw me off was the goofy techno style music.

I feel like this topic is already redundant enough, but I will still add my 2cents.

FFX-2 is not one of the best FFs of all time. I am a big fan on FF, especially FFX. The storyline was complex, full of twists and turns and I feel like FFX-2 didn’t compliment it at all. X-2 was more of a…girly, childish game. Only reason I say that it is childish is because of all the minigames and things to do that have nothing to do with the actual plot.

Although, I am glad I played through FFX-2. For folks who wanted answers at the end of FFX (even though there was a lot to be said about what wasn’t said) this was a good game. It always kept me entertained enough. And the storyline wasn’t that bad. But I am one of the people who think FFX ended beautifully, and did not need further explanation.

Anywho, the biggest flaw would have to be the extreme amount of minigames/crap that had nothing at all to do with the actual story.

I always thought the biggest flaw to X-2 was that it seems that way too much has happened since the end of FFX to have just 2 years passed. None of the characters(with the exception of Yuna/Rikku) seemed to have aged. Pacce is still a kid but Cassie(it was Cassie wasn’t it? Miss Chocobo Lover) grew up. Um ok…speaking of chocobos, again, only 2 years and an entire species seems almost extinct because no one is using them anymore? Another big flaw for me was the non-linear format. I ‘cheated’ and looked up 100% walkthrough while I played it. I do like however that you could go back and get more goodies out of chests in different chapters. Now to the new characters:
Leblanc Syndicate: Blech…
Nooj: Don’t like the hair, and the name Nooj seems silly to me. Otherwise had the makings to be an interesting character, except when he gets ‘depressed’ he just seemed whiny.
Gippal: Funny in an interesting way. Don’t like the hair and the jester outfit, but he had potential.
Barelai: Had lots of potential too, looked like an Eskimo(not meaning that in a bad way either, just an observation).
Paine: Might have liked her better if they’d revealed she was Auron’s daughter(I know there’s debate about it, but to me she is).
Shuyin: 1000years and he’s intent on making the same mistakes over and over again. And it’s everyone else’s fault too, just ask him.

3rd biggest flaw to me was having to view the hot springs FIFTEEN TIMES to get 100%.

And during the Thunder Plains concert, when Yuna/Lenne was singing the line "On silver wings" I kept thinking she was going to say "Subaru" because it just reminded me of a car commercial.