So what the hell did I do this time? A lot more than I planned. I started working on this not long after I finished the temple remake. I did the sorting and preliminary work, but got stuck on a very important decision. The Concord Box Set was great for the previously unreleased tracks, but was otherwise riddled with problems. It was louder, which was good, but there seemed to be a lot of hiss and bad edits. Plus, some parts had altered mixes which hurt the feel for me. I first planned to combine the 1995 DCC release with the Concord set, using the best segments from each; a mash-up basically. It felt wierd to switch so much between sources, so I thought to just use my old edition and replace the bootleg-sourced cues with the Concord versions. I asked a few trustees for feedback on that idea. I never got a direct answer, so I can only assume they didn’t like it. I reached a stalemate and couldn’t figure out whether to lean more toward DCC or Concord, so I shelved the whole project for about a year and a half. During my recent communique with Dayv, I realized what to do… Two complete versions of the entire remake, Virtually identical in structure; one DCC-based, the other Concord-based.
DCC VERSION:
Contrary to my original idea, I didn’t throw my original edition in here with some replaced cues. I went back to square one, compared the original DCC tracks inch-by-inch to the film audio, and made a new version. In doing so, I realized how much I missed the first time. The various issues have all been corrected.
Some edits from my old edition were perfect, and it would be stupid to do them again, so those were kept. They came from my WAV source, not the 128k mp3’s that were posted. Aside from that, all DCC disc material came directly from the original CD rips, and was not just copied over. Many edits were remade from scratch, using the CD rips. Much more fine-tuning was done this time around, meaning that I fixed a lot of funky DCC edits and anomalies that I missed last time.
Any material taken from sources outside the DCC release was mastered to match the DCC volume and sound as closely as possible.
All source music (Cairo street music, etc.) is included here. It came from the DVD surround channels, so there are sound effects present. There is no dialogue, other than occasional crowd voices, and I did everything I could to reduce or remove the present sound effects.
Film version; An exact replica of the score’s presentation in the movie.
CONCORD VERSION:
What were they doing… I couldn’t believe how many bad edits were in this set. Some were also on the DCC set, so in those cases, they obviously just brightened the DCC masters and didn’t pay attention.
I must say that when I started working with this version, it wasn’t as bad as I thought. Everything that troubled me turned out to be fixable, and with everything fixed, I much prefer this version to the DCC version. Never thought that would happen.
This version was purely made from scratch. All film edits are newly made, and I fixed all the bad CD edits I heard. I did a lot of work to take out clicks and other wierd noises, and reduced the hiss in the spots where it bothered me. Hiss is simply part of this master, and I couldn’t remove any more of it without hurting the feel. I did smooth it out between tracks to make it less ridiculous. Either I’m used to hearing it, or I removed enough of it, but I don’t notice the hiss anymore.
I mentioned altered mixes before; this only happened in three spots. I replaced those portions (not whole tracks) with the DCC versions, which I mastered to match the surrounding Concord material. It took a lot of tricky editing and crossfades to make this happen. The Concord mixes of these are available as alternates in the music version.
The Desert Chase sequence has been restored to it’s full length. The horrible Concord edit (which is actually a remaster of the 1981 album edit) served as the bulk of the track, with all the missing pieces snuck in from the DCC version. I like to think of myself as a humble fellow, but I’ll allow myself this once – I kicked ass on this one. F U Concord!
I. Film Version (DCC) – https://mega.co.nz/#!7ggHURbI!C8Y30k…KDt3w_qvPQvAzU
II. Music Version (DCC) – https://mega.co.nz/#!W44AUICB!TUsRSq…752KnUz2lb7vME
III. Film Version (Concord) – https://mega.co.nz/#!rkQ0gIoI!TZj10U…_YnBlKntvMfi_g
IV. Music Version (Concord) – https://mega.co.nz/#!GkhBERCI!s35H5R…tdtjtW5QubElUY
there are I and IV what avout II and III ?
i can’t wait for a last crusade definitive edition
And there’s still two middle portions coming (II & III) – is that correct?
And, from part I. Film Version (DCC), what is the 9:50 WAV version of track 8 "Chaos & Baskets – Marion’s Death – The Tavern"? Because there’s also an 5:10 mp3 version of track 8 already included within bundle I. Is the WAV version an "alt version"?
It’s all golden, I’m just trying to clarify so I can lable everything as accurately as possible.
Thanks!:)
Do you happen to know what moniker the original editor of this share goes by? I like to sometimes put that kind of source information into the track property comments, or even integrate it into the name of the album (e.i. ”Raiders Of The Lost Ark [jacksparrow900 Definitive Edition]”), just so I’m able to further distiguish it from any other fanmade versions of the score I might acquire.
If not, I’ll just call it the "jacksparrow900 Definitive Edition", merely for my own convenience. At least that way I’ll have an inkling of where I originally got it from.
At any rate, the 9:50 version of track 8 is indeed the "jacksparrow900 Edit", so I can lable that appropriately. Even though you maybe didn’t intend on sharing it, I thank you for it just the same!:)
Not a big deal at all, I’m just OCD like that. Thanks again!:)
Thanks JS900!:)
…and, of course, thanks to the ever elusive "Dan" as well!
Please don’t feel obligated to indulge me any further. I promise, whatever the case, this will be the last of my pestering. The last thing I want to be is a nag, so apologies up-front, but…
Is "Dan Dolan" his name for real? Do you know him personally or does he just not mind putting his name out there – or both?
Of course, there is no more truthful answer that exist in the universe than "I don’t know". Totally valid response. Also "shut-up" does well in a pinch too!
Sorry, but for some stupid reason you’ve got me intrigued my this magician. I don’t really even know why, to tell you the truth. It’s not like I’m gonna go track him down and kiss his hand or something, lol! Curiosity is just peaked out of sheer boredom, I’m quite sure. I think maybe it’s just the cryptic nature of the whole thing, lol.
Anyway, if you’re tired of putting up with my nonsense and would rather skip coddling my every whim, I’ll understand.
I kinda feel myself becoming a nuisance with all my insatiable questions of absolutely no consequence. Just infer I calm down and I shall do so!
Or ignoring me is a completely cool option as well, I’ll take the hint. lol! ๐
Incredible work!
Okay cool.
I hope I haven’t been too much of a bug by continually pressing you over such trivial frivolity.
Thanks for quenching my inquisitiveness, you’re a prince!:)
I’m "a little bit" lost :what are exactly those parts II and III compared to parts I and IV ?
Thanks !
Seem to be a problem with third link (Fists concord portion). Can it be fixed? I’d appreciate very much!
Upload to other server… please…
I. Film Version (DCC) – https://mega.co.nz/#!7ggHURbI!C8Y30kteaSMboy5oQJg10te8TRMVZKDt3w_qvPQ vAzU
II. Music Version (DCC) – https://mega.co.nz/#!W44AUICB!TUsRSqjaucGOIrEfIMLfqXT-WRIg2752KnUz2lb7vME
III. Film Version (Concord) – https://mega.co.nz/#!rkQ0gIoI!TZj10UPuNonqIDQR1qvH8NG-BChAO_YnBlKntvMfi_g
IV. Music Version (Concord) – https://mega.co.nz/#!GkhBERCI!s35H5RUOzxHaordt4O7zNxwyQz0DOtdtjtW5Qub ElUY
So I guess "Music Version" is the soundtrack album arrangement (with bad edits fixed) while "Film Version" is as heard in the film (with bad edits fixed), right? Which version is best in terms of overall seamlessness/sound quality?
Is the Temple Of Doom Definitive Edition previously posted in this forum done by the same person?
I just wish one of the specialty labels would release this, in complete form and get it right!
I. Film Version (DCC) – https://mega.co.nz/#!7ggHURbI!C8Y30kteaSMboy5oQJg10te8TRMVZKDt3w_qvPQ vAzU
II. Music Version (DCC) – https://mega.co.nz/#!W44AUICB!TUsRSqjaucGOIrEfIMLfqXT-WRIg2752KnUz2lb7vME
III. Film Version (Concord) – https://mega.co.nz/#!rkQ0gIoI!TZj10UPuNonqIDQR1qvH8NG-BChAO_YnBlKntvMfi_g
IV. Music Version (Concord) – https://mega.co.nz/#!GkhBERCI!s35H5RUOzxHaordt4O7zNxwyQz0DOtdtjtW5Qub ElUY
Any chance these are available in flac. I absolutely love the film edit of the end credits. Bravo!