<font color="red">If you’re visiting for the first time, please familiarize yourself with the rules, which appear below the list of current entrants. If you’ve been around for a while, then a refresher couldn’t hurt, but you’re welcome to skip past these:</font>
Current Edition – Character Pairings – Round 2
Firion and Maria – Final Fantasy II – Childhood Friends (Going on to Round 3)
Cecil Harvey and Rosa Joanna Farrell – Final Fantasy IV – Married
Strago Magus and Relm Arrowny – Final Fantasy VI – Grandfather and Granddaughter (Eliminated in Round 1)
Celes Chere and Locke Cole – Final Fantasy VI – Lovers (Going on to Round 3)
Edgar Roni and Sabin Rene Figaro – Final Fantasy VI – Brothers (Going on to Round 3)
Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockhart – Final Fantasy VII – Childhood Friends (Going on to Round 3)
Cloud Strife and Aeris/th Gainsborough – Final Fantasy VII – Romantic
Cloud Strife and Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII – War Buddies (Eliminated in Round 2)
Aeris/th Gainsborough and Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII – Antagonists
Barrett Wallace and Marlene – Final Fantasy VII – Father and Adoptive Daughter (Eliminated in Round 2)
Nanaki and Bugenhagen – Final Fantasy VII – Grandfather and Adoptive Grandson (Going on to Round 3)
Reno and Rude – Final Fantasy VII – Partners (Going on to Round 3)
Elena and Tseng – Final Fantasy VII – Lovers
Scarlet and Heidegger – Final Fantasy VII – Coworkers (Going on to Round 3)
Squall Leonhart and Laguna Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Son and Father (Eliminated in Round 2)
Squall Leonhart and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Rivals (Eliminated in Round 2)
Zell Dincht and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Rivals (Eliminated in Round 2)
Rinoa Heartilly and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Formerly Dating
Laguna and Raine Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Married (Going on to Round 3)
Fujin and Raijin – Final Fantasy VIII – Friends/Partners (Eliminated in Round 2)
Cid and Edea Kramer – Final Fantasy VIII – Married (Going on to Round 3)
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII – Comrades (Going on to Round 3)
Marcus and Blank – Final Fantasy IX – "Brothers" (Eliminated in Round 2)
Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Married (Going on to Round 3)
Queen Brahne and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Mother and Adoptive Daughter
Garland and Kuja – Final Fantasy IX – Creator and Creation (Eliminated in Round 2)
Biran and Yenke – Final Fantasy X – Friends (Eliminated in Round 2)
Wakka and Lulu – Final Fantasy X-2 – Husband and Wife (Eliminated in Round 2)
Brother and Buddy – Final Fantasy X-2 – Best Friends (Eliminated in Round 2)
Basch fon Ronsenburg and Reks – Final Fantasy XII – Captain and Soldier
Balthier and Fran – Final Fantasy XII – Partners (Going on to Round 3)
Snow Villiers and Serah – Final Fantasy XIII – Engaged
<font color="red">Rules:
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<li>In each edition of the Rumble, a list of Final Fantasy things that are related in some way (such as music pieces, FMVs, etc.) is compiled, sometimes by me, sometimes with the help of nominations.
<li>Battles are held one-on-one in a series of round until things get down to one final battle, determining the winner for that edition of the Rumble.
<li>In the first round, ties are broken this way — whichever entrant was winning before the battle ended continues to the next round. In rounds after that, tie-breakers are based on the percentage of votes than an entrant received in past rounds.
<li>Generally, each round is left open for 48 hours, but it might sometimes be more or less. The rumble is usually updated somewhere between 9 P.M. and 1 A.M. eastern time. Usually it won’t go any longer except under special circumstances. If an entrant is winning by a blowout of four votes or more (formerly six votes), I will end that battle as soon as I notice it and a new battle will immediately commence.
<li>Discussion is usually not allowed, however, you are encouraged to post your thoughts with your vote. This helps me to count the vote total without confusion. If you have any questions, please PM (private message) Agent0042.
<li>You are asked to put your vote (only your vote, not any other included discussion) in bold, although this is not required. To bold your vote, put b within < > or [ ] before it and /b within < > or [ ] after it.
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Here are the results from all past editions:
Character Themes – Tifa’s Theme (Tifa’s Seventh Heaven) (Final Fantasy VII)
Summons – Knights of the Round (Final Fantasy VII)
Weapons – Masamune (Sephiroth) (Final Fantasy VII)
Outfits – Cloud Strife (Final Fantasy VII)
Overdrives/Limits – Renzokuken Special Lionheart (Squall) (Final Fantasy VIII)
Most Overrated Character – Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
FMVs – Ending (Back to the New Present / Ending and Credits / Together at Last) (Final Fantasy VIII)
NPCs – Regent Cid Fabool (Final Fantasy IX)
Best Final Fantasy Scene – Zidane’s Big Reveal (Final Fantasy IX)
Battle Themes – One Winged Angel (Final Fantasy VII)
Bosses – Ultros (Final Fantasy VI)
Character Themes 2 – Red XIII’s Theme (Final Fantasy VII)
Most Underrated Character – Jessie (Final Fantasy VII)
"Create-a-Character" – Lulu’s Hairstyle (Final Fantasy X/X-2), Quina Quen’s Facial Features, Auron’s Sunglasses (Final Fantasy X), Freya Crescent’s Outfit (Final Fantasy IX), Black Mage
Categorized Music Themes 2 – Mystery Sword (Final Fantasy IX)
Greatest Quotes – Kuja’s First Act: The End of Ugly Desire (Final Fantasy IX)
Coolest Monster Design – Malboro
Coolest Monster Design, Special Class – Mega Tonberry
Best Optional Boss – Tantarian (Final Fantasy IX)
Mini-Games – Blitzball (Final Fantasy X)
Best Gameplay Innovation – FMVs / Full Motion Videos (Final Fantasy VII and onwards)
Best Vehicle – Balamb Garden (Final Fantasy VIII)
Categorized Music Themes, Original Themes (But Different Tunes) – Cid’s Theme (Final Fantasy VII)
Abilities – Mug/Steal (Most Final Fantasies)
Most Boring/Annoying Subplot/Sidequest – Thunder Dodging (Final Fantasy X — dodge 200 lightning bolts in the Thunder Plains)
Character Themes 3 – Kefka (Final Fantasy VI)
Bosses 2 – Gilgamesh (Final Fantasy V)
Blue Magic / Enemy Skills – Blowfish / 1000 Needles (Several FFs)
Categorized Locations – Lindblum (Final Fantasy IX)
Subvillains – The Turks (Final Fantasy VII)
Missions – Sorceress Assassination Mission (Final Fantasy VIII)
Battle/Chase Themes – Dancing Mad (Final Fantasy VI)
Most Annoying / Earworm Music – Chocobo (Final Fantasy X-2)
Command Abilities – Mug (Many FFs)
Support Abilities – Auto Life (Many FFs)
Okay, now for the new edition! We’re going to be doing something a bit different here. My idea is to have a series of battles in brackets. There will be four brackets, with eight music pieces in each bracket, all fitting a certain category. In the first round, two pieces from each each bracket will battle each in turn, then there’ll be three more goes at that at until there are sixteen pieces left. At that point, Round 2 will begin and things will be held like a normal rumble. No underrated/overrated stuff this time, you’re voting for which ones you like, plain and simple.
Most Joyful
Main Theme – Final Fantasy IV
The Dragon Spreads Its Wings – Final Fantasy V (Going on to Round 2)
Locke – Final Fantasy VI (Eliminated in Round 1)
Descendant of the Shenobi (Yuffie’s Theme) – Final Fantasy VII
Ride On (Ragnarok Theme) – Final Fantasy VIII (Going on to Round 2)
Rikku’s Theme – Final Fantasy X
Epilogue ~ Good Ending – Final Fantasy X-2 (Eliminated in Round 1)
Nomination Spot 1
Most Relaxing
Samba de Chocobo – Final Fantasy V
A Secret, Sleeping Beneath the Deep Blue Sea – Final Fantasy VII (Eliminated in Round 1)
Ahead on Our Way – Final Fantasy VII (Going on to Round 2)
Buried in the Snow – Final Fantasy VII
Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII
Besaid Island – Final Fantasy X (Eliminated in Round 1)
To the End of the Abyss – Final Fantasy X
Frontier Village ~Dali – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)
Most Emotional
Aeris’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII
On the Other Side of the Mountain – Final Fantasy VII (Eliminated in Round 1)
Ami – Final Fantasy VIII (Eliminated in Round 1)
Melodies of Life – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)
Suteki da Ne – Final Fantasy X
1000 Words (Orchestra) – Final Fantasy X-2
Yuna’s Ballad – Final Fantasy X-2 (Going on to Round 2)
Nomination Spot 3
Most Intense
Battle with Gilgamesh – Final Fantasy V (Eliminated in Round 1)
The Fierce Battle – Final Fantasy VI
Weapon Raid – Final Fantasy VII
The Landing – Final Fantasy VIII
Retaliation – Final Fantasy VIII
Feel My Blade – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)
The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons – Final Fantasy IX
Nomination Spot 4
And our first battle is —
The Dragon Spreads Its Wings – Final Fantasy V (Oh, I love this one! It plays when you’re riding the dragon in Final Fantasy V. Very joyful and fun to listen to.)
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Epilogue ~ Good Ending – Final Fantasy X-2 (A very joyful and triumphant piece that plays when you get the Good Ending for Final Fantasy X-2. Well, I wouldn’t say that the entirety of the piece can be called joyful, but for the most part, it is. This is another one I really like, but then again, I’m a big fan of most of the pieces in this edition.)
(For this battle only, I’m putting the battle in bold to draw attention to it, since there’s a lot of info in this first post.)
Not sure you remember what a particular piece sounds like? There are MIDIs available at the main FFShrine site, but be aware that the quality of them varies greatly from piece to piece and for some games, not all songs are available. You might do better to check the game if you have it, or get an MP3, I suppose. Also, note that sometimes the names on the MIDIs don’t quite match the names I use.
Do notice that there are four nomination spots, one for each bracket. Please, please, if you have any suggestions for what should fill those spots, post it with your votes. Your nominations can be from any Final Fantasy game, including Tactics or XI. Hell, I’d even be glad to throw in Kingdom Hearts if enough people say they’d be interested in seeing it.
P.S.: If this edition is pretty popular, I might do it again sometime — there’s a lot of pieces I wanted to include but had to pass on to at least try to mix things up a bit as far as the number of pieces from each game that were included.
Note: The edition featured in this post was disrupted by a forum hack. It did eventually finish, however, the record of it was not saved.
Also i’ll nominate Eyes on Me from FFVIII for consideration in the emotional category.
Oh, and The Dragon Spreads Its Wings.
Wow, looking at those previous competitions, FFVII seems to dominate a lot. I hope in this case it does not, as music is much better in heaps of the other games. Thank you for putting Skirmish of the Silver Dragons in ๐
Also, good going Agent. This is truly a well organized rumble. ๐
maybe, I guess its different moods fall under all of the categories
Yes, you have the basic idea correct — moods it is.
To those that have nominated something already, thanks. "Eyes on Me" and the FFVI "Aria" are both great choices. "Eyes on Me" I had considered including, but "Aria" I had completely forgotten about. If people want to second (or third, etc.) those, that’ll help to determine which is included. If not, I’ll have to make the choice. And continue to nominate, folks, if you don’t nominate, then ultimately I’m the only one who has to make another choice and you’re leaving it in my hands rather than taking a chance to take control.
Also, good going Agent. This is truly a well organized rumble.
๐ Thanks, I appreciate that.
Wow, looking at those previous competitions, FFVII seems to dominate a lot. I hope in this case it does not, as music is much better in heaps of the other games.
Yeah, I noticed too that FFVII seemed to dominate a lot of those. Intriguing when you consider that it also had the choice for most overrated character. And not only that, but FFVII made a come-from-behind in the last edition to end FFVIII dominance. Well, say what you like about FFVII, but it certainly has its place in the minds and hearts of a lot of fans.
Thank you for putting Skirmish of the Silver Dragons in
NP, glad to do so.
And now, finally, the results for the first battle:
The Dragon Spreads Its Wings – 8
Epilogue ~ Good Ending – 5
Looked at first like the "Dragon" piece was going to be completely dominant there, but then the FFX-2 piece pulled in to make it kinda close. Close, but no cigar. The Dragon Spreads Its Wings from FFV goes on to Round 2.
Next up, from the Most Relaxing category:
Ahead on Our Way – Final Fantasy VII (This plays when you’re in Kalm Town. A soothing, homely sort of theme.)
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Besaid Island – Final Fantasy X (Plays when you’re on Besaid Island, but not in the village, in Final Fantasy X. I’ve always thought it one of the most relaxing pieces in Final Fantasy.)
P.S.: I promise the next battle will not include FFVII.
Also I like this Edition of the FFRumble. Gives me a chance to go back and listen to some of the best pieces of music used in the FF series.
Also, I reckon Aria would be an excellent inclusion to the competition.
And also Ive never heard of Ahead On our Way
I would also like to nominate (if i can still nominate stuff) Hunters chance and X Ending Theme, but im not sure what categories they can go under
Ahead on Our Way – 7
Besaid Island – 6
Wow, that one ended up being very close. In the end, though, that last vote clinches the victory for FFVII’s Ahead on Our Way.
Thanks to those who are continuing to nominate. For those that haven’t yet, or want to nominate more, or second what’s already been nominated, you’re still welcome to do that in your vote. Nominated pieces (at least a couple) will start being included once there’s been one battle in each category.
And now for the next of those battles, from the most emotional category:
Ami – Final Fantasy VIII (It’s one of several instrumental versions of "Eyes on Me" in Final Fantasy VIII and also bears a strong resemblance to "Balamb Garden." Definitely a very emotional, purely instrumental theme.)
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Melodies of Life – Final Fantasy IX (This theme is heard throughout the game before you finally get to hear the full vocal version, followed by the amazing Final Fantasy Prologue at the end. A song that speaks quite wonderfully to the story of the game. Some people say that they feel the Japanese version is way better than the English version, but I really like both.)
As for nominations, i guess Aria would be great in Emotional. I nominate the following for the other categories:
Joyful: Amidatti and Eleonor Too – Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles (very happy music for anyone who’s played it long enough to get to Shella)
Relaxing: Frontier Village ~Dali – Final Fantasy IX
Intense: Movin’ – Final Fantasy VIII (includes Retaliation, but the rest of the song is intense too)
I never liked Eyes on Me, so thats why I didnt choose Ami
I liked melodies of life but it felt more relaxing than emotional to me.
Sad to see any of them leave. But in this I’m going to have to go with Ami, the piano holds the emotion for me.
Ami – 3
Melodies of Life – 9
Ami had support, but Melodies of Life had three times more. Thanks for those who are continuing to nominate and nice to see Crystal Chronicles being requested. (I’ve never played it, but it’s good to see some different game music being requested.) Remember, you can continue to nominate in any section until I officially announce the choice for that section.
And now, the next battle, in the Most Intense category:
Battle with Gilgamesh – Final Fantasy V (This plays several times when you fight Gilgamesh in Final Fantasy V. Gilgamesh may be kinda comic, but he can also be a very tough boss and he has an intense theme to match.)
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Feel My Blade – Final Fantasy IX (This plays during the stage-battle towards the beginning of the game. It gives it a nice, intense feel, even though it’s only a mock battle and there’s really no danger of losing.)
Once this battle is over, we’ll have had one battle in every category and I’ll start mixing things up a bit. For now, though, have fun voting!
Therefore my vote is to Battle with Gilgamesh, which is actually called Clash on the Big Bridge on the Final Fantasy V Original Sound Version (http://www.chudahs-corner.com/soundtracks/pscn5015.html) soundtrack
Which I want very much for Christmas, but unfortunately I get the feeling I won’t be getting, (sigh). Anyway, good info.
And sorry, carry on folks, Rumble Manager selfishly inserting himself here…
Battle with Gilagamesh – 3
Feel My Blade – 6
Well, it looked like it was headed towards blowout for Feel My Blade at first, but then Battle with Gilgamesh (Clash on the Big Bridge) received a few votes. Not nearly enough, though, so it’s the FFIX piece that goes on to the second round.
We’ve now had one battle in each category, so now instead of going straight down the list, I will choose the category for a battle at my whim. And the next one will be:
Most Emotional
On the Other Side of the Mountain – Final Fantasy VII (This piece plays during the Cloud flashback scenes during the flashback to when Cloud / Tifa / Tifa’s friends climbed Mt. Nibel in search of Tifa’s Mom and then Tifa got injured.)
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Yuna’s Ballad – Final Fantasy X-2 (It’s a piano version of Yuna’s Theme. It plays during a lot of the more emotional scenes in the game, including the Perfect Ending, or just during the The End display if you didn’t get the Perfect Ending. Also during a lot of Episode Complete scenes.)
Beginning with the next battle, I will include a nomination. So if you have a nomination for any category other than this one (or want to second one that’s been mentioned) post it now, because you don’t know what category I’ll choose next.
Even if nobody else votes, could at least one person respond so that I don’t have to double-post to start a new battle?
Happy holidays, everyone!
Merry xmas to you too Agent!
merry xmas everybody
On the Other Side of the Mountain – 6
Yuna’s Ballad – 8
Solid competition. Yuna’s Ballad pulls again and takes the win on this one.
Now for our next battle, in the Most Relaxing bracket:
A Secret, Sleeping Beneath the Deep Blue Sea – Final Fantasy VII (This plays while you’re on the submarine and gives a nice, relaxing, undersea feel. It’s a bit resemblant of the submarine theme from Final Fantasy V.)
vs.
Frontier Village ~Dali – Final Fantasy IX (Plays in the town of Dali. The nominated piece for this bracket.)
Frontier Village~Dali was the only piece nominated in this section. But is it more relaxing than FFVII’s submarine theme? Cast your votes!
Frontier Village ~Dali
Frontier Village ~ Dali
Mainly because it`s against the one song in FFVII that makes my skin crawl.
A Secret, Sleeping Beneath the Deep Blue Sea – 5
Frontier Village ~Dali – 7
Very close battle! The nominated piece only just edges out FFVII’s submarine theme. And next up, in the most Joyful category:
Locke – Final Fantasy VI (It’s Locke’s Theme. Plays, of course, when you he first appears after being asked how the "looting and plundering trade" goes.)
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Ride On (Ragnarok Theme) – Final Fantasy VIII (Final Fantasy VIII’s airship theme. Plays anytime you’re flying the Ragnarok around the World Map. Can also be heard onboard the airship, but the noise of the ship sort of drowns it out.)
Locke – 0
Ride On – 9
Ride On rides past Locke into the second round.
Next up:
Weapon Raid – Final Fantasy VII (It plays during the Weapon attack sequences in Junon on Disc 2. Very intense stuff.)
vs.
The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons – Final Fantasy IX (A.K.A. The Assault of the White Dragons, etc. Plays when a huge bunch of dragons shows up when you’re busting into Memoria. Again, quite intense.)
hehe lazy
In an attempt to get things going again, I’ve decided that for right now I want us to do something fun. Maybe something a bit different, a bit wacky, so long as it’s still workable. So for right now, I’m asking anyone and everyone to throw out your wildest ideas. At this point, feel free to toss out any wild idea you might have. We’ll worry about sorting it out later.
So… have fun!
blond hair
ginger hair
black hair
brown hair
We could do all sorts from personality to family
We could have like one day for nominations of ideas and then the normal two days of voting.
It’s an interesting thought. Anyone have any other ideas, though? Come on, be creative!
Favorite hairsyle, Favorite fighting style and Who is the most annoying
I am still interested in the create-a-character thing. The problem I’m seeing is that the Rumble is generally designed as a series of one-on-one battles. It doesn’t really work as well when you mix in more choices. Any thoughts on how to get around that?
How bout doing it like this
ginger vs brunette = A
brown vs black = B
A vs B = the chosen piece.
I was thinking take current characters features. Just make a random selection of each.
for example Hair: Selphie, Quina, Vincent, Rude, Wakka, Paine etc etc and have 6 male 6 female parts. Play them off against each other
Eg
Girl vs Girl
Boy vs Boy
Then at the end we will have one "male" ff character we would like to see and one "female" ff character we would like to see. Does that help you out at all?
OSFM — I think I see what you’re saying — but just to be sure — we have could have like a series of battles regarding a particular feature, using the current characters as a palette. If we had six, we could do three two-on-two battles and then once we have those results, have a single three-way battle. (I’m fine with that.) Have I got it, basically?
Then that would allow for one female "custom" character and one "male"
And, in tune with keeping things fun and different, I’m gonna just draw up the battles as I go along and maybe not even go in sequence. (In other words, maybe skip around between different features.)
Let’s start things off with this:
Wakka’s Hair (It’s orange and curves up to a single point at the top! He also wears a blue headband!)
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Zidane Tribal’s Hair (Never mind all that spiky stuff! Zidane ditches the ideas of his immediate "hero" predecessors, letting no cloud and no squall hinder the way he wears his hair. So Zidane’s hair is sort of parted down the middle and kinda curves with the contours with the shape of his face.)
Edit:
A record of all the battles so far:
Wakka’s Hairstyle vs. Zidane’s Hairstyle – Wakka
Cloud Strife’s Hairstyle vs. Irvine Kinnea’s Hairstyle – Irvine
Barret’s Hairstyle vs. Seymour’s Hairstyle – Seymour
Quistis Trepe’s Hairstyle vs. Lulu’s Hairstyle – Lulu
Tifa’s Hairstyle vs. Selphie’s Hairstyle – Selphie
Dagger’s/Garnet’s Hairstyle (Short) vs. Yuna’s Hairstyle (FFX-2) – Dagger/Garnet
Black Mage vs. Thief – Black Mage
Blue Magic vs. Swords – Swords
Fists vs. Summoners – Summoners
White Magic vs. Guns – Guns
Lancers vs. Mimes – Mimes
Ninjas vs. Berserkers – Ninjas
Steiner’s Outfit vs. Tobli’s Outfit – Steiner
Seifer’s Outfit vs. Tidus’s Outfit – Seifer
Sephiroth’s Outfit vs. Gippal’s Oufit – Sephiroth
Freya Crescent’s Outfit vs. Yuna’s Outfit – Freya
Aeris/th Gainsborough’s Outfit vs. Rikku’s Outfit – Rikku
SeeD Uniform vs. Eiko’s Outfit – SeeD Uniform
Cid’s Cigarette vs. Auron’s Sunglasses – Sunglasses
Rinoa’s Necklace vs. – Eiko’s Hairbow – Hairbow
Locke’s Bandana vs. Squall’s Necklace – Bandana
Gau’s "Shiny Thing" vs. Vincent’s Bandana – "Shiny Thing"
Steiner’s Feather vs. Rikku’s Googles – Googles
Irvine’s Cowboy Hat vs. Gippal’s Eyepatch – Cowboy Hat
Quistis Trepe’s Facial Features vs. Lulu’s Facial Features – Lulu
Queen Brahne’s Facial Features vs. Lucil’s Facial Features – Queen Brahne
Ultimecia’s Facial Features vs. Quina Quen’s Facial Features – Quina Quen
Red XIII’s Facial Features vs. Vivi’s Facial Features – Vivi
Barret Wallace’s Facial Features vs. Jecht’s Facial Features – Jecht
Yuffie’s Facial Features vs. Zell’s Facial Features – Zell
Also Wakka Gotta love the hairband
I would have gone for Wakka if Wakka’s hair was black, that would be awesome.
Wakka
I wonder how much gel he used, or maybe wax.
More like thickened spaghetti sauce…
Wakka – 12
Zidane – 5
In the battle of the hair, Wakka won pretty easily, but Zidane had some support.
All right, let’s move on to another battle. How about we do some fighting styles?
Black Mage (Ah, a fighting style seen in many FF games and popularized perhaps even more by Vivi in FFIX and perhaps to a degree by Lulu in FFX. The black mage is generally weak at any sort of physical attacks, but has an array of magic spells at his/her disposal. Often these spells are of the elements. Highest level spells include Flare and Ultima, or in Vivi’s case, Doomsday.)
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Thief (Locke, Zidane, Rikku, etc. This fighting type may have some skill at physical attacks, but often is also pretty speedy. The thief can be a valuable asset to the party, often able to quickly build up items that would otherwise be hard to get, or perhaps couldn’t be acquired at all. Stealing isn’t always easy, though.)
you mean the all time sex muffin rikku right?
….Selphie? lol, no, there’s not really any character that fits that job.
Looks like votes really picked up here. Let’s see the results:
Black Mage – 13
Thief – 9
Voting for Thief really picked up towards the end, but it just didn’t happen. Black Mage goes on to the second round.
Next battle!
Okay, we’ve had a male hairstyle battle, so how about a female hairstyle one? Let’s do this:
Final Fantasy VII – Tifa (She’s got like little bangs sticking down [I guess you’d call it that] and it sorta curves down to a sharp point on the left.)
vs.
Final Fantasy VIII – Selphie (I’m not gonna lie — I absolutely adore this character’s hair-style. It sort of flows down and then curves around back up.)
Anyway i go for Selphie
**Off topic**
Thx for answering my question ๐
I remember when her hair looked good for being on a game. ๐
Tifa – 5
Selphie – 13
And no, I wasn’t really thinking about Advent Children.
(I was all ready to create this image myself, only to find that I’m not the only person who had this idea! Don’t Get Mad, Get Glad!)
All right, enough of that. Next up: Outfits!
Final Fantasy IX – Steiner (What fun! Steiner’s "dirty, rusty armor" was the source of many jokes throughout Final Fantasy IX and earned him his nickname "Rusty." But it was certainly memorable.)
vs.
Final Fantasy X-2 – Tobli (What a wild outfit! Tobli’s outfit is very colorful. He has a sort of red hood thing covering his head, with a pattern of yellow. THe main color of his outfit is a rich brown, with various bands of colors including red, yellow, orange and green.)
I think this’ll make for a fun battle. Cast your votes!
Steiner – 12
Tobli – 4
Tobli did have a few supporters, but it’s Steiner that goes on to the second round.
Let’s do another fighting style battle:
Blue Magic (This fighting style allowed characters to utilize magic first used by enemies. In Final Fantasy VII it was called "Enemy Skills." In some games, only certain characters could use blue magic, in others, any character could. Quistis was an example of a character that use blue magic when the rest in the game couldn’t.)
vs.
Swords (One of the most common fighting styles in Final Fantasys is, of course, with a sword. There have been lots of swordbearers and sometimes, fighting with a sword was simply a part of a job type, such as a warrior or knight.)
Sorry, no picture this time.
Blue Magic – 9
Swords – 10
Surprisingly close battle — Swords goes on to the second round. Swords may be boring and generic, but I guess at least they’re reliable.
Oh, what next, next. How about this — a battle of accessories?
Final Fantasy VII – Cid Highwind – Cigarette (Can a cigarette be called an accessory? Sure, why not?! Of course, today, Square-Enix wouldn’t dare to have one of their characters smoking a ciagrette. [In Kingdom Hearts, Cid sucks on a straw.] Cid uses his cigarette as part of his "Dynamite" limit break.)
vs.
Final Fantasy X – Auron – Sunglasses (Auron sports a pair of shades, which don’t quite completely cover his eyes.)
Auron’s sunglassess are an excellent accessory.
Cid’s Cigarette – 4
Auron’s Sunglasses – 11
Those final votes really sealed things tight for the sunglasses.
We’ve had a male clothing battle yet, but not a female one, so le’s do one now:
Final Fantasy IX – Freya Crescent (Freya’s outfit is mostly a sort of reddish orange. She wears a pointed hat and a colorful tie.)
vs.
Final Fantasy X – Yuna (Yuna’s wears summoner’s robes that include long pink-and-white sleeves, and a full length skirt that’s blue with a star pattern.)
Sorry, but there aren’t going to be anymore pictures for each-and-every battle — it’s just getting too tiresome to do. (And I know my descriptions aren’t the greatest either — but I think we all have a pretty good idea of what various characters / character traits, etc. look like.)
The tie cinched it!
Freya – 13
Yuna – 5
Yuna managed to pick up some supporters more towards the end, but Freya is definitely the winner.
Thanks for the picture links Professor Nintendo Head. I don’t really have any trouble finding the pictures, it’s just taking too much time to design pictures and then post them up here.
Well, on to the next battle. This is another male hairstyle battle. After this, there shall be one more new category (which only person other than me knows at the moment) and then that will be all of the categories for this edition, since they are still starting to build up. But now, on to our current battle:
Cloud Strife – Final Fantasy VII (Well, we have to do it, so let’s get it over with and see it goes. As I’m sure everyone knows, Cloud’s the dude with the spiky yellow hair.)
vs.
Irvine Kinneas – Final Fantasy VIII (This is sort of a twist — except during Final Fantasy VIII’s closing credits, you don’t generally get to see Irvin’es full hairstyle because Irvine opts to wear a hat. However, his hair is brown and he has a ponytail.)
Im sure Prak is going to vote for Cloud ๐
Nah, Irvine Kinneas really.
Cloud just looks like a freakin chocobo
Cloud – 5
Irvine – 12
Cloud had some support, but Irvine’s easily the winner.
Guess the spiky-haired look just doesn’t cut it these days.
And now, as promised, one final category, which was suggested to me by OSFM — overall facial features.
Let’s start first with this battle here:
Final Fantasy VIII – Quistis (She wears glasses, has blue eyes and I guess a somewhat large and roundish nose. Her hair is blondish and extends straight down on both sides past her neck.)
vs.
Final Fantasy X – Lulu (Lulu has brown eyes, dark hair that covers her eye on the right and a hair ornament.
http://www.ffshrine.org/ffx/07-lulu‘s-contempt/00006.jpg
EDIT:Really sorry OSFM. But still Lulu.
Read what the battle is. Its facial features not the Belts on Lulus Legs. It has nothing to do with this battle.
Quistis – 4
Lulu – 17
Quistis managed to pick up a few supporters, but that one was pretty much all Lulu. And OSFM does make a good point — pay attention to what you’re voting on, folks.
Our next battle is another outfit battle:
Seifer – Final Fantasy VIII (He wears a white outfit with a sort of red cross thing. His shirt also features a cross.)
vs.
Tidus – Final Fantasy X (Tidus’s outfit is rather colorful. Noteable features include the Zanarkand Abes logo on his pants (the right leg of them is shorter than the left one) and as his necklace. The outfit also features various chains and belts.)
While both outfit’s fit both of these characters peronsality perfectly, Seifer is just so more "dont give a shit."
Haha.
Agreed.
Tidus – 5
That was definitely very lopsided for Seifer — I guess Tidus’s outfit just annoyed some people.
Okay, let’s move to another facial features battle, this time featuring two male characters:
Final Fantasy VII – Red XIII/Nanaki (He has hair braids, pointed ears, and slanted eyes. As an animalish/anthropomorphic character, he definitely has some unique facial features.)
vs.
Final Fantasy IX – Vivi Ornitier (Another character that isn’t human. He doesn’t really have much of a visible face. A hat on top, two large yellow eyes and blackness.)
Also, I’d like to remind everyone that this is a facial features battle, not an overall character battle.
OK, this time I’m going for Vivi, really love his *lack of* face. It’s great.
Vivi – 9
Not a lot of people voting this time. It’s Vivi, though, that goes on to the next round, whenever that is. ๐
Well, I think now’s as good a time as any for another fighting style battle:
Fists (I believe the approach of simply using the fists for fighting may have originated with FFV’s Monk job. Fighters that used this style of fighting in later games included Tifa in Final Fantasy VII and Zell in Final Fantasy VIII)
vs.
Summoners (In some games, anyone could summon, but in other games, summoning was limited to one or two characters. Sometimes summoners also possessed black magic abilities, but in others, they were white mages.)
FFT+Monk=Pwnage
Summoners – 11
Summoners it is then — but it was really close up until the end there, when a whole bunch of votes came in for Summoners.
Okay, we’ve only had one accessory battle so far, so let’s do another one:
Rinoa Heartilly – Final Fantasy VIII – Necklace (Ah, jewelry. Rinoa, like Squall, wears a necklace. It doesn’t look like Squall’s, although she asks Zell for one like Squall’s.)
vs.
Eiko – Final Fantasy IX – Hairbow (I suppose it’s technically part of her hairstyle and could be saved for a hairstyle battle, but I’m choosing to call it an accessory anyway.)
Well, I had trouble getting this edition started from the beginning and worried from the start that the battles were gonna be kinda hard to come up with.
Anyway:
Rinoa’s Necklace – 4
Eiko’s Hairbow – 8
Well, next up, another facial features battle:
Barret Wallace – Final Fantasy VII (He has a mustache and something of a beard. Very large forehead. He also sports an earring.)
vs.
Jecht – Final Fantasy X (Jecht also a mustache and other facial hair. He has a rather large nose and some scarring. His forehead, though, is covered by a bandana.)
Well, I had trouble getting this edition started from the beginning and worried from the start that the battles were gonna be kinda hard to come up with.
I totaly understand. The rumble has been going on for quite some time now so i`d imagine it`s hard to keep it new and fresh but you do a cracking job. ๐
And the fact that Barrett is just another nigger from the streets.
Barret – 2
Jecht – 14
That was very lopsided, but not quite a blowout. Jecht moves overwhelmingly to the second round, though.
Let’s do another female clothing battle:
Aeris/th Gainsborough – Final Fantasy VII (Aeris wears a pink dress with red at the top. She also has these sort-of yellow cuff things on her arms.)
vs.
Rikku – Final Fantasy X (In Final Fantasy X, her outfit is mainly orange. The googles that she wore when with the Al Bhed now hang around her neck. she also wears gloves.)
Aeris/th – 2
Rikku – 13
Aeris/th grabbed the first vote, but only managed to muster one more after that. Rikku easily slides onto Round 2. Speaking of results, a couple of battles back, I finally put together a list of the current results. The record is on, page 6 (Thread 27567) with the first battle of this edition.
Let’s do another fighting-style battle:
White Magic (In some Final Fantasies, such as VI and VII, anyone could use white magic abilities, although sometimes some were better at it than others. At other times, white magic was only accessible through a job, or only certain characters can use it. In those cases, white mages had the power to heal the party by using a certain amount of their MP, thus minimizing the need to use healing items. However, someone specialized as a white mage didn’t generally have very much battle attacking power, unless they were also a summoner. Other useful white magic abilities included being able to erect certain protective barriers and magic that could cause party members to regenerate HP over time. Occasionally, white magic users also had access to abilities that determined the time flow of battle, such as Slow and Haste.)
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Guns (Guns were a method of fighting in Final Fantasy that I believe didn’t appear until Final Fantasy VII, when some of the more modern elements started to work their way in. Final Fantasy VII featured both Barret with his gun-arm and Vincent, who used an actual gun. Then there was Irvine in Final Fantasy VIII and a couple of different options for gun-fighting in Final Fantasy X-2. Guns attacked quickly and in games with the row setting, were effective long-range weapons. However, some may feel that it doesn’t really fit into the Final Fantasy style, overall. Some may also consider it a rather simple method of fighting.)
VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FF is losing by around 2000votes i think we can handle that…Final Fantasy Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
White Magic – 7
Guns – 7
Wow. That’s the first tie I think we’ve seen in a while. Well, in a tie situation, we go to whatever was winning before the tieing vote(s) came in. And that would be Guns in this case.
Now for another facial features battle, this time another female facial features battle:
Queen Brahne – Final Fantasy IX ("That’s right Your gonna kidnap the fat-ass, butt-ugly Queen…" — That’s what Baku has to say about Queen Brahne, and it’s true her face is one that soon won’t be forgotten. Queen Brahne wears a sort of mask surrounding her eyes. She has an ugly purple nose and a perfectly wicked smile. Sitting atop her head is a massive crown / headdress thing.)
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Lucil – Final Fantasy X/X-2 (Lucil is a pretty tough woman, but that’s not say she doesn’t have a certain aspect of beauty to her as well. I’d say her facial features convey the appropriate toughness and strength of spirit, though. She wears a blue bandana and her hair is fiery-red.)
Queen Brahne – 11
Lucil – 7
Good battle, but butt-ugly wins this one. Queen Brahne and her god-awful face are on to Round 2.
Okay, now for another accessory battle:
Locke – Bandana (Or Cele’s bandana, as she eventually gets a hold of it. I’m going to quote from the ending for Final Fantasy VI if Celes in the party but not Locke — SETZER: "Don’t fall! Remember, you promised me you’d do your Maria act again! What a woman. Your life hanging by a bandana." CELES: "This is my good luck charm. When I found this, my life took a turn for the better.")
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Squall – Necklace (The major necklace of this game. Squall’s necklace features a lion, which he calls "Griever.")
Squall’s necklace does seem to weigh heavier on the actual game it’s present in (for example, you’ll never even see Locke’s bandana on its own if you save Cid, while the name you give to Squall’s necklace determines the name of one of the game’s final Bosses).
That aside, though…Locke would not look right without a bandana. Squall without a necklace is much easier to imagine, so the Bandana for me. Maybe Rinoa should’ve been the one wearing the necklace from the beginning…
Squall’s necklace does seem to weigh heavier on the actual game it’s present in (for example, you’ll never even see Locke’s bandana on its own if you save Cid, while the name you give to Squall’s necklace determines the name of one of the game’s final Bosses).
That aside, though…Locke would not look right without a bandana. Squall without a necklace is much easier to imagine, so the Bandana for me. Maybe Rinoa should’ve been the one wearing the necklace from the beginning…
Yes lockes bandana for the reasons so excellently laid out above.
Locke’s Bandana – 12
Squall’s Necklace – 4
Definitely clear-cut there — Locke’s Bandana wins by a wide margin. So long for necklaces.
Okay, how about another fighting style battle:
Lancers (Lancer is a pretty standard fighting class. It’s fair to say that most Final Fantasies have at least one Lancer. It was a job class in Final Fantasy V. Lancers include Kain, Cid Highwind and Freya. Lancers often utilize the power of the "dragon" / "dragoon." Generally, they can jump to boost power to their attacks. They may also possess certain special skills. However, they may not be the greatest when it comes to standard melee fighting, or magic.)
vs.
Mimes (Ah! Mimes! They say people hate mimes, but in Final Fantasy, using mimicry could often be an effective way to duplicate some powerful attacks with expending MP. Gogo was a mime in Final Fantasy VI and in some other FF games, you can utilize that game’s ability system to gain this function. But many consider it to be a rather "cheap" method of combat.)
I absolutely loved Freya, and Cid Highwind was my favorite character in FFVII.
Using the jump ability can really turn a battle around.
Using the jump ability can really turn a battle around.
Lancers/Dragoons are certainly in seniority (FF III, versus the original Mime’s appearance in FF V). Game by game…
FF III: Lancers, obviously
FF IV: Kain owns you all, and besides there is no Mime to speak of.
FF V: You can swap abilities here, but Mimics have more customization potential and also inherit ability scores from the other jobs, so the Mime wins here.
FF VI: Anybody can Jump, just put on some Dragoon Boots. There is only one Gogo. Mime wins here.
FF VII: Opposite effect, anybody can strap on a Mime materia, but there’s only one Cid Highwind. Lancer wins.
FF VIII: Uhh…where the hell’d they go? LOL…tie?
FF IX: Mimes are still absent, and Freya is a great character. Lancers.
FF X: Anyone can use Copycat, but only Kimahri behaves like a Lancer (and a Blue Mage, to boot). Lancers again.
FF X-2: See FF VIII
FF XI: see FF III, there are no Mimes
6 for Lancers, 2 for Mimes. The Lancer wins in my opinion.
Lancers – 6
Mimes/Mimics – 5
That was actually way close, which was something of a surprise to me. But Lancers it is, but only by a one-vote margin.
Well, how about we do another outfits battle?
SeeD Uniform – Final Fantasy VIII (In Final Fantasy VIII, several of the characters don official CD uniforms. They’re very stylish looking and provide an interesting break from the clothes you normally see them in.)
vs.
Eiko’s Outfit – Final Fantasy IX (From the FFIX section description — "Eiko’s state of pantslessness has already been discussed. Repeatedly." So sure, Eiko’s outfit has been the butt of some jokes, but is it really all that bad? I guess we’ll find out.)
SeeD Uniform – 9
Eiko’s Outfit – 4
Eiko’s outfit is out, but it got a bit more support than I suspect most probably expected.
Next up, another accessories battle, because we need to get rolling on those:
Gau – "Shiny Thing" (Underwater Breathing Helmet) – Final Fantasy VI (When Sabin and Cyan are trying to get to Narshe, Gau announces that he has a "shiny thing" stored at Crescent Mountain that can help them out. This "shiny thing" is a helmet that lets them breathe underwater that he took from Mobliz. The game only shows one, but apparently it’s enough to let them all breathe underwater.)
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Vincent Valentine – Bandana (Vincent Valentine also has a bandana — a red one.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vincent_Valentine_art.jpg
Enya you should try ffvi
Gau’s Shiny Thing – 8
Vincent’s Bandana – 6
Closer than I thought that was gonna be there. The bandana picked up some votes towards the end there, but it just wasn’t enough to beat Gau’s nifty, shiny, underwater-breathing helmet.
I think it’s been a little while since we’ve had a hairstyle battle. How about this:
Barret Wallace’s Hairstyle (Barret opts for a mostly shaved head, but with some hair in a guess what you’d maybe call a "crop-top?" towards the top.)
vs.
Seymour’s Hairstyle (The villians really haven’t had much representation in this rumble, other than Queen Brahne, so let’s add Seymour to the mix. Seymour’s hair is blue. Most of it rests on his head, fairly short, but he has a large spike coming out of the forehead and jutting down and two framing his face.)
Check avatar
<—— thar
Maybe it should have been pitted against Barret’s beard? 8D
Seymours hair was laughable tbh.
Barret’s Hair – 5
Seymour’s Hair – 15
Very wide margin there — Barret had a few supporters, but Seymour and his wild hair go on to the next round. I just realized — I also did a battle on Barret’s facial features and he got beat there as well.
Speaking of facial features, it’s time for another battle in that category. So we have:
Yuffie’s Facial Features – Final Fantasy VII (Her eyes are sort of blue-black and I think she has a nice smile.)
vs.
Zell’s Facial Features – Final Fantasy VIII (Zell’s most noteable facial feature is, I suppose, his tattoo. He has kind of a large forehead.)
Yuffie’s Facial Features – 4
Zell’s Facial Features – 8
I believe that’s what you call a comeback. Yuffie got a lot of votes to start out, but it’s Zell and his tattoo that go on to the second round.
And we’re starting to get close that second round, but we’ve still got a little ways to go. So, next up, from our fighting-style section:
Ninjas (Not as common as some of the other fighting styles, but definitely noticeable. In the very first Final Fantasy, characters that start out as thieves later become ninjas when you get the job upgrade. Edge is a Ninja in Final Fantasy IV. Final Fantasy V had the Ninja job class. The ninja could hold a weapon in both hands, with was a useful ability to gain to combine with other classes. Then there’s Yuffie again, in Final Fantasy VII, with long-range shuriken weapons. Wikipedia comments that Shadow of Final Fantasy VI, Amarant of Final Fantasy IX and Rikku of Final Fantasy X also share elements of the Ninja job class. In Final Fantasy XI, Ninjas are apparently more magic-users.)
vs.
Berserkers (Another somewhat rarely seen job type, but it was available as a job in Final Fantasy V and as a dressphere in Final Fantasy X-2. In Final Fantasy V, Berserkers were always berserk in battle and fought with axes. In Final Fantasy X-2, the berserker dressphere claws at the enemy. The character can go into berserk, but it’s not required. This dressphere also has a lot of other useful abilities such as Evade and Counter and Howl to double HP. In other FF games, Berserk was just a general status ailment. It would send the character into out-of-control attacks, but they would generally be more powerful. Sometimes enemies could be berserked too.)
http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy5/Party/Faris%20-%20Ninja.gif
Ninjas – 9
Berserker – 0
So, there we are. Ninjas, it is, definitely.
All right, we’ll keep this moving along with another accessories battle:
Steiner’s Feather – Final Fantasy IX (Besides his dirty, rusty armor, Steiner’s outfitting, like… Yankee Doodle? includes a feather in his cap.)
vs.
Rikku’s Googles – Final Fantasy X (Rikku wears these when you first meet up with her with the rest of the Al Bhed. They come off when you meet back up with her later on though.)
I think they end up on her neck? Not TOTALLY gone, lol.
Rikku’s Googles – 12
The later votes for the feather weren’t enough to hold off all the votes for the googles.
Right! On to another outfits battle:
Sephiroth’s Outfit – Final Fantasy VII (He wears a sort of black cloak I guess you could say, and white shoulder pads. His outfit is generally black overall.)
vs.
Gippal – Final Fantasy X-2 (Gippal is geared up with an almost metallic looking outfit. The coloring features somewhat muted shades of red, gray, and yellow.)
Sephiroth’s Outfit – 7
Gippal’s Outfit – 5
A last minute surge of votes for Gippal’s outfit just wasn’t enough — and so it’s Sephiroth’s that goes on to Round 2.
Next up, in the facial features department:
Ultimecia’s Facial Features (Kurse those blasted Seeds! Ultimecia has a somewhat rounded face and facepaint. Her overall apperance can be described as well — cold evil.)
vs.
Quina Quen’s Facial Features (You really can’t see much of Quina’s face, because s/he’s wearing a large chef’s hat. However, she has reddish eyes and a white face. Her long tongue hangs out of her mouth, which is very close to her eyes.)
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Quina Quen’s Facial Features – 10
No doubt there — Quina’s facial features win by a very large margin.
We’ve got two more battles and then I’m gonna finally end the first round. First:
Dagger’s/Garnet’s Hairstyle (Short) [This is an interesting one because Dagger/Garnet actually sports two different hairstyles in the game. Her hair is first in a long braid, but in a signature moment in the game, she cuts it off. You are voting on the short hairstyle.)
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Yuna’s Hairstyle (FFX-2) [In FFX-2, Yuna is generally seen with generally short hair, but also a very long ponytail that actually extends almost down to the ground. She also has a colorful hair-braid.)
hOOOOOt 0_o
hOOOOOt 0_o
Dagger/Garnet Short – 11
Yuna FFX-2 – 6
Somewhat decent battle, but Dagger/Garnet’s short hairstyle wins by several votes.
Okay, this is going to be the last battle of the first round and it’s an accessories battle:
Irvine’s Cowboy Hat – Final Fantasy VIII (I guess a hat is sort of an accessory. It’s not like it’s part of his hair or his face.)
vs.
Gippal’s Eyepatch – Final Fantasy X-2 (Ah, Gippal again. He wears an eyepatch which makes him look somewhat "pirate’-like.)
Gippal’s Eyepatch – 4
That was pretty overwhelming for the cowboy hat, but the eyepatch did pcick up a few supporters.
Well, we’ve made it to the second round. Here’s how this is going to work. This is going to be the semi-finals, as this edition has already been going long enough and I’d like to get things wrapped up. So we’ll do semi-finals in each category and then there’ll be three left in each category. We’ll then have a final-three way battle for each to determine the final winners.
Here’s the list:
Hairstyle
Wakka (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Irvine (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Seymour (Going on to the Final)
Lulu (Going on to the Final)
Selphie (Going on the Final)
Dagger/Garnet (Short) (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Fighting Style
Black Mage (Going on to the Final)
Swords (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Summoners (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Guns (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Mimes (Going on to the Final)
Ninjas (Going on to the Final)
Outfits
Steiner (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Seifer (Going on to the Final)
Sephiroth (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Freya (Going on to the Final)
Rikku (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
SeeD Uniform (Going on to the Final)
Accessories
Auron’s Sunglasses (Going on to the Final)
Eiko’s Hairbow (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Locke’s Bandana (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Gau’s "Shiny Thing" (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Rikku’s Googles (Going on to the Final)
Irvine’s Cowboy Hat (Going on to the Final)
Facial Features
Lulu (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Queen Brahne (Going on to the Final)
Quina Quen (Going on to the Final)
Vivi (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Jecht (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Zell (Going on to the Final)
Our first battle will be from the outfits section:
Steiner’s Outfit ("…I am Captain Adelbert Steiner of Alexandria, and I humbly request your assistance to get back to the castle." "Ha-ha-ha! That’s a new one! Nice try, but I don’t date bums. You should really scrape that rust off. It’s disgusting.")
vs.
SeeD Uniform (Selphie: "HAH! Found you! Well, well!? What do you think? My SeeD uniform! … … Heeey! Lookin’ good! Alright! Let’s hit that PAAH-TAY!")
SeeD Uniform – 6
Not a lot of votes, but SeeD Uniform takes a slight edge and goes on to the final battle in its category.
Next up, we have from the fighting styles category:
Black Mage (Steiner: "Please, Master Vivi. For the sake of Princess Garnet and all of Alexandria, I humbly request your assistance!" Zidane: "Come on! You’re a black mage, for crying out loud! Show us what you’ve got! Alright, let’s get going." Vivi: "…Okay. I’ll…try my best.")
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Guns ("A gun is a man’s weapon, nothing else will do." — Merchant from FFVII who sells only one weapon — a gun for Vincent)
Black Mage was the only magic fighting class that made it to the semi-finals. Will it earn a spot in the final, or be shot down? Cast your votes!
JUST TO BE CONTRARY LOLOL
Guns – 3
Black Mage/Magic it is, easily.
Next, from our facial features category:
Lulu – Final Fantasy X (""Clueless, aren’t you? Good thing I’m here.")
vs.
Zell – Final Fantasy VIII (Quistis: "Squall! Over here! I’ll be announcing the squad assignments for the exam now. Let’s see…You’ll be with…Zell Dincht. Quite a lively fellow." Squall: "Lively? He’s just loud. Can’t I switch members?")
Remember, for this battle, you’re voting on the facial features.
Anyways, Zell.
Lulu’s Facial Features – 5
Zell’s Facial Features – 6
Zell’s facial features edge out Lulu’s by just one vote.
Now, from the accessories section:
Auron’s Sunglasses ("When Braska and Jecht died defeating Sin…I just couldn’t accept it. I came back here…tried to avenge them. But she struck me down. Somehow I made my way, crawling, down Mount Gagazet. But my strength left me just outside Bevelle. That’s where Kimahri found me.")
vs.
Gau’s "Shiny Thing" (Gau: "Gau’s treasure… …shiny, shiny!! Shiny, shiny, shiny!!!" Sabin: "Can anything be THAT shiny?" Gau: "Does Mr. Thou like shiny thing?")
Appearance vs. functionality — which will it be? Cast your votes!
Sunglasses – 10
Shiny Thing – 8
Very close battle, there, however, the sunglasses win by two votes.
Now, a battle for the hairstyles section. After this, we’ll have had a semi-final battle in every section:
Seymour (Tidus: "From the first time I laid eyes on him, I never did like Seymour… But you know, some of the things he said that day…They made a lot of sense to me.")
vs.
Dagger / Garnet (Short) (Eiko: "It’s okay, but your hair… It was so beautiful." Dagger: "Short hair doesn’t suit me?" Eiko: "Oh, no. You look great!")
Again, remember that you’re voting on hairstyles.
Daggers hair
Seymour’s Hair – 4
Dagger / Garnet’s Short Hair – 4
What do ya’ know? We have a tie. When we have a tie in a later round, we look back to results the previous round(s) in order to determine the tie-breaker. So let’s take a look…
Seymour’s Hair – 15/20 = 75%
Dagger / Garnet Short – 11/17 = 64.7%
Seymour’s Hair wins the tie-breaker and is on to the finals.
Okay, let’s go on to another fighting style battle:
Summoners (Tidus: [nararating] "Man, was I surprised. And here I was, thinking summoners were all old geezers.")
vs.
Ninjas ("He owes allegiance to no one, and will do anything for money. He comes and goes like the wind…" Edgar: "That’s Shadow! He’d slit his mama’s throat for a nickel!")
Ninjas
I think i`ll go for Summoners
Ninjas
Summoners – 2
Ninjas – 9
A couple of late votes there for summoners couldn’t stem the tide of votes for the big favorite here — Ninjas. They go on to the final and we go on to another battle.
Okay, next up, another outfits battle:
Sephiroth’s Outfit (Cloud: "Did you see him? Did you see Sephiroth?")
vs.
Freya’s Outfit (Zidane: "…Oh yeah! You used to live next door to me. How’s it going…Ratchel? Man, you’ve really gotten…big." Woman at the Counter: "You nasty little-" Zidane: "Come on. I’m just kiddin’. You know I never forget a pretty girl’s name. So how’ve you been, Freya?")
Remember, you are voting based only on what you think of the character’s outfit.
"did you see him…"
Sephiroths outfit, i like to be contrary and i don’t know who Freya is!
Sephiroth’s Outfit
Down with lame designs in inferior games!
Apart from the overall game, the character designs and costumes in FFIX are much more interesting and rich than in FFVII.
Freya
Sephiroth’s Outfit – 2
Freya’s Outfit – 11
Big win for Freya’s clothing, which goes on to the final in that section.
Next up, from our accessories category:
Locke’s Bandana – Final Fantasy VI ("This is my good luck charm. When I found this, my life took a turn for the better.")
vs.
Irvine’s Cowboy Hat (Irvine: "Thanks for the support, but I never miss my target.")
Locke’s Bandana – 5
Irvine’s Cowboy Hat – 7
Quite close there. The cowboy hat takes the edge by a couple votes.
Here we go with another hairstyle battle:
Wakka’s Hairstyle – Final Fantasy X/X-2 ("You, too! Bow your head!")
vs.
Selphie’s Hairstyle – Final Fantasy VIII ("Heeey! The control panel!? Now we’re talkin’.")
x2
Also, Calf`s lick ;(
Wakka’s Hairstyle – 4
Selphie’s Hairstyle – 8
Selphie wins by around twice as many votes and is on to the final for hairstyle.
On to another facial features battle, featuring two characters from FFIX:
Quina Quen’s Facial Features (Eiko: "Pale… White hair… Strange clothes… Zidane told me about you! You’re Kuja!" Quina: "Zidane look for man named Kuja. I called Quina.")
vs.
Vivi Ornitier’s Facial Features (Burmecian Kid Jack: "Pointy-headed demon!" Burmecian Refugee Learie: "D-Don’t come any closer!")
So yeah, Vivi`s facial features.
So yeah, Vivi`s facial features.
Quina – 7
Vivi – 6
So Quina’s Facial Features edge out Vivi’s by just one vote. We’re on the home-stretch now — we’ve had two battles from each category in the semi-finals.
Now, the final battle from the Outfits category:
Seifer’s Outfit (Seifer: "Listen up! Teamwork means staying out of my way. It’s a Squad B rule. Don’t you forget it!")
vs.
Rikku’s Outfit (Rikku: "I thought I was done for, back there." Tidus: "Rikku! You’re Rikku! Hey! You’re okay! How you been?" Rikku: "Terrible!" Tidus: "Yeah, you don’t look so good. What happened?" Rikku: "You beat me up, remember?")
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Seifers outfit
Seifer’s Outfit – 6
Rikku’s Outfit – 5
Seifer’s Outfit edges out Rikku’s by just one vote (funny, I had the impression Rikku was wining) and moves on to the final, which is edging ever closer. But we’re not quite there yet. Next up on our plate, from our facial features cateogry:
Queen Brahne’s Facial Features (Kuja: "Ahh… The suspense is terrible! So they’ve come this far, have they? Perfect. I’ll warm up on them until the elephant-lady shows up.")
vs.
Jecht’s Facial Features (Yuna: "Before that… Call Sir Jecht. Give it a try. Don’t worry. He won’t come." Tidus: (narrating) "Trying not to think about my old man made me think about him, of course.")
Hey you! Stop shitting up the rumble please! Cheers.
Haha.
Hahahahahahha.
Back on topic,
I will go with Queen Brahne.
Knock on wood, in other words?
Rigggght, yeah, anyways:
Queen Brahne – 10
Jecht – 1
So the butt-ugly Queen Brahne makes it into the finals.
Now for our final Fighting Style semi-final:
Swords (Zidane: "I remember a guy with spiky hair who carried something like this.")
vs.
Mimes (Gogo: "My name is Gogo! The famous Mimic! Since the secret to being a Mimic is mimicing… I’m going to do whatever you do! If you fight, I’ll fight… If you use magic, I will too. If you do what I do, you can surely win!")
I’m surprised Mimes has made it this far? Any chance it could make it to the final? Cast your votes!
i mean seriously they came just mimic the sword if needed so like they are both and 2 > 1 but not 3
Agreed. Swords are boring. Just ole hack and slash.
I just noticed. The Perfect Prak made a spelling mistake MWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Just cuz I love the refference in FFIX
Swords – 6
Mimes – 8
So Mimes wins this one and goes on to the final in that category.
So Mimes wins this one and goes on to the final in that category.
We have just two battles left before the start of the Finals. First up from our Hairstyles section:
Irvine’s Hairstyle (Irvine: "Call me Irvine. I’m a pretty lucky guy. Hand in hand with two beautiful girls!" Selphie: "Irvy Kinnepooo! I’ll make you happy!" Squall: (Did I say something terrible? Women… I don’t understand women.))
vs.
Lulu’s Hairstyle (Wakka: "The guardians in there now… One of them’s got a short fuse, and who knows what the other is thinking.")
So Mimes wins this one and goes on to the final in that category.
haha
Lulu’s hairstyle
Lulu’s Hairstyle
Irvine is a tool…. and he has a pony tail.
Irvine Kinneas’s Hairstyle – 2
Lulu’s Hairstyle – 11
Lulu it is then. And it’s now time for our last semi-final battle:
Eiko’s Hairbow ("W-Wait!!! Don’t leave me here!!! Sigh… Stuck on a branch… Betrayed by my own trusted moogle… Is this how I meet my end?")
vs.
Rikku’s Googles (Auron: "Show me your face. Look at me." Rikku: "Oh, okay." Auron: "Open your eyes.")
Cute. Enough said.
Eiko’s Hairbow – 6
Rikku’s Googles – 11
So the goggles win by several votes and make it into our final. But will they have enough momentum for a win?
Well, here it is then. The final entrants for each of the categories:
Hairstyle
Seymour
Lulu
Selphie
Fighting Style
Black Mage (Winner!)
Mimes
Ninjas
Outfits
Seifer
Freya (Winner)
SeeD Uniform
Accessories
Auron’s Sunglasses (Winner!)
Rikku’s Googles
Irvine’s Cowboy Hat
Facial Features
Queen Brahne
Quina Quen (Winner!)
Zell
Let’s start with facial features directly:
Queen Brahne (Tall Guard: "The girl supposedly looks exactly like Princess Garnet, the most beautiful princess ever to grace Alexandria Castle." Short Guard: "I got it now." Tall Guard: "But you know how Queen Brahne looks. It’s hard to believe she’d have such a beautiful daughter.")
vs.
Quina Quen (Quina : "Zidane, what matter? You no seem yourself." Zidane: "Hmm? Oh, it’s nothing. I’m always myself. Besides, it’s not just me. You look just like your master, too." Quina : "Of course! Master Quale is Qu Clan! We same!" Zidane: "Yeah? I guess everybody looks the same to someone from another race.")
vs.
Zell (Rinoa: "Um, didn’t you say that Ward was working in some sort of prison?" Zell: "Yeah, so." Rinoa: "And wasn’t he from Galbadia?" Zell: "Sure, he’s a soldier there." Rinoa: "Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t you supposed to be Ward in that ‘dream world’?")
Remember, you are voting for one choice for facial features that will be the winner for this category. Only one choice, please.
Love the tattoo
Takes balls to get a tattoo on your face. I like that.
Are we talking character themes?
Anyways, results:
Queen Brahne – 2
Quina Quen – 8
Zell Dincht – 4
Quina Quen
is our big winner here.
Okay, next up, we are doing outfits, so make your choice between:
Seifer (Squall: (Huh…? Why’d he get all quiet? Oh, he must be concentrating. Loneliness of the sharpshooter… I guess he has a point. Can’t hear anything from in here. …What’s going on with the parade, I wonder? Seifer… So he’s alive.) "Rinoa. Seifer’s alive. He was in the parade with the sorceress." Rinoa: "…What does it mean?" Squall: "Who knows." (If I were to face the sorceress directly…Would I have to go through Seifer? …That’s the way it goes as a SeeD. You can’t choose your enemies…) "I may end up killing Seifer.")
vs.
Freya (Freya: "Ah, the ceremony from the time when Burmecia and Cleyra were one. I understand. Zidane, I met with utter failure when trying to defend Burmecia… And I will not allow Brahne to exert her will upon us any longer!" Zidane: "You’ve changed, Freya. I didn’t think you were so strong when I first met you." Freya: "I could not bring peace to Burmecia and thus fulfill Sir Fratley’s wish. But now, all I can do is protect this beautiful place.")
vs.
SeeD Uniform (Quistis: "Go get changed and meet me in front of the [training center]. This will be my last order." Squall: (Get changed and meet at the training center? What’s this all about…?))
Which outfit shall take its place in sartorial Final Fantasy splendor? Cast your votes!
Agent im talking about ff soundtracks
I just like his white coat.
Still not sure I entirely follow. Are we talking entire albums? For example — Final Fantasy V soundtrack vs. Final Fantasy VIII soundtrack:
Okay, we are done with this one. Let’s get the results:
Seifer Almasy – 4
Freya Crescent – 6
SeeD Uniform – 4
Our winner, by just two votes over each of the others:
Freya Crescent
Okay, now it’s on to Fighting Styles:
Black Mage (Vivi: "And you made everyone…the black mages…into instruments of war!?" Kuja: "Oh, dear… The princess has such a bloodthirsty little puppet. I don’t have the power to do such a thing. I just gave them a little recipe. Begin with broth of Mist, and fermented souls, and boil… Then, pour genuine black magic into a mixing bowl and heat to–" Zidane: "Stop it!" Kuja: "I’m not done telling how to make soulless toys out of the dregs of souls!")
vs.
Mimes (Gogo "I am Gogo, master of simulacrum… My miming skills will astonish you. Yes…I have been idle for too long. If I deem you worthy, I’ll mime your actions in battle. But first tell me what you’re doing here.")
vs.
Ninjas (Shadow "Down with the Empire. Once I outlived my usefulness, they tried to off me!" "We thought you were a goner!")
(cause i have bad taste!!)
Black Mage – 7
Mime – 2
Ninja – 5
Rather close battle there, we have a winner by just two votes:
Black Mage
Now, the accessories final:
Auron’s Sunglasses (Tidus: "Auron! What are you doing here?" Auron: "I was waiting for you.")
vs.
Rikku’s Googles (Yuna: "Thank you, Rikku. Thank you for everything." Rikku: "Don’t say that, Yunie! It’s not over yet!" Yuna: "Tell Cid thank you." Rikku: "No… You can tell him yourself." Yuna: "Please….: Rikku: "Yunie, don’t say that because…we’re gonna see each other again, okay?")
vs.
Irvine’s Cowboy Hat (Irvine: "My bullet… The sorceress… I’ll go down in history. I’d change the history of Galbadia… Of the world! It’s all too much…" Squall: "Enough! Just shoot!" Irvine: "I can’t, dammit!" Squall: "Irvine, calm down. Everyone’s waiting on you. I don’t care if you miss. Whatever happens, just leave the rest to us. Just think of it as a signal. A sign for us to make our move." Irvine: "Just a signal…" Squall: (That’s it.) "Please.")
Haha.
Auron’s Sunglasses.
It just looks cool, though aurons glasses are sa close second, (and rikku just looks stupid with those goggles on)
Oh and Agent I think you made a mistake in your post a couple pages back where you were posting who was winning and who had been eliminated. In the facial features section you said Queen Brahne was the winner when it was Quina, wasn’t it? :S
He’s my least favourite of the three characters but has the most original accessory among them.
Rikku’s Sunglasses
I’m afraid I can’t count either of these votes, as I have no way of knowing whether you really meant to vote for Rikku’s Googles or Auron’s Sunglasses.
Oh and Agent I think you made a mistake in your post a couple pages back where you were posting who was winning and who had been eliminated. In the facial features section you said Queen Brahne was the winner when it was Quina, wasn’t it? :S
Fixed, thank you!
Okay, now the results:
Auron’s Sunglasses – 13
Rikku’s Goggles – 0
Irvine’s Cowboy Hat – 5
I know this category wasn’t popular with some, but that was certainly a decent voting rate, so thanks.
Our winner for that one:
Auron’s Sunglasses
Well, here we are. We’ve reached the final battle of this "Create-a-Character" Edition. Our final category is the one we started out with back in the very first battle, Hairstyles:
Seymour’s Hairstyle ("You would play at marriage just for a chance to send me? Your resolve is admirable. All the more fitting to be my lovely wife.")
vs.
Lulu’s Hairstyle (Tidus: "No, no! Maybe you finally believe I don’t know anything about Spira. And maybe that means you believe me about Zanarkand, too?" Lulu: "Well… There are many things I do not know. Your Zanarkand is one of those things. I suppose I can’t say what I think either way. Still, be careful. You shouldn’t tell other people.")
vs.
Selphie Tilmitt’s Hairstyle (Girl: "Are you…Squad B? Wait a minute…You’re the guy who showed me around, right!? Thanks! I don’t so lost anymore. Oh yeah, I haven’t told you my name yet. I’m…a messenger. Name’s Selphie, from Squad A. The squad captain’s Seifer, right? Where is he?")
Remember, you are voting on hairstyles!
Mad gothic dreads.
Seymour’s Hairstyle – 3
Lulu’s Hairstyle – 4
Selphie’s Hairstyle – 4
Not a lot of votes there, but this is the only time we’ve had a tie for the final in this edition. Well, let’s look at the past results and determine our tiebreaker…
Lulu’s Hairstyle – 17/21, 11/13 = 81%, 85% = 83%
Selphie’s Hairstyle – 13/18, 8/12 = 72% , 66% = 69%
So our winner for Hairstyles is
Lulu
Well, that’s the end of our "Create-a-Character Edition." Based on the results, you guys would like to see a character with a hairstyle like Lulu’s, facial features like Quina Quen’s, wearing Freya’s outfit and Auron’s sunglasses and fighting like a Black Mage. ๐
If anyone wants, you’re welcome to post suggestions for the next edition. Actually though, I already have something in mind and will probably be starting it up around two days from now if nobody else comes up with an idea I like better.
Has that been done before?
irvine.rocky — summons was already back at the now defunct Champions Rumble. (And there is a list of all editions [except those lost to the forum hack) done in this rumble back on the first post in this thread.)
And Xander — ๐ thanks.
No, im talking about taking som themes (for example from ff ix the loss on me, battlew theme, feel my blade etc) from every ff and then do a roumble ๐
Also, how about we vote for key scenes?.
Best Final Fantasy Scene – Zidane’s Big Reveal (Final Fantasy IX)
I am sure no one is going to be complaining.
Most Exciting / Fun
What? – Final Fantasy V (Eliminated in Round 1)
<font color="red">Blackjack – Final Fantasy VI</font> (Blown out of Round 1)
Cait Sith’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII (Eliminated in Round 1)
Mods de Chocobo – Final Fantasy VIII (Eliminated in Round 1)
Blitz-Off – Final Fantasy X (Going on to Round 2)
Yuna’s Theme – Final Fantasy X-2 (Going on to Round 2)
Don’t Be Afraid – Final Fantasy VIII (Going on to Round 2)
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)
Best Boss / Special Battle Theme
Still More Fighting – Final Fantasy VII (Going on to Round 2)
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII (Going on to Round 2)
The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)
<font color="red">Challenge – Final Fantasy X</font> (Blown Out of Round 1)
Summoned Beast Battle – Final Fantasy X (Eliminated in Round 1)
Waltz of the Dolls – Final Fantasy IV (Eliminated in Round 1)
Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)
The Fierce Battle – Final Fantasy VI (Eliminated in Round 1)
Best World Map Theme
Unknown Lands – Final Fantasy V (Going on to Round 2)
<font color=red>The Land Unknown – Final Fantasy V</font> (Blown out of Round 1)
Main Theme – Final Fantasy VII (Eliminated in Round 1)
The Great Northern Cave – Final Fantasy VII (Eliminated in Round 1)
Crossing Those Hills – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)
The Evil Mist’s Rebirth – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)
Ahead on Our Way – Final Fantasy V (Eliminated in Round 1)
Blue Fields (Orchestrated Version) – Final Fantasy VIII (Going on to Round 2)
Most Unusual / Unique
Critter! Tripper! Fritter! – Final Fantasy V (Eliminated in Round 1)
The Forested Temple – Final Fantasy VII (Going on to Round 2)
Silence and Motion – Final Fantasy VIII (Eliminated in Round 1)
Slew of Love Letters – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)
Otherworld – Final Fantasy X (Going on to Round 2)
<font color=red>KUON The Troupe Performs – Final Fantasy X-2</font> (Blown out of Round 1)
Waltz for the Moon – Final Fantasy VIII (Going on to Round 2)
Hymn of the Fayth – Final Fantasy X (Eliminated in Round 1)
All right, here is our first battle. It’s from the Most Unusual / Unique category:
Silence and Motion – Final Fantasy VIII (No doubt, this funky beat for the massive, high-technology, xenophobic metropolis of Esthar was truly unique and unusual. I know some people loved it, but some hated it. And since it played pretty much all the time you were in Esthar, there was certainly ample chance for the feeling to grow either way.)
vs.
Otherworld – Final Fantasy X (Played during the opening blitzball FMV in Final Fantasy X. "Go now if you want it / The otherworld awaits you / Don’t you give up on it / The otherworld it hates you." A hard rock lyrical theme in a Final Fantasy game was quite unusual. This song was later used also for the battle with Jecht / Braska’s Final Aeon.)
I’ve allowed two nomination spots for each section. Please put any nominations you have along with your vote. If there aren’t any nominations for a particular category, then I will eventually simply make the choice myself.
P.S.: Do remember that you can find MIDIs for most of the music at the main FFShrine site. Also keep in mind though that obviously you won’t hear lyrics on any performed songs and sometimes the MIDIs may vary greatly from what you actually hear in the game.
I have a nomination for the Boss Battle themes.
Waltz of the Dolls- Final Fantasy IV.
Not sure exactly what it would be categorized as, but I remember it during some important boss fights.
For most unusual/unique.
How about final Fantasy IX – Song of Memory
Otherworld by the way ๐
Can’t really think of any themes off-hand Agent, sorry. ๐
But this whole thing is a great idea, gj~
I think it would be a good idea to add the trance Kuja battle theme from FFIX to Best Boss / Speacial Battle Theme section.
Also, for nominations:
Most exciting / fun:
Vamo’ alla Flamenco and Hunter’s Chance – IX
Don’t Be Afraid – VIII
Unusual / Unique:
Hymn of the Fayth -X
Can’t really think of any themes off-hand Agent, sorry. ๐
But this whole thing is a great idea, gj~
If anyone wants to second it?
I’ll post some suggestions as soon as i get on my other PC
Anymore votes anyone, before I wrap up this battle later this evening?
Silence and Motion – 5
Otherworld – 6
Otherworld wins by just one vote.
So next up, from our World Map themes category:
Unknown Lands – Final Fantasy V (A personal favorite, I won’t lie. This one plays in Galuf’s world in Final Fantasy V.)
vs.
The Great Northern Cave – Final Fantasy VII (This theme is played on the World Map on Disc 2 and 3 of FFVIII, with the exception of when you decide to head back to Midgar, when Cid’s Theme temporarily takes over as the World Map theme. This is one of those non-cheery World Map themes that sort of takes over during the dark times. This theme actually first plays in the Northern Cave on Disc 2.)
Agent0042: The MIDI on FFShrine’s site for Unknown Lands is incorrect — it plays the World Map theme that plays for the merged world in FFV. If you need to hear Unknown Lands, I recommend this here — http://www.midishrine.com/dritidet/sns/Final_Fantasy_5/FF5_38_Unknown_Lands.mid — it’s a reasonably decent match.
P.S.: Noms are still open and anyone is welcome to second any that have been posted already.
Anymore votes anyone, before I wrap up this battle later this evening?
You are right it can fit in special battle:)
Unknown Lands by far. The Great Northern Cave is :/
Xander, Aerith’s theme was not unique. It was derived from Aria di Mezzo Carattere.
Unknown Lands – 9
The Great Northern Cave – 6
So Unknown Lands wins by a few votes and is on to the second round.
Next up, from the Best Boss/Special Battle category:
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII (This one plays when you fight as Laguna, Ward and Kiros in Final Fantasy VIII.)
vs.
Challenge – Final Fantasy X (This is a special battle theme that first plays when you fight the Sinspawn Gui, a multi-part monster.)
Challenge – 0
Battle ended by 10-0 blowout status, moving on to next battle in the most Exciting/Fun category:
Mods de Chocobo – Final Fantasy VIII (This is Final Fantasy VIII’s theme that plays when you ride a chocobo. Ooh ooh ooh, ooh ooh ooh ooh, la da da da, da da da da, ooh ooh ooh…)
vs.
Yuna’s Theme – Final Fantasy X-2 (This is Yuna’s Theme in FFX-2. Very upbeat and peppy compared to the FFX Yuna Theme. She performs this on "la" on the Deck of the Celsius in Chapter 2.)
Nominations are still open and will be for a while.
haha, good reason to aswell!!!
Mods de Chocobo – 6
Yuna’s Theme – 8
Man with the Machine Gun – 1?
So Yuna’s Theme from Final Fantasy X-2 wins by two votes and is on to the second round. Next up, we move back to our World Map theme battle.
The Land Unknown – Final Fantasy V (This is the world map theme that plays in the merged world in FFV.)
vs.
Crossing Those Hills – Final Fantasy IX (A version of "Melodies of Life." Plays on the world map on FFIX up until Disc 4.)
Dammit Agent – if i had read this part earlier, i wouldnt have had to guess the answer to one of the FFIX Millionaire questions!!
Curse You!!
Anyway, 8-0 blowout status in effect, battle ended:
The Land Unknown – 0
Crossing Those Hills – 8
Next up, from Most Unusual / Unique:
The Forested Temple – Final Fantasy VII (Plays in the Temple of the Ancients.)
vs.
KUON The Troupe Performs – Final Fantasy X-2 (This is a special version of one of the main game themes, KUON Memories Waves and Light. The musicians perform this in Guadosalam if you get Episode Complete.)
Well, anything from FFVII gets my vote over FX-2 anyday so
The Forested Teple
Is it still ok to nominate?
If so then i think ill nominate the FFVIII song that plays during the dance FMV with squall and Rinoa – forgive me if its already up, but i dont what its called – Waltz of the moon?!? or something? Does anybody else know?
Anyways, you guys are just whipping right through these. Well, you vote, you decide:
The Forested Temple – 8
KUON The Troupe Performs – 0
(Sorry, Prak, you weren’t in time to prevent an FFVII blowout on that one. ๐ )
And on we go again:
The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons – Final Fantasy IX (This plays during the attack of the silver/white dragons in FFIX. Actually, I don’t think it even plays while you’re battling the dragon itself, but ah well. It’s still a conflict.)
vs.
Summoned Beast Battle – Final Fantasy X (This plays during the possessed aeon battle at the end of FFX. I personally found this a very memorable tune.)
Anyways Summoned beat Battle as I actually remember that one.
I actually don’t vote in music rumbles too often since I don’t memorize music particularly well while I play games and can’t be bothered to download it.
sorry agent – i nominate waltz for the moon for the most exiting / fun category
KUON got eliminated ๐
The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons – 6
Summoned Beast Battle – 4
Actually kinda close there, but the Silver Dragons piece wins by a couple votes.
We’re just about the point where I’m going to start using nominations. But first, this battle from the most Exciting / Fun category:
Cait Sith’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII (Cait Sith’s theme plays in the Gold Saucer when you first meet hmi. I don’t doubt some consider a nice break from the continuous theme that normally plays in the Gold Saucer.)
vs.
Blitz Off – Final Fantasy X (This energetic theme plays during any blitzball game.)
Blitzoff
Blitzoff
Blitz Off – 11
Blitz Off wins that one handily. Cait Sith’s Theme had a few supporters, but it just wasn’t nearly enough. We move on to another battle in the Most Unusual / Unique Category:
Critter! Tripper! Fritter! – Final Fantasy V (This one is certainly unusual, although I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s unique. This plays during the "battle" with Gogo. But variations on this theme are also heard in later FFs.)
vs.
Slew of Love Letters – Final Fantasy IX (This fun little theme plays during the love letters scene on Disc 3. A comedy of errors, this theme starts up when things start getting amusing.)
After this, nominated battles will begin. Last chance to get in any nominations.
Critter! Tripper! Fritter! – 1
Slew of Love Letters – 11
The Slew of Love Letters wins handily. Critter! Tripper! Fritter! may not have been blown out, but it never really stood a shot.
Nominations are now closed. Nomination battles are now beginning. If you don’t like the choices, you can’t complain if you didn’t nominate. Let’s get started.
First up:
Still More Fighting – Final Fantasy VII (This is the boss battle theme for FFVII.)
vs.
Waltz of the Dolls – Final Fantasy IV (Plays when you fight the Calbrena dolls.)
x2
Still More Fighting – 10
Waltz of the Dolls – 2
Couple of supporters there on the Waltz, but FFVII’s boss battle theme goes into the second round. Next up, from the World Map’s category:
The Evil Mist’s Rebirth – Final Fantasy IX (This forbidding theme plays both when traveling on the Invincible and moving about on the World Map on Disc 4 of this game.)
vs.
Ahead on Our Way – Final Fantasy V (Choice I nominated myself, as there were no nominations in the World Map category. Plays on the world map for the first portion of Final Fantasy V. This cheerful, upbeat theme definitely isn’t anything like The Evil Mist’s Rebirth.)
Ahead on Our Way – 2
Around on Our Way picks up a couple supporters, but it’s no match for the evil mist. Next up, from our most exciting / fun category:
Blackjack – Final Fantasy VI (The Blackjack is Setzer’s ship and this is its theme.)
vs.
Hunter’s Choice – Final Fantasy IX (I’m pretty sure this plays during the Festival of the Hunt sequence in Lindblum.)
Isn’t it Hunter’s Chance? Either way, that’s my vote.
Blackjack – <font color="red">0</font>
Hunter’s Chance – 9
Thanks for the correction on the naming. Okay, well we have one battle left in each section for the first round. Let’s get right on with it with a battle from our World Map themes category:
Main Theme – Final Fantasy VII (The expansive main theme of Final Fantasy VII. Plays on the World Map up until after the Northern Cave events on Disc 2. Given the amount of time spent in Midgar in FFVII before getting to the World Map, most players don’t get to hear this theme until several hours into the game. I believe it’s also available as an orchestrated version on one of the special FFVII soundtracks.)
vs.
Blue Fields (Orchestrated Version) – Final Fantasy VIII (No doubt, the Blue Fields world map theme of FFVIII is generally not well liked. However, the orchestrated version really seems to turn it around, at least for me. Does it stand a shot here?)
FFVII’s Main Theme – 4
Blue Fields (Orchestrated Version) – 5
A comeback! Blue Fields (Orchestrated Version) looked like it was gonna lose that one, but then it pulled ahead!
Now, from our Most Unusual / Unique category:
Waltz for the Moon – Final Fantasy VIII (This places during the SeeD waltz / dance scene with Squall and Rinoa. It’s later heard in the ending, except it keeps stopping and going all funny, because of the time fragmentation thing.)
vs.
Hymn of the Fayth – Final Fantasy X (The Hymn of the Fayth is an important part of the Yevon religion. It was actually created by the Al Bhed, but then co-opted by Yevon. Also known as the "Song of Prayer," this is heard in several forms in the game. It has a calming effect on Jecht within Sin.)
I made my own lyrics.
Do-Re-Ha-Ha.
Me-hand-shoe-knee.
Do-Re-Ha-Ha.
The Hymn of the Fayth was terrible imo. What a load of boring cogger goo. ๐
The Hymn of the Fayth was terrible imo. What a load of boring cogger goo. ๐
It’s tied to a better memory I guess, and because I know that dance; it’d be awesome if I had a partner to do it with ;_;;
The hymn just doesn’t cut the quiznos.
Hymn of the Fayth felt more true to it’s genre. Waltz for the Moon did fit as a dance piece but something about it didn’t feel authentic.
Waltz for the Moon – 10
Hymn of the Fayth – 4
That wasn’t as close as I thought it would be. The Hymn picks up a few supporters, but it’s the Waltz that goes into the second round.
Two more battles left in the first round for this one. From our Best Boss / Special Battle Theme category:
Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX (Also sometimes listed as "The Sword of Doubt." This ominous theme plays when fight [and get whipped soundly] by General Beatrix, before she joins your side.)
vs.
The Fierce Battle – Final Fantasy VI (This plays when you fight Atma Weapon at the end of the World of Balance. This also plays for the statue battles in Kefka’s Tower.)
Mystery Sword
It’s almost like fighting Sephiroth to One-Winged Angel.
… i dont agree…i just felt like clicking this quote button
Mystery Sword – 7
The Fierce Battle – 3
Mystery Sword wins pretty easily, but The Fierce Battle picked up three votes. Well, we’re really close the end of the first round now. In fact, we are now at the final battle of the first round. From the Most Exciting / Fun category, here it is:
What? – Final Fantasy V (This a sort of comic theme. It played once when Galuf was trapped in an area and the other characters were about to leave him behind. It also played when Butz first encountered the black chocobo.)
vs.
Don’t Be Afraid – Final Fantasy VIII (This was a nominated piece. This is this game’s normal battle theme.)
Nice.
^___^ Don’t Be Afraid
Cause voting for battle themes is boring. So boring, in fact, that I’ve appeared again to vote against one!
What? – 4
Don’t be Afraid – 10
Nominated piece Don’t be Afraid won easily, but What? picked up a few supporters who couldn’t let it go down easy.
Well, we’ve reached the second round. Here are our remaining contenders:
Most Exciting / Fun
Blitz-Off – Final Fantasy X (Eliminated in Round 2)
Yuna’s Theme – Final Fantasy X-2 (Eliminated in Round 2)
Don’t Be Afraid – Final Fantasy VIII (Going on to the Quarter Finals)
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to the Quarter Finals)
Best Boss / Special Battle Theme
Still More Fighting – Final Fantasy VII (Eliminated in Round 2)
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII (Going on to the Quarter Finals)
The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons – Final Fantasy IX (Eliminated in Round 2)
Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to the Quarter Finals)
Best World Map Theme
Unknown Lands – Final Fantasy V (Eliminated in Round 2)
Crossing Those Hills – Final Fantasy IX (Eliminated in Round 2)
The Evil Mist’s Rebirth – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to the Quarter Finals)
Blue Fields (Orchestrated Version) – Final Fantasy VIII (Going on to the Quarter Finals)
Most Unusual / Unique
The Forested Temple – Final Fantasy VII (Eliminated in Round 2)
Slew of Love Letters – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to the Quarter Finals)
<font color="red">Otherworld – Final Fantasy X</font> (Blown out of Round 2)
Waltz for the Moon – Final Fantasy VIII (Going on to the Quarter Finals)
After this round, the categories drop away. But for now, we still have them. First battle in this round is from our Most Unusual / Unique category. And here it is:
The Forested Temple – Final Fantasy VII (Cait Sith: "That’ll cost ya. Exactly one date! Here I go! This isn’t good. I can’t say it. Poor Tifa." Aerith: "No! Tell me! I promise I won’t get mad!" Cait Sith: "Is that so? Then I’ll tell you. Looks good. You are perfect for each other! Aeris’s star and Cloud’s star! They show a great future! Cloud, I’ll be your matchmaker, preacher… I’ll do whatever you want me to! You just call me when it all happens! Thank you for believing in me, know that I was a spy. This is the final, final farewell!")
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Slew of Love Letters – Final Fantasy IX (Letter: "When the night sky wears the moon as its pendant, I shall await you at the dock." Steiner: "M-M-My goodness! Th-This is a love letter! Who wrote it to whom!? Hmm… No address or addressee… Did someone drop it here, knowing that I would pass by? Who could it have been…?")
Cause Bryan asked me to.
Oh — do you guys think we should maybe start including XII in this rumble? I’m thinking stuff from that would probably still be too much of a spoiler for a lot of people at this point.
P.S.: Please include nominations only when posting a vote. Thanks.
Slew of Love Letters – 5
The Forested Temple – 2
Not a lot of votes this time around, but Slew of Love Letters is the clear winner.
Next up, from the World Map Themes category:
Unknown Lands – Final Fantasy V (Butz: "Let’s go, then!!" Lenna: "I guess it’s goodbye to this world." Faris: "Men, stay well!" Butz: "Boko. I’ll be going now!" (all teleport) Butz: "This is." Lenna: "Galuf’s world?")
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Blue Fields (Orchestrated Version) – Final Fantasy VIII (Quistis: "I have a few things to explain before we head off. GF gives us strength. The stronger the GF, the stronger we become.")
BTW, I’ve started a new thing where you no longer have to hunt for the first post of the round to find the list of entrants. Instead, just navigate to the first post in the thread and you’ll find the up-to-date list there. It does mean that I’ll have to update the list in two places, but I don’t mind.
Oh, and again, nominations are now open for the next edition, Quotes. Please post all nominations with your vote on the current battle, or PM nominations.
Anyway, Blue Fields it is.
BTW – agent – i love the idea of quotes, i shall submit some on Monday (weekend time!!)
Blue Fields (Orchestrated Version) – 10
Unknown Lands – 2
It was looking like a bit of a blowout there for "Blue Fields," but then "Unknown Lands" picked up a couple supporters. Aaand, next up, from the Most Exciting/Fun category…
Yuna’s Theme – Final Fantasy X-2 (Paine: "Sing campfire songs?" Brother: "Ooooh! That is it! All of Spira will be the captive of Yuna’s singing and dancing!" Rikku: "Great idea!")
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Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX (Alice: "Well, we let a bunch of animals loose and…" Vivi: (Oh, there’s gonna be a lot of animals.) "It sounds like fun! Thank you!" Alice: "What’s so fun about fighting savage beasts…? Wait a minute! Did I say ‘animals’ again!?")
Yuna’s Theme – 4
Hunter’s Chance – 6
Nice battle, Hunter’s Chance wins by a couple votes.
Next up…
Still More Fighting – Final Fantasy VII (President Shinra: "And such a waste of good fireworks, just to get rid of vermin like you???" Barret: "VERMIN!? That’s all you can say???VERMIN! Y’all Shinra’re the VERMIN, killing the planet! And that makes you King VERMIN! So shu’up jackass!" President Shinra: "???You are beginning to bore me. I’m a very busy man, so if you’ll excuse me???I have a dinner I must attend. Barret: "Dinner!? Don’t gimme that! I ain’t even start wit’ you yet!" President Shinra: "But I’ve made arrangements for a playmate for you all.")
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Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX (Beatrix: "Never step into this land again. Your pathetic powers are useless against me.")
Although I have heard it more than any other FF song.
So changing my vote to Mystery Sword
I know Im thinking of her battle music. Maybe your referring to something else…but if it is what im thinking of, amazing song.
But Mystery Sword nontheless, because Beatrix is my fav. FF character.
Still More Fighting – 4
Mystery Sword – 6
Wow, a comeback there! It was looking like it might be a blowout for FFVII at first there and then Mystery Sword came roaring in and there was even a changed vote.
We have four battles in the second round left — one in each category. First up, from the World Map Themes category…
Crossing Those Hills – Final Fantasy IX (Monty: "I have a gift for you, kupo. Take this flute. With this flute, you can call us anywhere in the world, kupo. Press ([]) to play it. Happy trails! Kupo!" Garnet: "Thank you." Monty: "Kupopo!" Vivi: "Bye." Monty: "Kupoo!" Steiner: "!!! What the… Who goes there!?" Monty: "Your friends already left, kupo.")
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The Evil Mist’s Rebirth – Final Fantasy IX (Steiner: "Don’t you see? Our altitude is not very high. And this is all we can see!" Zidane: "Then what could it be…" Vivi: "It’s Mist… It’s what black mages are made out of, and what used to cover the Mist Continent…" Dagger: "The Mist…has covered all of Gaia…" Zidane: "Why…? How…? Kuja… What are you planning now!?")
It’s FFIX vs. FFIX. But will it be the upbeat version of "Melodies of Life" or the sinister Evil Mist theme that moves on to the Quarter Finals?
Hm..
Crossing Those Hills.
Crossing Those Hills – 3
The Evil Mist’s Rebirth – 4
The sinister theme squeaks it out there.
Next up, from Most Unusual / Unique:
Otherworld – Final Fantasy X (Go now, if you want it / An Otherworld awaits you / Don’t you give up on it / You bite the hand that feeds you.)
vs.
Waltz for the Moon – Final Fantasy VIII (Rinoa: "You’re the best looking guy here. Dance with me? Let me guess…You’ll only dance with someone you like. Ok then… Look into my eyes…You’re-going-to-like-me…You’re-going-to-like-me…Did it work?" Squall: "…I can’t dance.")
Otherworld is a terrible attempt at rock.
Otherworld is a terrible attempt at rock.
Otherworld is a terrible attempt at rock.
Otherworld is a terrible attempt at rock.
Otherworld – <font color="red">0</font>
Waltz for the Moon – 9
Otherworld is blown out of the second round and the Waltz coasts to the Quater Finals.
On we go. Next up, and I think this will be a better battle. From the Best Boss / Special Battle Theme section:
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII (Laguna: "Daaaarn! Stupid dragon! Where the heck are Kiros and Ward!?" Kiros: "Laguna, did you call me? Yahhh!" Kiros: "Wait long enough? Here!" Laguna: "Alright! Time to kick some dragon butt!!! … … H-How many are there? They just keep comin’! We’re outta here!!!")
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The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons – Final Fantasy IX (Dagger: "Uncle Cid!? Why…? How did he know to show up here?" Zidane: "Probably because of Baku… He loves big showdowns! Now, let’s lose those dragons!")
It’s a pretty cool part of the game + I can’t stand Laguna scenes
It’s a pretty cool part of the game + I can’t stand Laguna scenes
It has a catchy sense of rhythm…
Skirmish of the Silver Dragon wasn’t bad either, but The Man with the Machine Gun stood out for me.
The Man with the Machine Gun – 8
The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons – 3
The Skirmish had support, but the Laguna battle theme sails into the quarter-finals.
This is the final battle in round 2. From the Most Exciting / Fun category…
Blitz Off – Final Fantasy X (Bobba: "The Aurochs are keeping the score tied with some excellent defense, folks! Ow! He’ll feel that one in the morning!" Jimma: "But the referee doesn’t call the foul! Wakka’s taking a real beating out there." Tidus: "Still in there!")
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Don’t Be Afraid – Final Fantasy VIII (Seifer: "Listen up! The finishing blow determines the EXP. Save it for me!" Squall: "Monsters, huh?" Zell: "That sucks." Seifer: "More fun for us. Come on…." Zell: "…Fun? Pu-lease…")
but as a song that’s in the "Exciting/Fun" category, I think "Blitz Off" does a better job of that….
Blitz Off – 3
Don’t Be Afraid – 10
An easy win for "Don’t Be Afraid."
And that’s the closing bell on the second round! Here’s what’s left for our Quarter Finals:
Don’t Be Afraid – Final Fantasy VIII (Eliminated in the Quarter Finals)
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII (Going on to the Semi-Finals)
Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to the Semi-Finals)
The Evil Mist’s Rebirth – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to the Semi-Finals)
Blue Fields (Orchestrated Version) – Final Fantasy VIII (Eliminated in the Quater Finals)
Slew of Love Letters – Final Fantasy IX (Eliminated in the Quarter Finals)
Waltz for the Moon – Final Fantasy VIII
First up:
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII ("It’s still dangerous! And since you’re such a cute little girl, the monsters will especially be after you! They’ll catch you and then they’ll suck all your blood out! If anything like that should happen, Uncle Laguna’s gonna cry…")
vs.
Slew of Love Letters – Final Fantasy IX ("I’m telling you, she was too shy to hand me the letter herself! And if you don’t think I’m a ladies’ man, you’re wrong. Chicks are intimidated by good-looking guys. That’s why…")
Download it and find out.
Also, Man with the Machine Gun
Edit: I vote for The Man With The Machine Gun!
( Oh, and Chrissss, here’s the Slew of Love Letters (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C97HCW5Q) song^^)
The Man with the Machine Gun – 6
Slew of Love Letters – 2
A fairly easy win for the Laguna battle theme. Not a lot of votes, perhaps because of the holiday weekend?
Next up:
Mystery Sword (a.k.a The Sword of Doubt) – Final Fantasy IX ("Ha ha ha. I’ve never been so humiliated in my life. I once killed a hundred knights single-handedly… To me, you two are nothing more than insects.")
vs.
Blue Fields (Orchestrated Version) – Final Fantasy VIII ("Once we get to the [Fire Cavern], I’ll explain how to junction magic. Use the command ‘Draw’ during battle and stock magic from your enemies. Be sure to have some stocked! Ready to go?")
Definately.
Mystery Sword – 10
Blue Fields – 1
A crushing win it is. Two battles left in the quarter-finals. First up:
Don’t Be Afraid – Final Fantasy VIII (Wedge: "Major Biggs…Have you finished the repairs, sir? What is the enemy doing here!?" Biggs: "WEDGE! Where were you!? No pay for you this month!" Wedge: "…Should’ve stayed home!")
vs.
The Evil Mist’s Rebirth – Final Fantasy IX (Kuja: "I’m not done telling how to make soulless toys out of the dregs of souls!" Zidane: "Dregs of souls? You mean Mist!?" Kuja: "First, you don’t want to listen, now you start asking questions? Oh, brother… But you’re not ready yet!")
Don’t Be Afraid – 3
The Evil Mist’s Rebirth – 6
"Evil Mist" wins by a comfortable margin, but it was generally agreed that it was a good / tough battle.
Final battle of the Quarter Finals:
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX (Dagger: "COME ON, VIVI!!! YOU CAN DO IT!" Steiner: "No! Master Vivi! Dagger: "Look out! Oh, gosh! I can’t watch anymore!" Steiner: "YOU CAN’T WIN JUST BY RUNNING! A GOOD OFFENSE IS THE BEST DEFENSE! ATTACK! You can’t lose to that monkey Zidane! YES! THAT’S IT! NOW’S YOUR CHANCE! ONE MORE TIME! VIVI, BEHIND YOU! YES! GO!")
vs.
Waltz for the Moon – Final Fantasy VIII (Quistis: "You really are an excellent student. Even that dance was perfect." Squall: "Thank you. … Yes?" Quistis: "So you’ll dance with someone you don’t even know, but you can’t even stand being around me?")
Waltz for the Moon
Waltz for the Moon
Hunter’s Chance – 5
Waltz for the Moon – 4
By a margin of just one vote, it’s "Hunter’s Chance" hanging in there. Will it be able to make the final battle? Semi-finals, coming up now…
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII (Going on to the Final)
Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to the Final)
The Evil Mist’s Rebirth – Final Fantasy IX (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
Final Fantasy IX has really cleaned up here, with three of its tunes in the semi-finals. So first up…
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX (Breeder: "This year’s specimen is perfect. Nothing can stop him! Ha ha ha! What power!" Soldier: "Hey, make him stop! It’s too early to let him loose!" Breeder: "How? I have no control over him." Soldier: "Dammit! Open the gate at once! The gate’s gonna fall apart!" Breeder: "GO, ZAGHNOL!")
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Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "Think you can get away?" Beatrix: "Get away? Hahaha. You’re a bigger fool than I imagined… Have you forgotten how badly I beat you back in Burmecia?" Freya: "So, you are more of a fool for not finishing what you started!" Vivi: "You’re gonna pay!" Quina: "I find no tasties in this town, so we cook you for breakfast!" Beatrix: "Then allow me to shatter your delusions of grandeur. … … No more games. … Stock Break. … … I shall leave with the jewel now.")
Hunter’s Chance – 1
Mystery Sword (or "The Sword of Doubt," as some are fond of) – 8
It would seem that "Mystery Sword" truly can’t lose, or at least for right now. We’ll be finding out soon if it can win the whole thing, but for now, we’ve got another semi-final battle to do…
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII (Laguna: "Seriously, I have a BAAAD feeling…! There’s somethin’ fishy goin’ on here! You know what the old folks say… The unfamiliar always happens…" Kiros: "You mean…’unexpected’, right?" Ward: "You only got the ‘un’ part right." Laguna: "Aah, shut up! Stop your clamorin’ and make sure all your gear’s equipped. Now, let’s move out!")
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The Evil Mist’s Rebirth – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "So what do you say, Rusty? Friends? Come on, let’s enjoy this camping trip while it lasts." Steiner: "Camping–you imbecile! Surely even you must know something about the Mist! The vicious monsters it spawns! The abnormalities it stirs in the mind and body! Princess, we must leave this dangerous place at once.")
Will this be an all FFIX final battle, or does the FFVIII Laguna battle tune have what it takes? Cast your votes?
P.S.: As I mentioned in an earlier post, the theme for the next edition is quotes. I’ve already started putting together a list of past favorite choices based on results in the sectionalized rumbles, but you’re welcome to do nominations as well. Remember, if you don’t nominate, then you can’t complain later if your favorite isn’t included. I’ll be including nomination spots as well, but this is your early chance to get something in. I’ll take pretty much anything except quotes from XII — I think it’s generally agreed that it’s too early for that. However if you have something from something like Crystal Chronicles, Tactics, Tactics Advance or XI, I’m perfectly willing to add it in.
Evil Machine Gun Man With Two Arms Who Comes From the Mist…
(edit)put machine gun arm by mistake.
are these quotes actual dialogue in the game or quotes like the one in my sig?!? or both!?
w/e – i nominate "This is great… I have Chicken-wuss and a guy who just hit puberty in my squad." Seifer, FFVIII -pure class!
I have a few nominations:
"Son of a submariner!" Kefka, FFVI
"Ooo, soft!" Zidane, FFIX
"It’s all ’cause of that $^$# pizza!" Barret, FFVII
"I, Garland, will knock you all down!" Garland, FFI
Oh–and I have, like, this awesome idea for the next general FF rumble!
Should I PM it to you, Agent0042? >> Or should I write it somewhere here?
I looked over the previous ones, and it hadn’t been done yet….
Ohhh, what the heck…! I’ll just write it here….
After this, I think it’d be great idea to do Spell Effects and animation!
There could be subcategories, too…"Best Overall", "Best Sound", "Most Innovative", "Most Devastating-Looking"…>> Or stuff like that….
I’ll upload short clips onto YouTube, too! Since there are many spells that people may not have seen many times due to lack of use, or anything like that….
But the reason I chose this is that some of the spell effects of some magic is very wonderfully done…some are very creative…and some I just like to cast because I love the sound it makes….
Quite a bit of time is spent on some spell animation, too! But they’re often overlooked due to the more flashy and lengthy ‘overdrives’/limits or summons….
Guy speak beaver. [Guy, FFII: Dawn of Souls]
You spoony bard! [Tellah, FFIV]
What the crap was that!? [Bartz, FFVA]
Sit your ass down in that chair and drink your GODDAMN tea! [Cid, FFVII]
This guy are sick. [Aeris, FFVII]
Do you have… any hot dogs left? [Zell, FFVIII]
When I grow up, I wanna be a blitzball! [Random kid, FFX]
Well, let’s do results so we can get on with the final…
The Man with the Machine Gun – 11
The Evil Mist’s Rebirth – 2
A strong win for the Laguna (/Kiros/Ward) battle theme.
And now, this is it. The moment you’ve been waiting for, our grand final battle…
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII (Laguna: "Don’t tell me…" Kiros: "Of all the worst possible…" Ward: "…Predicaments?" Laguna: "Arghhhh! I’m gettin’ hungry! … … Uhhhh! The tip o’my nose itchessss!")
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Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX (Freya: "That’s Beatrix? The cold-blooded knight who shows no mercy. Beatrix… Beatrix?" Fratley: "Yes… Beatrix. I hear there are many fierce warriors out in the world–some even more powerful than even I… …Beatrix of Alexandria, in particular. They say her swordsmanship is the best in the land.")
XD "Her"!
<< My username must be misleading….
And I will vote!
ah….
Hm, I actually like "Rose of May", or "Those whom we Protect" better than the "Mystery Sword" version….I like those two better than "Man with the Machine Gun"….
But I like Man with the Machine Gun better than Mystery Sword…
XP
I shall stick and support The Man With The Machine Gun!!
The Man with the Machine Gun – 5
Mystery Sword / The Sword of Doubt – 7
So <font color="red">Mystery Sword</font> is our big winner by just two votes!
Mystery Sword
Okay, we are moving on to the next addition, which is quotes. You guys have posted some great nominations. I’ve found quite a few good ones myself, so while I may not use all of your nominations, I will definitely include as many as possible. I am also including one additional nomination spot for each section. So if anyone has anymore nominations, submit them along with your vote. If nobody else nominates for a particular section, I’ll use the nominations previously posted, if there are any for that section. If not, I’ll make the selection myself. Oh, and I’ve decided that to simplify things, I’m only going to do quotes from FFV – X-2. Those that nominated anything from another game — don’t worry. I promise I will do one that includes those eventually.
Here’s the list of what’s included. Many of the quotes are so large that I am not posting the full text of the quotes right now. Instead, I’m posting descriptions and you may use these descriptions when casting your vote…
<font color="red">Final Fantasy V</font>
The Legend of the Crystals (Eliminated in Round 1)
No Mere Rage Nor Hatred
Grandpa is Laughing at Me
Nomination Spot
<font color="red">Final Fantasy VI</font>
Excerpt from "Aria di Mezzo Caraterre"
I Hate Hate Hate You (Eliminated in Round 1)
Monument to Non-Existence
Nomination Spot
<font color="red">Final Fantasy VII</font>
That Pizza
Drink Your Goddamn Tea (Eliminated in Round 1)
Cloud’s Revelation
Nomination Spot
<font color="red">Final Fantasy VIII</font>
POSSE… We Are, We Always Will Be
Good Luck, Seifer
Chicken Wuss (Eliminated in Round 1)
Nomination Spot
<font color="red">Final Fantasy IX</font>
My Heart is Set (Going on to Round 2)
What it Really Means to Die (Going on to Round 2)
Our Song
Nomination Spot
<font color="red">Final Fantasy X</font>
She Follows Her Heart (Going on to Round 2)
I Could Never Forget
Never Forget Them
Nomination Spot
<font color="red">Final Fantasy X-2</font>
Respect Points (Going on to Round 2)
Believe With Me
A Much Larger Ship
Nomination Spot
And now, first up…
Final Fantasy VI – I Hate Hate Hate You
Kefka: Kill the others and we’ll overlook your treachery! Take this sword! Take care of them. Immediately!!
Gestahl: Celes…together we can rule an entire world! Think of
it…!
Celes: (hesitates) Power only breeds war… I wish I’d never been… born. (she stabs Kefka)
Kefka: Ouch!! B…blood!? You…vicious brat! Grrr… Aargh… I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate HATE YOU! Grrr…
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Final Fantasy X – She Follows Her Heart
Tidus: Lulu! How could you? How could you? Isn’t she like a sister to you? I thought you were family! Why don’t you do something, Wakka?
Lulu: Don’t you think we tried to stop her? She follows…her heart.
Wakka: Yuna, she knew what she was doing when she chose to become a summoner. To face Sin, ya? Yuna knew!
Rikku: But Wakka, that’s just totally wrong! Summoners shouldn’t have to sacrifice themselves…just so the rest of Spira can be happy, right?
Isaaru: But that is our choice…
Dona: We all live in fear of Sin. You know that.
Isaaru: A world without Sin… That is the dream of all Yevon’s children.And we will use that power, even if it means our lives!
Tidus: And I’ve been telling Yuna… Let’s go to Zanarkand together! Let’s beat Sin! I told her all the things we could…we could… And all along, the whole time, I didn’t know anything! But Yuna, she’d…just smile.
When I read this–
"Tidus: And I’ve been telling Yuna… Let’s go to Zanarkand together! Let’s beat Sin! I told her all the things we could…we could… And all along, the whole time, I didn’t know anything! But Yuna, she’d…just smile."
I feel like…there’s so much pain that she hides so well, so much that no one could tell…
…she shouldn’t hold in the pain–she should let it out…! Holding it in is only more painful….
I want to cry for her….
I Hate Hate Hate You – 3
She Follows Her Heart – 6
The "hate" quote had support, but "She Follows Her Heart" wins by three votes. And next up…
Final Fantasy VIII – Chicken Wuss
Seifer: Ha ha, this is great! I’ve got a chicken-wuss and a guy that’s just reached puberty in my squad!
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Final Fantasy IX – What it Really Means to Die
Vivii: Mr. 288 told me that I understand what it means to live and to die… But it’s only because I thought stopping was different from dying… I don’t think I really understand what it means to live and to die. Where do we come from…? Do we go back there when we die…? If that’s what it means to live… I wonder where I came from…? Where will I end up when I die…? Why am I shaking…? What is it that I’m feeling…?
It’s comedy again (and surprisingly popular comedy too) vs. serious. Which will win?
What It Really Means to Die – 4
Not a lot of votes there, but "Chicken Wuss" (which, BTW, won the FFVIII quotes rumble a while back) is out for the count.
Next up:
Final Fantasy VII – Drink Your Goddamn Tea
Cid: #*$&#! Shera. What are you blind!? We got guest!! GET SOME TEA! @&#^@!
Shera: I…I’m sorry.
Cloud: Really, don’t mind us.
Cid: Shut up! Sit your ass down in that chair and drink you goddamn TEA! Arggggggh! DAMN, I’m pissed! Shera! I’ll be in the backyard tunin’ up Tiny Bronco! AN’ make sure to serve them some tea! All right!?
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Final Fantasy X-2 – Respect Points
Rikku: Well I do. I do wanna know more about you.
Paine: What for? Who cares what happened in the past?
Yuna: There was something! Come on, Paine! You can tell us! What happened?
Paine: You disappoint me, Yuna. I thought you were above all that.
Yuna: Well, not anymore. I like asking questions.
Paine: You’ll lose friends.
Yuna: You think so Never mind, then.
Rikku: Aww! And I was looking forward to hearing the good stuff! Confessions of a shady past!
Paine: You’re a pain. Minus four respect points, Rikku.
Rikku: Uh-oh, how many points left?
Paine: Forty-seven.
Rikku: That’s not a whole lot, is it?
It’s comedy vs. comedy this time. Cast your votes!
But I love Drink your Goddamn Tea so much…
XD Is Cid trying to be polite or not?
Drink Your Goddamn Tea – 6
Respect Points – 6
Wow. Wasn’t expecting a tie. Well, the rule for the first round on this one is when we’re in a tie situation, whichever one was winning before the tying vote came in goes through. And in this case, that would be Respect Points. So the FFX-2 quote squeaks it by one vote!
Next up…
Final Fantasy V – The Legend of the Crystals
In the beginning, there was Void. Then four Spirits came. Together in this Void, the Crystals were born and the world was created.
Thus, Hope gave the Earth blessings, Courage lit the flame, Kindness made water as a source of life and Quest let wisdom ride upon the wind.
When the void endangers the world again, the evil that was sealed away will be reborn. If within people live the four spirits, Light shall again be born.
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Final Fantasy IX – My Heart is Set
Beatrix: It can’t be… Princess… …So, it was true. The queen really did mean to kill her…
Steiner: WHAT!? No! The queen would never do such a thing!
Beatrix: Steiner, it is time for you to accept the truth. …My heart is set. All this time, I have been mistaken…
Zidane: I hate to say it, but the lady’s right, Rusty. You’d better learn to accept it.
Beatrix: …Citizens of Burmecia, please forgive me.
Freya: It is too late to seek forgiveness! …But you can still save Dagger.
Zidane: Freya…
The Legend of the Crystals – 2
My Heart is Set – 4
"My Heart" wins by a couple votes. Well, maybe this will be a better battle…
Final Fantasy VII – Cloud’s Revelation
Soldier: Mom… Tifa… my town… give it back… I had so much respect for you… I admired you…
Tifa: Cloud!? That’s what happened… …You were there. You were watching me. Yeah, I remember. Hmm… so it was you.
Zack: Hey Cloud. If you’re feeling sick, why don’t you take that mask off?
Cloud: Yeah…… Yeah… this is… me. I …never made it as a member of SOLDIER. I even left my hometown telling everyone I was going to join, but… I was so embarrassed…… I didn’t want to see anybody…
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Final Fantasy X – I Could Never Forget
Tidus: No problem! Zanarkand never sleeps! Let’s go to the sea, before the sunrise. The city lights go out one by one. The star fade… Then the horizon glows, almost like it’s on fire. It’s kinda rose-colored, right? First in the sea, then it spreads to the sky, then to the whole city. It gets brighter and brighter, till everything glows. It’s really…pretty. I know you’d like it.
Yuna: I’d like to see it, someday.
Tidus: Well you can, Yuna. We can both go!
Tidus: Yu…?
Yuna: I can’t. I just can’t! I can’t go!
Tidus: Yuna.
Yuna: I’ll continue. I must. If I give up now… I could do anything I wanted to, and yet… Even if I was with you, I could never forget.
Tidus: I’ll go with you. I’m your guardian. Unless I’m…fired?
Yuna: Stay with me until the end. Please.
Tidus: Not until the end… Always.
Yuna: Always, then.
"Cloud’s Revelation" doesn’t work well unless you see the scenes that are going by–otherwise, the quote itself seems confused and jumbled….
For me, that scene was amazing….
But…alone as a quote, it doesn’t stand as well…><
So I will say "I Could Never Forget".
That was another important moment in FFX…
x2
Cloud’s Revelation – 4
I Could Never Forget – 13
Pretty overwhelming, the FFX quote goes on to the second round.
Next up…
Final Fantasy VI – Monument to Non-Existence
Kefka: I command the greatest power in the universe! You are all
helpless before me! I will destroy everything… I will create a monument to non-existence!
Terra: (or other if Terra is not present) Life will go on, there will always be people, and dreams.
Kefka: No! I will hunt them down. I will destroy it all! Destroy! Destroy! Destroy!!
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Final Fantasy VIII – Good Luck, Seifer
Quistis: Good luck Seifer.
Seifer: Instructor, I hate when people wish me luck. Save those words for a bad student who needs them, eh?
Quistis: Ok then. Good luck, Seifer.
Good Luck, Seifer.
Monument to Non-Existence – 7
Good Luck, Seifer – 9
A flurry of votes for the cheesy super-villain dialogue weren’t enough to save it from Seifer’s wisecrack.
On we go, now…
Final Fantasy V – No Mere Rage Nor Hatred
Galuf: Exdeath!!
Exdeath: Take this.You’ve made me mad! To the world of Death with you!! "Flare" "Holy" "Meteo" Wh-, why won’t you die!
Galuf: Not yet. I can’t die yet. Even if my life burns out. I will defeat you!!
Exdeath: Neither rage nor hatred can defeat me.
Galuf This is no mere rage nor hatred!
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Final Fantasy X-2 – A Much Larger Ship
Baralai: There are some things you can’t do alone. But they become easy with friends beside you.
Nooj: This was the lesson that we learned when we launched those ships.
Baralai: It was power… And we misused that power. We turned our friends and followers against each other.
Nooj: Forgive us. (He, Baralai and Gippal bow.)
Baralai: Somehow we forgot. There’s a much larger ship out there. One we’ve been riding ever since we were born. That ship is Spira.
Nooj: No one knows just where our voyage will lead us. But we do know one thing: One way or another, we will get by. We’ll go on living. The Calm will continue.
P.S.: I apologize for the slightly shitty translation on the FFV quotes. I’ve seen better before, but that’s the best I could cobble together from online translations and my own edits based on memory.
No Mere Rage Nor Hatred – 7
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A Much Larger Ship – 5
Looked like maybe the FFX-2 quote would battle back, but the classic FFV quote won this one. Okay, moving on…
Final Fantasy VII – That Pizza
Cloud: A floating city… Pretty unsettling scenery.
Barret: Huh? Never expect ta hear that outta someone like you. ???you jes’ full of surprise. The upper world???a city on a plate??? It’s ‘cuz of that #$@*&#’ pizza’, that people underneath are sufferin’! And the city below is full of polluted air. On topa that, the Reactor keeps drainin’ up all the energy.
Cloud: Then why doesn’t everyone move onto the Plate?
Barret: Dunno. Probably ‘cuz they ain’t got no money. Or, maybe??? ‘Cuz they love their land, no matter how polluted it gets.
Cloud: I know???no one lives in the slums because they want to. It’s like this train. It can’t run anywhere except where its rails take it.
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Final Fantasy VIII – POSSE… We Are, We Always Will Be
Fujin: POSSE… We are. We always will be. Because we’re a posse, we want to help you. Whatever it takes to fulfill your dream, we’re willing to do. But…You’re being manipulated, Seifer. You’ve lost yourself and your dream. You’re just eating out of someone’s hand. We want the old you back! Since we can’t get through to you, all we have now to rely on is Squall! It’s sad…Sad that we only have Squall to rely on… Seifer! Are you still gonna keep goin’?
Fix’d
That Pizza – 6
POSSE… We Are, We Always Will Be – 1
Definitely not a popular battle and "That Pizza" coasts to victory.
We’re coming down to the wire on the first round, but we still have a few battles left. Let’s move on to…
Final Fantasy V – Grandpa is Laughing at Me
Krile/Cara: Everyone! You’ve come!
Bartz/Butz: Of course. How could we forget about a friend we fought together with?
Krile/Cara: Everyone.
Reina/Lenna: Tears don’t suit you. Krile, you need to be strong!
Faris: Galuf’s gonna laugh at you!
Krile/Cara: Sniffle. Hehe, you’re right. Grandpa is laughing at me. The Crystals have regained their power. Now we must protect it.
Butz: Just like Dad and the rest had protected them.
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Final Fantasy X-2 – Believe With Me
Yuna: One thousand years ago, before the time of Sin… Spira was torn in two, divided by a terrible war. This was Spira’s great mistake. Out of the rift left by this terrible conflict, Sin was born. In only two short years, Spira has shaken off its unhappy past. We have moved on. Now, Spira grows brighter with each passing day. That light is our strength. I don’t want to see it fade. Do you? There are so many of us, each with different ideas and different beliefs. Of course we sometimes disagree, and arguments will happen. But our hearts can and should always be one. (Lenne joins.) Believe with me: Even if we’re torn apart, our feelings will unite us. That’s what this song is about. ("One Thousand Words," concert version begins)
Grandpa is Laughing at Me – 1
Believe With Me – 11
A near wipeout. The FFX-2 quote coasts to an easy victory. Next up…
Final Fantasy IX – Our Song
Marcus: Could she have betrayed me? Nay, ne’er would my love speak false. I must have faith! She shall appear if I only believe! As the sun lends me no ear, I pray instead to the twin moons! I beseech thee, wondrous moonlight, grant me my only wish! (tosses off cloak, revealing himself as Zidane .) Bring my beloved Dagger to me!
Dagger/Garnet: How did you survive…?
Zidane: I didn’t have a choice. I had to live. I wanted to come home to you. So… I sang your song. Our song.
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Final Fantasy X – Never Forget Them
Yuna: Everyone…everyone has lost something precious. Everyone here has lost homes, dreams, and friends. Everybody… Now, Sin is finally dead. Now, Spira is ours again. Working together… Now we can make new home for ourselves, and new dreams. Although I know the journey will be hard, we have lots of time. Together, we will rebuild Spira. The road is ahead of us, so let’s start out today. Just, one more thing… The people and the friends that we have lost, or the dreams that have faded… Never forget them.
I loved FF-IX and i loed its last words but Final Fantasy X was more touching.
I loved FF-IX and I loved its last words.
:smrt:
Our Song – 6
Never Forget Them – 6
Oh my goodness. Been a while since we’ve had this — a tie situation. Well, in that case, we go with whichever entrant was winning before the final vote came in. And that would be Never Forget Them. So it was extremely close, but the FFX quote goes on to the second round.
Next up:
Final Fantasy VI – Excerpt from "Aria di Mezzo Caraterre"
Celes
Oh my hero, so far away now.
Will I ever see your smile?
Love goes away, like night into day.
It’s just a fading dream.
I’m the darkness, you’re the stars.
Our love is brighter than the sun.
For eternity, for me there can be,
Only you, my chosen one…
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Final Fantasy VIII – The Manliness Scale
Laguna: (Ah… To be this close to Julia…)
Squall: (Is this guy serious…?)
Laguna: (…Uh-oh… My leg’s cramping up…! Argh…)
Squall: (Sad…)
Kiros: Good work, Laguna.
Ward: Mission successful!
Kiros: Here, have a seat.
Ward: I didn’t think you’d actually do it. Our popularity rating’s gone up a point.
Kiros: Yeah, but you cut a pretty pitiful figure up there. I’d say you’re about a -3 on the manliness scale.
Laguna: Say what you want! (sigh…) Julia sure is pretty…
Celes
Oh my hero, so far away now.
Will I ever see your smile?
Love goes away, like night into day.
It’s just a fading dream.
I’m the darkness, you’re the stars.
Our love is brighter than the sun.
For eternity, for me there can be,
Only you, my chosen one…
AWESOME part of the game…it definitely gets my vote.
Also, I dislike your tiebreaking method, Agent, because it basically takes someone’s vote away. OMG DISENFRANCHISEMENT ON TEH INTARWEBZ!!1!1
Just saying it’s something for you to consider.
I suppose I could try the tie-breaker selection some other way, but I’m not really sure what would be fairer. With the way I’m doing it now, it’s like if one is winning and the other one ties, then it’s like sorry, but that’s not quite enough. If you see that your choice is tied and I suppose if you really want it to win, go see if you can recruit somebody else to vote for it before I make it in to post the next battle.
I also agree with Prak. It makes the last persons vote pointless. Flipping a coin would be fairer imo.
Otherwise, carry on with the voting.
Also, I dislike your tiebreaking method, Agent, because I’m an FF9 fanboy
Fix’d :smrt:
I also vote for Excerpt from "Aria di Mezzo Caraterre"
Agent, in my rumble, I usually vote myself (the pairings are random), and if there’s a tie, I withdraw my vote.
Excerpt from "Aria di Mezzo Caraterre" – 10
The Manliness Scale – 5
Fairly clear-cut, there. The FFVI opera excerpt moves on to the second round. Next up:
Final Fantasy V – Doesn’t Make Me any Less Important
Reina/Lenna: What’s goin on?
Butz/Bartz: Reina. Fa. Faris is.
Galuf: A girl!!
Faris: What’s wrong with that!?
Lenna: But, why?
Faris: I was found by the pirates when I was little, and they raised me.
Butz: And you pretended to be a man?
Faris: A female pirate would just get laughed at.
Galuf: Hmph. I knew you were too beautiful to be a man!
Faris: Hey, just remember that my being a female doesn’t make me any less important! I’m just as good as you guys!
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Final Fantasy VII – I Came Up With Something Different
Barret: You’re pretty damn optimistic! You up to somethin’!?
Cid: Yeah, I been thinkin’ about this and that. All the time we been up here lookin’ at the planet. I been thinkin’ even when were floatin’ in the ocean in that escape pod.
Cloud: I’ve… been thinking too. About the universe… planet… ocean. How wide and big… No matter where I go and what I do it won’t change a thing.
Cid: Maybe you’re right. But I came up with something different. I always thought this planet was so huge. But lookin’ at it from space, I realized it’s so small. We’re just floatin’ in the dark. ……kind of makes you feel powerless. On top of that it’s got Sephiroth festerin’ inside it like a sickness. That’s why I say this planet’s still a kid. A little kid sick and trembling in the middle of this huge universe. Someone’s gotta protect it. Ya follow me? That someone is us.
Tifa: Cid… that’s beautiful.
Barret: Yo! Cid! You even got to me! Do, now what? How’re we gonna protect the planet from Meteor?
Cid: ……………I’m still thinkin’ about that.
I know. I’m gonna have to try to find a better script. So many of the translations of FFV online are weak, or lame, or stupid (or all three.) I’ve been trying to locate a better one, but so far I haven’t had any luck.
Anyway, carry on…
Doesn’t Make Me Any Less Important – 6
I Came Up With Something Different – 3
The FFV quote goes on to the second round.
Next up:
Final Fantasy VI – Call Me a Treasure Hunter
Merchant: You’re that thief, Locke, aren’t you?
Locke: Hey! Call me treasure hunter, or I’ll rip your lungs out!
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Final Fantasy X-2 – Lucil’s Speech
When the Calm arrived two years ago, it echoed deep in the hearts of Spira’s youth. With Sin’s defeat, we had lost not only our mortal enemy, but also our purpose in life. I, too, felt lost. I did not know what direction to take, where to channel my energy. It was Meyvn Nooj who guided our lost generation to a new purpose: to uncover Spira’s true past. This is the same man who was once called Deathseeker, who made no attempt to hide his despair. What caused Meyvn Nooj to change? That is not for us to know. Nonetheless, under Nooj’s leadership, we finally found a way to apply our strength. But look at us now! The power we hoped to use for good has intoxicated us all. Even Nooj. The Youth League is in danger of becoming a mindless band of thugs that know only violence. A power that destroys rather than creates. Without meaning. No better than Sin. Do you remember why the Youth League seeks the truth behind Spira’s past? Because Spira’s past is the foundation for its future. Our power exists so that we may cut a new road, to a new age. An age where children will never have to lift a sword!
humour>drama
Call Me a Treasure Hunter – 8
Lucil’s Speech – 1
The Locke quote easily puts Lucil’s little speech to bed. Now battling:
Final Fantasy IX – First Act: The End of Ugly Desire
Kuja: I’m not done telling how to make soulless toys out of the dregs of souls!
Zidane: Dregs of souls? You mean Mist!?
Kuja: First, you don’t want to listen, now you start asking questions? Oh, brother… But you’re not ready yet!
Dagger: Why, you– don’t you feel anything!? Taking the lives of so many…
Kuja: Spare me the lecture. Lives come and go all the time. What’s the big deal? Speaking of warmongers, why… what about that mother of yours, Princess? She said she won’t feel alive until she has everything! It breaks my heart to see such greed! The war was my fault? No, no! Your mother wanted it! All I did was give her a little push!
Dagger: Liar! My mother was sweet and kind. You changed her!
Kuja: Mwahaha… So the curtain rises! Perfect, my canary. Let me show you the truth about your mother! First Act: The End of Ugly Desire. It’s showtime!
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Final Fantasy X – Pretend I Didn’t Say It
Wakka: Excuse me… Maester Seymour? Why is your Lordship…presently…present here…sir?
Seymour: Please, speak as you normally would.
Wakka: Isn’t this operation against the teachings of Yevon? Aren’t you gonna stop them?
Seymour: It’s true… I should. However… Both the Crusaders and the Al Bhed truly wish peace for Spira. This Operation Mi’ihen was born from that wish they share. Although it may be sacrilege to Yevon, their intentions are pure. And I, Seymour Guado — the person, not the maester of Yevon… As a denizen of Spira, I wish them well in their endeavor.
Wakka: But, using machina… That’s bad, isn’t it?
Seymour: Pretend you didn’t see them.
Wakka: Beg your pardon, but that’s not something a maester should say!
Seymour: Then, pretend I didn’t say it.
Wakka: You’re kidding!
Tidus: (narrating) From the first time I laid eyes on him, I never did like Seymour… But you know, some of the things he said that day… They made a lot of sense to me.
humour>drama
Pretend I Didn’t Say It – 5
For something that wasn’t a choice, it was a better battle than some. But still, the FFIX quote wins easily.
Okay, we have two more battles left in this round. And because some things are a bit uneven, a few of the games are going to have more entrants than others. So let’s get that taken care of with the first of the final two battles of this round:
Final Fantasy VI – Magicite Hocus-Pocus
Kefka: I’d say you’re all charged up, boys and girls…or whatever… Say, remind me to show you my Magicite collection someday! You might see a few familiar faces!!! Now for a little Magicite hocus-pocus…! … … Now, little Espers… Let’s see whatcha got! … … Eh?! You wanna take me on? Fine. Here I am… Imagine! Thinking you could defeat ME!! This is rich! Mwa, ha, ha! Now, my little Magicite pretties…… come, and help me build the magical empire of "Kefka"!
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Final Fantasy VIII – An Enemy That is Pure Evil?
Irvine: So like… Is it true that SeeDs aren’t supposed to question their mission?
Squall: (There are times I’d like to know myself. Like…now for example. But…) What do you care?
Irvine: So like…if you knew that your enemies were pure evil, you’d get more fired up to fight them, right?
Squall: (…An enemy that is pure evil? Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It’s different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There’s no good or bad side. Just 2 sides holding different views.)
Magicite Hocus-Pocus – 6
An Enemy That is Pure Evil? – 8
So the FFVIII quote wins by a couple votes.
Final battle of the first round:
Final Fantasy V – The Great Gilgamesh
Necrophobia: Gilgamesh!!
Gilgamesh: Phew! I made it!! If I go home right now, I’ll remain in history as a weakling!
Necrophobia: Heh. Blabbermouth, I’ll get rid of you first!
Gilgamesh: You’re pretty good! You can even defeat, the great Gilgamesh?! Cara, your grandfather, he was a strong man!
Cara: Grandpa.
Gilgamesh: Faris, go fall in love! Then you’d be more feminine!
Faris: …
Gilgamesh: Lenna, never forget you love for animals.
Lenna: …
Gilgamesh: Butz, I would have like to have a one on one battle with you! You were such good friends.
Necrophobia: Gilgamesh, DIE!
Gilgamesh: That’s my line!
(Agent0042: I’m really sorry about the less-than-stellar script.)
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Final Fantasy X-2 – Always "We Had No Choice"
Yuna: "We had no choice." Always "we had no choice." Those are our magic words. We repeat them to ourselves again and again. But you know… The magic never worked! The only thing we’re left with is regret.
Voice of Braska: Yuna…I’m sorry.
Yuna: No. I don’t want this anymore. I don’t want friends to die…or fade away. I don’t want battles where we have to lose in order to win. Nooj, I know that what you say is what you mean to do. Give me your resolve. Believe in Yuna.
It sounds so much better in Japanese…Gilgamesh rules!!!
The Great Gilgamesh – 10
Always "We Had No Choice" – 3
Okay, let’s see what’s left for the second round:
<font color="red">Final Fantasy V</font>
No Mere Rage Nor Hatred
Doesn’t Make Me any Less Important
The Great Gilgamesh
<font color="red">Final Fantasy VI</font>
Excerpt from "Aria di Mezzo Caraterre"
Call Me a Treasure Hunter
<font color="red">Final Fantasy VII</font>
That Pizza
<font color="red">Final Fantasy VIII</font>
Good Luck, Seifer
An Enemy That is Pure Evil?
<font color="red">Final Fantasy IX</font>
My Heart is Set
What it Really Means to Die
First Act: The End of Ugly Desire
<font color="red">Final Fantasy X</font>
She Follows Her Heart
I Could Never Forget
Never Forget Them
<font color="red">Final Fantasy X-2</font>
Respect Points
Believe With Me
First up in this round:
Final Fantasy VIII – Good Luck, Seifer
Quistis: Good luck Seifer.
Seifer: Instructor, I hate when people wish me luck. Save those words for a bad student who needs them, eh?
Quistis: Ok then. Good luck, Seifer.
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Final Fantasy X – She Follows Her Heart
Tidus: Lulu! How could you? How could you? Isn’t she like a sister to you? I thought you were family! Why don’t you do something, Wakka?
Lulu: Don’t you think we tried to stop her? She follows…her heart.
Wakka: Yuna, she knew what she was doing when she chose to become a summoner. To face Sin, ya? Yuna knew!
Rikku: But Wakka, that’s just totally wrong! Summoners shouldn’t have to sacrifice themselves…just so the rest of Spira can be happy, right?
Isaaru: But that is our choice…
Dona: We all live in fear of Sin. You know that.
Isaaru: A world without Sin… That is the dream of all Yevon’s children.And we will use that power, even if it means our lives!
Tidus: And I’ve been telling Yuna… Let’s go to Zanarkand together! Let’s beat Sin! I told her all the things we could…we could… And all along, the whole time, I didn’t know anything! But Yuna, she’d…just smile.
also, im disgusted at the result of the last battle.
Though "Good Luck, Seifer" always makes me laugh, "She Follows Her Heart" made me feel more. It was very eye-opening for me….
Good Luck, Seifer – 4
She Follows Her Heart – 10
Fairly easy win for the FFX quote, which moves into the quarter-finals.
Next up:
Final Fantasy VI – Call Me a Treasure Hunter
Merchant: You’re that thief, Locke, aren’t you?
Locke: Hey! Call me treasure hunter, or I’ll rip your lungs out!
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Final Fantasy IX – First Act: The End of Ugly Desire
Kuja: I’m not done telling how to make soulless toys out of the dregs of souls!
Zidane: Dregs of souls? You mean Mist!?
Kuja: First, you don’t want to listen, now you start asking questions? Oh, brother… But you’re not ready yet!
Dagger: Why, you– don’t you feel anything!? Taking the lives of so many…
Kuja: Spare me the lecture. Lives come and go all the time. What’s the big deal? Speaking of warmongers, why… what about that mother of yours, Princess? She said she won’t feel alive until she has everything! It breaks my heart to see such greed! The war was my fault? No, no! Your mother wanted it! All I did was give her a little push!
Dagger: Liar! My mother was sweet and kind. You changed her!
Kuja: Mwahaha… So the curtain rises! Perfect, my canary. Let me show you the truth about your mother! First Act: The End of Ugly Desire. It’s showtime!
Call Me A Treasure Hunter is a more fun quote. ๐ Short, strong, and silly!
Call Me A Treasure Hunter is a more fun quote. ๐ Short, strong, and silly!
Call Me a Treasure Hunter – 5
First Act: The End of Ugly Desire – 6
The Kuja quote moves on to the quarterfinals by just one vote.
And now battling:
Final Fantasy VII – That Pizza
Cloud: A floating city… Pretty unsettling scenery.
Barret: Huh? Never expect ta hear that outta someone like you. …you jes’ full of surprise. The upper world…a city on a plate… It’s ‘cuz of that #$@*&#’ pizza’, that people underneath are sufferin’! And the city below is full of polluted air. On topa that, the Reactor keeps drainin’ up all the energy.
Cloud: Then why doesn’t everyone move onto the Plate?
Barret: Dunno. Probably ‘cuz they ain’t got no money. Or, maybe… ‘Cuz they love their land, no matter how polluted it gets.
Cloud: I know…no one lives in the slums because they want to. It’s like this train. It can’t run anywhere except where its rails take it.
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Final Fantasy X-2 – Respect Points
Rikku: Well I do. I do wanna know more about you.
Paine: What for? Who cares what happened in the past?
Yuna: There was something! Come on, Paine! You can tell us! What happened?
Paine: You disappoint me, Yuna. I thought you were above all that.
Yuna: Well, not anymore. I like asking questions.
Paine: You’ll lose friends.
Yuna: You think so? Never mind, then.
Rikku: Aww! And I was looking forward to hearing the good stuff! Confessions of a shady past!
Paine: You’re a pain. Minus four respect points, Rikku.
Rikku: Uh-oh, how many points left?
Paine: Forty-seven.
Rikku: That’s not a whole lot, is it?
Respect Points please.
Respect Points please.
X3
Okay, results:
That Pizza – 4
Respect Points – 10
The FFVII quote had a few supporters, but FFVII support in this edition has been weak and so the only FFVII quote left in the rumble flies away. "Respect Points" moves easily to the quarter-finals.
On we go:
Final Fantasy V – No Mere Rage Nor Hatred
Galuf: Exdeath!!
Exdeath: Take this.You’ve made me mad! To the world of Death with you!! "Flare" "Holy" "Meteo" Wh-, why won’t you die!
Galuf: Not yet. I can’t die yet. Even if my life burns out. I will defeat you!!
Exdeath: Neither rage nor hatred can defeat me.
Galuf This is no mere rage nor hatred!
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Final Fantasy X – Never Forget Them
Yuna: Everyone…everyone has lost something precious. Everyone here has lost homes, dreams, and friends. Everybody… Now, Sin is finally dead. Now, Spira is ours again. Working together… Now we can make new home for ourselves, and new dreams. Although I know the journey will be hard, we have lots of time. Together, we will rebuild Spira. The road is ahead of us, so let’s start out today. Just, one more thing… The people and the friends that we have lost, or the dreams that have faded… Never forget them.
No Mere Rage Nor Hatred – 6
Never Forget Them – 5
Wow. A win by just one vote. The FFV quote makes it to the quarter-finals.
And now, our next battle:
Final Fantasy VI – Excerpt from "Aria di Mezzo Caraterre"
Celes
Oh my hero, so far away now.
Will I ever see your smile?
Love goes away, like night into day.
It’s just a fading dream.
I’m the darkness, you’re the stars.
Our love is brighter than the sun.
For eternity, for me there can be,
Only you, my chosen one…
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Final Fantasy X-2 – Believe With Me
Yuna: One thousand years ago, before the time of Sin… Spira was torn in two, divided by a terrible war. This was Spira’s great mistake. Out of the rift left by this terrible conflict, Sin was born. In only two short years, Spira has shaken off its unhappy past. We have moved on. Now, Spira grows brighter with each passing day. That light is our strength. I don’t want to see it fade. Do you? There are so many of us, each with different ideas and different beliefs. Of course we sometimes disagree, and arguments will happen. But our hearts can and should always be one. (Lenne joins.) Believe with me: Even if we’re torn apart, our feelings will unite us. That’s what this song is about.
Excerpt from "Aria di Mezzo Caraterre" – 6
Believe With Me – 2
Easy breezing for the FFVI song excerpt.
And now battling:
Final Fantasy VIII – An Enemy That is Pure Evil?
Irvine: So like… Is it true that SeeDs aren’t supposed to question their mission?
Squall: (There are times I’d like to know myself. Like…now for example. But…) What do you care?
Irvine: So like…if you knew that your enemies were pure evil, you’d get more fired up to fight them, right?
Squall: (…An enemy that is pure evil? Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It’s different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There’s no good or bad side. Just 2 sides holding different views.)
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Final Fantasy IX – My Heart is Set
Beatrix: It can’t be… Princess… …So, it was true. The queen really did mean to kill her…
Steiner: WHAT!? No! The queen would never do such a thing!
Beatrix: Steiner, it is time for you to accept the truth. …My heart is set. All this time, I have been mistaken…
Zidane: I hate to say it, but the lady’s right, Rusty. You’d better learn to accept it.
Beatrix: …Citizens of Burmecia, please forgive me.
Freya: It is too late to seek forgiveness! …But you can still save Dagger.
Zidane: Freya…
An Enemy That is Pure Evil? – 2
My Heart is Set – 11
And that does in FFVIII for this edition. Next:
Final Fantasy V – The Great Gilgamesh
Necrophobia: Gilgamesh!!
Gilgamesh: Phew! I made it!! If I go home right now, I’ll remain in history as a weakling!
Necrophobia: Heh. Blabbermouth, I’ll get rid of you first!
Gilgamesh: You’re pretty good! You can even defeat, the great Gilgamesh?! Cara, your grandfather, he was a strong man!
Cara: Grandpa.
Gilgamesh: Faris, go fall in love! Then you’d be more feminine!
Faris: …
Gilgamesh: Lenna, never forget you love for animals.
Lenna: …
Gilgamesh: Butz, I would have like to have a one on one battle with you! You were such good friends.
Necrophobia: Gilgamesh, DIE!
Gilgamesh: That’s my line! (He sacrifices himself to finish off Necrophobia.)
vs.
Final Fantasy X – I Could Never Forget
Tidus: No problem! Zanarkand never sleeps! Let’s go to the sea, before the sunrise. The city lights go out one by one. The star fade… Then the horizon glows, almost like it’s on fire. It’s kinda rose-colored, right? First in the sea, then it spreads to the sky, then to the whole city. It gets brighter and brighter, till everything glows. It’s really…pretty. I know you’d like it.
Yuna: I’d like to see it, someday.
Tidus: Well you can, Yuna. We can both go!
Tidus: Yu…?
Yuna: I can’t. I just can’t! I can’t go!
Tidus: Yuna.
Yuna: I’ll continue. I must. If I give up now… I could do anything I wanted to, and yet… Even if I was with you, I could never forget.
Tidus: I’ll go with you. I’m your guardian. Unless I’m…fired?
Yuna: Stay with me until the end. Please.
Tidus: Not until the end… Always.
Yuna: Always, then.
But I was slightly disappointed at his overall stupidity in FF3 for DS.
The Great Gilgamesh – 11
I Could Never Forget – 4
A fairly easy win for the FFV quote and one of the most well-known quotes from X goes bye-bye.
Hey, look it’s the final battle the second round:
Final Fantasy V – Doesn’t Make Me Any Less Important
Reina/Lenna: What’s goin on?
Butz/Bartz: Reina. Fa. Faris is.
Galuf: A girl!!
Faris: What’s wrong with that!?
Lenna: But, why?
Faris: I was found by the pirates when I was little, and they raised me.
Butz: And you pretended to be a man?
Faris: A female pirate would just get laughed at.
Galuf: Hmph. I knew you were too beautiful to be a man!
Faris: Hey, just remember that my being a female doesn’t make me any less important! I’m just as good as you guys!
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Final Fantasy IX – What It Really Means to Die
Vivii: Mr. 288 told me that I understand what it means to live and to die… But it’s only because I thought stopping was different from dying… I don’t think I really understand what it means to live and to die. Where do we come from…? Do we go back there when we die…? If that’s what it means to live… I wonder where I came from…? Where will I end up when I die…? Why am I shaking…? What is it that I’m feeling…?
gets me all choked up
One of the best moment’s in the FF series.
Doesn’t Make Me Any Less Important – 2
What It Really Means to Die – 11
The FFIX quote sails through to the quarter-finals and here they are:
<font color="red">Final Fantasy V</font>
No Mere Rage Nor Hatred
The Great Gilgamesh
<font color="red">Final Fantasy VI</font>
Excerpt from "Aria di Mezzo Caraterre"
<font color="red">Final Fantasy IX</font>
My Heart is Set
What it Really Means to Die
First Act: The End of Ugly Desire
<font color="red">Final Fantasy X</font>
She Follows Her Heart
<font color="red">Final Fantasy X-2</font>
Respect Points
FFIX is obviously the game to beat here, so let’s get started with it right away. This is the first battle of the quarter-finals.
Final Fantasy IX – First Act: The End of Ugly Desire
Kuja: I’m not done telling how to make soulless toys out of the dregs of souls!
Zidane: Dregs of souls? You mean Mist!?
Kuja: First, you don’t want to listen, now you start asking questions? Oh, brother… But you’re not ready yet!
Dagger: Why, you– don’t you feel anything!? Taking the lives of so many…
Kuja: Spare me the lecture. Lives come and go all the time. What’s the big deal? Speaking of warmongers, why… what about that mother of yours, Princess? She said she won’t feel alive until she has everything! It breaks my heart to see such greed! The war was my fault? No, no! Your mother wanted it! All I did was give her a little push!
Dagger: Liar! My mother was sweet and kind. You changed her!
Kuja: Mwahaha… So the curtain rises! Perfect, my canary. Let me show you the truth about your mother! First Act: The End of Ugly Desire. It’s showtime!
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Final Fantasy X – She Follows Her Heart
Tidus: Lulu! How could you? How could you? Isn’t she like a sister to you? I thought you were family! Why don’t you do something, Wakka?
Lulu: Don’t you think we tried to stop her? She follows…her heart.
Wakka: Yuna, she knew what she was doing when she chose to become a summoner. To face Sin, ya? Yuna knew!
Rikku: But Wakka, that’s just totally wrong! Summoners shouldn’t have to sacrifice themselves…just so the rest of Spira can be happy, right?
Isaaru: But that is our choice…
Dona: We all live in fear of Sin. You know that.
Isaaru: A world without Sin… That is the dream of all Yevon’s children.And we will use that power, even if it means our lives!
Tidus: And I’ve been telling Yuna… Let’s go to Zanarkand together! Let’s beat Sin! I told her all the things we could…we could… And all along, the whole time, I didn’t know anything! But Yuna, she’d…just smile.
I love FFIX more than X.
Plus its a good quote.
For this quote to not make it to at least the semis would be a crime.
I love FFIX more than X.
Plus its a good quote.
I love FFIX more than X.
Plus its a good quote.
I love FFIX more than X.
Plus its a good quote.
First Act: The End of Ugly Desire – 8
She Follows Her Heart – 4
The Prak effect is in effect — FFIX triumphs again and X is out of this rumble. Next up, what I’ll announce now will be the only battle in this round that doesn’t include a IX quote:
Final Fantasy V – The Great Gilgamesh
Necrophobia: Gilgamesh!!
Gilgamesh: Phew! I made it!! If I go home right now, I’ll remain in history as a weakling!
Necrophobia: Heh. Blabbermouth, I’ll get rid of you first!
Gilgamesh: You’re pretty good! You can even defeat, the great Gilgamesh?! Cara, your grandfather, he was a strong man!
Cara: Grandpa.
Gilgamesh: Faris, go fall in love! Then you’d be more feminine!
Faris: …
Gilgamesh: Lenna, never forget you love for animals.
Lenna: …
Gilgamesh: Butz, I would have like to have a one on one battle with you! You were such good friends.
Necrophobia: Gilgamesh, DIE!
Gilgamesh: That’s my line! (He sacrifices himself to finish off Necrophobia.)
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Final Fantasy VI – Excerpt from "Aria di Mezzo Caraterre"
Celes
Oh my hero, so far away now.
Will I ever see your smile?
Love goes away, like night into day.
It’s just a fading dream.
I’m the darkness, you’re the stars.
Our love is brighter than the sun.
For eternity, for me there can be,
Only you, my chosen one…
It’s a battle of the classics! Cast your votes!
The Great Gilgamesh, barely.
The Great Gilgamesh, barely.
The Great Gilgamesh – 8
Excerpt from "Aria di Mezzo Caraterre" – 0
Easy win for the FFV quote, trouncing the FFVI opera scene.
And next…
Final Fantasy IX – What it Really Means to Die
Vivii: Mr. 288 told me that I understand what it means to live and to die… But it’s only because I thought stopping was different from dying… I don’t think I really understand what it means to live and to die. Where do we come from…? Do we go back there when we die…? If that’s what it means to live… I wonder where I came from…? Where will I end up when I die…? Why am I shaking…? What is it that I’m feeling…?
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Final Fantasy X-2 – Respect Points
Rikku: Well I do. I do wanna know more about you.
Paine: What for? Who cares what happened in the past?
Yuna: There was something! Come on, Paine! You can tell us! What happened?
Paine: You disappoint me, Yuna. I thought you were above all that.
Yuna: Well, not anymore. I like asking questions.
Paine: You’ll lose friends.
Yuna: You think so Never mind, then.
Rikku: Aww! And I was looking forward to hearing the good stuff! Confessions of a shady past!
Paine: You’re a pain. Minus four respect points, Rikku.
Rikku: Uh-oh, how many points left?
Paine: Forty-seven.
Rikku: That’s not a whole lot, is it?
ANYWAY, What it Really Means to Die
You can’t beat Mr. Vivi
What it Really Means to Die – 11
Respect Points – 1
An obvious and big-time win for the FFIX quote, which moves on to the semi-finals.
Will it be a clean-sweep for FFIX in the quarter-finals? Let’s find out right now, with this battle:
Final Fantasy V – No Mere Rage Nor Hatred
Galuf: Exdeath!!
Exdeath: Take this.You’ve made me mad! To the world of Death with you!! "Flare" "Holy" "Meteo" Wh-, why won’t you die!
Galuf: Not yet. I can’t die yet. Even if my life burns out. I will defeat you!!
Exdeath: Neither rage nor hatred can defeat me.
Galuf This is no mere rage nor hatred!
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Final Fantasy IX – My Heart is Set
Beatrix: It can’t be… Princess… …So, it was true. The queen really did mean to kill her…
Steiner: WHAT!? No! The queen would never do such a thing!
Beatrix: Steiner, it is time for you to accept the truth. …My heart is set. All this time, I have been mistaken…
Zidane: I hate to say it, but the lady’s right, Rusty. You’d better learn to accept it.
Beatrix: …Citizens of Burmecia, please forgive me.
Freya: It is too late to seek forgiveness! …But you can still save Dagger.
Zidane: Freya…
FFV has proven surprisingly popular in this edition, but does this quote have what it takes to beat this Beatrix dialogue? Cast your votes now!
Respect points lost to that dumb FFIX quote that I hate so much? Darn.
ANYWAY, What it Really Means to Die
you just spoiled Prison Break ๐
No Mere Rage Nor Hatred
No Mere Rage Nor Hatred – 3
My Heart is Set – 5
And once again, FFIX squeaks it out, but it was rather close this time. And here’s how our Semi-Finals look:
<font color="red">Final Fantasy V</font>
The Great Gilgamesh (Eliminated in the Semi-Finals)
<font color="red">Final Fantasy IX</font>
My Heart is Set
What it Really Means to Die (Going on to The Final)
First Act: The End of Ugly Desire
FFIX comes off smelling like a rose again, earning three out of the four coveted semi-final spots. But that doesn’t guarantee yet that it’s going to be an all FFIX final. Let’s decide that now with this battle:
Final Fantasy V – The Great Gilgamesh
Necrophobia: Gilgamesh!!
Gilgamesh: Phew! I made it!! If I go home right now, I’ll remain in history as a weakling!
Necrophobia: Heh. Blabbermouth, I’ll get rid of you first!
Gilgamesh: You’re pretty good! You can even defeat, the great Gilgamesh?! Cara, your grandfather, he was a strong man!
Cara: Grandpa.
Gilgamesh: Faris, go fall in love! Then you’d be more feminine!
Faris: …
Gilgamesh: Lenna, never forget your love for animals.
Lenna: …
Gilgamesh: Butz, I would have like to have a one on one battle with you! You were such good friends.
Necrophobia: Gilgamesh, DIE!
Gilgamesh: That’s my line! (He sacrifices himself to finish off Necrophobia.)
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Final Fantasy IX – What it Really Means to Die
Vivi: Mr. 288 told me that I understand what it means to live and to die… But it’s only because I thought stopping was different from dying… I don’t think I really understand what it means to live and to die. Where do we come from…? Do we go back there when we die…? If that’s what it means to live… I wonder where I came from…? Where will I end up when I die…? Why am I shaking…? What is it that I’m feeling…?
You’ve seen plenty of these quotes by now, you may be even getting somewhat tired of seeing some of them. This is it folks, the final battles before the one that determines our winner. Cast your votes!
I couldnt agree less…
<B>What It Really Means To Die
The Great Gilgamesh – 6
What it Really Means to Die – 8
Looks like it will indeed. That surge of votes for the FFV quote just didn’t quite make it. Well, the FFIX quote seems like it may have a tough time winning the final. But first, we have to find out exactly what it’s up against. So here’s the battle to determine that:
Final Fantasy IX – My Heart is Set
Beatrix: It can’t be… Princess… …So, it was true. The queen really did mean to kill her…
Steiner: WHAT!? No! The queen would never do such a thing!
Beatrix: Steiner, it is time for you to accept the truth. …My heart is set. All this time, I have been mistaken…
Zidane: I hate to say it, but the lady’s right, Rusty. You’d better learn to accept it.
Beatrix: …Citizens of Burmecia, please forgive me.
Freya: It is too late to seek forgiveness! …But you can still save Dagger.
Zidane: Freya…
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Final Fantasy IX – First Act: The End of Ugly Desire
Kuja: I’m not done telling how to make soulless toys out of the dregs of souls!
Zidane: Dregs of souls? You mean Mist!?
Kuja: First, you don’t want to listen, now you start asking questions? Oh, brother… But you’re not ready yet!
Dagger: Why, you– don’t you feel anything!? Taking the lives of so many…
Kuja: Spare me the lecture. Lives come and go all the time. What’s the big deal? Speaking of warmongers, why… what about that mother of yours, Princess? She said she won’t feel alive until she has everything! It breaks my heart to see such greed! The war was my fault? No, no! Your mother wanted it! All I did was give her a little push!
Dagger: Liar! My mother was sweet and kind. You changed her!
Kuja: Mwahaha… So the curtain rises! Perfect, my canary. Let me show you the truth about your mother! First Act: The End of Ugly Desire. It’s showtime!
My Heart is Set
My Heart is Set
First Act: The End of Ugly Desire
:smrt:
Villain dialogue ftw
First Act: The End of Ugly Desire – 7
My Heart is Set – 3
Villain dialogue wins again. Here it is, the final battle, your all-FFIX finale:
Final Fantasy IX – What it Really Means to Die
Vivi: Mr. 288 told me that I understand what it means to live and to die… But it’s only because I thought stopping was different from dying… I don’t think I really understand what it means to live and to die. Where do we come from…? Do we go back there when we die…? If that’s what it means to live… I wonder where I came from…? Where will I end up when I die…? Why am I shaking…? What is it that I’m feeling…?
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Final Fantasy IX – First Act: The End of Ugly Desire
Kuja: I’m not done telling how to make soulless toys out of the dregs of souls!
Zidane: Dregs of souls? You mean Mist!?
Kuja: First, you don’t want to listen, now you start asking questions? Oh, brother… But you’re not ready yet!
Dagger: Why, you– don’t you feel anything!? Taking the lives of so many…
Kuja: Spare me the lecture. Lives come and go all the time. What’s the big deal? Speaking of warmongers, why… what about that mother of yours, Princess? She said she won’t feel alive until she has everything! It breaks my heart to see such greed! The war was my fault? No, no! Your mother wanted it! All I did was give her a little push!
Dagger: Liar! My mother was sweet and kind. You changed her!
Kuja: Mwahaha… So the curtain rises! Perfect, my canary. Let me show you the truth about your mother! First Act: The End of Ugly Desire. It’s showtime!
Vivi is a popular character, but there is quite a bit of support for the other quote. And some pretty strong opposition to the other. Which will triumph? Cast your votes!
Oh, BTW, thoughts on what we could do for the next edition are open again. There was an idea that had been suggested, but it’s on hold for now to give it more time to be worked out. I’ll put my mind to work as well, but in the meantime, if anyone has any thoughts on it. (P.S.: A list of everything we’ve done so far is back in the first post in the thread.)
Vivi is good but I like this one better.
As for ideas Funniest Monster design or Most Dangerous Monster all the Regular Monster not once per game ones.
But Vivi’s got now my support <3 What It Really Means To Die.
But Vivi’s got now my support <3 What It Really Means To Die.
Did we have any Kefka quotes on this rumble?
But Vivi’s got now my support <3 What It Really Means To Die.
It sure appeals to me
What it Really Means to Die ftw!
What it Really Means to Die – 5
First Act: The End of Ugly Desire – 8
It was a good final battle, actually kinda close, but our big winner here is:
<font color="red">First Act: The End of Ugly Desire</font>
<font size="-2" color="wheat">Oh, dear… The princess has such a bloodthirsty little puppet.</font>
All right, well that’s it for that one. Thanks to everyone that participated that time around, and that voted in this last battle. Unless somebody else comes up with a way better idea, I like that idea for a Monster Design rumble, although I think I’ll simplify to simply coolest Monster Design. Assuming that’s what we’re going with, I’ll get it started tomorrow. Until then, anyone that wants can feel free to celebrate or gripe about the results of this edition here.
As for FFVI — yeah, we did have a Kefka quote in this one — his ranting at the end of the game about creating a monument to non-existence. But I think it lost in the first round.
Oh, and one final thought before I go:
Originally Posted by Nuclear Warheads
The Man with the Machine Gun
Huh?!
Huh?!
Thanks Agend, i didnt start voting from the start so i didnt know
Evil Eyeball – Many FF Games
Cactuar – Many FF Games
Mu – Many FF Games
Tonberry – Many FF Games
Malboro – Many FF Games
Behemoth – Many FF Games
Bomb – Many FF Games
Chimera – Many FF Games
Bunnies – Many FF Games
Adamantoise – Many FF Games
Iron Giant – Many FF Games
Ochu – Many FF Games
Flan – Many FF Games
Magic Pot – Many FF Games
Mover – Many FF Games
Bird – Many FF Games
Dinosaur – Many FF Games
Ninjas – Final Fantasy V and VI
Chocobo – Final Fantasy VII and XII
Unknown 2 – Final Fantasy VII
Hexadragon – Final Fantasy VIII
Pupu – Final Fantasy VIII
Yan – Final Fantasy IX
Drakes – Final Fantasy X / X-2
Nomination Spot 1
Nomination Spot 2
Nomination Spot 3
Nomination Spot 4
Nomination Spot 5
Nomination Spot 6
Nomination Spot 7
Nomination Spot 8
A wide variety of beasts, to be sure. Most of them have a tendency to come up time after time, but I’ve tried to include a few that seem more unique. I’ve left quite a few nomination spots, as there are surely quite a few favorites I’ve left out, so remember to make some nominations, unless you just want me to make the rest of the choices! Remember, this list is only here to give you a look at what monsters are going to be battling — for the updated results, you can always check the first post in the thread.
First battle:
Bomb – Many FF Games (Oh my goodness, it’s a bomb! These monsters have appeared in various forms in many Final Fantasies, going at least as far back as FFV, though possibly earlier. Bombs in Final Fantasy games often have a short fuse and will explode, heavily damaging your characters and robbing you of a proper victory, if you don’t defeat them fast enough. These monsters also often have a tendency to attack in packs. As far as their design goes, they have appeared in various colors and some types of mutated bombs can become quite huge.)
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Magic Pots (Ah, these little critters. A friend to many FF players. Generally, you give them an elixir and then you can attack them with impunity to receive a bounty of EXP / AP / gil, etc. The rewards and what you have to do can vary from game to game. Monster design, looks like, well, a fancifully colored pot. And within it is a little gremlin. [And not a drug with mystical properties, as one might think. :D])
Remember, you are voting on what you think of the overall monster design for that type of monster.
As for nominations, how about Stropers? They were in V and IX if I recall, maybe more. Or gold old Bandersnatch the dog.
I like their sinister smirks!
As for some enemy nominations, I have the following for you!:
Sand Worms (or are they called Land Worms?)- multiple FFs
Nymphs – FFIX
Coeurl – multiple FFs
Elvoret – FFVIII
Bomb – 7
Magic Pot – 3
A fairly easy win for the "Bomb" monster. It goes on to the second round.
Next up:
Cactuar – Many FF Games (The cactuar is one of those iconic Final Fantasy creatures. It is sometimes a foe, but can be friendly from time-to-time as well. Cactuars generally look sort of like mini-cactuses, almost kinda cute at times. But some of them have the potential to grow to massive size. Known for their "1000 Needles" attack, or the far-more-dangerous "10000 Needles" for some of their larger counterparts.)
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Chimera – Many FF Games (This colorful creature has three heads. The three heads grant it a fierce ability set. Their size can vary based on the type of the creature. Hagrid from the Harry Potter series once expressed a desire to have one of these as a pet.)
http://agent0042.fileburst.com/ffchim.gif
Thanks to those that have posted nominations so far! If anyone else has any others, or would like to second any that have been made, please do post them with your vote!
Remember, you are voting on what you think of the overall monster design for that type of monster.
Woot for simpleness!
Woot for simpleness!
Woot for simpleness!
Classic. Total Classic.
Chimeras were in X too right?
nomination – Tiamat…i loved this monster!
Its pretty strange how they are stuck in that position though.
Woot for simpleness!
And now, the results on this battle:
Cactuar – 14
Chimera – 2
Chimera (which yes, was in X) couldn’t overcome the massive popularity of the Cactuar which moves easily into the second round. All right, we continue. Next up:
Ochu – Many FF Games (These nasty suckers are a sort of giant mutated plant. They’re tentacled and can inflict multiple status effects. They’re large, overgrown, and can prove a significant challenge / obstacle.)
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Yan – Final Fantasy IX (I guess it looks sort of like a little pug dog with horns? This was one of several monsters in FFIX that also came in a "friendly" variety. But when it’s not friendly, don’t be fooled by appearances. It’s a vicious brute with powerful attacks and magic and the ability to expel characters from battle.)
http://agent0042.fileburst.com/yan.gif
Remember, you are voting on what you think of the overall monster design for that type of monster.
agreed – but ochu nonetheless
LOL. Nicely put. Yan because in groups they seriously kick ass.
Ochu – 3
Yan – 10
Heh, the "poor man’s Malboro." Yan wins big-time, but it wasn’t quite a blowout as it was beginning to look like it was going to be.
It’s time for another battle. This one will be:
Tonberry – Many FF Games (This harbinger of death usually carries a knife and/or a lantern. Greenish and ominous, this is another of those iconic Final Fantasy monsters.)
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Pupu – Final Fantasy VIII (Ah, now here’s a funny one. This little alien crashed its spaceship after you chase after it in several battles. You can either fight it, or help it out. It’s a weird, but kinda cute little blue alien thing.)
EDIT – Thanx for that Trent ๐
:smrt:
And another is I watched the Crazy Boris flash movies.
Plus Doink is just funny.
Tonberry – 14
Pupu – 2
Our little alien friend got some support, but Tonberry was the run-away favorite here and easily sails to the second round, looking strong for future rounds.
And our next battle:
Bunny – Many FF Games (Bunnies have actually popped up as monsters in a number of FF games. Sometimes they will heal you, but they can also be hostile. As far as appearance goes, they are often very cute. But they can also have an evil look to them at times. I know bunnies in battle in at least four FF games — VI, VII, XI and XII.)
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Bird – Many FF Games (Now here’s a rather general classification. Birds have popped up in a number of forms in battle in FF games. They range from massive winged beasts, to small, nimble winged sorts. Some of them have some very complex and varied designs.)
Bird is too broad a category. The Vorpal bunny is winning my vote all by itself.
Bird is too broad a category.
Bunny – 7
Bird – 5
Bunny takes this one, but Bird put up a much better fight than expected.
Adamantoise – Many FF Games (These massive tortoises have been around in many FF games. They are generally large, well-armored, and can sometimes come in various forms. This type of monster classification is also sometimes referred to as "land turtle.")
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Hexadragon – Final Fantasy VIII (Dragons come in so many forms in Final Fantasy, but rather than trying to lump this into one category, I just picked out this memorable dragon. This unusual dragon has six eyes and is otherwise blue and black. [Note that the one in the picture has suffered an unfortunate run-in with Odin.])
P.S.: If somebody that has the PC version of Final Fantasy VII could grab me a screenshot of the Unknown 2 in the crashed Gelnika plane, I’d be very appreciative. I have the PC version, but it’s not currently installed on my system.
Adamantoise – 4
Hexadragon – 9
Wow, Adamantoise is something of a classic, I expected that one to win, but Hexadragon gets a fairly big win there. It moves on to the second round.
And the next battle will be:
Evil Eyeball – Many FF Games (It’s an ugly floating eyeball thing. Some of them have wings.)
http://agent0042.fileburst.com/ffeye.JPG
vs.
Unknown 2 – Final Fantasy VII (A monster on the crashed Gelnika plane. It’s a weird-looking flowing thing with tentacles sticking out of its head, a long neck and a plump bottom.)
(Thanks to Enya for taking care of the image for me!)
But I hate those things, so I wuv them.
๐
Just to reiterate, that is the idea. This edition is supposed be for Coolest Monster Design — no other considerations are relevant. All right, carry on.
Evil Eyeball – 6
Unknown 2 – 7
Very, very close on that one. The FFVII monster goes on the second round. And next up:
Iron Giant – Many FF Games (The iron giant is a large armored giant with a cleaver. They sometimes show up in pairs and are sometimes have additional decorations, based on their type.)
vs.
Chocobo – Final Fantasy VII and XII (The chocobo is a friend to many an FF player, but this birdie can also show up in battle. I think pretty much every FF fan knows in general what a chocobo looks like. In FFVII, you had to battle them to capture them. In FFXII, you can fight them in battle on the field and a couple also show up as Marks / Rare Game.)
http://agent0042.fileburst.com/ffchoc.gif
Remember, you are only voting based on what you think of the overall design of the monster, as it appears in battles throughout Final Fantasies.
Cute, fluffy, and adorable.
Cute, fluffy, and adorable.
Cute, fluffy, and adorable.
Iron Giant – 10
Chocobo – 7
When it comes to design, the Iron Giant beats the chocobo in the voting.
All right, we’re starting to get down to the wire here for this round, but we’ve still got a little bit to go. Beginning after this battle, I’m going to start mixing in nominations, so this is your final chance to make a nomination. Remember, only normal monsters, no bosses/special battles.
Flan – Many FF Games (Colorful, amorphous, squishy blob monsters. They come in many different colors and sort of wobble and slink. They range in size very small to ridiculously large.)
vs.
Mover – Many FF Games (They generally come in packs of three. They are spherical and often orange.)
One person did…
But poor movers….
<< Flan.
Flan – 18
Mover – 1
Folks turned out in droves to vote for the squishy goodness that is the flan — it speeds on to the second round. Next up is:
Mu – Many FF Games (The Mu is a sort of little squirrel / fairy-like creature that has appeared in several FFs. It’s small and can be kind of cute. In FFXII it’s actually considered a sort of dreamhare, but it can’t rightly be classed as a bunny overall.)
vs.
Bandersnatch – Final Fantasy V and IX (A nominated choice. A massive, weird shaggy dog-type creature with a curly tail. Random trivia — the name of the Bandersnatch originates from the work of Lewis Carroll and this was not the only FFIX monster to have that honor — the Jabberwock(y) appears as well. Some guides I have seen also consider to be monsters such as the Kalm Fangs from FFVII to be a form of this monster.)
Bandersnatches are creepy.
Mu – 7
Bandersnatch – 10
Mu battled fairly well throughout, but the Bandersnatch just had more support and goes on to the second round.
And next battle is:
Coeurl (Many FF Games) (This panther-like monster has been in many Final Fantasies. It is whiskered and sleek in design.)
vs.
Elnoyle (Final Fantasy VIII) (This sinister looking monster hangs around in Esthar following the influx of monsters from the moon. It is winged and has horns.)
Coeurl – 12
Elnoyle – 5
Elnoyle really pulled back a bit towards the end there, but it wasn’t nearly enough. The "constipated imp" never really stood a chance, Coeurl moves on to the second round easily.
Next up:
Malboro – Many FF Games (No wannabe here. This is the Malboro. The evil-looking green plant thing with big teeth.)
vs.
Ninjas – Final Fantasy V and VI (They look like, well, ninjas. I guess we could include VII as well if you count Yuffie, who you can battle.)
Oh, based on some of the comments I saw, I think I’d better be more diligent about posting this reminder:
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Ninjas are way cooler than Pirates, ftr.
Malboro – 9
Ninja – 0
A quick and easy clean sweep. Let’s see how things progress with this next battle, however:
Behemoth – Many FF Games (The large, hulking Behemoth has been a staple throughout Final Fantasies. Some are larger than others and come in various colorings and markings, but overall they all share the same basic form.)
vs.
Nymph – Final Fantasy IX (It’s well, a little blue nymph. She also appears in a friendly form that’s green.)
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Just me? okay =)
theres pretty much nothing designwise to the Nympth.
Behemoth for this one.
Behemoth – 17
Nymph – 1
Not even really a contest, the Nymph was only able to muster up one vote. Behemoth roars on to the second round and we move on to this battle:
Worm – Many FF Games (I remember these appearing specifically in VI, VIII and X/X-2 and probably in other FFs as well. They generally are rather massive with big teeth.)
http://agent0042.fileburst.com/ffworm.gif
vs.
Lamia – Many FF Games (This is a sort of large, snake-like thing. Except it has an enchanting female human head. It’s appeared in several FFs, including IV, V, IX and XI.)
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Worm – 10
Lamia – 8
Following a string of early votes for Worm, Lamia just couldn’t recover, but put up quite a fight. So it’s Worm on the second round for best design.
We continue with…
Dinosaur – Many FF Games (Dinosaur-type monsters have been seen in several FFs, but perhaps most notably FFVI. Many will also remember FFVIII’s T-Rexaur [pictured].)
vs.
Zombie – Many FF Games (Ghouls, zombies, whatever you may call them — a very, very common monster class. These undead humanoid, ghoulish monsters roam around, harassing your party. I don’t think their appearance really varies much from game-to-game.)
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Dinosaur just because it looks ferocious.
Dinosaur!
Dinosaur!
Dinosaur – 10
Zombie – 2
Dinosaur easily the more popular choice, it goes on to the second round. And it just so happens that we’ve very nearly reached it. Here comes the last battle of the first round:
Stroper – Final Fantasy V and IX (A massive many-tentacled monster. A nominated choice. Pictured via Tetra Master card.)
vs.
Drake – Final Fantasy X / X-2 (From Lesser Drake to Elder Drake, these sort-of dragonish monsters appeared in X / X-2. They may have appeared in others as well, but I only really recall them in those games. Spiky horns and a sharp tail too. Definitely vicious looking.)
Which will be final entrant into the second round? Cast your votes, but…
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Stroper – 5
Drake – 11
Stroper with some support, but Drake the favorite here. It makes the second round, and here it is:
Remember, this list is only for reference as we start this new round. The updated results are on the very first post in the thread. First battle of the second round:
Cactuar – Many FF Games
Tonberry – Many FF Games
Malboro – Many FF Games
Behemoth – Many FF Games
Bomb – Many FF Games
Bunny – Many FF Games
Iron Giant – Many FF Games
Flan – Many FF Games
Dinosaur – Many FF Games
Unknown 2 – Final Fantasy VII
Hexadragon – Final Fantasy VIII
Yan – Final Fantasy IX
Worm – Many FF Games
Coeurl – Many FF Games
Bandersnatch – Final Fantasy IX
Drake – Final Fantasy X / X-2
The same pictures as before are once again provided for reference.
Behemoth – Many FF Games
vs.
Yan
http://agent0042.fileburst.com/yan.gif
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Unknown 2 – 7
Drake – 7
Great battle. After falling way behind there, the design for Drake came back magnificently. Well, we’re at a tie situation and in the second round, we look back to the results from the first round to break the tie. Let’s see…
Unknown 2 – 7/13 – 54%
Drake – 11/16 – 69%
Drake wins the tie-breaker and heads to the quarter-finals, though it’ll be an uphill battle for it to last much longer than that.
So next, we have:
Cactuar – Many FF Games
vs.
Flan – Many FF Games
Cactuars are very popular, but flans can’t be counted out either. Let’s see how this goes. Cast your votes and…
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
It’s also much pleasing to look on than some giant glob of… whatever it is.
Cactuar – 10
Flan – 6
Actually almost kinda close there. Fair few votes for the design of the Flan, but the Cactuar was just way too popular and moves on to the quarter-finals.
Our next match is:
Bomb – Many FF Games
vs.
Hexadragon – Final Fantasy VIII
Bomb – 10
Hexadragon – 2
Very little love for the many-eyed FF8 dragon there.
Still a few battles left before the Quarter-Finals. We’re getting fairly close, though. Right now, we have:
Iron Giant – Many FF Games
vs
Coeurl – Many FF Games
I forgot to put this last time, though I think most everyone voting is fully aware of it right now. As always, it’s just for those that come in sometimes and don’t seem to be entirely aware of what they should be voting on:
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
If not Iron Giant
Iron Giant – 8
Coeurl – 3
Iron Giant the clear favorite against the cat-like monster, it moves on to the Quarter Finals. And we have three battles left before getting to those, and here’s the first of them:
Malboro – Many FF Games
vs.
Worm – Many FF Games
http://agent0042.fileburst.com/ffworm.gif
Malboro is very popular — I wouldn’t be surprised to see a blowout here, but you never know. Cast your votes and as we’ve been doing with this edition:
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Go Malboros!
Malboro – 14
Worm – 1
No competition here, really, the Malboro clearly the favorite here for overall design and moves to the quarter-finals. Next we have:
Bunny – Many FF Games
vs.
Bandersnatch – Final Fantasy IX
Plus they are better enemies anyways
Bandersnatches are a little too common.
Or a giant brainless lizard swallowing you in one gulp?
Tonberry.
Dinosaur – 1
Yeah, needless to say, the design of the Tonberry is popular. And that ends the second round and brings us into our quarter-finals. This is what’s left:
Cactuar – Many FF Games
Tonberry – Many FF Games
Malboro – Many FF Games
Behemoth – Many FF Games
Bomb – Many FF Games
Iron Giant – Many FF Games
Bandersnatch – Final Fantasy IX
Drake – Final Fantasy X / X-2
First battle of the quarter-finals is:
Cactuar – Many FF Games
vs.
Bomb – Many FF Games
I think we could do with this reminder again:
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
It’s cute.
Behemoth – 13
Drake – 7
A fairly good battle, actually, but the Behemoth was rather more popular in the end. Next up:
Tonberry – Many FF Games
vs.
Iron Giant – Many FF Games
Tonberry has been a popular choice from the beginning, but the Iron Giant could be solid competition. Let’s see how this goes…
(Edited because I forgot to put in the pictures before.)
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Iron giants were expected, but little animal holding knife about same size? Scary.
Seriously "DOINK" is the greatest noise to go with a stabbity action :P.
Tonberry – 13
Iron Giant – 7
Tonberry the not-very-surprising favorite, but Iron Giant had support throughout. Our final battle of the Quarter Finals:
Malboro
vs.
Bandersnatch
Another one that seems to have a clear favorite. But could Bandersnatch pull out an upset victory? Cast your votes!
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
They make cute bite your head off.
For breakfast.
Malboro even though I hate the bastards in game.
Malboro – 11
Bandersnatch – 5
A late flurry of votes for Bandersnatch couldn’t stop the tide for Malboro. We’ve reached the semi-finals, and here they are:
Cactuar – Many FF Games
Tonberry – Many FF Games
Malboro – Many FF Games
Behemoth – Many FF Games
I think this end-game here should be interesting. All of these choices have been fairly popular and three out of the four are iconic. The first battle is:
Cactuar – Many FF Games
vs.
Malboro – Many FF Games
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Come to think of it, Malboro fairly resemble the local Springfield psychiatrist, Dr. Marvin Monroe.
Think I’ll pick Malboro
That’s why Malboro wins.
Molboro I guess.
I still love cactuar though.
Cactuar – 3
Malboro – 11
Malboro an easy choice for the final battle, but will it have such an easy time against the winner of this semi-final?
Tonberry – Many FF Games
vs.
Behemoth – Many FF Games
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Ive always wondered if it was supposed to be a turtle.
Tonberry – 9
Behemoth – 5
It’s Tonberry in the final battle by several votes. And here’s that final battle now:
Tonberry – Many FF Games
vs.
Malboro – Many FF Games
Both of these have been very popular throughout. But which is the ultimate winner. Cast your votes, keeping in mind that…
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
But I wuv Tonberry. ๐
Malboro
I propose a bonus battle between Great Malboro and Mega Tonberry.
Tonberry – 6
Malboro – 7
Malboro
Our winner by just one vote!
I propose a bonus battle between Great Malboro and Mega Tonberry.
Anyone else for this? I don’t mind doing it, just for fun.
good idea
Now what else are we lacking?
Jumbo Cactuar
(Well, you guys know the score. It’s a massive cactus. It’s got a mustache thing going.)
vs.
Behemoth King
(Sorry I couldn’t get a bigger picture. It’s a larger, more fearsome version of your standard Behemoth. I must say, it definitely looks impressive.)
http://agent0042.fileburst.com/ffbking.gif
Oh, and we’re still doing this:
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
I mean, the mustache, man, the mustache. Also, custom Renzokuken animation.
At least you can hug it without getting spiked with needles.
Jumbo Cactuar – 4
Behemoth King – 5
Wow! An upset! So it’s Behemoth King as the winner of that battle and next we have:
Mega Tonberry
(The Mega Tonberry is seen in Final Fantasy X-2. There’s also the Tonberry King from Final Fantasy VIII. Anyway, this sucker is massive. Huge, colossal tonberry.)
vs.
Great Malboro
(Twisting things up a bit by pairing up these here. But honestly, the Great Malboro really doesn’t look all that different from your standard Malboro.)
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Also, :puppydog: ๐ ๐ R.I.P. Jumbo Cactuar.
Mega Tonberry.
Mega Tonberry – 12
Great Malboro – 1
A landslide victory for Mega Tonberry. And next up is:
Let’s do this next:
Elder Drake
(This ultra big-drake can really get in your way in X-2’s Via Infinito. It’s the biggest Drake you’ll ever see. I couldn’t come up with a picture, but I think anyone that has encountered this one will probably remember it.)
vs.
Lv. 99 Red Chocobo
(This elusive chocobo in FFXII can be really hard to find. Very rare chance of showing up. So I’m wondering if it even has a shot. Especially given that there are still many folks here that haven’t played XII or haven’t cracked a lot of its secrets yet. Perhaps the fact that I was able to come up with a picture on this one will provide a slight advantage…)
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Elder Drake – 7
Lv. 99 Red Chocobo – 2
Very easy win for the Elder Drake. All right, this is here is going to be the last battle of this round, then we move straight into semi-finals for this little mini-edition:
Ruby Dragon (I just didn’t feel right not having a proper dragon in this. So let’s try this again with Ruby Dragon. You are required to fight this massive dragon at least once in Final Fantasy VIII. Kiros and Ward are supposed to wear a costume of it, but instead, the real deal shows up. A couple of these suckers also guard the way to Bahamut, and ultimately, Ultima Weapon.)
vs.
Grand Dragon (Ah, all right, tricked ya’. So one good dragon deserves another. This particular dragon, "Grand," can be fought in two different locations in FFIX. It’s great for leveling up, though, remember, of course, what you’re voting on.)
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Didn’t like how the Grand Dragon looked so ordinary.
I just find Grand Dragon’s overall design to be very dull, and it’s an almost classic representation of what dragons are thought of appearing as, in most people’s minds.
When I had first saw a Grand Dragon in FFIX, I didn’t think: "Wow! That’s a groovy design." It was more along the lines of: "Okay, I’m dead now (at least the dragon looked tough), and to think, they’ve piqued my interest after all those Kupo Nuts that were given to them by me."
I’m not a fan of dragons in the first place, so yeah, bias won in the end.
Ruby Dragon – 9
Grand Dragon – 2
Solid win there for the Ruby Dragon. So here’s the tote-board for that round:
Jumbo Cactuar
Behemoth King
Mega Tonberry
Great Malboro
Lv. 99 Red Chocobo
Elder Drake
Ruby Dragon
Grand Dragon
And now, straight into the semi-finals for this edition:
Behemoth King
vs.
Ruby Dragon
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2789/behemothkingiz0.gif
*Small pixels to keep it a fair match.
Yet again, I’m gonna have to vote for Ruby Dragon on this one, Agent0042.
I’ve never been too fond of any Behemoths, regarding design and other aspects.
I’ve never been too fond of any Behemoths, regarding design and other aspects.
I somehow missed that rumble, and to think, I would’ve voted for the Canseco-like cactus.
x2.
And our results on this one:
Behemoth King – 3
Ruby Dragon – 5
๐ For the ‘stache. Ruby Dragon squeaks that one out. Our other semi-final:
Mega Tonberry
vs.
Elder Drake
Next update will be Tuesday because of the holiday.
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Oh yeah, Mega Tonberry.
On a side note: np, Agent.
Mega Tonberry – 13
Elder Drake – 0
A total blowout. Elder Drake gets the old goose-egg — not a single vote. And now, the final battle of this special edition:
Mega Tonberry
vs.
Ruby Dragon
Malboro won the award for coolest monster design, but which of these will take the special class? Will it be another walkover for Mega Tonberry, or does the Ruby Dragon have what it takes? Cast your votes!
Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster’s overall appearance / design.
Uhhh.
Umm.
Mega Tonberry gets the vote.
Mega Tonberry in all likleyhood will be the one I vote through all the way.
DOINK!
I like the stitches and the robes and the lantern. :]
Ruby Dragon – 2
Doink! Tonberry lost the general edition for monster design, but our winner for special class:
Mega Tonberry
And so another edition comes to a thrilling close. What’s next? Dunno yet, though I have a few vague ideas I’m kicking around. In any case, the next edition will start this coming Monday evening, so get ready!
You haven’t been around long, huh? :p
EDIT: Don’t forget Ozma.
Anyway, yeah, optional bosses sounds like it could work. I’ve been trying to avoid things that were done back in the old "Champions" Rumble that we used to have going here, but I don’t think that one ever did optional bosses. So we could do that. All right, yeah, let’s go. If anyone has any other nominations, post them between now and Monday evening. Things get started then, so if you don’t nominate, I just add in stuff myself to round things out.
Emerald was optional… right? > > < <
EDIT: That’s a little misleading. Omegas are not all automatically in. VII’s Omega (officially in Dirge of Cerberus) isn’t optional.
Sure. Let’s just not go overboard on the Monster Arena "bosses," okay? Otherwise, I have no problem with it.
I suppose you could do the dark aeons in X seperately, but many won’t know them, and people would choose the higher dark aeons over the lower dark aeons (dark bahamut over dark ixion for example). Definately put penance in though.
This is the second time my idea has turned into a rumble ๐ excellent.
Anyway, absolute last chance for nominations before I start things up later tonight. So if anyone still has any…
Omega – Final Fantasy V
Shinryu – Final Fantasy V
Ruby Weapon – Final Fantasy VII
Emerald Weapon – Final Fantasy VII
Ultima Weapon – Final Fantasy VIII
Omega Weapon – Final Fantasy VIII
Ozma – Final Fantasy IX
Hades – Final Fantasy IX
Quale – Final Fantasy IX
Tantarian – Final Fantasy IX
Shinryu – Final Fantasy X (Monster Arena)
Nemesis – Final Fantasy X (Monster Arena)
Penance – Final Fantasy X (International)
Trema – Final Fantasy X-2
Angra Mainyu – Final Fantasy X-2
Paragon – Final Fantasy X-2
Yes, I know a couple choices were left out, but I decided to go with only sixteen because I didn’t have enough material to make 32 and there were some choices that weren’t mentioned that I thought were important inclusions. Well, let’s get going with the first battle:
Emerald Weapon – Final Fantasy VII (A WEAPON released by the Planet, storming the seas of Final Fantasy VII. Available only by running into with your submarine. Those that have fought this menace are almost certainly aware of its Aire Tam Storm, a powerful attack that always does 9999 damage to all three members of your party. Or does it? Astute observers will note that "Aire Tam" is actually "materia" backwards. The attack does 1111 damage for each materia orb a character has equipped. Emerald is made up of several sections and its other attacks include Emerald Shoot, Emerald Beam, Revenge Stomp and powerful attacks from "eyes" that can drain both HP and MP. P.S.: You are limited in the time you have to fight this battle unless you equip the "Underwater" materia. And for winning, you receive the Earth Harp, which you can exchange for a set of Master Materia.)
vs.
Tantarian – Final Fantasy IX (A monster in a book, the Tantarian in FFIX is something of a throwback, one of the game’s many nostalgic references to past FFs. In this case, the "Page" monsters found in the Library of the Ancients in Final Fantasy V. Anyway, the Tantarian can be something of a tough nut to crack, especially if you choose to take it on the first of two times it’s available to battle. Tantarian uses the attacks Paper Storm, Edge, Doom and Poison. It’s best to try to get it to reveal its physical form and then attack with magic. It has several valuable items to steal.)
I’m interested to see how this one goes. The Emerald Weapon seems like a shoo-in from a pure power standpont, but FFIX has a lot of fans here and the Tantarian may be a surprise favorite. Cast your votes!
Also, Omega Weapon in Dirge of Cerberus (not VII proper) is NOT optional, as previously noted.
My hubby. 0:]
That was awful wasn’t it?
Seriously because of Running Shoes being a big help early in the game and the method in which you had to defeat it was pretty interesting.
Emerald Weapon – 7
Tantarian – 7
Wow, first battle and first tie. Well, when there’s a tie in the first round, we go to a coin-toss, as was determined a while back. So it’ll be heads for Emerald Weapon, tails for Tantarian. And we have… tails. So Tantarian it is.
Also, Omega Weapon in Dirge of Cerberus (not VII proper) is NOT optional, as previously noted.
Fixed. I meant to put Ultima Weapon, but then I realized that one isn’t technically optional either, since you have to fight it at least once. So I just went with FFVIII’s Ultima Weapon instead.
My hubby. 0:]
Interesting. I always thought of Emerald Weapon as vaguely female, myself. After all, ships at sea and stuff are supposed to be female. But whatever.
Anyway, next battle…
Omega Weapon – Final Fantasy VIII (Omega is feared for his most powerful attack — the incredibly damaging Terra Break. It can also use the Medigo Flame, which is 9998 damage on all, and Gravija. Not to mention it always starts the battle with L5 Death. And that’s only some of its attacks. You don’t really get much for winning this battle, other than Three Stars and the Proof of Omega.)
vs.
Trema – Final Fantasy X-2 (The final boss of this game’s Via Infinito dungeon. Trema has 999,999 HP and is an incredibly fast attacker. He has a swift set of physical attacks, including one that can cause Stop status. He also has access to powerful magic such as Meteor and Ultima. Common strategies against him involve draining his MP so he can’t use the powerful magic. For winning this battle, you receive the amazingly powerful accessory Iron Duke.)
Fittest old guy this side of Jack La Lanne.
I had so many Problems in the Via Infinito dungeon on X2.
Omega Weapon – 13
Trema – 3
Rather a walkover there, but not a complete shutout. The unsent Yevonite had a few supporters, but FFVIII’s powerful Omega Weapon blasted its way to the second round.
And our next thrilling conflict:
Quale – Final Fantasy IX (Currently paired up with Vivi over in the FFIX Rumble, Quale is also competing here as an optional boss. In order to fight Quale, you have to use Quina to catch 99 frogs within Gaia’s various Qu’s Marshes. Once you’ve done this, Quale will appear and engage Quina and the rest of your active party in a battle. This fight isn’t quite as easy it may seem though. Of particular interest is that Quale has some awesome items to steal, including the rare Robe of Lords. Quale can inflict various status effects such as Mini, Confuse and Silence. S/he has 65535 HP and also uses water-based attacks. Still, s/he shouldn’t be too tough if you’re well-prepared. You receive an Elixir for beating hir, as well as the Bistro Fork. Defeating hir "completes" this particular sidequest, though you’re welcome to keep catching frogs.)
vs.
Shinryu – Final Fantasy X (Monster Arena) (Shinryu is an underwater boss available as unlockable creation in Final Fantasy X’s monster arena. As an underwater battle, you’re required to fight this using Tidus, Wakka and Rikku. Shinryu counterattacks with a powerful claw after being attacked. Shinryu’s most vicious attack is Eraser, which petrifies a character. And since you’re underwater, that character gets shattered. Otherwise, it just uses a normal attack and attack called Shining that hits all three characters for random damage. Did I mention that it has 2 million HP? You get 30 Megalixirs just for unlocking it. You can steal Gambler’s Spirit or Three Stars from it and winning the battle grants you the powerful Wings to Discovery.)
If it was Shinryu from V on the otherhand…
Another underwater battle that scares the pants off of me. Plus that Petrify attack is wicked. I cant remember if you can counteract it or not.
Another underwater battle that scares the pants off of me. Plus that Petrify attack is wicked. I cant remember if you can counteract it or not.
Ribbon is the only foolproof way, other anti-petrify things don’t work, and you can’t heal if they get petrified in water.
Shinryu
Quale – 6
Shinryu – 6
And we have another tie. This is getting to be like a habit. All right, heads for Quale, tails for Shinryu, and we have… whaddya know. Heads it is. So it’s Quale to the second round. Must say, much better battle than I expected. I wasn’t sure how much support Quale had.
Well, on we go, next battle…
Omega – Final Fantasy V (FFV’s Omega. I’m not sure, but I think this may have been the first-ever Omega. Its attacks include Surge Beam, Atomic Ray, Malestrom, Delta Attack and Circle, among many. It has a wide variety of attacks and is definitely an extremely powerful foe, especially if you’re not prepared. In particular, you want to guard against fire damage. For beating it, you receive 100 ABP, 50000 gil and the Omega Medal. P.S.: There’s an even more powerful version in FFV Advance, but I’m not covering Advance here because so many people [including myself] haven’t played it yet. Of course, there are plenty that haven’t played V anyway, but whatever. Their loss.)
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Ruby Weapon – Final Fantasy VII (It terrorizes the sands surrounding the Gold Saucer. It can use Whirlsand to remove characters from the battle, but you can avoid this by going in with two characters KOed. It can do counteratttacks and also access to the Enemy Skill Shadow Flare. It also often uses Comet2 and can counterattack Knights of the Round with Ultima. However, a common strategy for beating Ruby involves W-Summoning KoTR in conjunction with Hades, which is surprising effective at stopping Ruby Weapon cold. For winning, you receive the Desert Rose, which can be exchanged for a craptastic gold chocobo. And a bunch of AP/EXP, etc. etc.)
Also, if Ruby Weapon were a Transformer, I could imagine its transformation being that of VIII’s Ragnarok, and that’s worthy of a win in itself.
Also, if Ruby Weapon were a Transformer, I could imagine its transformation being that of VIII’s Ragnarok, and that’s worthy of a win in itself.
Also, if Ruby Weapon were a Transformer, I could imagine its transformation being that of VIII’s Ragnarok, and that’s worthy of a win in itself.
Ruby Weapon cuz already one Omega has gone through.
Only Becuase of this. I never fought Omega. Shhhhhhhh. please dont tell anyone. I am a Final Fantasy Fan, I truly am. Cant a guy make one mistake….. Hun? Dont judge me! Dont you Dare Judge me!
Omega – 4
Ruby Weapon – 5
VII’s Weapon wins this time, just narrowly. All right, and next up:
Penance – Final Fantasy X (International) (It has 12 million HP and for the most part, top flight stats. [Exceptions being a Luck of only 10 and an Evasion of 0.] It also has two arms with 500,000 HP each. You have to defeat all of the dark aeons before you can fight it. Its attacks include Judgement Day, Oblieration and Imoliation. Oh, and it has a second form too. It’s a long, drawn out fight and obviously some major strategy is involved. And a lot of grinding character-building in order to even stand a shot. Big disadvantage — International isn’t available except by import in the United States, so many have never faced this sucker.)
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Angra Mainyu – Final Fantasy X-2 (This menace prowls the sands of the Bikanel Desert in X-2. Though it shows up before then, you can’t officially defeat it until Chapter 5. A monster sealed by the cactuars in the ancient past, it has risen again to take advantage. You gather the ten Gatekeepers to raise the Great Habib, but it simply turns its menace on the Al Bhed camp. It has 333,444 HP, 9999 MP and a variety of sinister attacks. Its most powerful attack is the dreadful Perdition’s Flame, which hits all of your characters multiple times. It also has access to Flare, Demi and Bio among others. Oh, and let’s not forget that it has two extensions — Tawrich and Zarich. Tawrich’s Bloody Breath causes multiple status ailments and Zarich has Glimmer of Despair, which reduces both MP and character stats. All three parts move extremely fast. Even if you kill off Tawrich and Zarich, Mainyu has the ability to restore them with Full-Life and can also cure them.)
Penance – 6
Angra Mainyu – 2
So, despite the disadvantage of being from a game that a lot of people don’t have access to, Penance goes on to the second round. We’re more than halfway through, but we still have a few battles left. Let’s continue with:
Shrinyu – Final Fantasy V (It’s Level 97 and has 55,500 HP. Its attacks include Maelstrom, Tidal Wave, a powerful physical attack, Snowstorm and several blue magics. A standard strategy against is to equip Coral Rings and two-hand Dragon Lances, then simply leap and crush it. Anticlimactic, really, but it polishes him off instantly. For winning, you get the Dragon Seal and Ragnarok.)
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Hades – Final Fantasy IX (An optional boss along a secret path in Memoria. He has 55535 HP and is Level 92. Hades has several useful items to steal — Robe of Lords, Battle Boots, Running Shoes and Reflect Ring. For winning, you get Elixir and Wing Edge. Hades has access to Curse [multiple status ailments]. He also uses Vivi’s most powerful magic — Doomsday. His Cleave attack hits for powerful physical damage and Judgment Sword reduces a single characters’ HP to 1. An interesting thing to note is that Hades will know if you have already beaten Ozma, and seem, well, rather shaken about it. If you beat Hades, he opens the best synthesis shop in the game. Here, you can synthesis the Pumice, Save the Queen, the tin Armor and other such items.)
Shrinyu doesn’t even come close to Hades’s difficulty.
Shrinyu doesn’t even come close to Hades’s difficulty.That’s like saying the bosses in FFI are harder than fighting the dungeon monsters leading to them, but I guess it all depends on your party’s levels.
Come back with these stupid comments once you’ve figured it all.
Here, I’m in a good mood so I’ll help you a bit: Thread 27567
Hades.
Shinryu (Yeah, I know, I misspelled it, before.) – 2
Hades – 8
A walkover, pretty much. Hades is on to the second round, but the dragon boss from FFV at least had a bit of support. Two battles left in this round. First up:
Ultima Weapon – Final Fantasy VIII (I suppose FFVIII’s Ultima Weapon is something of a warmup act for Omega, but that’s not to say it’s not a reasonably tough battle. Its best move is Light Pillar, which instantly KOs a single character. [9999 damage] It also uses Gravija, Ultima, Meteor, Quake and a fairly strong physical attack. Its weakness its low HP, which allows it to be taken out fairly quickly. But as it’s at the bottom of the Deep Sea Research Center, it’s quite a chore just getting to it. You can draw the GF Eden from it. Additionally, it has the magic Ultima available to draw, so you may want to take the opportunity to stock up. For winning, there’s a high, but not 100% certain chance that you’ll receive 100 Ultima Stones.)
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Paragon – Final Fantasy X-2 (A weapon-type monster in Cloister Infinity of Bevelle’s Via Infinito. Most dangerous attack is Big Bang, which can do 99,999 damage to YRP. Definitely to be avoided. Also uses Genesis and other powerful attacks. Interestingly, like the other weapons in this game, this sucker has an Oversoul form that behaves rather differently from the normal form. You have to face this before fighting Trema. Oh, you can learn the Blue Bullet Supernova. And if you return to Cloister Infinity, it’ll be there to face again.)
Abstain. I guess.
I was, for the most part, not impressed with VIII’s Ultima Weapon at all, seeing as how I defeated it on only one try, and as Agent pointed out, its low HP is a major weakness, so the battle is a breeze (or it should be), esp. at that point in the game.
Paragon’s not necessarily tough either, but at least it takes a semblance of effort to defeat it. Plus, its design is much cooler than any other Weapon-type I’ve seen, and the FMV of Trema owning its ass gives Paragon credibility, imo. ^_^
Ultima Weapon – 8
Paragon – 3
So Ultima Weapon it is, perhaps at least in part by the fact that so many haven’t faced Paragon.
Our final battle of the first round:
Ozma – Final Fantasy IX (This big spinning globe thing is found in the Chocobo Air Garden. 65535 HP, 9999 MP and many dangerous moves. It uses Level 5 Death, so it’s not a good idea to have anyone with a level that’s a multiple of five. It has Kuja’s Star Flare and the powerful Doomsday spell. It can also Curse your characters with status effects and uses Flare, Holy and Meteor. It has tremendous speed. You can steal a Pumice Piece, Robe of Lords and Dark Matter. And you can win a Pumice and Dark Matter. Also, for winning, Mene gives you the Ozma card and Strategy Guide key items. In order to attack Ozma physically, you’ll need to have completed the Friendly Monsters sidequest.)
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Nemesis – Final Fantasy X (Monster Arena) (The big one. Nemesis [a.k.a. "Omega Gold"] is only unlockable after you’ve captured ten of every monster and beaten all of the creations at least once. Just for unlocking it, you receive 10 Master Spheres. It has 10,000,000 HP. Obviously, most of its other statistics are way high. It has a powerful physical attack, for sure. It also uses the powerful moves Ultra Spark and Annihilation. Common strategies include simply going for Zanmato and using aeons as sacrificial lambs. For winning, you receive the Mark of Conquest Key Item.
Ozma – 12
Nemesis – 1
Nemesis could only muster up one vote. It won’t be going on to the second one, but that big spinning thing that is Ozma will.
And here it is, the second round:
Ruby Weapon – Final Fantasy VII
Ultima Weapon – Final Fantasy VIII
Omega Weapon – Final Fantasy VIII
Ozma – Final Fantasy IX
Hades – Final Fantasy IX
Quale – Final Fantasy IX
Tantarian – Final Fantasy IX
Penance – Final Fantasy X (International)
Remember, that list above is only to remind everyone what’s left heading into the second round. The record of what’s happening within the round is now kept exclusively on the first post of the thread for more convenient access.
All right, first battle of the second round:
Ultima Weapon – Final Fantasy VIII ("The strongest, ultimate monster. It’s said to be impossible to defeat." – scan description)
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Hades – Final Fantasy IX ("Who dares disturb my sleep? Leave at once, or you will die.")
As for design, I think they’re equally terrible.
Meh. Ultima Weapon, just because I like purple hues.
Our results on this one:
Ultima Weapon – 5
Hades – 6
So after it was starting to look like Ultima Weapon might have that one sewn up, Hades wins this one by a hair.
And next we have:
Ruby Weapon – Final Fantasy VII ("A rose that blooms once every thousand years in the desert." – Item description for the Desert Rose you win for beating this sucker.)
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Penance – Final Fantasy X (International) (Sorry, I don’t know of any sort of quote thing to attach to this one.)
Ruby Weapon
Also, Ragnarok-inspired Transformer ftw.
EDIT: Haha. Damn skippy, K-neg.
Ruby Weapon – 12
Penance – 1
Penance only musters a single vote. Honestly, I was surprised it even made it past the first round. Ruby it is.
Next up:
Omega Weapon – Final Fantasy VIII
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Quale – Final Fantasy IX
(invincible moon ftw)
Quale – 1
Quale, like Penance, only managed a single vote. Omega Weapon goes on to the second round. Final battle of this round:
Ozma – Final Fantasy IX
Tantarian – Final Fantasy IX
So many FFIX choices were voted into this round that there had to be at least one FFIX vs. FFIX battle, and here it is. Cast your votes!
Ozma – 2
Tantarian – 7
Which definitely proves that pure power isn’t everything. The monster-in-a-book goes on to the semi-finals.
That’s the end of the quarter-finals and we’ve now reached the semi-finals. Still in this:
Ruby Weapon – Final Fantasy VII
Omega Weapon – Final Fantasy VIII
Tantarian – Final Fantasy IX
Hades – Final Fantasy IX
FFIX bosses are still in the majority going into the semi-finals and I’ve decided that they should both be given a chance to make the final. Of course, that also leaves open the possibility of neither making the final. First hurdle:
Ruby Weapon – Final Fantasy VII
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Tantarian – Final Fantasy IX
At least this one had a bit of characterization.
I’ll vote for Tantarian on this one, because as much as I’d like it to be true, Ruby Weapon is not a Transformer which could turn into the Ragnarok – or something similar; it was all a sham! Plus, I’ve never seen a book wreak havoc quite like Tantarian has.
Because I’m worth it.
:X
Ruby Weapon – 4
Tantarian – 6
Ruby Weapon unable to overcome the votes for the early favorite, Tantarian, which makes it into the final! And now, our other semi-final, which will determine whether or not this shall be an all FFIX final:
Omega Weapon – Final Fantasy VIII
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Hades – Final Fantasy IX
Omega Weapon is a tough contender, but FFIX has been pretty dominant so far. So how will this one go? Cast your votes!
Omega Weapon – 5
Hades – 5
Wow, looks like we have a tie. First time in a while we’ve had that. Well, the rule is that when we have a tie in anything other than the first round, we go to the results from the previous rounds to determine the tie-breaker. That shakes out as follows:
Omega Weapon – 13/16, 11/12 = 81%, 92% = 86%
Hades – 8/10, 6/11 = 80%, 55% = 68%
So our final battle of this edition:
Omega Weapon – Final Fantasy VIII
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Tantarian – Final Fantasy IX
Perhaps not the final anyone would have expected, but we’ve had some surprising results before, after all. In terms of pure power, Tantarian is definitely the underdog here, but it’s managed to beat other tough contenders to make it into the finals.
Omega Weapon, VIII represent.
I’m sold on that concept alone.
That can hurt you.
That can hurt you.
Omega Weapon – 3
Tantarian – 7
Not even that close. The poisonous book from Final Fantasy IX is our grand winner:
What a finish. The Tantarian was an underdog if it ever was one, but it came out on top. Thanks to everyone that voted in this edition! New edition starting promptly in two days, so stay tuned! No suggestions necessary — I’ll have something cooked up by then.
My vote wouldn’t have made a difference, but… >>
Tantarian is also my favorite Tetra Master card. That was a hard decision.
Anyway, here’s the deal. The next edition is going to be mini-games. I already have most of the obvious choices worked out, including Chocobo Racing, Triple Triad, Tetra Master, Chocobo Hot and Cold and Blitzball, to name a few. However, if anyone has any favorites they want to nominate, make sure I don’t miss out on, go ahead, and then the battles will start tomorrow evening.
All right, here’s a few nominations of mine:
Gunner’s Gauntlet (X-2)
Sphere Break (X-2)
Motorcycle Chase (VII)
That crappy puzzle square from FFI.
fuck you knegative i ony just joined this forum and i only wondered if you could get aeris back cuz i know thats there loadsa secrets in the game and i thought maybe saving her was one of em, and also you know as well as i do that we dont all know every possible secret so can you blame me for askin?
kk cheers agent
The war like strategy games in FF6 was immense, I used to play them over and over and challenge myself to beat under difficult circumstances. They were compulsory though which sucked.
Pirate Olympics FF12
Slide Puzzle – Final Fantasy I
Kefka Assault – Final Fantasy VI
Motorcycle Chase – Final Fantasy VII
Snowboarding – Final Fantasy VII
Chocobo Racing – Final Fantasy VII
Mog House – Final Fantasy VII
Triple Triad – Final Fantasy VIII
Concert Instrument Selection – Final Fantasy VIII
Tetra Master – Final Fantasy IX
Chocobo Hot and Cold – Final Fantasy IX
Frog Catching – Final Fantasy IX
Blitzball – Final Fantasy X
Sphere Break – Final Fantasy X-2
Gunner’s Gauntlet – Final Fantasy X-2
Desert Digging – Final Fantasy X-2
Pirate Olympics – Final Fantasy XII
(Remember, this list is only here for reference as we start the battles — the current results are kept on the very first post in the thread.)
Well, I think I managed to actually get in all the nominations. Obviously, this is weighted more towards certain games than others, because some of the games just had a lot more mini-games than others, and in particular, the "classics" didn’t have much in the way of anything that could be called "mini-games." First battle:
Motorcycle Chase – Final Fantasy VII (The "motorcycle chase" is first played as part of the plot — escape on a motorcycle with Cloud while protecting the trailing car with your party members from attacking Shinra motorcyclists. Hit points left at the end determines your hit points going into the battle with the Motor Ball boss at the end of the highway. Later on, this can be played as a game for points at the Gold Saucer, and a really high score can get you a "Source" item. But it’s really not much help in terms of earning GP.)
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Blitzball – Final Fantasy X (With Sin constantly on the attack, Spira’s rather short on fun, so this was the only real mini-game of consequence in X. It shows up again in X-2, but not a lot of people like that version, so I’m not including that in this rumble. A sport played in a water-filled dome, this game is a big part of the plot, especially early-on, in X. You are required to play it at least once against the Luca Goers. The match isn’t that easy to win, but winning it earns a bonus sphere item. After that, it becomes accessible from save spheres for most of the game and playing it can earn some nice bonus items, and is needed for Wakka’s ultimate weapon.)
Even though I didn’t have much fun with Blitzball, it was a decent mini-game, I suppose. At first, I was excited to play it due to all the hype. Then when the time finally came to take part in the action, I became largely indifferent toward the sport, and haven’t played it since the mandatory match in the storyline.
Give me controls over my characters in a damn sport game, FFS!
Blitzball was fun but man it was fun hacking at other drivers with a huge sword while on a motorcycle. Kind of things you wanna do in real life sometimes.
I never really got into it in my 2nd run through of the game, but I had tons of fun with it in my first run-through!
Motorcycle Chase – 6
Blitzball – 7
Blitzball wins by just one vote. A lot closer than I think some people would have expected. I wonder how that bodes for its future prospects in this edition.
Well, for now, we continue with this battle:
Triple Triad – Final Fantasy VIII (FFVIII’s card game. You’re never required to play it within the game, but it’s very popular among fans. The basic rules for play are pretty simple, but you can mix it up by adding in a variety of rules such as Same, Open, and Random, as well as varying trade rules. Cards that win you can be refined into useful items using Quezacotl’s Card-Mod ability. Obviously, rarer cards got you better items, and there were also unique GF and character cards which could be refined into very powerful items, but at the expense of not having a complete collection.)
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Frog Catching – Final Fantasy IX (Takes place at the four Qu’s Marshes throughout the world of Gaia. Quina could catch frogs and in exchange, earn weapons/items for catching so many, as well as powering up hir "Frog Drop" ability, one of only a few attacks within the game that could be powered up to do a guaranteed 9999 damage. It was generally best to catch only a few frogs and leave one male and one female so that the frogs would repopulate more quickly. And there was also a golden frog, which was better not to catch, as it was bisexual and could breed with either males or females, allowing them to repopulate that much faster. After catching 99 frogs, you would get to fight Master Quale.)
Masked within its less than stellar gameplay, what exactly does Frog Catching encourage you to revel in?
Gluttony – that’s what. And it’s disgusting!
Triple Triad!
Triple Triad – 11
Frog Catching – 4
The card game from FFVIII wins by a large margin, but there’s no doubt Quina’s mini-game from FFIX had support.
Gluttony – that’s what. And it’s disgusting!
One of the Seven Deadly Sins. I happened to enjoy frog-catching, though, though I’m not sure if enjoyed it more than Triple Triad…
Well, enough of my rambling, on with the next battle:
Mog House – Final Fantasy VII (A reasonably cute bit of entertainment in the Gold Saucer, but doesn’t necessarily provide any lasting appeal. In the story, you help out a little mog [moogle] named, well, Mog, who lives in Mog Forest on Mt. Mog and is pipapopupo years old [that’s about 23 in human years.] He wants to win the heart of a female mog named Mag, but needs to fly in order to do so. You feed him kupo nuts [but not too many!] and once you do so, he’s able to fly and they get together and live happily ever after, starting a nice little mog family. For completing it, a guy standing in front of it thanks you for it to him and gives you 30 GP.)
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Desert Digging – Final Fantasy X-2 (A mini-game taking place in the Bikanel Desert. You run around and dig for treasures, hoping to obtain them before your competition. You have 60 seconds in which to do so, and you watch for Xs on the minimap. You can find treasures for your inventory, useful Key Items [including Al Bhed Primers] and components for machina weapon at the Djose Temple. Sometimes, though, you may end up in a battle instead. You have to make sure to get back to the hover before the time runs out in order for it to count as a successful dig. And you need to find a component in order for it to count. In Chapter 5, you can unlock a fun variation on this mini-game — choco-digging!, in which you ride around on a zippy chocobo while searching for the treasures.)
Anyway, the Al Bhed’s true purpose, which was somewhat implied, was to create an experimental weapon, aptly named "Experiment," that they could use to rule over Spira with an iron fist, possibly due to being snubbed by the masses not too long ago.
The Gullwings, seeing as how they’re Al Bhed themselves, were down with that.
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I didn’t like the Mog House mini-game at all; it’s one of the low points in VII, in my opinion. Strangely enough, I love the track on the FFXI OST entitled "Mog House." It has this…
All right, now I’m rambling.
So I won’t be on tomorrow evening.
Mog House – 3
Desert Digging – 7
Digging game it is then.
Our next battle:
Kefka Assault – Final Fantasy VI (The closest thing FFVI has to a "mini-game," I suppose, so I’m including it. You have to make your way through groups of soldiers and guard-dogs to a final battle with Kefka. With Cyan, Gau, Locke, Terra, Celes, Sabin and Edgar, you have some leeway as to how you split up your three parties. You can switch parties when you’re not in battle, but you have to be careful, and you can’t let the soldiers break through and reach the top, or it’s game over.)
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Tetra Master – Final Fantasy IX (FFIX’s card game. Somewhat more complex in terms of basic gameplay than FFVIII’s Triple Triad. Unlike FFVIII’s Triple Triad, you are required to play it as part of the plot in the game, though winning or losing only determines whether or not you get a certain bonus item. Also, unlike FFVIII’s Triple Triad, cards can’t be refined into items.)
It’s an enjoyable mini-game accompanied by a catchy tune.
Kefka Assault – 3
Tetra Master – 6
Few votes at the end there for the FFVI mini-game-of-sorts, but it’s FFIX’s card game that makes it to the second round. All right, next battle is:
Snowboarding – Final Fantasy VII (First comes up towards the start of Disc 2 at Icicle Inn. You borrow the snowboard of a little injured boy and use it to make your way to the Great Glacier. The path is winding and tricky at times. What path you take ultimately determines where you end up at the Great Glacier. Once you go back to the Gold Saucer, this is available to play there at Wonder Square. You can gain access to several courses and collect balloons to earn points out of 100.)
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Sphere Break – Final Fantasy X-2 (A new game that is gaining a growing following in the world of Spira in Final Fantasy X-2. Popularized by Rin, a tournament for this game is held in Luca in Chapter 3. Basically, it’s a game of numerics. You select five "coins" to play with and they have numerical values 1-9. Within the game, you try to get the ‘sphere break’ by selecting coins until you get a multiple of the core sphere. You lose if you’re unable to make that because it isn’t possible with what you have left, or if you run out of time. And you can get bonuses for continuously doing it using the same multiple or with the same number of coins. Depending on the various requirements placed on the game, it can get quite tricky. But you can also win items or even rare items or Sphere Grids, and in the big tournament, winning the whole thing [with Shinra as the final opponent] earns the extremely valuable Lady Luck dressphere [but if you miss out, you can play him again in Chapter 5 to make him give it up.])
I hated Sphere Break with a fucking passion.
I’m equally a fan of both Snowboarding and Sphere Break, so I’ll have to resort to nonsensical reasoning.
I’m going with Sphere Break on this one, because I absolutely loved the Lady Luck dressphere (Paine), which is only obtained by way of the irritating yet fun match against Shinra during the tournament in Luca.
Sphere Break sharpens your arithmetic skills! Sphere Break is for the children!
I spent so many hours with this mini game, even my mom would try it out sometimes lol
Any mini game that makes me do math is teh garbage.
Snowboarding – 9
Sphere Break – 3
The FFVII mini-game picks up a fairly easy win there. Sphere Break had its fans, but FFVII finally gets a win in this edition.
And next, we have:
Slide Puzzle – Final Fantasy I (A small unlockable mini-game you can play after defeating the pirates and getting their ship. You can win money, potions, gold needles and antidotes from this game. You have to arrange the numbers 1-8 within a time limit. I can’t imagine this being too popular, but it was nominated, so here we go.)
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Chocobo Hot and Cold – Final Fantasy IX (A mini-game available in three different locations in FFIX — the Chocobo Forest, Lagoon and Air Garden. You ride around on the chocobo, searching around for hidden treasures within a set time limit. You have to pay to play, but generally the prizes are so good that you more than make up the price of admission. In addition to the prizes, you can earn points to buy more prizes, and also dig up valuable chocographs and chocograph pieces. After digging up a certain amount of chocographs within the time limit, you can get time added and start earning bonuses. A key point to remember is that there is only chocograph hidden at any given time.)
Chocobo Hot and Cold – 10
That’s a blowout condition, we can end this. The chocobo mini-game rockets through to the next round.
Our next battle is:
Chocobo Racing – Final Fantasy VII (Place your bets! Chocobo racing takes place in the Chocobo Square in the Gold Saucer. When you first visit, you’re welcome to place bets on C Class races featuring other racers for the potential to win prizes. But the game really takes off once you get the Highwind and can return to the Chocobo Ranch near Midgar to start breeding your own chocobos from chocobos you’ve caught in battle. Then, entering in the races, you can race them up to as far as S Class and win exciting prizes as well. However, it can take a long time to train chocobos, and the racing can get somewhat monotonous at times.)
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Pirate Olympics – Final Fantasy XII (A foot-racing game that I suppose it somewhat similar to FFIX’s Hippaul race. You race using "circle" and "X" to turn right and left. You initiate the race by talking to Rikken in Balfonheim Port. There are a total of 100 levels with escalating prizes, the best being 10,000 gil, 2 elixirs and an unpurified ether.)
It’s a lovely mini-game which I’ve played on mute. Always.
It’s a lovely mini-game which I’ve played on mute.
I never really got that much into the chocobo racing but it was fun the few times I did play it. On the other hand I did like the foot racing in final fantasy IX but thefinal fantasy XII version seems harder and not as fun for some reason.
Seems like FFVII is king of mini-games.
It’s a lovely mini-game which I’ve played on mute. Always.
Well, could be. ๐ I suppose we’ll find out as the rumble progresses. In any case…
Chocobo Racing – 12
Pirate Olympics – 1
Seems people liked chocobo racing, though perhaps not some of the sound / music that goes with it.
Oh, lookie, we’ve reached the final battle of the first round. Which is this:
Concert Instrument Selection – Final Fantasy VIII (This is another one of those sort-of mini-game things. The deal is this — Selphie’s been organizing a concert as part of the Garden Festival for Balamb Garden. When Squall is declared to be the new leader, she and the others decide to go ahead with it to try to cheer him up. Thing is, Selphie has this great composition [an instrumental version of "Eyes on Me"] that was recommended to her by the last producer. But when the Garden started moving, the four scores got mixed up with four from another composition [an Irish jig]. You take on the role of Irvine to select who should play what instruments. You’re also actually free to leave the stage area as Irvine, and go exploring FH and the Garden for some dialogue you wouldn’t normally get. Your choices here influence the outcome of a later scene between Squall and Rinoa.)
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Gunner’s Gauntlet – Final Fantasy X-2 (A game that you’re first challenged to by Beclem in Chapter 2. You make your way through Besaid as Yuna, gunning down enemies and picking up ammo along the way. You don’t want to be attacked, because you’ll lose your chain and could eventually lose the game. Advance to earn prizes, and upgraded abilities, such as special types of ammo like Dual Shot and Volley. Prizes include, among others, a couple of Garment Grids, and the best prize is Adamantite. This is a powerful and unique accessory — truly unique, because your Gunner’s Gauntlet score carries over into New Game Plus, so you can only ever earn it once. There’s a way to "cheat" at this game — a "blind spot" area where you can fire from without fear of attack. Oh — and there’s a second version available inside Besaid Temple, but the prizes aren’t very good.)
Say that 3 times fast.
While both entries are highly entertaining, I don’t consider Concert Instrument Selection a mini-game; it’s too fixed to be classified as such, in my opinion.
In any case, I still enjoyed Gunner’s Gauntlet more than the other one.
How can you not vote for a mini-game where you could:
– Humiliate Beclem.
– Earn prizes.
– Euthanize rabid animals!
I never knew you could leave and explore…
The concert was freaking boring as hell just like FFVIII in general.
edit: lol it’s been almost 2 years since I made a post
Concert Instrument Selection – 6
Gunner’s Gauntlet – 3
And so the "mini-game" that isn’t even so much a mini-game manages to make it as the final entrant into the second round. And here we go with it. Let’s take a look at what’s left:
Snowboarding – Final Fantasy VII
Chocobo Racing – Final Fantasy VII
Triple Triad – Final Fantasy VIII
Concert Instrument Selection – Final Fantasy VIII
Tetra Master – Final Fantasy IX
Chocobo Hot and Cold – Final Fantasy IX
Blitzball – Final Fantasy X
Desert Digging – Final Fantasy X-2
Well, looks like we have a fairly varied selection here. A mix of some quite popular choices and a couple that are a bit more surprising. Time to start thinning out that herd, so let’s get going on the second round with this battle:
Triple Triad – Final Fantasy VIII ("Hey, have you heard? There is a card club here, AKA the CC Group. They’re bunch of card maniacs looking for worthy opponents day and night. Consider it an honor to be challenged to a game by one of the CC Group members.")
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Tetra Master – Final Fantasy IX (Regent Cid: "Since when am I your pet!? <Gwok!>" Erin: "Well, you ARE an oglop right now, after all…" Regent Cid: "Silence! <Gwok!> I’m the champion! <Gwok-gwok…> No one understands…" Father: "I heard the champion is a master of winning games with oglop cards… Her name is… ‘Erin the Oglop Master’…")
Only one of the two card games will grab a spot in the semi-finals! Cast your votes! (And remember, you can always check the updated standings in the first post in the thread.)
Triple Triad – 7
Tetra Master – 6
O-ho! What a great battle. Triple Triad wins, but only by one vote and continues to the semi-final battles.
And next is:
Snowboarding – Final Fantasy VII (Elena: "Looks like talking alone won’t cut it. You’re going to have to feel some pain!" Guard: "Just you… and me!!" Elena: "No, I can handle him! There’s no way he can avoid my punch. What? Yeah……" Guard: "Ele… Elena!?" Lookout: "What the…? They sure were weak for Shinras. Sorry I just took off a while ago… It looked like there was going to be trouble. Anyhow, you’ll need a snowboard to get down that hill. Want me to teach you to ride one?")
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Blitzball – Final Fantasy X (Tidus: "Wakka…" Wakka: "Hm?" Tidus: "Praying for victory’s all good…but is this right?" Wakka: "Something wrong with enjoying blitzball?" Tidus: "Is this really the time?" Wakka: "This is the only time! The players fight with all their strength; the fans cheer for their favorite team. They forget pain, suffering… Only the game matters! That’s why blitz has been around for so long. Least that’s what I think." Tidus: "Whatever you say." Wakka: "Let’s play…and win! Right?" Tidus: "Right!")
Nevertheless, Blitzball. I adore Snowboarding, but Blitzball is just more thoroughly developed.
Blitzball Closest to soccer FF will ever get.
Blitzball Closest to soccer FF will ever get.
It’s football you fucknuggit.
Damns yanks.
Blitzball – 9
Woulda ended yesterday, but I require eight votes to end it early, and I didn’t want to start changing things up — easy habit to get in if you start with it.
Blitzball is the winner, though — quite surprising to me — the snowboarding seemed so popular in the first round. All right, we continue with this next battle:
Chocobo Hot and Cold – Final Fantasy IX (Mene: "Wow, that’s amazing that you found so many, kupo! But you need to stop! I’ll go out of business if you keep going, kupo! I’ll give you a special bonus if you just quit now!")
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Desert Digging – Final Fantasy X-2 (Gippal: "You sure you wanna dig? ‘Cause we’re talking about the desert, ladies. Not exactly a picnic." Yuna: "We’re sure." Gippal: "All right, you’re hired. Welcome." Yuna: "Huh?" Gippal: "You. Are. Hired. Don’t know why a superstar like you would want to play in the sand. Well, do what you gotta do. Anyways, I’ve done what I can. Dig to
your heart’s content." Yuna: Um, thanks." Gippal: "Show this letter to a woman named Nhadala. You’ll find her in the Bikanel Desert.")
Desert Digging – <font color="red">0</font>
Well, there you have it. Another one-sided victory. Well, Chocobo Hot and Cold it is, then.
So after a very close battle to start the round, we’ve had two complete wipeouts. Looks like things could be very interesting for the semi-finals. We have one battle left, though, before we do those. Will it be another blowout, or a fierce battle? Let’s see the contenders:
Chocobo Racing – Final Fantasy VII (Ester: "Hmm, so that’s what happened. I’ll talk to Dio directly. You just concentrate on the race. Oh yeah, getting back to the other thing, there are many different types of Chocobo jockeys. It’s not only for criminals. Some people compete for the fame, some people compete for the money, some only for glory… And then there are people like you.")
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Concert Instrument Selection – Final Fantasy VIII (Selphie: "Let’s just give it a try. We have everything ready and all we need is 4 people." Rinoa: "This is gonna be fun!" Selphie: "Oh, sorry, Rinoa, but you’re not gonna be a member." Rinoa: "You’re leaving me out?" Selphie: "Uh-uh. We have something more important for you to do." Zell: "So what are we gonna do? I mean basically, we’re all amateurs, right? Even if you do hand us instruments, we won’t be able to do anything.")
Chocobo Racing – 4
Concert Instrument Selection – 3
Not a great turnout for this matchup, but the chocobo racing game squeaks through by just one vote.
Well, here we are — the semi-finals! Let’s take a look at the four mini-games left:
Chocobo Racing – Final Fantasy VII
Triple Triad – Final Fantasy VIII
Chocobo Hot and Cold – Final Fantasy IX
Blitzball – Final Fantasy X
Remember, the list above is just to update what’s left — you can find the updated record on the first page in the thread. First battle to determine our finalists:
Triple Triad – Final Fantasy VIII ("Hey, heard you’ve been playing some good games. Sure, you wanna play? What? The CC Group? Yeah, I’m a member. I’m Card Magician ‘Joker’. As my name says, I’m the black sheep of the group.")
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Blitzball – Final Fantasy X (Mika: "Today, on this glorious day, players from all over Spira have assembled here…to participate in this great contest of bravery, skill, and strength. All of these fine teams, equally renowned, deserve to win the cup today. Such is the nature of this contest. Let us, the spectators, play our role accordingly: Let us sing to the glory of the winners, and applaud equally the valor of the defeated. Contestants, may Yevon be with you.")
This is the hardest round. I was hoping it was going to be the final, but alas.
Ummmmmm……..Blitzball. Made an entire game for me.
Hmm what a predicament. I spent many hours challenging people at Triple Triad in FFVIII…but Blitzball it is. Too goddamn fun.
Blitzball – 7
Well, if this was the final, it wouldn’t have been much of a final. The FFVIII card game gets a trouncing, while blitzball makes it the final matchup. Perhaps it’ll face better competition from one of these two contenders:
Chocobo Racing – Final Fantasy VII (Joe: "Nice to meet you, Cloud. If you’re with Ester, then…" Ester: "Right! He’s an up and coming jockey. He’s only been down here for a day and already he made it up here!!" Joe: "What!? Oh, I see… So what did you do down there? Sorry… you’re not supposed to ask about the past here… Pretty interesting…. I have a feeling that we’ll meet again. Then, until we meet again, Cloud.")
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Chocobo Hot and Cold – Final Fantasy IX ( Mene: "…You look kind of dirty, kupo." Choco: "Kwehhh…" Mene: "Did I hurt your feelings? I’m sorry, kupo. Well, it doesn’t matter what color you are, kupo. You’re still my Choco!")
Battle of the chocobo mini-games, begin!
Oh, I know specifically why, beat, I just meant that you don’t have to feel bad about voting against it. It made it much farther than I thought it would to begin with, so I am perfectly pleased.
Chocobo Hot and Cold
Chocobo Racing – <font color="red">0</font>
Chocobo Hot and Cold – 9
Well, we’ve reached the final battle and both of these two have been awesome contenders up to this point, so I’d be quite surprised if there was a lopsided victory in this case. Here we go then:
Chocobo Hot and Cold – Final Fantasy IX (Fat Chocobo: "Only chocobos can live here." Mene: "…No exceptions?" Fat Chocobo: "No exceptions…" Mene: "…Choco…" Fat Chocobo: "Have you finished your goodbyes?" Mene: "Not yet, kupo! Choco still needs to find more treasures!" Fat Chocobo: "Choco, were you not looking for peace and companionship? Are there things you must take care of?" Choco: "…Kweh." Fat Chocobo: "Then come back when you finish what you must do." Mene: "…I’m goin’ home, kupo. I’ll be waiting at the usual location, kupo!")
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Blitzball – Final Fantasy X (Tidus: "The best? Yeah, right." Wakka: "Whoa! What’s that called?" Tidus: "Doesn’t have a name. Anyone can do it if they try." Wakka: "Show us one more time, ya?" Yuna: "That was the Jecht Shot, wasn’t it?" Tidus: "How do you know that?" Yuna: "Sir Jecht showed it to me when I was a child. He called it the ‘Sublimely Magnificent Jecht Shot Mark III.’" Tidus: "Stupid name, huh? You know what? There is no Mark I or Mark II, you know? My old crowd said the name Mark III was just something to hook the crowd. He said they’d come back every night expecting to see Mark I and Mark II. And, they really did come back. I used to get so mad. Is he alive, you think?")
I just played it so much more because I liked the treasure obtained for doing it. The Blitzball treasure sucked tbh if you didn’t used Wakka.
Chocobo Hot and Cold – 2
Blitzball – 7
Well. I expected a much closer vote than that. But it would seem that Blitzball is truly the king when it comes to FF mini-games.
"I thought then that blitzball and Sin were the only two things that Spira and Zanarkand had in common. I wasn’t too far off, either."
So what’s next? Well… stay tuned. I’ll have something else ready in a couple of evenings.
Interesting question. I’ll make sure to ask Wakka the next time I see him. ๐
All right, well, next edition starts tomorrow. In the meantime, I want nominations! ๐ So what will you be nominating? Well, I’ve decided (unless you all think it really sucks) to go with Best / Most Interesting Gameplay Innovation. Examples include Active Time Event system — FFIX, the Gate Crystal — FFXII and Jobs system — FFIII (though it was really FFV that more popularized the idea.) That’s the sort of thing I’m looking for — so have some fun nominating, and I’ll announce the final lineup tomorrow evening.
The License Board (XII)
The Junction System (VIII)
Materia (VII)
Limits/Trance/Overdrive/Quickenings/Concurrences. LIMITS. (VI-XII)
Black Materia vs White Materia
Red Materia vs Green Materia
and The Phoenix Cave was it where you switch between the parties. (again FF6)
Anyway, I was hoping for a bit more in terms of nominations, but gotta keep going. So if anyone has anything else, please post it and the first battle will be starting soon.
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I think barretboy is right, the fact that you had to separate your party into teams in Phoenix Cave and Kefka’s tower should be considered part of the gameplay. Because each team was depended to the others to move on, and you had to think how to make the teams equal (else it wouldnt work out).
Dont forget the system of FF 1 ๐
Well, let’s do this…
Character/Fighter Class Evolution – Final Fantasy I
Jobs System – Final Fantasy III/V
Searching for Friends – Final Fantasy VI
Multiple Party Configuration – Final Fantasy VI
Materia – Final Fantasy VII
PHS (Party Hensei System) – Final Fantasy VII
Junction/Draw – Final Fantasy VIII
Active Time Events – Final Fantasy IX[
Sphere Grid – Final Fantasy X
Missions – Final Fantasy X-2
Completion Percentage / Altered Endings – Final Fantasy X-2
Online Gameplay / Continuing Story – Final Fantasy XI
License Board – Final Fantasy XII
Gate Crystals – Final Fantasy XII
FMVs – Final Fantasy VII and Onward (plus integrated into some classic games)
Limits System – Final Fantasy VI – XII
Once again, remember that list above is only for your info as we start this edition of the rumble. The updated results are posted on the first page.
Well, managed to get 16, so here we go!
Active Time Events – Final Fantasy IX (Unique to FFIX, the Active Time Event [ATE] system switched players away from the main character [usually Zidane] to view an event of meaning to the plot taking place somewhere else. Oftentimes these events concerned members of your party, though they could just as easily focus on the events of NPC characters, or even one of the game’s villains. Oh, and ATEs are often mandatory, but sometimes are optional and occasionally you have to hunt for them. Every once in a while, an ATE game be affected by gameplay decisions or affect later gameplay events.)
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Gate Crystals (Orange in color, these crystals allowed you to save, just like the game’s blue crystals. However, these crystals also held a marvelous power. With the use of a Teleport Stone, they allowed you to travel to any other Gate Crystal you had previously visited. With this power, you could return to many areas of the world throughout the game — gathering materials from battles, talking with the locals, and taking part the game’s biggest sidequest — hunting for Marks.)
The teleport crystals aren’t really needed, they are just ideal. If you need LP you can walk through all the areas instead of teleporting. I used about 5 teleport stones before getting the airship and I only used them because I was lazy.
ATE are a good idea in my opinion because any event whether in real life or in a game will usually happen reguardless. I probably worded that badly but any event that is important won’t always happen after a boss fight or something important.
Active Time Events (ATEs) – 10
Interesting battle. First three votes were all for the crystals from FXII, but from then on, it was ATEs all the way. They win by a wide margin and continue to the second round.
And we continue with:
Jobs System – Final Fantasy III/V (A system first implemented in FFIII and later refined in FFV. I suppose it’s fair to say that X-2 uses this same basic style as well, though it has its own twist on it. The various "jobs" include types of mages, powerful physical fighters, a thief class and other types with unusual and unique abilities such as Geomancer and Bard. In FFIII, you obtained superior versions of certain classes during the game. In FFV, you just received various job types, but you could combine abilities of types to make an even more formidable character for battle.)
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Searching for Friends – Final Fantasy VI (In an interesting twist, when you begin the World of Ruin in this game, you have only Celes in party. She’s awoken from a coma on a desolate island, with only Cid for company. After either rescuing him or coming to terms with his death, she sets off on a raft. The plot of the game requires that she reunite with at least two other of your party members — Edgar and Setzer, and then, if you’re really really good, you can go take on Kefka. However, the remaining party members are scattered throughout the world. Finding them will often gain you valuable new items and espers, as well as having their aid going into the final battle.)
*sigh*
So Searching for Friends for me
*sigh*
Can’t think of a better way to put it.
Seconded.
Seconded.
EDIT: Crap, lost the first quote. It’s Searching for Friends.
Jobs System – 5
Searching for Friends – 8
Pretty good battle. FFVI’s system of searching the globe for your lost allies continues to the second round.
And we continue the first round battles with this here…
Materia – Final Fantasy VII (In general, Final Fantasy VII’s system of magic. There’s a total of five types of materia — magic [green], command [yellow], summon [red], support [blue] and independent [purple.] Oh, and then there’s also the holy [white] and meteor [black] materia, central to the plot. Materia open up a number of valuable abilities, from powerful attack magic to valuable enemy skills. In general, various types of materia will enhance some character stats while decreasing others. However, there are some types of Independent materia that can boost stats. Also noteworthy are the Huge Materia — part of one of the game’s major quests, and the Master Materia [obtained from the huge materia, or as a prize for defeating Emerald Weapon.])
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Missions – Final Fantasy X-2 (It’s mission time! Missions were a central component of this game. Some were required to advance in the plot, but many were optional. Occasionally, there were missions within missions — such as the three quests to hunt for Syndicate ‘duds.’ Some other noteworthy missions included hunting down malfunctioning machina on the Mi’ihen Highroad, completing the Youth League’s battle tournament and helping Clasko and Calli with their various choco-issues. Oftentimes you would "score" a Garment Grid for completing a mission and many times there were even more valuable prizes. Completing one or missions in an area was often vital in Chapter 5 to obtaining the area’s "Episode Complete," assuming you fulfilled the necessary requirements [if any] in earlier chapters.)
I liked how it leveled up with your characters and at a pretty well thought out rate as to not be to strong to early or to weak to late.
The mission bullshit in X-2 was lame, un-creative, and cheesey beyond belief.
Materia – 11
Missions – <font color="red">0</font>
Blowout ends the battle — Materia surfs to the second round.
All right, next battle, then:
Junction/Draw – Final Fantasy VIII (In one of the most unique systems of magic and character building for the series, FFVIII featured the ability to draw and then junction magic, as well as GFs. Magic could be obtained in three ways — by drawing from monsters, drawing from "draw points" or refining from items. GFs could also sometimes be drawn from monsters, but sometimes you had to fight the GF itself to acquire it. GFs came with certain abilities and could learn others and junctioning them generally enabled the ability to junction magic to stats. Of course, you could still use magic in battle, but often it was better to just save a bunch of it to use for junction and really boost your stats. The junction/draw system has been both loved and loathed by various players [and sometimes both by the same player] for various reasons.)
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FMVs – Final Fantasy VII and Onward (plus integrated into some classic games) (A mainstay of the series since VII, FMVs or Full Motion Videos provide a cinematic presentation of some of the series’ most dramatic, emotional, and compelling events. From the game opening to the ending, they display such moments as "The Landing" in Dollet in FFVIII, FFIX’s "Skirmish of the Silver Dragons" and "The Sending" in FFX. The rereleases of some of the classic games have also included added FMV sequences — generally for the opening and ending. Many players have enjoyed these sequences, though some have viewed them as an unnecessary break / intrusion from the main gameplay / story.)
I would have voted junction against almost anything, but it had to be FMVs ๐ก
I would have also voted Junctioning against a lot of other candidates.
I would have also voted Junctioning against a lot of other candidates.
FMVs
I would have also voted Junctioning against a lot of other candidates.
I found junctioning way to complicated.
Junction/Draw – <font color="red">0</font>
FMVs – 11
FMVs / Full Motion Videos it is the, for the second round. Next up we have a battle of two systems used to directly build your characters’ attributes and abilities:
Sphere Grid – Final Fantasy X (All the characters in the game shared one Sphere Grid, but all began at different positions. Each started at a position designed to emphasize a certain style of combat — i.e. "Black Mage" for Yuna, "Thief" for Rikku, etc. Certain types of spheres activated nodes on the grid and they were normally obtained through defeating enemies in battle. Some of the more powerful nodes were often locked and required "Key" Spheres in order to gain access to. Kimahri started at the middle of the board and could be taken down pretty much any path you wanted. Later on in the game, you could also gain access to spheres such as "Warp" and "Friend" Spheres, that facilitated movement around the grid. FFX International came with an expanded version of the Sphere Grid.)
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License Board – Final Fantasy XII (Like FFX, all of the characters shared this. Unlike FFX, however, it was much easier to customize any particular character any way you wanted right from the get-go if you so desired. The License Board was equally open to all characters and there were Licenses for weapons, armor, accessories, stat boosts and combat aids, magic and abilities. In the case of weapons, armor and accessories, you wanted to make sure to learn licenses, because otherwise even if you had the particular item, you couldn’t equip it unless you had a character that had learned that License. Points to on the License Board were, like with FFX’s Sphere Grid, earned directly in battle.)
Sure the License Board was easy, but it was just too easy to comepletely fill up.
And oh snap! this round seems to be shaping into a good one.
Edit: I spoke to freakin soon!
License Boards are for puffs. :p
License Board again makes all characters the same. A lazy designed system in my opinion. While progressing in the Spehere Grid each character learned attacks/magic of a specific kind, and there was also some strategy of where to move, as you could see the whole sphere map, where in Licese Board you have no idea where the fuck you are going.
Sphere Grid – 11
License Board – 2
After a couple of early votes for FFXII’s License Board, the Sphere Grid from FFX takes a strong win. Still got a few battles left in this round, so let’s get going again with this battle:
Character/Fighter Class Evolution – Final Fantasy I (You start the game with basic job-types that you can choose for the four of your characters. If you find Bahamut and get the Rat’s Tail, then you get a class upgrade and your classes change to higher forms, such as "Thief" to "Ninja" and any "Mage" type upgraded to "Wizard.")
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Online Gameplay / Continuing Story – Final Fantasy XI (FFXI introduced the concept of online gameplay with other players from around the world to the Final Fantasy series. Through expansion packs, the story continues. However, it’s pay to play.)
Online Gameplay/Continuing Story – 2
The classic FFI trounces FFXI — there were a couple supporters for its online-gameplay and continuing story, but FFI’s character evolution moves swiftly to the second round.
All right, we’ve got a couple battles left in this. Let’s continue with:
Multiple Party Configuration – Final Fantasy VI (Used a couple times in the game — in the Phoenix Cave as you attempt to locate Locke and in Kefka’s tower. If I recall correctly, you split into only two parties in the Cave and can therefore use up to eight characters. But in Kefka’s, it’s three parties, for a max of twelve characters. Of course, you can only use characters if you’ve found them, and, generally, you’ll want to balance your parties, unless you’ve got everyone pretty well built up. You can switch between parties at any time, and generally, you will have to switch between parties a few times in order to proceed.)
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PHS (Party Hensei System) – Final Fantasy VII (Allowed easy switching of characters in and out of your party. Could be used at any time on the World Map or a save point, unlike say, FFVI or IX, which required you to go to the airship to switch characters. You obtained this in Kalm Town. Oh, and occasionally, one of the other characters would "phone you up" on it.)
Multiple Party Configuration – 8
PHS – 3
Pretty decisive — PHS picks up some votes, but it’s the Multiple Party Configuration system that moves to the second round. And we only have one battle before that, and that’s this one here:
Completion Percentage / Altered Endings – Final Fantasy X-2 (FFX-2 added in the idea of completion percentage and altered endings. Based on your overall completion percentage and certain actions you took, you had the opportunity to add on to or alter the ending you got to the game. Of course, altering the ending wasn’t entirely new — you could change the ending to some degree in FFV too.)
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Limits System – Final Fantasy VI – XII (They’ve been called by a lot of names in various games, but most players refer to them generally as "Limits," the term used in FFVII and FFVIII. They started out as "Desperation" attacks in FFVI — a special attack a character could occasionally perform if their status was in critical and you directed them to attack normally. VII upped the ante with various limit moves Level 1-4 for each character, with a meter that built up as characters took damage from enemies. FFVIII changed things around by returning to limits that could occasionally be performed when characters were in critical [or a special "Aura" status], but were much easier to trigger. IX had Trance, X overdrives, and most recently, XII features Quickenings.)
Limits System – 10
Well, after the thrashing FFX-2 got before, can’t say I’m surprised, but there were a couple votes its way. All right, second round, and maybe we’ll get some better battles here. Let’s take a look first at what we have left:
Character/Fighter Class Evolution – Final Fantasy I
Searching for Friends – Final Fantasy VI
Multiple Party Configuration – Final Fantasy VI
Materia – Final Fantasy VII
Active Time Events – Final Fantasy IX
Sphere Grid – Final Fantasy X
FMVs – Final Fantasy VII and Onward
Limits System – Final Fantasy VI – XII
Blah blah blah, above list is only for reference, current results on the first page of the thread yada-yada.
First battle of the second round:
Searching for Friends – Final Fantasy VI (Celes: "I thought everyone was gone… I had given up all hope… But…fortunately, I was wrong! Now I know they’re all alive! We need to find everyone! Then…" Sabin: "I know, I know… We smash Kefka, and deliver peace unto the world…")
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Active Time Events – Final Fantasy IX ("ATE, kupo! Active Time Event is a system that lets you see other events that are happening at the same time elsewhere, kupo! Press the SELECT button when you see the icon flashing below. You can press the button anytime while the icon is flashing. Try pressing [SELECT], kupo!")
FFVI rocks, and to me, Active Time Events is just weird.
FFVI final imo
Searching for Friends – 9
Active Time Events – 4
The classic takes this one — FFVI’s idea of gathering up your lost comrades goes on to the semi-finals.
Next we have:
Materia – Final Fantasy VII (Cloud: "By the way… Why is it that when you use materia you can also use magic too?" Sephiroth: "You were in SOLDIER and didn’t even know that? …the knowledge and wisdom of the Ancients is held in the materia. Anyone with this knowledge can freely use the powers of the Land and the Planet. That knowledge interacts between ourselves and the planet calling up magic….. or so they say." Cloud: "Magic…… a mysterious power." Sephiroth: "Ha, ha, ha!" Cloud: "Did I say somethin’ funny?" Sephiroth "A man once told me never to use an unscientific term such as mysterious power! It shouldn’t even be called magic! I still remember how angry he was." Cloud "Who was that?" Sephiroth: "Hojo of Shinra, Inc. … An inexperienced man assigned to take over the work of a great scientist. He was a walking mass of complexes." Tifa: "A Mako fountain… So this is where the knowledge of the Ancients is.")
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Limits System – Final Fantasy VI – XII (Kuja: "So…an eruption of anger against one’s surroundings induces a complete Trance! It’s not the will to live, nor is it the desire to protect another!" Zidane: "Man, you’re really goin’ off! Hello!?" Kuja: "That means…I simply need a powerful soul, even if that soul is not my own! No, wait… And it can be found there! Hahahaha!!" Zidane: "Kuja! What are you plotting?" Kuja: "I am done with you!")
Materia – <font color="red">0</font>
Limits System – 8
So it’s Limits to the semi-finals. Next we have:
Multiple Party Configuration – Final Fantasy VI
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FMVs – Final Fantasy VII and Onward
FF6 FTW!
ROKI, you’re apparently on the wrong battle, both here and over in the FFX Rumble.
Really sorry about that. Thanks for informing me about FFX too.
FMVs – 8
FMVs (Full Motion Videos) wins by a sizable margin, though the multiple party idea from FFVI had its supporters.
Final battle of the second round:
Character/Fighter Class Evolution – Final Fantasy I
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Sphere Grid – Final Fantasy X
Character/Fighter Class Evolution – <font color="red">8</font>
Sphere Grid – 0
And so the "gameplay innovation" from the very first game in the series looks like a strong contender going into the semi-finals. Who’da thunk? ๐
Well, here were are then, the semi-finals. Once again, a list of the remaining contenders, for reference only:
Character/Fighter Class Evolution – Final Fantasy I
Searching for Friends – Final Fantasy VI
FMVs – Final Fantasy VII and Onward
Limits System – Final Fantasy VI – XII
First up:
Searching for Friends – Final Fantasy VI (Cid: "Celes…you must leave this place. You have to find your friends!" Celes: "I know… But I’ll bring ’em all back to meet you!" Cid: "That Locke fellow, too, no doubt…"
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Limits System – Final Fantasy VI – XII (Irvine: "Oh, I forgot to tell you… For my Limit Break, Shot, pull the trigger with the R1. Got it?")
FFVI Rocks!!
FFVI FTFW!!
FFVI FTFW!!
FFVI FTFW!!
FFVI FTFW!!
Searching for Friends – 6
Limits System – 8
Nice, close battle there, but Limits just edges it out and continues to the final battle.
Okay, now our second semi-final:
Character/Fighter Class Evolution – Final Fantasy I
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FMVs – Final Fantasy VII and Onward
Character/Fighter Class Evolution – <font color="red">0</font>
FMVs – 8
This edition of the rumble has been marked by decisive choices on the whole, so I wonder how things will go for the final. Will it be a good battle, or another lopsided result? Here we go then:
FMVs – Final Fantasy VII and Onward
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Limits System – Final Fantasy VI – XII
It’s been a battle for the best gameplay innovation and I was somewhat dubious at the beginning whether FMVs even quite constituted a "gameplay" innovation, but your votes have spoken. Do they have what it takes to beat the popularity of the various forms of limits? Cast your votes!
(There were limits in FFVI?)
FMVs – 13
Limits System – 2
Our big winner:
FMVs / Full Motion Videos
So what’s next? Well, somebody (May, was it?) suggested in another thread that we ought to do vehicles. This idea was rejected in the past because everybody seemed to think that FFVIII’s Ragnarok would cream the competition, but perhaps it’s time to reconsider it. Any thoughts, anyone?
And LOL @ Yuna’s fmv pics.
eg Locke and Auron
Kimahri and Quina
Big Whale – Final Fantasy IV
Blackjack – Final Fantasy VI
Falcon – Final Fantasy VI
Buggy – Final Fantasy VII
Tiny Bronco – Final Fantasy VII
Highwind – Final Fantasy VII
Submarine – Final Fantasy VII
Rental Car – Final Fantasy VIII
Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII
Ragnarok – Final Fantasy VIII
Blue Narciss – Final Fantasy IX
Hilda Garde III – Final Fantasy IX
Invincible – Final Fantasy IX
Recovered Airship – Final Fantasy X
Celsius – Final Fantasy X-2
Strahl – Final Fantasy XII
Hey, wow, that’s sixteen. That was easier than I thought it would be. Well, I’m eager to get this party started, so let’s get going right away with this first battle:
Highwind – Final Fantasy VII (FFVII’s airship. You first see this vehicle at the airport in Junon when you first visit there in Disc 1, but don’t actually acquire it until Disc 2 after a number of events. When your party is trapped and nearly publicly executed by Scarlet, this airship comes to the rescue. If you talk with one of the pilots operating the controls, he reveals that they rebelled against Heidegger and the rest of the Shinra gang and were just waiting for their moment once they found out your party had been captured. The Highwind is powered by a propeller, but if you talk with Cid at a certain point, he comments that something is bothering him — he wonders if the ship has somehow been redesigned without him knowing it. Finally, at the end of Disc 2, he notes a couple of levers that have been bugging him for a while. The levers turn out to be the key to gaining the secret of the Highwind’s rocket-powered engines, turning it into a much zippier airship.)
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Blue Narciss – Final Fantasy IX (A vessel that Regent Cid and his forces stole from Alexandria. This vessel can traverse the entire ocean, allowing you to head just about anywhere within the world of Gaia. Blank of the Tantalus gang is on board as Captain. If you don’t stop for sidequests, you actually only control this vessel for a short time — first to head to the Black Mage Village, then to find Kuja’s underground palace and finally to head to Esto Gaza to rescue Eiko. Nevertheless, Regent Cid is impressed with the ship’s performance and parts of from it are used for the construction of the airship Hilda Garde III.)
All right, cast your votes! (And, remember, the list above is only a reference — you can find the current results of battles on the first post in the thread.)
P.S.: Neither sidequests nor fighting duos have been done before — let’s keep those both in mind for future consideration.
Agent, you forgot the Theatre Ship from Ix ๐
Highwind – 7
Blue Narciss – 5
Good battle, but the Narciss was lagging from behind from the beginning and is unable to come back.
Second battle, here we come:
Falcon – Final Fantasy VI (The Falcon was Daryl’s airship in FFVI. Daryl was Setzer’s friend, who wanted to set every record. But she and her airship crashed, ending her dreams. Setzer restored the craft and laid it to rest. But when your party needs an airship to go after Kefka after Setzer’s was destroyed at the end of the World of Balance, you head off and retrieve this one. It’s really not all that different from the game’s original airship, but it still has its own charm.)
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Celsius – Final Fantasy X-2 (The airship for this game and the Gullwings’s base of operation. According to Buddy, he and Brother found this ship buried in ice and restored it. The two pilot the ship, though Cid refers to their piloting as "slipshod." It’s a sleek craft with powerful engines and bright coloring, though Cid, again, doesn’t like it, calling it "kitschy." The Celsius has a Deck where Yuna holds a concert, as well as a nap area and an engine room you can explore. However, it shares the same disadvantage [in some players’ eyes] that all post-FFIX airships share — you can’t pilot it yourself on a map, because there is no World Map. Instead, you just talk to Buddy, select your destination, and you’re there directly.)
Falcon – 8
Celsius – 5
Once again, a flurry of late votes wasn’t enough and it’s Daryl’s restored airship that continues to the second round.
Next battle:
Big Whale – Final Fantasy IV (One of the more interestingly iconic vessels within the series. It’s a whale that you use to blast off into space. You’ll need some special supplies to power it up. The Big Whale includes a place to rest and a fat chocobo for item storage.)
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Ragnarok – Final Fantasy VIII (The big one. The amazing airship that was the deal-killer on this edition of the rumble for so long. The Ragnarok features a sleek, mostly red-colored airship. You acquire it in space — it was actually one of a set of three that was sent up when Adel was given the big heave-ho. You clear out the Propagator monsters that have infested it and then once you bring it back down to the ground, it’s all yours. It’s the first airship in the series to feature auto-pilot — if you prefer not to fly it yourself, you can select a destination on the map [anything considered a "town" area] and it’ll automatically fly there. It also has some amazing firepower you use to bust your way into the Lunatic Pandora. You can regain the use of the Ragnarok on Disc 4 — the CC members will be there to play cards with if you completed that quest.)
Lets see the ragnorok fit a fat chocobo on it.
๐ Yes!
IT CAN FLY TO THE MOON!
Lets see the ragnorok fit a fat chocobo on it.
Big Whale – 5
Ragnarok – 8
The Ragnarok takes it to the second round, but it was hardly a blowout. In fact, it’s an exact match of the result for the last battle. Wonder how this fares for the FFVIII airship in future rounds.
Well, that’s not for right now. Right now, we’ve got another first round battle to do, so let’s get straight to it:
Tiny Bronco – Final Fantasy VII (A small plane crafted by Cid in this game. It’s nothing on the order of any sort of airship and even if it actually flew, you probably wouldn’t be able to board it or anything. As it is, though, you can’t fly it because when your party tries to take it and keep it away from the Shinra, it ends up crashing and is only usable as a boat, which can traverse coastline areas and rivers. Still, it’s enough to access most major areas of the world, with the exception of Mideel, the secret island areas and most of the northern continent. The Tiny Bronco is generally extremely slow to pilot, as you have to navigate your way around various coastlines to get to where you’re going. It disappears [presumably seized by the Shinra] once you obtain the Highwind aircraft.)
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Hilda Garde III – Final Fantasy IX (One of two airships that you gain control over in this game. As previously mentioned, the Hilda Garde III is constructed partly of parts from the ship Blue Narciss after Regent Cid regains human form. The original Hilda Garde airship was stolen; the second was constructed by Cid while he was an oglop and thus unstable. The Hilda Garde III can land anywhere on land except desert areas. It’s a bit on the slow side, though. AS mentioned with the Ragnarok, it includes the auto-pilot feature.)
Oh, BTW, congrats to Sobye, who managed to obtain the 3000th post in this thread (assuming you don’t count all the posts that were lost during the forum hack.) I thank everyone for their continued support. This thread is now nearly as large as original thread (Thread 12615), before it was closed because it was taking forever to load (that issue seems to have been resolved now, so I don’t think we’ll need to close this one.)
Oh man, I forgot to mention how much I hate that Whale, and the MOON ๐ก
Tiny Bronco – 5
Hilda Garde III – 12
Nice turnout, thanks. The Hilda Garde III moves easily to the next round, but Tiny Bronco, somewhat surprisingly to me, definitely had its supporters.
All right, the next battle is:
Rental Car – Final Fantasy VIII (A rather unique vehicle in the Final Fantasy series and one rather suited to the nature of FFVIII. Rental cars generally require one or more of the Fuel item in your inventory to run. You get to control cars [which I guess aren’t so much rental] for free when headed from Balamb Garden to Balamb for the big SeeD mission, and later with Selphie to the Missile Base. Otherwise, cars can be rented in major towns. You don’t get into any battles while trundling about in a car, which may not be the best idea if you want to maintain your SeeD rank.)
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Recovered Airship / Fahrenheit – Final Fantasy X (An airship salvaged by the Al Bhed, you visit the ruins of it with Rikku towards the start of the game. Later on, you board this airship when the Al Bhed have to abandon and destroy Home — and Cid uses some pretty powerful forbidden machina on the ship to do it. You use this ship to search for and find Yuna and go out onto the deck for some major battles, including the one with the Evrae wyrm and later Sin. Once again, the ship’s artillery comes in handy. The ship also has a powerful intercom system that is used to pipe the Hymn of the Fayth to the citizens of Spira, who rally to the call to join in. The "Fahrenheit" name, which I just recently learned about, comes from the game’s Ultimania translation.)
And w00t @ 3000th post!
If you were to cruise Deling City in that beaut, the usual atmosphere would feel even seedier than if you were to travel on foot. That’s an accomplishment in and of itself.
Also:
And LOL @ Yuna’s fmv pics.
Haha.
memories of Bahamut Lagoon….
Fahrenheit – 5
Rental Car wins, but in many cases it seemed to be largely a vote against the first-ever airship that you couldn’t take control of to pilot around the map.
Next battle up is:
Submarine – Final Fantasy VII (Another quite unique vehicle within the series and your opportunity to trundle about under the sea. There are actually two different submarines you can get — a gray one and a red one. You get the gray one if you succeed at the submarine mission, but if you lose, you can go back and get the red one instead. You are required to use the submarine to acquire the Key to the Ancients. The submarine can also be used to access the sunken Gelnika, to get you to Emerald Weapon, to recover Huge Materia [if you succeeded in the sub mission] and to access the secret cave with Lucrecia [though that can also be accessed with a mountain chocobo.])
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Invincible – Final Fantasy IX (You get control of this airship after using it to flee from Terra. You only have command of it on Disc 4, so your time with it is really quite limited, and in fact, the only time some gamers may use it is when they fly to the gateway to Memoria to head off for the final battles. It’s someone zippier than the Hilda Garde III, though it’s also kinda, um… spooky to some players, being the ship with the giant "eye" that caused such destruction. Unlike the HGIII, the Invincible can land in desert areas, allowing you to access areas such as the island with the Yans, which is otherwise only accessible with a gold chocobo.)
That’s because I actually liked how to I got to kick so much Shinra ass on the way to getting it. Plus watching Emerald from a distance was always a bit scary but kinda cool. +minigame (although it kinda was lame) and Lucrecia’s cave…ramble ramble.
Taking control over an airship that slaughtered Madain Sari and turned Alexandria into a pile of rubble
That’s because I actually liked how to I got to kick so much Shinra ass on the way to getting it. Plus watching Emerald from a distance was always a bit scary but kinda cool. +minigame (although it kinda was lame) and Lucrecia’s cave…ramble ramble.
+ nice underwater music.
Although the music is probably my least favourite track in the whole FFIX OST
Submarine – 5
Invincible – 11
Pretty typical of the type of results we’ve been getting so far for this edition. Well, we have two battles left to go before we reach the second round. Here’s the first of those two:
Blackjack – Final Fantasy VI (The first airship you attain control of in FFVI. Being Setzer’s airship, it’s loaded up with card tables. There’s also some merchants there who give you options to rest and do some shopping. This airship breaks up in two and is lost when the World of Balance ends. But you need to reach it and wait for Shadow in order to save him.)
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Buggy – Final Fantasy VII (Once you win the chocobo race and free yourself from the Desert Prison, Aeris/th calls up on the PHS and announces that Dio gave your party a buggy. The buggy can cross desert areas and shallow rivers. Also, you can even drive into Costa del Sol and then stowaway on the Cargo Ship and it’ll come along with you. You get into battles while riding the buggy, but not as many as you would if you were hoofing it, since you move around so much more quickly. If you try to drive the buggy past Cosmo Canyon before completing the events there, it breaks down. You can’t take the buggy past Nibelheim, but you can come back to it once you get the Tiny Bronco. Like the Bronco, it disappears [presumably seized by the Shinra] once you get the Highwind.)
The buggy can’t fly so it doesn’t get my vote. But I do give it credit for being able to cross over shallow rivers. I don’t know of any other vehicles that can do that.
Blackjack – 10
Buggy – 5
"The Amish" Buggy goes down, though not by a huge margin. We’ve reached the final battle of the first round:
Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII (This "vehicle" gave you an unusual amount of access for something that wasn’t an airship. Balamb Garden is the school Squall + Co attend, which trains SeeDs. They didn’t have any idea it had mobile capabilities, but when Sorceress Edea sends missiles at it, they have to do something to save it. So Cid sends Squall and his party to check into something he had heard about and they discover it used to be a mobile shelter. Balamb Garden can travel land and sea — basically as long as there’s a coastline then you can access it. Nida is the pilot. Eventually, you get into a thrilling confrontation with Galbadia Garden. After you get the Raganarok, you can still go back to Balamb Garden if you want — it’ll still be docked at Fisherman’s Horizon.)
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Strahl – Final Fantasy XII (Balthier’s airship. You first use it early in the game, though you don’t actually take command of it. Towards the very end of the game, you gain access to it and a series of Anchors are set up which can be used in conjunction with the Gate Crystals. But you don’t actually ever get to go aboard it.)
it’s not a fair fight for Strahl…
Balamb Garden No question at all.
But would it have been a fair fight against anything? I kinda had the feeling Strahl was going to be cannon-fodder no matter what. Now we can end this blowout and get moving with the second round.
Balamb Garden – 11
Strahl – <font color="red">0</font>
So it’s Balamb Garden by a landslide. Let’s take a look at what’s left for the second round:
Blackjack – Final Fantasy VI
Falcon – Final Fantasy VI
Highwind – Final Fantasy VII
Rental Car – Final Fantasy VIII
Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII
Ragnarok – Final Fantasy VIII[
Hilda Garde III – Final Fantasy IX
Invincible – Final Fantasy IX
This list is only for reference — you can find the current results on the first post in the thread. All right, first battle, second round:
Highwind – Final Fantasy VII (Tifa: "My cheeks hurt a bit. Forget about that, what’s this all about?" Cait Sith: "Well, I’ll catch the details later. In any case, the Airship, Highwind, is now yours.")
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Invincible – Final Fantasy IX (Freya: "Hold it! Where is Quina!?" Eiko: "Aaargh! Is s/he late again!?" Quina: "Ho ho ho! I arrive! I warp inside from bottom of ship!" Vivi: "Why were you underneath the ship in the first place…?" Freya: "Save it for later! We must get the ship moving!")
Invincible – the first blood tainted airship in FF history
or
Highwind – the first FF airship in my history sob.. ^_T
Freya: "Hold it! Where is Quina!?" Eiko: "Aaargh! Is s/he late again!?" Quina: "Ho ho ho! I arrive! I warp inside from bottom of ship!" Vivi: "Why were you underneath the ship in the first place…?" Freya: "Save it for later! We must get the ship moving!"
Highwind – 6
Invincible – 9
A string of late votes there wasn’t enough to save the Highwind, but that’s teh best battle we’ve had in a while here. Invincible it is to the semi-finals.
Next battle:
Falcon – Final Fantasy VI (Daryl: "If something should happen to me, the Falcon’s yours!" Setzer: "Nonsense! I’ll win the Falcon from you when I whip you in a race. You’d better clear outta my way!" Daryl: "Big talk, buster!")
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Rental Car – Final Fantasy VIII ("When you rent a car, we offer a full tank, free of charge. You can buy extra fuel at item shops. We charge a flat rate for our rentals. As soon as you drive back into the city, your rental period ends, so make sure you can get the most out of it.")
Never used the rental cars.
a fully operational airship recovered from a grave
You never really need to use the rental cars at all.
Rental Car – 3
The Rental Car only manages to scrape three votes, so it’s FFVI’s Falcon airship to the semi-finals. Next battle:
Ragnarok – Final Fantasy VIII (Airstation: "Congratulations. You’re home free, Ragnarok. And… There’s one more thing we need to tell you. From all of us at Ground Control, we wish you godspeed.")
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Hilda Garde III – Final Fantasy IX (Crew Member: "Excuse me! Please let me know if you’d like to switch out your party members! I shall assist you in any way that I can during your journey." Zidane: "You don’t have to be so formal. Let’s just relax and enjoy our flight.")
Well, here we are again with the Ragnarok. How will it fare this time? Cast your votes!
I vote for Ragnarok this round ๐
72 hours? Ok, I don’t see a problem.
Hilda Garde III – 7
The Ragnarok does it again, zipping on the semi-finals. But it was definitely a competitive battle. Will the HGIII be the toughest competition the Ragnarok had to face, or might it still go down. We’ll see…
Regarding the time issue, I haven’t yet heard back from the two people I most wanted to hear back about it from — beat and Xandy, so I think I’ll hold off until at least the end of this next battle before making any solid decisions about it.
Final battle of the second round:
Blackjack – Final Fantasy VI (Celes: "Setzer, we need your help. We have to go to Vector. We need this ship to get there." Setzer: "Look, if you’re not Maria, I don’t want you aboard." Celes: "Wait! We were told your ship is the finest vessel in the world." Locke: "And that you were the world’s most notorious gambler…" Edgar: "I’m King Edgar of Figaro. If you cooperate, you’ll be well-rewarded.")
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Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII (Master Fisherman: "Will you look at this? Lots of places I’ve been fishin’ for years, all gone. Terrible." Squall: "I’m sorry…We were responsible." Master Fisherman: "Oh yeah…Well, don’t worry about it, boy. Darn near killed me… Just kiddin’!")
Oh, and do whatever the majority says, Agent. I’m always here anyway.
As for this round: Balamb Garden. I really don’t see how this one could lose to tell you the truth.
Balamb Garden
It seems that Blackjack is going to be eaten alive just like poor Strahl…
Don’t mess with Balamb Garden!!!
Balamb Garden – 8
Battle ended by blowout. And based the overall thoughts, it looks like we’ll be sticking with the 48 hour deadline. Except, in cases like this, where there’s a blowout.
Semi-finals!
Here’s what’s left:
Falcon – Final Fantasy VI
Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII
Ragnarok – Final Fantasy VIII
Invincible – Final Fantasy IX
First battle:
Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII (Nida: "Squall! Get back to the [bridge] right away!" Squall: "Zell, I’m counting on you. Good luck, everyone." Zell: "Time to get it ON!")
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Ragnarok – Final Fantasy VIII (Quistis: "I wonder if we can get through." Irvine: "Ahh, don’t worry about it." Quistis: "Are the machine guns and main cannon ready?" Selphie: "Rrready! Let’s just fire like crazy and make a big hole, BOOM!")
The clash of FFVIII. This should be an interesting one indeed. Both of these have had great support, but which actually comes out on top?
What he said!
Sorry it has to go up against the Ragnarok though: I love you Wong Ching-Man but…
The surreal Balamb Garden has: attractive female coeds, impeccable architecture, overrated hot dogs, otherworldly music round-the-clock, and Xu (she could’ve been easily grouped with "attractive female coeds," but personally, I believe she merits special mention).
Vote for it.
Now from a technical standpoint, the Ragnarok is clearly the superior mode of transportation; however, in order to acquire that sunuvabitch, you had to battle with a color-based, husband/wife team of Propagators (one after the other, mind you) – 4 times overs, and sustain through a mind-numbingly bad tune (fucking Nobuo).
If you were to literally immerse yourself into the game, which would you choose?
Superficiality is the way to go!
Balamb Garden
Military academy as a mean of transport beats even Ruby Weapon as a spaceship
Ragnarok – 8
Whoo! Tie situation! Who could have predicted this? All right, this battle is ended, I’m on a break for work right now and I’m not sure I have time to process the tie and start the next battle. So watch for an edit to this post — either in a few minutes, or a few hours…
Ragnarok – 8/13, 10/17 = Whatever, not calculating, obviously too low…
Balamb Garden – 11/11, 8/8 = 100%
All right, the results are obvious, looks like you guys gave lots of love to Balamb Garden in previous rounds. And so in of our biggest upsets to date, the Ragnarok is out.
Falcon – Final Fantasy VI (Edgar: "This is THE Falcon?" Setzer: "I put it in storage. I couldn’t bear to look at it. But now it just may save us… The Falcon.")
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Invincible – Final Fantasy IX (Kuja: "It’s so beautiful… Alexander…the legendary eidolon… So, you wish to defend the castle with your brilliant wings…? How admirable… Your powers even transcend Bahamut’s… Alexander, I’ve been waiting for you. I’ve called a magic carriage for you. I’m sure you’ll like it. Invincible, come forth! You’re mine, Alexander!")
Falcon.
Falcon – 6
Invincible – 10
Captain America – 1
Good battle, Invincible goes on to the next round. Oh, and that’s the Final! Well, let’s take a look at it:
Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII (Squall: "We’re moving!?" Headmaster Cid: "I see…So this is the secret…" Rinoa: "…Wow!" Irvine "…This is amazing…" Zell: "Oh man…! This is awesome!")
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Invincible – Final Fantasy IX (Kuja: "Hahahahaha! This is too easy! The Invincible is mine! Now, I have the power to control all souls! Garland gave me everything without a fight. The old fool was too busy dealing with him. Now, only death awaits him. Poor Garland… Bitten by his own dog… This is no accident. Fate has chosen me to become the new ruler of Terra! Time for me to put on the finishing touches.")
Airships have generally been favored in this edition, but Balamb Garden has pulled off some big wins and has been this edition’s "Cinderella story." What will be the final results here? Cast your votes!
ffviii sucked
ffviii rulz.
When it goes to vehicles FFVIII is peerless
ffviii sucked
All right, so the results on the final battle of this edition are:
Balamb Garden – 12
Invincible – 5
Our winner, then, by a large margin:
Balamb Garden
Well, there you have it. In the edition where many thought the airship Ragnarok seemed sure to win, it didn’t even make the finals. Instead, congratulations to the winner — a completely different vehicle from that game – Balamb Garden — the mobile school whose rediscovered capabilities saved it from a devastating missile attack.
Stay tuned in a couple days for the next edition!
Hi Agent0042 you are one of my favorite members ever!
Because Selphie in Irvine’s hat is mad cute and stuff.
Most Joyful–Johnny C Bad (VI)
Most Intense:Otherworld (X), Hunter’s Chance (IX), The Decisive Battle (VI)
Most Intense: Liberi Fatali (VIII),
Most Emotional: Kindom of Burmecia (VIII)
Fixed :smrt:
Emotional: Forgotten Face (IX)
Most Intense: Liberi Fatali (VIII) One Winged Angel (VII) Battle Theme (VI)
Most Emotional: Terra`s theme (VI) To Zanarkand (X) Ami (VIII) Theme of Crisis Core "Succession" (CC:FFVII) You Are not Alone (IX)
Most Joyful
Ahead on Our Way – Final Fantasy V
Johnny C Bad – Final Fantasy VI
Relm – Final Fantasy VI
Cid’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII
The Winner – Final Fantasy VIII
Zidane’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
We Are Thieves! – Final Fantasy IX
The Splendid Performance – Final Fantasy X
Most Relaxing
Kids Run Through the City Corner – Final Fantasy VI
The Serpent Trench – Final Fantasy VI
Flowers Blooming in the Church – Final Fantasy VII
Farm Boy – Final Fantasy VII
Roses and Wine – Final Fantasy VIII
Love Grows – Final Fantasy VIII
Eiko’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Vamo ‘alla Flamenco – Final Fantasy IX
Most Emotional
Opening Theme – Final Fantasy VI
Terra – Final Fantasy VI
Succession – Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core (Theme)
Ami – Final Fantasy VIII
Loss of Me / Rose of May – Final Fantasy IX
Forgotten Face / A Face Unforgotten – Final Fantasy IX
To Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X
Revealed Truth – Final Fantasy X
Most Intense
The Decisive Battle – Final Fantasy VI
Battle Theme – Final Fantasy VI
One Winged Angel – Final Fantasy VII
Liberi Fatali – Final Fantasy VIII
Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX
Otherworld – Final Fantasy X
Summoned Beast Battle – Final Fantasy X
As always, the list above is for reference and the updated results are on the first page of the thread. First battle:
The Winner – Final Fantasy VIII (FFVIII’s victory theme. Played, obviously, win you win a battle.)
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The Splendid Performance – Final Fantasy X (This plays in Luca after the blitzball tournament, but I believe only if the Aurochs win.)
First battle, from the first category, most joyful. Cast your votes.
The Winner – 1
The Splendid Performance – 13
FFVIII’s "The Winner" only manages to grab one vote and so it’s "The Splendid Performance" on to the second round. Next up, from the Most Relaxing Category:
Farm Boy – Final Fantasy VII (This tune is heard in the Chocobo Ranch. It’s also used during the portion of the flashback sequence with Zack and Cloud while they’re on the road to Midgar. A vocal version of this tune is featured on Uematsu’s Final Fantasy Songbook album.)
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Eiko’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX (Eiko’s theme music is used at several points throughout the game. It’s heard throughout the various Eiko ATE scenes in Madain Sari. A version of it that also includes elements of "Melodies of Life" is heard during her sequences at the start of Disc 3 in Alexandria Castle.)
For the most part, I’ve never been a fan of "country music," and "Farm Boy" was hardly a tune that served as an incentive for me to venture into that musical genre. In other words, I just thought it sucked, to be honest.
Pumpkin bomb
Lots and lots of nuts♪
♪Get the water goin’
A good shake o’ salt♫
Eiko’s Theme.
For This Round:Eiko’s Theme
I don’t really remember the tune to Eiko’s Theme, which means it obviously wasn’t interesting enough to work its way into the vast area of my memory devoted to gaming. On the other hand, I remember Farm Boy well.
Farm Boy – 2
Eiko’s Theme – 10
Eiko’s Theme the clear favorite, though Farm Boy manages to scrape a couple votes. Cute quote, Lin_Dai_Yu, thanks!
All right, next battle, from the Most Emotional category:
Opening Theme – Final Fantasy VI (The Opening Theme of FFVI. Plays when you first start a new game. A somewhat ominous, atmospheric theme to start out. As it continues, and you transition into the opening credits, a version of "Terra / Tina" plays.)
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To Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X ("Listen to my story. This may be our last chance." This theme plays during the game’s opening intro and is also used when the sequence is reprised when you actually reach the ruins of Zanarkand.)
"Listen to my story. This may be our last chance."
By far one of the best intros in a FF game for me. And an important reason is the musc ๐
though i prefer Otherworld
The Final Fantasy X OST is quite possibly my favorite soundtrack of Nobuo Uematsu’s discography, and even then, I can’t understand why there is all this fuss over "Zanarkand." Also, I personally believe that "Via Purifico" would’ve made a way better piano-laced, opening theme than "Zanarkand," and wouldn’t be the least bit shocked if it were considered for that role at one point.
While I find "Zanarkand" to be dull, and most notably, misplaced as an appropriate opening theme due in part to its uneventfulness, I can’t say the same for "Omen." At all.
Since "Omen" was fundamentally comprised of different compositions which melded together flawlessly, Nobuo was able to evoke a polar contrast of emotion from many a person who have listened to it for the first time (or continually) within a span of a little over four minutes. I think that’s rather impressive.
That’s what an opening theme should be; that’s what it should do, in my opinion.
"Listen to my story. This may be our last chance."
By far one of the best intros in a FF game for me. And an important reason is the musc ๐
Opening Theme – 3
To Zanarkand – 9
Some vocal support for FFVI’s Opening Theme, but To Zanarkand definitely the preferred tuned.
All right, now we do a battle from the final category, Most Intense and then were start back from the top of the categories:
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX (Used during the Festival of the Hunt in Lindblum.)
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Summoned Beast Battle – Final Fantasy X (What it says it is. This is the tune that plays when you have to fight all of Yuna’s aeons. She has to summon each one and watch as it is possessed by Yu Yevon, then taken down. Only then can Yu Yevon be defeated.)
The orchestration and scenery were as invigorating as the battle itself, if not more so.
Hunter’s Chance – 8
Summoned Beast Battle – 6
It’s "Hunter’s Chance," the Festival of the Hunt tune from FFIX by a couple votes.
Best battle we’ve had so far in this edition. All right, we return now to the Most Joyful category for the next battle. Here we go:
Relm – Final Fantasy VI (Relm’s theme plays at least a couple different points in the game. It can be heard when she’s first introduced in Thamasa. It also plays later during the battle with Ultros when she shows up and paints his portrait.)
vs.
We Are Thieves! – Final Fantasy IX (This lively tune plays in FFIX during various scenes with the Tantalus gang.)
Neither of those melodies are ones I’m zealous about, but "Relm’s Theme" bores me to tears. At least with the other tune, I could mildly dislike it consciously!
I wouldn’t exactly call it joyful but i’m still going to vote for it.
Relm – <font color="red">0</font>
We Are Thieves! – 8
"We Are Thieves!" sails into the next round. So long for "Relm." Next up, from Most Relaxing:
Kids Run Through the City Corner – Final Fantasy VI (I seem to recall that this plays in at least a couple of towns. I think it also played during the sequence in Thamasa just before Kefka showed up and started his little Magitek mayhem.)
vs.
Vamo ‘alla Flamenco – Final Fantasy IX (This plays during the swordfight in the play at the beginning of the game. It’s also used during Chocobo Hot and Cold. Actually, I’m not really sure how this is relaxing, myself, but it was nominated, so here it is.)
Coming off as a IX fanboy but I truly love this tune. Always made me want to dance, which, trust me, is harder than convincing Ahab that maybe whale-hunting is not his forte.
Vamo ‘alla Flamenco is good but, like Agent0042 says, it’s not very relaxing. Happy/Jolly maybe… Eheh, I repeated that sword fight so many times that the tune really stuck in my head.
Oh, and it’s one of my favorite songs ever, which is why I nominated it :p
Kids run through the city does sound more soft and more gentle, but if I wanted to relax I would go with Vamo ‘alla Flamenco.
Kids Run Through the City (Corner) – 7
Vama ‘alla Flamenco – 9
Great, great battle! Vamma ‘alla Flamenco wins by just a couple votes. BTW, for those that voted for "Kids Run Through the City (Corner)," can anyone tell me if there’s any particular reason why you deleted the "Corner" part? That’s how it’s listed on my copy of the soundtrack.
Next up, from Most Emotional:
Terra / Tina – Final Fantasy VI (The theme tune for this character. Used as the world map theme throughout the World of Balance. Also varied in a couple of other tunes featured in the game.)
vs.
Succession – Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core (Theme) (I… haven’t played Crisis Core and don’t know this tune. But it was nominated, so here it is. If anyone can come up with a link, it’d be much appreciated.)
Like I said in another thread, I’ve seen the title written both ways so many times that I’ve never been sure which is correct. It’s actually written as Kids Run Through the City on the bonus disc that comes with Anthology (the PSX port of V & VI).
Well, I bought my copy of the Final Fantasy VI Original Soundtrack from the iTunes Store, and that’s how it’s listed!
Many times, you’ll end up getting slightly varied titles when the kanji/romaji is translated to English. Anyway, taking everything into consideration, I believe both are, not only acceptable, but official as well.
If you haven’t heared the successor, here it is
http://yamaneko.wrzuta.pl/audio/Aa23EIGQb7/theme_of_crisis_core_successor
Terra / Tina – 8
Succession – <font color="red">0</font>
Next up, from Most Intense:
Battle Theme – Final Fantasy VI (FFVI’s normal battle theme.)
vs.
Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII (The music played when you fight Ultimecia junctioned with Griever.)
All the regular battle themes do sound intense, but Maybe I’m a Lion sounds more intense.
As far as I’m concerned, it’s such a stupid title for a wonderful composition.
FFVIII’s music was excellent, and this is one of the best in that game.
because I don’t hate it after a thousands of random encounters…
Battle Theme – 5
Maybe I’m a Lion – 13
Battle Theme tries to put on a comeback, but Maybe I’m a Lion the definite favorite here. Next up, from Most Joyful:
Ahead on Our Way – Final Fantasy V (This tune is used during the game’s opening demo sequence, when you’re at the menu.)
vs.
Zidane’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX (This is Zidane’s theme music, obviously. It plays only once in the game, when you’re boarding the cargo ship bound for Alexandria, which Zidane hijacks and steers to Lindblum. ["Ooh, soft."])
Upon first listen, not completely through, I was not really all that impressed with "Zidane’s Theme," yet when the tempo slowed down at 0:56, I became more intrigued by the tune and where it was heading. Finally, at 1:57, when an arranged version of "Unrequited Love" commenced, Nobuo Uematsu totally had me in awe of the track as a whole.
Anyway, Zidane’s Theme was great. I’ve just had a listen to the MIDI of FFV’s Ahead on our Way and it’s pretty cool, but the ‘ooh, soft’ bit swings it for me. ๐
Good to see the rumbles are still active. You’ll have to get me some rumble stats from over the years, Agent.
Zidane’s Theme – 13
This one got me confused, as Ahead on our Way is also the name of the theme that plays in Kalm in FFVII.
Yeah, guess I shouldn’t mentioned that. Same name, but very different tunes.
Good to see the rumbles are still active. You’ll have to get me some rumble stats from over the years, Agent.
There was a thread done a while back about the rumbles, here, lemme see if I can dig it up… Yeah, here we go. Take a look at this (Thread 33489).
Okay, next battle, from Most Relaxing:
The Serpent Trench – Final Fantasy VI (This is the tune used when you’re traveling underwater, aided by Gau’s "shiny thing." This tune is also used when you’re traveling to the ruins of the ancient castle, the one where you find Odin / Raiden.)
vs.
Roses and Wine – Final Fantasy VIII (I’m not 100% on this, but I’m almost certain this is the tune used during the Laguna sequence when Laguna is talking with Julia in the hotel room.)
While I was playing Final Fantasy VI and heard this track for the first time, it absolutely took my breath away, and to this very day, it still has that effect on me.
It’s one of those gems that’ll result in you placing your controller down, and taking a moment to listen to the surrealism embedded within.
It’s quite the experience!
Roses and Wine for this round
I am not sure about Ahead on Our Way" playing in Kalm… but "Anxious Heart" also plays at Gogonga, Niebelheim(after the flashback), the Train Graveyard, and Kalm(i think after disc 1 it does anyway) at every mako reactor, it plays " Mako Reactor". on Mount Corel, it plays holding my thoughts in my heart but when you get to North Corel it plays some other song(forgot the name)
keep in mind i could be wrong (and probably) am since i havent played in a while
romantic ff sounds ftw
The Serpent Trench – 9
Roses and Wine – 11
What a rally. "Roses and Wine" wins, I agree with your thoughts about "The Serpent Trench," though, Splintered. Oh, and Hawk_eye and I talked it over and we agreed that it’s one of those switch-up deals — "Ahead on Our Way" plays in Kalm in Disc 1, but it changes you later, because, you know, Meteor and all. Oh, and I was wrong about "Anxious Heart" playing in Corel.
Next up, from Most Emotional:
Forgotten Face / A Face Unforgotten – Final Fantasy IX (A.K.A. "Fratley’s Theme," plays during certain Fratley scenes.)
vs.
Revealed Truth (A.K.A. "The Truth Revealed." This is played when, well, the truth is revealed. Tidus finds out exactly what the real deal is, that summoners are being "sacrificed" for the Summoning, that if Yuna calls the Final Aeon, she’s gonna die.)
Forgotten Face.
Allow me to add another:
Unforgettable Silhouette
—
You people became lovesick at an inopportune time! However, regardless of my slight disappointment, "Roses and Wine" is a first-rate melody, I suppose.
I’m much more dumbfounded by the resurgence of votes for that particular track than let down, if anything.
Forgotten Face / A Face Unforgotten / Unforgettable Silhouette – 11
Revealed Truth / The Truth Revealed – 7
So the FFIX piece rallies; it makes it into the second round. Now, from the Most Intense category:
One Winged Angel – Final Fantasy VII (I think everyone knows by now that this is the battle music for Safer Sephiroth. There’s a chorus chanting along throughout the song, unless you have the PC version, in which case you don’t get to hear it.)
vs.
Otherworld – Final Fantasy X (This plays during the blitzball FMV / Sin attack towards the start of the game in Zanarkand. Also used as the battle music for Braska’s Final Aeon.)
Otherworld…
What could I possibly say? It’s one of the worst, if not the worst, tracks Nobuo Uematsu has ever been involved with devising. Entirely repulsive "tunes" such as: Critter Tripper Fritter!? (Final Fantasy V – Dear Friends), Gold Saucer (Final Fantasy VII), Before the Altar (Final Fantasy IX), and Mi’ihen Highroad (Final Fantasy X) sound like musical gold to these ears of mine, when in comparison with that medley of noise and incoherent growling – which, unfortunately, is off to an excellent start in this round.
Seriously.
My main gripe with Otherworld, other than those previously stated cons of mine, is its timing:
Fantastic! Let me welcome this musical equivalent to a chainsaw blaring through my headphones, right after I’m sedated by "Tidus’s Theme." I’d like to not retain some of my sanity, be caught off-guard, and have the fine hairs on my neck stand on end from this accidental exposure; thank you very much!
Anyway, One Winged Angel for me. Possibly the best music for a final boss in any FF.
Although the version of Otherworld by The Black Mages (in which Uematsu plays keyboards, and of course composed everything) is a lot better than the original one. A softer, non-barking female voice is probably for a lot of the improvement.
Conversely, a genuinely good track shouldn’t be snubbed because one may view it as "overrated," or feel as if they’re making a statement by voting for the lesser-known choice.
One Winged Angel – 8
Otherworld – 12
A much better battle than I expected. "Otherworld" wins fairly solidly and continues to the second round, which is drawing ever closer. Only one battle left in each category, and here’s the first of those from Joyful:
Johnny C Bad – Final Fantasy VI (A sort of jazzy tune. I believe this plays in the Coliseum when you’re not fighting a battle.)
vs.
Cid’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII (This is played when you first meet Cid in the rocket and he says that he’s "the Captain." It’s also used in various Cid-related scenes. Plays as both the world map and flying the airship theme after you’ve made the decision to return to Midgar.)
Cids theme, not exactly joyful, more saddening then anything.
There really is something epic about that theme! One of my all time favorite in FF VII.
Johnny C. Bad is great too. Very fun to play on the piano. But I have a preference for epicness. ^_^
Johnny C. Bad!
Yuna: I’ll follow your orders, Leader!
Brother: Uh… Aha! As leader, I order Yuna to decide!
My memory has clearly become foggy, I figure.
I was under the impression that I remembered hating "Johnny C. Bad," and when I gave it a listen for this occasion, I thought to myself, "Heh. At best, this tune is actually decent. I often skip this one on my iPod, so I guess I had forgotten how it sounds!" Then, I scrolled upward to listen to "Spinach Rag," and after only approximately 20 seconds of hearing that crap before abruptly changing the track, I concluded that I had finally found the culprit.
Pertaining to "Cid’s Theme," it certainly is epic! After "Descendant of Shinobi" ("Yuffie’s Theme"), it’s my second favorite character theme of FFVII.
Johnny C Bad – 4
Cid’s Theme – 13
Two early votes for Johnny C Bad, but then Cid’s Theme really took flight. It goes on to the second round. Now, our final first round battle for the Most Relaxing category:
Flowers Blooming in the Church – Final Fantasy VII (A version of Aeris/th’s Theme. Plays, well, in the church of course. Also plays in her house and in a couple of other Aeris/th related sequences.)
vs.
Love Grows – Final Fantasy VIII (Another "Eyes on Me" variation. I think this is used in at least a couple of Rinoa-related scenes, though I’m not 100% certain. I think it may be the music that plays when Squall is transporting Rinoa along the bridge from FH to Esthar. It’s one of the lengthier ones.)
Love Grows
I must admit. I am quite the sucker for all of the arrangements of "Eyes on Me."
The scene where Squall treks from Fisherman’s Horizon to Esthar, all while carrying a limp Rinoa on his back, was truly one to remember and cherish.
The lush sounds of "Love Grows" playing in the background made that event nothing short of an "o shi- moment" in gaming history.
All right, I’m overstating a bit. Still, it’s miles better than "Flowers Blooming In the Church."
A really emotional theme.
Like he said:
Love Grows
I must admit. I am quite the sucker for all of the arrangements of "Eyes on Me."
That and the fact that except for a few tracks on FF VII’s ost, most of them have pretty weak sound samplings that are really annoying to my ears. This ends up with me not appreciating most of these themes as much as if they were sampled with FF VIII’s sound quality.
I don’t know if I’m the only one in that case, but I always though that, even if the polyphony is better, the sound quality of the sampling weren’t even as good as in FF VI.
So even if the composition is stellar, this particular sound quality makes me choose a theme that MAY not be as good overall (I’m not really sure, to be honest), but I go for this one because there is just nothing for me to nitpick about it.
Flowers Blooming in the Church.
Not really the type of music I would listen to to relax but if I had to pick one it would be Love Grows.
but seriously…Flowers Blooming in the Church
Flowers Blooming in the Church – 9
Love Grows – 10
I guess it was prophetic — the person who nominated the piece not even voting for it. "Love Grows" moves on to the second round by just one vote.
And now, on the next battle, from Most Emotional:
Ami – Final Fantasy VIII ("Eyes on Me" variation again. This is used in a few different points int he game, I think. I seem to recall a debate a while back about exactly when it plays, but I definitely recall it playing at one point during the reminiscence scenes in Trabia Garden. I think maybe it starts up when Irvine starts talking about how he doesn’t believe in life having all these different paths you can take, so on, so on.)
vs.
Loss of Me / Rose of May – Final Fantasy IX (This is "Beatrix’s theme." It’s used in several scenes related to her, including when you first see her expressing doubts about Queen Brahne’s actions. I prefer the "Rose of May" title, though you often see it listed under the other name.)
Man, Eyes on Me is a great piece but it doesn’t come close to Beatrix’s theme, if you ask me. Besides, all these variations are starting to get annoying. They’re, like, in every round.
My, my. The other major theme that has several versions throughout FFVIII, the "Friend" theme.
This piano-heavy variation causes you to become more enveloped with the story as a whole, even through that horrid "Lol. GFs make us go senile. Let’s, out of the clear blue, remember one another for the sake of this person playing." moment of the game in Trabia, it ups its believability.
The track oozes emotion, and as inferred earlier, it adds greatly to the sincere appeal of the main party’s flashbacks as young children under the care of Edea. Not to sound like a cornball, though there’s really no other way for me to put it, but it’s a heartwarming tune, and should be played on cue when opened in a Hallmark card!
I didn’t mean that very last part, just for the record.
On the other side of things, "Roses of May" fails to impress, and I think it’s almost as overrated as the character it was composed for.
She even questioned the behaviour of her queen when she said that she could have easily taken Cleyra, I noticed some regret there and when she said "Maybe Steiner was right…" she believes Steiner turned against the Queen because of similar intentions to her feelings about their Queen.
Man, Eyes on Me is a great piece but it doesn’t come close to Beatrix’s theme, if you ask me.
The other choice sounded kinda boring!
I luv ya Beatrix, even though u were such a cheap ***** and kicked my butt to 1 HP several times while in god mode,yet I still luv ya…
But I would love to choose Rose of May too, but this time Ami wins.
Rose of May.
Loss of Me / Rose of May – 13
The glut of "Eyes on Me" variations sends people scrambling to vote for something that isn’t one. "Ami" gets a fair few supporters, but it’s ye theme of Beatrix that makes it into the second round. And we’re nearly there, but we still have one more battle first. From Most Intense, that’s:
The Decisive Battle – Final Fantasy VI (This is FFVI’s standard boss battle theme.)
vs.
Liberi Fatali – Final Fantasy VIII (This is the music used during FFVIII’s opening FMV.)
Seeing as how the chronological elements of plot are present, you could formulate an engrossing narrative of your own with this grand, operatic orchestration, except that it leaves you with a cliffhanger – one that’ll entice the player to scramble for its resolution and conclusion.
What a way to start the game off!
Indeed, opening a game with a video that simply makes no sense to the player is the smartest way to start a game!
Although Liberi Fatali is still quite a great piece!
The Decisive Battle
Indeed, opening a game with a video that simply makes no sense to the player is the smartest way to start a game!
I think it should be noted that the thing we must vote on here isn’t the cut-scenes in which the theme songs play, but the theme songs THEMSELVES.
Also, the intro of FF VIII might not make much sense at first, but once you’ve completed the game, you understand that all of it is a "time-loop feedback". An "after"-effect of the time-compression.
one of the most obvious choices in my life, heh
This is a pretty hard one, I think if it was decisive battle from Final Fantasy V, I would of picked that then. I had been listening to both of the decisive battle songs a lot recently so I can remember them pretty well.
The Decisive Battle – 5
Liberi Fatali – 10
Well, that’s the end of the first round. So let’s take a look at what’s left for the second:
Most Joyful
Cid’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII
Zidane’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
We Are Thieves! – Final Fantasy IX
The Splendid Performance – Final Fantasy X
Most Relaxing
Roses and Wine – Final Fantasy VIII
Love Grows – Final Fantasy VIII
Eiko’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Vamo ‘alla Flamenco – Final Fantasy IX
Most Emotional
Terra / Tina – Final Fantasy VI
Loss of Me / Rose of May – Final Fantasy IX
Forgotten Face / A Face Unforgotten – Final Fantasy IX
To Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X
Most Intense
Liberi Fatali – Final Fantasy VIII
Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX
Otherworld – Final Fantasy X
As usual, the above list is only for reference. If you want the updated results, check the first post in the thread.
All right, after the second round, the categories drop away. And for this round, I’m going to start mixing up the battles a bit, not go straight down the list of categories. So, first battle:
Terra / Tina – Final Fantasy VI (Guard: "Eh? …… Who might you be?" Locke: "This is the pits. We’d better hightail it southward, to Figaro.")
vs.
Forgotten Face / A Face Unforgotten – Final Fantasy IX (Fratley: "I’m sorry, but I cannot remember you for the life of me…" Freya: "Y-You jest! You cannot have forgotten me! It’s me, Freya! Freya of Burmecia!!")
Terra~Tina
I play the piano version of that theme almost every week… for practice. ^^
EDIT: "I play the piano version" not "A play the…"
Heads- Terra / Tina
Tails- Forgotten Face / A Face Unforgotten
It ended up as heads so i’m going with Terra / Tina.
I guess that one probably should get my vote now that I think about it. That song always reminds me of VI and it just says so much from how it sounds.
Forgotten Face / A Face Unforgotten
Terra / Tina – 8
Forgotten Face / A Face Unforgotten – 11
Great battle, the Fratley theme from IX wins by a few votes. Next up, from Most Relaxing:
Roses and Wine – Final Fantasy VIII (Laguna: "Oh yeah, so I want to quit the army and become a journalist!" "So I can tell people ’bout all the things I’ve seen on my travels." Squall: (He’s already loosened up…))
vs.
Eiko’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX (Eiko: "Did I make the right decisions? … Grandpa… I don’t wanna be alone anymore. Help me do this right…")
Roses and Wine
This track set the mood perfectly when Laguna was sharing his dreams and aspirations with Julia, and it’s a wonder how Squall was able to awaken from such a relaxing tune (not really).
Thats my vote, and it’ll be the same everytime! ๐
I think I looked up roses and wine quickly last time it was up and remembered not caring for it too much.
Wow, Agent0042 you’re still doing these rumbles. You may remember me, havent visited the FFShrine forums in like a year or more. Not much has changed ๐
Thats my vote, and it’ll be the same everytime! ๐
A joke account? I suppose it would be pointless to mention that piece isn’t even of the contenders in this edition. ๐
Wow, Agent0042 you’re still doing these rumbles. You may remember me, havent visited the FFShrine forums in like a year or more. Not much has changed ๐
Yeah, sorry, I closed your FFVII Rumble due to lack of activity. Good to see you again.
Roses and Wine – 4
Eiko’s Theme – 13
Ride On – 1
Eiko’s Theme powers on to the Quarter-Finals.
All right, next up on the agenda, from Most Joyful:
Cid’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII (Cid: "Everyday, it tilts a little bit more. At this rate, I don’t know which will come first, this thing falling down or me gettin’ outta here. My last hope is to talk to the President……")
vs.
The Splendid Performance – Final Fantasy X (Datto: "You’re really leavin’, Cap’n?" Letty: "Shouldn’t you heal up first?" Wakka: "Yuna needs me with her now. I can’t be lying around in some bed." Datto: "Yeah, but…" Wakka: "Come on, look sharp! The blitz season just started! Don’t make those faces, ya? Well… See you, boys! You be good!")
The Splendid Performance wasn’t even the best blitz-related track in FFX. Blitzball Gamblers is far better.
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Cid’s Theme – 10
The Splendid Performance – 9
Something of a seesaw battle there. Ultimately, "The Splendid Performance" just couldn’t quite pull ahead. Cid’s Theme wins by just one vote and is on to the quarter-finals!
Next up:
Liberi Fatali ("I’ll be waiting…for you…so If you come here You’ll find me. I promise.")
vs.
Otherworld (Tidus: "I promise this’ll be quick! Hit me with all you got, Dad!")
I’m not too keen on the scratching-against-the-chalkboard sensation that other selection has a knack for conjuring up.
I don’t usually like opera type music or whatever but that song is great.
Otherworld – 2
A near-unanimous result. Liberi Fatali heads on to the quarter-finals. Next up, from Most Relaxing:
Love Grows (Squall: (Go to Esthar… Find Ellone… Talk to Ellone… But there’s no guarantee that everything will be resolved if I talk to Ellone. Even so, I’m… I……..sure have changed.))
vs.
Vamo ‘alla Flamenco (Blank: "We shall finish this later!" Zidane: "Come back here!")
Even though I hear it a lot at the beginning of the game during the staged fight against Blank (mostly for a completionist reason), I never grew tired of it.
Love grows is a nice piece as well, but it lacks a little something to me. Some subtleties in its composition that Vama ‘alla Flamenco just happens to have over it.
I love the remix by The Black Mages.
Love grows is a bit more soft and gentle but not the kind of music for me if I want to relax.
Vamo’ alla Flamenco is good, but hardly relaxing as such.
I’ll be waiting here… for you… so
If you come here…
You’ll find me…
I hide my face in shame. Truly.
Love Grows
Love Grows – 10
Vamo ‘alla Flamenco – 10
What a battle! Well, here we are then. At first, Vamo ‘alla Flamenco looked like the clear winner. But then a surge of late votes put Love Grows back in contention and now here we are at a tie vote! Well, when we’re in the second round, we go back to the results from the first round to determine our tiebreaker. So let’s take a look and figure this out…
Vamo ‘alla Flamenco – 9/16 – 56.25%
Love Grows – 10/19 – 52.63%
I don’t believe it! That has to be the closest tiebreaker ever. Vamo ‘alla Flamenco (which some think is an unsuitable category, but I’m not the one who made that nomination) goes on to the quarter-finals! Love Grows just misses a great comeback.
All right, here we are with the next battle:
Zidane’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "Come on, it’s not like I did it on purpose." Dagger: "Please, enough." Zidane: "There’s that royal tone in your voice again. …Are you okay, Vivi?")
vs.
We Are Thieves! – Final Fantasy IX (Steiner: "!!!? Oh, it’s only you. Why are you all gathered here? Are you scheming another abduction or something?" Blank: "Hey, watch your mouth." Cinna: "We were just discussing ways to restore this district." Zenero: "Yeah." Marcus: "Old timer, you’ve got us all wrong.")
It’s FFIX vs. FFIX this time. But which tune wins out? We’re at a holiday-time, so I realize voting might just drop off. So this may go an extra day. Tell ya’ what, if at least 12 votes are in by the normal ending time, then I go ahead with the next battle. If not, then I wait until the next evening.
Zidane’s theme is all right, but I would have preferred his theme to be You’re Not Alone.
The category is most joyful I presume?
Oh, yes, absolutely…
Zidane’s Theme – 7
We are Thieves! – 9
Another close winner, but a solid victor this time. "We are Thieves!" wins by a couple votes. And we still have a couple battles left in the second round. Here’s the first of them:
Next up, from Most Intense:
Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII (Sorceress Ultimecia: "I shall junction myself… …Unto Griever!")
vs.
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX (Dagger: "Look out! Oh, gosh! I can’t watch anymore!" Steiner: "YOU CAN’T WIN JUST BY RUNNING! A GOOD OFFENSE IS THE BEST DEFENSE! ATTACK! You can’t lose to that monkey Zidane! YES! THAT’S IT! NOW’S YOUR CHANCE! ONE MORE TIME! VIVI, BEHIND YOU! YES! GO!")
No doubt about it, Hunter’s Chance is astonishing in its own right, but as far as intensity goes, Maybe I’m a Lion clearly edges it out, in my opinion.
No doubt about it, Hunter’s Chance is astonishing in its own right, but as far as intensity goes, Maybe I’m a Lion clearly edges it out, in my opinion.
But I still like hunters chance better
I always thought that Nobuo toped his composition skills during the OST of FFVIII. FFIX, while being memorable, isn’t nearly as good as FFVIII’s OST to me. And when I listened to both of these tracks before voting, it still reminded it to me.
Maybe I’m a Lion – 9
Hunter’s Chance – 8
Another great battle! "Lion" squeaks it by just one vote. Maybe it’s me, but it seemed like people were paying more attention to the category in this battle and that might have influenced the results. Either way, Hunter’s Chance is out. And speaking of categories, we have just one battle left before we start the quarter-finals and they drop away. Our final battle from our final category is from Most Emotional. Here it is:
Loss of Me / Rose of May – Final Fantasy IX (Beatrix: "…There’s no difference between them and me. We’re all just blindly following orders. My heart and my will mean nothing… Maybe Steiner was right…")
vs.
To Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X (Tidus: "Hey! There was more, right? I mean like that time…uh… Anyone?" Yuna: "I think…" Tidus: "Yes?" Yuna: "I think that we should stop…maybe. For now. Let’s go.")
But I have to go with Loss of Me/Rose of May.
The game was depressing, and this main theme was just perfect for this mood.
While "Zanarkand" is the more popular of the two choices, "Roses of May" is the one I predict will win this entire thing, and I’m under the supposition of Beatrix’s (admittedly) awesome character being the driving force that’ll ultimately propel it to that status.
Zanarkand, consequently.
it was a hard choice, i just feel like i have to give some credit to "to zanarkand" it was also a great song
To Zanarkand was just too slow and dull for me, didn’t express enough emotion.
To Zanarkand was boring as hell.
Loss of Me / Rose of May
Loss of Me / Rose of May – 12
To Zanarkand – 7
Good support for both tunes. We have a pretty clear favorite this time, though, Loss of Me / Rose of May! It goes on to the Quarter-Finals! And here they are…
Cid’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII
Liberi Fatali – Final Fantasy VIII
Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII
We Are Thieves! – Final Fantasy IX
Eiko’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Vamo ‘alla Flamenco – Final Fantasy IX
Loss of Me / Rose of May – Final Fantasy IX
Forgotten Face / A Face Unforgotten – Final Fantasy IX
So far FFIX is dominating. Well, remember the above list is only for reference and you can find the updated results on the first post in the thread.
First battle of the Quarter-Finals!
Liberi Fatali – Final Fantasy VIII (Dr. Kadowaki: "That Seifer…Won’t listen to anyone. Why don’t you ignore him?" Squall: "I can’t just run away.")
vs.
Forgotten Face / A Face Unforgotten – Final Fantasy IX (Freya: "The sky looks ominous… Something’s about to happen. Sir Fratley, where are you…? I need you…")
Liberi Fatali – 12
Forgotten Face / A Face Unforgotten – 9
Interesting. I kinda expected Liberi Fatali to win, but it was a lot closer than I would have thought. Oh, and:
Aeris Theme
LOL at rabid FFVII fan who can’t read and has no idea what he’s posting about.
Okay! Next battle:
Cid’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII
vs.
Eiko’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
In case anyone hasn’t figured it out, FFIX is going to be in every battle this round to the glut of tunes that were voted to this round from that game. In fact, there’s gonna have to be an FFIX vs. FFIX battle at some point. So far, FFIX is one down in this round, let’s see whether or not it becomes a trend.
Anyway, cast your votes!
An excess of FFIX tracks are contending against each other so late in the competition because it’s the the most beloved Final Fantasy for the majority of FFS, from what I’ve gathered, and sad to say, I’m starting to get the impression that favoritism for the game as a whole is eclipsing judgement of the track itself on its own merit. This is not only limited to FFIX either, for certain members.
To some of you, perhaps I’m being precarious, though I’ve pored over the first General Final Fantasy Rumble thread in the Archives section months prior, and even back then, it’s the same story, with an overabundance of Final Fantasy IX-related choices reaching the quarterfinals, regardless of the pertinence of a particular rumble at the time.
It’s not a complaint, as it’s merely observance of the inclination I’m addressing.
I’d also like to add that I’m still confounded over the fact that Unforgettable Silhouette defeated Terra’s Theme, and was surprised it came as close as it did when vying against Liberi Fatali.
Predictability came into play, once again, with the overwhelming FFIX support, yet, concerning a number of outcomes, it’s been one of the more "whoa-inducing" rumbles I’ve taken part in.
EDIT: I’m well aware, Hynad. Too aware.
Haha.
Splintered, quit complaining about the obvious. ๐
Nah. I actually agree with this post of yours. But, I don’t really care.
Some people have no knowledge and will ony vote for the game they enjoyed the most. That’s plain lame, but at the same time, there’s not really anything to gain from these rumbles. ๐
Cid’s Theme – 9
Eiko’s Theme – 8
Well, that last vote seals it conclusively. After FFIX did so well last round, another FFIX tune goes down. Cid’s Theme is on to the semi-finals.
All right, next up… another FFIX tune goes down, but one goes through. Because it’s time for this round’s FFIX vs. FFIX tune battle. And here it is…
We Are Thieves! – Final Fantasy IX (Baku: "…… Hey, Cinna… What are you doing over there?" Cinna: "This springwater might make some good coffee! I’ll get the fixin’s!" Baku: "Do I gotta remind you what happens to members who don’t listen to their boss?" Cinna: "N-NO! Please, not that! I’ll bring everyone over right now!")
vs.
Vamo ‘alla Flamenco – Final Fantasy IX (Mene: "Wow, that’s amazing that you found so many, kupo! But you need to stop! I’ll go out of business if you keep going, kupo! I’ll give you a special bonus if you just quit now!")
Cast your votes!
We Are Thieves! is a consistent track, all the same, for I constantly skip over it on my iPod.
I was kinda hoping Eiko’s theme would win the last battle, I don’t care much for final Fantasy VII music.
We Are Thieves! – 2
Vamo ‘alla Flamenco – 17
And now, the final battle of the Quarter-Finals:
Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII (Squall: "It’s not a monster. It’s a lion. Lions are known for their great strength and pride." Rinoa: "Hmm…great strength…pride……Kinda like you, Squall." Squall: "I wish…" Rinoa: "Hmm…so this L I O N of yours. Does it have a name?" Squall: "Of course." Rinoa: "So that’s what you call it. You know Zell said he’ll make me one exactly like it. Who knows, maybe I can become like a lion, too. That’d be crazy, huh!? I mean, everyone might, y’know, get the wrong idea about us." Squall: (If it’s so crazy, why do you sound so delighted? Everyone is trying to get us together. It’s so obvious even I can tell.) "You sound like you want everyone to get the wrong idea.")
vs.
Loss of Me / Rose of May – Final Fantasy IX (Beatrix: "I won’t allow that." Brahne: "Oh? Are you defying me as well?" Beatrix: "Your Majesty, it is my duty to protect the princess. I beg you, reconsider. Please do not harm the princess anymore. All of you, leave here at once!")
Maybe I’m a Lion – 4
Loss of Me / Rose of May – 14
"Maybe I’m a Lion" only manages to scrape up four votes to salvage FFIX’s hopes going into the semi-finals with Loss of Me / Rose of May.
So here’s what’s left then:
Cid’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII
Liberi Fatali – Final Fantasy VIII
Vamo ‘alla Flamenco – Final Fantasy IX
Loss of Me / Rose of May – Final Fantasy IX
First up:
Cid’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII (Reeve: "Cloud, everybody! Sorry…… But!!" Cait Sith: "But! But you’ll come, won’t you!?" Cloud: "I know!" Cid: "Hey! I’m leaving the ship in your hands!" Learner Pilot: "I’m heading for Midgar!")
vs.
Vamo ‘alla Flamenco – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "Out of the way, Blank!" Blank: "Consider this, Zidane! If Prince Schnieder were to marry Princess Cornelia, peace would reign over both their kingdoms!" Zidane: "’Tis foolishness! If all were so easy, why, none would suffer in this world! Aha!" Blank: "Mph!" Zidane: "Aha! Aha!")
I really like Vamo ‘alla Flamenco, but I kind of think it’s repetitive, and it loses its luster after a while, whereas that’s hardly the case for Cid’s Theme.
Anywho.
Cid’s Theme. I’m actually all for what Splintered just said.
Sorry, but it’s way better than Vamo ‘alla Flamenco.
I really like Vamo ‘alla Flamenco, but I kind of think it’s repetitive, and it loses its luster after a while, whereas that’s hardly the case for Cid’s Theme.
Exactly
I really like Vamo ‘alla Flamenco, but I kind of think it’s repetitive, and it loses its luster after a while, whereas that’s hardly the case for Cid’s Theme.
sorry but I love the playful fun tune
I know it’s behind but I don’t think cids theme should win. Just doesn’t sound as good of a song to me.
I really like Vamo ‘alla Flamenco, but I kind of think it’s repetitive, and it loses its luster after a while, whereas that’s hardly the case for Cid’s Theme.
If you listen to both repetetively Vamo ‘alla Flamenco still sounds better imo.
Vamo ‘alla Flamenco – 8
Yep, it was close all right! Cid’s Theme takes it by just one vote, that last vote there wasn’t enough to tip the scales.
And now, the second semi-final battle:
Liberi Fatali – Final Fantasy VIII (Quistis: "I knew it’d be either you or Seifer! Come on, let’s go. Today’s the field exam.")
vs.
Loss of Me / Rose of May – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "Boss! Have you found Dagger?" Baku: "Nah… Can’t find her anywhere! I didn’t find Dagger, but… I think I saw that chick…" Zidane: "That chick?" Baku: "Yeah, you know, that chick! I’m gonna check again." Zidane: "Hey, wait! Who is she? What are you talking about!?")
This exhilarating piece is really far more worthy and deserving of competing in the finals against Cid’s Theme than Roses of May, in my honest opinion.
—
These decisions sure are getting harder.
Everyone must be associating the song with the hype over how awesome the graphics in FFVIII were when it first came out. FAIL.
What nutcases. I feel like that game editor who was described as loathing final fantasy VIII, to the point of unemployment and complaining about it with druggies and prostitutes on the street until being rehired for critique knowledge, in a recent issue of some gaming magazine…it’s front cover was all about some cave-babe beast-riding game.
Toughest of the tough choices, but one eyed lady’s theme is what I hum in the shower
Liberi Fatali – 11
Loss of Me / Rose of May – 7
Well, not as close as I might have expected. Liberi Fatali makes the final.
Everyone must be associating the song with the hype over how awesome the graphics in FFVIII were when it first came out. FAIL.
Maybe, but I think you’d be in for a time arguing that point with Splintered.
The final!
Cid’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII (Cid: "Look at this rusted Rocket. I was supposed to be the first man in space with this. Everyday, it tilts a little bit more. At this rate, I don’t know which will come first, this thing falling down or me gettin’ outta here. My last hope is to talk to the President…")
vs.
Liberi Fatali – Final Fantasy VIII (Squall: "What’s so funny?" Quistis: "Funny? No, no, it’s not that! I’m just happy. I feel like I’m finally beginning to understand my student a little. That’s all." Squall: "I’m more complex than you think." Quistis: "Then tell me. Tell me more about yourself." Squall: "It’s none of your…" Quistis: "…Business!")
Interesting how in a rumble that FFIX tunes dominated so much, FFIX is nowhere to be seen in this final. Well, here we are then. I’ll edit in the quotes a bit later, in a few hours or so. I don’t have time right now. Cast your votes!
Everyone must be associating the song with the hype over how awesome the graphics in FFVIII were when it first came out. FAIL.
The hype about the graphics have nothing to do with the superiority of Liberi Fatali’s composition. Seriously, complaining about a theme that is beating your choice is childish.
Now as far as the finale goes… Damn, that’s a tough one.
2 Epic themes of almost equal quality to me in term of composition.
I’ll go with Liberi Fatali for this one. As it’s a more complete theme when it comes to arrangements and it completely overwhelms my ears when I listen to it.
As for Cid’s Theme, you guys should try to get the Tokyo Philarmonic Version of it. A bit slower than the original, but with a lot more emotions.
..Tokyo Philarmonic Version of it
Seriously, complaining about a theme that is beating your choice is childish.
Thank you.
Maybe, but I think you’d be in for a time arguing that point with Splintered.
I need a good verbal spanking.
Did anyone find out who Member 2282 "witwicky" was/is?
Finally it has come down to the finals. Liberi Fatali all the way for this one.
I thought the graphics were rather ugly when I played it when it first came out. ๐
Cid’s Theme~
i’m gonna have to go with Cid’s Theme though. had more of an impact on me.
Liberi Fatali
Everyone must be associating the song with the hype over how awesome the graphics in FFVIII were when it first came out. FAIL.
If that were the case, there would’ve been a greater quantity of FFVII tracks ascending to the later rounds. Quite frankly, the graphical leap wasn’t all that huge in the least. Stylistically speaking, they’re drastically different from each other, with FFVII having an anime aesthetic to it, and FFVIII possessing a more realistic and polished tone; thus, FFVIII giving off the impression its graphics surpasses those of FFVII.
I kid you not when I say there was more hype over the graphics of: FFVII, FFX, and FFXII respectively. The acclaim FFVIII may’ve received for that particular aspect of the game doesn’t even compare.
By your logic, Final Fantasy XII Original Soundtrack must have a pretty sizable fanbase here:
"Lol. I’m a fan of Nobuo’s stuff, but nuh-uh! Final Fantasy XII has the best music because the graphics sure are purdy.
Go, title-of-track-I-can’t-even-remember!"
…
Additionally, if memory serves, you can’t perceive the magnitude of a video game’s graphics by ear. However, you evidently can, so I’m rather envious of your gift.
I’m not even going to touch upon this quote:
better than corny Cid’s Theme of *oh my god we’re taking off for the moon, my biggest dream in the world!*
Because isn’t Cid’s Theme the same as the field music when flying the highwind?
Not whatsoever, actually.
The track you may’ve been referring to is Steal the Tiny Bronco!, which is also associated with Cid.
If not they both still suck imo.
You obviously have little to no recollection of what The Highwind Takes to the Skies sounds like, yet you’re of the opinion that it sucks.
Good job on that.
Because isn’t Cid’s Theme the same as the field music when flying the highwind?
Not whatsoever, actually.
Or maybe he’s thinking of the small part of the game towards the end of Disc 2 when "Cid’s Theme" takes over as both the general World Map theme and the music that plays while flying the Highwind.
Sorry, carry on.
That’s a possibility, though when someone questions about the occurrence of a track during the game, the proper theme will normally come to mind first.
It’s been, at least, over five years since I’ve last played FFVII; I don’t recall Cid’s Theme being cued during those times at all, but I’ll take your word for it, of course!
ya, it’s right after you visit outside the crater when the sister ray destroys the barrier. you’re supposed to head back to Midgar at that point also.
Anyways, the excitement, the passion! And now, time for some results!
Cid’s Theme – 10
Liberi Fatali – 9
Ah, the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat. Our big winner:
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Did anyone find out who Member 2282 "witwicky" was/is?
Huh!?
As for Cid’s Theme, you guys should try to get the Tokyo Philarmonic Version of it. A bit slower than the original, but with a lot more emotions.
Never heard it. From your description though, sounds like it might be kinda like "Shera’s Theme," Sending a Dream Across the Universe.
Well, that’s all for this edition! Stay tuned for the next one soon…
haha. same. always wanted to get the ultimate weapon before the third disc.
wow close one. nice that Cid’s Theme won. looking forward to future Rumbles.
When it came down to those two tunes competing in the finals, I didn’t care about which one would’ve come out on top – as I adore them both, and they’re each more than meritorious.
FF music rumbles are easily my favorite (shame I missed the chance to nominate some choice tracks), and I’m highly anticipating the next rumble ahead.
ya, it’s right after you visit outside the crater when the sister ray destroys the barrier. you’re supposed to head back to Midgar at that point also.
That still doesn’t ring a bell; another playthrough is in order, I think.
Appreciate the reminder.
"Who is the hottest Final Fantasy character?"
I’ll fourth that
Cid’s Theme owned your bitch asses. Totally. Completely too.
Abilities like Mime, W-Commands, Sword tech, Blitz, Jump, White Magic,etc… (Mostly what you could called battle abilities.)
No Limit Breaks,Trances, Quickenings or whatever Desperate Moves.
Mime
W-Commands
Sword tech
Blitz
Jump
White Magic
Black Magic
Blue Magic
Summoning
Tools
Throw
Rage
Slot
Runic
Steal
Morph
I know, too much of FF VI.
Draw
GF
Summon in general
Magic in general
Throw
Flair
etc etc
Delay Buster
Eat
Devour
Dark Side
Shock
Climhazzard
Item
Lancet
Use
Steal (or Mug in certain cases)
Zombie Attack
Armor/Power/Mental/Magic Breaks
Dragon Breath
I’ll think of more
No Mercy
Revive
Aura
Reis’ Wind
White Draw
Focus
I added more
Parry/Defend
Change/Switch
can this include the abilites from IX that you equip wih the stones???
These should be in the rumble too.
Excellent. I’ll be nominating abilities exclusively from FFX-2, since I absolutely love the game, and as of now, many gems from it are being inexcusably neglected (!):
* Trigger Happy (Levels 1-3)
Sticky Fingers
Master Thief
Assault
Mix
Spare Change
Fireworks
Blue Bullet
– Cry in the Night
– Drill Shot
– Mortar
MP Mambo
Dirty Dancing
Black Sky
Charon
Cripple
Evade & Counter
* Reels (Attack, Magic, Item, Random)
* Dice (Two & Four)
Swarm, Swarm!
Moogle Beam
* Counts as a single ability.
I’ll go along with anything as long as it isn’t something like:
"Who is the hottest Final Fantasy character?"
I’m wondering whether or not a particular rumble as such has ever been done before.
Call me crazy, but an unbridledly superficial rumble like that would be pretty entertaining, I believe. Depending upon who receives the nod as an entrant, the responses have potential to be really funny, and the fact that, in a sense, it’s unconventional is a big plus.
In the near future, maybe that’ll come into fruition when the majority of you people decide to be "zany" as well!
Call me crazy, but an unbridledly superficial rumble like that would be pretty entertaining, I believe. Depending upon who receives the nod as an entrant, the responses have potential to be really funny, and the fact that, in a sense, it’s unconventional is a big plus.
In the near future, maybe that’ll come into fruition when the majority of you people decide to be "zany" as well!
We tried to get a general video game character rumble based on "hotness" going once. It never got off the ground. You know who I nominated.
Action Abilities
Parry/Defend – Most FFs
Mug/Steal – Most FFs
Jump – Many FFs
GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change – Many FFs
Revive – Many FFs
Mime – Several FFs
Focus – Several FFs
Manipulate/Control – Final Fantasy V and VII
Boost – Final Fantasy VIII and IX
Sketch – Final Fantasy VI
Runic – Final Fantasy VI
Deathblow – Final Fantasy VII
Draw – Final Fantasy VIII
Item – Final Fantasy VIII
Morph – Final Fantasy VII
Card – Final Fantasy VIII
Devour – Final Fantasy VIII
Shock – Final Fantasy IX
Climhazzard – Final Fantasy IX
Lancet – Final Fantasy X
Use – Final Fantasy X
Pray – Final Fantasy X
Triple Foul – Final Fantasy X
Quick Hit – Final Fantasy X
Zombie Attack – Final Fantasy X
Mix – Final Fantasy X-2
Dirty Dancing – Final Fantasy X-2
Fireworks – Final Fantasy X-2
Black Sky – Final Fantasy X-2
Moogle Beam – Final Fantasy X-2
Random Reels – Final Fantasy X-2
Blue Bullet – Cry in the Night – Final Fantasy X-2
Support Abilities
Auto-Life / Reraise – Several FFs
No Encounters – Several FFs
HP Bonuses – Several FFs
Initiative – Final Fantasy VIII and IX (Freya only)
Final Attack – Final Fantasy VII
Sneak Attack – Final Fantasy VII
Call Shop – Final Fantasy VIII
Haggle – Final Fantasy VIII
Alert – Final Fantasy VIII
Lv Down/Up – Final Fantasy VIII
Return Magic – Final Fantasy IX
Auto-Haste – Final Fantasy IX, X and X-2
Auto-Reflect – Final Fantasy IX, X and X-2
Gillionaire- Final Fantasy X
Evade and Counter – Final Fantasy X-2
Master Thief – Final Fantasy X-2
First up:
Mime – Several FFs (Ah, the useful ability of mimicry. This allows you to copy a previous characters’ action without using up valuable MP. It generally works on anything except limit-type maneuvers.)
vs.
Card – Final Fantasy VIII (This little ability in FFVIII allowed you to made a card out of a weakened enemy, adding to your Triple Triad collection. Occasionally, you could even get rare cards.)
and:
Sneak Attack – Final Fantasy VII (Gained through support Materia. When attached to another Materia, you could sometimes get an opening attack before the enemy could even act. Increasing the support Sneak Attack Materia’s level increased the odds of you getting in first. One highly useful combination is Sneak Attack <-> Morph.)
vs.
Lv Down/Up – Final Fantasy VIII (This useful pairing of abilities allows you to alter the level of the monster you’re facing. Very useful if you need to get a particular item and the monster isn’t at the proper level for you to drop/steal it.)
Make sure to cast one vote from each battle and bold each!
And Penelo :smrt:
Mime
Sneak Attack
Ah, the good ol’ Card ability was at the core of my attainment of each and every Triple Triad card in FFVIII, and without it, that arduous yet entertaining task wouldn’t have gone as briskly, I feel.
What’s there not to like about it? The skill to fatten your collection and gain fairly strong cards relatively quick is pure win! Also, rather than slay many of the fiends, you could transform them into a quaint playing card, and that’ll be sure to get those pesky proponents for PETA off your back, so to speak.
As for Lv. Down/Up, they were godsends for when I had needed certain rare items for remodeling my players’ weapons.
K-neg: Personally, Penelo’s not my cup of tea (as far as looks are concerned), but gotcha.
and
Lv Down/Up
Sneak Attack
Sneak Attack
Sneak Attack
Card’s useful when you start Triple Triad, but i’d rather not waste EXP for in most cases a card I already have. Then again I spent a lot of time winning my cards from playing Triple Triad.
Level Down/Up is meh to me. Never did much for me.
Card was a pretty good idea, just not as good as Mime, but Lv. Down/Up just emphasises how ridiculously broken FFVIII’s battle system was.
Card was a pretty good idea, just not as good as Mime, but Lv. Down/Up just emphasises how ridiculously broken FFVIII’s battle system was.
Sneak Attack
Mime – 11
Card – 3
and
Sneak Attack – 9
Lv Down/Up – 6
Lot closer on that second battle. But it’s Mime and Sneak Attack on to the second round. Next up:
Sketch – Final Fantasy VI (Relm only. She uses her paintbrush to sketch a copy of the enemy, possibly turning their own attack back on them. Needed against Ultros. Using this move against some enemies in early versions could cause a glitch.)
vs.
Black Sky – Final Fantasy X-2 – Dark Knight – Arcana (Special attack that caused dark meteors to rain down on the enemies. Could be very powerful.)
and
No Encounters – Several FFs (Completely eliminates random encounters. Useful if you just want to explore / go about your business.)
vs.
Evade and Counter – Final Fantasy X-2 – Berserker (Support ability that allowed you to evade a monster’s attack and then counter it. Particularly useful against the Elder Drakes.)
evade and counter
No Encounters
Sometimes, we get along just fine. ^_-
+
No Encounters (loved this ability)
Edit: WTF, the forum is acting strange again…
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No Encounters – loved it in FFVIII
Sketch – 6
Black Sky – 10
and
No Encounters – 11
Evade and Counter – 6
Some reasonably close battles. Black Sky and No Encounters are the winners. And next we have:
Jump – Many FFs (Allows the character to leap off-screen, avoiding enemy attacks. They then dive down for a powerful attack.)
vs.
Shock – Final Fantasy IX (A powerful non-elemental attack used by Beatrix and Steiner. Generally kills when Beatrix uses on your characters, generally 9999 by the time you can use it with Steiner.)
and
Haggle – Final Fantasy VIII (Ability that lowers the prices of items in shops. Can be used to cheat the game by and make unlimited gil.)
vs.
Auto-Haste – Final Fantasy IX, X and X-2 (Automatically adds haste status to your character or characters without having to cast the spell. Greatly speeds up time between turns, allowing for a flurry of actions.)
Jump is a pragmatist’s best friend, and that’s sincerely the best way I could describe it.
Invulnerability + Surprise Attack = Win.
No, it may not be as flashy or powerful as Shock, though it’s more handy; thus, I find it to be superior in the long run.
Voting for Auto-Haste is a no-brainer, for I am a person who detests drawn-out battles (exceptions to the rule would be a theme I’m head over heels for and "epic" scenery). Another thing that gives Auto-Haste its flair, from my perspective, is the pleasure of viewing seemingly stimulant-affected characters kicking ass, which is rather appealing – especially in FFX-2; add to the fact it’s perpetual, and you have a winner!
Only a miser would vote for Haggle. http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3817/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
I’d say I couldn’t pass up Jump and Auto-Haste.
I’d say I couldn’t pass up Jump and Auto-Haste.
Shock, because 1-hit KO (which Shock basically is in Beatrix’s hands) rules.
Auto-Haste, because it was useful, but more importantly, because it’s up against another of the broken abilities from FFVIII.
No contest between Haggle and Auto-Haste, though.
Auto-Haste – 12
Support abilities battle has been ended by blowout. Keep those votes coming on the other battle!
I find it amazing how they can jump off the screen and most times land from behind the opponent. Do they make a circle in the air or something? It’s just awesome!
Jump – 11
Shock – 7
Jump wins by a few votes. All right, next battles up:
Morph – Final Fantasy VII (A low-powered attack that if dealt as the killing blow, morphs the enemy into an item. All of the Source stat-boosting abilities could be morphed using this. Additionally, it was possible to get Ribbons, Elixirs/Megalixirs and other useful items from this. It was also required for the Guidebook item, which could be exchanged for the Underwater Materia. This attack could be powered up by using Yuffie’s Ultimate Weapon, Conformer, which tended to do powerful damage when using Morph, making the process a lot easier.)
vs.
Zombie Attack – Final Fantasy X (An attack that could place monsters in Zombie status. They would then be vulnerable to healing items. This was useful against Yu Yevon, some may have found other uses for it as well.)
and
Initiative – Final Fantasy VIII and IX (Freya only) (Allowed characters to act before the enemy got a turn. Useful particularly against Malboros in FFVIII, and generally a nice ability to have.)
vs.
Alert – Final Fantasy VIII (Prevented annoying Back Attacks during Random Encounters.)
Initiative
SPAM ALERT!
Take your commercials for merchandise and shove them up your ass. This isn’t an advertisement thread.
Zombie attack sounds cool but I have not played X so I’m going with morph.
Initiative was also present in FFX, just for the record, not that that’s really important.
Alert – 0
Initiative – 10
Initiative passes on to the second round easily! Continue your votes on the action ability battle, though so far, it’s hardly a better battle, but it’s not actually a blowout.
but Morph it is.
Morph – 13
Zombie Attack – 5
A slight late rally couldn’t save Zombie Attack. Morph goes on to the second round, and we finally move on to the next battle…
Revive – Many FFs (Allows you instantly revive a KOed character, generally to full health, without having to cast magic.)
vs.
Draw – Final Fantasy VIII (Generally a necessary spell for obtaining magic, though magic could also be refined.)
and
Return Magic – Final Fantasy IX (A support ability used to return enemy spells.)
vs.
Gillionaire – Final Fantasy X (Increased the amount of gil won in a battle.)
Gillionaire
Revive – 12
Draw – 1
and
Return Magic – 3
Gillionaire – 10
No surprises here, really. Both Revive and Gillionaire pass on to the second round by considerable margins, though no blowouts this time.
Next up…
Deathblow – Final Fantasy VII (Attempts to force an attack that deals critical damage. Can be useful, but can often missed. Picked up from Command materia found in Gongaga.)
vs.
Triple Foul – Final Fantasy X (Action ability that attacks and inflicts up to three negative status — Darkness, Silence and Sleep for three turns. Appears in Wakka’s area of the Sphere Grid, though can be learned by any in your party, like an FFX ability.)
and
HP Bonuses – Several FFs (Support abilities that boost your characters’ max HP. These bonuses generally range from around a 10% Boost, to as high as 80% in Final Fantasy VIII.)
vs.
Master Thief – Final Fantasy X-2 (Support ability that allows a character using "Steal" to steal rare items instead of items of the more common variety. However, can make stealing more difficult.)
Deathblow
HP Bonuses
but I did like the Master Thief from FFIX
HP Bonuses – 10
Master Thief – 0
Keep voting on the action abilities battle!
Anyway, Deathblow for the other battle, because Triple Foul was essentially Sleep Attack, Silence Attack and Dark Attack, instead of the superior Buster abilities which seemed to be the only status skills that worked later on in the game.
Triple Foul – 5
Somewhat closer on that one. Deathblow rallies to win the battle by several votes.
Next up:
Mug/Steal (Most FFs) (Allows you take an item from the enemy. In FFIX, enemies often had multiple items to steal, but in most FFs, they only had one. The Mug extension allowed you to attack at the same time as stealing, but could be risky if you killed the enemy before you could steal.)
vs.
Moogle Beam – Final Fantasy X-2 (A powerful attack available only to Yuna on the Mascot dressphere. Could break the damage limit, hitting generally for damage around 20-30,000.)
and
Call Shop – Final Fantasy VIII (Support ability gained from GF Tonberry. Allowed you call a previously visited shop at anytime and purchase items. Particularly useful in Disc 4.)
vs.
Auto-Reflect – Final Fantasy IX, X and X-2 (Automatically placed your characters in Reflect status, bouncing magic spells, and allowing you penetrate an enemies’ Reflect by casting magic on your own characters.)
Disc 4 shopping, ftw. Call Shop.
and let’s see tough choice….
Auto-Reflect because it has saved me life on multiple occasions
Auto-reflect. Tricky and annoying when it happens, when you need to heal somebody and either don’t have Reflect-Null support ability equipped or those who can learn the ability are KO’d/not in party. But more useful with ReflectX2.
Hated the fact that you couldn’t go to all areas in FFVIII after Disc 3 or Lunatic Pandora event, even if Callshop eliminated the hassle of travel when you don’t want to fly all over the place just for Hipotions/G-Returners/Junkshop.
I never tried out moogle beam so I woulnd’t know how much I like it.
Call Shop
Auto Reflect made healing magic worthless unless the opponent too had reflect on. And even then you might not know who gets healed.
Erm, I should point out, in case anyone else is confused, that I am referring to Mug/Steal in all FF games that have it, not just IX.
Mug/Steal – 11
Moogle Beam – 1
Well, maybe not so good on that first one. Let’s see the results of the other…
Call Shop – 6
Auto-Reflect – 6
Oh my. Much better. In fact, looks like we have a tie on that one. Well, when we tie in the first round in this rumble, we go to a coin toss. Heads for Call Shop, tails for Auto-Reflect. And it’s… tails, so it looks like it’s Auto-Reflect heading to the second round. Next battle…
Runic – Final Fantasy VI (Celes uses her Runic blade to absorb a magical attack, causing it to do no damage. Available only if Celes has certain types of swords equipped.)
vs.
Lancet – Final Fantasy X (Absorbs a small amount of HP and MP from the enemy. When used on certain enemies by Kimahri only, he can learn special Blue Magic skills to use with his Overdrive.)
and
Auto-Life / Reraise – Several FFs (When cast, character will automatically be returned to life [oftentimes full-life] when KOed. Also known as Life3.)
vs.
Final Attack – Final Fantasy VII (Support materia that can be attached to either Magic, Command, or Summon materia. When equipped, character has a chance of using a final attack when KOed. Chance increases as level of Final Attack materia increases. A popular combination is Final Attack / Phoenix, which is similar to the above ability, except it revives all KOed characters, and can also sometimes damage the enemy.)
This is the final battle in the Support Abilities section for the first round.
Call Shop
hmm..
Lancet
Final Attack
Life 3
It was difficult to choose here because the abilities are fairly similar in their main benefits. For example, Runic and Lancet are both useful for their abilty to restore MP, while Final Attack and Auto-Life are also generally used for the same thing. However, Runic allowed you to avoid taking HP damage, while the Final Attack-Phoenix combo allowed you to deal damage as well as simply reviving.
Auto-Life/Reraise
For this round, Lancet receives my support, because I, too, revel in learning enemies’ skills. The "hunt" is always more fulfilling than the acquisition, personally speaking.
And what’s that? I can absorb HP and MP, albeit a relatively measly amount, from my opponents during the process?
Fantastic.
I’ll be in control of a semi-shaved Wookiee-like creature to accomplish this at first?
Well, gee. The default Blue Mages just become uglier and uglier with time, now don’t they?
For its reliability, which is the key reason as to why I’m siding with it, Auto-Life gains the nod from me, and regardless of how cool a concept, or how useful I may find Final Attack to be, the factor of probability simply doesn’t edge out the assurance of having your character(s) in tiptop shape after the depletion of their HP, especially when your party is in dire straits.
And Withope, if you’re reading, it appears you’re one battle behind. You still have time to edit your post before this battle closes.
Lancet was totally worthless after the fight with the Ronso cos you could get all the abilities from them – the HP/MP stealing was pointless as well, since you couldn’t steal decent values.
Lancet – 13
A few supporters for Runic, which personally I would have voted for. But Lancet wins by a large margin.
Auto-Life / Reraise – 13
Final Attack – 5
Looks like the exact same sentiments here. There are those who like Final Attack, but Auto-Life overall is far more popular.
That’s the end for the first round of the support abilities battles. There are eight of them left, whereas they’ll be sixteen left for the action ones once its first round is over. So the support abilities battles won’t be starting up again until the quarter-finals. So for now, it’s just one battle at a time. And the next one is:
Manipulate/Control – Final Fantasy V and VII (Allows you to take control of the enemy and select from a menu of some of their abilities. This was a useful skill in both games for gaining blue magic type abilities. It could also change the flow of the battle by allowing you to render a powerful enemy [such as the Dragons on Mt. Nibel] helpless and then peck away at them with magic, or steal something from them.)
vs.
Blue Bullet – Cry in the Night – Final Fantasy X-2 (A "blue bullet" [blue magic] skill learned from the Mega Tonberry enemy in the Via Infinito dungeon, but only if the Mega Tonberry is in Oversoul status. Graphically pleasing attack that hit for powerful damage.)
It was really hard to get Cry In The Night, because you had to use Gun Mages, the Mega Tonberry had to be in Oversoul, and you could only get it in the last chapter – at which point there isn’t much left in the game.
Blue Bullet – Cry in the Night – 3
Well, that was easy enough. Manipulate/Control by far the more popular choice. It goes on to the second round. We still have a little ways to go before that starts, though. So let’s get on with the next battle:
Next battle is:
Item – Final Fantasy VIII (Items were useful to have in all FF games, but FFVIII was unique in that having the Item command in your battle menu was optional. You had to equip it specifically, or you didn’t have access to items. Generally, it was a good idea to have at least one character that could use items, though you were perfectly free to equip other commands you preferred instead. Having Item equipped gave you access to the usual important FF items such as Phoenix Downs and Elixirs, as well as various other items unique to this game, such as Holy War.)
vs.
Use – Final Fantasy X (A special Item-type command usable at first only by Rikku. It was on the Sphere Grid, of course, so any character could gain access to it. This command allowed you to use Grenades and other special attack items, as well as healing Al Bhed Potions.)
Use, seeing as it allowed you access to special items, not just items in general.
don’t really use attacking items much.
Use – 4
Funny, I expected Use to win. Not a huge turnout on this one, but Item goes through to the second round. Next one:
GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change – Many FFs (Allows you to throw your money at the enemies to cause damage. Can be useful if you’re carrying around a lot of excess gil and need something when all else fails.)
vs.
Mix – Final Fantasy X-2 (in FFX, Mix was an overdrive command only Rikku could use. In X-2, all three of your characters can gain access to Mix via the alchemist dressphere. You could "mix" elemental gems to whip up powerful storms, and even make your characters invincible. There were a large number of useful mixes.)
Erm, if by "her" you mean Rikku, just to be clear again, this battle refers to specifically to X-2’s version of the Mix command.
Coin Toss, cause I haven’t played X-2.
I thought this was most helpful in V. especially at the beginning because it does so much damage and helped me get through some annoying boss fights. I think they called it Zeninage.
For some reason, everytime I used Mix I got a pretty crap item that wasn’t really worth the extra charge time.
GP Toss was a power to be reckoned with in FFV
GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change – 10
Mix – 7
Better battle than I thought, but the coin toss ability types were the top favorites here. On to the second round with them.
Next up:
Boost – Final Fantasy VIII and IX (An ability that allows you to up the strength of your summons. In VIII, you tapped to boost the strength, but you had to be careful not to tap too quickly. In IX, it was just an equippable ability, but didn’t require any special controlling.)
vs.
Quick Hit – Final Fantasy X (Kinda like Haste, allowed for faster attacking. Available on Tidus’s portion of the Sphere Grid.)
Quick Hit. Nemesis you can’t touch me, nany nany boo boo *raspberry noise*
both powers suck!
I hardly ever use summons
Boost – 9
Quick Hit – 6
Pretty good battle. Boost takes it by a few votes. And next…
Devour – Final Fantasy VIII (Devours an enemy. Affect can be anything from harming your characters to gaining a stat-boosting item. Must weaken the enemy to Devour. Screen displayed while using reads "Censored… please stand by…)
vs.
Random Reels – Final Fantasy X-2 (Function of the Lady Luck dressphere, learnable ability. Determines a random attack based on how the slots line up. Can be anything from a weak attack or something that might even harm your characters, to powerful maneuvers such as Cry in the Night, or CONGRATS! This ability is manipulable with Pause/X, lining up three reels for CONGRATS! [possible to master with a bit of practice] bribes the enemy to go away and gives you bonus gil.)
BTW, this thread recently passed 4000 posts! ๐
Devour – 4
Random Reels – 8
A few votes for Devour, favorite was Random Reels. And next up…
Parry/Defend – Most FFs (Allows you to defend a physical attack, generally halving damage.)
vs.
Climhazzard – Final Fantasy IX (Powerful attack ability available to Beatrix and later Steiner.)
Climhazzard – 9
Easy win for Climhazzard. And next…
Pray – Final Fantasy X (Allows restoration of HP to all characters without expending MP.)
vs.
Fireworks – Final Fantasy X-2 (Powerful non-elemental Samurai Dressphere ability that damages all enemies.)
Never used Fireworks
Fireworks – 5
So Fireworks wins by just one vote. Kinda surprising, I didn’t expect that close a result. Next up:
Focus – Several FFs (Ability for magic-users that boosts the power of the magic. Generally, used several times, it can greatly increase the damage.)
vs.
Dirty Dancing – Final Fantasy X-2 (Songstress Dressphere dancing ability. The party inflicts critical hits while you dance.)
This is the final battle of the first round.
Focus
I never used the Songstress Dresssphere
can’t say I really ever needed it to win but it can be helpful.
Focus – 8
Dirty Dancing – 0
Kinda surprising, Dirty Dancing was a nomination. I wonder if the person who nominated it voted for it?
Next round starts sometime later today, whenever it strikes my fancy. In the meantime, this battle is closed. Feel free to chat on the results of this edition so far if you’re so interested.
But if nobody voted for it I guess it probably isn’t worth watching.
Mug/Steal – Most FFs
Jump – Many FFs
GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change – Many FFs
Revive – Many FFs
Mime – Several FFs
Focus – Several FFs
Manipulate/Control – Final Fantasy V and VII
Boost – Final Fantasy VIII and IX
Deathblow – Final Fantasy VII
Morph – Final Fantasy VII
Item – Final Fantasy VIII
Shock – Final Fantasy IX
Climhazzard – Final Fantasy IX
Fireworks – Final Fantasy X-2
Black Sky – Final Fantasy X-2
Random Reels – Final Fantasy X-2
First up in second round:
Mug/Steal – Most FFs (Old Man: "Took you long enough! How goes the robbing and plundering trade?" Locke: "I prefer the term treasure hunter!" Old Man:"Ha! Semantic nonsense!" Locke: "There’s a HUGE difference.")
vs.
Mime – Several FFs ("My name is Gogo! The famous mimic. The trick to mimicking is to imitate. So I’ll watch you and do what you do. If you fight, I fight. If you use magic, so will I! If you do what I do, you’ll surely win!")
summon bahamut, mime, mime, mime, mime, mime. Boss is dead.
I’ve missed some good rumbles in the past 5 days haven’t I?
Mime – 2
Easy win for Mug/Steal. Next…
Morph – Final Fantasy VII
vs.
Climhazzard – Final Fantasy IX
Morph was a good ability in its effect. It’s just too bad it was such a pain to use.
Climhazzard – 9
And the next battle starts tomorrow morning.
GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change – Many FFs
vs.
Black Sky – Final Fantasy X-2
Seriously, what does Kuja say to St.Peter
‘O shit, i got killed by someone hurling money at me’.
GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change – 7
Black Sky – 3
Some that didn’t like the GP Toss, but overall, it was the fave, and goes on.
Next…
Manipulate/Control – Final Fantasy V and VII
vs.
Item – Final Fantasy VIII
never really cared to use my enemies to kill my enemies. Just liked to straight out kill whoever was in my path.
Why waste time controlling your enemies when you can just kill them?
Agent Pm me if you get chance please Buddy
I prefer to mess with my foes’ heads before killing them.
Item – 4
Something of a split vote, but Manipulate/Control carries this one. Next up…
Next battle is…
Deathblow – Final Fantasy VII
vs.
Shock – Final Fantasy IX
Beatrix and Steiner. Love Love.
Death Blow materia+Barret+Boxing Glove= Awesome
max damage is fun
Shock – 11
What a battle. It was almost ended by blowout, but Deathblow tried to make a comeback. Valiant effort, but no-go. Thanks to all that voted!
Next is…
Revive – Many FFs
vs.
Fireworks – Final Fantasy X-2
The rest is Life, Or Phoenix downs isn’t it?
(Not trying to undermine you by the way just wondered)
I also never really used Amarant so I wouldn know. It appears I stand corrected. Sorry ๐
:-*
Revive even though i have save data for VIII played all way through w/o leviathan summon and even passed Griever! :smrt: :laugh:.
Fireworks – 3
Well, it would seem that Revive is what’s up, despite the late voting for Fireworks. Revive is on to the next round. And we move on to this battle…
Focus – Several FFs
vs.
Random Reels – Final Fantasy X-2
Focus – 12
Random Reels – <font color="red">0</font>
This is the final battle of this round…
Jump (Many FFs)
vs.
Boost (Final Fantasy VIII and IX)
As using that with Freya in FF9 came in extremely useful for me also.
Jump – 11
Boost – 2
Seems Jump was the big win here. And next is…
The new round! Here we go…
Mug/Steal – Most FFs
Jump – Many FFs
GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change – Many FFs
Revive – Many FFs
Focus – Several FFs
Manipulate/Control – Final Fantasy V and VII
Shock – Final Fantasy IX
Climhazzard – Final Fantasy IX
Auto-Life / Reraise – Several FFs
No Encounters – Several FFs
HP Bonuses – Several FFs
Initiative – Final Fantasy VIII, IX (Freya only) and X
Sneak Attack – Final Fantasy VII
Auto-Haste – Final Fantasy IX, X and X-2
Auto-Reflect – Final Fantasy IX, X and X-2
Gillionaire- Final Fantasy X
First up…
Auto-Life / Reraise – Several FFs
vs.
Sneak Attack – Final Fantasy VII
some monsters you couldn’t even beat if you didn’t have this. very helpful
some monsters you couldn’t even beat if you didn’t have this. very helpful
Sneak Attack
Sneak Attack
ok
ROUGE!
Makes me feel "UNSTOPPABLE!" -Juggernaut
It is the ultimate WIN for FFX since you can’t possibly die or be defeated after beating Braska’s Final Aeon!
ROUGE!
Oh you kinky devil :-*
Auto-Life / Reraise – 14
Sneak Attack – 1
Wow, all right. Well, except that that "rouge" (or was it rogue) vote, Auto-Life is the unanimous choice. Next battle may be a bit less one-sided. It’s…
Mug/Steal – Most FFs
vs.
Shock – Final Fantasy IX
Never been much of a thieves class kinda guy.
I agree Agent end it, Its obvious who has won.
Steal
Here goes…
Mug/Steal – 12
Shock – 4
And next…
HP Bonuses – Several FFs
vs.
Gillionaire – Final Fantasy X
Get your pithy HP bonuses from Goodwill? Go home!
HP Bonuses – 13
Gillionaire – 3
Pretty much a walkover for HP Bonuses. Next up is…
Revive – Many FFs
vs.
Auto-Haste – Final Fantasy IX, X and X-2
Auto Haste
Revive – 11
Auto-Haste – 5
Auto-Haste tried to make a comeback, no good, Revive on to the quarter-finals.
Next is…
GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change – Many FFs
vs.
Initiative – Final Fantasy VIII, IX (Freya only) and X
You stole my reply:( But yeah Monies for me to.
Anyways…
GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change – 9
Initiative – 10
In a heated battle, Initiative wins by just one vote.
Next we have…
Manipulate/Control – Final Fantasy V and VII
vs.
Auto-Reflect – Final Fantasy IX, X and X-2
Auto-reflect generally caused more harm than good
Manipulate/Control – 9
Auto-Reflect – 3
Two battles left in this round. First up…
Jump – Many FFs
vs.
No Encounters – Several FFs
no encounters is good but jump just seems classic. gotta vote for jump.
No Encounters – 10
Despite a bit of a last-minute really, Jump loses by several votes.
Final battle of this round…
Focus – Several FFs
vs.
Climhazzard – Final Fantasy IX
Climhazzard – 10
What a battle. Climhazzard was favored at first, but Focus really battled back. And now we end up with a tie. Well, when we have a tie in later rounds, we look to the past votes to determine the results. So…
Focus – 8/8, 12/12
Climhazzard – 9/13, 9/9
Amazingly, Focus swept the board in its two previous battles. Focus to the next round.
Oh, and looky, here is that next round. The quarter-finals…
Mug/Steal – Most FFs
Revive – Many FFs
Focus – Several FFs[
Manipulate/Control – Final Fantasy V and VII
Auto-Life / Reraise – Several FFs
No Encounters – Several FFs
HP Bonuses – Several FFs
Initiative – Final Fantasy VIII, IX (Freya only) and X
The above list is only for reference, because the updated list is in the first post.
First up…
Manipulate/Control – Final Fantasy V and VII
vs.
HP Bonuses – Several FFs
9999 represent.
9999 represent.
9999 represent.
I would find nothing scarier as a monster than 3 guys walking up to me with big weapons and 9999 hp.
HP Bonuses – 11
HP Bonuses wins by a huge margin, interesting, I expected Manipulate/Control to be a least a bit more popular.
Next up…
Mug/Steal – Most FFs
vs.
No Encounters – Several FFs
Nothing beats giving a nice thud on the noggin while robbing a monkey that wears trousers imo.
I did not use these abilities much during my early years of Final Fantasy, but after playing a lot of different RPGs and finally coming back to the FF games, I find it hard not to mug or steal.
so helpful when your too lazy to even enter battles and want to get to where your going immediately.
No Encounters – 4
Big win for Mug/Steal. Next is…
Focus – Several FFs
vs.
Initiative – Final Fantasy VIII, IX (Freya only) and X
Helped me out a lot when facing off against Malboros.
Initiative – 7
Decent battle there. Focus wins by a fairly comfortable margin and is on to the semi-finals.
Last battle before the semi-finals…
Revive – Many FFs
vs.
Auto-Life / Reraise – Several FFs
Two abilities somewhat similar in nature. One restores a KOed member to life at no MP cost (or restores multiple if used in combination with Amarant’s awesome Trance in Final Fantasy IX) and one restores KOed characters automatically, without you having to cast anything once it’s active. Cast your votes!
Auto-Life – 5
Revive squeaks it out by just one vote after an early lead for Auto-Life.
And we’re at the semi-finals. Here’s what’s left!
Mug/Steal – Most FFs
Revive – Many FFs
Focus – Several FFs
HP Bonuses – Several FFs
And here’s the first battle of the semi-finals:
Mug/Steal – Most FFs (This has proved a steady favorite throughout this edition. Mug has been sort of ignored in many cases, though, as people generally prefer Steal. But there’s no doubt the two are pretty much tied to each other. Stealing is needed generally for any of a number of rare and useful items. Thief characters also often play a very important role in the stories of Final Fantasy games, though Locke would say that they’re "treasure-hunters.")
vs.
HP Bonuses – Several FFs (HP Bonuses is a support ability that has been another popular choice here. Obviously a high HP will serious increase your chances of winning the battle. HP bonuses can be anywhere from just 10% to as much as doubling the HP, but no matter how much it is, it’s something you generally want to have.)
Two popular choices, but only one can make the final. Which will it be?
I’ve always loved this piece and I always will.
Mug/Steal, btw~
Mug/Steal – 9
HP Bonuses – 4
Also, Zak Van — ROTFL.
And now our second semi-final battle. Maybe this one will be a bit closer:
Revive – Many FFs (This one just barely squeaked out a win in its previous battle. But it’s certainly a popular choice, on the whole. Revive allows you to instantly bring back a KOed character without expending MP, and who doesn’t like that?)
vs.
Focus – Several FFs (A skill that boosts a single character’s magic power, usually. Can be used repeatedly for increasing gains. Has proven a more popular choice in this edition than I would have ever expected.)
Revive
Oh by the way, sorry for my last mistake in the round before.. was just dozing off a bit that day – hope no confusion was caused >_<.
Never bothered with Focus
Revive – 13
Focus – 4
A couple of additional votes couldn’t save Focus, which does not make it into the final. And here’s that final!
Mug/Steal – Most FFs (Steiner: "!!!? Oh, it’s only you. Why are you all gathered here? Are you scheming another abduction or something?" Blank: "Hey, watch your mouth." Cinna: "We were just discussing ways to restore this district." Zenero: "Yeah." Marcus: "Old timer, you’ve got us all wrong." Benero: "Yeah." Baku: "We’re just tryin’ to rebuild our home. That’s all. What are you doin’ here? From the looks on your face, it seems like you got problems. What’s troublin’ you? Maybe we can help.")
vs.
Revive – Many FFs (Cara: "Grandpa! Please don’t die!!" Butz: Galuf, don’t die! Cure3!" Lenna: "Please. Life!! Faris: "Wake up, ye landlubber! Phoenix Down! Elixir!")
Two very different abilities. Both quite popular. But which will take the final prize? Cast your votes!
Mug/Steal – 10
A tie! Astounding. Well, when there’s a tie, we look to the results of the past battles. A tie for the final, this is is gonna be a doozy. So which one wins it? Let’s see…
Revive – 12/13, 12/15, 11/16, 6/11, 13/17
Mug/Steal – 11/12, 11/13, 12/16, 15/19, 9/13
Those low numbers towards the end for Revive really did it in. Our big winner:
<font color="red">Mug/Steal</font>
So what’s next? I was thinking of doing another "Worst / Most Overrated" edition. We’ve already done Most Overrated Character (Sephiroth.) What else would be good? Here’s some ideas — Lamest Plot Twist, Worst Music Piece, Most Over-Quoted Item, Most Boring Location, Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest. In fact, yeah, I think I want to do one of those. Please cast your vote for one of those choices, unless you feel you have an even better one to suggest, or a blockbuster idea for something not along those lines at all.
but I’ll go for most boring location.
but I’ll go for most boring location.
Most boring location sounds like a good idea. I’ll go with that vote too.
And why do moronic newbs always feel the urge to "apologize for interrupting" when they post a message that has nothing to do with what’s being talked about in an apparently random thread they chose?
I mean, here’s the line of thinking that apparently must be going through your head — "Hey, here’s a topic called the ‘General Final Fantasy Rumble’. Here are people talking about a game involving a continuing series of eliminations involving Final Fantasy-related items. So I think I’ll come and talk about Kingdom Hearts and Galbadia Hotel, neither of which have the least bit to do with anything that’s being talked about." Great thinking!
lawl.
At least it back on topic. On another note, what do you guys think of devil may cry? :p
(dont answer this)
Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest – 10
"Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest" is our choice, as it really pulled ahead at the end there.
I don’t feel like drawing up the full list tonight. Here’s the first battle:
We’re Off a Journey to Obel Lake – Final Fantasy VIII (This subquest takes you to Obel Lake, where you skip stones and engage with a mysterious voice. Later, you play games with "Mr. Monkey" in a forest and hop of to various shorelines to find clues.)
vs.
Clasko is a Failure in Life – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (Clasko never seems to fit in the with the Chocobo Knights. He constantly falls behind and seems more in tune with helping the chocobos than helping the people the chocobo knights are dedicated to serving. In X, he eventually asks you if he should become a knight or a breeder and you can get a small reward if you tell him to be a breeder. In X-2, he’s dumped the breeder thing and joins the Youth League, but fails at that too. Instead, you help him start his own chocobo ranch where the much cooler monster arena used to be.)
And while you’re posting your vote, if you have any nominations, that’d be great.
I nominate ‘The Queen of Cards’ quest from FFVIII and ‘Chocobo Hot and Cold’ from FFIX
Clasko is a Failure in Life
I would also like to throw in the Cactuar Quest from FFX (The one you need to do for Rikkus Sigil)
It was so boring and pointless, I didn’t even do it!
I’d throw in the defend Fort Condor missions, aside from the one in the story line you have to do
The sidequest after you find Choco’s Paradise and you have to visit every beach on the world map (Final Fantasy IX)
probably some more but I can’t think now…
Remind me why he needed Yuna to make his decisions for him?
Clasko is a Failure in Life – 14
We’re Off on a Journey to Obel Lake – 4
Still don’t feel like drawing up the full list, but it will definitely be posted soon. Next battle…
Gold-Digging – Final Fantasy VII (As in digging in your heels to do all the things needed to acquire a gold chocobo. Racing and racing and waiting and breeding, oy vey.)
vs.
I am the Queen of Cards – Final Fantasy VIII (The Queen of Cards monitors the various card game rules throughout the regions. You can play her for rare cards, but she will move about the world, forcing you to chase her down. You can acquire all these cards on Disc 4 instead.)
She’s a cheating whore for having her own damn complicated set of rules!
How the hell are you supposed to memorize every single set of rules from every one of the cities you’ve visited with other players in the Garden constantly wanting to request you play by a certain set of rules like from Galbadia.
I really do hate this sidequest so much, the limit break rewards from it don’t even sound worthwhile at all.
Getting the gold chocobo wasnt too bad
Raising chocobos was actually somewhat fun imo.
As for nominations, FFX’s minigames are just begging to be utilised in this rumble.
What about the Celestial Weapons Sidequest? Or unlocking Anima and the other hidden aeons?
I am the Queen of Cards – 11
A fairly easy win for the Card Queen quest of FFVIII.
Next is…
Bored on the Beaches – Final Fantasy IX (Take your gold chocobo to every beach in the world in order to learn a restorative ability that can then be used at any beach. You won’t get the ability until you’ve hit every single one.)
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My Precious Noojie-Woojie – Final Fantasy X-2 (Turns out the villainous Leblanc has a soft spot, and that’s Nooj of the Youth League. Yeah, she’ll do anything for her precious Noojie Woojie, but how much will we do before we fall asleep from boredom of hearing about it and the controller falls out of our hands?)
BTW, the full list is now drawn up and on the first page. More details will be provided as each battle is done. There are 24, I want more nominations if you have them.
Remember, you’re voting for the one you find most boring.
But I guess I’ll go against the crowd and vote for Bored on the Beaches.
Everytime she said Noojie-Woojie I just wanted to slash my wrists and end it all
Bored on the Beaches – 2
My Precious Noojie-Woojie – 10
No love for Leblanc’s love for (lust for?) Nooj. Next up…
Defend the Condor Fort! – Elena! – Final Fantasy VII (And win lots of lame prizes. Honestly, did we really need this? Sure, the game is kinda fun, but the prizes you got for coming back over and over were generally crap, and it was tedious to do so.)
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Somebody Save Shelinda – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (Actually, somebody save us. From her boring subplot in which she’s all trampled on by everybody for her belief in Yevon, then somehow later on she becomes the head of the guard. And then in X-2, she’s doing crackerjack reporting work. About the only good thing about her was when she providing free healing on Mushroom Rock Road.)
The majority of X’s sidequests were boring, so no surprise here
I actually kind of enjoyed Condor Fort
Defend the Condor Fort – 6
Somebody Save Shelinda – 11
This one was nearly ended by blowout, but then the Condor Fort mission made a surprising comeback, not that that would have been a good thing for it. In any case, "Somebody Save Shelinda" holds on by several votes.
And next is…
Forever Rachel – Final Fantasy VI (Optional sidequest in which Locke attempts to save his lost love, Rachel. He isn’t able to do anything at first, but ends up in the Phoenix Cave eventually. He finds Phoenix, which he tries to use to save her, but only revives her long enough for her to tell him he must move on with his life.)
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A Spiky Situation – Final Fantasy X (Playing games with cactuars in the Bikanel Desert / Sanubia Sands. You must play with all ten in order to gain access to get the Sigil for Rikku’s Godhand weapon. However, you don’t actually have to win the games in order to gain access. Doing so, however, will gain you access to other prizes.)
Like I said before, all of X’s sidequests (except blitzball) were pretty crap
A Spiky Situation – 10
Normally if an entrant loses by blowout, that’s really bad for it, but in this case, it’s really good. Nobody was all that bored by "Forever Rachel," on the other hand, they were apparently bored out of their minds by the cactuar games that went on in "A Spiky Situation." And so it goes on to the next round.
Next up is…
Tetra-Disaster – Final Fantasy IX (After FFVIII’s Triple Triad, a game that was generally enjoyed in most quarters, who wanted Tetra Master? This game was not only insanely difficult to figure out, but what was worse was that for the most part, there was no real reward. And to top that all off, if you were actually crazy enough to play until you reached the top rank, you were rewarded with a glitch.)
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It’s Rare. Really Rare – Final Fantasy XII (FFXII features a sidequest that allows you to hunt 80 rare monsters. Well, some are simply "rare," others are actually unique. But with insane requirements like "20% chance to show up if your clock is between ten and twenty, etc. etc.," who could possibly figure all this out without a guide? And if that’s not bad enough, you have to complete it in order to unlock certain rewards.)
Some are regoddamndiculous. Kill 256 enemies before it shows up? Fuck you.
Some are regoddamndiculous. Kill 256 enemies before it shows up? Fuck you.
Some are regoddamndiculous. Kill 256 enemies before it shows up? Fuck you.
What part of travelling to some out of the way location to have like a 10% chance of finding a monster is fun?
It’s Rare, Really Rare – 15
No love for FFXII’s rare game hunting. I feel that — I’m currently right in the thick of it, got three to go. That 256 one wasn’t so bad, though, at least it showed up once I met the requirements without having to do any stupid hunting.
On we go…
Level Up, Already! – Final Fantasy V (Leveling up is usually a great way to quickly boost the power of your characters. But leveling up in this game was insane. It generally took way too long to level up your characters. What was worse was that past about 40 or 50 or so, there was really no point. There were no bosses, even optional ones, that couldn’t be beaten at those levels. And past that point, it moved beyond insane to completely mucho luco, because there were no good enemies to farm for EXP.)
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Tobli, Yup! Yup! – Final Fantasy X-2 (Yup, yup, yup. You meet this guy in Chapter 1, and he immediately drags your party into all kinds of sidequests ranging from semi-boring to out-and-out snoozefests. He was kinda odd-looking in a fun way and had a funny way of speaking, but did we really care ultimately what happened to him and his musishun crew?)
I wanted to take an axe to that little shit.
I used to play WoW so grinding levels doesn’t bother me anymore.
FOR SHAME
God, I hated him.
Level Up, Already! – 8
Tobli, Yup! Yup! – 8
Hmm, I think that’s our first tie on this edition. All right, since it seems to be so popular elsewhere, I think I’ll give it a try here. We’re going to Sudden Death. I need a vote from somebody who hasn’t already voted. If this hasn’t been settled, oh, by early tomorrow afternoon, I’ll just flip a coin.
Next vote clinches it
Next we have…
The Quizzes of Doom – Final Fantasy IX (Dreamy music! It’s a friendly monster! Nope… sorry, not this time. It’s just the Ragtime Mouse, come to bother you with another annoying, weird true/false quiz about some bit of minutiae from the game. Get even one wrong and you don’t get the special prize at the end.)
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Political Peril – Final Fantasy XII (Lots of gripes out there about XII’s plot, and perhaps one of the biggest was the political machinations. On and on it droned sometimes, characters speaking like they were straight out of medieval times, or some really proper society. Almost made one long for the harsh dialogue of FFVII’s Cid Highwind.)
And like Sobye said, gotta love a bit of politics~
politics = eurgh
I really disliked that you had to get every single question right, or get nothing. There should have been some sort of consolation prize.
Oh, I’m asking that people not vote in that General Cow Rumble thing. I have no idea what that’s about. I’m leaving it open for the time being, though, because I was told that if I didn’t, a giant cow with an axe would come to my home and do things, well, I really can’t even mention here.
I Lol’d. Hahaha.
The Quizzes of Doom – 10
Political Peril – 7
Kinda close, but a fair few people weren’t bothered by the politics, so it’s the quizzes moved on to the second round.
Next up…
Buried in the Snow – Final Fantasy VII (And buried in boredom perhaps, as you try to navigate your way through the snow fields and the mazes of the Great Glacier.)
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The Nearly Unattainable Aeons – Final Fantasy X (Sure, summoning can be cool. But who wants to solve a bunch of annoying puzzles, or go through weird mazes, or play other annoying mini-games, etc. etc., to gain some aeons that you don’t even really need anyway?)
I actually enjoyed getting all the aeons in FFX.
I hated them both, but my vote goes to the snow.
The Nearly Unattainable Aeons – 0
And next is…
Vwao! – Final Fantasy VI (Gau could be an entertaining character, but was he really more than just a nuisance most of the time and something to fill up time? And did we really need the subplot in which everybody tries to dress him up, only to find out that his father doesn’t want him, and never did?)
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You’re a Turks, Elena! – Final Fantasy VII (All right, so the Turks were running shorthanded because of what happened to Tseng. We get that. But was the best that they could dredge up really Elena? And did we really need to hear both her and them going on and on about it all the time?)
Haha, I was going to vote for the Aeons one before, but I missed yesterday. Not that it would have helped any of course.
Vwao! – 5
You’re a Turks, Elena! – 10
A bit closer than I thought, but "You’re a Turks, Elena!" chosen as more boring, sails through.
Not all that much left in this round. Next up…
Frogs = Zzz – Final Fantasy IX (In which you control a fat Qu named Quina while trying to catch bouncy frogs across the world. Needed to power up Frog Drop, one of only a few attacks in the game that could do guaranteed 9999, as well as to gain ability to fight Quale and end Quina’s subplot. An end that couldn’t come too soon for some, but may not have come if they dozed off from trying to catch those frogs.)
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Thunder-Dodging – Final Fantasy X (Okay, lightning dodging actually. Another Celestial Weapon quest. You could get various prizes, but the only one really worth bothering with was the Sigil for Lulu’s weapon. And it required a really annoying amount of dodges — 200. Miss even one, and you had to start over.)
Thunder dodging was like carving out ones eyeballs with a spoon. Completely and utterly god awful.
; ;
Thunder-Dodging – 10
Next up…
You’re Hot, No, You’re Cold! – Final Fantasy IX (Final Fantasy IX’s Chocobo Hot and Cold, in which you run around from place to place trying to find treasures, and [perhaps] being generally bored.)
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Match-maker, Maybe – Final Fantasy X-2 (In which you bore yourself throughout the entire game, trying to find people willing to date some dude in the Calm Lands.)
Oh, and this is the final battle of the first round.
Match-maker, Maybe – 8
And that does end the first round. Let’s see what’s left for the second one:
Level Up, Already! – Final Fantasy V
You’re a Turks, Elena! – Final Fantasy VII
Buried in the Snow – Final Fantasy VII
I am the Queen of Cards – Final Fantasy VIII
The Quizzes of Doom – Final Fantasy IX
Thunder-Dodging – Final Fantasy X
A Spiky Situation – Final Fantasy X
Somebody Save Shelinda – Final Fantasy X and X-2
My Precious Noojie-Woojie – Final Fantasy X-2
Match-maker, Maybe – Final Fantasy X-2
Clasko is a Failure in Life – Final Fantasy X and X-2
It’s Rare. Really Rare – Final Fantasy XII
Just a reminder that the list above is only for reference and the updated results are kept within the first post of the thread, for your safety and my convenience. ๐
First up:
You’re a Turks, Elena! – Final Fantasy VII (Elena: "Oh, thank you very much…! I never expected you’d to come help……" Reno: "Elena, don’t act so weak. You’re a Turks!" Elena: "Y… Yes, sir!" Barret: "Never thought you’d come an’ help us…" Rude: "……" Reno: "Yes… this is Reno. Yes… Yes… I’ll get on it right away?" Elena: "Was that the company?" Reno: "Yeah, they want us to find Cloud…" Rude: "Are we on…?" Reno: "No, today we’re off duty." Yuffie: "Hey– who cares about that!? Get—- me—– down—-!")
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Clasko is a Failure in Life – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (Clasko: "The chocobos found it. They seem to have scented one of their own kind!" Paine: "Well?" Yuna: "Well what?" Paine: "’I bet there’s an amazing chocobo inside.’ ‘But wimpy little me can’t go find it myself.’ Is that it?" Clasko: "Yes! That’s exactly right!" Paine: "See?")
As we go into this next round, just another general reminding that you’re voting for the one you consider to be more boring/irritating/annoying, etc.
Clasko is a (Total) Failure in Life – 11
Closer than I thought it would be, but the Clasko scenario wins by several votes. Next up is…
The Quizzes of Doom – Final Fantasy IX (Pop Quiz! True/False – "Fossil Roo joins Treno and Alexandria" … "The Burkmeia Cable Cares were built 87 years ago." … "Prima Vista means ‘Love at first sight.’" And so on, so on…)
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Somebody Save Shelinda – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (Shelinda: "Well after the Calm came, the temples were in decline. At first, I thought the best thing I could do would be to help the temples get back on their feet. But everyone just ordered me around. I got tired of it." Yuna: "You couldn’t just tell them ‘no’?" Shelinda: "That’s the part of me I wanted to change! I made up my mind to leave the temple and come here to Luca. They needed people for this, and they asked me to help…so, here I am." Paine: "Another job you were ‘asked’ to do?" Shelinda: "I suppose nothing about me has really changed after all. I gotta run! My next assignment is about to start. See you later, Lady Yuna!" Paine: "She complains, but you can tell she enjoys it." Rikku: "Sounds a bit like Yunie, don’t you think?" Yuna: "Really? Rikku: "Dr. P, care to give us your opinion?" Paine: "The hardest person to know is yourself." Yuna: "Hey, cut that out!")
We have a higher proportion of X and X-2 ones, so I’m going ahead and getting another out of the way. Cast your votes!
At least TQOD were something different from random battles.
As much as I hated the quizzes, I hated Shelinda more.
The Quizzes of Doom – 2
Boring though the quizzes may have been to some, this was an easy "win" for the Shelinda scenario. And we have next…
I am the Queen of Cards – Final Fantasy VIII (Queen: "Basically, each region has its own rules. The rules you’re carrying are passed on as you travel to various regions. As for the trading rules, they gradually spread out from a region where the card game is most popular. Of course, this region can change constantly depending on your course and actions. Also, my presence in a region can change its trading rules at times.")
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A Spiky Situation – Final Fantasy X (Erm, yeah, spikey, ya’ay! There’s really no quote to go with this.)
Also because I put more time in the Queen of Cards sidequest than I did with this one.
A Spiky Situation – 8
So the FFX cactuar quest moves on to the next round by just one vote. Next up is…
Buried in the Snow – Final Fantasy VII ("So where did we land? Looks like we’ve jumped pretty far… …It sure is cold. We’ll freeze if we stay here any longer.")
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My Precious Noojie-Woojie – Final Fantasy X-2 (Shinra: "Hm, I’m getting signals from the CommSphere we dropped in that hole, but I can’t seem to connect. Leblanc: "Enough, little boy. Move aside! … See? It connected." Shinra: "Inconceivable!" Gippal: "Impressive machina! An invention like this could change the world. Whoever came up with this is a genius." Shinra: "He’s got good taste." Gippal: "Guess I’m a genius, too, for fixing it! Anybody home?" Yuna: "Gippal!" Shinra: "I don’t think he can hear us." Gippal: "No response. Hm." Nooj: "Some genius." Leblanc: "Noojie!")
Oh, BTW, the Final Fantasy V Rumble (Classics section) has started. The category, music, has been chosen, and it’s all looking to be quite exciting. However, so far, there doesn’t seem to be much activity, so if you’re interested, head on over and cast your vote, and nominations are also appreciated.
I nearly gave up on the game at this point.
Buried in the Snow – 8
My Precious Noojie-Woojie – 4
People were definitely way irritated by both, but Buried in the Snow was the definite choice here. Its irritating factor is so strong that it earns it a spot in the third round.
And, now we have…
Match-maker, Maybe – Final Fantasy X-2
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It’s Rare. Really Rare – Final Fantasy XII
We only have one more battle left in the round after this. Cast your votes!
(Why was Buried in the Snow made to a cell phone game?)
Going back forth between areas just to make some random monster possibly appear is not my idea of fun.
This is not even close.
It’s Rare, Really Rare – 11
If not for those early votes, it would have been a blowout. The FFXII rare monster scenario easily moves to the third round. And there’s just one battle left before that. That battle is…
Level Up, Already! – Final Fantasy V
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Thunder-Dodging – Final Fantasy X
This one sucked
I’d rather be root canelled then do that again.
So frustrating I never bothered finishing the damn thing
I threw my controller so far after failing after 190 bolts =\
So frustrating I never bothered finishing the damn thing
Ha, same here..I just got caught up on blitzball at the save point instead for the rest of my FFX play time.
Eight Hours that Game Cost me.
Level Up, Already! – 2
Thunder-Dodging – 13
The only reason I didn’t end it early is because I don’t like to have to update the FFV Rumble and this on the same evening if I don’t have to — I would have done it if there was a pure blowout, but there wasn’t. Well, there was, but by the time I got to it, the first vote for the other had come in.
Besides, I enjoyed reading the comments on the "Thunder-Dodging." Personally, I actually mastered that one fairly quickly. But don’t feel too envious — it was the butterfly-catching thing that really screwed me — that was the one I never finished.
And now it’s third round time!
Here’s what’s left…
Buried in the Snow – Final Fantasy VII
Thunder-Dodging – Final Fantasy X
A Spiky Situation – Final Fantasy X
Somebody Save Shelinda – Final Fantasy X and X-2
Clasko is a Failure in Life – Final Fantasy X and X-2
It’s Rare. Really Rare – Final Fantasy XII
And here’s the first battle:
Buried in the Snow – Final Fantasy VII (Holzoff: "30 Years ago, Yamski and I took this cliff on to see what was on the other side. But, we weren’t prepared for it. We did expect the temperature to be low but… On that cliff, there’s always a biting cold wind. The cold air lowers your body temperature. Yamski, was below me. He cut his own rope… …and I didn’t even notice…")
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Clasko is a Failure in Life – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (Clasko: "I don’t know where I belong. I’ve spent my whole life drifting from one failure to the next. But, I can’t keep doing this forever. I know that there’s a place for everyone in this world-even someone as sad and pathetic as me.")
I hated them both equally, but the fact the Clasko thing had to run over two games is just plain wrong.
Clasko is a Failure in Life – 4
Fairly close, but Buried in the Snow moves on by a couple votes.
Next is…
A Spiky Situation – Final Fantasy X (This boring FFX subquest is one of several FFX items to make it to this round of the rumble? But is so boring that it will earn a spot in the next round?)
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It’s Rare. Really Rare – Final Fantasy XII (Not much love for the rare monsters. This one has generally been selected fairly heavily in past rounds. But was hunting for rare game more boring than fiddling around with cactuar minigames?)
haha, I voted at the same time as you updated…that’s eager voting from me mir?
It’s Rare Really Rare – 7
That was a hot one. ๐ It really looked like "A Spiky Situation was going to win, but Really Rare rallied and pulled the victory. Well, "victory" as such, since it’s not good for any of the entrants to move on in this competition.
With that in mind, we’ve reached the end of the third round. We’re really getting down to the wire here, and we end the round with this battle:
Thunder-Dodging (The quest to dodge 200 lightning bolts and gain the needed Sigil for Lulu’s Celestial Weapon caused frustration and anger. It’s been a top pick throughout this edition and could very well lock up the "win," as such.)
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Somebody Save Shelinda – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (This one is sort of like the Clasko thing. It was irritating enough to be subjected to it in X. But to have to deal with it in two games? Hoo boy.)
The one thing that caused me to scream and throw my controller at the screen…
We should really just award it the trophy now. Nothing else can possibly be as tedious as that gem of a sidequest.
Thunder-Dodging – 7
Somebody Save Shelinda – 0
Which means we can move on to the next round, the Eliminatior…
Buried in the Snow – Final Fantasy VII
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Thunder-Dodging – Final Fantasy X
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It’s Rare. Really Rare – Final Fantasy XII
This time around, you’re choosing the one you find least boring/annoying and whichever one gets the most votes won’t move on to the final.
This will remain open either until tomorrow evening, or until three nights from now. Reason being that I don’t like to update this at the same time as the FFV Rumble if I don’t have to. So tomorrow if the results are obvious, three nights if it’s a close-call.
Only one I ever actually completed…
Thunder-Dodging – 0
It’s Rare. Really Rare – 2
And there we have it. Buried in the Snow not all that irritating by comparison and therefore not moving on the final. That leaves our final battle as…
Thunder-Dodging – Final Fantasy X (Seemingly the ultimate in irritation and aggravation to many. 200. 200 stinking lightning bolts needed to gain the Sigil required to power up Lulu’s Celestial Weapon. No wonder Rikku hates the Thunder Plains.)
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It’s Rare. Really Rare – Final Fantasy XII (80 rare monsters? Absurd conditions like them only being available during certain times on the clock, or having a certain percentage, or having to do one before you can do the other? Or kill 255 within a section and then it might show up? It’s easy to see why someone might simply choose to hang the whole thing and not complete it.)
Thunder-Dodging seems to have already been declared the victor — but could we have an upset? You never quite know with these rumbles. Voting will be open for two days, regardless of how the votes are cast.
At least it was feasible (though admittedly tiresome) to find all the rare monsters.
Really Rare – 1
Well, that’s it. Thunder-Dodging proves itself as the winner. 200. 200 stinking bolts! Well, take that, ya’ lame sidequest!
That’s the end of that edition. Feel free to share your thoughts for now. Also, if you have any ideas for the next edition, go ahead post them. If I see something that I think is really good that hasn’t already been used or isn’t similar to something already used, then that’s what we’ll go with. If not, I’ll come up with something. Stay tuned!
At least it was feasible (though admittedly tiresome) to find all the rare monsters.
Hmm, the Thunder-Dodging is definitely feasible lol, it just takes a long time to do it xD. Just like finding and killing all of the rare monsters does. In fact, the Thunder-Dodging was actually easier to do than the rare monsters, all you had to do was sit there pressing X for god knows how long lol.
i mean, its not like the same people are here voting the last time it was done.
Hmm, the Thunder-Dodging is definitely feasible lol, it just takes a long time to do it xD. Just like finding and killing all of the rare monsters does. In fact, the Thunder-Dodging was actually easier to do than the rare monsters, all you had to do was sit there pressing X for god knows how long lol.
Oh, totally agree. And there’s actually a good strategy I found for working the Thunder-Dodging. Honestly, it really didn’t give me too much of a problem — I had more trouble with the chocobo race and the butterflies.
*dies a little bit inside*
Again, i suppose its been done. I dunno.
That was the very first edition ever. The list of everything that’s been done is on the first page. That said, character themes could be recycled — there are ones that I don’t think we included originally.
Tifa’s Theme was the winner of the original. Though the rumble wasn’t nearly as well organized at the time, and there were only a very limited number of voters. So maybe it is time for character themes again.
But seriously, I like Character themes/Bosses.
I personally think that either Cid’s Theme or Amarant’s Theme are going to take it…
Yeah, you’re right, we did. I think we might have, but I couldn’t find the second listing. Now I see it, though.
Well, all right, we’ll do it again anyway. Tifa’s Seventh Heaven and Red XIII’s Theme are ineligible, as they are previous winners. Anything else is up for grabs. Keep in mind that the theme doesn’t necessarily have to have the character’s name in it to be their theme — for example, "My Mind" from FFVIII is generally considered "Squall’s Theme." Right now I’m taking nominations, so if you have ones that you like, please start suggesting.
Final Fantasy IV:
-Theme of Love (I consider it a theme, but it’s up to Agent)
Final Fantasy VI:
-Kefka’s Theme
Final Fantasy VII:
-Cid’s Theme
-Turk’s Theme
Final Fantasy IX:
-Amarant’s Theme,
-Kuja’s Theme
-any other character from FFIX that has a theme,
Final Fantasy X:
-Jecht’s Theme
-Auron’s Theme
Final Fantasy XII:
Theme of the Empire (I consider it a theme but again, I leaves it up to Agent)
Penelo’s Theme – FFXII
Shadow’s Theme -FFVI
Barret’s Theme- FFVII
Rufus’ Theme (Rufus Welcoming Ceremony) – FFVII <–does that count?
Also…the Shinra Company theme…does that count for Scarlet and that other executive’s theme?
Eh that’s all.
Character themes for FFVI are simply called the name of the character, i.e. "Terra," "Mog" "Umaro," etc. I believe it’s the only Final Fantasy game there is where every one of the playable characters has a theme (and that’s a lot), though I could be wrong. That’s because they all play during the ending sequence.
I nominate tomorrow evening
Sorry, overriden. I’ve decided I want to start it tonight. I’ve accepted all your nominations and added in my own choices to round out the rest. Here’s what’s been decided on…
Theme of Love – Final Fantasy IV
Lenna/Reina’s Theme – Final Fantasy V
Cyan – Final Fantasy VI
Kefka – Final Fantasy VI
Relm – Final Fantasy VI
Setzer – Final Fantasy VI
Terra – Final Fantasy VI
Shadow – Final Fantasy VI
Barret’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII
Cait Sith’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII
Cid’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII
Don Corneo’s Theme (Don of the Slums) – Final Fantasy VII
Rufus’s Theme (Rufus Welcoming Ceremony) – Final Fantasy VII
Seto’s Theme (The Great Warrior Seto) – Final Fantasy VII
Shera’s Theme (Sending a Dream into the Universe) – Final Fantasy VII
Shinra Corporation – Final Fantasy VII
Turks’ Theme – Final Fantasy VII
Yuffie’s Theme (Descendant of the Shinobi) – Final Fantasy VII
Ultimecia/Artimesia’s Theme (Succession of Witches) – Final Fantasy VIII
Amarant/Salamander’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Zidane’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Beatrix’s Theme (Rose of May / Loss of Me) – Final Fantasy IX
Eiko’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Kuja’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Steiner’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Vivi’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Auron’s Theme – Final Fantasy X
Jecht’s Theme – Final Fantasy X
Lulu’s Theme- Final Fantasy X
Rikku’s Theme – Final Fantasy X
Seymour’s Theme – Final Fantasy X
Penelo’s Theme – Final Fantasy XII
Remember, the list above is only for reference. Here’s the first battle…
Shadow – Final Fantasy VI (Though FFVI has a tune called something along the lines of "Wild West," this definitely has a sort of Wild West feel to it. I could easily imagine this playing in some old saloon somewhere.)
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Seymour’s Theme – Final Fantasy X (This creepy theme generally plays during any sequence involving Seymour. It quickly conveys that this is one twisted dude.)
(Btw, what will happen with FFX rumble?)
but Seymour’s is dark and quite matches his intentions…
…hmm tough one…
but i will go with… damn, man lol …Shh….Sey …Shadow
We don’t know yet. It can hold till tomorrow and then we can see about it then…
Seymour’s Theme
Also question, Isnt Mystery Sword Beatrix’s theme? Or is that just for her battles.
I’ll go with his theme.
Always disliked Seymour’s theme. I consider it one of the worst character’s theme Uematsu ever composed.
Seymour’s Theme
Hated the character itself, but I thought the theme was fairly well done.
Btw, it might be useful to link sound files, to refresh people’s memory of the themes.
๐ Sorry.
Also question, Isnt Mystery Sword Beatrix’s theme? Or is that just for her battles.
Mystery Sword is her battle theme. Her actually character theme is considered to be "Rose of May," although for some reason it’s also often listed as "Loss of Me."
=O nobody nominated Sephiroth’s theme?
Sephiroth has a theme?
I thought "Wild West" was actually The Veldt theme?
No, all I was trying to get at was that Shadow’s Theme feels to me like something that somebody might hear if they were at a saloon somewhere within the real "wild west," or at least, it sounds like something someone might set a TV scenario about that to.
All right…
Shadow – 8
Seymour’s Theme – 11
So Seymour’s Theme wins, but it was actually closer than I thought. Thanks for the turnout!
Next up…
Cait Sith’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII (Cait Sith’s bouncy, fun theme often plays during scenes involving him, particularly when you first meet him the Gold Saucer.)
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Steiner’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX (Steiner has a purely comic theme that seems to very well fit the bumbling knight of FFIX.)
Just sounded better and besides I never really liked Cait Sith’s theme.
Also I like how at some parts it sounds like it belongs in some Italian movie or something.
We forgot to nominate Freya’s Theme! ๐
Cait Sith’s Theme is a competent enough tune, but doesn’t really challenge ol’ Steiner on this one.
Cait Sith’s Theme – 1
Steiner’s Theme – 11
Not even really a battle here. "Steiner’s Theme" wins by a massive margin, only one vote for Cait Sith’s Theme.
Maybe we can have a better battle with…
Seto’s Theme (The Great Warrior Seto) – Final Fantasy VII (As far as I know, this theme only plays once, when Bugenhagen reveals to Red XIII the truth about his father Seto. It’s a slowed-down, tender version of the Cosmo Canyon theme. I think it might also play on Disc 3 when and if you revisit Bugenhagen and he reveals that he’s dying.)
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Zidane’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX (Another theme that only plays once — during the scene where everyone’s boarding the cargo ship departing Lindblum / "ooh, soft" situation. A very joyful, upbeat theme.)
I really liked the Cosmo Canyon theme, so it follows I’d like this one.
I’d forgotten about this theme. Easy choice for me.
I hated it at first tbh but love it now <3
I really liked the Cosmo Canyon theme, so it follows I’d like this one.
Zidane’s Theme – 8
We have a tie-breaker situation here. Since it’s the first round, I’m going to leave it to Sudden Death. First vote within the next 24 hours from somebody that hasn’t already voted on it wins it. If none after 24, then I toss a coin.
I wanna try something different here. While we wait for that, we’re also moving on to the next battle…
Cyan – Final Fantasy VI (A noble theme befitting a noble warrior. Generally plays during scenes involving him, including when you first meet him. I think it also generally plays in Doma Castle.)
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Ultimecia/Artimesia’s Theme (Succession of Witches) – Final Fantasy VIII (Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinsoec! This is the theme played during scenes involving both Ultimecia and the possessed Edea.)
This is one of the greatest medleys in the game. And I believe that one of FFVIII’s most strongest points was it’s musical score.
to choose one but ill will go with….
Ultimecia’s Castle
I’m gonna go with Cyan though
Cyan gets my vote tho for being clutch in battle.
Cyan – 5
Succession of Witches – 8
Not a bad battle, but "Succession of Witches" seemed to be the definite favorite throughout. It moves to the second round, and we move to this battle…
Rufus’s Theme (Rufus Welcoming Ceremony) – Final Fantasy VII (This lively theme was featured in Junon and was apparently liked so well that it was reprised in Final Fantasy IX by the Tantalus performers. It’s very lively, but considering that it kept playing over and over in Junon, it could easily get on one’s nerves if they heard it too long, I would think. Oh, and it has lyrics.)
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Turks’ Theme – Final Fantasy VII (It generally plays whenever they show up and suggests that there’s gonna be trouble.)
We have quite a few VII themes in the mix, so this is the VII vs. VII battle. Cast your votes!
Haha lyrics…I forgot.
Rufus’s Welcoming Ceremony – 10
Turks’ Theme – 3
The Turks could only muster three votes for their theme in this battle. The Rufus march flies onwards to the second round.
And we fly onward to this exciting battle:
Terra – Final Fantasy VI (This theme is heard on the world map throughout most of the World of Balance and is heard in various forms in other tracks, including the opening introduction.)
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Auron’s Theme – Final Fantasy X ("This is your story. It all begins here." Plays in many scenes involving Auron, including the final scene in which he fades away into pyreflies.)
One of the best pieces. Ever.
Auron doesnt have a chance.
Auron’s Theme – 0
And the hopes for Auron’s Theme fade away into pyrefiles. Just couldn’t compete against Terra.
Next…
Eiko’s Theme (Plays during many sequences involving Eiko, including the Eiko’s Kitchen / Eiko’s Feeling ATE sequences. A "Melodies of Life" version of the tune is played during the scenes with her in Alexandria Castle, but I’ve never known this version to be available on any soundtrack.)
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Lulu’s Theme (Has a definite theme of mystery about it. I think it’s the music used in the Cavern of the Stolen Fayth, though somebody correct me if I’m wrong on that.)
Along with Compression of time it’s my favorite FF track of all time.
Eiko’s theme is a more upbeat. More enjoyable to listen to.
Lulu’s Theme – 7
Eiko’s Theme seemed like a favorite from the beginning, and indeed, after a stretch of four votes for Lulu’s Theme, the voting for that one just sorta petered out. So it’s Eiko’s Theme on to the second round.
The next battle is…
Relm – Final Fantasy VI (Like most other VI themes, it plays when you first meet her. I believe it also plays when she shows up during that one battle with Ultros and says that she’s gonna paint uncle Ulty’s portrait. It’s a sweet theme, but some have complained that it doesn’t fit her character, and I’ve known others to complain that’s boring. So how will it fare here?)
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Penelo’s Theme – Final Fantasy XII (The only entrant from XII in this edition. This theme plays when she shows up in the village on the Giza Plains. I think there may be one or two other times that it’s used — it definitely has that feel of something that could be used in multiple situations. Not sure. A very lighthearted, fun theme.)
I’m so sad Lulu’s theme lost :[
but Penelo’s Theme for me
Penelo’s Theme – 9
Relm took the early lead, but it was Penelo’s Theme that scored the victory and is on to the second round.
We’re getting kinda close to that second round, but we still have a fair ways to go. So let’s keep it moving with…
Cid’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII (This joyful theme is played when you first meet him, and in various other situations, including taking over as both the flying the airship and general world map theme immediately before the return to Midgar mission.)
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Kuja’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX (This dark piano theme generally plays in most scenes involving him, including when you first meet him and in some of the Active Time Event scenes later in the game.)
Oh, a couple of cool milestones — under the normal 25 posts per page format, this thread has reached its 200th page. Also, sometime within this battle (assuming anything close to a normal voting rate), somebody will get the 5000th post. No idea who that’s gonna be yet — but to whoever it ends up being — ya’ay them! ๐
Best piece in the entire game, also loving the lot of youtube videos of people playing it on piano!
but if we are talking about Kuja’s Theme- Millennium Version.
than my vote will change…
wait what am I saying both are great ;_; beautiful peice of music
Best scene when Kuja is leaving, the hero’s are all beat up and stuff…
Damn, missed the 5000th post by 1
Tough decision, though.
After listening to both of them, I chose Kuja’s Theme.
Cid’s Theme – 9
Kuja’s Theme – 12
Great turnout. Kuja’s Theme takes it by three votes.
Next battle is…
Lenna/Reina’s Theme – Final Fantasy V (The only tune from V in this edition. Generally plays in scenes involving this character.)
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Don Corneo’s Theme (Don of the Slums) – Final Fantasy VII (This tune somehow seems to suit the Don’s lecherous nature. "Ladies — line up in front of the Don!")
Pimpin’
Going to have to go with Don Corneo’s Theme by default here, having not played FFV.
I’ll go with Reina/Lenna Theme
I’ve never played V, so I guess I’m voting by default.
Mischevious theme…gotta love it.
Sorry, I think it would have lost to just about anything — too many people saying they haven’t played V. Come on people, get on it! ๐
Lenna/Reina’s Theme – 3
Don of the Slums – 8
Next up is…
Setzer – Final Fantasy VI (Like any other FFVI character theme, it plays when you meet and name the character. I believe it’s also used as the "walking about" theme while moving about onboard on at least one of his airships.)
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Vivi’s Theme (I’m pretty sure that this is the music that plays around the start of the game when you’re first moving about throughout Alexandria as him. Can’t think offhand of any other instances where it plays, though I’m pretty sure there are others where it does.)
2x its an awesome game
Vivi’s Theme
I really like this. And the beginning reminds me a little of Gargan Roo. So it gets extra points for that aswell.
I can’t think of a reason why but I choose setzer’s theme.
Turns out it’s pretty close. Tough decision, but as Vivi’s Theme is behind, I’ll give it my vote to level the scores.
I love the atmosphere it creates.
Setzer – 8
Vivi’s Theme – 7
Yep. "Setzer" wins it by one vote.
Barret’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII (I’m pretty sure this lively, upbeat theme is only used once — when you wake up in Tifa’s Seventh Heaven after resolving the big fight with Barret and then as walking-about music throughout up until you board the train.)
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Jecht’s Theme – Final Fantasy X (Played in situations involving Jecht and generally during the Jecht Sphere sequences. I think it went down recently over at the X Rumble. Might it fare differently here?)
And also because it very narrowly went down at my X rumble in having to break a 9-9 tie.
I really like Barret’s as well, though.
Cause its a cool theme
Barret’s Theme was nice, I just prefer Jecht’s.
Jecht’s Theme – 10
Not too much of a contest here — Jecht’s more bluesy theme easily beats out the cheery Barret theme.
Our next battle is…
Shinra Corporation – Final Fantasy VII (It plays in many situations where Shinra brass show up — such as one of the presidents flies into a situation via helicopter, or during the scene in which you learn that President Shinra is dead.)
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Beatrix’s Theme (Rose of May / Loss of Me) – Final Fantasy IX (The two names for the tune seem to show up about equally, though I’d never known it as anything other than "Rose of May" for quite a while. Anyway, not her battle theme — "The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword." Instead, this theme plays during most non-battle related situations involving her, such as when she considers just what it is she is doing on the Red Rose, and when Zidane finally finds her in Alexandria after Baku says that he saw "that chick.")
Beatrix’s Theme is a hugely popular favorite, but VII’s music is well-liked too and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Shinra Corporation put up a strong battle. Cast your votes!’
P.S.: A "programming note" of sorts — FFVII themes are going to be showing up pretty much in every battle in the first round from here on out. It’s just how it is, given the huge preponderance of themes from that game that made it into this edition of the rumble.
I don’t know why, but I just thought this tune fitted really well.
Shinra’s did get annoying after a while, but Loss of Me I can sit at the piano and play it over and over gain and not get bored.
/fanboy’s cry
The popular theme gets my vote.
Rose of May – 8
Last couple of votes break the tie. Beatrix’s Theme, Rose of May, wins in a fantastically close battle.
We’re plugging along to the end of the round, but still have a few battles left. Let’s continue with…
Kefka – Final Fantasy VI (It plays in many situations involving Kefka, including when he shows up in Doma and poisons the water. An intense theme that definitely hints at his craziness.)
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Shera’s Theme (Sending a Dream into the Universe) – Final Fantasy VII (It’s essentially a much more downbeat version of Cid’s Theme that nonetheless has its own charm. It’s used throughout the recollection sequence when Shera recalls the events that led to the failure to launch the rocket. That’s why I think of it as "Shera’s Theme." It’s also used in at least a couple of other situations throughout the game.)
Anyway Kefka
EDIT: And this is the first time I’ve heard of SaDitU labeled as a character theme for Shera. I’ve seen it be called "Dreams to the Cosmos" among other stuff, but never that.
Do you mean "do I end the vote early past a certain cut-off point"? Yes, and that point is 8-0, which we’ve reached.
That ends this battle — next one starts this evening.
Kefka – 8
Sending a Dream into the Universe – 0
No love for the VII piece, at all. Kefka wins this one, no question, and is looking like a strong contender for future battles.
Two battles left in this round. First of those…
Theme of Love – Final Fantasy IV (That being the theme of Cecil and Rosa’s love presumably. Honestly, it’s been a fair while since I’ve played IV and my knowledge of some of the game’s music is a bit rusty.)
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Amarant/Salamander’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX (Oh, hey, look, a battle without FFVII for a change. This theme plays when he shows up on the scene, and seems to suit his character fairly well.)
Given the number of people that haven’t played the classics, I’m really not sure how this one is going to go. Cast your votes!
After listening to both of them, Amarant’s Theme because it’s Amarant…also swing tempo.
Amarant’s Theme – 8
Much closer than I would have expected, but Amarant’s Theme continues to the second round. Hope everyone’s enjoying their holiday weekend, for those that get a holiday weekend this weekend.
This is the final battle of the first round…
Yuffie’s Theme (Descendant of the Shinobi) – Final Fantasy VII (It plays when you meet her after defeating her in one of the "random" battles in the forest. It also plays after you defeat Godo as her in the Wutai Pagoda.)
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Rikku’s Theme – Final Fantasy X (Rikku’s Theme is used only once in FFX — when you meet up with her on the banks of the Moonflow and she joins the party.)
These two seem somewhat similar in nature, but which will come out on top? Cast your votes!
Anyway, Descendant of Shinobi because Rikku’s Theme seems to be doing pretty well over in the X rumble…
I like both themes, but Rikku’s doesn’t quite stand out as much in my memory.
Rikku’s Theme – 3
Descendant of the Shinobi – 12
Hey, why not give links so we can have a fair vote regardless of who hasn’t played the classics? I don’t vote when something I don’t know is involved, but just an idea…
Well, I guess because it took me about ten seconds to plug the appropriate search terms in to Google to find the appropriate item and I figured that anyone who really must have an MP3 of the item could do that too. But if it’s really necessary, I’ll see about it…
In any case, it’s time to start Round 2. Here’s what’s left:
Kefka – Final Fantasy VI
Setzer – Final Fantasy VI
Terra – Final Fantasy VI
Don Corneo’s Theme (Don of the Slums) – Final Fantasy VII
Rufus’s Theme (Rufus Welcoming Ceremony) – Final Fantasy VII
Seto’s Theme (The Great Warrior Seto) – Final Fantasy VII
Yuffie’s Theme (Descendant of the Shinobi) – Final Fantasy VII
Ultimecia/Artimesia’s Theme (Succession of Witches) – Final Fantasy VIII
Amarant/Salamander’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Beatrix’s Theme (Rose of May / Loss of Me) – Final Fantasy IX
Eiko’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Kuja’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Steiner’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Jecht’s Theme – Final Fantasy X
Seymour’s Theme – Final Fantasy X
Penelo’s Theme – Final Fantasy XII
And here’s the first battle:
Setzer – Final Fantasy VI (Locke: "Who’s this "Wandering Gambler"…?" Man: "You born on a farm, son?" A black jack-playing, world-traveling casino-dwelling free spirit… Man: "SETZER! The owner of the world’s only airship." Celes: "If we could get that airship, we’d make the Empire in no time." Locke: "Let’s set up a meeting… with Setzer…")
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Kuja’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX (Mystery Man: "I find this rain quite pleasant… I feel as though the raindrops are blessing our victory…" Brahne: "This is a great victory for us. Kuja, your black mages made this conquest so simple. My only concern now is finding the king of Burmecia. We must take care of him once and for all, and prevent these rats from ever rising up again. Beatrix, what’s taking so long!?")
Keep in mind that the above list is only for reference as we start the round — you can find the updated results in the first post of the thread.
I’m not about to let Kuja’s Theme knock out another great piece.
Hmm, too late…
Setzer – 5
Kuja’s Theme – 10
Next battle…
Seto’s Theme (The Great Warrior Seto) – Final Fantasy VII (Red XIII: "I am Nanaki of Cosmo Canyon! The son of the warrior, Seto! I’ll come back a warrior true to that noble name! So please, Grandpa…")
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Seymour’s Theme – Final Fantasy X (Shelinda: "My… Was the lady summoner not with you?" Tidus: "No. She’s at Seymour’s place." Shelinda: "That’s ‘Maester Seymour’ or ‘Lord Seymour.’" Tidus: "Oh, I’ll be careful. Sorry.")
No contest here, really.
No contest here, really.
And Seto’s Theme gets my vote in this one, though it’s probably already an 8-0 whitewash as it is. (edit: just saw Zak’s vote, but what the hell, the result isn’t in any doubt)
The Great Warrior Seto – 13
Seymour’s Theme – 1
Garamond, please cast an actual vote, or better yet, don’t vote at all. I don’t know why you’re trying to pretend at actually liking anything about Final Fantasy. ๐
The next battle of the second round is…
Kefka – Final Fantasy VI (Kefka: "Now that Leo’s gone, I’ll turn this water into a flowing river of poison!" Leo: "The Emperor has ordered me to return home. I don’t want any trouble here!" Kefka: "You loser! I’ll take care of this situation in no time!" Leo: "Don’t be pompous! And DON’T forget that they are PEOPLE, just like you and me." Kefka: "We need not spare those lands that gave rise to the Returners! … … You just go and be a good little boy… Is the poison ready?" Soldier: "But, General Leo said…" Kefka: "He’s no longer here! I’m in charge now. Pour it!" Soldier: "Some of our people are prisoners inside the castle! If we poison the river…" Kefka: "Do it! Take ’em all out!")
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Eiko’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX (Eiko: "Did I make the right decisions? … Start cooking! Grandpa… I don’t wanna be alone anymore. Help me do this right…")
Funnily enough. I was talking about this in chat yesterday. My itunes shuffled to it and i said it was awesome.
Eiko’s Theme – 6
Kinda competitive, but it seemed like "Eiko’s Theme" was playing catchup the entire time. It moves on to the quarter finals, but we’ll have to see if it’s strong enough to make it past that. Now we move on to…
Don Corneo’s Theme (Don of the Slums) – Final Fantasy VII (Corneo: "Or… maybe… HER? Yuffie: "Oh GAWD! If I knew this was gonna happen, I would’ve taken rope lessons more seriously!!" Corneo: "Hmm!! I’ve made my choice! My companion for the night will be…… …the cheerful one!" Yuffie: "GROSS-NESS! Don’t mess with me old man! You don’t even have any Materia!" Corneo: "Oooooh! And she’s saucy, too! Wheee! Wheee!")
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Ultimecia/Artimesia’s Theme (Succession of Witches) – Final Fantasy VIII (Ultimecia: (as Edea) "…Lowlifes. …Shameless filthy wretches. How you celebrate my ascension with such joy. Hailing the very one you have condemned for generations. Have you no shame? What happened to the evil, ruthless sorceress from your fantasies?")
I’m ganna have to go with Ultimecia, again (plus the better piece).
I’m gonna have to go with Ultimecia, again (plus the better piece).
Also… Succession of Witches is Ultimecia’s Theme? Since when? If it’s not official I would have assumed it to be FLWV… or A Sacrifice or even The Extreme. Either of those would have gotten my vote.
Considering when they’re all played I’d assume one of those would be more fitting than SoW.
one of the reason why FF VII is my favorite FF…
…it’s not looking too good for Don Corneo. C’mon!
Don of the Slums – 5
Succession of Witches – 12
Oh, and I’m not the one who came up with the idea of "Succession of Witches" being Ultimecia’s Theme — it was a nomination. I don’t remember whose, though somebody can claim credit if they want (I’m not looking it up right now.)
Next battle…
Steiner’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX (Steiner: "Knights of Pluto! ASSEMBLE!!! [and… cue Steiner’s Theme!] Huh? Where is everybody!?" Blutzen, Pluto Knight II: "Captain, sir!" Kohel, Pluto Knight III: "All present and accounted for, sir!" Steiner: "What are you talking about!? There’s only two of you! Where are the other six!? Why, you useless good-for-nothings! I bring orders from the queen! Get dressed and go find Princess Garnet!")
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Jecht’s Theme – Final Fantasy X (Wakka: "Whoa, this is old! Don’t know if you can play it back. Auron: "Jecht left it here ten years ago. Play it back." Auron: "What are you taking?" Jecht: "Well, you said it was gonna be a long trip. We’ll be seeing a lot of neat things, right? So I thought I’d record it all in this. To show to my wife and kid, you know." Auron: "This is no pleasure cruise!" Jecht: "Hey, Braska. Ain’t this supposed to be a grand occasion? Where’re the cheering fans? The crying women?")
Jecht’s Theme didn’t hack it over in the X Rumble, IIRC, but it managed the second round here. Does it have a chance against the somewhat more comical Steiner’s Theme? Cast your votes!
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…Jecht’s theme
its the best theme rather than Jecht’s Theme its by a mile
Sucks though, cause I really like Steiner’s…
Jecht’s Theme – 5
Not a bad battle, though a bit low on overall votes. "Steiner’s Theme" takes this one by two votes, ending the hopes for "Jecht’s Theme."
We’re moving towards the end of the second round. Next battle…
Rufus’s Theme (Rufus Welcoming Ceremony) – Final Fantasy VII (Barret: "What’s that music? It sure sounds lively." Priscilla: "I heard they’re rehearsing the reception for the new Shinra president." Barret: "Rufus!? I gotta pay my respects.")
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Penelo’s Theme – Final Fantasy XII (Penelo: "So then you wouldn???t mind if I, say, tagged along, would you?" Vaan: "Huh?" Penelo: "Oh, don???t worry. Migelo???s busy with preparations for the fete up at the palace. Why, I???m free for the whole day. Well? Let???s get going!" Vaan: "Hmm?" Penelo: "Hey, Vaan. Let me give you these before we go. There are all sorts of monsters out there, so you can never be too careful! So far you???ve been traveling by yourself, but now that I???m here we can travel as a party…")
"Penelo’s Theme" just lost in the first round over at the XII Rumble. Still, it made it to the second round here — does it have a shot to go further? Cast your votes!
Wins hands down
Rufus’s Theme
Yeah, I feel bad. . .
but that didn’t stop me from voting against it.
Only because of the lyrics (the soldiers singing in the locker room – remember?)
Not if I put it out of its misery by ending the battle by blowout…
(the soldiers singing in the locker room – remember?)
๐ Fondly.
Rufus Welcoming Ceremony – 11
Penelo’s Theme – 0
Two battles left in the current round. Next up…
Terra – Final Fantasy VI (Terra: "A man said my memory would come back…" Locke: Give it time. You’re safe with me! I give you my word!" Terra: "???" Locke: "I won’t leave you until your memory returns!! By the way, this
secret entrance might be useful some day. Don’t forget about it" Guard: "Eh? …… Who might you be? Locke: "This is the pits. We’d better hightail it southward, to Figaro.")
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Amarant/Salamander’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: (I’ll tell you one thing… The truly mighty ones don’t flaunt their power. How can I describe it to you? The sly eagle hides its claws.) Amarant: "Hmph…" Zidane: (I’m outta here! Buh-bye!) Guard: "W-We’ve got you now!" Amarant: "…Yeah, right." Guard 2: "H-Hey!" Guard: "Don’t run away!")
Gatta’ love this theme
Amarant’s Theme is my choice though.
Terra takes my vote with ease here.
Terra – 12
Amarant’s Theme – 2
"Amarant’s Theme" manages a couple of votes from people who just aren’t feeling the "Terra" love. But, on the whole, "Terra" is by far the more popular tune and moves on to the Quarter Finals. And speaking of those, there’s just one battle left before the start of those, and here it is:
Yuffie’s Theme (Descendant of the Shinobi) – Final Fantasy VII (Yuffie: "You turned Wutai into a cheesy resort town peddling to tourists… How dare you!? Da-chao Statue and Leviathan are ashamed!!" Godo: "…" Shake: "She IS a kid." Yuffie: "Wh, what did you say…!?" Godo: "Yuffie!! Forgive me… It’s all my fault…" Gorky: "What are you saying, Lord Godo!" Godo: "Losing the war…turning Wutai into this. It was all my fault…" Chekhov: "Lord Godo!" Godo: "Silence!! Yuffie…… I am the same now as I was before when I wanted the war. But, after I lost the war, I began to think… Is strength, only for defeating the enemy? …or just something to show-off to others…? Might begets might. That’s the same way as the Shinra…")
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Beatrix’s Theme (Rose of May / Loss of Me) – Final Fantasy IX (Baku: "Still alive, eh?" Beatrix: "You are…Baku?" Baku: "Yup, I’m the man who abducted yer princess!" Beatrix: "Let us forget about that. It happened a long time ago…" Baku: "You got a big heart, unlike that knucklehead, Steiner. No wonder the women are runnin’ the show here. Gwahahaha!")
This could be a big one. I’d say if there’s any main difference, it’s that "Descendant of the Shinobi" feels more joyful and lively to me. But both of these are recognized as being very good. ("Yuffie’s Theme" made it onto Uematsu’s Final Fantasy Songbook album as a vocal tune.) Cast your votes!
Beatrix’s Theme
Descendant of the Shinobi – 7
Rose of May – 8
What a battle. After pulling out to a very slight early lead, the piece known as "Yuffie’s Theme" was unable to recover. So the one of Beatrix is the one that moves on.
Al right, we’ve had some great battles in this edition and they could be getting even more intense as we move on to the next round, the Quarter Finals. Here they are:
Kefka – Final Fantasy VI
Terra – Final Fantasy VI
Rufus’s Theme (Rufus Welcoming Ceremony) – Final Fantasy VII
Seto’s Theme (The Great Warrior Seto) – Final Fantasy VII
Ultimecia/Artimesia’s Theme (Succession of Witches) – Final Fantasy VIII
Beatrix’s Theme (Rose of May / Loss of Me) – Final Fantasy IX
Kuja’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Steiner’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX
As usual, the list above is for reference, but you can check the updated results in the first post of the thread if you need.
First battle of the Quarter Finals, then…
Terra – Final Fantasy VI (Terra: "Look, why are you helping me? Is it because of my… abilities? Edgar: "I’ll give you three reasons: First of all, your beauty has captivated me! Second… I’m dying to know if I’m your type… I guess your… abilities… would be a distant 3rd." Terra: "……? What’s with you, anyway? Edgar: "Guess my technique’s getting a bit rusty…" Terra: "Hmmm… I suppose a normal girl would have found him dashing. But I’m hardly… normal…")
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Steiner’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX (Marcus: "I can’t believe I got dragged into this." Steiner: "No one asked you to meddle in our affairs!" Marcus: "It’s pretty sad, gettin’ backstabbed by your own queen." Steiner: "This is all some kind of mistake! I know the queen! She would never betray me!" Marcus: "Wishful thinking! Who knows what she’s gonna do to the princess…" Steiner: "…… I must save the princess at all costs!")
"Terra" has been something of a steamroller, but will it meet its match at the hands of the rather comic "Steiner’s Theme?" Or will this tune just be another that is steamrolled? Cast your votes!
Looks like this is going to be a fairly one-sided battle…
Terra – 9
Steiner’s Theme – 1
"Steiner’s Theme" only managed one vote. That will not, of course, be enough to get it into the semi-finals. "Terra" earns that spot.
Next battle…
Seto’s Theme (The Great Warrior Seto) – Final Fantasy VII (Bugenhagen: "This warrior went through the cave all alone. Fighting attackers one after another…" Red XIII: "Grandpa…….. That warrior…." Bugenhagen: "Ho Ho Hoooo… We’re almost there." )
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Beatrix’s Theme (Rose of May / Loss of Me) – Final Fantasy IX (Beatrix: "…Citizens of Burmecia, please forgive me." Freya: "It is too late to seek forgiveness! …But you can still save Dagger." Zidane: "Freya…" Freya: "I tell you this because I acknowledge your powers. Help your princess." Beatrix: "I don’t know if I can… …but I will give it a try. I hope this will work.")
Beatrix’s Theme only just scraped by last time. Will it win now, or is this it for it? Cast your votes!
How did Seto’s theme even make it this far eh
Because Beatrix wins every freaking rumble she participates in, and it’s starting to get slightly annoying.
Because Beatrix wins every freaking rumble she participates in, and it’s starting to get slightly annoying.
I dont even like Seto’s theme, but yeah.
I totally agree with Ceidwad – Beatrix’s Theme’s really annoying me now.
The Great Warrior Seto – 8
Rose of May – 5
The Theme of Seto rides a backlash against Beatrix’s Theme to take a spot in the semi-finals. And so we bid goodbye to Beatrix for now, but we’ll be seeing more of Seto later.
Two battles left in the quarter-finals. First of them is…
Kefka – Final Fantasy VI (Kefka: "Run! Run! Or you’ll be well done! YES!!!!! Poor old…… Oh well, what a worthless excuse for an Emperor!! Gestahl: "There’ll be no one to worship us…" Celes: "Snap out of it, Kefka!")
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Kuja’s Theme – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "Kuja! What are you plotting?" Kuja: "I am done with you!" Vivi: "W-Wait a minute!" Zidane: "Vivi! Look out!" Kuja: "Don’t worry, I hear these twins put on quite a good show. Of course, they’re really not twins at all…")
Two great villains, but only one’s theme is going to make it into the semi-finals. Which one will that be? Cast your votes!
Kuja’s Theme – 6
6 votes just not enough to win it. It’s "Kefka" for the semi-finals.
And now, the last battle of the quarter finals:
Rufus’s Theme (Rufus Welcoming Ceremony) – Final Fantasy VII (Heidegger: "The long range airship is still being prepared. It should be ready in about three more days. Gya haa haa!" Rufus: "Even the Air Force’s Gelnika?" Heidegger: "…..Gya haa haa!" Rufus: "Stop that stupid horse laugh. Things are different than when father was in charge." Heidegger: "Gya…")
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Ultimecia/Artimesia’s Theme (Succession of Witches) – Final Fantasy VIII (Ultimecia: (as Edea) "So the time has come. You’re the legendary SeeD destined to face me?" Squall: (What is she talking about?) Ultimecia: "I must say that I am impressed. …An impressive nuisance. Your life ends here, SeeD.")
voting for Rufus’ Theme since it needs some backup.
Rufus Welcoming Ceremony – 9
Succession of Witches – 12
Wow. Best turnout in quite a while. And excellent battle too. It was a close one, but "Rufus Welcoming Ceremony" never quite gained the ground it needed. So the one we’ve dubbed Ultimecia’s Theme, "Succession of Witches" earns a spot in the semi-finals. Let’s take a look at what we have left for those…
Kefka – Final Fantasy VI
Terra – Final Fantasy VI
Seto’s Theme (The Great Warrior Seto) – Final Fantasy VII
Ultimecia/Artimesia’s Theme (Succession of Witches) – Final Fantasy VIII
So it looks like we’ve got two for VI, one from VII and one from VIII. Surprising, nothing left from IX this time around. Well, it’s time for the first battle of the semi-finals…
Kefka – Final Fantasy VI (Kefka: "Grrr! How DARE they put me in a place like this! I don’t believe this! … … What a bore." … … … Gestahl: "As you know, Kefka’s in jail for his war crimes. What shall we do with him?" Player: "Leave him in jail…" Gestahl: "Hmm… Well, let’s let him stew in his cell for a while. Then we’ll decide what to do. I truly apologize about the poisoning of Doma. No one dreamed Kefka would use poison." Player: "That was inexcusable." Gestahl: "I’m so terribly sorry! Kefka’s being severely punished, and we’re cleaning up the poison.")
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Seto’s Theme (The Great Warrior Seto) – Final Fantasy (Red XIII: "But when I remember my father, my heart is full of anger…" Bugenhagen: "…You really can’t forgive your father…?" Red XIII: "Of course. He… left mother for dead. When the Gi tribe attacked, he ran off by himself, leaving mother and the people of the Canyon!" Bugenhagen: "…Come, Nanaki. There’s something you should see." )
It’s slightly better than Kefka, though really, if ‘Terra’ doesn’t win I’ll be disappointed.
Seto’s Theme – 5
"Kefka" seemed to be the favored choice there and won by several votes, though "Seto’s Theme" did well to make it this far and put up a good battle.
Now, the second semi-final battle:
Terra – Final Fantasy VI (Ramuh: "I sensed that Terra was in trouble. My magic… summoned her here. Party: "Terra’s an…Esper?" Ramuh: "No, she’s actually quite different." Party: "Terra looks like she’s in pain." Ramuh: "Her very existence strikes fear into her own heart." Party: "How can we help her?" Ramuh: "When she accepts this aspect of herself, I think she’ll be alright.")
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Ultimecia/Artimesia’s Theme (Succession of Witches) – Final Fantasy VIII (Ultimecia: "…SeeD… SeeD……SeeD…… SeeD, SeeD, SeeD! Kurse all SeeDs. Swarming like lokusts akross generations. You disgust me.")
Terra – 9
Succession of Witches – 1
So we do indeed have an all-VI final. But which will it be? "Terra" seems to be the favored choice, but I wouldn’t consider the madness of "Kefka" out without a chance. It’s all down to this final battle…
Kefka – Final Fantasy VI (Kefka: "Imagine! Thinking you could defeat ME!! This is rich! Mwa, ha, ha! Now, my little Magicite pretties…… come, and help me build the magical empire of ‘Kefka’! X-Zone! G’haw, haw…… Ooh! They’re warm to the touch! What treasures! This is ridiculous! I had no idea you were such wimps! Time to put a stop to all this. Phew… I think I have plenty of Magicite for the time being… that is, until I make my way through your precious sealed gate!! I don’t believe this!")
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Terra – Final Fantasy VI ("I’ll be back. I promise! Till then…you behave! Thank you… You helped me to understand a part of myself. Now I must go to war. We must all believe we have a future. We must fight for those who aren’t even born yet!")
I want to say Terra Branford, but my vote goes to Kefka
Voting for Terra.
Kefka – 9
Terra – 6
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An upset! I thought "Terra" had it, but there you go. A surge of support for "Kefka," which definitely seemed like an underdog, wins this one. So close, too. Just a couple of votes thrown the other way and "Terra" coulda had it.
Stay tuned for the next edition, probably starting tomorrow evening, most likely. I’ll have something ready, I have some thoughts I’ve been tossing around…
Rinoa: "Fine…I guess I’ll have to bug you for the rest of the night. And I’m gonna keep chanting ‘concert, concert, concert’ and drive you nuts. Is that what you want?" – Final Fantasy VIII
As always, if there’s not much by the way of nominations, I’ll just fill in the gaps as best I can.
I would nominate for the sayings, it’s just that I haven’t memorized any sayings and I wouldn’t know where to find the text for the games.
I do like the idea of bosses there… especially since my X-2 one is about to end.
EDIT: I actually have another idea that you can save for later, but it can be kinda cute, I’d totally do it at some point if I were running the one in this forum: Rumble champions rumble. I’d imagine there have been at least 16 rumbles buried in the archives somewhere, take the winners from all of them and set them up! Of course it would seem kinda crazy comparing bosses to FMVs to weapons to characters to pieces of music and what not "i.e. what do you like better, this boss or this song", but it could work! After all they were all champions…
That’s actually not a bad idea. I’ll keep that in mind for later on.
Re: As for your second idea, you might be interested in this here (Thread 14702). Though I’m not sure your specific idea was ever done within that, so it’s definitely something to consider to. All right, it’s go time…
Gilgamesh – Final Fantasy V
Atomos – Final Fantasy V
Phantom Train – Final Fantasy VI
Kefka (Narshe encounter) – Final Fantasy VI
Atma Weapon – Final Fantasy VI
Gigantos – Final Fantasy VI
Rufus + Dark Nation – Final Fantasy VII
Materia Keeper – Final Fantasy VII
Demon Gate – Final Fantasy VII
Schizo – Final Fantasy VII
Carry Armor – Final Fantasy VII
Hojo – Final Fantasy VII
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII
Fujin and Raijin – Final Fantasy VIII
Sorceress Edea (G-Garden encounter) – Final Fantasy VIII
Adel – Final Fantasy VIII
Gizamaluke – Final Fantasy IX
Beatrix – Final Fantasy IX
Ark – Final Fantasy IX
Meltigemini – Final Fantasy IX
Kuja – Final Fantasy IX
Nova Dragon – Final Fantasy IX
Crawler – Final Fantasy X
Seymour Flux – Final Fantasy X
Evrae – Final Fantasy X
Yunalesca – Final Fantasy X
Spectral Keeper – Final Fantasy X
Leblanc – Final Fantasy X-2
Zalamander – Final Fantasy X-2
Nomination Spot 1
Nomination Spot 2
Nomination Spot 3
Note — The choices included are based heavily on my assessment of the popularity of various games and what I think is most likely to have a chance of winning or would at least be interesting to include. If you don’t see something that you think really should be included, then please use the nomination option to make suggestions. And remember the conditions – no optional bosses/superbosses or final dungeon bosses. And no Ultros because he won before.
First battle…
Schizo – Final Fantasy VII (A two-headed boss that appears in Final Fantasy VII. This boss appears to trouble you on Gaea’s Cliff not long before the part where you enter the North Crater area and the Highwind shows up. Each of the heads acts independent and has different abilities/strengths/weaknesses. One breathes ice and the other breathes fire. The body also has a quake attack. Watch out also because each head has a powerful final attack that it uses once you defeat it. For winning, you get a Dragon Fang.)
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Meltigemini – Final Fantasy IX (Oh, looky. Another two-headed boss! This boss has over 24,000 HP and is actually the combined form of Zorn and Thorn. This boss puts your entire party in Virus status right away its Viral Smoke and then starts using attacks such as Venom Powder, Bio and a physical attack called "Wings." It has some items to steal – Vaccine, Golden Hairpin and Demon’s Vest.)
P.S.: Effective immediately, all battles are three days long until it seems like things have settled down and the Shrine isn’t down so much. I think this is only fair, just in case. Normal blowout conditions still apply and I will also end within the normal two-day period if there are 8 or more votes and the leader is winning by a margin of 3 or more.
also, this is real tricky, but Schizo as he’s one of the very few tough bosses in FFVII.
For nominations, I’d say Ultros. Maybe the opera scene encounter.
for other bosses:
Chupon FFVI
Phunbaba VI
GI Nattaku FFVII
Midgar Zolom FFVII
Garland FFIX
Lani FFIX
For nominations, I’d say Ultros. Maybe the opera scene encounter.
And remember the conditions – no optional bosses/superbosses or final dungeon bosses. And no Ultros because he won before.
EDIT: Can we have XII bosses? If we can I’d like to nominate at least one or two of Dr. Cid, the Demon Wall, Ba’Gamnan (even though the mandatory part is just running), or one of the Pharos bosses.
Hah, unfortunately the only mandatory boss fight in that game that’s remotely interesting is the Demon Wall. All th other interesting ones are optional.
As for nominations, and assuming we are allowed to choose FFXII bosses, I nominate at least one of the Turks’ battles from FFVII (maybe the last one in Midgar, though all the Turks battles except for Reno in Sector 7 can technically be avoided and are therefore ‘optional’) and also the Mandragoras from FFXII.
Also, ‘Leblanc – Final Fantasy X-2’ is fairly vague. Can you be more specific about which encounter that is, as I believe you fight the three Leblanc Syndicate members together at least twice?
Well, I doubt the results of this particular battle could be that epic, but let’s tally them up anyway…
Schizo – 9
Meltigemini – 2
Wow, only two votes for Meltigemini. Didn’t expect that. Might have considered ending this sooner, but sure enough, we had another outage, so I’m glad on the whole that I put the new rule into effect.
Now, for just a bit of business before I start the next battle…
Chupon FFVI
Phunbaba VI
GI Nattaku FFVII
Midgar Zolom FFVII
Garland FFIX
Lani FFIX
Phunbaba and Midgar Zolom are optional. The others are under consideration, though not sure about Gi Nattaku — is there really much point in including a boss that can be knocked off simply by tossing an Elixir at it?
EDIT: Can we have XII bosses? If we can I’d like to nominate at least one or two of Dr. Cid, the Demon Wall, Ba’Gamnan (even though the mandatory part is just running), or one of the Pharos bosses.
Hah, unfortunately the only mandatory boss fight in that game that’s remotely interesting is the Demon Wall. All th other interesting ones are optional.
XII bosses is a great idea. I’ll definitely include at least one.
As for nominations, and assuming we are allowed to choose FFXII bosses, I nominate at least one of the Turks’ battles from FFVII (maybe the last one in Midgar, though all the Turks battles except for Reno in Sector 7 can technically be avoided and are therefore ‘optional’) and also the Mandragoras from FFXII.
Also, ‘Leblanc – Final Fantasy X-2’ is fairly vague. Can you be more specific about which encounter that is, as I believe you fight the three Leblanc Syndicate members together at least twice?
All right, I’ll consider that too. As for Leblanc, I’ll just say the last battle, the one in the Chateau.
All right, the next battle is…
Kefka (Narshe encounter) – Final Fantasy VI (As I mentioned, no final bosses, but if the boss is fightable at some point earlier in the game, then they’re fair game. In FFVI, you can fight Kefka in the World of Balance following a minigame of sorts in Narshe. You have to handle groups of parties to prevent soldiers from breaking through to the top and then it’s go-time with Kefka. Before you can even get through to him, you have to fight The Rider. He’s not overly hard if you’re prepared, but could trouble you up if you’re caught off-guard or definitely if you didn’t prepare properly in making it down the gauntlet. He, naturally, uses a powerful poison attack, as well as physical stuff. Obviously, using equipment that defends against poison stuff can negate his one big advantage.)
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Crawler – Final Fantasy X (A mechanized monster that appears with two Negators. The Negators disable all magic and summoning, so it’s important to get them out of the way first. They can be attacked using Wakka’s ball. Rikku’s "Use" also works. Once the Negators are taken care of, you can start hitting the Crawler with magic and aeon attacks, but it uses a powerful all-target Mana Beam attack that’s on countdown from 3. This boss can also counter with Assault and attack with Gatling Gun.)
btw about GI Nattak- I guess you’re right Agent0042 , so he’s the same like FFIX Soul Cage ๐
Kefka – 10
Crawler – 1
Kefka (as fought in Narshe) makes his way to the next round and the Crawler crawls outta here.
Next up, let’s do:
Rufus + Dark Nation – Final Fantasy VII (You face this battle with Cloud only at the top of the Shinra building. Of course, no matter what you do, the fact remains that once you deal enough damage, Rufus will hitch a helicopter ride and Cloud will be left to say "I couldn’t finish ’em, this is gonna get complicated." In any case, you generally want to kill off the Dark Nation first because it supports Rufus by casting Barrier and MBarrier magic. Once you’ve taken care of that, you can turn your attention to Rufus, but you have to watch out for his fast Shotgun attacks. Rufus doesn’t have that much HP, so it should probably be a quick battle, but you may need to keep an eye on Cloud’s HP just in case Rufus manages to get some fast attacks in.)
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Ark – Final Fantasy IX (This battle takes place in Oeilvert, so magic’s out. As Kuja said, it’s the type of place that he really doesn’t like — it has an anti-magic field. He wants you to steal the Gulug Stone, but you have to get past this boss first. Ark uses several dangerous attacks, including Photo [reduces a single character’s HP to 1], Whirlwind [damage on all characters], Propeller Wind [confuse status] and Boomerang [another attack that damages everyone]. Freya’s Reis’s Wind can help here. Oh, and this boss has an awesome item to steal, the Holy Lance, but it can take a long time. Oh, and winning this battle gets you a Pumice Piece, which is half the key to unlocking the summon that bears this bosses’ name.)
Ark – 7
Rufus + Dark Nation – 3
Rufus and his panther pal only manage to muster three votes.
Next up…
Atomos – Final Fantasy V (This "sucker" as I called him before over at the FFV Rumble, which is currently doing bosses, guards the top of the Barrier Tower in this game. He just won the second round over there by blowout. He KOs a comet using a Comet spell and then drags them towards a wormhole.
He also uses Demi, Quarter and Slow2. He can be very tough, although there are a few cheap tricks that can be used to defeat him.)
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Adel – Final Fantasy VIII (A lot of people have trouble with this encounter, although if you prepare your party properly, it’s not too tough. Actually, the main crutch that stymies some people with this battle is that Rinoa is strapped to her and so any spells that affect all targets will also hit Rinoa. Additionally, she absorbs HP every so often from Rinoa. Standard tactics involve casting Regen on Rinoa and then healing her every so often if still needed. In fact, you can draw the Regen spell from Rinoa herself and then just use "Cast." Adel has Ultima, but it really isn’t all that much, and her HP maxes at a little over 50,000. You can Mug a Soul of Samantha from Adel, in fact, if Rinoa’s HP is still high and you’re willing to "risk it," you can Mug eight Megalixir from her. Other than this, Adel will sometimes use Meteor, but as long as your party is even halfway decent, you can just heal them and should be okay.)
Adel – 5
Not exactly a huge crowd voting this time– anyways, Adel wins that one by just one vote.
Atma Weapon – Final Fantasy VI (Appears at the end of the Floating Island. Has 24,000 HP. This Weapon uses a powerful Flare attack and is also capable of casting a dangerous Quake attack. He has a compliment of other powerful magic as well, and a special battle theme.)
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Evrae – Final Fantasy X (This "red carpet with teeth" has 32,000 HP and has a reputation as being a very tough boss. When attacking from a distance, Cid can use the airship to launch up to three sets of Guided Missile attacks, which is good, because you’ll probably need all the help you can get. This boss has no elemental weaknesses, and is immuine to most statuses, though can be affected by Power Break. Uses attacks including Photon Spray, Swooping Scythe and Stone Breath. However, his big damage-dealer is Poison Breath, which he will use after inhaling. Not only that, but after a certain point, he uses Haste on himself and starts countering all attacks with Swooping Scythe.)
P.S.: Last chance for nominations. After this battle, I start mixing them in. Also, the Shrine seems to have stabilized, so unless it goes down again, two days for voting will be resumed after this battle.
Evrae was more of a challenge for me when I first played, and not to mention cool setting.
Also sick of every winner being something from VI…
Atma Weapon – 5
Evrae – 4
Atma Weapon hangs on and wins by one vote, though not a huge amount of voting there. I think I’ll go just one more before I start mixing in the nominations. Here’s the next battle:
Fujin and Raijin – Final Fantasy VIII (You first face off against your former allies [of sorts] in Balamb. Actually, you face Raijin alone first, but after you defeat him, he gets a major second wind and comes in to join Fujin to fight you. Raijin uses a strong physical attack with his large rod, but Fujin’s a bigger threat to watch out for, with Tornado magic and the possibility to use Sai, which can knock a character’s HP down to 1. They show up again later in Lunatic Pandora, generally using the same bag of tricks, except this time Raijin is stronger and has more HP, whereas Fujin mostly just uses Zan.)
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Nova Dragon – Final Fantasy IX (A dragon that shows up to trouble you before you can enter Memoria. Has over 50,000 and uses the all target Aerial Slash attack, the even more dangerous all-target Shockwave and a still stronger Tidal Wave attack. As if that isn’t enough, he can sometimes counter attacks, though if you’re lucky, he might sometimes use Psychokinesis, which damages only one character. One strategy is to try to put him to sleep using Quina’s "Night" blue magic, but barring that, it’s best to be well-prepared, particularly if you want to steal its Dragon Wrist or Grand Armor.)
I think I’ll keep it at three days for now (and I should be sticking to that.)
Nova Dragon – 5
Fujin and Raijin slightly prove slightly more popular than Nova Dragon. They earn a ticket to the second round. Next up…
Materia Keeper – Final Fantasy VII (A boss that troubles on Mt. Nibel. This boss is interesting in that basically it directly blocks your path. You can see it and so basically whenever you’re ready, you can choose to initiate the fight. It’s called the "Materia Keeper" because it is, in fact, guarding a materia– you can pick up the Counter Attack materia once you beat it. It can cure itself with Cure2 and uses attacks including Hell Combo [a vicious physical attack] and the Enemy Skill called "Trine"– your first chance to learn this one. If you’re not well-prepared, you can sometimes still gain an advantage on it by using attacks that may deal a paralysis status to it, such as Choco/Mog or Cloud’s Cross-slash limit. You win a Jem Ring for beating it– oh, and it absorbs all fire-based attacks.)
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Dr. Cid – Final Fantasy XII (He actually appears to trouble you twice, so let’s cover them both. The first time around is in the Draklor Laboratory. He is protected by four Rooks which you have to take care of before you can even really go at him. He uses gun attacks and also can hit with a special called "S-27 Tokamak." He uses Haste and can also at one point put a Paling around himself. Later on you fight him at the top of the Pharos Lighthouse. He summons Famfrit in this battle once you wear away a fair portion of his HP. At that point, he’s invincible, so you have to deal with Famfrit first. He also uses S-85 Cyclotrone" and "Gatling Gun" in this battle. Once you finally take him down, you gain the esper he used against you.)
Dr. Cid – 4
A strong underdog he was– pretty close result on the whole.
Next up:
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII (They appear twice to trouble you. They bear the look of your standard Galbadian major and combat soldier and for the most part fight like them too. The first time you face them, they’re really just a warm-up act for Elvoret. You later face them in the Galbadian underground prison– Biggs is pissed because he’s been demoted to lieutenant– but if you’re even anywhere near halfway decent, there’s nothing much they can do to you. Generally comic opponents.)
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Zalamander – Final Fantasy X-2 (A massive lizard that takes up residence within a maze in the Thunder Plains. Hash to be defeated before Yuna can hold her conshert. Its attacks include a fiery breath, a massive tail smash and swiping attacks. Like other such bosses that share the general species-type of wandering monsters, it can go into Oversoul, the main difficulty with that being that its attacks become a lot less predictable and it also uses an attack called Crushing Tail that halves HP.)
Biggs and Wedge – 12
Zalamander – 1
Despite Biggs and Wedge being basically comic bosses, Zalamander only manages to scrape up one vote. So it’s Biggs and Wedge on to Round 2.
As for us, we continue on with:
Phantom Train – Final Fantasy VI (Currently battling over in the VI Rumble as a location. Here, we consider it as a boss. As you fight it, it’s essentially chasing you. You face it using a fairly strong physical attack party– Sabin, Cyan and Shadow [if you still have him around.] Once you defeat it, you can finally disembark from the train– something which most generally aren’t lucky enough to do. All in all, it’s not necessarily huge tough fight, though it is pretty plot-significant. Oh, and major weak point– it’s undead, so you can finish it using Phoenix Down, if that’s your cup of tea.)
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Yunalesca – Final Fantasy X (Deciding that summoners shall no longer be sacrificed for the Final Aeon, the party takes her on. She actually has three forms and can prove very tough. The main thing to watch out for is her final form’s Mega Death– which will kill your whole party unless you either have an aeon summoned at the time she goes to third form, or one or more of your party are in Zombie status. Other than that, she troubles you with all sorts of stuff, including dangerous counter-attacks, Hellbiter to turn your party into Zombies [and then casting Cura and Regen on Zombied characters to damage them] and a Mind Blast attack that causes status ailments. Oh, and have I mentioned she’s one scary looking boss, especially in her latter forms?)
She is amazing, I like her character and the design of all her three forms and also the voice they gave her. Not to mention that she puts up one hell of a fight!
Lets face it. All you guys would. And she had three forms. It was at her that i gave up on my first X play-through. But when i did it again i raped owned her.
Phantom Train – 1
Yunalesca – 9
I guess being able to be finished off by a Phoenix Down wasn’t good for Phantom Train as far as its chances in this. If I had realized that fact at the time I drew up the list of entrants, it probably wouldn’t have been included at all, but ah well. Moving right along, then…
Gilgamesh – Final Fantasy V (Somewhat of a comic boss, though he can present something of a challenge during the battle with on the Big Bridge in particular. He shows up a few times throughout the game as ExDeath’s crony. During one particularly amusing point, he steals a sword he thinks is Excalibur but is actually Excalipoor and so all his attacks are total crap. He just won the bosses edition over in the V Rumble.)
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Gizamaluke – Final Fantasy IX (The boss you fight in the Grotto named after him. He uses Silent Voice to silence magic cast against him. He also uses Crash for strong physical damage and Water for powerful magic damage. He’s also very fast, but you can affect Slow status on him. He has some interesting stuff to steal, such as the Magus Hat and Ice Staff. Strangely, another way to gain an advantage over this boss is to toss a tent at him. If you’re lucky, it’ll cause Blind and Silence status on him.)
Gilgamesh – 6
Kinda close there, but Gilgamesh wins this one by a couple votes. Next up…
Carry Armor – Final Fantasy VII (Reno and Rude say they don’t have time to fight you themselves when you come upon them at the Junon Underwater Reactor, so they summon this mechanized menace to fight you instead. It actually comes in three parts– Carry Armor with 24,000 HP and right and left arms that each have 10,000 HP. The arms can counterattack attacks and they can even grab a character, putting that character out of the battle temporarily. Also, you have to watch out for Lapis Laser, which causes major damage on all your characters. It can be a dangerous boss, though if you’ve spent some time building up your characters [and with the Highwind, you have access to any of a number of sidequests before facing this boss] it could be fairly easy.)
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Mandragoras – Final Fantasy XII (These are sort of unofficial marks and they can be fought as regular enemies later, but in any case, you have to fight them at one point, so they are bosses of a sort. There are five of them– Onion Queen, Topstalk, Alarune King, Pumpkin Star and Mandragora Prince. In all, they have over 40,000 HP and just by sheer numbers, they can really trouble your party. They like to run around a lot, making them difficult to attack as an entire group. Each has a different element and each also can zap your characters with status ailments. Other than that, the main thing to watch out for is their strong physical attacks.)
Carry Armor – 0
Mandragoras – 6
A somewhat surprising knockout victory for Mandragoras. No love at all for the Carry Armor.
Next up…
Beatrix – Final Fantasy IX (She appears to fight your party three times before she has her change of heart. In each battle, she uses a number of powerful attacks, such as Shock and Thunder Strike. Finally, when either time runs out or you whittle down her HP, she will use either Stock Break or Climhazzard to reduce your party’s HP to 1.)
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Spectral Keeper – Final Fantasy X (This boss has 52,000 HP and shows up to take on your party once you solve the puzzle in the Zanarkand Ruins. You are on a series of platforms and it uses Glyph Mines to try to KO your party, but you have the Move command if a platform is mined. You can use aeons, but they won’t last long because it can use Glyph Mine to finish them off and they can’t move. Besides that, he uses Berserk Tail, which causes around 1,000 damage and puts a character in Berserk. This is dangerous, because he has a very powerful counterattack that can potentially hit your entire party depending upon where they are standing. That, and that a berserked character can’t move to another circle. So, in large part, this is a battle of tactics.)
Spectral Keeper – 1
Spectral Keeper only manages to scrape up one vote, so it’s Beatrix on to the next round.
Getting pretty close to that next round. Next up…
Demon Gate – Final Fantasy VII (This boss shows up as you’re trying to escape the Temple of the Ancients. You’re required to have Aeris/th for this battle since she’s required for the visit to the Temple and she could be a liability of you haven’t really used her character much. Of course, her Ultimate Weapon is found within the Temple. In any case, Demon Gate has 10,000 HP. He has a powerful physical attack that deals about 800 damage. What you really have to watch out for though, are Cave In and Demon Rush, which hit the entire party for powerful damage. Of course, heavy damage is good if you can survive it, as it fills up your limit bars. You can also use the Bahamut summon you found a little earlier to deal some powerful damage to start things off. You win a Gigas Armlet for beating this boss.)
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Sorceress Edea (G-Garden Encounter) (You first fight her at the end of disc 1, but we’ll just consider the Galbadia Garden encounter here, the one that brings Disc 2 to a close. You have to get through Seifer first to face her, but having already been defeated earlier, he’s so weak that he’s barely worth thinking about. Edea can have pretty high HP depending on your party’s levels, though it maxes at 16,000. She uses some powerful magic this time around, but her best spell is Maelstrom. It hits for about 2/3 HP, but it’s not a gravity based spell, so you get hit with it twice and you’re done. You want to be sure to draw Alexander from her, as it’s needed for another GF. Oh, and here’s something interesting– apparently you can lose this battle and the game will still continue, though you miss out on the AP for it.)
Demon Gate – 2
Sorceress Edea -9
Demon Gate gets a couple of votes, but Edea is far and away the favored choice here. She moves onwards to the second round. And congrats to Final Fantasy VIII, which with this victory scores a clean sweep with all four of its bosses moving on the second round.
Let’s move onwards ourselves to this battle…
Kuja – Final Fantasy IX (Considering only the battle against him at the end of Disc 3. As far as battles go, this one isn’t necessarily too rough. The main thing to watch out for is being worn down after the previous battles with the Silver Dragon and Garland. You might also want to have Zidane steal his items, which include Caribini Mail and Light Robes. According to the Boss FAQ at GameFAQs, Kuja actually only uses two attacks– Thundaga and Demi. It’s just enough to make him a trifle dangerous, but really, this battle is just a lure to get you to attack him such that he builds up enough of a rage to go into Trance, as evidenced by the comments he makes throughout the battle. Once he Trances, he uses Ultima, an admittedly stunning move that knocks your entire party flat.)
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Lani – Final Fantasy IX (IX vs. IX- why not? Lani shows up in Fossil Roo, looking to seize Dagger/Garnet for Queen Brahne, following the party’s grand escape from Alexandria. In this case, Lani actually likes to focus on attacking Dagger. She swings a huge axe, but she’s also a fairly decent magic user, using Aera, Water and general second-level elemental magics. She has a Coral Sword and a Gladius to steal.)
she was a more troublesome boss than Kuja
she was a more troublesome boss than Kuja
Kuja – 5
Lani – 5
It looks like we have a tie. In that case, we will go to coin-toss. And it comes up… Kuja.
Next up…
Hojo – Final Fantasy VII (He actually has three different forms, but since you face them all in succession, we’re going to consider them all together. Got that? Good. His first form is nothing to write home about, but he does have a couple of monsters with him to try to trouble you up. The latter forms are mainly about troubling you with abnormal statuses and strong physical attacks.)
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Seymour Flux (Seymour is another boss that troubles you with a number of forms. We’ve got that contrast thing going here though in that Seymour appears at various points throughout the game, rather than in several forms in one go. For this battle, we’ll just consider one of those forms– Seymour Flux. He appears as you’re climbing Mt. Gagazet and is supported by Mortiorchis. Seymour uses Banish on any aeons you summon, so they’re only good for one turn before he says "Death awaits you!" and finishes them off. This form of Seymour uses Lance of Atrophy, which can cause Zombie status and then uses Full-Life, which will KO the character if they’re in Zombie status. He likes to Dispel characters’ beneficial statuses and Mortiorchis can hit with a powerful physical attack called Cross-Cleave. Also, past a certain point, Mortiorchis goes into "Auto-Attack Mode" and this is the lead up to a spectacular attack called Total Annihilation which hits multiple times and can basically well, totally annihilate all but the most amazingly souped-up party.)
Seymour Flux just annoyed me >.<
Seymour Flux – 1
Hojo it is then, by a hefty margin. I didn’t realize Seymour Flux had only one vote.
Final battle of the first round!
Flame Eater (This is a substitution! Gigantos had this slot, but I realized that Gigantos is actually an optional boss. As I had said before that I would not be including optional bosses in this, it wouldn’t do to have him, having realized this. So this is the substitution. You fight Flame Eater in the house in Thamasa after running through a gauntlet of fire. Flame Eater is, of course, weak against ice-based attacks. Still, your party consists of only Strago, Locke and Terra, so you may have to strategize some, particularly if your magic isn’t up to snuff.)
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Leblanc – Final Fantasy X-2 (For this battle, considering only the final encounter with her in her Chateau. She has a spell called "Not-So-Mighty Guard" but don’t be fooled– it places her, Ormi and Logos under Shell, Protect and Regen and therefore is definitely of benefit to them. Her support abilities also include White Wind, Osmose and the infamous "Love Tap" to haste Ormi or Logos. Her attack types include grenades with status effects as well as a Mach Fan that hits and delays your party. Finally, she can combine with the other two for the No Love Lost attack, their best special.)
Flame Eater – 1
Leblanc – 7
An easy victory for Leblanc over FFVI’s Flame Eater.
The first round had its surprises, but I’d say on the whole weeded out a lot of the weaker entrants. So I’m looking forward to good battles for the second round. Let’s see what’s left…
Gilgamesh – Final Fantasy V
Kefka (Narshe encounter) – Final Fantasy VI
Atma Weapon – Final Fantasy VI
Materia Keeper – Final Fantasy VII
Schizo – Final Fantasy VII
Hojo – Final Fantasy VII
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII
Fujin and Raijin – Final Fantasy VIII
Sorceress Edea (G-Garden encounter) – Final Fantasy VIII
Adel – Final Fantasy VIII
Beatrix – Final Fantasy IX
Ark – Final Fantasy IX
Kuja – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2
Yunalesca – Final Fantasy X
Leblanc (Chateau encounter) – Final Fantasy X-2
Mandragoras – Final Fantasy XII
First battle of the second round:
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII (Biggs: "…But I hope you appreciate our position. Hey, it’s a dog eat do…" Wedge: "Uh, they are fully armed, sir…" Biggs: "W-WHAT!? H-Ho-How…? Ahh, hell with it! Let’s go, Wedge! … I was demoted because of you! … I’m only a lieutenant now! …I’ll get my revenge!")
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Yunalesca – Final Fantasy X (Mika: "Why are you here? You must go and defeat Sin, quickly! You have obtained the Final Aeon from Yunalesca, have you not?" Tidus: "Well, we did meet her." Yuna: "We fought and defeated her." Mika: "What!" Auron: "Summoners and guardians will be sacrificed for the Final Summoning no more!")
Biggs and Wedge were hilarious as comic bosses, which no doubt accounts for their presence here in the second round. But are they a match for the three-form epic Yunalesca battle? Cast your votes!
Biggs and Wedge – 8
Yunalesca – 6
Following an early lead for Yunalesca, the comic pairing of Biggs and Wedge continue to the quarter-finals. Next we have…
Kefka (Narshe encounter) – Final Fantasy VI (Kefka: "Exterminate everyone! Soldier: "But Narshe is neutral…" Kefka: "Idiot!! Read my lips!! Dispose of any who oppose us! March!" Elder: "We really have no choice. Let’s make ready for war!")
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Ark – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "!!! So this is what Kuja was harping about. Time to head back. Whoa! …? Something’s coming!")
Kefka (Narshe encounter) – 11
Ark – 0
After making it to the second round, Ark can’t manage even a single vote for for a quarter-final spot. So we say goodbye to it.
Next up…
Schizo – Final Fantasy VII (Cloud: "We’ll secure the route. You come up later. … Ugh……. Errgaahh!!")
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Adel – Final Fantasy VIII (Odine: "First, go to Lunatic Pandora. Ellone’s probably being held captive inside, so rescue her first. Then kill Sorceress Adel before ze awakening process is completed. Now, we’re left with Rinoa as ze only sorceress of this era.")
Two headed monster on an icy cliff in FFVII vs. the final boss of FFVIII’s Disc 3. Cast your votes!
Adeel – 9
A fairly large margin of victory for Adel, who earns a spot in the quarter-finals.
Next up…
Gilgamesh – Final Fantasy V (Gilgamesh: "Hahaha! I’ve take what was inside this box!! … So. Let’s see. This is our fourth time, huh. Makes me kinda happy. By the way. Where’s that jolly old man?" Krile: "… …" Gilgamesh: "I see. … Ok, this is the end of my warm-up. Gilgamesh change!! Excalibur. Let me see your strength! Huh!? What the!? Isn’t it the strongest sword!?")
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Beatrix – Final Fantasy IX (Beatrix: "Never step into this land again. … Your pathetic powers are useless against me." Zidane: "…Hey, wait a minute… You’re the general of this kingdom. As the general of Alexandria, what is your sworn duty!? Isn’t it to protect Dagger–your Princess Garnet? I’m sure you know who’s sitting over there." Beatrix: "It can’t be… Princess… …So, it was true. The queen really did mean to kill her…" Steiner: "WHAT!? No! The queen would never do such a thing!" Beatrix: "Steiner, it is time for you to accept the truth. …My heart is set. All this time, I have been mistaken…")
Yep, these are two strong contenders, but only one will make it the quarter-finals! This should be a very interesting battle. Cast your votes!
Sorry Gilgamesh
Sorry Bea~
Welcome back Allen
nice blow exchange till now
Beatrix – 6
A pretty close battle throughout, but ultimately it’s Gilgamesh who gets the upper-hand in this battle. He proceeds to the quarter-finals, while we bid the valiant General Beatrix adieu.
Next…
Materia Keeper – Final Fantasy VII (Cloud: "Jenova, a calamity from the skies? You mean she wasn’t an Ancient!?" Sephiroth: "…I see. I don’t think you have the right to participate. I will go north past Mt. Nibel. If you wish to find out… then follow…" Cloud: "…Reunion? Calamity from the skies?")
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Mandragoras – Final Fantasy XII ("A terrible menace plagues the Sochen Cave Palace. Calling hale hunters of all ages and races to deal with this scourge upon us. [WARNING] This is not an official bill, and it will not be listed in the Clan Primer.")
Welcome back Allen
Thanks good to be back.
Materia Keeper – 6
Mandragoras – 2
Next up is:
Atma Weapon – Final Fantasy VI ("My name is Atma…… I am pure energy…and as ancient as the cosmos. Feeble creatures, GO!")
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Sorceress Edea (G-Garden encounter) – Final Fantasy VIII (Sorceress Edea: "So the time has come. You’re the legendary SeeD destined to face me?" Squall: (What is she talking about?) Sorceress Edea: "I must say that I am impressed. …An impressive nuisance. Your life ends here, SeeD.")
Ultima Weapon (YES, Ultima. Not Atma lol). Just because Fierce Battle theme.
Adding to the destruction.
Atma Weapon – 2
Sorceress Edea – 12
Sorceress Edea sails through. A somewhat surprising loss for Atma Weapon– I thought it was more popular than that. Anyway, we have two battles left in the second round. Here’s the first of them…
Fujin and Raijin – Final Fantasy VIII (Raijin: "Big sound, this way. It’s probably them, ya know?" Fujin: "THEM? NO, IMPOSSIBLE." Squall: (That voice…) Raijin: "Ahhhhhh! It IS Squall, ya know!?" Fujin: "SHOCK. GOOD. CONVENIENT.")
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Kuja – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "What are you doing here, Kuja!?" Kuja: "That’s not a very nice way to greet your brother." Zidane: "Shut up! You’re not brother of mine!" Kuja: "Oh, such ferocity… Master Garland, he intends to fight Terra." Garland: "Kuja… What are you scheming?" Kuja: "Scheming? Me? Watch me as I defeat these enemies of Terra! Come on, now! You may sleep alongside the souls of Terra. For all eternity!")
Kuja – 9
Closer than some recent battles, though Kuja powered ahead and Fujin and Raijin ended up not having a chance once that happened. All right! Final battle of the second round:
Hojo – Final Fantasy VII (Hojo: "…nonsense? Oh, this? Ha, ha, ha… Sephiroth seems to be counting on the energy. So I’m going to lend him a hand." Cloud: "Why!? Why do that!?" Hojo: "Quit asking me why, you moron. Hmm… actually, you might be cut out to be a scientist.")
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Leblanc – Final Fantasy X-2 (Rikku: "Well? Want another helping of your just desserts?" Paine: "No one’s gonna hear you scream from down here." Leblanc: "W-Wait a second! I’ll let you see what’s in the sphere!" Paine: "Let us?" Leblanc: "Please, the sphere is yours to watch.")
Also, I think, starting with this battle, I’ll be moving back to a schedule of updating about once every two days. Normal blowout conditions still apply, of course.
Hojo – 4
Leblanc – 0
Let’s move straight into the quarter-finals. Here’s what’s left…
Gilgamesh – Final Fantasy V
Kefka (Narshe encounter) – Final Fantasy VI
Materia Keeper – Final Fantasy VII
Hojo – Final Fantasy VII
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII
Sorceress Edea (G-Garden encounter) – Final Fantasy VIII
Adel – Final Fantasy VIII
Kuja – Final Fantasy IX
Interesting… of all of what we started with, we’re down to just a single "monster" boss. All of the rest are human. Also, Final Fantasy VIII seems hugely favored in this one– claiming four of the eight spots. Let’s see if VIII’s good fortune continues with…
Kefka (Narshe encounter) – Final Fantasy VI (Kefka: "Don’t think you’ve won. Aack!! I won’t forget this!")
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Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII (Squall: "What do you think you’re doing!?" Biggs: "Huhhhh? Likewise, MISTER! What do you think you’re doing!?" H-HEY! What happened to all the soldiers down below!? WEDGE! Take care of these twerps!!! W…Wedge? I…ah… Well…ah…I seem to be done here, so I’ll just be on my…")
Kay. Biggs and Wedge it is.
Biggs and Wedge – 3
So despite the extra time, not even close for Biggs and Wedge, really. They get a few votes, but Kefka, as fought in Narshe, moves on to the semi-finals. So long to FFVIII’s comic duo.
Next up…
Materia Keeper – Final Fantasy VII (Tifa: "If the Mako Reactor countinues to suck up the energy, this fountain will dry up too…" Sephiroth: "Materia. When you condense Mako energy, materia is produced. It’s very rare to be able to see materia in its natural state." )
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Sorceress Edea (Ultimecia) (G-Garden encounter) – Final Fantasy VIII (Sorceress Edea: "Worthless child." Squall: (…The [auditorium] is right below.) Seifer: "There’s no way you guys can beat her.")
Materia Keeper is the only non-human boss left in this battle. Will it perish like the others of its kind have in this rumble? Cast your votes!
Sorceress Edea – 6
Seems non-humans just can’t hack it in this edition of the rumble. Sorceress Edea moves on and the last "monster" type of boss is outta here.
Next up:
Gilgamesh – Final Fantasy V (Gilgamesh: "Crap. Alright, for today, you are lucky, I’ll let you go.")
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Kuja – Final Fantasy IX (Kuja: "… H-Ha ha ha… What an interesting lie. You’re telling me that my life will end soon? Ha ha ha… Nice try, Garland, but I won’t fall for your silly tricks… Garland? … Garland!? Answer me!" Garland: "You were created to destroy. You are a mortal…")
And just to keep things clear– in considering Gilgamesh, you’re considering the overall merits of all fights with him. With Kuja, however, you’re only considering the fight at the end of Disc 3, the one that comes after Garland.
Gilgamesh – 8
Kuja – 3
Kuja only scrapes a few votes– Gilgamesh looks strong going into the semi-finals.
Final battle of the quarter-finals…
Hojo – Final Fantasy VII (Cloud: "Magic…… a mysterious power." Sephiroth: "Ha, ha, ha!" Cloud: "Did I say somethin’ funny?" Sephiroth: "A man once told me never to use an unscientific term such as mysterious power! It shouldn’t even be called magic! I still remember how angry he was." Cloud: "Who was that?" Sephiroth: "Hojo of Shinra, Inc. … An inexperienced man assigned to take over the work of a great scientist. He was a walking mass of complexes." … … … … … … … Hojo: "Ha, ha, ha… HA, HA, HA…!! What will Sephiroth think when he finds out that I’m his father? Always looking down on me like that. HA, HA, HA…!!")
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Adel – Final Fantasy VIII (Laguna: "Huh?……Hmm…Okay, fine!" We’ll accept your help. In return, we’ll help you Anti-‘Azel’ movement or whatever." Ward: "……" Kiros: "It’s ‘ADEL’. Start listening more closely, ’cause it’s getting embarrassing… …is what Ward would say. Can’t you see it in his eyes?")
Adel – 4
A surge of sympathy for Hojo leaves these two in a tie position. When that happens in a later round, we have to look to the results of the past rounsd to determine the winner. And we have…
Hojo – 10/11, 4/4
Adel – 5/9, 9/11
Well, I don’t even need to run the calculations. Though he only just barely made it here, Hojo had pretty much universal support when he was up before, even if the number of votes on one particular battle was pretty thin. He goes on to the semi-finals.
Gilgamesh – Final Fantasy V
Kefka (Narshe encounter) – Final Fantasy VI
Hojo – Final Fantasy VII
Sorceress Edea (G-Garden encounter) – Final Fantasy VIII
And how different the layout looks now. FFVIII has gone from dominating this edition to having just one competitor left in it. Will that competitor remain? It’s time to find out in the first battle of the semi-finals…
Kefka (Narshe encounter) – Final Fantasy VI (Arvis: "Banon!" Banon: "Our blood will spill because of you. Emperor Gestahl’s racing to acquire Magitek power. He’s set his sights on the Esper that was found here! The increased use of Magitek power’ll surely lead to global destruction…" Elder: "The War of the Magi… The mythical battle that set mankind back a thousand years. Can this really be happening? People will never learn…")
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Sorceress Edea (G-Garden encounter) – Final Fantasy VIII (Irvine: "The sorceress should be here somewhere." Squall: "(No turning back now…) Forget about the past! She’s our enemy now! Don’t think twice for a second. There’s no way we can fight her like that. I, for one, can’t. She chose to fight and became our enemy. We chose to fight back. We have no choice. At least I’d like to think so. (Seems like I’m the only one confused…) We’ve come this far. I guess there’s no need for me to say anything.")
Sorceress Edea – 8
And so the madness of Kefka comes to an end for this edition. Which I guess will be all right with him, anyway, since his theme won the last edition of the rumble. (That is, if anything is ever "all right" to a maniacal madman, other than total domination.)
Let’s find out who will be joining Edea in the final…
Gilgamesh – Final Fantasy V (Gilgamesh: "Lenna, never forget your love for animals." Lenna: "…" Gilgamesh: "Butz, someday I’d like to fight you one-on-one! You were such good friends." Necrophobia: "Gilgamesh, DIE!" Gilgamesh: "That’s MY line.")
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Hojo – Final Fantasy VII (Tifa: "Look, look at that!" Cloud: "Hm…? That girl in the bikini……? Not a bad view…." Tifa: "What’re you looking at? That man over there. That’s Hojo from Shinra. Get outta here. Go talk to him!" … … … … … … … … … … Aeris/th: "Professor Hojo…. Is Jenova an Ancient? Is Sephiroth an Ancient? Do we all have the same blood?" Hojo: "……mumble….mumble….. head west…." Aeris/th: "He’s mumbling slowly…. That must mean he’s hiding something!")
Hojo – 2
Not a lot of votes there, but Gilgamesh takes the crown on that one. Well, this is it then. We’ve made it to the final edition of the second Bosses edition of the Rumble, the brawl for it all. Ultros from Final Fantasy VI won the first Bosses edition. In the left-hand corner…
Gilgamesh — Largely a comic boss, though he can still sometimes be a fearsome opponent. Regardless of what you think of him, he has come through some tough battles to be here in the final. He shows up at various points in the game and even helps your party at the end– tired of being messed around and being ExDeath’s flunky. But does he have what it takes to be the winner of this edition?
And in the right hand corner…
Sorceress Edea (G-Garden Encounter) — Sorceress Edea bursts onto the scene in Timber and immediately becomes a figure of fear. What you don’t know for a good while, though, is that Sorceress Edea is actually a kindly woman who nevertheless has sorceress powers. She doesn’t actually have any ambitions to rule a nation, etc. etc., instead she’s being possessed by a sorceress from the future named Sorceress Ultimecia who is searching for a girl named Ellone so that she can attain "time-kompression." For this particular edition of the Rumble, we’ve only been considering the battle with Edea in Galbadia Garden– the big one in which, afterwords, Edea is finally freed from Ultimecia’s control. Based on this battle alone, does Edea win the title?
So there it is:
Gilgamesh – Final Fantasy V
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Sorceress Edea (G-Garden Encounter) – Final Fantasy VIII
Cast your votes!
Gilgamesh – 6
Sorceress Edea (G-Garden Encounter) – 4
Gilgamesh wins a close one, joining Ultros in the ranks of your favorite Final Fantasy bosses.
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So what’s next? Well, unless somebody else has some other really exciting idea, I think I’d like to go with an idea suggested by Zak just before this most recent edition started– blue magic / Enemy Skills. There’s a lot of good ones and I think we can have a good mix of ones both used throughout the series and ones unique to specific games. In the meantime, feel free to chat about this most recent result, etc., and the next edition should get started soon…
I realise Blue Magic is going to win the most nominations this time, but it might be worth considering for a future rumble.
And yes, accessories/armor, etc. is definitely something to consider for the future.
White Wind
Mighty/Big Guard
Aqualung / Aqua Breath
Lv# Death
Lv# Confuse
Doom
Blowfish / 1000 Needles
Micro Missiles / Black Shock / Dischord
Roulette
???? / Revenge
Magic Hammer
Fusion / Pep Up
Bad Breath
Laser / Missile
Grand Train – Final Fantasy VI
Quasar – Final Fantasy VI
Step Mine – Final Fantasy VI
Beta – Final Fantasy VII
Frog Song – Final Fantasy VII
Shadow Flare – Final Fantasy VII
Degenerator – Final Fantasy VIII
Shockwave Pulsar – Final Fantasy VIII
Frog Drop – Final Fantasy IX
Limit Glove – Final Fantasy IX
Night – Final Fantasy IX
Angel’s Snack – Final Fantasy IX
Jump – Final Fantasy X
Thrust Kick – Final Fantasy X
Stone Breath – Final Fantasy X + X-2
Nova – Final Fantasy X
Cry in the Night – Final Fantasy X-2
Annihilator – Final Fantasy X-2
First battle…
Blowfish / 1000 Needles (An ability most often associated with cactuars, though for some reason in earlier FF games it is called "Blow Fish." Final Fantasy V and VI let you use this as blue magic and it’s available to Quina in IX. It’s a Blue Bullet in X-2. It also becomes a Technick in XII, though that’s not actually blue magic. Anyways, this skill reliably deals 1,000 damage, so it’s useful if you can get it early, or if for some reason you have need to do exactly 1,000 damage to an enemy.)
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Stone Breath – Final Fantasy X + X-2 (One of only maybe two or three blue magic type spells available only in both X and X-2, but not in any other FF, as far as I know. One of the more useful ones too. Will petrify/shatter all targets that can be affected by that. One particular instance it’s useful is in NSNSGNC game in X against the Guado guards in the Macalania Temple.)
And so, there we go. Some cool spells in the mix and there should be some exciting battles. Cast your votes!
Blowfish / 1000 Needles – 9
Stone Breath – 1
Stone Breath only manages one vote. Guaranteed 1,000 damage definitely appealing.
Next battle…
Magic Hammer (To my knowledge, this one is present in both Final Fantasy V and VII. The basic gist of it is that you can siphon off the enemy’s HP, which can be useful if you’re dealing with a powerful magic user, such as Godo in the Wutai Pagoda. Curiously, this skill works differently in FFVII depending on whether you have the PC or Playstation version. In the Playstation version, it absorbs the enemy’s HP, but for those with the PC version, it only drains it.)
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Limit Glove – Final Fantasy IX (A powerful Blue Magic ability of Quina’s. If Quina’s HP is 1, then this skill deals a guaranteed 9999 damage. Can be manipulated by killing off Quina, saving and then reset as necessary until a Phoenix Down revives hir HP to 1. Useful skill for an Excalibur II or general low-level game.)
i don’t care so much anymore though..debates don’t bring sweet or juicy things..
Limit Glove because i have yet to experience getting 12:00 hour completion time maximum for Excalibur II.
Limit Glove – 8
Bit of a late rush there for Magic Hammer, but it’s Quina’s Limit Glove that moves on to the second round. Oh, and for the record, to the best of my knowledge, Magic Hammer absorbs MP in FFVII if you have the Playstation version, but only drains it if you have the PC version. And in other FFs that have it, I guess it just drains it. I suppose I could be wrong, though, I can check it if anyone wants…
Anyways, moving on…
Roulette (A blue magic spell present in several FFs. As indicated by its name, it’s a bit of a gamble because it instantly kills any target– but that target is selected randomly and could be one of your team. Oh, you’re probably wasting your time if you’re trying it on a boss, because like any such instant-death spell, it generally doesn’t work against them.)
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Frog Song – Final Fantasy VII (Pretty self-explanatory. This little spell has the power to place all targets in Frog status. This is another one that isn’t likely to work against bosses, but it’s still sometimes possible to work it against some tough opponents. Of course, when it does, it’s great, because an enemy that’s been turned into a frog can pretty much do nothing except weak physical attacks.)
Not so much because I like it, but rather because I have recollections of the horribly tedious battles that could ensue in FFVII when you encountered the six ‘Touch Mes’ in the forest near Cosmo Canyon that used ‘Frog Song’ every turn and generally took at least 10 minutes to finally finish off, unless you could get in quickly with a spell that targeted all of them at the beginning of the battle.
Even though Frog Song was occasionally useful in your party’s hands, I still loathed it as a skill for that reason.
Edit: This must be the longest post ever in a rumble, by the way. Apologies if this rant gets in the way of vote counting.
I’m not a huge fan of either ability, but I’m going for Roulette.
In any case…
Roulette – 5
Frog Song – 6
Actually turned out to be pretty close there, but Frog Song takes it by one vote. I get the sense of a lack of enthusiasm for either choice, though, so we’ll see how it fares in Round 2.
Next up…
Laser / Missile (A skill / blue magic found in several FFs. When effective, it had the power to half an enemy’s HP. Again, the type of thing that generally wouldn’t work on bosses, but potentially useful against certain other high HP targets.)
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Step Mine – Final Fantasy VI (A Lore blue magic usable by Strago. Damage is 1/32 of total steps taken and MP cost is variable and based on elapsed playtime x 2. Oh, and this is one of the curious ones that can also be accessed by Gau as a Rage ability.)
Anyway, Laser/Missile.
Step Mine – 0
Laser/Missile wins our first blowout of the edition. Sorry, Step Mine.
Next up…
Lv# Death (A skill that allows you to deal instant death to enemies with a certain level. Sometimes that level is 5, but sometimes it’s something different. Sometimes it can be "?" meaning that it’s determined randomly, making it much more a factor of luck. Can be very useful sometimes, though.)
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Night – Final Fantasy IX (A blue magic for Quina that casts sleep across the entire field, including your own party. Dangerous, of course, if you don’t have the ability equipped on your party to protect them against sleep. Great, though, if you do, and you’re facing a tough enemy, maybe even a boss that can be put to sleep.)
Night – 4
Night had its supporters, but Lv# Death is the more favored skilled. It moves on to the second round.
Next…
Bad Breath (Of course, it sucked when this was used against you, but in some FFs, you could gain the use of this as well. It, of course, inflicts multiple status ailments. So depending on what game you’re playing and what enemy you’re fighting, you could end up with a sleeping, silenced, confused, etc. frog. Of course, many bosses are resistant or immune to status ailments, as well as many tougher monsters. And you don’t usually have a chance to get it until late in the game. Even given that, though, it can still be a pretty nifty little skill…)
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Degenerator – Final Fantasy VIII (A blue magic limit ability for Quistis. Quite simply, this ability vanquishes a single enemy from the screen. It works against pretty much all non-boss monsters, including tough ones such as Malboros, T-Rexaurs, and Ruby Dragons.)
Degenerator – 2
Wow. That didn’t go at all the way I expected. I kinda thought it might be an uphill battle for Bad Breath. Dunno, never found it all that useful myself, given how generally a lot of more powerful enemies could resist it, that, I found Degenerator quite helpful at times. In any case, Bad Breath moves on by a wide margin, and we move on to this next battle…
Aqualung / Aqua Breath (A skill present in several FFs. As implied by the title, it attacks for reasonably strong water-based damage.)
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Frog Drop – Final Fantasy IX (A skill dealing damage based on a multiple of Quina’s level and the number of frogs caught at the Qu Marshes. So it could stronger just by leveling Quina up, but in order to really pile on the damage, you had to go out catch those frogs. One of only a few skills in the game that could deal a guaranteed 9,999 damage [it maxes at 9,999], if you bothered to power it up.)
Aqualung / Aqua Breath – 9
Frog Drop – <font color="red">0</font>
The Quina skill can’t muster up even a single vote. Aqualung / Aqua Breath easily moves on to the next round.
Our next battle is…
Doom (A skill available in several FFs that basically puts a single target on a countdown to death. For those targets that it works on, once the countdown finishes up, the target is KOed. I guess it’s a useful skill if you just like watching a clock count down, if you think it’ll reach 0 before you can just defeat the enemy properly.)
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Annihilator – Final Fantasy X-2 (A Blue Bullet ability of FFX-2’s Gun Mage dressphere. You learn this one from the Experiment at Djose Temple, it’ll use it if its Special level is 5. It’s an all-target attack that deals non-elemental magic damage that ignores Magic Defense [though not Shell.])
Doom is meh nothing special and a normal magic in a lot of other games.
And not one vote for Frog Drop is appauling. Shame I missed that one.
Annihilator – 5
The Blue Bullet from X-2 picks up several votes, but Doom wins this one fairly handily. 60, 59, 58…
All right, the next battle is…
Quasar – Final Fantasy VI (A Lore blue magic ability for Strago. It costs 50 MP and is a reasonably powerful attack that pierces enemy defenses and attacks all targets for non-elemental damage. Can be learned from the Goddess [statue boss] in Kefka’s Tower and also [if you’re lucky] from the Dark Force monster that uses numerous Lores.)
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Jump – Final Fantasy X (It doesn’t get much simpler than this, but it can be very effective. Kimahri doesn’t actually learn this from any enemy, at least that we see. He has this skill by default. Of course, like any other of his, you can use it if he goes into Overdrive. Kimahri leaps and comes back down upon the enemy for additional damage. In other FFs, this skill is generally available to those with "Lancer" or "Dragoon" type abilities.)
BTW, this is the first of two battles in the first round in which both of the entrants are abilities that (at least as far as blue magic goes, anyway) are specific to one particular FF. (‘Cause I included 14 in the many-FF grouping and 18 in the one-FF grouping.)
Quasar – <font color="red">0</font>
Jump – 8
And that means we get to move straight on to…
White Wind (A type of blue magic / enemy skill present in a few different FFs. Also goes by the name "Pearl Wind." It actually can work in different ways based on which FF you’re playing. One example– in FFVII it heals all allies equal to the caster’s current HP and also heals a number of negative status effects. As another example, Quina can use this skill in IX, but it heals based on Quina’s max HP. Not always the easiest or most obvious skill to come by, as you generally have to take control of the enemy or confuse it in order to learn it.)
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Shockwave Pulsar – Final Fantasy VIII (Considered to be Quistis’s most powerful blue magic ability. Enemies are lifted into a giant explosion for massive damage– one of the few attacks in the game that can break the 9,999 damage limit. This one is very tough to learn– you need the item Dark Matter, which can be obtained by using Tool-RF on 100 Curse Spikes, but only if your Siren GF is at level 100. The only other alternative is to be lucky enough to win a Dark Matter from the game Chocobo World, if you have access to that.)
White Wind – 10
Shockwave Pulsar – <font color="red">0</font>
Quistis’s most powerful attack skill– no match for the healing power of White Wind, which blows its way in a massive gust into the second round.
Next battle is:
Black Shock / Dischord (A skill that goes by at least a couple of different names. Either way, the result is the same– this skill halves the level of the enemy. This can seriously weaken the enemy, and also in some cases make it vulnerable to Lv# type blue magic attacks.)
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Beta – Final Fantasy VII (A powerful fire-based that can only be learned from the Midgar Zolom. It’ll use this once it’s knocked a character out of battle and you’ve worn down its HP to around 1000. This attack affects all targets and can be learned immediately after leaving Midgar with the right strategy, making it an extremely useful skill to have early on. It affects all targets and will pretty much decimate them at that point in the game and for quite a long time on.)
(wow – over a year since i posted on these boards…)
Beta – 12
Nice turnout on this Election Day (and in the couple days before it ๐ ). Black Shock / Dischord picks up some support, but nothing like that shown for the fiery Beta skill. It blazes its way to the second round. And now, another chance to make your voice heard with the next battle…
???? / Revenge / Pumpkin Head (Another skill that goes by different names. The basic thrust of it is this, though– this skill does damage based on Max HP – Current HP. "Revenge" is, perhaps, an apt name, then, since it could potentially do some nice damage if your characters have just taken a powerful attack from the enemy. I.E., if the character’s max HP is 9,999 and they’re currently at 1 HP, then the skill would do 9,998 damage. Of course, use of this skill has to be balanced against whether or not the turn might be better spent healing a character before they get KOed…)
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Nova – Final Fantasy X (Kimahri’s most powerful attack blue magic in terms of damage. It can only be learned from either Omega Weapon or Nemesis. This attack causes massive damage to all targets.)
???? / Revenge / Pumpkin Head – <font color="red">0</font>
Nova – 9
Kimahri’s best attack blue magic gets a blowout victory and moves forward to the next round.
Just a few more battles left to go before that next round. Let’s continue with:
Mighty/Big Guard (A defensive type of blue magic used to protect the party. It generally casts Shell / Protect type effects on the party and may also cast Haste or other protective / benefecial statuses depending on which FF you’re playing.)
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Shadow Flare – Final Fantasy VII (A neat looking black-and-white [hence the name "Shadow" portion of the name] that hits a single target for powerful non-elemental damage.)
I can see another demolition here.
I c wot u did thar ^^,
Mighty/Big Guard helped me out a lot though.
Mighty/Big Guard – 12
Shadow Flare – 3
Pretty much walkover, though Shadow Flare does pick up some support. Three battles left in the first round. Continuing with…
Fusion / Pep Up (Another one with more than one name, but the basic idea is the same. This skill sacrifices the character’s life to heavily damage the enemy. It’s available as a Blue Magic in V and VI, though other FFs have skills like this as well, it’s just that they’re not blue magic.)
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Angel’s Snack – Final Fantasy IX (A Quina blue magic that uses Remedy on the entire party, allowing healing of status ailments on all of your characters at once if needed.)
I’m not going to look it up if someone already knows this, how effective that particular self-sacrificing skill is. If it’s as bad as the normal non-blue magic abilities, in FF ten and tactics for example, then that’s not very risky, it’s just a 2x more powerful than a regular attack effect, and that would be what makes the game boring, not challenging..but I don’t know what Fusion/Pepup does,——————–
I have alloted (Chrono Cross foreva!) the majority of my linguistical/terminology/social media memory to more recent activities (books(keeps a sharp mind), news(waste of time unless you actually have a class or friends that give a hoot, or an interest in a particular event/location/person(s)), and video games,
like that lucid dream thread I too force my subconscious to replay video games because I currently lack the resources :'(
to record and play streaming gameplay of grand rpg/action titles to ogle at reflexively.
———-but I’m sure it’s what everyone else knows it to be (because they’ve actually played it duh..).
Angel’s Snack – 9
Wow. Much closer battle than I thought. Angel’s Snack takes this one, making it the only blue magic ability unique to Quina to make it through to the second round. And there are only two battles left before that. Next up…
Thrust Kick – Final Fantasy X (Kimahri’s Thrust Kick launches a powerful blow that delivers non-elemental damage to a single target. It can also simply blow away the target, knocking it out of the battle entirely, unless the enemy is immune or resistant to eject-type effects.)
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Cry in the Night – Final Fantasy X-2 (One of the most powerful Blue Bullet skills for the Gun Mage. This one is extremely difficult to get, as it can only be learned from an oversouled Mega Tonberry at low HP. It deals extremely powerful [breaks the damage limit] non-elemental magic damage to all targets.)
Plus Cry in the Night is an awesome skill, looks cool. Unfortunately it’ll probably lose due to Olde’s statement, but… Thrust Kick? Lame, Shooting Star is FAR more fun for that purpose. Plus Kimahri sucks.
BTW you can also use Cry in the Night from Lady Luck Random Reels.
This ๐
Because Thrust Kick was annoying to deal with when the enemy had it and if you use it you don’t get xp from the guy knocked out (if I remember correctly).
So true~
I hated having to beat the stronger YKT-11 before the YAT-99’s on the highbridge in Bevelle. The YAT-99’s could do more damage, but if you got them first, you got kicked out! Tidus’s brotherhood sword is most effective there. Best place to level up, ever!
But the YKT-11’s thrust kick is a great attack. I’m mainly voting for it because of it use for them, rather than Kimahri.
Cry in the Night – 11
Good battle. Looks like more than enough people got Cry in the Night for it to win handily, though.
Our final battle of the first round…
Lv# Confuse (Like the Lv# Death type spells, but in this case, the spell confuses all targets of a certain level.)
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Grand Train – Final Fantasy VI (Said to be Strago’s strongest Lore ability. There’s only one monster he can learn it from– the fabled Hidon at Ebot’s Rock. It’s an extremely powerful non-elemental magic attack against all targets.)
GrandTrain
Final Fantasy VI, although it was called "Muddle" in that game. Hmm… and I guess that’s actually the only one. Ah well. Anyway, Grand Train by a landslide…
Lv# Confuse – 1
Grand Train – 10
We now continue to the second round…
White Wind
Mighty/Big Guard
Aqualung / Aqua Breath
Lv# Death
Doom
Blowfish / 1000 Needles
Bad Breath
Laser / Missile
Grand Train – Final Fantasy VI
Beta – Final Fantasy VII
Frog Song – Final Fantasy VII
Limit Glove – Final Fantasy IX
Angel’s Snack – Final Fantasy IX
Jump – Final Fantasy X
Nova – Final Fantasy X
Cry in the Night – Final Fantasy X-2
Looks like we’re left with an even number of game-specific blue magic abilities and ones that are present in multiple FFs. First battle of the second round…
Doom
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Beta – Final Fantasy VII
Love skills that are hidden in a sneaky way, and actually found it useful. Plus Doom is a regular magic in most of the games!
Doom – 2
Beta – 14
Doom picks up a couple of supporters, but that’s all. Beta easily passes through to the quarter-finals. Let’s see how things go for the next one…
Laser / Missile
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Nova – Final Fantasy X
Both of these are fairly useful skills. Laser / Missile is a bit more on the practical side, while Nova is a powerful / flashy type skill. Let’s see which wins out. Cast your votes!
Laser / Missile – 7
Nova – 6
Laser / Missile wins a very close battle. Next is…
Lv# Death
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Angel’s Snack – Final Fantasy IX
Both of these can be fairly useful skills. But only one will make it to the quarter-finals. Cast your votes!
Angel’s Snack – 10
Wow, not even close. Lv# Death only manages one vote– thought it would have been a bit more popular than that. Angel’s Snack easily on to the quarter-finals.
Next up…
Blowfish / 1000 Needles
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Cry in the Night – Final Fantasy X-2
Cry in the Night proved somewhat surprisingly popular during the first round. How will it do against the far less powerful, but perhaps more practical Blowfish / 1000 Needles? Cast your votes!
FUCK YEAH CACTAURS!
Cry in the Night – 1
Wow. The support for Cry in the Night simply evaporated. Only one vote. Well, let’s move right along to the next battle…
Aqualung / Aqua Breath
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Limit Glove – Final Fantasy IX
Both of these can be useful moves when applied in the right situations. Should be interesting to see how this one goes. Vote!
In Aqua Breath form, it’s less useful, but it still gets my vote. Besides, I hardly ever used Limit Glove.
Limit Glove – 1
Man, these last few battles have been total drubbings. Well, maybe that’ll mean more intense battles in the next round. We’ve still got three battles to go before we get to that next round, though, so let’s get on with it…
Mighty/Big Guard
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Grand Train – Final Fantasy VI
A protection skill found in several FFs vs. Stragos’s most powerful Lore ability from Final Fantasy VI. A good battle, or another thrashing? Your votes will decide– cast them!
Mighty Guard
Battle ended by blowout…
Mighty/Big Guard – 8
Grand Train – <font color="red">0</font>
Next battle…
Bad Breath
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Jump – Final Fantasy X
Somehow, I sense another thrashing coming. But who knows? Jump was surprisingly popular in the first round, so maybe it’ll do well here. In any case, I may give this some extra time, due to the holiday, but only if there’s a spread of greater than three votes. And, of course, I’ll still end it early again if there’s a blowout.
That’s exactly how I feel about it, too– Bad Breath seems cool, but I hardly ever used it myself. I wonder if that sentiment might end up being its demise in latter rounds? Nevertheless, it sails through here.
Bad Breath – 10
Jump <font color="red">0</font>
With that, we’re right into the final battle of the second round…
White Wind
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Frog Song – Final Fantasy VII
Another thrashing coming? It seems like a lot of the game-specific skills have been pretty outclassed, but maybe this will be the one that breaks the mold. Cast your votes!
EDIT: can you please makre more even skills? I’ve been looking at the past ones and they’re all really uneven.
Frog Song is a fun one but White Wind has more of a purpose
By "game-specific," I mean ones specific to single Final Fantasy game. White Wind appears in several FFs.
EDIT: can you please makre more even skills? I’ve been looking at the past ones and they’re all really uneven.
Well, you see, an equal number of both game-specific and several-FF skills were voted through to the second round. And so I wanted to keep things even and continue with a series of battles between game-specific and several-FF skills. I guess, when you get right down to it, though, there’s a reason certain skills have shown up in several FF games– because they’re useful and people like them. That, and the fact that some of what was voted through to the second round had a surprising victory in the first round, but just couldn’t hack it in the second. Frog Song, Jump, Cry in the Night– I was surprised that any of those made it through to the second round, and yet, there you are.
White Wind – 9
Frog Song – <font color="red">0</font>
Here’s what’s left for the quarter finals:
White Wind
Mighty/Big Guard
Aqualung / Aqua Breath
Blowfish / 1000 Needles
Bad Breath
Laser / Missile
Beta – Final Fantasy VII
Angel’s Snack – Final Fantasy IX
I think you guys will agree we’ve whittled away a lot of the junk. So let’s see if we don’t start having some better battles now. First battle of the quarter finals:
Aqua Lung / Aqua Breath
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Laser / Missile
Both of these are pretty useful. Aqua Lung / Aqua Breath provides one of the few opportunities for water-based damage, while Laser / Missile can half an Enemy’s HP, which often comes in handy. Cast your votes!
Laser / Missile – 4
A better battle than any of the ones we’ve had recently, but Aqua Lung / Aqua Breath wins by several votes. Next up…
White Wind
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Bad Breath
Now this, I think, should be a fascinating battle. Cast your votes!
Bad Breath – 6
Well, something of a late rally there. So it turned out to be a more decent battle than many of the other recent ones. Still, Bad Breath falls shy by several votes. So it’s White Wind to the semi-finals. Our next battle is…
Blowfish / 1000 Needles
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Angel’s Snack – Final Fantasy IX
Both seem like fairly useful skills and both have done well to make it this far. Cast your votes!
Blowfish / 1000 Needles – 14
Angel’s Snack – 1
Yet another thrashing. After making past two rounds into the quarter-finals, Angel’s Snack only manages to pick up a single vote. Let’s end the quarter-finals with this battle…
Mighty/Big Guard
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Beta – Final Fantasy VII
Beta’s a powerful attack skill and it has a "cool" factor for a couple of different reasons– its appearance and the fact that with the right knowledge, you can gain it really early and do some ownage. Of course, it does have the weakness of being an elemental attack.
Mighty/Big Guard, on the other hand, is great for defense, but its usefulness and general availability varies based on the game.
Fixed…
Erm, yeah. Suffice it to say that I found the whole thing ridiculous (and would have been in any thread, not just a rumble), and not just on one side. It should have been taken to PM right away, and definitely not carried on for that long, no matter what. In any case, it’s done now, so enough with it. (And for those who have no idea what I’m talking about– that’s perfectly fine.)
Anyways…
Mighty/Big Guard – 2
Beta – 9
Wow! Something of an upset. Mighty/Big Guard was a very popular choice in the first couple of rounds. I thought it had a good chance for the final, but instead it only manages two votes. That brings us to the semi-finals. Here’s the line-up…
White Wind
Aqualung / Aqua Breath
Blowfish / 1000 Needles
Beta – Final Fantasy VII
First battle of the semi-finals:
Aqua Lung / Aqua Breath
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Beta – Final Fantasy VII
It’s an elemental skirmish in this first battle of the semi-finals– water vs. fire. Will Aqua Lung / Aqua Breath give Beta a good thrashing, or does Beta’s fire burn so brightly that Aqua Lung / Aqua Breath will end up as nothing but steam? Cast your votes!
Erm, yeah. Suffice it to say that I found the whole thing ridiculous (and would have been in any thread, not just a rumble), and not just on one side. It should have been taken to PM right away, and definitely not carried on for that long, no matter what. In any case, it’s done now, so enough with it. (And for those who have no idea what I’m talking about– that’s perfectly fine.)
Figures I miss all the fun drama on weekends…
But anyways, Aqualung
Beta – 6
Aqualung – 4
Beta was leading all along, and Aqualung just couldn’t mount a comeback. Close vote, though. Sorry if there’s still anybody that wanted to vote and didn’t get a chance, but I think it’s been up enough over the past few days that there were a fair few windows of opportunity.
Our second semi-final battle…
White Wind
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Blowfish / 1000 Needles
White Wind is a useful healing spell, but Blowfish / 1000 Needles has a certain "cool" factor about it. Cast your votes for our second finalist!
*tosses a coin*
Blowfish/1000 Needles~!
White Wind – 3
Blowfish / 1000 Needles – 6
Wow! I had thought that both White Wind and Big Guard were the most likely candidates for the final, and both of them have been knocked out. Our final battle:
Blowfish / 1000 Needles
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Beta – Final Fantasy VII
The favored attack of cactuars– guaranteed 1000 damage, vs. FFVII’s powerful fire attack on all targets. Oh, and I’m going to say this up-front this time– I’m going to give three days to vote on this, since things could go down again at any time. The only way it’s ending early is if there’s a blowout.
I like them both. But I think it would be quite unfair for a candidate from one game in specific to beat one that has been in several. Other than that, I find 1000 Needles to be of a lot more use.
Blowfish / 1000 Needles – 5
Beta – 2
And there you have it! Congratulations to our winner:
Blowfish / 1000 Needles
Watch for the next edition coming in a day or two. I already have a pretty good idea what I want to do next, so no need for nominations for a category this time.
If you aren’t planning to do something equipment-related though, please consider it for the next one.
Actually, I want to do locations. We’ve never done it here, before, mainly because I had considered it the province of the Champions Rumble when that was still around, but I wanna give it a shot here. To keep things interesting and fresh, however, I’ve got some themes set-up.
Beachfront Bliss / Water Wonders
Serpent Trench – Final Fantasy VI
Costa del Sol – Final Fantasy VII
Dollet – Final Fantasy VIII
Daguerro Library – Final Fantasy IX
Luca – Final Fantasy X
Nomination Spot 1
Nomination Spot 2
Ancient Wonders
Library of the Ancients – Final Fantasy V
Ancient Castle (Odin’s Castle) – Final Fantasy VI
Temple of the Ancients – Final Fantasy VII
Madain Sari – Final Fantasy IX
The Ruins of Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X
Giruvegan – Final Fantasy XII
Nomination Spot 1
Nomination Spot 2
High Society / Techno Marvels
Vector – Final Fantasy VI
Midgar – Final Fantasy VII
Esthar – Final Fantasy VIII
Lindblum – Final Fantasy IX
Bevelle – Final Fantasy X
The Imperial City of Archadia – Final Fantasy XII
Nomination Spot 1
Nomination Spot 2
Wild Card Category
8 Nomination Spots
I like the categories I’ve come up with, but I also realize there are a lot of great locations that don’t really fit into any of these areas. So I’m leaving 8 Nominations Spots in a "Wild-Card" category, for anybody to nominate any locations they choose. Feel free to post as few or many as you want, and/or second, etc. any that people post before you. And there are Nomination Spots with in the regular category sections as well, so please nominate for those as well. Just post it all with your vote.
But now, it’s straight on to our first battle, in the Beachfront Bliss / Water Wonders category:
Costa del Sol – Final Fantasy VII (A beachfront town, you mainly just pass through this in FFVII. You can do quite a bit or almost nothing here, depending on your playing style. Once you get off the boat coming Junon, there’s a brief mandatory scene and then you’re welcome to leave right away. However, if you do stick around, you can encounter an amusing sequence with Hojo, some hijinks with Barret, and other interesting things. There’s also various shops and, later in the game, you can even buy Cloud his very own villa if you want.)
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Daguerro Library – Final Fantasy IX (Drawing on the power of water, this is an ancient and secluded library. You can only access it using either an airship or a gold chocobo. You can pick up some great cards and items here. This is also where you’ll find the Four-Armed Man and can learn his true name if you make Rank S treasure hunter.)
But yeah I say do equipment next!
And… gotta go with Daguerreo Library. Better music, better stuff. Costa Del Sol had so much potential though, shame.
What the hell, I’ll go for Costa Del Sol here. Daguerreo had some good weapons and synthesists, but there’s little by way of plot-related scenes to be found there (maybe an ATE but I can’t remember fully).
Daguerro for me.
Phon Coast has to go in the ‘Beachfront Bliss’ category.
Seconded~
The Orphanidge (Final Fantasy VIII) could go in ancient wonders I guess. Tis a lovely place would be nice to see it included.
Centra Ruins (FFVIII) for Ancient Wonders, definitely.
As for the wild card category, how about using something like Caves and Forests? Not boring ones, of course. I mean ones with certain appeal to them like Ancient Forest (FFVII) and Sochen Cave Palace (FFXII).
Also, I’d nominate the Dinosaur Forest (FFVI), even though it’s not really an official Location, still. :*
Let’s get the results on the first battle…
Daguerro Library – 3
Costa del Sol – 6
Not a bad battle to start out. Costa del Sol wins by a few votes. Next up, a battle from the Ancient Wonders category…
Ancient Castle (Odin’s Castle) – Final Fantasy VI (A castle lost to the mists of time, it is only accessible in the World of Ruin. As you travel along using Figaro Castle, the man will say that there’s something odd about the stratum and you’ll have the choice to stop. If you do, you can exit from the dungeon where the prisoners once were and after traveling through an underground area, you’ll reach this castle. This is where you have the opportunity to gain the esper, Odin, and he can also be upgraded to Raiden here. One of the eight dragons needed to break the seal for the esper Crusader is also located here.)
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Giruvegan – Final Fantasy XII (Said to be a holy land, this city is told of in a song by the Viera. Your party is baited here by Cid. They seek the Jagd Difohr and the Feywood, then travel through a hidden area to reach this land. This is the home of the Crystal Core, and here, the party discovers the Occuria, who grant Ashe the Treaty-Blade. Later, you can return and fight powerful foes, including the esper Ultima and the great weapon Omega Mk XII.)
Ancient Castle (Odin’s Castle) – 1
Giruvegan -6
Giruvegan wins easily. Next up, from the category of High Society / Techno Marvels:
Esthar – Final Fantasy VIII (A xenophobic city, Esthar has a very technological look about it and boasts advances you won’t find anywhere else in the world of Final Fantasy VIII. Travel throughout the huge city can be done by skyways. This is also the home of O Lab and a grand presidential residence. Many residents from this town chose to leave in favor of peace and formed the idyllic community Fisherman’s Horizon.)
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Bevelle – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (This town’s powerful machina assured its victory from the start in its war against the city of Zanarkand. Later on, it became the home seat for Yevon. Your party visits here after defeated the town’s heavily teethed gatekeeper and learns some hard truths. In Final Fantasy X-2, it becomes the home for New Yevon. The party discovers the former resting spot for Vegnagun in its depths and later you can also visit the forbidding Via Infinito dungeon.)
Don’t forget that nominations are still going. I’m probably going to go through the three categories one more time before closing nominations, so if there are more choices that anyone wants to add, please get them in, or I’ll just fill the rest of the slots myself, with my personal favorites.
Bevelle – Final Fantasy X/X-2
Esthar was a far better experience when first getting there. Also better music++
Esthar
Esthar – 5
Bevelle – 5
It was losing by several votes, but Esthar mounts a surprise comeback, bringing us our first tie in quite a while. And when there’s a tie in the first round in this particular rumble, I do a coin toss to determine the winner. The winner, in this case is… Esthar! But it looks like it may have an uphill battle to get past the second round.
In the meantime, we move back to the Beachfront Bliss / Water Wonders category with this battle…
Dollet – Final Fantasy VIII (Your party lands on the beach of this town in the well-known "Landing" FMV. Here, Squall and co. undergo their SeeD field test and it’s here that the Galbadian army seizes a communication tower for its purposes. Your party makes a thrilling escape from a mechanized menace, which Quistis shoots down with a big gun, unless your party manages to take it down. Later, you can return to Dollet. There’s not all that much to do here, though this is the place to go for the Queen of Cards sidequest. There’s also fairly amusing bit involving the painter and his grandson (the grandson also happens to carry the cards you lose to the Queen of Cards as part of the sidequest. You can also sneak back into the path leading to the communication tower, if you want, and encounter a fairly amusing sequence.)
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Luca – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (Towns don’t generally get much bigger than Luca in Final Fantasy X, because of Sin. This is the home of the blitzball stadium and it’s also where your party finds Auron. The Al Bhed Psyches kidnap Yuna here, but you manage to recover her. Additionally, this is where Seymour supposedly fends off a fiend attack, though you later learn the whole thing was orchestrated by him to show off the power of Anima. This is also the home of the Sphere Theater, where you can view/listen to spheres of the games FMVs and music. In Final Fantasy X-2, a new sensation sweeps Luca– a game called "Sphere Break." Blitzball’s still there, too, though you don’t get to play it until the end of the game. Yuna also reminisces here about time spent with Tidus, and learning how to whistle. Oh, and let’s not forget the concert, which turned out to actually be the work of an impostor, Leblanc.)
Luca – 4
Luca takes an early lead, but Dollet comes from behind, leaving Final Fantasy X/X-2 0-2 so far in this edition. Our next battle, from the "Ancient Wonders" category–
Library of the Ancients – Final Fantasy V (A.K.A. the "Ancient Library." When Cid goes off and gets sloshed following the shattering of the Fire Crystal, the party travels here. After traveling through an underground dungeon, they fight Ifrit [as well as various bookshelves] and then discover Mid, Cid’s grandson. He found a book that can get Cid’s steamship running in the library. Later on, when the worlds are merged, the scholars from the Surgate Library of Galuf’s world arrive here. They had the other half of the Book of Sealings. The two parts are reunited in the Library of the Ancients.)
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Madain Sari – Final Fantasy IX (The village of the summoners, Madain Sari is something of a lost village. The party arrives here with Eiko and discovers that the place is little more than ruins. It turns out that Eiko and Garnet are all that remains of an ancient summoner tribe that once lived here. Eiko’s grandfather died the year before and she’s been living with just the moogles ever since. A great natural disaster struck the village ten years before, but her parents survived. They decided to have a family, but passed away when Eiko was still very young. The party discovers the Eidolon Wall here, which the summoners have protected for generations. Lani shows up here and takes Eiko’s precious jewel, but is scared away by Amarant, who ends up joining your party. As for Lani, she ends up being taken in by the moogles and living here.)
Madain Sari – 6
Well, I suppose that’s no big surprise, but I’m glad that the Library from V got at least one vote.
All right, next up…
Midgar – Final Fantasy VII (A city powered by a series of Mako reactors. "A floating city… Pretty unsettling scenery." The upper world is a "city on a plate" and those below suffer and deal with polluted air. Yes, Midgar is something of a techno marvel, but it’s also full of slums. You start the game of Final Fantasy VII in Midgar and spend a fairly substantial amount of time in it before venturing out to the world at large. The town is numbered into Sectors, such as Sector 7– home of Tifa’s Seventh Heaven. Also within Midgar are Wall Market, the Shinra Headquarters and the church where you first meet Aeris/th. Later, the party returns to Midgar and tries to stop Hojo from supplying energy to Sephiroth.)
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The Imperial City of Archades – Final Fantasy XII (The seat of power for the Archadian Empire. You actually first enter Old Archades, which is where those who just didn’t have the right information to enter the city proper dwell. As for the main city itself, one main thing to note is that it’s the home of the Draklor Laboratory, where Balthier’s father Cid schemes away his days. In order to get there, you first have to take part in a short quest to get "chops." You can continue this quest later on to get an even better "chop," which gets you access to the uppermost level of the city, where one of the cockatrices that’s part of that sidequest is waiting and you can also get some rewards related to the rare monster quest.)
Oh, and Happy New Year, everyone! This will end on the evening of January 2, eastern time, unless it’s either a blowout or a runaway result.
Archades was such an interesting location, I feel rather bad voting against it.
ETA- Happy New Year, guys ๐
Happy New Year all!
Midgar – 3
Archades – 3
Seems we have a tie. So we go to a coin toss, and the winner is… Midgar.
Anyways, nomination time is over. So I’ll go add in the nominated choices now and fill out the rest with choices of my own that I think are worthwhile.
And now, our first battle from the Wild Card category:
Wutai – Final Fantasy VII (A town once proud of its culture, Yuffie berates her father Godo for turning the place into a "cheesy resort town peddling to tourists." He explains that he felt shame in losing to the Shinra, but began to wonder about the meaning of strength– i.e., if he were to resort to the enemy’s tactics, would he become like the enemy? Wutai is where you’ll take part in Yuffie’s sidequest [both maddening and fun] and also see the events of the pagoda. It’s also the home of Da-chao statue.)
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Sochen Cave Palace – Final Fantasy XII (A most curious dungeon. Your party first travels through here on the way to Archades and encounters the Mandragoras, among other tough enemies. It’s something of a twisted maze, with a lot of cramped spaces, and thus can be difficult to navigate at times. This dungeon is home to several secrets, including three of the Rare Game, treasure hidden by a puzzle and the lengthy, though not overly challenging, battle with the Hell Wyrm.)
Sochen Cave Palace – 2
Next up, from the Ancient Wonders category:
Temple of the Ancients – Final Fantasy VII (The home of the Black Materia… well, not quite. The temple is actually is the Black Materia. Your party is able to gain entrance here once you acquire the Keystone, following the events at the Gold Saucer with Cait Sith. The Temple is something of a labyrinth and is also home to some powerful monsters. Your party finds Sephiroth here, where he kills off Tseng, and you see some real signs here that something’s not quite right with Cloud…)
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Terra / Bran Bal (After completing Ipsen’s Castle, your party is able to head to Terra via Shimmering Island. Bran Bal is the home of the genomes, Zidane’s race. Garnet collapses here upon seeing the eye in the sky– actually the airship Invincible. It is here that Zidane learns of his heritage…)
Temple of the ancients was as annoyingly frustrating as the cloisters of trials.
Temple of the Ancients – 3
Terra / Bran Bal – 5
So it’s Terra / Bran Bal by two votes. Next up, from Beachfront Bliss / Water Wonders…
Junon – Final Fantasy VII (Your party finds its way here after traveling through the Mythril Mines, perhaps stopping over at Fort Condor first. Junon is somewhat like Midgar in that it’s sectionalized. Your party first arrives in Lower Junon, which is full of polluted air from the upper city. Oh, speaking of the Upper City, when you get there, they’re busy throwing a big inauguration party for Rufus Shinra. Your party sneaks on up thanks to Priscilla and Cloud even ends up being part of the parade. There are a lot of secrets hidden in Junon, including the Beginner’s Hall—> Intermediate. Your party is held in Junon following the events of Sephiroth’s summoning Meteor. Later, you return for some fun involving the town’s Underwater Reactor.)
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Phon Coast – Final Fantasy XII (An area just past the Salikawood forest. Your party arrives here and you learn some major stuff about Balthier’s past, but it’s largely just a stopping point on the way to Archades. There is a sidequest here, in the form of the rare game hunters. You turn in your trophies in exchange for the ability to shop for prizes. Besides the town itself, there’s a lot of sprawling wilderness areas where you can fight monsters. Despite the seeming lack of stuff to do here, there’s no doubt that this place is popular. It took second place in the locations edition of the XII Rumble and its musical theme, "The Phon Coast" was the winner of the music edition.)
Junon – 3
Phon Coast – 4
Close battle, but FFXII’s Phon Coast takes it by one vote. Our next battle, from the Wild Card Category…
Dinosaur Forest – Final Fantasy VI (Not actually a specific, named location, but it was one of the nominations and I decided to go with it. This is a forest available only in the world of ruin. Some people in the caverns where you find Shadow refer to there being powerful "dragons" in the forest, but this was actually a translation error. It’s actually dinosaurs– specifically the Tyrannosaur and the Brachiosaur. Both of these are extremely powerful monsters, but the rewards for fighting them can be extremely great and so they are generally favored for leveling up. Additionally, the Brachiosaur sometimes drops the fabled Economizer Relic, and Locke can steal the valuable Ribbon.)
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Calm Lands – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (The Calm Lands were so named because summoners took note of the vast, open prairie as an ideal place to fight Sin and thus usher in the Calm. In Final Fantasy X, your party finds yourself here following the events in Bevelle and the scene with Tidus and Yuna in the Macalania Woods. This vast area is where many summoners of lesser resolve ended up quitting their pilgrimages. Your party finds rest at the travel agency here, prior to continuing on. Upon trying to leave, they are confronted with Guado representing Lord Seymour. They say that Seymour doesn’t need them alive and then summon a giant machina. Those interested in most of FFX’s sidequests generally end up spending quite a bit of time in the Calm Lands. It’s the home of the monster arena, the chocobo-training mini-game as well as Remiem Temple, where Yuna completes her training with the unsent summoner Belgemine and where you can also obtain the Cloudy Mirror. In Final Fantasy X-2, the Calm Lands has become home to two companies– Open Air and Argent Inc. They offer a number a number of mini-games. You can choose to aid in the publicity for one or both companies and if you obtain Episode Complete in Chapter 5, Tobli merges the two and you can unlock either one or two new games. Additionally, later on in the game, you can send Clasko here and he’ll set up a chocobo ranch where the monster arena once was. Finally, there is a man at the travel agency who you can participate in a "matchmaking" mission for.)
Calm Lands
Dinosaur Forest <font color="red">0</font>
Calm Lands – 6
So it’s the ol’ goose egg for the Dinosaur Forest and the Calm Lands progress to the second round. Next battle, from the High Society / Techno Marvels category…
Lindblum – Final Fantasy IX (Your party finds its way to this town after a thrilling airship chase upon leaving Dali. Here, you meet up with the Regent Cid Fabool, who was changed into a frog by his wife, the Lady Hilda, due to his treachery. Cid was a friend of Garnet/Dagger’s father and he was, in fact, the one who commissioned the kidnap of the princess because of his concern over Brahne’s actions. Besides the royal castle, Lindblum is composed of three districts– the Business, Industrial and Theater Districts. You take part in the Festival of the Hunt in Lindblum. Later on, Lindblum is devastated in an eidolon attack and taken control of by Alexandria. The Industrial District is completely destroyed and the rest of the town is heavily damaged.)
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Deep Sea Research Center – Final Fantasy VIII (A secret area only accessible once you gain control of the Ragnarok airship. If Zell is in your party when you land here, he indicates that he knows something about the place. If you let him speak, he explains that he thinks it must be the lost mobile research center, "Battleship Island." The people that worked there were trying to develop a Draw system and even experimented with some powerful GFs. After he explains this, Squall thinks that maybe he should give him more credit. As you venture in, if you perceive the light pattern correctly, you can make your way forward and eventually battle and obtain the GF Bahamut. A new path opens up and your party can venture deep into the depths. All sorts of powerful monsters are inside the Deep Sea Research Center and eventually you can fight the Ultima Weapon and obtain the GF Eden.)
And ooh this a surprisingly tough one, the research center was very awesome, but Lindblum is such a neat city… Deep Sea Research Center ๐
Deep Sea Research Center – 3
Very close battle, but Lindblum takes this one by just one vote.
Time now for our final battle in the Ancient Wonders category…
The Ruins of Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (In Final Fantasy X, the Ruins of Zanarkand loom large as the final destination where summoners must head after completing their training in order to obtain the final aeon. Past the snowy peaks of Mt. Zanarkand, the city waits. Rikku begs Yuna for more time, but down your party goes. In the temple there awaits Yunalesca, who is there to transform one of the guardians into the fayth for the final summoning. But Yuna won’t have it. She and the party put an end to false hope and defeat Yunalesca. In Final Fantasy X-2, the Ruins of Zanarkand have become a tourist attraction. Yuna can hardly believe the way that the place has been profaned, but the Gullwings plow onwards because the sphere oscillo-finder picked up a report of a sphere there– though it turns out to be only half a sphere. Both Isaaru and Cid have taken jobs here, though neither seem entirely satisfied with their lot. Later on in the game, the party can return and match monkeys to their soulmates. If they do, then the place becomes overrun by monkeys and the tourist crowds are chased away.)
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Edea’s Orphanage – Final Fantasy VIII (The place where Squall, Seifer, Quistis, Zell, Selphie and Irvine all grew up. Also the home of ‘Sis’ Ellone, until one fateful day. The "old orphanage gang" all drifted apart and forgot about their time here due to the GF– all except for Irvine, who doesn’t actually have experience with GF until after he joins your party. It’s he who fills them in on what happened at the ruins of the Trabia Garden and, thus, they begin to reclaim their memories. Although Edea’s Orphanage can be seen as a location on the map as soon as you gain control of Balamb Garden, you don’t actually get to enter it properly until the start of Disc 3. Edea and Cid Kramer have settled down there, though Edea leaves it once again when she joins your party to visit Esthar. Later, following the rescue of Rinoa, she suggests going back there as a place to rest and regroup, leading the famous "promise" scene in the flower field referenced in the game’s opening FMV.)
The Ruins of Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X/X-2 – 7
Edea’s Orphanage – <font color="red">0</font>
Now, the final battle from the Beachfront Bliss / Water Wonders category…
Serpent Trench – Final Fantasy VI (A.K.A. "The Snake Path." Sabin, Gau and Cyan travel along this underground / underwater path, thanks to Gau’s "shiny thing." It’s a fast current and there are a number of alternative paths, but eventually they reach Nikeah and catch a ferry bound for South Figaro. "Narshe is just stone’s throw away…" Later, you can come back if you want and learn Mog’s "Water Rondo" dance.)
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Besaid Island – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (Home of three of the main playable characters– Wakka, Lulu and Yuna. Tidus washes up on Besaid Island following the attack on the Al Bhed ship. It’s here that he first meets Wakka and the Besaid Aurochs and agrees to come with Luca with Wakka and join the Aurochs. Here also is where Tidus disobeys the precepts and heads into the Cloister of Trials, meeting Yuna, who has just become a full-fledged summoner. Yuna was brought to this town by Kimahri, who was acting under Auron’s request. [Braska having told Auron that he thought Besaid would be a good place for Yuna to grow up.] In Final Fantasy X-2, Wakka and Lulu have settled down in Besaid, having married and Lulu about to have a baby. Meanwhile, Beclem of the Youth League is putting the Aurochs through the paces and challenges Yuna to the Gunner’s Gauntlet. In Chapter 3, Wakka stops Beclem from burning down the temple when fiends appear due to the crisis of the aeons.)
Serpent Trench – 5
Besaid Island – 9
So Besaid Island wins by four votes, but what a turnout! Let’s see if we can keep the good times rolling with the second-to-last battle in the first round from the Wild Card Category…
The Royal City of Alexandria – Final Fantasy IX (The town where everything kicks off. Following the events on the theater ship, which is stationed here, you take control of Vivi, a black mage who has ended up in the town. He wants to see the play "I Want to be Your Canary," but his ticket is a fake and reads "I Want to be Your Crow." He ends up sneaking into the performance with the help of a roguish prince named Puck. Alexandria is ruled by Queen Brahne, who seems to have gone off her rocker and is one ugly creature to boot– though boy is her princess daughter a sight. Alexandria is the home of a number of the game’s major events. You later return and end up busting Garnet/Dagger out and then following the events at the end of Disc 2, the entire party returns for her coronation, only for things to really go off-kilter thanks to Kuja, Bahamut and the Invincible. Much of Alexandria is left in ruins and Garnet/Dagger goes completely mute.)
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The Royal City of Rabanastre – Final Fantasy XII (The town at the focus of much of the events of Final Fantasy XII. Once independent, the king has been deposed, Ashe supposedly dead and Rabanastre is now under the rule of the Empire of Archadia. Although an insurgency has formed, things aren’t looking to good for Rabanastre at the start of the game. Nevertheless, it’s still quite a town. Laid out into a number of areas, it has exits to the south, east, north and west as well as a teeming Bazaar area, a royal palace and a number of shops, not to mention a large underground slum area where many have been forced to take refuge. It’s also the home of Clan Centurio. Following the game’s initial events, you can also take advantage of the moogling for easy transport in this town. You spend quite a bit of time here at the opening of the game and you’ll generally want to return throughout for various sidequests.)
So… it’s a battle of royal cities. But which will take the crown in this battle? Cast your votes!
Rabanastre? *Shudders*
Rabanastre – 2
So Rabanastre only manages to scrape a couple votes and it’s Alexandria to the second round fairly easily. Kinda surprising, as Rabanastre won the locations rumble for XII, but I guess it just didn’t have what it took against Alexandria. Next up, the final battle from the category of High Society / Techno Marvels…
Vector – Final Fantasy VI (The seat of the Empire. The party needs Setzer’s help in the form of an airship to get here. The airship crashes, but they made it to the continent, so you hoof it to Vector. Here, you sneak into the Magitek facility where Kefka is "researching" the espers. Later on, you return here and have the banquet with the emperor in the palace. You can also check up on Kefka, who is stewing in a jail cell, and spend some time trying to convince the soldiers that peace is desirable.)
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The Dark City Treno – Final Fantasy IX (This city seems to exist in a state of perpetual night. Even the world map goes dark when you travel here. You first visit Treno as Dagger/Steiner. This is the home of Tot, or Toot or Ted.. bah, whatever his name is, and you get the Supersoft from him here. There are various shady characters here. The card game is popular here and you participate in a card tournament here on Disc 3. There’s also an auction house here where you can acquire some useful items. Kuja is seen hanging out there, as he makes for Alexandria and his little canary…)
But Treno rocks because I don’t have a job and don’t live with family which puts theiving on the top of ‘greatest spiritual profit’ list, and very dependent on night..
Vector – 1
Treno – 10
And with that, Final Fantasy VI is completed eliminated from this edition of the rumble. We move on to the final battle of the first round. It’s from the Wild Card category…
Forest of the Ancients – Final Fantasy VII (A.K.A. "The Sleeping Forest." This forest lies just past bone village and can only be awakened by the power of the Lunar Harp. If you try progress past it without the Lunar Harp, you just become disoriented and there’s no way forward. The Typhoon Materia awaits in this forest. Cloud first talks with Aeris/th in this forest in a sort of dream sequence following the events at the Temple of the Ancients and thus directs the party to head there.)
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Ultimecia’s Castle – Final Fantasy VIII (Upon entering the castle, various powers of your characters are sealed, such as GF, Magic and Revive. You have to fight bosses placed throughout the castle to get them back. Your party is also split into two groups, with switch points placed in-between, so it’s sort of a puzzle thing, and of the puzzles are based on weight. If at any time you leave the castle, you get your powers back, but any that you haven’t yet earned back are resealed upon reentering the castle. The various bosses in the castle are also your chance to earn GFs you may have missed before. But if you’re looking for a challenge, it’s actually possible to proceed straight to Ultimecia without fighting a single one of these bosses. Oh, and this castle is also the residence of the extremely tough Omega Weapon monster.)
The Forest Of The Ancients
Because I distinctly remember I had to use a guide to find the bosses to get my desired abilities back in Ultimecia’s Castle, which annoyed me significantly.
Forest of the Ancients – 4
Ultimecia’s Castle – 6
Pretty close, but those last few votes for Ultimecia’s Castle really sealed the deal. But it looks like Ultimecia Castle’s has an uphill battle if it’s going to survive past the next couple rounds or so. Speaking of new rounds, time to get started on the next one. Standby for the choices for the second round, and here we go…
Beachfront Bliss / Water Wonders
Costa del Sol – Final Fantasy VII
Dollet – Final Fantasy VIII
Besaid Island – Final Fantasy X and X-2
Phon Coast – Final Fantasy XII
Ancient Wonders
Madain Sari – Final Fantasy IX
The Ruins of Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X and X-2
Giruvegan – Final Fantasy XII
Terra / Bran Bal – Final Fantasy IX
High Society / Techno Marvels
Midgar – Final Fantasy VII
Esthar – Final Fantasy VIII
Lindblum – Final Fantasy IX
Treno – Final Fantasy IX
Wild Card Category
Wutai – Final Fantasy VII
Ultimecia’s Castle – Final Fantasy VIII
Alexandria – Final Fantasy IX
Calm Lands – Final Fantasy X and X-2
We’ll keep the categories for this round, but after this one, they’re going to drop away and they’ll be all mixed together from there. Remember, the above list is just for reference as we start out this new round, but if anyone’s inclined to, you can check the current results in the first post of the thread.
Let’s start on the first battle, from Beachfront Bliss / Water Wonders…
Dollet – Final Fantasy VIII (Xu: "Our client for this mission is the Dollet Dukedom Parliament. A request for SeeD was made 18 hours ago. Dollet has been under attack by the G-Army since about 72 hours ago. … … … … … We’re to make a landing at Lapin Beach. We’re to eliminate the remaining G-Army within the city and liberate it A.S.A.P. Afterwards, SeeD members will intercept any G-Army forces trying to make their way into the city from the mountain region." Seifer: "So, what are WE supposed to do?" Xu: "SeeD candidates are to eliminate the G-Army inside the city." Zell: "Sounds important!" Seifer: "Sounds boring. So what you’re saying is, we do all the dirty work…")
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Phon Coast – Final Fantasy XII (Balthier: "It would seem we made the right choice. If we’d taken the easy way and come by airship…one of those patrols would no doubt have been quick to roll out the red carpet. We’re on the Empire’s doorstep now, so we shouldn’t have to worry quite so much… but that’s no excuse to get sloppy. It is still a long road to the capital.")
Phon Coast, the runner-up in the FFXII Locations Rumble, managed to survive to this round, whereas Rabanastre, the winner of the XII Locations Rumble didn’t. Still, Dollet could be formidable competition. Cast your votes!
and I didn’t have the willpower to grind myself through a game which I found unenjoyable (XII)
So I’ll go for Dollet
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Phon Coast – 4
Close battle, but it’s Dollet by one. Purrr, you’ll be pleased to know that your vote was the one that tipped it over. And so the Phon Coast may have gotten second place in the XII Locations Rumble, but it won’t be making it past the second round here. Dollet in the quarter-finals.
Next up, from Ancient Wonders…
Madain Sari – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "Wow, this stew tastes amazing! You should start a restaurant. The fish is just right. Hey, Eiko, where are all the other summoners? Are they hiding underground or something?" Eiko: "Underground? Yeah. They’re all underground, sleeping the eternal sleep." Zidane: "What…?" Eiko: "I’m the last survivor of my tribe. I’ve been living with moogles ever since my grandpa died last year." Dagger: "I’m sorry…" Eiko: "Oh, don’t worry about me. I’m really happy here.")
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The Ruins of Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (Tidus: (narrating) "A city dead for a thousand years. A city I had to see with my own eyes. The end of Yuna’s journey. The last chapter in my story. My thoughts, they kept floating up, and then slipping through my fingers. Slipping away before I could pin them down with words." Rikku: "Yuna, I say no! If we go down there, then you’ll…" Yuna: "Rikku. You’re a true friend, and I thank you, but… I must go…down, to Zanarkand.")
Amazing.
Madain Sari – 1
The Ruins of Zanarkand – 7
Let’s continue on. From High Society / Techno Marvels…
Esthar – Final Fantasy VIII (Nida: "Have you decided on a destination?" Squall: "Esthar." Nida: "Oh man… Xenophobic Esthar. That area’s terrain is not really suited for flying the Garden." Squall: "Anyway, set a course for Esthar.")
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Treno – Final Fantasy IX (Marcus: "…Let’s steal the Supersoft and get this over with." Steiner: "Steal!? How dare you! Do you think I’d let you commit a crime before my very eyes!?" Marcus: "How else would we get the Supersoft?" Steiner: "Quiet! I will not allow such disgraceful behavior!" Marcus: "I never asked you to come along. Quit complaining." Steiner: "Don’t you talk back to me! First of all–" Marcus: "…Uh-oh." Steiner: "Do not interrupt me while I’m talking!" Marcus: "Look behind you." Steiner: "What!? Princess, I urge you not to…!!! P-Princess!? No… Not again… Never have I dealt with such hardship in my 18 years of service. This is all because of you and your scoundrel friends…! … … Gone… An Alexandrian knight must not let such a frivolous matter get to him! I must find the princess!")
Esthar. Bring it on.
dno y i did tht
Esthar – 5
Treno – 5
Ooh wow. A very good battle indeed. It seems we have a tie situation. And in any round other than the first, we look to the results of the previous round or rounds to determine the tie-breaker. So let’s see what the results were from last time…
Esthar – 5/10 – 50%
Treno – 10/11 – 91%
Having only just scraped by on a tie last time, there’s no way Esthar wins the tie here. Treno easily on to the second round on the tie-breaker.
Next, from the ever-interesting Wild-Card Category…
Wutai – Final Fantasy VII (Yuffie: "…I’ve been hearing that ever since I was little. Before I was born, Wutai was a lot more crowded and more important… You saw what it looks like now, right? …JUST a resort town… After we lost the war, we got peace, but with that, we lost something else. Now look at Wutai… That’s why… if I had lots of materia I could…" Cloud: "Listen, Yuffie. I don’t care about the history of Wutai or your feelings. You’ve got our materia and I want it back… now. If you give it back now, we’ll drop the whole thing.")
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Calm Lands – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (Maechen: "Mm-hm. As you know, these plains were once a battlefield. A great battle between Bevelle and Zanarkand, a melee of machina! That war left this place a barren, lifeless land. Then, time passed. The summoners took note of this uninhabited land. Great battles could be fought here, with no harm to the common folk. Perfect for the final battle with Sin, as it were. Summoners wait here, ready to perform the Final Summoning. Ah, to know what they must feel! In any case, when Sin is defeated here, the Calm will visit Spira once more. That’s why this place is now known as the Calm Lands. Exactly who dubbed it so is unknown. And that, as they say, is that. … … Oh dear, I almost forgot to tell you something. There’s a chasm, a great rend in the earth, in these parts. A scar from High Summoner Gandof’s bitter battle with Sin, four hundred years past.")
Wutai – 6
Calm Lands – <font color="red">0</font>
Seems it’s the ol’ goose egg for the Calm Lands– didn’t expect that one. Love me some Wutai,though, so I’m pleased with the result.
Our next battle will be from the Ancient Wonders category…
Giruvegan – Final Fantasy XII (Cid: "Ashelia B???nargin Dalmasca! Just how far will you go for power? Does your lust for Nethicite consume you?" Ashe: <em>(gasps)</em> Cid: "Am I right? I am, aren???t I. A worthy daughter of the Dynast-King! You would do well to go to Giruvegan. Who knows? You may receive a new Stone for your trouble." Ashe: "Your words mean nothing to me!" Cid: The reins of History back in the hands of Man. I too make for Giruvegan. Give chase, if you dare it!" Balthier: "Hate it when he does that.")
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Terra / Bran Bal – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "Oh, so that’s what’s going on… Geez, I should’ve guessed… So, that is what you wanted to show me?" Girl: "Yes. I am glad you understand." Zidane: "I don’t wanna understand! Sorry, but I’m not like that. I mean all these guys with tails, who look just like me… They’re a bunch of zombies." Girl: "They are my peers. We are Genomes. We live in this village." Zidane: "Genomes? Is that what they’re called?" Girl: "Not just them, but you and me, too. It is the name of the seed given to all of us. Its name is Genome." Zidane: "Talk about a let-down. Who would’ve guessed that the home I’ve yearned for would be a dump like this. No wonder I never found it. It’s not even on Gaia!")
I had my internet die for 2 days then when I got the net back then the site was down ๐
Server issues for me. Where are you? I’m also getting a lot of snow.
Oh, and I’m in Dayton, Ohio.
Let’s see if we can get some momentum going again Next battle, from High Society / Techno Marvels…
Midgar – Final Fantasy VII (Barret: "Look… you can see the surface now. This city don’t have no day or night. If that plate weren’t there… we could see the sky." Cloud: "A floating city… Pretty unsettling scenery." Barret: "Huh? Never expect to hear that outta someone like you. …you jes’ full of surprises. The upper world… a city on a plate… It’s ‘cuz of that &^#$# ‘pizza’, that people underneath are sufferin’! And the city below is full of polluted air. On topa that, the Reactor keeps drainin’ up all the energy.")
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Lindblum – Final Fantasy IX ( "The room was terrible. Also, that thing crying ‘Kupo-Kupo’ kept me up all night. Throw him out ASAP, or I’m never coming back." – Lani … … "I’ve already been here a few times, and I like this inn. The location is good, because it’s right in front of the air cab station, and it’s nice having a moogle around. I just wish it were cheaper." – Zidane)
Lindblum – 4
Mrm, another tie. I think we’ve have sufficient voting, though, and no server problems that I know of, so it’s back to the normal tie-breaker and we look to the results of the previous round to determine which of these two advances.
Midgar – 3/6 = 50%
Lindblum – 4/7 = 57%
It seems that Midgar was in a tie last round as well, but that’s not going to be enough this time. A very close one, but Lindblum takes the tie-breaker.
Our second-to-last battle in round 2 now, from the Wild Card category…
Ultimecia’s Castle – Final Fantasy VIII (Squall: "Good. We all made it." Zell: "…Whoa…! So this is her castle?" Selphie: "Finally." Irvine: "I’ve never seen anything so creepy. You think what’s-her-face really lives here?" Rinoa: "We’ve come this far. She’s gotta be here." Quistis: "So this is the future…This is where Ultimecia reigns…" Squall: "I don’t know what’s going on. But since we’re still here, I think we still have some time to finish our job.")
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Alexandria – Final Fantasy IX (Vivi: "Tell me about Alexandria!" Ticketmaster: "The Kingdom of Alexandria is a fine country, ruled by Queen Brahne. Did you know Queen Brahne has a beautiful daughter, Princess Garnet? Unfortunately, I’ve heard strange things about Queen Brahne recently. Today is Princess Garnet’s sixteenth birthday, you know! Her Highness is a beautiful princess, and everyone in Alexandria loves her! Why, she’s the most beautiful princess in the history of Alexandria!")
As for Midgar, I’m actually sick of seeing it win every rumble so I would have voted against it if I didn’t miss it.
Alexandria – 3
Not a bad battle, but Ultimecia’s Castle wins by several votes. Kinda surprising, I didn’t think it was that popular. Looks like it could be a strong contender for the next round. Speaking of which, we’re getting very close to it. Just one battle left in Round 2. From the Beachfront Bliss / Water Wonders category…
Costa del Sol – Final Fantasy VII (Aeris/th: "Oh! Cloud!!" Tifa: "Look, look at that!" Cloud: "Hm…? That girl in the bikini……? Not a bad view…." Tifa: "What’re you looking at? That man over there. That’s Hojo from Shinra. Get outta here. Go talk to him!")
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Besaid Island – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (Yuna: <em>This must be how a runaway feels after finally coming home. This is the first time I’ve returned to Besaid since my journey began.</em> "I’m a little nervous." Rikku: "I bet, the way you took off without a word." Wakka: Yeah, you said it. You caused quite a fuss, young lady." Yuna: "I’m sorry.")
what is that^^^^^^? <–referring to some post seen in other threads..probably already addressed..some rant/rap including links from "wow ____" and "momiso..momuso.."
Costa del Sol – 4
Besaid Island – 5
Close one! Thought it was going to be a tie for a second, but Costa del Sol just didn’t have the momentum. Besaid Island is the last to make it into the quarter-finals, while Costa del Sol goes on its sunny way.
Here’s what’s left for the quarter-finals:
Dollet – Final Fantasy VIII
Besaid Island – Final Fantasy X and X-2
The Ruins of Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X and X-2
Giruvegan – Final Fantasy XII
Lindblum – Final Fantasy IX
Treno – Final Fantasy IX
Wutai – Final Fantasy VII
Ultimecia’s Castle – Final Fantasy VIII
The categories have dropped away, so they’re no longer a factor in the pairing for battles. And remember, the above list is just for reference as we start this new round– you can check the updated details in the first post of the thread if by some chance you’re inclined to.
First battle of the quarter-finals:
The Ruins of Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (Isaaru: "I guide people through Zanarkand, once the most sacred of places. People come from all over Spira. Sphere hunters, too." Yuna: "Oh." Rikku: "Ugh! What the heck is Pop thinking?" Isaaru: "I can see this is upsetting you. But this is a place of great historical importance for all of Spira." Yuna: "I know. But, still… I never wanted anyone else to stand there." Isaaru: "Yuna?" Yuna: "Nothing. Forget it.")
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Ultimecia’s Castle – Final Fantasy VIII (Odine: "Past, present, and future will all get mixed together. You will keep moving through ze time compression toward ze future. Once you’re out of ze time compression, zat will be Ultimecia’s world. It’s all up to you after zat.")
P.S.:
what is that^^^^^^? <–referring to some post seen in other threads..probably already addressed..some rant/rap including links from "wow ____" and "momiso..momuso.."
That’s spam-bots that show up from time-to-time. If you see any, please just ignore it in the thread and, if nobody has already, post a report about in the thread for reporting spam and advertising over in the support section.
Ultimecia’s castle was great but the rooms seemed like they wouldn’t blend if the creators weren’t careful enough.
Ultimecia’s Castle – 4
A decent battle, but The Ruins of Zanarkand (Zanarkand Ruins) definitely come out on top here.
Next battle…
Dollet – Final Fantasy VIII (Old Man: "Hmmm…I wonder if he’s feeling sorry? Hey!! I told you I’d send you to tickling hell if I catch you being bad!" Boy: "But…But…Grandpa, you’re always painting. I’m bored! You never play with me! But you play with girls! Why?" Old Man: "T-T-That’s because you’re always doing bad things! Now you’ve done it. You’re going straight to tickling hell!" Boy: "Wahhhhh!…Ha ha ha ha…Hahahahahahahaha!" Old Man: "Perhaps…I should have played with him more often… But…I’m too old for sports…Poker…? Hmm….." Boy: "I couldn’t fight off the ‘cuchi-cuchi-coo’ to my ribs…So I’m through with my pranks now. But…I was able to voice my opinion! I feel much better about myself. I think I’ve grown up a little."
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Treno – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "Hey, Amarant, have you been here before?" Amarant: "…What about you?" Zidane: "Me? I’ve been to every place where there are beautiful women!" Amarant: "……")
Treno – 4
Very close, but it looks like Dollet wins this one by just one vote. Right, two battles left in the quarter-finals now. Next up…
Giruvegan – Final Fantasy XII (Penelo: "Um??? Does anyone know what happened to Doctor Cid? Wasn’t he saying he’d be here?" Basch: "He should’ve arrived by now." Balthier: "And i should’ve realized by now. He’s not coming. He laid out the bait, and we bit. Remember what he said? He wanted Ashe to get the stone. He wanted that all along. That’s why he flaunted his Nethicite, and reeled us in with stories about Giruvegan. All to bring Ashe to the Occuria." Penelo: "But wait???if we got a hold of the Nethicite, wouldn’t that be bad for the Empire?" Balthier: "Maybe he wants to see what happens when foes with Nethicite collide? That’d be just like Doctor Cid.")
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Wutai – Final Fantasy VII (Godo: "Yuffie…!" Yuffie: "You too, dad…! Just because you lost the war! And turning Wutai into a place like this!" Chekhov: "…What do you want to say?" Yuffie: "You turned Wutai into a cheesy resort town peddling to tourists… How dare you!? Da-chao Statue and Leviathan are ashamed!!" Godo: "…" Shake: "She IS a kid." Yuffie: "Wh, what did you say…!?" Godo: "Yuffie!! Forgive me… It’s all my fault…")
It’ll probably lose, but as annoying as the crystal was, it is pretty hard to beat. As in, hard for anything to beat it. Even Wutai.
(this is of course considering this INCLUDES the crystal and not just the old city)
EDIT: Never mind about it’ll probably lose, haha
Wutai – 3
Yeah, so much for Giruvegan probably losing, eh? Wutai had some support, but it looks like Giruvegan was definitely the one people were mostly going for there. It earns a spot in the semi-finals, while Wutai is out.
Final battle of the quarter-finals!
Besaid Island – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (Jecht: "Smallest heap of huts I ever seen!" Braska: "Now, that looks like a fine place to live. Hmm… Auron." Auron: "My lord?" Braska: "When this is over… could you bring Yuna here? I want her to lead a life far away from this conflict." Auron: "You have my word. I will bring her here." Braska: "Thank you, Auron. You are a good friend." Jecht: "What are you guys doin’? Let’s go! I’m so hungry I could eat a shoopuf whole!" Braska: "Sorry. Well, let’s go then.")
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Lindblum – Final Fantasy IX (Steiner: "I’m lost again… Where is the princess? The town is big, the castle is big, why does everything have to be so big!? Pardon me. Can you tell me where I am?" Grandpa: "What, you’re lost? Gee… You’re a soldier, for cryin’ out loud. This is the bridge that connects the castle and the airship docks. That big building in front of us houses the docks." Steiner: "Wh-What is that large airship!?" Grandpa: "Amazing, isn’t it? It’s the Hilda Garde 2. Since it is equipped with a steam engine, developed by the regent himself, it can fly without Mist." Steiner: "Impossible. How can it fly without being powered by Mist?" Grandpa: "What cave did you just crawl out of!? This is the age of steam power! The source of steam power is water. It’s much safer than Mist. Heh-heh-heh! A bright future awaits us all!")
Lindblum – 5
Looked for a while like Lindlbum was going to run away with it, then Besaid took the lead, but those last two votes there sealed it for Lindblum!
That does it for the Quarter-Finals! Let’s move straight into the Semi-Finals. Here are the four remaining contenders:
Dollet – Final Fantasy VIII
The Ruins of Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X and X-2
Giruvegan – Final Fantasy XII
Lindblum – Final Fantasy IX
And, as always, you can check the updated results in the first post of the thread, but for now, let’s get started:
Dollet – Final Fantasy VIII (Galbadian Soldier: "Hey you…Authorized personnel only! Don’t you know this place is off-limits!?" Squall: "Yeah…and we’re gonna take you on." Galbadian Soldier: "OH, REALLY! Bring it on! Bring out RoboVite 001 … … W-What!? Aah…Well…Bring out the next one… Bring out RoboSharp 002! … … U…Ugh…Why are our men so incompetent…!? IDIOTS!!! We’ll get you! J-Just kidding! Forget you even saw us!!!")
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The Ruins of Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (Yuna: "The Final Summoning. It’s the only way to defeat Sin. The only way. With it we can call the Final Aeon. That’s the goal of the pilgrimage. The Fayth of the Final Summoning lies waiting in the far north, to greet summoners that complete their pilgrimage. At the world’s edge… in Zanarkand." Tidus: "In Zanarkand?" Yuna: <em>(stammers and looks down)</em> Auron: "She means the ruins of a city destroyed a thousand years ago." Tidus: "You sure it’s ruins?" Yuna: "That’s what I’ve heard." Auron: "You’ll see it for yourself soon enough.")
I’ll vote for Dollet since it’ll probably lose.
—–wishing to be registered at Balamb and imagining intensley that the shot of Squall in the dormitory was real, at least that was my experience
but both descriptions of each location in this rumble were great fantasies..of mine…..read part about evil mountain lady from Angels Command: Castaways of the Flying Dutchman, spanish people have powerful imaginations that can kill themselves if they’re not careful or they let someone else intimidate them..
edit: Maguda Razan
Dollet – 5
The Ruins of Zanarkand – 7
So Dollet does lose, as predicted in the first vote of the battle, but it was really quite close. And now, our second semi-final battle:
Giruvegan – Final Fantasy XII (Penelo: "I can’t shake the feeling we’re somewhere we’re not meant to be." Vaan: "Yeah, it’s exciting." Penelo: "Exciting?" Basch: "You are not troubled by the unknown? Who can say what lies ahead? We may encounter the very creators of Nethicite." Vaan: "Yeah, I don’t know what we’ll find. I like it better that way." Basch: "You’re sounding more the sky pirate every day.")
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Lindblum – Final Fantasy IX ( Steiner: "She’s not here, either… Where could she be…?" Baku: "Yo!" Steiner: "!!!? Oh, it’s only you. Why are you all gathered here? Are you scheming another abduction or something?" Blank: "Hey, watch your mouth." Cinna: "We were just discussing ways to restore this district." Zenero: "Yeah." Marcus: "Old timer, you’ve got us all wrong." Benero: "Yeah." Baku: "We’re just tryin’ to rebuild our home. That’s all. What are you doin’ here? From the looks on your face, it seems like you got problems. What’s troublin’ you? Maybe we can help.")
Lindblum kinda pissed me off with some of the potential it had for good sidequests, seemed a little weak and boring. Same with a lot of places in IX.
Also, better music++
Emperor Gestahl – Final Fantasy VI
Rufus Shinra – Final Fantasy VII
Scarlet – Final Fantasy VII
Hojo – Final Fantasy VIII
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII
President Vinzer Deling – Final Fantasy VIII
Queen Brahne – Final Fantasy IX
Garland – Final Fantasy IX
Grand Maester Mika – Final Fantasy X
Trema – Final Fantasy X-2
Cidolfus Demen Bunansa – Final Fantasy XII
Ba’Gamnan – Final Fantasy XII
Emperor Gramis Gana Solidor – Final Fantasy XII
Nomination Spot 1
Nomination Spot 2
Nomination Spot 3
Nomination Spot 4
As always, the above list is for reference only as we get started. You can find the updated results on the first page. If anyone has any ideas for nominations, please post them, as that list wasn’t easy to come up with.
First battle:
Queen Brahne – Final Fantasy IX (The adoptive mother of playable character Princess Garnet til Alexandros / Dagger. Easily one of the ugliest characters in a Final Fantasy game and everyone says so. Under the manipulation of Kuja, she launches a war that sends the Mist Continent reeling.)
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Cidolfus Demen Bunansa – Final Fantasy XII (The father of this game’s Balthier. He’s a top scientist in the Empire’s main research laboratory, but also likes to manipulate things toward his own ends. He made Balthier a Judge, but Balthier wasn’t impressed by the lure of power, and escaped his father, who kept ranting about some "Eynah, or was it Venat"? Cid tries to lure Ashe with the power of nethicite and baits the entire party into traveling to Giruvegan.)
edit: I’d love to nominate Ultros – Final Fantasy VI ๐
Nominate Seifer from FFVIII and The Turks from FFVII, if they can be counted. Also, is Gramis Solidor really a villain? Thinking about it, he tries to help Larsa, who later helps you. And it is really only Vayne who the antagonist from that family. Gramis is more of a neutral character who primarily exists just to make Vayne look more evil when later plot events unfold.
Also Hojo is from VII not VIII.
As for nominations, Raijin and Fujin (as one) and Yunalesca.
And Mika is a baddie? I wouldn’t say that…
I maintain my previous comment:
FFXII Rumble: so everyone likes the fat jew with really long white gloves and high-boots indicating his infantile homosexuality..?
btw Raijin and Fujin are not so clearly villainous either…
I would like to nominate Dycedarg and Gafgarion but that is not an option, i guess …or maybe?
Agent0042, how about doing a little revolution to this thread and invite Final Fantasy Tactics ( not FFTA, FFTA2 or anything related with FF in it’s name, but just original FFT )? I don’t know if this was ever discussed here or not and I don’t know how others feel about this, but it would give a bit of fresh air to the competition. Heh hope I won’t get impaled for suggesting that ;P
All right, Ultros is on the table.
Nominate Seifer from FFVIII and The Turks from FFVII, if they can be counted. Also, is Gramis Solidor really a villain? Thinking about it, he tries to help Larsa, who later helps you. And it is really only Vayne who the antagonist from that family. Gramis is more of a neutral character who primarily exists just to make Vayne look more evil when later plot events unfold.
Sure thing– can’t believe I didn’t think of Seifer. And The Turks as a group, all right. Point on Gramis taken– I’ll remove him.
Also Hojo is from VII not VIII.
As for nominations, Raijin and Fujin (as one) and Yunalesca.
And Mika is a baddie? I wouldn’t say that…
Those are all good nominations. Have to argue on Mika, though– he does sentence your party to death and is the head of the corrupt Yevon. As far as I’m concerned, he’s a baddie. Anyone else have any thoughts on that, though?
I would like to nominate Dycedarg and Gafgarion but that is not an option, i guess …or maybe?
Agent0042, how about doing a little revolution to this thread and invite Final Fantasy Tactics ( not FFTA, FFTA2 or anything related with FF in it’s name, but just original FFT )? I don’t know if this was ever discussed here or not and I don’t know how others feel about this, but it would give a bit of fresh air to the competition. Heh hope I won’t get impaled for suggesting that ;P
Hey, anything Final Fantasy is open game. Final Fantasy: Unlimited too, if anyone wanted. But is anyone else really interested in including Tactics or anything else like that? If you have any thoughts on it, post them with your votes in this next battle…
All right, let’s get the results on this first battle:
Queen Brahne – 5
Cidolfus Demen Bunansa – 8
Dr. Cid takes it by 3. I think I’ll keep the voting at three days for now. Next up…
Emperor Gestahl – Final Fantasy VI (The head of the Empire in Final Fantasy VI. He’s been directing experiments into Magitek and his armies have conquered various towns and villages. He pretends to be on your side for a while, but he was really just stringing you along. Is dramatically offed by Kefka in the climactic events at the end of the World of Balance.)
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President Vinzer Deling – Final Fantasy VIII (Claims to be president of Galbadia, but is really more of a dictator. Not even popular in Deling City. He doesn’t allow any freedom of the press and works to squash anyone who would rebel against him. Squall and his party aid the Timber Owls in a plot to capture him, but they end up capturing a body double. The real Deling ends up being murdered by Edea, controlled by Ultimecia.)
Emperor Gestahl – 6
President Vinzer Deling – <font color="red">0</font>
Next up…
Scarlet – Final Fantasy VII (Really annoying woman who came to Corel way back when to convince everyone that Mako was the way to go. You see her in Gongaga, declaring that you only get junky materia from junky reactors and that she wants some huge materia. On Disc 2, she stages an execution, trapping Tifa in a gas chamber. When Tifa escapes, the two end up in an all out slapfight. Later, she appears to menace the party with her proud creation, the Proud Clod. As with many Final Fantasy VII characters, she has her own special laugh– her’s is "kya ha ha!")
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Ba???Gamnan – Final Fantasy XII – Final Fantasy XII (A Bangaa sent after Balthier when your party is in the dungeons. Later on, he and his gang kidnap Penelo and he threatens to pluck out her tongue. You can either run from him or give him a whipping. Either way, you have your chance at him later when he and his gang become the subject of a Hunt.)
Remember, nominations are still open for at least another battle or two. If I don’t hear anything else about nominations, I’m just going to work with what’s been posted so far. And Zak, Maester Mika isn’t out unless you don’t buy my argument regarding that issue, in which case, you’re welcome to weigh in on the matter.
spoken like a common thug..i mean..Are you daft?!?! Ba’Gamnan.
And I beat him in the Lhusu Mines!
Would have wanted to see Scarlet in AC… she’s still alive at the end of the game isn’t she? Killing the Clod didn’t kill them and that’s the last we see of them and the closest we get to a boss fight with them.
Ba’Gamnan – 6
Scarlet pulled in kinda close toward the end there, but Ba’Gamnan takes it by two.
Oh, and this is it for nominations– if nobody has any further thoughts on that, I start mixing them in starting with the next battle. Next, we have:
Rufus Shinra – Final Fantasy VII (Once his father, President Shinra, is killed by Sephiroth, he ends up becoming the new president of Shinra. He does things differently than his old man– whereas President Shinra felt that people could be controlled by money, Rufus thinks that’s a waste of time and prefers to control them by fear. He throws an elaborate welcoming parade for himself in Junon and continues to be a key figure throughout the game until the big WEAPON attack that sends a missile right into his office. Turns out he survived that attack, though, and ended up living under protection of the Turks.)
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Garland – Final Fantasy IX (Man who created the genomes and who has been trying to restore the planet of Terra. Has a "sinister name" and lives in a "haunted mansion." He sent both Zidane and Kuja to Gaia to disrupt the cycle of souls. He ends up being killed off by Kuja, only to offer his words from beyond the grave, telling Kuja that there’s a limit to his life and he’ll be dead soon.)
Garland – 4
Our next battle is:
Hojo – Final Fantasy VII (A mad scientist type who worked for Shinra Inc. He did many experiments involving Jenova, Red XIII, etc. Sephiroth has a very low regard for him in comparison with Professor Gast. But Hojo actually turns out to be Sephiroth’s father. He tries to send energy to Sephiroth in the Northern Crater, but your party puts an end to him, after a boss fight involving three different forms.)
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Seifer – Final Fantasy VIII (Archrival of Squall– he feels that he always has to be doing something BIG. His romantic dream–to become the sorceress’s knight. He ended up in Balamb Garden along with Squall, but his temperament has made him unfit to be a member of SeeD. He dated Rinoa for a while, though it was never too serious. He’s tight with Fujin and Raijin and together they form the Disciplinary Committee, which was reprised in Kingdom Hearts II. He ends up serving Sorceress Ultimecia, but takes things too far by kidnapping Rinoa, leading even Fujin and Raijin to abandon him, because they don’t know just what’s up with him anymore.)
Seifer – 5
Looks like Seifer started off strong, but it’s Hojo that wins this one by one.
Our next battle is…
Grand Maester Mika – Final Fantasy X (Some question whether he’s a villain, so let’s look at the evidence. He is the unsent head of the corrupt Yevon. He refuses to condemn Seymour’s actions, allowing him to walk around unsent. He condemns Yuna and your party to death, then later has the nerve to try to rely on your party to fix Spira’s mess– then disappears, rotten son of a shoopuf. Oh, and he appears in Final Fantasy X-2’s Via Infinito dungeon, turning into the fiend Concherer.)
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The Turks – Final Fantasy VII (An outfit of Shinra assigned to kidnapping and other such activities. Their membership includes Rude, Reno, Tseng and later Elena. All of them except Tseng can be fought at various times throughout VII. The relationship between Cloud and the Turks ends up becoming quite complicated. They actually briefly ally in Wutai when both Yutai and Elena are captured by the lecherous Don Corneo. During the return to Sector 7, if all previous battles have been fought against them, the player is actually given the choice of whether or not to fight them.)
The Turks
I hate Mika ๐
Grand Maester Mika – 1
The Turks – 8
Looks like we have an obvious winner, with Mika only managing to scrape a single vote. Next up…
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII (This comic duo first shows up to trouble your party at the top of the communication tower in Dollet. Biggs bears the general look of a Galbadian commander type, with Wedge bearing the look of regular Galbadian soldier. Biggs ignores Wedge’s report of a monster-shaped shadow having been spotted and both later end up getting blown away by that monster. But when Squall and the party exit the tower, Biggs sends a little surprise after them in the form of the X-ATM092. Later on, Zell, Quistis and Selphie fight them in the D-District Prison and Biggs reveals that he’s been demoted to a lieutenant. Finally, the party spots them in the Lunatic Pandora, where they contemplate quitting the army.)
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Dycedarg Beoulve – Final Fantasy Tactics (Since I don’t claim to know anything about Tactics, I’m just going to link to Final Fantasy Wiki’s article on this character– http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dycedarg)
Dycedarg Beoulve of course ( if you do not want to vote for the same characters again, almost every rumble possible…)
Dycedarg Beoulve – 3
Sorry, Tactics fans. Good try, but it’s Biggs and Wedge to the second round.
Trema – Final Fantasy X-2 (He was the original founder of the New Yevon party. You meet in the Infinity cloister of the Via Infinito and he turns out to be something of a nihilist. Toughest boss in the game, using strong physical attacks, Ultima, Meteor and other such dangerous stuff. The reward for beating him is very great– the powerful Iron Duke accessory.)
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Ultros – Final Fantasy VI (Or "Orthros" in the most recent translation, Final Fantasy VI Advance. An octopus who menaces your party at various points during the game. Although he sometimes something of a joke, he can be a very tough opponent. Says that he has more lives than he does arms. Relm once sketched his portrait. He ends up working as the receptionist in the Colosseum. He also cameos in a number of other FF games, as well as two non-FF titles.)
and about tactics.. it seems like many here haven’t played it. heh You’re missing out big time people ๐
Ultros – 7
And… that’s it. For the first round, that is. Let’s take a look at what’s left for the second round…
Emperor Gestahl – Final Fantasy VI
Rufus Shinra – Final Fantasy VII
Hojo – Final Fantasy VII
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII
Cidolfus Demen Bunansa – Final Fantasy XII
Ba???Gamnan – Final Fantasy XII
Ultros – Final Fantasy VI
The Turks – Final Fantasy VII
Remember, the above list is only for reference and you can check the updated status of the results on the first page, blah blah blah…
First battle of the second round…
Hojo – Final Fantasy VII (Hojo: "Ha, ha, ha… I offered the woman with my child to Professor Gast’s Jenova Project. When Sephiroth was still in the womb, we took the cells of Jenova… HA, HA, HA!!" Cloud: "I can’t believe you’re the one who did this… The illusionary crime against Sephiroth…" Hojo: "Heee, hee, hee, hee! No, you’re wrong! It’s my desire as a scientist! Heee, hee, hee, hee! I… was defeated by my desire to become a scientist. I lost the last time as well. I’ve injected Jenova’s cells into my own body! Heee, hee, hee! Here are…… Heee, hee, hee! …my results!!")
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Ultros – Final Fantasy VI (Terra: "How dare you bother that little girl! I’m not going to forgive you if you hurt her!!" Ultros: "Well, whadduya want I should do?" Locke: "Ask her to draw your portrait. She may actually make you look pleasant! Don’t be so heartless!" Ultros: "……… ……… ……… ……… ……… ……… ……… ……… Oh, all right, Uncle Ulty REALLY wants you to do his portrait!!!" Relm: "Hee, hee, hee… You’re gonna love it!")
Hojo – <font color="red">0</font>
Ultros – 6
Next up…
Rufus Shinra – Final Fantasy VII (Barret: "You’re only President ’cause yer old man died!" Rufus: "Correct. I’ll let you hear my inauguration speech." "…Father tried to control the world with money, and that worked for him." "The people believed that Shinra would protect them." "Work at Shinra, get your pay. If terrorists attack, the Shinra army will help you." "It looked perfect on the outside. But I do things differently. I’ll control the world with fear. It’s too much to do it like my old man." "A little fear will control the minds of the common people. There’s no reason to waste good money on them." — Quote from PC version of the script)
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Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII (Man A: "Is this the cell with the uncooperative prisoners?" Mean Guy: "Yes, this is it. Please give ’em something to really complain about." Man B: "Should we be picking on prisoners so soon after getting’ transferred here?" Man A: "Just be quiet, and let me handle this!" Mean Guy: "T-These are the prisoners, Lieutenant Biggs, Private Wedge." Zell: (Biggs? Wedge?) Zell, Selphie, Biggs and Wedge: "AAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!" Biggs: "S-So we meet again! Now we’ll teach you the lesson we should have taught you earlier! I know it might seem cowardly to fight unarmed prisoners… …But I hope you appreciate our position. Hey, it’s a dog eat do…" Wedge: "Uh, they are fully armed, sir…" Biggs: "W-WHAT!? H-Ho-How…? Ahh, hell with it! Let’s go, Wedge! I was demoted because of you! I’m only a lieutenant now! I’ll get my revenge!" Wedge: "O-Ouch! They’re always trouble…" Biggs: "We’re just getting started!" Wedge: "I don’t wanna be demoted! … … W-Why…?" Biggs: "What’s below lieutenant…?")
Will this be another blowout against FFVII, or does Rufus have more of a following than Hojo? Cast your votes!
Biggs and Wedge in FFVIII, hmm i don’t know… never really liked them
Biggs and Wedge – 5
Looks like it was going to go Biggs and Wedge’s way at first, but then Rufus came roaring forward. How about that? Seems Rufus has some serious support, even if he was underutilized.
Two more battles in this round. Next up…
Emperor Gestahl – Final Fantasy VI (Kefka: "Run! Run! Or you’ll be well done! YES!!!!! Poor old…… Oh well, what a worthless excuse for an Emperor!!" Gestahl: "There’ll be no one to worship us…")
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Ba’Gamnan – Final Fantasy XII (Ba???Gamnan: "Barely know, was it? Yet at a trice he goes bounding off for you. Tell me, how could that be?" Penelo: "That???s what I???d like to know! I just met him that one time???" Ba???Gamnan: "Does that tongue never stop? What if we plucked it from your head? As for you! We need Balthier alive! His corpse fetches but half the bounty!")
Ba’Gamnan – 4
Sorry, Ba’Gamnan fans.
Final battle of the round…
Cidolfus Demen Bunansa – Final Fantasy XII (Ashe: "You were a???a Judge!?" Balthier: "Part of a past I???d rather forget. It didn???t last long. I ran. I left the Judges??? and him. Cidolfus Demen Bunansa. Draklor Laboratory???s very own Doctor Cid. That???s when he lost his heart to Nethicite, lost himself. And I suppose that???s when I lost my father.")
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The Turks – Final Fantasy VII (Cloud" "They’re the Turks." Aeris: "Hmmm……" Cloud: "The Turks are an organization in Shinra. They scout for possible candidates for SOLDIER." Aeris: "This violently? I thought they were kidnapping someone." Cloud: "They’re also involved in a lot of dirty stuff on the side. Spying, murder… you know. Aeris: "They look like it." )
(Even though The Turks are probably gonna win)
(Even though The Turks are probably gonna win)
The Turks – 7
It’s… a tie. Well, that was unexpected. People seemed to think that The Turks were the favored choice, but it looks like by going for the other, they managed to make it a tie situation. Well, in any round other than the first, we look to the votes from the first round to break the tie. So let’s get the results…
Cidolfus Demen Bunansa – 8/13 – 62%
The Turks – 8/9 – 89%
So The Turks take this one by winning the tie-breaker. And that ends the second round, or quarter-finals. Let’s move straight to the semi-finals! Here’s what’s left:
Emperor Gestahl – Final Fantasy VI
Rufus Shinra – Final Fantasy VII
Ultros – Final Fantasy VI
The Turks – Final Fantasy VII
Remember, that’s only for reference and you can check the updated results in the first post of the thread. Looks like it’s between VI and VII.
Two matches to determine the final of this edition! The first of those…
Emperor Gestahl – Final Fantasy VI (Gestahl: "Is there anything you wish to hear me say?" Party: "That your war’s truly over." Gestahl: "I understand. I’ve ordered this war to be over! Now I must ask for a favor… After they devastated my Empire, the Espers headed northward, toward Crescent Island. They must be found…! We must tell them we’re no longer their enemy. After all that I have put them through, it is up to me to set things right. This is why…I need to borrow Terra’s power. Only Terra can bridge the gap between Esper and human.")
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The Turks – Final Fantasy VII (Elena: "What are we going to do!? I think it’s okay for you to ignore your orders now." Reno: "…Elena, don’t act so weak." Rude: "We’re Turks, Elena." Elena: "…Yes, sir. You’re right." Rude: "Come on, we’ve got work to do." Reno: "I’m not really up for it, but…" Elena: "Our orders were to seek you out and… …Kill. Our company may be in turmoil, but an order’s an order. That’s the will and spirit of the Turks! Believe it!" Cloud: "……" Elena: "What are you doing! Let’s go!" Cloud: "Okay, let’s end this." Reno: "I know we’ve got a weird relationship, but… We have to end this… like Turks!")
Hah, btw Agent, do you know what your doing next? Cause if you don’t I have a suggestion…
Emperor Gestahl – 4
The Turks – 9
So The Turks win over VI’s failure of an emperor by more than twice the votes. They’ve earned a spot in the finals! But will they be competing for the win against another subvillain from VII, or one from VI? Second semi-final battle is:
Rufus Shinra – Final Fantasy VII (Rufus: "How’s the job? What happened to the Airship?" Heidegger: "The long range airship is still being prepared. It should be ready in about three more days. Gya haa haa!" Rufus: "Even the Air Force’s Gelnika?" Heidegger: "…..Gya haa haa!" Rufus: "Stop that stupid horse laugh. Things are different than when father was in charge." Heidegger: "Gya…")
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Ultros – Final Fantasy VI ("Seafood soup! Muscle heads… hate ’em! Yaaooouch! Delicious morsel! Let me get my bib…!")
Ultros – 2
Massive backlash against Ultros for having won previously, making it an all-FFVII final. And here it is!
Rufus Shinra – Final Fantasy VII (Rufus: "So, I finally found you." Scarlet: "Kyaa haa hah. Kyaa haa hah. haa hah haa………….hah. This is incredible……" Heidegger: "This is the Promised Land the President had been searching for!!" Rufus: "But, I’ll be the one who gets it. Sorry, old man." Hojo: "Heh heh heh…… That land is no one’s. It’s where the Reunion will take place…… They will all gather here…… I wonder if I will see…… Sephiroth?")
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The Turks – Final Fantasy VII (Elena: "What are you doing! Let’s go!" Cloud" "No, let’s not go." Elena: "You’re showing pity!? Don’t take the Turks for fools!" Reno: "Wait, Elena." Elena: "Reno! You’re not violating the order… are you!?" Reno: "Shinra’s finished. It’s come down to this." Rude: "……" Elena: "Rude…" Reno: "Elena, you were a great Turk!" Elena: "……" Reno: "Farewell. If we both survive… If we can save our lives…" Elena: "Remember the spirit of the Turks…!" Rude: "Our mission’s finished…")
Rufus Shinra – 2
The Turks – 7
<font color="red">The Turks</font>
The next edition is Missions. FFX-2 was the first game in the main series to really feature them by name, but there’s a lot of stuff in the other games that constitutes missions, i.e. First SeeD Mission and Infiltrate the Missile Base from FFVIII. Toss out some nominations and ideas if you like and the next edition will start in a day or two.
Mission to assasinate Sorceress Edea,
Avalanche mission to nuke Mako reactor,
Cecil’s mission to deliver Bomb Ring to summoners village (burning down the place),
Tantalus mission to kidnap princess Garnet(they were hired by Cid if I remember correctly)?
There’s another kind?
Here’s the list. Remember, this is just for reference and you can find the updated results in the first post of the thread:
Cecil, Delivery Boy – Final IV
Battle on the Mountain – Final Fantasy VI
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII
This is Gonna Get Complicated – Final Fantasy VII
Save the Condor – Final Fantasy VII
Not-So-Slightly Off-Track – Final Fantasy VII
Underwater Exploits – Final Fantasy VII
First SeeD Mission – Final Fantasy VIII
Infiltrate the Missile Base – Final Fantasy VIII
Sorceress Assassination Mission – Final Fantasy VIII
Rescue Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII
Rescue at Lunatic Pandora – Final Fantasy VIII
Kidnap Princess Garnet – Final Fantasy IX
Save Princess Garnet / Dagger – Final Fantasy IX
Mission: Oeilvert – Final Fantasy IX
Operation Mi’ihen – Final Fantasy X
What Do You Mean No Final Aeon?! – Final Fantasy X
The Cactuar Connection – Final Fantasy X-2
Outrun the Leblanc Syndicate – Final Fantasy X-2
Masterpiece Theater – Final Fantasy X-2
Showdown in the Sands – Final Fantasy X-2
Tourist Trap – Final Fantasy X-2
Spring Into Action – Final Fantasy X-2
Youth League Tournament – Final Fantasy X-2
Yuna: (narrating) It probably doesn’t have anything to do with the temples or the fiends, but there have been problems here, too. Seems some machina are on the rampage.
Rikku: Let’s mangle those machina and take the reward!
Paine: Yuna?
Yuna: Let’s do it! (narrating) Okay, sounds like it’s Mission Time!
First battle:
Not-So-Slightly Off-Track – Final Fantasy VII (One of the Huge Materia missions in FFVII. The party must enter North Corel then make their way to the Mako Reactor, where the Shinra have taken control of a train and are using it to transport a Huge Materia. You must fight a thrilling series of battles and then stop the train. If you stop the train, you obtain the Huge Materia and the Ultima materia for free. If the train isn’t stopped, then the Huge Materia is lost, Corel is wrecked and the Ultima materia costs 50,000 gil.)
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What Do You Mean No Final Aeon?! – Final Fantasy X (The party must enter the temple at the ruins of Zanarkand and make their way through. Along the way, they encounter memories made by the pyreflies. The Cloister of Trials is a Tetris-like puzzle culminating in a boss fight. Bigger battle coming though– you learn that there is no final aeon because in order to obtain the final aeon, one of the summoner’s guardians must become the fayth for the final summoning. Yuna and her party put an end to this tradition by fighting and defeating the monstrous Yunalesca, who manages a total of three forms and stumps many a player with her Mega Death.)
Not-So-Slightly Off-Track for me.
I still have nightmares of that day. Such a fine looking lady as Yunalesca, transforming into one of the most hideous excrements in FF.
Hated Corel… both the mountain and the city…
What Do You Mean No Final Aeon?! – 8
So the VII mission had some support, but it looks like people really liked the Zanarkand/Yunalesca sequence.
Next up…
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII (The opening of Final Fantasy VII. Cloud aids AVALANCHE in a mission blow up one of the life-sucking Mako reactors. You must make your way through the Mako reactor with the help of Biggs, Wedge and Jessie. Barret accompanies Cloud and together they take on the Guard Scorpion boss. It’s then 10 minutes to make your out as fast as possible.)
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Rescue at Lunatic Pandora – Final Fantasy VIII (Using the heavy artillery on the Ragnarok, Squall and co. bust their way in. It’s a mission to rescue Ellone and then defeat Adel. Then, with Elle’s help, time compression begins so the party go into the future to defeat Ultimecia. Final battle with Raijin and Fujin, followed by a battle with the Mobile Type 8. Afterward, Raijin and Fujin admit that they don’t know what’s going on with Seifer anymore and that it’s sad they only have Squall to rely. Battle with Seifer, who’s now styling himself as a young revolutionary, but gets defeated by Gilgamesh, assuming the party picked up Odin. Then, Squall kidnaps Rinoa and you have to defeat Adel to rescue her. Then, Ellone takes care of things and time compression begins.)
If I could count the times I did the Bombing Mission…
And I love how Laguna events reward you with items later…
but it was not an easy choice
Rescue at Lunatic Pandora – 7
Wow, this one was closer than I thought. FFVII’s Bombing Mission wins by just one vote, but it was a very close call. Thanks for all the votes, everyone!
Next up:
Save Princess Garnet / Dagger – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane, Vivi and Freya use the teleporters on the Red Rose to make their way to Alexandria Castle. There, they end up teaming up with Steiner, who still thinks that the whole thing with Brahne is a misunderstanding. But after a final duel with Beatrix, everyone sees the truth and the party must break out of Alexandria Castle. Beatrix joins the parties’ side and together with Freya and Steiner fends off the Bandersnatch monsters. There’s also a duel with Zorn and Thorn. Zidane and Dagger escape, but Dagger is left greatly shaken by the whole ordeal…)
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Masterpiece Theater – Final Fantasy X-2 (This mission is to take on the Al Bhed’s Experiment creation in Djose Temple. It’s a fearsome machine and can be upgraded by digging for parts in the Bikanel Desert. It also uses a powerful and unique Blue Magic if fully upgraded. This one is doing fairly well in the X-2 Rumble, but how will it fare here?)
Masterpiece Theater – 2
If that battle is any indication, then X-2, the game that originated Missions, is in trouble in this rumble.
Next…
Battle on the Mountain – Final Fantasy VI (The party must split into three groups and make their way through groups of soldiers down the mountain of Narshe. Culmintes in a battle with Kefka. Aftewards, Terra transforms into Esper form and flies the coop.)
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Spring Into Action – Final Fantasy X-2 (One of the missions to obtain a Leblanc Syndicate uniform. Hilarious sequence, if played right, involving the Hot Springs of Mt. Gagazet.)
For up to date-edness. description of VI mission reminds of similar mission except fighting moogles? or was there just a moogle den south of the maze of soldiers or moogles helping in the battles in the maze? might not be describing in an easily understandable way..i think so..so then maybe just not the right game sequence.
one of the few FFX-2 missions that i actually remember;P
Battle on the Mountain pissed me off, I think I missed a rage there when I was trying to get them all and one was only encounterable during that mission…
And yeah… Masterpiece losing indicates that X-2’s definitely in trouble here. I fear it’s time may be up over at X-2 soon ๐
Spring Into Action – 5
Much closer this time. X-2 loses by just one vote, so some of the other X-2 Missions could still in with a chance.
Next we have…
Infiltrate the Missile Base – Final Fantasy VIII (The outcome considered ideal by the game is to make your way through as stealthily as possible, resulting in as much as a +2 rank increase. Selphie and any two party members other than Squall sneak into the missile base on a stolen Galbadian military vehicle. The mission? It’s not like any other. It’s not an order, nor a request from anyone. Trabia Garden has already been attacked and now the party is trying to stop a missile launch on Balamb Garden. By playing it cool, the party can avoid detection and screw around with the settings on the missile launcher, but are eventually discovered. Though they launch a self-destruct, the missiles will still launch and eventually miss Balamb Garden. If the player screws the stealth approach, then it’s immediate battle followed by sneaking back into the base to fool with the settings. Fail to take care of it within the time limit and it’s mission failure. FMV of destruction of Balamb Garden followed by Game Over.)
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Operation Mi’ihen – Final Fantasy X (Beginning on the Mushroom Rock Road, the party follows Seymour and co. to the command center. Operation Mi’ihen is an ambitious attempt to combine Al Bhed machina weapons with fiends to lure Sin. However, both Kinoc and Auron seem to know that it’s doomed to failure and, in the end, though the weapons have a strong effect on Sin, they fail it to destroy it or even do lasting damage and many are killed in the crossfire. The player’s actions or inaction determine whether either Luzzu or Gatta survive.)
Operation Mi’ihen – 9
The X mission definitely the favored choice, so we kiss the missile base mission bye-bye.
Next we have:
Underwater Exploits – Final Fantasy VII (Mission – sneak into the Junon Underwater Reactor and ultimately retrieve a huge materia. The party must make their way through the reactor, fighting soldiers and creatures of the deep. Ultimately, they run into Reno and Rude, whose priority is the Huge Materia and so they deploy the Carry Armor. The party continues and gains some cool items, then boards a submarine. You can either fight a group of soldiers– the ones in fact you met during the parade sequence, or take them hostage. Then, it’s up to Cloud to pilot the submarine in a mini-game– take out the leader sub and the stolen sub is yours to keep plus you get the Huge Materia. Fail and no Huge Materia, but you still must go back to get a sub.)
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Tourist Trap – Final Fantasy X-2 (The Cavern of the Stolen Fayth is the planned home to a Calm Lands attraction, but it’s still infested with fiends and now there are people trapped there. You must rescue them and receive key items that let you move further in the cavern and gain bonus treasure. Ultimately, it’s a fight with Yojimbo for Mission Complete.)
Tourist Trap.
As far as generic template minigames go, the other choice can be considered rumble worthy along with missile command and addictinggames.com sloppy seconds.
Tourist Trap – 3
Tourist Trap is sent to the deep– X-2 just can’t win here.
Next…
Rescue Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII (Squall and chosen party members arrive at Balamb Garden to report a missile attack, only to find things in a state of advance chaos. Everyone is running around joining either the Headmaster or Garden Master’s side and Headmaster Cid is in hiding. The party can play things as they want, but eventually find Headmaster Cid and report on the missiles. You then gain access to the MD level and eventually discover the secret of the flying Garden, saving everyone from the missiles.)
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Mission: Oeilvert – Final Fantasy IX (Oeilvert really isn’t Kuja’s kinda place, so he sends Zidane there because he knows he’s too stupid to use magic. Along with chosen party members, Zorn and Thorn ferry the group there on the Hilda Garde. At Oeilvert, magic is sealed and the party discovers some secrets, then fights a tough boss, all to gain what Kuja was "harping about," the Gulug Stone.)
Rescue Balamb Garden please~!
Rescue Balamb Garden plz.
Rescue Balamb Garden – 9
Mission: Oeilvert – 2
Oeilvert only musters a couple of votes. The VIII mission sails into the next round.
We have up next…
This is Gonna Get Complicated – Final Fantasy VII (Cloud has taken on President Rufus of Shinra Inc., but Rufus escaped in a helicopter and he couldn’t finish him off. This is gonna get complicated. He and the party escape the building and things get tense with an exciting motorcycle chase followed by a boss fight that begins with a back attack.)
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Infiltrate Bevelle – Final Fantasy X-2 (This just won the X-2 Rumble for Missions. How will it fare here. The party must infiltrate Bevelle, sneaking deep down into the depths. There, they find Baralai messing about and he takes them on. They then find that Vegnagun is gone and fight the possessed form of Bahamut in its place. The party can expect a warm welcome coming in if they gave the Awesome Sphere to New Yevon, but not so much so if the decision was made to give it to the Youth League.)
Also, I’d like to humbly ask everyone to check out the Video Game Music Rumble (Thread 66118) and please vote!
Infiltrate Bevelle – 4
Looks like X-2 is going whoosh whoosh good-bye!
Next battle:
First SeeD Mission – Final Fantasy VIII (The first mission assigned to the new SeeD members– Squall Leonhart, Selphie Tilmitt and Zell Dincht. They are to travel by underwater train to Timber, where they are to make contact with the Forest Owls using the passcode "But the owls are still around." As things get going, they find out that they’re actually assigned to support the Owls possibly indefinitely. They’re roped into a daring plan to kidnap President Deling.)
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Kidnap Princess Garnet – Final Fantasy IX (The gang of Tantalus has been assigned to kidnap the princess of Alexandria, Garnet til Alexandros. Though no one except Baku perhaps specifically knows it, this is actually a direct request from Regent Cid of Lindblum. They stage a production of I Want to be Your Canary, which is actually a distraction to carry out the kidnapping plot.)
The way the missions were choreographed in that game were one thing I liked about it.
Kidnap Princess Garnet – 3
The first SeeD mission from VIII sails on to the second round.
Next battle:
Save the Condor – Final Fantasy VII (The mini-game on Fort Condor is available throughout most of FFVII. However, during the quest for the Huge Materia, it becomes the subject of the final showdown. Win and you get the Huge Materia and also the extremely valuable Phoenix materia. Afterward, the guy there explains that what you were really protecting was the condor. They had already stashed away the materia.)
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Showdown in the Sands – Final Fantasy X-2 (There’s a menace terrorizing the camp in the Bikanel sands and it’s called Angra Mainyu. It’s time to go take it on for a big final showdown. It’s a tough fight, but it has a good reward, including Episode Complete for the section.)
X-2 has been getting whipped, does Showdown in the Sands have a chance?
Showdown in the Sands – 3
Once again, X-2 loses out. We’ve only got a couple battles left in this round! First up…
Sorceress Assassination Mission – Final Fantasy VIII (A request orchestrated by Cid Kramer and Headmaster Martine. The group, with the aid of Sharpshooter Irvine Kinneas, meets with General Caraway and takes part in a mission to assassinate Sorceress Edea. Using careful timing, they manipulate things so that Irvine can shoot the sorceress, though Squall and co. are backup if Irvine fails.)
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Outrun the Leblanc Syndicate – Final Fantasy X-2 (Here we go with X-2 again. This is the first mission of the game. The idea is to make it to the summon of Mt. Gagazet and claim the treasure sphere before Leblanc, Ormi and Logos. Nothing too dramatic happens if you don’t beat them, though you do miss out on a minor reward.)
Sorceress Assassination – 6
Outrun the Leblanc Syndicate – <font color="red">0</font>
Final battle of the first round coming just a bit later today.
Cecil, Delivery Boy – Final IV (First mission of FFIV. Cecil is given a BombRing by the King of Baron to deliver to the Village of Mist.)
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The Cactuar Connection – Final Fantasy X-2 (Available as early as Chapter 3, though you can’t actually find all the cactuars until Chapter 5. You have to hunt them down throughout Spira. There is a mini-game to play, but the important thing is just to track them down.)
The Cactuar Connection – 1
Sad. The Cactuar Connection can only manage one vote.
We are moving to round 2! Here’s what’s left in this edition:
Cecil, Delivery Boy – Final IV
Battle on the Mountain – Final Fantasy VI
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII
This is Gonna Get Complicated – Final Fantasy VII
Save the Condor – Final Fantasy VII
Underwater Exploits – Final Fantasy VII
First SeeD Mission – Final Fantasy VIII
Sorceress Assassination Mission – Final Fantasy VIII
Rescue Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII
Save Princess Garnet / Dagger – Final Fantasy IX
Operation Mi’ihen – Final Fantasy X
What Do You Mean No Final Aeon?! – Final Fantasy X
Remember, the above list is only for reference, I keep the updated results on the first post of the thread.
First battle of the second round:
Underwater Exploits – Final Fantasy VII (Cait Sith: "This’s kinda on the spur of the moment, but shouldn’t we oughta get to Junon!?" Red XIII: "I’m glad you’re back with us!" Tifa: "Let’s do our best, Cloud!" Cid: "I know how tough it is bein’ a leader, because I’ve been one. I always forget who has what materia.")
Capsule Description: Infiltrate Shinra’s Underwater Reactor in Junon and then try to steal a sub to obtain the Huge Materia.
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Rescue Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII (Squall: "Sir, I’d like to handle whatever it is that you’re planning." Headmaster Cid: "And why is that?" Squall: (…I don’t know…Because you might screw up. …Because I want to do more than announce the evacuation. Because this place is important to me, too. Because I want to find out your plan. Because this is my home. I have too many reasons. I don’t know why…Who cares?) "My feelings have nothing to do with it, sir." Headmaster Cid: "Heh heh, Quistis was right. You do have a hard time expressing your feelings." Squall: (Why bother. And what is this? Why am I being judged?) "Sir! Please tell us your plan!" Headmaster Cid: "This building used to be a shelter, long before it was remodeled into the Garden as we know it.")
Capsule Description: Balamb Garden is suffering from in-fighting by rival factions of the headmaster and Garden Master and Galbadian missiles are headed its way. Squall and co must find the headmaster, then try to uncover Garden’s secret to save it.
Underwater Exploits for me. I prefer the other game but the garden in chaos was honestly one of my least favorite parts of the game.
Rescue Balamb Garden
Underwater Exploits – 4
Rescue Balamb Garden – 6
Rescue Balamb Garden scrapes it by a couple votes!
Next up…
This is Gonna Get Complicated – Final Fantasy VII (Tifa: "Where’s Rufus?" Cloud: "I couldn’t finish ’em. Looks like this’s gonna get complicated.")
Capsule Description: With Cloud having failed to defeat Rufus, the party must now escape Shinra HQ in a thrilling sequence that includes a motorcycle chase and a boss battle that begins with the party being back-attacked.
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What Do You Mean No Final Aeon?! – Final Fantasy X (Yunalesca: "Yevon’s teachings and the Final Summoning give the people of Spira hope. Without hope, they would drown in their sorrow. Now, choose. Who will be your fayth? Who will be the one to renew Spira’s hope?" Yuna: "No one. I would have gladly died. I live for the people of Spira, and would have gladly died for them. But no more! The Final Summoning…is a false tradition that should be thrown away." Yunalesca: "No. It is our only hope. Your father sacrificed himself to give that hope to the people. So they would forget sorrow." Yuna: "Wrong. My father… My father wanted…to make Spira’s sorrow go away. Not just cover it up with lies!" Yunalesca: "Sorrow cannot be abolished. It is meaningless to try." Yuna: "My father… I loved him. So I… I will live with my sorrow, I will live my own life! I will defeat sorrow, in his place. I will stand my ground and be strong. I don’t know when it will be but someday, I will conquer it. And I will do it without…false hope." Yunalesca: "Poor creature. You would throw away hope. Well… I will free you before you can drown in your sorrow. It is better for you to die in hope than to live in despair. Let me be your liberator.")
Capsule Description: The party visits the temple of Zanarkand and encounters memories made real by the pyreflies. They eventually find Yunalesca, who informs them that there is no actual Final Aeon, but one of them must become the fayth to be transformed. Yuna won’t accept this and they fight Yunalesca.)
This is Gonna Get Complicated – 4
What Do You Mean No Final Aeon?! – 5
Very close, closer than I thought. The X mission moves on by just one vote.
Next battle is…
First SeeD Mission – Final Fantasy VIII ("To the Forest Owls, This SeeD deployment contract will last until Timber achieves independence. Please make good use of each SeeD member. I wish you the best with your objective. Please understand that this contract is an exception, and no replacement of any SeeD members can be made. Balamb Garden Headmaster Cid Kramer")
Capsule Description: The first mission is to assist the Timber Owls. The contract says "until their independence," contract Squall takes seriously, even once they’re ordered to try to assassinate the sorceress. Although he questions Rinoa’s sincerity, he agrees to follow the order.
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Save Princess Garnet / Dagger – Final Fantasy IX (Beatrix: "Steiner, it is time for you to accept the truth. …My heart is set. All this time, I have been mistaken…" Zidane: "I hate to say it, but the lady’s right, Rusty. You’d better learn to accept it." Beatrix: "…Citizens of Burmecia, please forgive me." Freya: "It is too late to seek forgiveness! …But you can still save Dagger." Zidane: "Freya…" Freya: "I tell you this because I acknowledge your powers. Help your princess." Beatrix: "I don’t know if I can… …but I will give it a try. I hope this will work.")
Capsule Description: Zidane and the others visit Alexandria Castle, where they rescue Garnet/Dagger from the clutches of Kuja, but Kuja already has what he wants.
Save Princess Garnet / Dagger – 3
Only three votes for the mission from IX, so the first SeeD mission from FFVIII proceeds.
And only three battles left in the current round! The next one is…
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII (Barret: "When we blow this place, this ain’t gonna be nothin’ more than a hunka junk. Cloud, you set the bomb." Cloud: "Shouldn’t you do it?" Barret: "Jus’ do it! I gotta watch to make sure you don’t pull nothin’." Cloud: "Fine, be my guest.")
Capsule Description: First mission of the game. Blow up the reactor. Pretty straight forward, but with a couple of twists, such as making sure to free Jessie’s leg.
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Operation Mi’ihen – Final Fantasy X (Kinoc: "Tell me, Auron. Where have you been the last ten years?" Auron: "We don’t have time for this now, do we?" Kinoc: "This plan won’t work, you know that. We’ll just let them dream a little longer." Tidus: "What?" Seymour: "Lord Kinoc…" Kinoc: "Oh, yes. Proceed.")
Capsule Description: The doomed Operation Mi’ihen is a plan to attract Sin using fiends gathered from throughout Spira and then shoot it down using machina. As Kinoc rightly predicts, it is a diaster.
Operation Mi’ihen – 2
Battle on the Mountain – Final Fantasy VI (Mog: "The three have reached Narshe, and a decisive battle is about to take place…" Elder: "I understand all of it… Except… How can WE be encouraging bloodshed?" Arvis: "I never said…that!" Elder: "Something like it.")
Capsule Description: Everyone arrives at Narshe and they confront Kefka and his soldiers on the mountain. After the battle, something strange happens to Terra.
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Sorceress Assassination Mission – Final Fantasy VIII (Edea: "This is reality. No one can help you. Sit back and enjoy the show. Rest assured, you fools. Your time will come. This is only the beginning. Let us start a new reign of terror. I will let you live a fantasy beyond your imagination."
Capsule Description: Squall and co. are hired to assassinate Sorceress Edea, whom nobody realizes at the time is under the control of a sorceress from the future. But it is a setup and really has no chance of succeeding.
I fail to see what’s so great about that mountain. Other games have had similar missions, and this one was frustrating!
Sorceress Assassination Mission – 5
All right, next battle is…
Final battle of this round…
Cecil, Delivery Boy – Final IV (Cecil: "I know it is not my place to ask, Your Majesty, and I pray ou can forgive my indiscretion. But what is it you aim to do? Your ways are not as they once were. My men’s hearts grow heavy witih misgiving." King of Baron: "As does yours?" Cecil: "Your Majesty, no, I would never doubt-" King of Baron: "Do you take me for a fool, Cecil? Do you think your treasonous whisperings escape my ears? After all I’ve done for you, Cecil…You wound me. This is most unfortunate, but I can place no trust in one who offers none in return. I hereby relieve you of command of the Red Wings." Cecil: "My liege!" King of Baron: "You will go now of the Valley of Mist instead. There is a task I would have you do. A phantom creature haunts the borders of that land – the Eidolon of Mist. You will slay it, and deliver this ring to the village that lies beyond – they will know its meaning. Be gone at first light on the morrow.")
Capsule Description: Cecil is ordered a delivery task by his King after being stripped of command.
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Save the Condor – Final Fantasy VII (Old Man: "Do you know what’s at the top of this mountain?" Barret: "Huh? Something’s up there?" Cid: "No matter how you look at it, that’s a reactor. And on top of it, is that the Condor?" Old Man: "I can see you’re very perceptive. Yes, it’s a reactor and a
condor. Looks like there’s a special materia up in the Mako reactor. Then came the condor, so Shinra dispatched the troops to get rid of it. Their plan is to get rid of the condor and the people on this mountain and to get the materia from the Mako Reactor. Unfortunately, we don’t have the ability to fight Shinra ourselves." )
Capsule Description: This mission is available throughout the game, but things come to a head during the Huge Materia sequence. Fight the Shinra in this war-strategy mini-game and save the condor to receive the Huge Materia!
Cecil, Delivery Boy – 8
Save the Condor – 1
And that ends the second round! Let’s look at what’s leftover, heading into the quarter-finals. And yes, it is a quarter-final, of sorts. More about that later…
Cecil, Delivery Boy – Final Fantasy IV
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII
First SeeD Mission – Final Fantasy VIII
Sorceress Assassination Mission – Final Fantasy VIII
Rescue Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII
What Do You Mean No Final Aeon?! – Final Fantasy X
First battle…
First SeeD Mission – Final Fantasy VIII (Squall: (I had a dream, too. It wasn’t nice, though… I dreamt I was a moron…) Train Announcement: "We will be arriving in Timber shortly. For those getting off, please be sure you have all your belongings." Selphie: "But seriously, Sir Laguna was sooo cool!" Zell: "Hey! There was a Laguna in my dream, too! He’s a Galbadian soldier, right!?" Squall: "Laguna, Kiros and Ward…" Zell: "Huh!? That’s it!" Squall: "That’s what…?" Selphie: "There’s no way we can understand this…Let’s just concentrate on our first mission!")
Capsule Description: The first mission is to assist the Timber Owls. The contract says "until their independence," contract Squall takes seriously, even once they’re ordered to try to assassinate the sorceress. Although he questions Rinoa’s sincerity, he agrees to follow the order.
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What Do You Mean No Final Aeon?! – Final Fantasy X (Auron: "Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" Kimahri: "Yuna needs Kimahri. Kimahri protect Yuna." Rikku: "Well, I’m fighting!" Wakka: "I can’t believe we’re gonna fight Lady Yunalesca! Gimme a break!" Lulu: "You can always run.")
Capsule Description: The party visits the temple of Zanarkand and encounters memories made real by the pyreflies. They eventually find Yunalesca, who informs them that there is no actual Final Aeon, but one of them must become the fayth to be transformed. Yuna won’t accept this and they fight Yunalesca.
What Do You Mean No Final Aeon?! – 5
Intriguing. At first it looked like it was going to be a runaway for First SeeD Mission, but we’ve ended up with a tie. When we have a tie in latter rounds, we go back to the results of the previous rounds to break the tie. Let’s have a look…
First SeeD Mission – 9/12, 7/10 = 75%, 70% = 72.5%
What Do You Mean No Final Aeon?! – 8/11, 5/9 = 72%, 56% = 62%
Just not enough for the X mission. It’s First SeeD Mission onto the next round on the tiebreaker.
The next battle is…
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII (Cloud: "…Cloud." Biggs: "Cloud, eh? I’m…" Cloud: "I don’t care what your names are. Once this job’s over… I’m outta here." Barret: "The hell you all doin’!? I thought I told you never to move in a group! Our target’s the North Mako Reactor. We’ll meet on the bridge in front of it. … … Ex-SOLDIER, huh? Don’t trust ya!" )
Capsule Description: First mission of the game. Get past Shinra’s security and set up a bomb to blow up a Mako reactor.
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Rescue Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII (Garden Faculty: "You three, which side are you on?" Squall: (Huh?) Garden Faculty: "Answer the question! Are you with the Garden Master, or are you with Cid!?" Squall: "I don’t understand what you’re talking about." Garden Faculty: "Do you swear you allegiance to Garden Master NORG?" <<(…I don’t get it)>> Squall: "Can you tell me what’s going on?" Garden Faculty: "I’m the one asking the questions! You’re just supposed to follow orders! Hey! What kind of attitude is that!? You’re with Cid, aren’t you!? … … NORG is the true ruler of the Garden!")
Capsule Description: Balamb Garden is in chaos. Galbadian missiles are headed its way and the entire garden is fighting in two factions– the Headmaster’s and the Garden Master’s. Make your way through the fighting, find Cid and learn the secret to save Balamb Garden!
Next battle starts in about 2 to 3 hours…
Rescue Balamb Garden – <font color="red">0</font>
Surprisingly, not a single ounce of love for Rescue Balamb Garden this time around. It doesn’t make it to the semi-finals.
Final battle of the quarter-finals…
Cecil, Delivery Boy – Final Fantasy IV (Kain: "What is it?" Cecil: "This is all my doing. Forgive me." Kain: "I told you, there’s nothing to forgive. What’s wrong? It isn’t like you to act like this." Cecil: "I did not train in the way of the dark sword so I could steal from innocents, Kain. I trained because His Majesty asked it of me." Kain: "You mustn’t blame yourself for the orders you were given. Our king had his reason, I’m sure of it.")
Capsule Description: After being stripped of rank and power, Cecil is asked to make a delivery by his king, not realizing just what it is he’s being asked to deliver.
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Sorceress Assassination Mission – Final Fantasy VIII (Irvine: "So like…Is it true that SeeDs aren’t supposed to question their mission?" Squall: (There are times I’d like to know myself. Like…now for example. But…) "What do you care?" Irvine: "So like…if you knew that your enemies were pure evil, you’d get more fired up to fight them, right?" Squall: (…An enemy that is pure evil? Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It’s our different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There’s no good or bad side. Just 2 sides holding different views.))
Capsule Description: Squall and co. are asked to assassinate Sorceress Edea with the help of sharpshooter Irvine Kinneas. They accept the mission, not realizing that they are being manipulated.)
Cecil, Delivery Boy – <font color="red">0</font>
Sorceress Assassination Mission – 4
End of the line for the classics in this edition and end of the line for the quarter-finals.
Okay, here’s what’s left…
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII
First SeeD Mission – Final Fantasy VIII
Sorceress Assassination Mission – Final Fantasy VIII
I think everybody knows what’s what by now. I want everybody to post two choices that they feel best deserve to make it to the final. So remember, you are casting a vote for two out of the three. Normal blowout conditions, etc., will apply…
Sorceress Assassination Mission – Final Fantasy VIII
Soceress Assassination Mission
P.S., you could have just asked us who we want to eliminate ๐
Sorceress Elimination passed through to the final with four votes.
Any further voters, please vote for either Bombing Mission or First SeeD Mission to make it to the final.
Sorceress Assassination Mission – Final Fantasy VIII
First SeeD Mission – 2
And now, our grand finale!
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII (Barret: "You’re right… It sounds cool sayin’ it’s to save the planet. But I was the one who blew up that Mako reactor…… Lookin’ back on it now, I can see that wasn’t the right way to
do things. I made a lot of friends and innocent bystanders suffer… …At first, it was for revenge against Shinra. For attackin’ my town. But now…… Yeah. I’m fightin’ for Marlene. For Marlene… For Marlene’s future… Yeah… I guess I want to save the planet for Marlene’s sake…" )
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Sorceress Assassination Mission (Garden Faculty: "You just happened to show up just before the mission was to be carried out. They used you. But the operation failed. The sorceress is still alive and… The sorceress retaliated. Just as we suspected. No doubt, it was the sorceress who ordered the missile attacks. Something must be done to calm the sorceress’ anger." Squall: "Wait a minute. That’s just…" Garden Faculty: "In order to do so, we needed to hand over those involved in the assassination to the sorceress. We had to show Balamb Garden’s sincerity." NORG: "Bujurururu! OFFER-THE-SeeD’s-HEAD-ON-A-SILVER-PLATTER-AND-PRETEND-WE-OBEY-THE-SORCERESS!")
Sorceress Assassination Mission – 4
Our big winner:
<font color="red"><font size="72">Sorceress Assassination Mision</font></font>
Well, that’s it for this edition. I think I’m going to take about a week’s break from this rumble. Feel free to discuss what happened in this edition or past editions and brainstorm ideas for another edition.
But anyway, yay for the Deling mission.
Final Fantasy V
Hurry! Hurry!
Danger!
The Fierce Battle
Run!
Battle with Gilgamesh
The Decisive Battle
The Last Battle
Final Fantasy VI
The Serpent Trench / The Snake Path
Save Them!
The Decisive Battle
Grand Finale?
The Fierce Battle
Dancing Mad
Final Fantasy VII
WEAPON Raid
Hurry!
Still More Fighting
Stealing the Tiny Bronco
Crazy Motorcycle Chase
Shinra Army Wages a Full-Scale Attack
Hurry Faster!
Jenova ABSOLUTE
The Birth of a God
One Winged Angel
Final Fantasy VIII
Don’t be Afraid
Force Your Way
Only a Plank Between One and Perdition
The Stage is Set
Premonition
Moving
The Legendary Beast
Maybe I’m a Lion
The Extreme
Final Fantasy IX
Feel My Blade / Living by the Blade
Battle 1
Battle 2
RUN!
Hunter’s Chance
Fairy Battle
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword
Protecting My Devotion
Turn Around and the Frog is There / The Sneaky Frog and the Scoundrel
Successive Battles
You’re Not Alone!
Skirmish of the Silver Dragons / Assault of the White Dragons
Dark Messenger
Final Battle
Final Fantasy X
Challenge
Summoned Beast Battle
Seymour Battle
Decisive Battle
Hurry!!
Normal Battle
Enemy Attack
Crisis
Final Fantasy XII
Clash on the Big Bridge
Boss Battle
Flash of Steel
Esper Battle
A Threat Drawing Near
Battle for Freedom
The End of Battle
Final Fantasy: Unlimited
The Magun Has Thawed
Firing the Magun
Underwater Voyage
Lisa: Hard Fight
A Formidable Enemy
Ciel Chocobo
Run!
Battle to Death
Airborne Assault
For right now, don’t worry about nominations or if it seems like a tune doesn’t fit the theme. All I want right now is — make me a list. If you see a tune on here that you don’t see yourself ever voting for, even in the first round, then put it on your list.
Also, please, if you’re not familiar with one of these tunes, or don’t remember really what it sounds like, please find yourself an MP3 or a MIDI before deciding to put it on your list.
Also what is "Flash of Steel"?
Also what is "Flash of Steel"?
It may be called something else on your copy of the soundtrack, but…
I think it’s one of the boss battle themes.
But… ick, wish you’d used a better reference page, a lot of those titles I don’t recognize and were re-worded, never seen them before on any other OST reference page and I’ve seen a lot of those pages!
Also, I assume "A Threat Drawing Near" is "An Imminent Threat"… well, as much as I like that one, all it really is is the default theme played in the Henne Mines. Granted, you did say you’d include chases and "intense situation", but I’m pretty sure the only intense situations there are Tiamat and Zodiark, where you get real boss themes anyway. Other than that, the only other time in the whole game that it’s used is the FMV when you enter Bahamut, and that’s it. Is it still a candidate?
As for your list, of the ones you put up, honestly, I like them all, depending on who they’re up against I could see myself voting for any of them in the first round, there isn’t really anything I can now say I know I would never choose.
All I’m asking is, seeing as I can’t really decide, is it okay if I submit my list based on what I think probably shouldn’t be here, like the example above?
Please don’t post any nominations yet. Like I said– I wasn’t planning to get this started for about a week. I wanted a break. I just wanted to get that posted to feel people out if there was anything they absolutely couldn’t see themselves voting for. So if anyone else sees anything that they don’t want, then post it now, because I have a whole bunch of items on that list, but I only want 64 for the rumble.
Also, I assume "A Threat Drawing Near" is "An Imminent Threat"… well, as much as I like that one, all it really is is the default theme played in the Henne Mines. Granted, you did say you’d include chases and "intense situation", but I’m pretty sure the only intense situations there are Tiamat and Zodiark, where you get real boss themes anyway. Other than that, the only other time in the whole game that it’s used is the FMV when you enter Bahamut, and that’s it. Is it still a candidate?
Nah, if you want to eliminate that one, you can. And yes, if anything else doesn’t seem to fit with either battle or chase, then please post that and I’ll see if I agree…
V:
Haven’t played, wouldn’t know
VI:
All seem fine
VII:
Stealing the Tiny Bronco – Just an FMV, that’s all. Though if you consider that an intense situation, ok.
Weapon Raid – I like it, but again, it’s only ever used three times in the game, two of which are FMV’s or sequences where you don’t have control, and once in Mideel but you aren’t running from it or fighting it, but again, perhaps they’re IS’s.
VIII:
Moving – Don’t get me wrong I love this one, but it’s only used twice in the game, once in the FMV where the garden becomes mobile, and the other when you’re floating around in the airlock. Make of that what you will… I was also gonna say The Stage is Set, but then I remembered it’s played when you’re chasing Lunatic Pandora around Esthar, so it works.
Also, why’s "Never Look Back" not there?
IX:
Sneaky Frog and the Scoundrel – This is just that one mini-game… but yeah I guess some mini-games qualify.
Assault of the Silver Dragon – I guess it would blend in, but unfortunately it’s only used in that FMV breaking into Memoria. Would have loved to see it in a battle or a chase, though.
X and XII all seem to work (except the one I mentioned above "An Imminent Threat"), haven’t played unlimited.
By the way, now that I think about it there are ones I would vote out in the first round, but I’ll post it later.
Imminent Threat– okay.
Unlimited– you don’t play Unlimited. It’s a TV show. You watch it.
Sorry, misunderstood, I thought nominations and the list were the same thing. So I can post the list of what I won’t vote for?
Final Fantasy V – Hurry! Hurry!
There’s nothing to it. A one-section, simple loop that, in my opinion, couldn’t compete with a single one of the other songs on the list. Otherwise, the list looks fine. I don’t know any of the Unlimited songs, so I can’t comment on those.
One suggestion: Since this is a wide-ranging group of songs, could we get YouTube links for this edition?
FFX – Crisis
FFX – Enemy Atttack
FFX – Hurry
FFVIII – The Stage is Set
That’s about it…
It’s now time for nominations! You may nominate in any of the following categories:
Normal Battle
Boss Battle
Challenge Battle
Final Boss Battle
Chase / Intense Situation
Final Fantasy III
Battle 2
This Is the Last Battle
Final Fantasy IV
Golbez, Clad in Dark
Dancing Calcobrena
Final Fantasy VII
J-E-N-O-V-A
FFVII – J-E-N-O-V-A
FFVII – Bombing Mission (with or without Opening)
FFVIII – Never Look Back
FFVIII – Dead End
FFX – Those Who Come Closer
FFX-2 – Under Bevelle
FFX-2 – Tension
FFX-2 – Demise
FFX-2 – Summoned Beast
FFX-2 – YuRiPa Battles 2 and 3
FFXII – Rebellion
FFXII – A Speechless Battle
EDIT: Added Speechless Battle, forgot about how much I like that one.
Normal Battle
Fighting – Final Fantasy VII
Don’t be Afraid – Final Fantasy VIII
Battle 1 / Battle! / Battle Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Normal Battle – Final Fantasy X
The Magun Has Thawed – Final Fantasy: Unlimited
Firing the Magun – Final Fantasy: Unlimited
Boss Battle
Battle 2 – Final Fantasy III
The Decisive Battle – Final Fantasy V
The Decisive Battle – Final Fantasy VI
Still More Fighting – Final Fantasy VII
Force Your Way – Final Fantasy VIII
Battle 2 – Final Fantasy IX
YRP Fight No. 2 – Final Fantasy X-2
Boss Battle – Final Fantasy XII
Challenge Battle
Dancing Calcobrena – Final Fantasy VI
The Fierce Battle – Final Fantasy V
Battle with Gilgamesh – Final Fantasy V
The Unforgiven – Final Fantasy VI
Save Them! – Final Fantasy VI
Grand Finale? – Final Fantasy VI
The Fierce Battle – Final Fantasy VI
J-E-N-O-V-A – Final Fantasy VII
Premonition – Final Fantasy VIII
Jenova ABSOLUTE – Final Fantasy VII
Only a Plank Between One and Perdition – Final Fantasy VIII
Never Look Back – Final Fantasy VIII
Fairy Battle – Final Fantasy IX
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX
Protecting My Devotion – Final Fantasy IX
Skirmish of the Silver Dragons / Assault of the White Dragons – Final Fantasy IX
Successive Battles – Final Fantasy IX
You’re Not Alone! – Final Fantasy IX
Challenge – Final Fantasy X
Seymour Battle – Final Fantasy X
Summoned Beast Battle / A Contest of Aeons – Final Fantasy X
YRP Fight No. 3 – Final Fantasy X-2
Let Me Blow You a Kiss – Final Fantasy X-2
Under Bevelle – Final Fantasy X-2
Tension – Final Fantasy X-2
Summoned Beast – Final Fantasy X-2
Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – Final Fantasy XII
Esper Battle – Final Fantasy XII
A Threat Drawing Near / An Imminent Threat – Final Fantasy XII
Rebellion – Final Fantasy XII
A Speechless Battle – Final Fantasy XII
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
Lisa: Hard Fight – Final Fantasy: Unlimited
A Formidable Enemy – Final Fantasy: Unlimited
Final Boss Battle
This is the Last Battle – Final Fantasy III
Golbez, Clad in Dark – Final Fantasy IV
The Last Battle – Final Fantasy V
Dancing Mad – Final Fantasy VI
The Birth of a God – Final Fantasy VII
One Winged Angel – Final Fantasy VII
The Legendary Beast – Final Fantasy VIII
Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII
The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII
Dark Messenger – Final Fantasy IX
Final Battle – Final Fantasy IX
"Otherworld" – Final Fantasy X
Decisive Battle / Final Battle – Final Fantasy X
Vegnagun Starting – Final Fantasy X-2
Demise – Final Fantasy X-2
Hametsu – Final Fantasy X-2
Battle for Freedom – Final Fantasy XII
The End of Battle – Final Fantasy XII
Battle to Death – Final Fantasy: Unlimited
Airborne Assault – Final Fantasy: Unlimited
Chase / Intense Situation
Danger! – Final Fantasy V
Run! – Final Fantasy V
The Serpent Trench / The Snake Path – Final Fantasy VI
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII
WEAPON Raid – Final Fantasy VII
Hurry! – Final Fantasy VII
Stealing the Tiny Bronco – Final Fantasy VII
Crazy Motorcycle Chase – Final Fantasy VII
Shinra Army Wages a Full-Scale Attack – Final Fantasy VII
Hurry Faster! – Final Fantasy VII
Dead End – Final Fantasy VIII
Moving – Final Fantasy VIII
Feel My Blade / Living by the Blade – Final Fantasy IX
RUN! – Final Fantasy IX
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX
Turn Around and the Frog is There / The Sneaky Frog and the Scoundrel – Final Fantasy IX
Those Who Come Closer – Final Fantasy X
Run! – Final Fantasy: Unlimited
Underwater Voyage – Final Fantasy: Unlimited
Ciel Chocobo – Final Fantasy: Unlimited
As you guys may have noticed, the categories are uneven. The categories will eventually drop away, but for now, once I run out of entrants in a category, it just goes away for the rest of the round Also, because of the huge number of entrants, I am doing two battles at a time. So remember, post a vote for both battles.
Here is the first set of battles:
From the Normal Battle category:
Battle 1 / Battle! / Battle Theme – Final Fantasy IX (This is Final Fantasy IX’s regular battle theme for random encounters in the field. It’s a fairly intense theme and generally doesn’t get old even you do a lot of battles. Find an MP3 for it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/18%20-%20Battle%20Theme.mp3).)
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Final Fantasy: Unlimited – Firing the Magun (Here is the first test for Final Fantasy: Unlimited, a Final Fantasy anime series and a new face in FF rumbles. I couldn’t find an MP3 of this, but you can hear it if you visit this YouTube clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9g2TJJhXPQ). Make sure to listen to it before making your decision.)
From the Challenge Battle category:
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX (This is the theme for boss battles with Beatrix. It’s a very popular theme and you can listen to it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/48%20-%20Mystery%20Sword.mp3).)
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Summoned Beast Battle / A Contest of Aeons – Final Fantasy X (This theme is used during the successive aeon battles that Yuna and the party must face prior to the showdown with Yu Yevon. Listen to it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/87%20-%20Summoned%20Beast%20Battle.mp3).)
Remember, you are voting for a choice from both categories!
P.S.: If anyone feels that a particular piece is not in the right category, please let me know right away.
Summoned Beast Battle / A Contest of Aeons – Final Fantasy X
and
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword.
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword
Summoned Beast Battle/A Contest of Aeons
and
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword.
and
Mystery Sword
Summoned Beast Battle / A Contest of Aeons – Final Fantasy X
Battle 1 / Battle! / Battle Theme -5
Firing the Magun – 2
Not very close here, but the FF:U tune did get a couple of votes, so FF:U might have a chance for future battles.
And…
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword – 4
Summoned Beast Battle / A Contest of Aeons – 3
Much closer there.
Next up…
From Final Boss Battle:
The Birth of a God – Final Fantasy VII (The theme for when you’re fighting "Safer" or "Seraph" Sephiroth. Hear it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/82%20-%20Birth%20of%20a%20God.mp3).)
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Dark Messenger – Final Fantasy IX (Trance Kuja’s battle theme. Hear this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/99%20-%20Dark%20Messenger.mp3).)
and from
Chase / Intense Situation
WEAPON Raid – Final Fantasy VII (Used during sequences where the Weapons are going on the rampage. Find this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/69%20-%20Weapon%20Raid.mp3).)
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Moving / Movin – Final Fantasy VIII (This is used when Balamb Garden becomes mobile. Find this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/45%20-%20Movin.mp3).)
I had to listen to Dark Messenger again cause I totally forgot what it sounded like and now it’s one of my favorites making part one a hard choice. But I think it’ll be The Birth of a God. Awesome track overlooked because of OWA, best loop ending.
Other one, easily Movin’!
WEAPON Raid – Final Fantasy VII
WEAPON Raid – Final Fantasy VII
Of course. Whoopsie!
&
Movin’ – Final Hantasy VIII
Moving / Movin – Final Fantasy VIII
Moving / Movin – Final Fantasy VIII
WEAPON Raid
The Birth of a God – 3
Dark Messenger – 4
Dark Messenger just scrapes by on that one.
and…
WEAPON Raid – 3
Movin’ – 4
Another close one, but Movin’ takes it.
Next up, from Boss Battle:
Force Your Way – Final Fantasy VIII (What can I say? It’s FFVIII’s boss battle theme. Listen to it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/10%20-%20Force%20Your%20Way.mp3).)
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Boss Battle – Final Fantasy XII (The eponymously named boss theme for the game. Listen to it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/105%20Boss%20Battle.mp3).)
And from Challenge Battle:
Save Them! – Final Fantasy VI (Not sure, but I think this theme is played during the battle on the mountain in Narshe. It’s a lively, passionate tune and definitely conveys a sense that an important battle is taking place. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff6music/23%20-%20Save%20Them!.mp3).)
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Premonition – Final Fantasy VIII (This is used in a number of sequences, including the battle with the sorceresses throughout time and the first form of Ultimecia. Listen to it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/37%20-%20Premonition.mp3).)
Boss Battle
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Premonition
Also, yayy for Movin’. Really glad it won.
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Premonition
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Premonition
Premonition
Premonition – 4
That battle is ended by blowout. If anyone else wants to vote that hasn’t voted already, please only vote on Force Your Way (VIII) vs. Boss Battle (XII).
Force Your Way – 1
Boss Battle – 3
Next up, from Challenge Battle…
Battle with Gilgamesh – Final Fantasy V (Just what it says. This theme is used for the various battles with Gilgamesh in the game. It is generally known as something of a popular favorite, but how will it do in this case? Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff5ost/203%20Battle%20With%20Gilgamesh.mp3).)
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Challenge – Final Fantasy X (This one is used during certain really intense battles in the game, battles considered more difficult than your typical boss battle. Listen to it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/80%20-%20Challenge.mp3).)
and from Chase / Intense Situation:
Stealing the Tiny Bronco / Steal the Tiny Bronco – Final Fantasy VII (This lively tune is only used once in the game, during the sequence where Cloud and co. abscond with the Tiny Bronco and end up crashing it. A sequenced set piece designed to fit with the scene in which it plays. Find this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/52%20-%20Steal%20the%20Tiny%20Bronco.mp3).)
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Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX (The music played during the Festival of the Hunt sequence. It seems that for some reason Blue Laguna doesn’t have this, so try this instead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgS0fSFGqmI).)
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Hunter’s Chance
Challenge
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Hunter’s Chance
Hunter’s Chance
Hunter’s Chance
Battle with Gilgamesh – 3
Challenge – 5
Stealing the Tiny Bronco – <font color="red">0</font> (What a shame– I love this tune.)
Hunter’s Chance – 4
Next up, from the Normal Battle section…
Fighting – Final Fantasy VII (The standard battle theme for random encounters within Final Fantasy VII. As you would expect for a theme that you have to listen to throughout most of the game, effort was put into it and it plays well. Find this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/10%20-%20Fighting.mp3).)
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Normal Battle – Final Fantasy X (Think that a normal battle theme has no chance of winning this edition of the rumble? Then you might want to consider that this tune actually took second place in the recent Final Fantasy X music rumble. It’s a very strong regular battle theme a lot of people seem to enjoy. Of course, its first trial here will be to make it past this first round. If you need to listen to this one, you can do it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/09%20-%20Normal%20Battle.mp3).)
And from the Final Boss Battle section…
The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII (This theme features the "Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinosec" phrase heard throughout the game as an opener. It is a rather weird theme, but very intense and used for the final form of Ultimecia. This one is here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/71%20-%20The%20Extreme.mp3) if you need it.)
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The Battle for Freedom – Final Fantasy XII (This is the battle theme used for the final form of Vayne. it carries strains of the game’s main theme within it and seems to carry well throughout the battle. I also think it has a rather intriguing and to-the-point title. This one can be found here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/416%20The%20Battle%20for%20Freedom.mp3) for a listen.)
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The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII
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The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII
The Battle For Freedom
Normal Battle (X)
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The Extreme
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The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII
The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII
The Extreme – Final Fantasy VII
The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII
Fighting – 3
Normal Battle – 5
"Normal Battle," the runner-up in the X Music Rumble clears its first hurdle. And for the other battle…
The Extreme – 7
The Battle for Freedom – 1
Not even close here. XII’s final boss battle theme only manages a single vote.
All right, next up, again from Final Boss Battle:
One Winged Angel – Final Fantasy VII ("Estuans interius, Ira vehementi
Estuans interius, Ira vehementi, Sephiroth! Sephiroth!" This popular theme is used for the second film of Sephiroth, Safer/Seraph Sephiroth. It was also featured in the Kingdom Hearts series and any number of versions of it have been made. If you play the PC version of the game, you can only hear the music– there is no singing. Listen to this one… ah, screw it. If you don’t know what this one sounds like, then you probably shouldn’t be voting here. And if you still need to hear it, just put in a Google search for "One Winged Angel" and you’re sure to find it quickly.)
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Demise – Final Fantasy X-2 (If I’m not mistaken, this is Shuyin’s battle theme. "1000 years of agony!" Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffx2music/2/26%20-%20Demise.mp3).)
and from
Chase / Intense Situation:
Dead End – Final Fantasy VIII (I believe this one is first used during the FMV where Quistis shoots down the X-ATM092, assuming you activate that FMV> Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/13%20-%20Dead%20End.mp3).)
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Underwater Voyage – Final Fantasy: Unlimited (This is probably the liveliest of the tunes listed in this section, but I feel that it fits the theme well enough, so I decided to include it. To be honest, I also feel it’s a way cool tune, and so here it is. I know most of you probably have never heard it, so I’m providing a copy of it here (http://agent0042.fileburst.com/uvoyage.mp3). Make sure to save this one– I’m not sure if it will let you stream it.)
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Underwater Voyage
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Dead End
Fingers crossed for Demise… heh. Not letting it go down without a fight.
Dead End
Underwater Voyage – Final Fantasy: Unlimited
FFX2 theme victorious over famous OWA… I just have to see that O_O
Underwater Voyage – Final Fantasy: Unlimited
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Dead End.
Dead End – FFVIII
One Winged Angel – 4
Demise – 4
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Dead End – 4
Underwater Voyage – 4
Wow, a tie for both battles. Okay, here’s how this is going to work. Next person to come in with a vote that hasn’t already voted breaks the tie for both battles. I’ll leave that open for 24 hours and if nobody has broken it, then we go to a coin toss. So if there’s anyone here that feels strongly about this outcome, PM a friend, do whatever you need to do and let’s see if we can get this tie broken.
Result 1 – One Winged Angel (Sorry, Zak.)
Result 2 – Dead End
And that’s that taken care of. Next up…
From Boss Battle:
The Fierce Battle – Final Fantasy V (FFV’s battle theme for standard boss battles. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff5ost/119%20The%20Fierce%20Battle.mp3).)
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Battle 2 / Boss Battle Theme – Final Fantasy IX (And here’s FFIX’s boss battle theme. You can listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/21%20-%20Boss%20Battle%20Theme.mp3).)
and from Challenge Battle:
The Fierce Battle – Final Fantasy VI (Looks like FFVI has a "Fierce Battle" theme too, but in this case, it’s used for challenge boss battles, such as the big battle with Atma Weapon. Listen to this theme here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff6music/48%20-%20The%20Fierce%20Battle.mp3).)
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Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII (Gilgamesh battle theme from FFV remixed. Played during the big battle with this rather tough Elite Mark. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/313%20Clash%20on%20the%20Big%20Bridge%20~FFXII%20V ersion~.mp3).)
However, I go for:
Battle 2 / Boss Battle Theme – Final Fantasy IX
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The Fierce Battle – Final Fantasy VI
Battle 2 (IX)
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Clash On the Big Bridge – FFXII Version
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Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
The Fierce Battle – Final Fantasy VI
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
Clash on the Big Bridge
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Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
Battle 2 / Boss Battle Theme – 6
Pretty one-sided there.
The Fierce Battle – Final Fantasy VI – 2
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII – 5
Only slightly less one-sided for this one. Next up…
From Challenge Battle:
Fairy Battle – Final Fantasy IX (I don’t know if the fairy battles are really challenges, but I didn’t know how else to categorize this. You can listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/44%20-%20Fairy%20Battle.mp3).)
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Let Me Blow You a Kiss – Final Fantasy X-2 (The theme for battles with Leblanc and her henchmen Ormi and Logos. Also known as "I’ll Give You Something Hot!" Listen to it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffx2music/1/13%20-%20I%27ll%20Give%20You%20Something%20Hot!.mp3).)
and from Final Boss Battle…
Golbez, Clad in Dark (Battle theme for Golbez. Listen to it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-iv-ost-soundtrack/124%20Golbeza,%20Clad%20in%20the%20Dark.mp3).)
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Decisive Battle / Final Battle – Final Fantasy X (Used for the very last battle, the one with Yu Yevon. I seem to recall this being popular in the FFX Rumble. Listen to it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/88%20-%20Decisive%20Battle.mp3).)
P.S.: Could the person who nominated "This is the Last Battle – Final Fantasy III" please check this page (http://bluelaguna.net/music/final-fantasy-iii-3-ost-soundtrack/mp3s.php) and tell me which tune they were referring to?
Fairy Battle
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Decisive Battle
And yes, Decisive Battle I believe came in third. Or fourth, it was in the final four I remember that.
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Decisive Battle
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Golbez, Clad in Dark – FFIV
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Golbez, Clad in Dark
@Agent: The Blue Laguna link goes to the DS version of the album, which has "This Is the Final Battle" split into three tracks, unlike how the song appeared on the OSV (http://www.rpgfan.com/soundtracks/ff3ost/index.html). You can hear the original NES song in full here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D02Os9cTIYU), albeit with sound effects from game play.
Golbez, Clad In Dark
Decisive Battle / Final Battle – Final Fantasy X
and
Golbez, Clad in Dark – FFIV
Fairy Battle – 5
Let Me Blow You a Kiss – 3
and
Golbez, Clad in Dark – 4
Decisive Battle – 4
We have a tie on the second battle. First person that hasn’t already voted to vote within approximately the next 12-18 hours breaks the tie. If nobody else votes on that battle, I go to a coin toss.
From Normal Battle–
Don’t be Afraid – Final Fantasy VIII (VIII’s music for regular in the field battles. Find this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/04%20-%20Don%27t%20Be%20Afraid%20%28Orchestrated%29.mp3). [Orchestrated version])
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YRP Fight No. 3 – Final Fantasy X-2 (And this is X-2’s normal battle music. This one you can find here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffx2music/1/10%20-%20YuRiPa%20Battle%203.mp3).)
and from Chase / Intense Situation…
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII (The music used the opening bombing mission. I suppose the opening can be included if you want. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/02%20-%20Opening%20Theme%20-%20Bombing%20Mission.mp3), with the opening.)
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Feel My Blade / Living by the Blade – Final Fantasy IX (This is used during the play "I Want to be Your Canary," I believe during the big battle sequence with Steiner and the bomb. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/06%20-%20Feel%20My%20Blade.mp3).)
YRP Battle 3
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Bombing Mission
Also for those wondering why X-2’s NORMAL battle music is numbered as such, it’s because the other two you’re forced to hear first. It’s confusing.
and
Bombing Mission.
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Feel My Blade
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Feel My Blade
and
Bombing Mission
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Bombing Mission.
Bombing Mission
Feel My Blade / Living by the Blade – Final Fantasy IX
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII
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Feel My Blade
YRP Fight No.3 – 4
Somewhat easy victory there for VIII’s battle theme.
Bombing Mission – 7
Feel My Blade – 5
Much closer on that one.
Next up…
From Challenge Battle:
Jenova ABSOLUTE – Final Fantasy VII (The theme when fighting the final form of Jenova, Jenova Synthesis, in the Northern Cave. This one can be found here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/81%20-%20Jenova%20Absolute.mp3).)
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Esper Battle – Final Fantasy XII (To obtain espers in Final Fantasy XII, you have to fight them and this is the epic theme used when you do. Listen to it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/302%20Esper%20Battle.mp3).)
And from Chase / Intense Situation
Run! – Final Fantasy V (Sometimes in Final Fantasy games, there are situations where you have to run. There are several such situations in FFV and this theme is used during those sequences. Listen to it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff5ost/123%20Run!.mp3).)
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Ciel Chocobo – Final Fantasy: Unlimited (The only chocobo theme in this edition of the rumble. And generally, anytime that Chobi is transforming into the Legendary Ciel Chocobo, it’s an intense situation. This theme is played during his transformation sequence and the latter part of it [where it transitions into the familiar chocobo theme] is played as Chobi either spirits Lisa, Ai and Yu away to safety or takes action, depending on the situation. Listen to this one, provided by me, here (http://agent0042.fileburst.com/cielc.mp3), but you may have to download it, because sometimes it doesn’t let you stream it. Seems to be working okay for me right now, though, so give it a try if you want.)
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Run!
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Run!
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Ciel Chocobo
First time voting for something I haven’t heard before.
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Run.
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Ciel Chocobo
Run! – Final Fantasy V
Run!
Jenova ABSOLUTE – 4
Esper Battle – 4
Run! – 6
Ciel Chocobo – 2
Looks like we have another tie. Anybody else for a vote? Come on, I know there are more voters than this, so if there’s somebody that hasn’t already voted that wants to, get your vote in, and quick!
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Run!
Next up…
From Boss Battle…
The Decisive Battle – Final Fantasy VI (FFVI’s boss battle music used in most normal boss battle situations. Listen to this here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff6music/24%20-%20The%20Decisive%20Battle.mp3).)
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Still More Fighting – Final Fantasy VII (And VII’s boss theme, first heard, I believe, when you fight the Air Buster. This one can be found here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/20%20-%20Still%20More%20Fighting.mp3).)
And from Final Boss Battle…
The Legendary Beast – Final Fantasy VIII (Used for the first Griever battle, non-merged-form, if I’m not mistaken. This one is here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/69%20-%20The%20Legendary%20Beast.mp3).)
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"Otherworld" – Final Fantasy X (Played during the big blitzball FMV sequence at the beginning of the game, but it’s also recycled for the Braska’s Final Aeon / Jecht battle. "Go now, if you want it, the Otherworld awaits you! Don’t you give up on it, you bite the hand that feeds you." The song is performed by Alexander O. Smith, the English version anyway, one of Square-Enix’s localizers. This one is here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/05%20-%20Otherworld.mp3).)
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Otherworld
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The Legendary Beast
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Otherworld
The Decisive Battle my favourite battle song of all time, a great song for an awesome game
And
Otherworld
And
Otherworld
Otherworld
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The Leendary Beast.
Otherworld – Final Fantasy X
Still More Fighting – 7
and…
The Legendary Beast – 3
Otherworld – 8
Next up, from Challenge Battle…
Grand Finale? – Final Fantasy VI (Used for the Ultros / Orthros battle in the Opera House. Cue music and let the battle begin! Lively and fast-paced theme. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff6music/35%20-%20Grand%20Finale.mp3).)
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Seymour Battle – Final Fantasy X (Used exclusively for the battle with final form Seymour, Seymour Omnis. Find this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/85%20-%20Seymour%20Battle.mp3).)
And from Final Boss Battle…
Dancing Mad – Final Fantasy VI ("The end comes… beyond chaos." Comprising the full and epic Kefka battle and over 17 minutes in length. Certain loops play within various parts of the battle, but you can hear the full set in sequence here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff6music/59%20-%20Dancing%20Mad.mp3).)
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Final Battle – Final Fantasy IX (Used for the big final battle with… surprise, Necron! It seems that this isn’t on Blue Laguna, so trythis here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j17e1ExDDus).)
Seymour Battle
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Final Battle
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Dancing Mad (Not a major fan of either Dancing mad or Final Battle)
Dancing Mad
Dancing Mad
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Dancing Mad
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Dancing Mad
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Dancing Mad
Dancing Mad
FFVI love~
Final Battle
Grand Finale? – 4
Seymour Battle – 9
and…
Dancing Mad – 9
Final Battle – 4
Same split in both battles, though people who voting for "Grand Finale" tended to also vote for "Dancing Mad," sticking with FFVI.
Okay, next up…
From Boss Battle:
Battle 2 – Final Fantasy III (This is FFIII’s boss battle theme. It’s been so long since I’ve played III, I don’t really remember it. But here it is (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-iii-3-ost-soundtrack/27%20Battle%202.mp3).)
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YRP Fight No. 2 – Final Fantasy X-2 (X-2’s boss battle theme– listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffx2music/1/05%20-%20YuRiPa%20Battle%202.mp3).)
and from Intense Situation…
Shinra Army Wages a Full-Scale Attack – Final Fantasy VII (IIRC, this is used both for intense situations and walking about music in certain areas of the game. I think it may have been used when the party was climbing up the rope to the Shinra headquarters. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/68%20-%20A%20Full%20Scale%20Attack.mp3).)
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Under Bevelle – Final Fantasy X-2 (I seem to recall this one being popular in the FFX-2 music rumble. I believe this one is used during one of the battles Under Bevelle specifically, though I could be wrong. This one can be found here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffx2music/2/10%20-%20Under%20Bevelle.mp3).)
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Shinra Army Wages a Full-Scale Attack
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Shinra Army Wages a Full-Scale Attack.
I really like them both.
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Shinra Army Wages a Full-Scale Attack
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Under Bevelle
Don’t really care about the normal battle, but Under Bevelle blows this full scale attack stuff out of the water.
Shinra Army Wages a Full Scale Attack
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Shinra Army Wages a Full-Scale Attack
Shinra Army Wages a Full-Scale Attack – Final Fantasy VII
Battle 2 – 7
YRP Fight 2 – 2
Didn’t expect that one. And from the other category…
Shinra Army Wages a Full Scale Attack – 8
Under Bevelle – 1
That one was rather more expected. Next up…
From Challenge Battle:
J-E-N-O-V-A – Final Fantasy VII (From what I remember, this is used during the first and third Jenova fights. It’s not used during the second because Aeris’s Theme is played throughout and, of course, it’s not used for the final Jenova battle. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/37%20-%20J-E-N-O-V-A.mp3).)
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Successive Battles – Final Fantasy IX (Again, assuming I’m remembering correctly, this is used for the sequence involving the four guardians of the shrines. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/89%20-%20Successive%20Battles.mp3).)
And from Chase / Intense Situation
Skirmish of the Silver Dragons / Assault of the White Dragons – Final Fantasy IX (Used for the FMV sequence leading up to the white dragon battle, but not for the actual fight itself, as has been pointed out. This one just did fairly well over at the IX rumble. Find it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/96%20-%20Assault%20of%20the%20White%20Dragons.mp3).)
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Rebellion – Final Fantasy XII (Pretty sure this is used when the entire party is running around the Dreadnought Leviathan. Possibly other times as well. Find this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/129%20Rebellion.mp3).)
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Assault of the White Dragons
Skirmish of the Silver Dragons / Assault of the White Dragons
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Rebellion.
Rebellion – Final Fantasy XII
J-E-N-O-V-A
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Rebellion/Riot
Rebellion
Rebellion
J-E-N-O-V-A – 8
Successive Battles – 3
and
Skirmish of the Silver Dragons – 6
Rebellion – 5
Good battles there. Next up…
Let’s stick with those same categories for the next set of battles…
From Challenge Battle:
The Unforgiven – Final Fantasy VI (This is FFVI’s last shot in this section. This is used in several challenging battles within the game and can be heard here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff6music/14%20-%20The%20Unforgiven.mp3).)
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Final Fantasy XII – A Speechless Battle (I remember this being used with the showdown in the Lhusu Mines against Ba’Gamnan, among others. Listen to this here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/220%20A%20Speechless%20Battle.mp3), though as with certain others with this soundtrack, there are parts that don’t sound quite like they do in the game.
And from Chase / Intense Situation:
Crazy Motorcycle Chase – Final Fantasy VII (Extremely popular piece used during the motorcycle chase sequence as the party flees from Shinra Headquarters. Those that want to hear it again later on can play the motorcycle game at the Gold Saucer. This one can be found here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/22%20-%20Crazy%20Motorcycle%20Chase.mp3).)
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Those Who Come Closer – Final Fantasy X (This unusual tune is heard during certain chase sequences, most notably when the party has been run out of the Macalania Temple. Find this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/57%20-%20Those%20Who%20Come%20Closer.mp3).)
A Speechless Battle
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Those Who Come Closer
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Those Who Come Closer
Crazy Motorcycle Chase – Final Fantasy VII
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Those Who Come Closer
Crazy Motorcycle Chase
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Crazy Motorcycle Chase.
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Those Who Come Closer
Those Who Come Closer
The Unforgiven – 7
A Speechless Battle – 2
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Crazy Motorcycle Chase – 4
Those Who Come Closer – 5
Next up…
From Challenge Battle:
Dancing Calcobrena (Somewhat of a comic theme used for the Calcobrena battle. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-iv-ost-soundtrack/212%20Dancing%20Doll%20Calcobrena.mp3).)
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You’re Not Alone! – Final Fantasy IX (For the sequence of battles involving the messed-up Zidane in Garland’s "haunted mansion." This one can be found here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/93%20-%20You%27re%20Not%20Alone!.mp3).)
and from Final Boss Battle:
The Last Battle – Final Fantasy V (For the battle against Neo-ExDeath, who shows up to menace your party once you’ve defeated ExDeath, Normal Strength. This one is here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff5ost/217%20The%20Last%20Battle.mp3).)
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Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII (Used for the battle against merged Ultimecia/Griever. This one is here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/70%20-%20Maybe%20Im%20a%20Lion.mp3).)
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Maybe I’m a Lion
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Maybe I’m a Lion
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Maybe Im A Lion.
The Last Battle – Final Fantasy V
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Maybe I’m a Lion
Maybe I’m a Lion
+
Maybe I’m a Lion
The Last Battle
Maybe I’m a Lion
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Maybe I’m a Lion
You’re Not Alone! – 9
and…
The Last Battle – 2
Maybe I’m a Lion – 10
Next up…
From Challenge Battle:
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII (Okay, so this is really more of a normal battle theme, but I turns out that I accidentally listed a theme in this section that shouldn’t have been there and so I had an extra slot. This is used for all battles during the Laguna sequences. Very popular battle theme that was performed at the 2002 Final Fantasy concert. Listen to this one (as it sounds in-game) here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/19%20-%20The%20Man%20With%20The%20Machine%20Gun.mp3).)
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Summoned Beast – Final Fantasy X-2 (This one is used for the battles with the Dark Aeons [returned by Shuyin’s hatred] in FFX-2. This one can be found here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffx2music/2/16%20-%20Summoned%20Beast.mp3).)
and from Chase / Intense Situation…
Final Fantasy VII – Hurry! (Used during in-field situations where there’s some kind of clock running, etc. One instance where I recall it being used is during the Corel train chase sequence. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/07%20-%20Hurry.mp3).)
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RUN! – Final Fantasy IX (IX’s theme used for situations where you have to make a bolt for it. Pretty sure this is used in the Evil Forest, I think this one is also used during the escape from Alexandria sequence. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/23%20-%20RUN!.mp3).)
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Final Fantasy VII – Hurry!
Hurry! – Final Fantasy VII
And
RUN!
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RUN!
and
Hurry!
Hurry!
And
RUN!
and
RUN!
and
Final Fantasy VII – Hurry!
The Man With the Machine Gun – 8
Summoned Beast – 2
and…
Hurry! – 6
RUN! – 4
Next up….
I think I’ll actually do two battles from the same category…
Chase / Intense Situation…
The Serpent Trench / The Snake Path – Final Fantasy VI (This is played, naturally, when you’re traveling the Serpent Trench. It’s also used as you’re traveling to the Ancient Castle that has Odin / Raiden. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff6music/19%20-%20The%20Serpent%20Trench.mp3).)
vs.
Never Look Back – Final Fantasy VIII (This is used in several intense situations / chase sequences from the game. For example, I think it’s used as the party is escaping from the X-ATM092. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/12%20-%20Never%20Look%20Back.mp3).)
And…
Danger! – Final Fantasy V (Used in certain situations in this game where the party is facing imminent peril. I seem to recall it being used in certain XDeath scenes. This one can be found here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff5ost/118%20Danger!.mp3).)
vs.
Vegnagun Starting – Final Fantasy X-2 (Used when, well, Vegnagun is starting / Vegnagun battle. Very nice piano opening. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffx2music/2/22%20-%20Vegnagun%20Starting.mp3).)
and
Danger!
and
Vegnagun Starting – Final Fantasy X-2
and
Danger!
Vegnagun Starting
and
Danger!
Vegnagun Starting
Vegnagun Starting – Final Fantasy X-2
Possible first X-2 victory here to make it past the first round?
Never Look Back – 2
and…
Danger! – 3
Vegnagun Starting – 6
Yep! First victory for X-2 in this edition!
Next up, from Normal Battle…
Final Fantasy VI – Battle Theme (FFVI’s normal battle theme, used in the games normal battles. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff6music/05%20-%20Battle%20Theme.mp3).)
vs.
The Magun Has Thawed – Final Fantasy: Unlimited (I don’t have an MP3 for this, but it’s the music that plays while Kaze is describing the Soil Charge he’s going to use to create his summon. You can hear it playing in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYsIYzOpTLI).)
and from Challenge Battle
Protecting My Devotion – Final Fantasy IX (This is the music that plays when Steiner and Beatrix are fighting Mistodons together in Alexandria. It’s essentially an upbeat version of Beatrix’s theme, "Rose of May." Hear this here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/76%20-%20Protecting%20My%20Devotion.mp3).)
vs.
Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – Final Fantasy XII (Another FFXII theme used during certain challenging battles within the game. If I remember correctly, it’s used during the several of the fights against members of the Empire. You can hear a bit of the game’s main theme within this one. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/202%20Clash%20of%20Swords.mp3).)
and
Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – Final Fantasy XII This one was tough…
and
Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – Final Fantasy XII This one was tough…
Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – Final Fantasy XII
Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords
Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords
Protecting My Devotion
Protecting My Devotion
Battle Theme – 9
The Magun Has Thawed – 0
and
Protecting My Devotion – 4
Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – 5
Well, rather less one-sided on the one battle than I thought.
From Challenge Battle
Desperate Fight – Final Fantasy XII (I’m not entirely certain, but I think this may have during the battle with Cid and the Rooks, among other instances. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/305%20Desperate%20Fight.mp3).)
vs.
A Formidable Enemy – Final Fantasy: Unlimited (I’ve pretty much given up on the idea of anything form FF:U winning a battle, but I’ve provided this here (http://agent0042.fileburst.com/afu.mp3) for those that want to give it a shot.)
and from Chase / Intense Situation
Hurry Faster! – Final Fantasy VII (This is the music for the battle arena. I seem to recall that it’s also used during the sequence where you fight your way to get inside the rocket to get to the Huge Materia. Maybe a couple other instances as well. Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/75%20-%20Hurry%20Faster.mp3).)
vs.
Turn Around and the Frog is There / The Sneaky Frog and the Scoundrel – Final Fantasy IX / Look Back, See the Frog! (One of the few quirky themes included in this edition of the rumble. This is when you’re playing as Cid who’s a frog and you have to get the key. This is one of those that isn’t on Blue Laguna for some reason, but you can find it on YouTube here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2licmGH31xQ).)
We’re getting very close to the end of the round now.
and
Hurry Faster!
Hurry Faster!
and
Hurry Faster!
and
Turn Around and the Frog is There / The Sneaky Frog and the Scoundrel
and
Turn Around and the Frog is There / The Sneaky Frog and the Scoundrel
Hurry Faster!
Desperate Fight – 6
A Formidable Enemy – 0
and
Hurry Faster! – 4
Turn Around and the Frog is There -2
Next up…
From Challenge Battle…
Only a Plank Between One and Perdition – Final Fantasy VIII (This is played when escaping from the D-District Prison. However, as far as battle situations go, this is the battle music for Bahamut. Listen to this one at YouTube here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HrEMVNkiok).)
vs.
Lisa: Hard Fight – Final Fantasy: Unlimited (As I mentioned in the previous battle, I’ve all but given up on the idea of anything FF:U winning, but here (http://agent0042.fileburst.com/lisahard.mp3) this is, if you want to listen to it.)
From Final Boss Battle…
This is the Last Battle / Battle to the Death – Final Fantasy III (Thank you to arthurgolden, who provided me with this link. You can listen to this here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC5G0PdvGkg) at YouTube. It’s unusual– it doesn’t feel as intense to me as your typical FF final battle theme. It is used during the battle with the Cloud of Darkness.)
vs.
Battle to Death – Final Fantasy: Unlimited (How interesting. FF:U also has a battle track called "Battle to the Death." This is used during the Gun Dragon / Sword Dragon sequence, if I recall correctly. I’ve provided this one here (http://agent0042.fileburst.com/btdeath.mp3).)
and
This is the Last Battle / Battle to the Death.
This is the Last Battle / Battle to the Death – Final Fantasy III
and
This is the Last Battle / Battle to the Death.
This is the Last Battle / Battle to the Death
and
This is the Last Battle / Battle to the Death.
Lisa: Hard Fight – <font color="red">0</font>
This is the Last Battle / Battle to the Death – 5
Battle to the Death – <font color="red">0</font>
And now, the final battles of the first round…
From Final Boss Battle:
Hametsu / Destruction – Final Fantasy X-2 (This is used for the final Vegnagun battle. Very epic theme for a boss that most people don’t consider very epic. This one is here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffx2music/2/25%20-%20Destruction.mp3).
vs.
Airborne Assault – Final Fantasy: Unlimited (One of the livelier, more joyful themes included in this edition of the rumble. Take a listen here (http://agent0042.fileburst.com/airborne.mp3), if you like.)
and from Chase / Intense Situation…
Tension – Final Fantasy X-2 (This is used during certain tense scenes in the game, though I can’t recall any specific ones at the moment. You can listen to it here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffx2music/1/31%20-%20Tension.mp3), but this is one of those cases where the soundtrack music sounds rather different from the in-game version.)
vs.
Run! – Final Fantasy: Unlimited (FF:U’s theme for chase situations. Blah blah blah, seemingly no chance of winning, listen here (http://agent0042.fileburst.com/ffurun.mp3) if you want.)
Tension – Final Fantasy X-2
Blah blah blah, seemingly no chance of winning,
Well , it’s a fight between FFX-2 and FF:Unlimited so who knows?
Run! – Final Fantasy: Unlimited
and
Tension – Final Fantasy X-2
Run!
Run!
and
Tension
Airborne Assault – 3
Tension – 4
Run! – 4
Well, what do you know? An FF:U tune has an actual shot at winning. I don’t want to have to break a tie with a coin-toss unless I have to. Could somebody who hasn’t already voted please break the tie? I’ll give up to 24 hours…
Okay, here’s what we have for Round 2…
Current Edition – Battle and Intense Situation Themes – Round 2
Normal Battle
Final Fantasy VI – Battle Theme
Don’t be Afraid – Final Fantasy VIII
Battle 1 / Battle! / Battle Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Normal Battle – Final Fantasy X
Boss Battle
Battle 2 – Final Fantasy III
Still More Fighting – Final Fantasy VII
Battle 2 – Final Fantasy IX
Boss Battle – Final Fantasy XII
Challenge Battle
The Unforgiven – Final Fantasy VI
J-E-N-O-V-A – Final Fantasy VII
Jenova ABSOLUTE – Final Fantasy VII
Premonition – Final Fantasy VIII
Only a Plank Between One and Perdition – Final Fantasy VIII
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII
Fairy Battle – Final Fantasy IX
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX
You’re Not Alone! – Final Fantasy IX
Challenge – Final Fantasy X
Seymour Battle – Final Fantasy X
Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – Final Fantasy XII
Desperate Fight – Final Fantasy XII
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
Final Boss Battle
This is the Last Battle / Battle to the Death – Final Fantasy III
Dancing Mad – Final Fantasy VI
One Winged Angel – Final Fantasy VII
Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII
The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII
Dark Messenger – Final Fantasy IX
"Otherworld" – Final Fantasy X
Decisive Battle / Final Battle – Final Fantasy X
Hametsu / Destruction – Final Fantasy X-2
Chase / Intense Situation
Run! – Final Fantasy V
The Serpent Trench / The Snake Path – Final Fantasy VI
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII
Hurry! – Final Fantasy VII
Shinra Army Wages a Full-Scale Attack – Final Fantasy VII
Hurry Faster! – Final Fantasy VII
Dead End – Final Fantasy VIII
Moving – Final Fantasy VIII
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX
Skirmish of the Silver Dragons / Assault of the White Dragons – Final Fantasy IX
Those Who Come Closer – Final Fantasy X
Vegnagun Starting – Final Fantasy X-2
Run! – Final Fantasy: Unlimited
I’m not ready to drop the categories yet, so we do battles of three for those sections with an uneven number. We’ll have to see. For now, though, first up, from Challenge Battle…
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII (Laguna: "Ahhhh! I have to go to the bathroooom! … … Arghhhh! I’m gettin’ hungry! … … Darn it! I wanna scratch the bottom of my feeeet! … … Uhhhh! The tip o’my nose itchessss!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/19%20-%20The%20Man%20With%20The%20Machine%20Gun.mp3).)
vs.
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII (Gilgamesh: "Fools! You face the mightiest swordsman in all Ivalice!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/313%20Clash%20on%20the%20Big%20Bridge%20~FFXII%20V ersion~.mp3).)
and from Chase / Intense Situation…
Moving – Final Fantasy VIII (Squall: "We’re moving!?" Headmaster Cid: "I see…So this is the secret…" Rinoa: "…Wow!" Irvine: "…This is amazing…" Zell: "Oh man…! This is awesome!" Quistis: "Unbelievable." Headmaster Cid: "I wonder what is going on outside?" Zell: "Squall, let’s go check it out!" Quistis: "Squall, let’s go see." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/45%20-%20Movin.mp3).)
vs.
Those Who Come Closer – Final Fantasy X (Tromell: "The Guado take care of Guado affairs." Kimahri: "Away!" Auron: "Run!" … … O’aka: "You’ve really done it now! Wanna buy something, just in case?" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/57%20-%20Those%20Who%20Come%20Closer.mp3).)
aaaaand my other will be Those Who Come Closer. Really was a tough choice.
and
Closer.
and
Closer.
*Also, the link to Clash on the Big Bridge isn’t working because of two extra spaces between "V" and "ersion."
and
Moving – Final Fantasy VIII
Those Who Come Closer
I can’t figure out what’s causing it. Anyways– http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/313%20Clash%20on%20the%20Big%20Bridge%20~FFXII%20V ersion~.mp3
Those Who Come Closer
and
Closer.
Moving
Those Who Come Closer – Final Fantasy X
Those Who Come Closer – Final Fantasy X
Clash on the Big Bridge – 4
Moving – 2
Those Who Come Closer – 8
Next up…
From Normal Battle:
Don’t Be Afraid – Final Fantasy VIII (Quistis: "My job is to support you in battle. Everything else is up to you." Squall: "Fine." Listen to an orchestrated version here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/04%20-%20Don%27t%20Be%20Afraid%20%28Orchestrated%29.mp3).)
vs.
Normal Battle – Final Fantasy X (Tidus: "Newbie here!" Wakka: "So-rry!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/09%20-%20Normal%20Battle.mp3).)
and from Final Boss Battle:
Dancing Mad – Final Fantasy VI (Kefka: "The end comes… beyond chaos." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff6music/59%20-%20Dancing%20Mad.mp3).)
vs.
Decisive Battle / Final Battle – Final Fantasy X (Yuna: "Wait! Sin is reborn when Yu Yevon merges with an aeon, isn’t that right? If I summon an aeon, Yu Yevon will join with it. But at first, it’ll be small, won’t it?" Tidus: "Yeah… Then, we might be able to beat it without the Final Summoning." Yuna: "I don’t know. What if Yu Yevon jumps again?" Tidus: "Then we’ll take it down again! We’ll fight him until there’s no place left to run!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/88%20-%20Decisive%20Battle.mp3).)
Don’t Be Afraid
and
Dancing Mad.
and
Dancing Mad – Final Fantasy VI
Dancing Mad – Final Fantasy VI
Don’t Be Afraid
and
Dancing Mad.
Dancing Mad
Dancing Mad – Final Fantasy VI
Don’t Be Afraid – 4
Normal Battle – 4
Dancing Mad – 6
Decisive Battle – 2
We have a winner on the second battle, but it seems I have to break a tie on the first. So let’s go to the results from the previous round and take a look…
Normal Battle – 5/8 = 62.5%
Don’t Be Afraid – 8/12 = 66.6%
No joy for FFX this time around. Next up…
From Challenge Battle:
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "Think you can get away?" Beatrix: "Get away? Hahaha. You’re a bigger fool than I imagined… Have you forgotten how badly I beat you back in Burmecia?" Freya: "So, you are more of a fool for not finishing what you started!" Vivi: "You’re gonna pay!" Quina: "I find no tasties in this town, so we cook you for breakfast!" Beatrix: "Then allow me to shatter your delusions of grandeur." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/48%20-%20Mystery%20Sword.mp3).)
vs.
Seymour Battle – Final Fantasy X (Wakka: "Now! Yuna, send him!" Yuna: "Right!" Seymour: "So it is you, after all, who will send me. But even after I am gone, Spira’s sorrow will prevail." Tidus: "Sin will be right behind you." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/85%20-%20Seymour%20Battle.mp3).)
And from Final Boss Battle…
One Winged Angel – Final Fantasy VII ("Veni, veni, venias / Ne me mori facias / Sephiroth!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/83%20-%20One%20Winged%20Angel.mp3).)
vs.
The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII (Ultimecia: "I am Ultimecia. Time shall compress… …All existence denied." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/71%20-%20The%20Extreme.mp3).)
One-Winged Angel
The Extreme
and
The Extreme
The Extreme
and
The Extreme.
and
One-Winged Angel
The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII
One-Winged Angel – Final Fantasy VII
The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII
The Sword of Doubt – 2
Seymour Battle – 7
One-Winged Angel – 3
The Extreme – 6
Next up…
From Boss Battle:
Still More Fighting – Final Fantasy VII (Barret: Yo, Cloud! We’ve gotta do somethin’ about him!" Tifa: "Help, Cloud! THIS is from SOLDIER?" Cloud: "No way! It’s just a machine." Barret: "I don’t care what it is! I’m gonna bust him up!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/20%20-%20Still%20More%20Fighting.mp3).)
vs.
Battle 2 – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "…What the hell is that?" Steiner: "Release the princess at once!!!" Zidane: "Yeah, like it’s gonna actually listen to you. Come on!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/21%20-%20Boss%20Battle%20Theme.mp3).)
And from Chase / Intense Situation:
The Serpent Trench / The Snake Path – Final Fantasy VI (Cyan: "Is this it? Gau’s "’treasure’?" Gau: "Treasure…yesss…" Cyan: "Looks like glass…" Sabin: "Looks like it just might fit. Hummm… Is it of any use? Will this really let us breathe underwater? Let’s go!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff6music/19%20-%20The%20Serpent%20Trench.mp3).)
vs.
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX (Steiner: "Hmm, you’re right. I can see the entire town. Princess, look! Master Vivi is also participating!" Dagger: "I can’t believe it. He seemed to reluctant earlier." Steiner: "MASTER VIVI!!! THE PRINCESS AND I ARE ROOTING FOR YOU!!!" Dagger: "COME ON, VIVI!!! YOU CAN DO IT!" Steiner: "No! Master Vivi!" Dagger: "Look out! Oh, gosh! I can’t watch anymore!" Steiner: "YOU CAN’T WIN JUST BY RUNNING! A GOOD OFFENSE IS THE BEST DEFENSE! ATTACK! You can’t lose to that monkey Zidane! YES! THAT’S IT! Listen at YouTube here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgS0fSFGqmI).)
and
Hunter’s Chance.
and
Hunter’s Chance.
and
Hunter’s Chance.
and
The Serpent Trench
and
Hunter’s Chance.
Hunter’s Chance
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX
Battle 2 – 4
The Serpent Trench – 2
Hunter’s Chance – 7
All right, next up…
From Challenge Battle:
Premonition – Final Fantasy VIII (Sorceress Ultimecia: "Whom shall I exterminate first!? I’ll start with you three!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/37%20-%20Premonition.mp3).)
vs.
Challenge – Final Fantasy X (Yuna: "Will Sin come?" Base captain: "Sin always returns for its spawn. To make sure, we’re going to encourage them to call out to it." Auron: "You won’t have to. It’ll come." Tidus: (narrating) "I remembered Auron telling me. Sin is my old man. Sin is Jecht." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/80%20-%20Challenge.mp3).)
and from Chase / Intense Situation:
Run! – Final Fantasy V (Lenna: "We have to hurry! The Fire Crystal’s power is what supported this castle!" Bartz: "The Crystal shattered. the castle will explode!?" Lenna: "Yes!! There isn’t much time!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff5ost/123%20Run!.mp3).)
vs.
Hurry! – Final Fantasy VII (Aerith: "Tifa, don’t worry! She’s all right!" Tifa: "Aerith!" Aerith: "Hurry and get out!" Tseng: "Ha, ha, ha… Well, it should be starting right about now. Think you can escape in time?" Tifa: "Once that plate starts coming down it’s too late. We gotta hurry!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/07%20-%20Hurry.mp3).
Hurry! – Final Fantasy VII
Hurry!
Run! – Final Fantasy V
and
Hurry!
and
Hurry!
Hurry! – Final Fantasy VII
and
Hurry!
Hurry! – Final Fantasy VII
Run! – Final Fantasy V
Hurry! – Final Fantasy VII
and
Hurry!
and
Hurry! FFVII
Premonition – 9
Challenge – 3
and
Run! – 2
Hurry! – 10
Both pretty one-sided, the second slightly more so than the first.
Next up…
From Normal Battle
Final Fantasy VI – Battle Theme (Guards: "Machine-riding, self-important swine! Take this! … Imperial Magitek Armor? Not even Narshe’s safe anymore! Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff6music/05%20-%20Battle%20Theme.mp3).)
vs.
Battle 1 / Battle! / Battle Theme – Final Fantasy IX (Bearded Guy: "UGHUUA! Oh, my head! Go easy, you guys!" Blank: "Whew!" Cinna: "Whew!" Marcus: "Whew!" Zidane: "Whew!" Baku: "Hey, fools! You’re lookin’ a lot better! Gwahahaha! Alright! Let’s start this meeting already!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/18%20-%20Battle%20Theme.mp3).)
and from Final Boss Battle
Dark Messenger – Final Fantasy IX (Kuja: "How did they beat Deathguise…? Do you really think you can beat me? I can’t believe you beat Deathguise… Well…my time is almost up. Time to die, everyone!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/99%20-%20Dark%20Messenger.mp3).)
vs.
"Otherworld" – Final Fantasy X (Tidus: "I promise this’ll be quick! Hit me with all you got, Dad! … I won’t lose! … You won’t beat me this time!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/05%20-%20Otherworld.mp3).)
+
Otherworld
IX probably has my favorite normal battle theme ever. Though I kinda wanna smack myself now for not including Dark Messenger in my IX rumble. Well, nobody nominated it, but I could have… oh well.
+
Otherworld
i guess
Battle 1 FFIX
and
Dark Messenger FFIX
Otherworld
Dark Messenger – Final Fantasy IX -This has got to my favorite theme from FFIX.
and
Dark Messenger.
Otherworld
Dark Messenger
Dark Messenger – Final Fantasy IX
Battle Theme – 3
Battle 1 – 6
and
Dark Messenger – 5
Otherworld – 4
Pretty interesting on that second one there. Otherworld had an early lead but then Dark Messenger came from behind. Okay, next up…
From Challenge Battle:
J-E-N-O-V-A – Final Fantasy VII (Tifa: "I’ve seen this somewhere… before." Cloud: "…Jenova. The arm of Jenova." Aerith: "Jenova… With this thing?" Cloud: "So it WAS Sephiroth." Tifa: "He said something about it being time for something." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/37%20-%20J-E-N-O-V-A.mp3).)
vs.
Fairy Battle – Final Fantasy IX (Ragtime Mouse: "Pop quiz! True or false– "I Want To Be Your Canary" was written by Lord Afon." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/44%20-%20Fairy%20Battle.mp3).)
and from Chase/Intense Situation:
Dead End – Final Fantasy VIII (SeeD Cadet: "Squad C, withdraw…!" SeeD Cadet: "Roger!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/13%20-%20Dead%20End.mp3).)
vs.
Skirmish of the Silver Dragons / Assault of the White Dragons – Final Fantasy IX (Regent Cid: "All ships, make a path for the Invincible!" Baku: "Can’t let you guys steal the show for yourselves!" Zidane: "!" Dagger: "Uncle Cid!? Why…? How did he know to show up here?" Zidane: "Probably because of Baku… He loves big showdowns! Now, let’s lose those dragons!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/96%20-%20Assault%20of%20the%20White%20Dragons.mp3).)
and
Dead End
+
Assault of the White Dragons
Dead End – Final Fantasy VIII
and
Skirmish of the Silver Dragons – Final Fantasy IX
and
Dead End.
Assault Of The White Dragons
Assault of the White Dragons
Assault of the White Dragons
and
Assault of the White Dragons
and
Dead End
+
Assault of the White Dragons
Fairy Battle – 1
Dead End – 4
Assault of the White Dragons – 7
We’re actually getting kind of close to the end of the current round. For this next battle there shall only be one battle and it will be between three choices from Final Boss Battle. I need each voter to choose just one to advance to the next round…
This is the Last Battle / Battle to the Death – Final Fantasy III (Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYAYGwujyx4). Sorry, but I can’t quote anything from this one– I can’t find a script and it’s been ages since I played this one.)
vs.
Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII (Sorceress Ultimecia: "The GF’s true power… To show you…! Griever! Make them bleed!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/70%20-%20Maybe%20Im%20a%20Lion.mp3).)
vs.
Hametsu / Destruction – Final Fantasy X-2 (Paine: "LeBlanc never stood a chance against this thing." Rikku: "Well, we’ve got a ‘leg’ up on her." Yuna: "Save the jokes for later." Jecht: "This time the legs are just a distraction. You know where to strike." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffx2music/2/25%20-%20Destruction.mp3).)
Normally I would vote for "Maybe I’m a Lion", but currently I’m replaying FFIII remake for DS, so it gets a one time lucky bonus.
Maybe I’m a Lion – 6
Hametsu – 2
"Maybe I’m a Lion" wins easily, earning more votes than its two competitors combined. Next up…
From Normal Battle…
Battle 2 – Final Fantasy III (Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-iii-3-ost-soundtrack/27%20Battle%202.mp3). Again, I don’t know this game well enough to quote anything.)
vs.
Boss Battle – Final Fantasy XII (Amalia: "The situation requires I accept such help as I find. Thought it be from thieves. I shall accompany you until we find my companions. No longer. Balthier: "Let???s think of her as a ‘Guest’, then. Unlike Fran or myself, our ‘Guest’ probably won???t be taking orders from anyone anytime soon. And she???ll leave when she pleases. So, we keep to our affairs, and she to hers. I doubt we???ll find her wanting in valor??? Being such an upstanding member of the insurgence. Amalia: "Resistance. … Well, what are we waiting for?" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/105%20Boss%20Battle.mp3).)
and from Challenge Battle:
Jenova ABSOLUTE – Final Fantasy VII (Cloud: "Where are we…?" Tifa: "What!?" Cloud: "Jenova…!?" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/81%20-%20Jenova%20Absolute.mp3).)
vs.
You’re Not Alone! – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "Just…leave me alone. I don’t want to trouble you anymore." Quina: "…" Steiner: "…" Zidane: "You’re all a bunch of babysitting bastards! But trust me, I know that I’m the worst bastard here. … Dagger…" Dagger: "You try to do everything yourself, don’t you?" Zidane: "Try to understand… I don’t want to cause trouble to anyone." Dagger: "Aren’t we your friends!?" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/93%20-%20You%27re%20Not%20Alone!.mp3).)
and
Jenova ABSOLUTE
&
You’re Not Alone! – Final Fantasy IX
You’re Not Alone
Final Fantasy IX – You’re not Alone – I’ve never liked Jenova ABSOLUTE.
and
You’re Not Alone.
and
You’re Not Alone.
Easy choice on both.
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You’re Not Alone! – Final Fantasy IX
and
You’re Not Alone.
You’re Not Alone
and
You’re Not Alone.
You’re not Alone – Final Fantasy IX(I love this song…)
Boss Battle – 8
Jenova ABSOLUTE – 1
You’re Not Alone! – 10
Wow. I knew that "You’re Not Alone!" was well liked, but I didn’t expect such a slaughter against Jenova ABSOLUTE.
We are getting very close to the end of the current round. Next up…
From Challenge Battle:
The Unforgiven – Final Fantasy VI (Cid: "Celes, I’ve known her since she was a baby. I raised her as if she was my own daughter! But she was forced to become a Magitek Knight, and has done some awful things. If I could talk to her…I’d apologize for the way her life has turned out. (sound of Kefka’s laughter) Cid: "No! It’s Kefka! GO!!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff6music/14%20-%20The%20Unforgiven.mp3).)
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Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – Final Fantasy XII (Gabranth: "Look, Basch, your friends die! As they must, for surely you cannot protect them! Know now the despair you have taught me!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/202%20Clash%20of%20Swords.mp3).)
and…
From Chase / Intense Situation:
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII (Biggs: "Hold it, Jessie. He WAS in SOLDIER. He quit them and now is one of us. Didn’t catch your name…" Cloud: "…Cloud." Biggs: "Cloud, eh? I’m…" Cloud: "I don’t care what your names are. Once this job’s over… I’m
outta here." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/02%20-%20Opening%20Theme%20-%20Bombing%20Mission.mp3), along with the Opening Theme.)
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Run! – Final Fantasy: Unlimited (Kaze: "It’s calling me. The battlefield is calling me." If you didn’t download it the last time it was posted, you can listen here (http://agent0042.fileburst.com/ffurun.mp3). But you may have to download it, I’m not sure if you can stream it.)
and
Bombing Mission
and
Bombing Mission.
Run!
and
Bombing Mission
and
Bombing Mission
and
Run! – FF Unlimited
Bombing Mission
and
Opening – Bombing Mission – FFVII
and
Bombing Mission.
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII
The Unforgiven – 3
Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – 7
and
Bombing Mission – 8
Run! – 2
Two battles left in this round. And for right now, we will only do one, and here it is…
Only a Plank Between One and Perdition – Final Fantasy VIII (Bahamut: "I am…Bahamut." Squall: "The Great GF…Bahamut." Bahamut "…GF? I…? Using my powers… …It is you humans…I fear…" Listen to this one on YouTube here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvV7IUNra3k).)
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Desperate Fight – Final Fantasy XII (Fran: "Manufacted Nethicite! Like Bergan." Balthier: "How could you do this? How could you fall this far? … … Always hiding behind your toys. Pity if anything were to happen to them." Listen to this one here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/305%20Desperate%20Fight.mp3).)
Only a Plank Between One and Perdition.
Only a Plank Between One and Perdition.
Only a Plank Between One and Perdition.
Desperate Fight
Only a Plank Between One and Perdition – 6
Desperate Fight – 1
Didn’t expect that– thought that "Desperate Fight" was more well liked. And now, the final battle of the second round. It’s another three-way battle:
Shinra Army Wages a Full-Scale Attack – Final Fantasy VII (Barret: "Awright! We’ll climb this wire!" Cloud: "There’s no way we can do this. You know how far it goes up?" Barret: "There IS a way! Look! What’s that look like?" Cloud: "Just a normal wire." Barret: "Oh yeah? Well to me it looks like a golden shiny wire of hope." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/68%20-%20A%20Full%20Scale%20Attack.mp3).)
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Hurry Faster! – Final Fantasy VII (Dio: "Heh, heh, heh. Entertain me!" Cloud: "What’d you want me to do?" Dio: Hoo boy! Heh, heh, heh. It’s not something that’s really difficult. This is the Battle Arena. Show me your fighting skills. Just you, my boy, I’m expecting a good fight!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/75%20-%20Hurry%20Faster.mp3).)
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Vegnagun Starting – Final Fantasy X-2 (Jecht: "It’s just bluffing." Auron: "This relic’s getting rusty." Braska: "Yuna, you have your friends." Yuna: "If we all attack at once, we can do this! We need to split up!" Leblanc: "Leave the legs to us!" Gippal: "We’ve got the torso!" Rikku: "Guess that leaves the tail!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffx2music/2/22%20-%20Vegnagun%20Starting.mp3).)
Hurry Faster! – 7
Vegnagun Starting – 2
"Hurry Faster!" wins easily– the two choices competing against it could only muster four votes combined.
And that’s it for the current round. Next round will start tomorrow evening. Until then, feel free to commiserate on the battles so far, etc.
I wasn’t really expecting Veg to win, but "A Full Scale Attack" would have been my second choice. Oh well.
BTW, who is that in your avatar, every time I see it I think of Pokemon R/S’s Team Magma.
i’m not a FFX-2/FFXII hating fanboy. i just didn’t like Vegnagun starting. besides overall the FFX-2 soundtrack isn’t that good. i only like a few songs like Besaid Island, a great piano song. Under Bevelle was also great. some others too but not too many.
Anyways, I find that I have left a rather odd number of entrants, 21 to be exact. So I’m going to try something rather unusual and offer a reprieve to three choices. That’s right, three choices previously eliminated in the previous round will be added back into the mix. Here’s what was eliminated in the previous round:
Final Fantasy VI – Battle Theme
Normal Battle – Final Fantasy X
Battle 2 – Final Fantasy III
Battle 2 – Final Fantasy IX
The Unforgiven – Final Fantasy VI
Jenova ABSOLUTE – Final Fantasy VII
Fairy Battle – Final Fantasy IX
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX
Challenge – Final Fantasy X
Desperate Fight – Final Fantasy XII
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
This is the Last Battle / Battle to the Death – Final Fantasy III
One Winged Angel – Final Fantasy VII
"Otherworld" – Final Fantasy X
Decisive Battle / Final Battle – Final Fantasy X
Hametsu / Destruction – Final Fantasy X-2
Run! – Final Fantasy V
The Serpent Trench / The Snake Path – Final Fantasy VI
Shinra Army Wages a Full-Scale Attack – Final Fantasy VII
Dead End – Final Fantasy VIII
Moving – Final Fantasy VIII
Vegnagun Starting – Final Fantasy X-2
Run! – Final Fantasy: Unlimited
And in order to make this determination, I’d like each voter to give me exactly five choices (no more, no less– if you give me any other number, your vote won’t be counted) that they think are worthy of having another shot. In the end, the three choices that get the most votes total will be going on to the next battle. You’ll have the normal three days and normal tiebreaker procedure will apply if there’s a tie. And to add some intrigue, let’s make this a secret ballot. That’s right– send your choices to me by private message. The votes will be kept secret until the end of the battle, at which point, for accounting purposes, I’ll reveal everyone’s choices here at the thread. Got all that? Good! Send in those PMs!
Our first entrant moving on the next round is… Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII. This showed up on lots of people’s lists, with a total of six votes. Our second entrant is The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword. Once again, this showed up on a total of six different lists. From here, it’s between Challenge and Decisive Battle / Final Battle from Final Fantasy X. So we go to a tie-breaker…
Challenge – 5/8, 3/12
Decisive Battle / Final Battle – 5/9 (on a previous tie), 2/8
Challenge wins, since the other only lasted a previous tie and both have pretty much identical meager vote percentages (so meager that I’m surprised there was such support for them here.)
Here is what is now left for the third round:
Dancing Mad – Final Fantasy VI
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII
Hurry! – Final Fantasy VII
Hurry Faster! – Final Fantasy VII
J-E-N-O-V-A – Final Fantasy VII
Still More Fighting – Final Fantasy VII
Don’t Be Afraid – Final Fantasy VIII
The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII
Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII
Only a Plank Between One and Perdition – Final Fantasy VIII
Premonition – Final Fantasy VIII
Battle 1 / Battle! / Battle Theme – Final Fantasy IX
Dark Messenger – Final Fantasy IX
Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX
Skirmish of the Silver Dragons / Assault of the White Dragons – Final Fantasy IX
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX
You’re Not Alone! – Final Fantasy IX
Challenge – Final Fantasy X
Seymour Battle – Final Fantasy X
Those Who Come Closer – Final Fantasy X
Boss Battle – Final Fantasy XII
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – Final Fantasy XII
Remember that you can see the updated results in the first post of the the thread.
Here’s the first battle of the third round:
J-E-N-O-V-A – Final Fantasy VII (Cloud: "Jenova… Sephiroth’s… So… they’ve brought it here." Tifa: "Cloud, be strong!" Cloud: "Did you see it?" Barret: "See what?" Cloud: "It’s moving…….. still alive?" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/37%20-%20J-E-N-O-V-A.mp3).)
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Hunter’s Chance – Final Fantasy IX (Elite Guard: "And you, Mr. Vivi?" Vivi: "WHAT!? I never signed up!" Zidane: "I thought you would do pretty well, so I signed you up. Don’t worry. With your black magic, it’ll be a piece of cake." Vivi: "I…I don’t know…" Freya: "That was very inconsiderate of you, Zidane." This one is on YouTube here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgS0fSFGqmI).)
For the record, these are the votes that people sent in for the entrants they felt should have another shot. From what I can tell, it looks like everyone picked at least one choice that ended up making it…
arthurgolden
Battle 2 – Final Fantasy III
This is the Last Battle / Battle to the Death – Final Fantasy III
Battle 2 – Final Fantasy IX
Challenge – Final Fantasy X
Normal Battle – Final Fantasy X
supdup
Jenova ABSOLUTE – Final Fantasy VII
Shinra Army Wages a Full-Scale Attack – Final Fantasy VII
Decisive Battle / Final Battle – Final Fantasy X
Vegnagun Starting – Final Fantasy X-2
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
Shadow mage
Battle Theme – Final Fantasy VI
One Winged Angel – Final Fantasy VII
Dead End – Final Fantasy VIII
Battle 2 – Final Fantasy IX
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX
Slavka
The Sword Of Doubt/Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX
Otherworld – Final Fantasy X
Vegnagun Starting – Final Fantasy X-2
Clash On The Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
Desperate Fight – Final Fantasy XII
Smarty
The Unforgiven – Final Fantasy VI
Shinra Army Wages A Full-Scale Attack – Final Fantasy VII
The Sword of Doubt/Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX
Decisive Battle / Final Battle – Final Fantasy X
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
Mickrulz
Moving – Final Fantasy VIII
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX
Decisive Battle / Final Battle – Final Fantasy X
Normal Battle – Final Fantasy X
"Otherworld" – Final Fantasy X
feralanima
One-Winged Angel – Final Fantasy VII
Battle 2 – Final Fantasy IX
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX
Challenge – Final Fantasy X
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
Hawkeye_1138
Jenova ABSOLUTE – Final Fantasy VII
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
Desperate Fight – Final Fantasy XII
Challenge – Final Fantasy X
Zak
Movin’ – Final Fantasy VIII
Challenge – Final Fantasy X
Decisive Battle / Final Battle – Final Fantasy X
Normal Battle – Final Fantasy X
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
I’ll go for J-E-N-O-V-A cuz it has that extra kick to it.
J-E-N-O-V-A gets my vote though.
Hunter’s Chance is good, but not good enough to be J-E-N-O-V-A.
J-E-N-O-V-A – 9
Hunter’s Chance – 8
Wow, even closer than I expected! Great turnout. "J-E-N-O-V-A" was leading from the start and while there was a huge upsurge of later support for "Hunter’s Chance," it just didn’t have quite enough at the end.
Let’s see if things will be anywhere near as close for this next battle…
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII (Laguna: "It’s not so bad… 2 is better than 1. 4 is better than 2, right?" Kiros: "So, who’s the 4th one? Geez…Are you…starting to hallucinate?" Lagun: "Yeah…I can see it! Oh…My sweet Elle…You make your uncle so happy." (Hey…Now’s our chance! You know what to do? Let’s just finish’em off and get out of here!) Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/19%20-%20The%20Man%20With%20The%20Machine%20Gun.mp3).)
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Those Who Come Closer – Final Fantasy X (Wakka: "We’re finished." Tidus: "Now hold on just a minute! Seymour’s the bad guy, right? We’ll just explain to everyone what happened!" Auron: "It won’t be that easy. Let’s get out of here." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/57%20-%20Those%20Who%20Come%20Closer.mp3).)
I’ve never cared that it’s overrated. :0
Those Who Come Closer – 3
"Those Who Come Closer" didn’t even come close. Hee hee. ๐
Next up…
You’re Not Alone! – Final Fantasy IX (Eiko: "There he goes, being the tough guy… Look, Zidane… It’s not just about you." Vivi: "Come on, Zidane… Don’t be like that. Let’s–" Zidane: "Shut up! Just shut up, you stupid brat!" Vivi: "Zidane!?" Eiko: "Zidane…" Zidane: "…" Eiko: "Zidane, wait up!" Vivi: "You need rest, Zidane!" Zidane: "Will you little twits just shut up! There are some things kids can’t understand." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/93%20-%20You%27re%20Not%20Alone!.mp3).)
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Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII ("Hunt reported. But just who was Gilgamesh, and why did he yearn so for a sword? No wonder they call him the Ancient Man of Mystery!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/313%20Clash%20on%20the%20Big%20Bridge%20~FFXII%20V ersion~.mp3).)
Its nice they pay tribute to the old days.
You’re Not Alone! – 6
Clash on the Big Bridge – 11
"Clash on the Big Bridge" was given a second chance and it seems that it was well-deserved– lots of support this time for it. Okay, next up…
Dancing Mad – Final Fantasy VI (Kefka: "I command the greatest power in the universe! You are all helpless before me! I will destroy everything… I will create a monument to non-existence!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff6music/59%20-%20Dancing%20Mad.mp3).)
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Battle 1 / Battle! / Battle Theme – Final Fantasy IX (Red-haired Man: "Now, fight me!" Zidane: "Just a second here. What’s going on?" Red-haired Man: "I told you. I’m not here to help. I just want to level the playing field." Zidane: "Fair enough. Let’s do it." Dagger: "Zidane!" Zidane: "It’s okay. I was just looking for more ways to impress you!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/18%20-%20Battle%20Theme.mp3).)
Battle 1 – 6
Good battle, "Dancing Mad" takes it by 3.
Next up…
Hurry! – Final Fantasy VII (Cloud: "What do you think you’re doin’?" Hojo: "Lending a helping hand to an endangered species… Both of them
are on the brink of extinction… If I don’t help, all these animals will disappear." Tifa: "…animal? That’s terrible! Aerith is a human being!" Barret: "You’re gonna pay!" Cloud: "Barret! Can’t you do anything?"
Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/07%20-%20Hurry.mp3).)
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Seymour Battle – Final Fantasy X (Seymour: "But there is no salvation for the damned! Rest in peace, in eternal darkness!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/85%20-%20Seymour%20Battle.mp3).)
ALL THE WAYYYYY
I don’t understand what’s so great about Hurry especially that one.
I like Hurry but it’s not in the same league as SB.
Hurry! – 9
Seymour Battle – 6
Good battle, but it looks like "Hurry!" was favored throughout and it remained the favored choice, advancing it to the quarter-finals. Next up…
The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII (Ultimecia: "Reflect on your… Childhood… Your sensation… Your words… Your emotions…" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/71%20-%20The%20Extreme.mp3).)
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Skirmish of the Silver Dragons / Assault of the White Dragons – Final Fantasy IX (Steiner: "Red Rose!? Could it be…Beatrix!?" Zidane: "Quite a woman, you fell in love with!" Steiner: "You’re one to talk!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/96%20-%20Assault%20of%20the%20White%20Dragons.mp3).)
I have a horrible feeling of deja vu.
can’t remember what the other one was like D:
Assault of the White Dragons – 4
After briefly pulling even at 4 votes, the "Dragons" theme ends up going down in flames. The final form Ultimecia tune goes on to the quarter-finals. We go on to this battle…
Hurry Faster! – Final Fantasy VII (Dio: "That’s the best you could do? Well, a promise is a promise. Go ahead, take it. Well then, we shall meet again! Heh, heh, heh." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/75%20-%20Hurry%20Faster.mp3).)
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The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX (Beatrix: "How ridiculously weak… Isn’t there anyone who is worthy of facing me?" Brahne: "Come, Beatrix. We must prepare to attack Cleyra." Beatrix: "Yes, Your Majesty." Kuja: "Now what do we have here…? Another filthy rat, and… Hmm… This boy could become a problem…" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/48%20-%20Mystery%20Sword.mp3).)
Another chance for FFIX, this time in the form of the battle theme for Beatrix. Will IX take this one, or will this be a VII victory? Cast your votes!
Without thinking, never liked Sword of Doubt XD
I like both themes, though neither is a favorite.
Whenever I play that game that song gets stuck in my head for hours.
Even though I do like Beatrixs’ song as well.
Hurry Faster! – 6
Mystery Sword – 9
"Hurry Faster!" started out with an early, weak lead, but couldn’t maintain it. It’s "Mystery Sword" to the quarter-finals.
Next up…
Still More Fighting – Final Fantasy VII (Rufus: "Heh… That’s all for today." Tifa: "Where’s Rufus?" Cloud: "I couldn’t finish ’em. Looks like this’s gonna get complicated." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/20%20-%20Still%20More%20Fighting.mp3).)
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Premonition – Final Fantasy VIII ("Sorceress from beyond time who appeared due to Time Compression. Uses magic, but it is not very powerful." – Scan Description Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/37%20-%20Premonition.mp3).)
(I actually rather like both of these, but Premonition just has more to it. I like that it grabs bits of themes from other tunes, i.e. main FF theme and sorceress theme. Still More Fighting is cool but it wasn’t one of the best from FF7, at least for me.)
Premonition
I also love Premonition. xD
Premonition
Premonition – 9
Nice battle there. "Premonition" keeps the lead in the end and goes on to the quarter-finals. And we go on to this battle…
Dark Messenger – Final Fantasy IX (Kuja: "Ugh… I’m gonna die anyway… I won’t have to be afraid anymore… But I’m not gonna die alone. You’re all coming with me!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/99%20-%20Dark%20Messenger.mp3).)
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Boss Battle – Final Fantasy XII (Fran: "The wall comes. We must be quick! Together we can bring it down!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/105%20Boss%20Battle.mp3).)
Dark Messenger for me.
Dark Messenger – 5
Boss Battle – 10
Definitely not what I expected– not even all that close, really. But there you have it, FFXII’s "Boss Battle" theme continues to the next round. And we continue to this battle…
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII (Wedge: "I’ll secure the escape passage. Concentrate on the mission, Cloud. Geez, we’re really gonna blow this huge furnace up? This’ll be somethin’ to see!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/02%20-%20Opening%20Theme%20-%20Bombing%20Mission.mp3), with Opening Theme.)
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Only a Plank Between One and Perdition – Final Fantasy VIII (Irvine: "Squall! You choose two more party members and head up. I’ll hold’em here." Squall: "Up?" Irvine: "Don’t have time to explain now! The exit’s up there, trust me."
Listen at YouTube here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HrEMVNkiok).)
I really like both of these, and will be sad to see either go.
Yeah I like them both too…
Only a Plank Between One and Perdition – only because it plays when you fight Ultima Weapon who was badass.
They are quite similar? That’s what I thought anyways ๐
Bombing Mission
easily.
Only a Plank Between One and Perdition – only because it plays when you fight Ultima Weapon who was badass.
Oh boo-hoo. :p
Only a Plank Between One and Perdition!
Bombing Mission – 8
Only a Plank Between One and Perdition – 6
We have two more battles left in this round. Here’s the first of those two…
Don’t Be Afraid – Final Fantasy VIII (Seifer: "Listen up! The finishing blow determines the EXP. Save it for me!" Listen to an orchestrated version here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/04%20-%20Don%27t%20Be%20Afraid%20%28Orchestrated%29.mp3).)
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Challenge – Final Fantasy X (Brother: "Rikku! Tuh’d ehdanvana un oui kad drec! Ouin bnaleuic magic yht aeons yna caymat!" [<font color="red">"Rikku! Don’t interfere or you get this! Your precious magic and aeons are sealed!"</font>] Rikku: "Oh, no!" Tidus: "Translation?" Rikku: "He’s gonna use an anti-magic field on us!" Al Bhed: "Kad dras!" [<font color="red">"Get them!"</font>] Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ffxmusic/80%20-%20Challenge.mp3).)
I kept waiting for some semblance of a melody in challenge, but I never got one. It has a bit of a fun groove in the second half, though.
Also, Challenge doesn’t play at all in the battle which that quote is from. It’s used for Sinspawn Gui, Seymour Flux, Yunalesca, Omega Weapon, and Dark Bahamut. Maybe one more but not that one.
Also, excuse my bit of advertising but just thought I’d mention to those who care that the XII rumble started!
Anyways…
Don’t Be Afraid – 7
Challenge – 5
And so "Challenge" breathes its last gasp. And we move to the final battle of the current round…
Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII (Rinoa: "You know something, I couldn’t afford to fall off that cliff and die. I have something very important that belongs to you. I can’t die until I give it back to you, right? Zell gave it to me, see? I’ve been holding onto it." Squall: (I’m gonna kill him…) "That’s my favorite ring. You’d better give it back." Rinoa: "I’m sure it is. It’s a cool-looking ring. What’s this monster on it anyway?" Squall: "It’s not a monster. It’s a lion. Lions are known for their great strength and pride." Rinoa: "Hmm…great strength…pride……Kinda like you, Squall." Squall: "I wish…" Rinoa: "Hmm…so this L I O N of yours. Does it have a name?" Squall: "Of course. Griever." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/70%20-%20Maybe%20Im%20a%20Lion.mp3).)
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Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – Final Fantasy XII (Archadian Wayfarer: "So you???ve defeated the menace of Sochen? Well done! You???re in danger of showing signs of promise! I may even use you again one day! Here, your reward, richly deserved. I always respect a job well done. And I???ve found
my son, to boot!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/final-fantasy-xii-12-ost-soundtrack/202%20Clash%20of%20Swords.mp3).)
I never liked Maybe I’m a Lion.
I never liked Maybe I’m a Lion.
I never liked Maybe I’m a Lion.
I never liked Maybe I’m a Lion.
I don’t dislike Maybe I’m a Lion, but it is slightly overrated, indeed.
I never liked Maybe I’m a Lion.
Maybe I’m a Lion – 5
Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – 8
Good battle, but the XII piece takes it by 3. Here’s what’s left for the quarter-finals…
Dancing Mad – Final Fantasy VI
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII
Hurry! – Final Fantasy VII
J-E-N-O-V-A – Final Fantasy VII
Don’t Be Afraid – Final Fantasy VIII
The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII
The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII
Premonition – Final Fantasy VIII
The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX
Boss Battle – Final Fantasy XII
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – Final Fantasy XII
Blah blah, keep in mind that the above list is only for reference as we head into this new round and the updated list of results is kept in the first post of the thread. First battle…
J-E-N-O-V-A – Final Fantasy VII (Sephiroth: "Being here brings back memories. Are you going to participate in the Reunion?" Cloud: "I don’t even know what a Reunion is!" Sephiroth: "Jenova will be at the Reunion. Jenova will rejoin the Reunion becoming a calamity from the skies." Cloud: "Jenova, a calamity from the skies? You mean she wasn’t an Ancient!?" Sephiroth: "…I see. I don’t think you have the right to participate. I will go north past Mt. Nibel. If you wish to find out… then follow…" Cloud: "…Reunion? Calamity from the skies?"
Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff7music/37%20-%20J-E-N-O-V-A.mp3).)
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The Man with the Machine Gun – Final Fantasy VIII (Ward: "Hey, aren’t we here to fight a war? You know, against the almighty Timber army?" Kiros: "Yeah, so why are we wasting our time messin’ with these animals?" Laguna: "Well, you see…It’s just that, uhh…" Kiros: "Don’t tell me we’re lost again."
Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff8music/19%20-%20The%20Man%20With%20The%20Machine%20Gun.mp3).)
Oh, for those that care, the next edition of the Final Fantasy VIII Rumble should be starting up tomorrow, so keep an eye out for that…
I like both, but this one is just a bit more fun for me.
I like both, but neither is a favorite. This wasn’t an easy choice.
I like both, but neither is a favorite. This wasn’t an easy choice.
J-E-N-O-V-A – 9
The Man With the Machine Gun – 6
Good battle. The VII tune takes it by three votes and we continue to the next battle…
Dancing Mad – Final Fantasy VI (Kefka: "This is sickening… You sound like chapters from a self-help booklet! Prepare yourselves! Now, for my next trick, I will make you all…disappear!" Party Members: "Kefka, you don’t know what you’re doing! Stop!" Kefka: "I command the greatest power in the universe! You are all helpless before me! I will destroy everything… I will create a monument to non-existence!" Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff6music/59%20-%20Dancing%20Mad.mp3).)
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The Sword of Doubt / Mystery Sword – Final Fantasy IX (Beatrix: "I’ll kill all enemies of Alexandria. Never step into this land again." Listen here (http://lamda.bluelaguna.net/ff9music/48%20-%20Mystery%20Sword.mp3).)
Meh.
Mystery Sword – 2
Not much of a contest on that one at all. "Dancing Mad" easily earns a spot in the semi-finals. And we continue with this battle…
Don’t Be Afraid – Final Fantasy VIII (Irvine: "Well then… We’ll need to choose a party for the trip to Deling City. How’s this?" (He has placed Rinoa and Selphie in his party.) Squall: "That’s no good. I’ll decide." (The player chooses the party members.) "There." Irvine: "What!? Are you serious…?" Squall: "I’ve balanced out the party." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyxDEK9sjKg).)
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Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII (Gilgamesh: "Fools! You face the mightiest swordsman in all Ivalice! You face me! Gilgamesh! Long have I sought the blade of Legend… scoured have I the furthest marches, East and West! Now my search brings me here, to you! Your weapons are forfeit to me!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCf9faVi5PI).)
As has been noted in at least one other thread, Blue Laguna direct stream links no longer seem to work, so I am now linking to YouTube.
Don’t Be Afraid.
I’m not too fond of Sakimoto’s work with the FFXII soundtrack. I like the Uematsu version of "Clash on the Big Bridge" a little better.
I surprised my self a bit on this one. I was all set to vote for the Don’t be afraid, but it’s much less interesting than I remember it being.
Clash on the Big Bridge – 6
So after FFVIII’s normal battle theme takes an early lead, but in the end, the remixed Gilgamesh battle theme goes on the semi-finals. And we move on to this battle…
Hurry! – Final Fantasy VII (Corneo: "Just listen to me, it won’t take long. Why do you think a bad guy like me would swallow his pride and plead for his life?" Cloud: "Because he’s sure to win?" Corneo: "Hmm…! RIGHT!" Elena: "Eyaaaah…!" Yuffie: "Makes me so MAD…!" Corneo: "If I push this button, they’ll fall upside down, and we’ll have a SQUASHED TOMATOES!" Cloud: "Damn…!" Cid: "So this is how a loser lives…!" Barret: "Damn dirty-playin’ @*#&$@*#&@@#!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5wqIafRKms).)
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Premonition – Final Fantasy VIII (Sorceresses and Magic: "A woman who has inherited the power of a sorceress. The origins of the sorceress go back to ancient times during Hyne’s reign. However, there is no factual evidence." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUu2olqwZ8s).)
If this one goes down, I think I might just cry.
I really don’t understand what everyone likes about Hurry!. It’s kinda lame tbh.
Very easy choice for me
man
Hurry! – 6
Premonition – 10
A good battle, but "Premonition" wins by several votes. We have two battles left in this round. Here’s the first of them…
The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII ("Ultimecia, transformed to absorb all time and space. Absorbing all existence as we speak." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVkcmx2l3WA).)
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Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – Final Fantasy XII ("To put an end to this scourge, I thought to post a bill for its hunting… Those clansmen refused my expertly written wanted-bill, saying it was “crude and ingenuous in its execution.” They wanted me to rewrite it! Wounded, I withdrew my posting. I thereupon hired two hunters from the Phon Coast and sent them into the caves…the craven curs! As my son and I waited by the entrance, these two so-called “hunters” came running out and past us, completely ignoring me, their employer! Enraged, I gave chase, managing to catch one of the two, lying upon the ground, utterly useless. Worse, I was separated from my son." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY1l4sBNDQA).)
The Extreme – 8
Flash of Steel / Clash of Swords – 4
"The Extreme" wins by four votes. Time for the final battle of the round…
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII (Barret: "The hell you all doin’!? I thought I told you never to move in a group! Our target’s the North Mako Reactor. We’ll meet on the bridge in front of it." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHm-jb4FqyA), with Opening Theme.)
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Boss Battle – Final Fantasy XII ("One Deity among Dragons, One great Wyrm to rule all Wyrms of the World, by the Creator Himself created. Legend says it is an Anima, Guardian to a Sacred Blade. Though most sacred among its Kind, its great Power drove it to Madness, and in the End, it became a Threat to its own Creator. His Master was killed by Yiazmat, robbing Montblanc of all Joy in Life, and he would have Revenge." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuXMiwtKlik).)
Both VII and XII already have one tune each going on to the semi-finals. But which of them will have a second tune going into that? Cast your votes!
Boss Battle.
Only because I heard an orchestral version of it ๐
Boss Battle – 6
"Boss Battle" loses an early lead, so it’s "Bombing Mission" into the semi-finals. And here’s what’s left for those:
Dancing Mad – Final Fantasy VI
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII
J-E-N-O-V-A – Final Fantasy VII
The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII
Premonition – Final Fantasy VIII
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII
As always, you can find the updated results in the first post of the thread.
First battle:
J-E-N-O-V-A – Final Fantasy VII (Tifa: "I’ve seen this somewhere… before." Cloud: "…Jenova. The arm of Jenova." Aerith: "Jenova… With this thing?" Cloud: "So it WAS Sephiroth." Tifa: "He said something about it being time for something." Cloud: "……Time…is now?" Aerith: "Hmmm… I don’t get it. Hey, Cloud. Can you explain it to us?" Cloud: "I’ll try, but don’t interrupt me while I’m explaining. Sephiroth went off searching for the Promised Land, so he could become the ruler of the planet… That was 5 years ago. Then Sephiroth came back and killed President Shinra. And then just now all of us saw Sephiroth. He was carrying Jenova with him. …This much I do know. He told me he wants to go to the Promised Land with his mother, Jenova. ….I guess that’s about it." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KXiVBA7svc).)
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The Extreme – Final Fantasy VIII (Ultimecia: "Time… It will not wait… No matter… …how hard you hold on. It escapes you… And…" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01mxuw31GVs).)
J-E-N-O-V-A – 8
The Extreme – 3
And so FFVIII’s final boss theme is out of the running. Next up, we have:
Dancing Mad – Final Fantasy VI (Kefka: "Life… Dreams… Hope… Where did they come from? And where are they headed? These things… I am going to destroy!")
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Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy XII (Gilgamesh: "That was merely a test of your strength, mortals! A prelude if you will! The real contest begins now! I.E, your weapons are as good as mine!")
Clash on the Big Bridge – 3
Our lineup for the final battle of this edition is nearly complete. Just one battle left before that…
Bombing Mission – Final Fantasy VII (Barret: "C’mon newcomer. Follow me." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHm-jb4FqyA) with Opening Theme.)
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Premonition – Final Fantasy VIII (Sorceress Edea: "…A SeeD. …Planted in a run-down Garden." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUu2olqwZ8s).)
Premonition – 5
Very close, but "Premonition" squeaks it out by one vote! And so we go into our big, three-way final battle. Here it is…
Dancing Mad – Final Fantasy VI (Listen to the first here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ios6zLDR8AI). You can find more from there.)
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J-E-N-O-V-A – Final Fantasy VII (Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KXiVBA7svc).)
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Premonition – Final Fantasy VIII (Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUu2olqwZ8s).)
Three games, three different tunes! Vote for just one that you want to see win!
Maybe if it had been Jenova Absolute in this battle I’d have voted for 7 but that is not the case.
J-E-N-O-V-A
… will probably lose.
J-E-N-O-V-A – 2
Premonition – 3
Our big winner…
Dancing Mad
Getting more votes than its competition combined. http://agent0042.fileburst.com/anikefka.gif
Well, that’s it for another edition. So what’s next? Well, I’ve been thinking of doing another anti-edition. We’ve already had Most Overrated Character (Sephiroth) and Most Boring/Annoying Subplot/Sidequest (dodging lightning bolts in the Thunder Plains.) Anyone have any thoughts on what else they might like to see for an anti-edition of this sort?
That or most annoying/bad scenes.
Also, where exactly is the Most Overrated Character rumble? I’ve searched this thread and you mention it a few times Agent but I can’t find the actual Rumble.
Yeah. You might need to be prepared to decide whether One-Winged Angel is going to be included.
Also, will this include music from the spin-offs (like Dissidia, Crystal Chronicles, the Chocobo games, X-2, The After Years, Crisis Core, etc.)? Or just the main series?
It’s hard to say really, I like them all, but some that can drive me crazy after a long time…
Heresy – FFVIII
Fighting – FFVII
Residents – FFVIII (I never get annoyed by it, but a lot of people seem to and I want an excuse to include this one! :p)
FFVII – Gold Saucer
Giza Plains – FFXII
The Wild West – FFVI (ask anyone who’s collected all the rages…)
Hurry Faster – FFVII
Blue Fields – FFVIII
One Winged Angel – FFVII (For realz)
Fragments of Memories – FFVIII (God that twinkling sound got on my nerves)
Cleyra Settlement – FFIX
Real Emotion – FFX-2 (I think many will agree, this song sucks)
Chocobo – FFX-2 (aka Ohgodpleasekillmenow de Chocobo)
FFIX – Battle 1
FFIX – The Sword of Doubt/The Weaving Sword/Doubtful Sword
FFIX – Ambush Attack/City Under Siege
FFVIII – The Castle
FFVIII – Rivals
FFVIII – Maybe I’m a Lion
FFXII – Ashe’s Theme (Explore the sub floors of the pharos)
FFVII – JENOVA Absolute
FFVII – Those Chosen by the Planet
FFVI – Dancing Mad (Surprisingly yes, if the battle takes too long & in the OST the song last’s 18:00 Minutes aprox, so yeah, it’s an Ear Worm)
Nice elections Zak! ^^
EDIT: I’ll keep posting more If I remember
Fine then. My list.
J-E-N-O-V-A (FFVII)
Gargant Roo (FFIX)
Machine Faction (FFX-2)
Maybe I’m A Lion (FFVII)
Challenge (FFX)
The Man with the Machinegun (FFVIII)
I hate you.
My list:
FFIX – Boss Theme
FFVIII – Eyes on Me
FFVII – Hurry!
FFX-2 – Zanarkand
I’ll edit some more in, if I can remember them. I’m gonna take a look through my song archive now.
Chocobo – FFX-2 (aka Ohgodpleasekillmenow de Chocobo)
LOL
Hey, I like all of those songs. They just aren’t as good as some say. (well it’s mainly Challenge and Man with the Machinegun that get the hype)
The man with the machine gun maybe. But Challenge? I’ve never even heard this mentioned more than a couple of times.
I removed the FFX songs from my list till I can find one I really don’t like.
I also repalced Man iwth the Machinegun with Maybe I’m A Lion. I really do hate that song.
May be, but it didn’t happened to me on regular battles in IV, VI & VIII
Me too, except maybe V’s. I’m slightly irritated by that one now. Only slightly.
Paine’s Theme (X-2)
I mean the fact it’s not a very good song to begin with isn’t helped by how it totally doesn’t fit Paine’s personality at all.
Mog’s Theme (FFVI and FFIX I believe)
To Zanarkand (FFX)
So, here we go then. Most annoying music / earworm music– whatever you want to call it…
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy V
Hurry! Hurry! – Final Fantasy V
Mog – Final Fantasy VI
The Wild West – Final Fantasy VI
Fighting – Final Fantasy VII
Hurry! – Final Fantasy VII
Hurry Faster – Final Fantasy VII
The Gold Saucer – Final Fantasy VII
J-E-N-O-V-A – Final Fantasy VII
Jenova ABSOLUTE – Final Fantasy VII
One Winged Angel – Final Fantasy VII
Those Chosen By the Planet – Final Fantasy VII
Blue Fields – Final Fantasy VIII
Eyes on Me – Final Fantasy VIII
Fragments of Memories – Final Fantasy VIII
Heresy – Final Fantasy VIII
Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII
Residents – Final Fantasy VIII
Rivals – Final Fantasy VIII
Ambush Attack / City Under Siege – Final Fantasy IX
Battle 1 – Final Fantasy IX
Boss Battle Final Fantasy IX
Cleyra Settlement – Final Fantasy IX
Gargan Roo – Final Fantasy IX
Mystery Sword / The Sword of Doubt – Final Fantasy IX
To Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X
real emotion – Final Fantasy X-2
Chocobo – Final Fantasy X-2
Paine’s Theme – Final Fantasy X-2
Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X-2
Ashe’s Theme – Final Fantasy XII
Giza Plains – Final Fantasy XII
As usual, the above list is only for reference and you can check the updated results in the first post of the thread. First battle…
The Wild West – Final Fantasy VI (This is the music that plays when you’re on the Veldt, presumably to train Gau in his Rages. If you spend any significant length of time there, it could definitely get stuck in your head. Particularly since it plays throughout– not just in the battles, but also in the field. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ALrUk9GSaU).)
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Those Chosen by the Planet – Final Fantasy VII (Some consider it to be "Sephiroth’s Theme." It plays in a number of scenes involving him. Listen to it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C77Eaq3CDQ).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
It is Sephiroth’s Theme and fuck Square for forgetting it.
If it didn’t play in the battles I’d appreciate it more.
I remember liking it at first and then getting increasingly annoyed with the music as the game went on.
Imagine if the Magic Tower’s theme went non-stop like The Veldt’s. :D:D THEN I’d go bonkers.
And I quite like Those Chosen By The Planet, never really got annoyed by it as much.
Those Chosen by the Planet – 5
So definitely a very close one here, but "The Wild West" goes to the next round.
Next up…
Residents – Final Fantasy VIII (Tune that plays as you’re wandering around the Ragnarok searching for Propagators. Very unusual sound to this one– some may like it, but others could definitely be annoyed by it. Listen to it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYXCVOClQig).)
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Paine’s Theme – Final Fantasy X-2 (The "theme" for this character as heard in X-2. Thing is, it never actually seems to be used in any scenes involving her. I think it may be used on one or two of the Calm Lands minigames, and possibly also with the lightning towers in the Thunder Plains. As some have noted, it doesn’t necessarily seem to suit her personality. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Co5cJsyqU).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
I’ve never had a problem with Residents personally.
Ditto to what ravenous19 said.
Also, Agent, I’m pretty sure the theme plays a ta couple Paine-centric moments.
During the famed "Respect Points" scene for instance after Nooj leaves YRP at the entrance to the Den of Woe.
Also when Paine and Yuna talk on the deck of he Celsius.
But who cares. It still sucks.
Pretty much because of what the above posters said.
"Residents" is far from being annoying
"Residents" is far from being annoying
Based on that my vote goes for Paine’s Theme.
Residents makes me nervous, or most likely due to the combination of the noises and the constant bumping into monsters.
But Paine’s Theme is just so incredibly unfitting that it’s so hard not to vote for it.
Residents – 0
Paine’s Theme – 9
And, next up…
The Gold Saucer – Final Fantasy VII (The music that plays throughout most of the time that you’re simply walking the Gold Saucer. You spend a lot of time there and it just sort of goes on continuously, so I can see how it could get annoying. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZbgM8HyhrU).)
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Gargan Roo – Final Fantasy IX (Played continuously throughout your time in Fossil Roo. Another one that definitely could have potential to get annoying after a while. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8gNwgarFJ0).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
The insane amount of time one must spend there if you want to get certain items or complete certain quests just makes this theme song dig itself into yoru very soul.
Easy choice once again. I actually like Gargan Roo quite a lot.
Why is To Zanarkand on the list? It’s really good.
And To Zanarkand is here because someone nominated it I guess. Look back there.
Gargan Roo makes me go D:
but The Gold Saucer makes me go D8<
Yep.
Gargan Roo – 1
All but a blowout there. Just one vote for "Gargan Roo." Next up…
Fragments of Memories – Final Fantasy VIII (This is a sort of cutesy tune that plays throughout most of the time during the third Laguna sequence, the one in Winhill. Personally, I rather like it, but I can see how it could get old/annoying for some after a while. Listen to this one here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv9llZE5INA).)
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Ashe’s Theme – Final Fantasy XII (Different portions of this actually play in two parts of the game– the Giruvegan entrance and the Pharos Subterra. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swE4TeRC96o).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
I do like it but I can see why it’s so jarring for some people.
SpoonyOne illustrated that fight well.
I do like it but I can see why it’s so jarring for some people.
I do like it but I can see why it’s so jarring for some people.
SpoonyOne illustrated that fight well.
Why are so many good songs on this rumble? Ashe’s Theme is great.
Ashe’s Theme is problematic if you start exploring the Sub-Terra in the Pharos, That’s why I named it, because I started to hate the song because most of the time spent in that place is kill mobs to get the big black orbs in order to advance & that takes to much time, hence I get tired of the song.
No one else said anything about the song so maybe that’s why it’s still here…
I hated it so much!
No one else said anything about the song so maybe that’s why it’s still here…
I agree, but Ashe’s Theme is kind of a two-parter, since it’s got two halves that are very different from each other, and they each loop seperately in different parts of the game. There’s the half in Giruvegan entrance gate, which is slow paced and hardly repetitive because it sounds cool and you don’t spend much time there anyway, and there’s the part that plays in the Subterra which is more catchy but you spend a long time there. It’s all about which part you associate it with. Both parts are so different that it’s hard to believe they’re even part of the same track.
But the Subterra part never got on my nerves.
Ashe’s Theme – 1
Next up…
Hurry! – Final Fantasy VII (This is a "chase / intense situation" theme of sorts in VII. It is played in certain intense situations, such as when you have to escape from the pillar in Sector 7. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5wqIafRKms).)
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Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X-2 (The music that plays within the Zanarkand area in Final Fantasy X-2. One of our members, Erebeus once described this music as sounding "like a porn score. High-class porn music, but porn music nevertheless." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2TEYnHAs4I).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
But still
Hurry
It really sounds like it….
But I go with Hurry
Also I would like to hear an actual porn score that sounds like "Zanarkand".
Zanarkand – 7
One of the closest battles yet– "Zanarkand" takes it by just one vote. The next battle is…
Heresy – Final Fantasy VIII (This plays during the sequence involving NORG. It’s a very unusual track and I can see how some might get annoyed by it. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUhY_DFxWgw).)
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Cleyra Settlement – Final Fantasy IX (The music that plays when you’re in Cleyra. Personally, I like this tune, but it’s another I suppose I can see getting old for some after a while, especially since it doesn’t have a lot of variation in it. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZ6tO6yUNk).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
But Cleyra, while being a good track, has the ultimate downfall of having too short a loop which makes it repetitive. So, it has my vote.
You’re a terrible person.
Anyway, I’m voing Cleyra Settlement because Heresy is an awesome song. it went perfect with meeting NORG and made it one of my favorite moments in FF8.
Nothing against both
I kind of like Heresy.
^This.
Cleyra Settlement – 8
Heresy – 5
Next up…
Jenova ABSOLUTE – Final Fantasy VII (This is the music played while fighting the final form of Jenova, Jenova Synthesis. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yX4h8Agi7U).)
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Ambush Attack / City Under Siege – Final Fantasy IX (Another battle / intense situation theme. I remember one place this was used was when the black mages were invading Cleyra. I think it may have also been used during the scene where the Mistodons are chasing you down the Iifa Tree. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvBUSUkQWi0).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
I find this one really overstated and annoying and I actually enjoy the other song.
I like this song for the most part, but between 1:11 -1:42 it gets unbearable.
I HATE THIS SONG SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I find this one really overstated and annoying and I actually enjoy the other song.
Ambush Attack
Jenova ABSOLUTE – 5
Ambush Attack – 6
Very close on that one, but "Ambush Attack" continues to the next round by one vote.
Next battle is…
Hurry! Hurry! – Final Fantasy V (A very frenetic theme that plays during certain situations in FFV, where, well, you have to hurry, or the characters are shown hurrying. Listen to this one here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBVqrWuiRjc).)
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Blue Fields – Final Fantasy VIII (FFVIII’s world map theme. Very laid back compared to the other choice in this battle. Definitely not considered to be one of the more popular world map themes, though it has its fans. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiMZVXEKwr0).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
But I nominated Blue Fields anyway.
I like blue fields.
I like blue fields.
Hurry! Hurry! – 8
Blue Fields – 6
A good battle, but "Hurry! Hurry!" is voted more annoying by two votes. It seems that it’s "toxic." ๐
Next up…
The next battle is…
Fighting – Final Fantasy VII (It’s FFVII’s normal battle theme and plays in well, pretty much anything that constitutes a normal, random battle. Listen to this one here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY1Vetd7OCs).)
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Rivals – Final Fantasy VIII (This plays in the D-District prison during some of the Squall/Seifer interrogation sequences, etc. Apparently it’s also used at Tear’s Point. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul-TY3_tLQU).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
I guess I’ll go with Fighting.
Rivals is just plain awesome.
Seifer: This is the scene where you swear undying hatred for me! The tale of the evil mercenary vs. the sorceress knight… The fun’s just started, Squall. Don’t disappoint menow!
Fighting however would probably get tiresome after the 100th random battle.
I guess I’ll go with Fighting.
EDIT: Besides I like a lot the Piccolo & the changes & progressions in Fighting.
Rivals, because Fighting nevered seemed annoying to me.
Edit: Well, maybe sometimes but there are way more annoying battle themes out there…
Fighting – 7
Rivals – 6
Lot closer than I would have expected based on the initial voting, but "Fighting" moves on by one vote.
We continue with…
Mog – Final Fantasy VI (The theme of the slam-dancing moogle from FFVI. This actually has its origins as "Critter! Tripper! Fritter!" from FFV and later resurfaces as the "Moogle Theme" in FFIX. Listen to it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR37PtzE7uE).)
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To Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X (This is the music used during the game’s opening/flashback sequence and later when you’re actually in Zanarkand. To be honest, I always thought this was rather well-liked, but it was nominated, so here it is. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSWWyCiX6E8).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
I’m guessing To Zanarkand was nominated because of leaving the menu screen open/constantly resetting.
I nominated To Zanarkand because I don’t think it’s as great as everyone says it is, but I listened to it again and it’s alright. I also nominated Mog and I think it is annoying as hell sometimes.
Mog – 9
To Zanarkand – <font color="red">0</font>
"Mog" definitely considered to be the more annoying in this case. Next up…
Boss Battle – Final Fantasy IX (FFIX’s boss battle music– it, of course, plays during most boss battles in the game. Also known as "Battle 2." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2nF6qt49dE).)
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Chocobo – Final Fantasy X-2 (It’s X-2’s chocobo music. Like a lot of the music in this game, it has a very peppy "pop" sound to it. You can listen to it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwUL5OfNgHs), though as is often the case with the X-2 soundtrack, it sounds different in the game itself.)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
I sense another blowout…
Where’s the melody?
@Zak: I love your alternate title.
I sense another blowout…
We can finish this one already, I think…
Chocobo
Boss Battle – <font color="red">0</font>
Chocobo – 12
I get the feeling that "Chocobo" might have a very good shot at winning the whole thing. But meanwhile, we continue with this battle…
J-E-N-O-V-A – Final Fantasy VII (The Jenova battle theme — it plays in the fights against Jenova-BIRTH and Jenova-DEATH. I believe it’s also used in the battle against at least one of the forms of Hojo. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KXiVBA7svc).)
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Giza Plains – Final Fantasy XII (Played throughout the Giza Plains. I think this also plays in certain other areas as well… perhaps the Tchita Uplands? Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbfA4M-5Ca4).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
Gets very annoying after a while.
As much as I love Sakimoto’s style, this song hits my nerve after a while.
Jenova isn’t played that long(except for the final part in the Northen Cave) in VII & I still like it.
J-E-N-O-V-A – 4
Giza Plains – 8
"Giza Plains" wins that one by twice as many votes. And we continue with this battle…
One Winged Angel – Final Fantasy VII (This battle theme, like it or leave it, is played during the battle with Sephiroth’s final form, Safer Sephiroth. It is very popular with many Final Fantasy fans and has inspired a number of remixes, as well as the inclusion of the tune in the Sephiroth battles in the Kingdom Hearts games. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU)… though I would expect everyone here has a full idea of what this song sounds like.)
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Eyes on Me – Final Fantasy VIII (Within the story of the game, this was written by Julia and inspired by Laguna. Originally, she was great at playing music, but couldn’t come up with lyrics. But he inspired her to write a song. It plays during the scene in which the Ragnarok airship is navigated back down to the planet and also during the ending FMV. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qcW0oiLKHg).)
It’s a battle of two different vocal tunes, but which one will be determined to be more irritating / more of an earworm? Cast your votes!
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
I don’t hate it, but I don’t love it.
Edit: Yup it was me. Didn’t see Agent’s post above.
Forgettable song, TERRIBLE LYRICS.
Eyes on Me – 8
A hotly contested battle, but "Eyes on Me" is ultimately chosen as more irritating — pulling ahead of "One Winged Angel." Okay, three battles left in this round. Next up…
Clash on the Big Bridge – Final Fantasy V (The battle theme of Gilgamesh in Final Fantasy V. Personally, I’ve always quite liked this one myself, but I suppose there are those that are annoyed by it. After all, it generally hasn’t gotten all that far in the music rumbles in the past. Also known as simply "Battle with Gilgamesh." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCDCXHXoaI4).)
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Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII (One of several tunes for the Ultimecia battle at the end of the game. This one plays during the part where Ultimecia junctions herself to Griever. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYDT_Y6Jj5c).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
FFVIII is one of my favorite soundtracks, but it has a few clunkers, to be sure.
The opening arpeggio is impressive. The bass line is cool. The section from :27 to :31 actually sounds a lot like Maybe I’m a Lion, which is interesting. But, for me, the the trumpet sound…Ugh.
The Black Mages version is the best, anyway. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aha5Vcshz2c)
The Black Mages version is the best, anyway. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aha5Vcshz2c)
I like FFXII version, but yeah, Black Mages is the best.
Clash on the Big Bridge – 3
Maybe I’m a Lion – 10
Not much of a contest on that one. Two battles left in the round. Next up…
Hurry Faster – Final Fantasy VII (FFVII’s Battle Arena theme– it also plays in at least a couple of other situations, such as trying to stop the train from smashing into North Corel. Listen to it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20p-ORN4NSY).)
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Battle 1 – Final Fantasy IX (The game’s battle theme– it plays during, well, pretty much any normal battle. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MisQqT1IWIU).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
IX’s Battle 1 was one of the few normal battle themes I can actually listen to for a while.
Battle 1 never actually annoyed me.
IX’s Battle 1 was one of the few normal battle themes I can actually listen to for a while.
Battle 1 never actually annoyed me.
But Battle 1 is the less memorable so I’ll go with it.
Hurry Faster – 7
Battle 1 – 3
And now, the final battle of the first round!
Mystery Sword / The Sword of Doubt – Final Fantasy IX (This is the battle theme that plays during the various unwinnable battles against Beatrix. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY01pIK5vME).)
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real emotion – Final Fantasy X-2 (The song played at the concert at the start of the game. The song is allegedly performed by Yuna, but later you find out it was actually performed by Leblanc. There are various versions of this song, but you can watch it as presented in-game in English here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg4zzQ5um2s&feature=fvw).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
So dark and ominous. It perfectly fits the (apparently) merciless and powerful General Beatrix.
So I guess I’ll say real Emotion even if I do like it. Simply because it is understandable how it can annoy some people.
Although listening to it again for the first time in years, I was surprised to find I don’t really hate it anymore.
I don’t really like Mystery Sword either, but this one wins.
EDIT: #8! yay.
I would’ve liked that Shitty Sword of doubt fights with another song. But you can’t beat the spice girls.
I would’ve liked that Shitty Sword of doubt fights with another song. But you can’t beat the spice girls.
Lol, my thoughts exactly.
Mystery Sword – <font color="red">0</font>
real emotion – 14
I think that may be the biggest blowout we’ve ever had before I ended the battle. Let’s look at what’s left for Round 2, then…
Hurry! Hurry! – Final Fantasy V
Mog – Final Fantasy VI
The Wild West – Final Fantasy VI
Fighting – Final Fantasy VII
Hurry Faster – Final Fantasy VII
The Gold Saucer – Final Fantasy VII
Eyes on Me – Final Fantasy VIII
Fragments of Memories – Final Fantasy VIII
Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII
Ambush Attack / City Under Siege – Final Fantasy IX
Cleyra Settlement – Final Fantasy IX
real emotion – Final Fantasy X-2
Chocobo – Final Fantasy X-2
Paine’s Theme – Final Fantasy X-2
Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X-2
Giza Plains – Final Fantasy XII
As usual, the above list is for reference and you can find the updated results in the first post of the thread. The first battle of the round is…
The Gold Saucer – Final Fantasy VII (Aeris/th: "Wow! Let’s have fun! I know this isn’t the right time to do this. Hey, Barret, cheer up!" Barret: "I ain’t in no cheery mood. So jes’ leave me alone." Aeris/th: "Really? That’s too bad. Let’s go!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZbgM8HyhrU).)
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Paine’s Theme – Final Fantasy X-2 (Paine: "What I’m trying to say is that running around with you two has helped me change a lot." Rikku: "What’d we do?" Paine: "Well for one thing, you got me to talk. I… Well I finally feel I can talk about things." Yuna: "That’s good. We thought we were bothering you." Paine: "Oh, you did at first. You never shut up. I was ready to lay down some serious hurt." Yuna: "What!" Paine: "Just at first." Rikku: "Yunie…" Paine: "H-Hey!" Yuna: "Rikku, let’s go." Paine: "Must everything be so dramatic? Hey, wait up!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVmrSy2Qbsw).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
I remember spending HOURS trying to calibrate tower #7 all the way, but in all that time Paine’s Theme didn’t affect me at all. Sure it’s nothing special, but it’s by no means an earworm.
The Gold Saucer….
The Gold Saucer – 9
Paine’s Theme – <font color="red">0</font>
Another blowout. Next up…
The Wild West – Final Fantasy VI (Gau: "Uwao, aooh! I’m Gau, I’m your friend! Let’s travel together!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-lArDIMxoI).)
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Cleyra Settlement – Final Fantasy IX (Forest Oracle Kildea: "Allow me to be your guide and show you our town." Zidane: "Yes, please." Kildea: "Please walk this way, sirs." Quina: "I go find yummy-yummies by myself!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZ6tO6yUNk).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
The Wild West – 4
Cleyra Settlement – 8
"No yummy-yummies" indeed– Cleyra Settlement is on to the quarter-finals. And we move on to this battle…
Fragments of Memories – Final Fantasy VIII (Ellone: "I waited! Am I a good girl?" Laguna: Yes, a good girl! Dear Ellone’s father and mother, Ellone’s been a good girl today. Right?" Ellone: "Yup!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mOMQ_S3OCc).)
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Giza Plains – Final Fantasy XII (Vaan: "I???ve heard all I need. So this, uh, Crescent Stone. Can I have it? Then I can find that secret passage into the palace, right?" Dalan: "Not much of a listener, are you??? The Crescent Stone has lost its Magicks. Without the power of a Sunstone, it will be of little use." Vaan: "Right. So, where can I get one of these Sunstones?" Dalan: "You seek Giza Plains. Speak with the Nomads there. You will find your Sunstone. Leave by Southgate and continue south. Their village is not far. There are like to be beasts on the plains, so be careful, m???boy." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbfA4M-5Ca4).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
Those laguna’s dreams get annoying…
…super annoying!
Those laguna’s dreams get annoying…
My subconciousness doesn’t like it O_o
I like Giza Plains.
While I get annoyed by the twinkling sound, I like the Laguna dreams.
Fragments of Memories – 8
Giza Plains – 4
And the next battle is…
Hurry! Hurry! – Final Fantasy V (Galuf: "What about the Werewolf?" Bartz: "He was probably… swallowed in the flames." Reina: "We have to hurry! The Fire Crystal’s power is what supported this castle!" Butz: "The Crystal shattered. The castle will explode!?" Lenna: "Yes!! There isn’t much time!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBVqrWuiRjc).)
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Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X-2 (Yuna: "This is where we sat that night, the seven of us. I’ve never talked about it. I didn’t want to share my memories. I wanted to keep that feeling, this place within me forever. Now look at it." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2TEYnHAs4I).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
Easily, this song is too short & too repetitive, very vulnerable to be an earworm…
Zanarkand – Final Fantasy X-2
Easily, this song is too short & too repetitive, very vulnerable to be an earworm…
Easily, this song is too short & too repetitive, very vulnerable to be an earworm…
So, Hurry Hurry.
The other one wasn’t really something you would call annoying imo. This on the other hand, very much is.
Zanarkand – 2
Next up:
Maybe I’m a Lion – Final Fantasy VIII (Ultimecia: "I shall junction myself… …Unto Griever!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8h6vt-5B2g).)
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Ambush Attack / City Under Siege – Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "Ha! They got nothin’ on me! But the town’s in trouble! … Enemies are on their way up! How about your side?" Tree Oracle Wylan: "The Burmecians are fighting back, but the demons keep coming…" Sand Oracle Safrea: "We fled, unable to resist any longer…" Zidane: "Damn those Alexandrians!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG_gVtQbKpI).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
Ambush Attack / City Under Siege
The other one is a favorite, lol.
The other one is a favorite, lol.
The other one is a favorite, lol.
Even though I like Maybe I’m a Lion too.
Don’t mind at all! Anyone that wants is welcome to pop in or out as they please– it’s never too late to join and you’re never obligated to vote.
Maybe I’m a Lion – 4
Ambush Attack / City Under Siege – 7
So the "intense situation" theme from IX moves on to the quarter-finals. But we still have three battles left in the current round, so let’s keep it going with…
Hurry Faster – Final Fantasy VII (Cid: "You got guts comin’ after me! I’ll never forget you!" Barret: "Got no time for that now!" Red XIII: "We got it going, but what about the brakes?" Cid: "I KNOW, already! Just shut up and keep quiet! If we keep this up, we’ll crash right into North Corel! Let’s see… if we alternately use the levers to accelerate… It should brake if we move the levers up or down simultaneously!" Barret: "Hey, it’s not working!" Red XIII: "We’re gaining speed!" Cid: "^%#@! The other way!? Just watch, this time, I’ll…" Barret: "Hey… HEY HEY!" Cid: "SHI——-!!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20p-ORN4NSY).)
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Chocobo – Final Fantasy X-2 (Clasko: "Lady Yuna, what should I do?" Yuna: "What’s wrong?" Clasko: "This way, hurry! … The chocobos found it. They seem to have scented one of their own kind!" Paine: "Well?" Yuna: "Well what?" Paine: "’I bet there’s an amazing chocobo inside. But wimpy little me can’t go find it myself.’ Is that it?" Clasko: "Yes! That’s exactly right!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwUL5OfNgHs).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
I’ll go with Hurry Faster
FFX-2’s Chocobo theme is pimpin’!
Ohgodpleasekillmenow de Chocobo
D:
Ohgodpleasekillmenow de Chocobo
Ohgodpleasekillmenow de Chocobo
Chocobo – 8
So "Chocobo" moves on to the next round, interestingly with a number of people quoting Zak, even though he voted for the other choice in this battle. Two battles to go in this round. Next up…
Mog – Final Fantasy VI (Mog: "Thankupo!" Party Member: "Can you talk?!" Mog: "That old psycho, Ramuh, came to me in a dream and told me to be
expectin’ you! And now… I’m…gonna join your party!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR37PtzE7uE))
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Eyes on Me – Final Fantasy VIII (Rinoa: "We’re gonna make it home, right?" Squall: "We can only hope." Rinoa: "When we get back…We won’t be able to stay together, huh?" Squall: "…Maybe. No one can predict the future, there are no guarantees. Those were your words, Rinoa." Rinoa: "That’s not what I meant." Squall: "We’ll figure out what to do once we get back." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qcW0oiLKHg).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
I like Mog theme.
Meh
Mog – 6
Eyes on Me – 8
Pretty close on that one. Okay, now the final battle of the second round…
Fighting – Final Fantasy VII (Aeris/th: "You need to go through Sector 6 to get to Sector 7. Sector 6 is a little dangerous so you’d better get some rest tonight. … Cloud…. Good night." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnVY_ArQoc0&feature=related).)
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real emotion – Final Fantasy X-2 (Shelinda: "Lady Yuna, your concert the other day was nothing short of spectacular!" Yuna: "Well, it was sort of me up there, but not exactly…" Shelinda: "Puzzling words, to be sure. And speaking of puzzling, why the sudden career change to sphere hunting? It sounds like you caused quite a stir with that disappearing act you pulled on Besaid." Just for kicks, check out the longer Koda Kumi version here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fByFORDcNLA), should you so desire.)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
You can’t beat the Spice Girls, plus I like Fighting.
The song above is a great beginning to an explanation of why I hate this game.
Fighting is ok
Fighting is cool.
You can’t beat the Spice Girls, plus I like Fighting.
Fighting – 2
real emotion – 13
Only a couple of votes for "Fighting" — "real emotion" is clearly not very well liked.
That brings another round to an end. Let’s look at what’s left for the quarter-finals…
Hurry! Hurry! – Final Fantasy V
The Gold Saucer – Final Fantasy VII
Eyes on Me – Final Fantasy VIII
Fragments of Memories – Final Fantasy VIII
Ambush Attack / City Under Siege – Final Fantasy IX
Cleyra Settlement – Final Fantasy IX
real emotion – Final Fantasy X-2
Chocobo – Final Fantasy X-2
As always, the list above is just for reference– you can always view the updated results by checking the first post of the thread. First battle of the round…
The Gold Saucer – Final Fantasy VII (Man: "Hey boy." Cloud: "Boy…" Man: "How is it? You having fun? Mmm, so you ARE having fun. Well, good, good for you boy." Cloud: "My name’s Cloud. And stop calling me boy." Dio: "Mmm? Me? I’m the owner of the Gold Saucer. The name’s Dio. Just call me ‘Dio’." Cloud: "………(Not even listening)" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZbgM8HyhrU).)
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Fragments of Memories – Final Fantasy VIII (Ellone: "Raine…Aren’t yoo gonna marry Uncle Laguna?" Raine: "A guy like that? He was carried in here crying like a baby, and I was the one who had to take care of him… His crude way of speaking…I don’t know if his aspirations as a journalist… Every time I try to have a serious conversation, he avoids it… I can’t stand his snoring and he talks in his sleep…" Ellone: "But he’s really nice! I really, really like him! Raine, Uncle Laguna and Elle should all be together!" Raine: "…But you know… I think what he really wants to do is travel all over the world. I don’t think he has it in him to live in a quiet country town like this one. Some people are like that… …Ouuu, it makes me so mad." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mOMQ_S3OCc).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
The Gold Saucer
The Gold Saucer.
The Gold Saucer.
The Gold Saucer.
The Gold Saucer.
The Gold Saucer.
Fragments of Memories – 2
Funny, I expected it to be closer. "The Gold Saucer" is looking really strong for a possibility for the finals. Next up…
Eyes on Me – Final Fantasy VIII ("Julia Heartilly’s song. Julia married the Galbadian General Caraway after releasing "Eyes On Me". Gave birth to a girl one year later. Julia died in a car crash at age 28, right before her daughter turned 5." – From the Term section of the menu. Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qcW0oiLKHg).)
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real emotion – Final Fantasy X-2 (Yuna: "The plan was to sneak into the impostor’s concert and recover the Garment Grid. If I went in, our cover would be blown, so it was up to Rikku and Paine. Which left me with nothing to do but lay low and wait. …and that’s how I got stuck with the Gullwings’ prized…garment. I complained, but Brother’s orders are still orders." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUd2JcauW4s) to the longer version of the song not heard in its entirety in the U.S. version, except this time, it’s Jade singing.)
It’s a battle of the vocal songs. Cast your votes, and…
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
Eyes on Me – 4
real emotion – 7
Next battle…
Ambush Attack / City Under Siege – Final Fantasy IX (Burmecian Kid: "Are we safe now?" Burmecian Kid: "No more monsters?" Zidane: "We’re not safe yet… So stay alert for more!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG_gVtQbKpI).)
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Cleyra Settlement – Final Fantasy IX ( Freya: "I could not bring peace to Burmecia and thus fulfill Sir Fratley’s wish. But now, all I can do is protect this beautiful place." Zidane: "Yeah, protecting Cleyra is the best thing you can do for yourself." Freya: "Doing so will help me." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZ6tO6yUNk).)
This time, it’s FFIX vs. FFIX. Cast your votes and…
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
God How I hate this song…
Cleyra Settlement is slightly worse.
Cleyra Settlement is slightly worse.
Ambush Attack – 3
Cleyra Settlement – 4
Not a lot of votes, but "Cleyra Settlement" moves on to the semi-finals by just one vote. And now we arrive at the final battle to determine those semi-finals…
Hurry! Hurry! – Final Fantasy V (Boco: "Wark! Wark, wark!" Bartz: "I know. It’s an old man and a girl. And there are lots of Goblins around here. Got it, Boco." Lenna: "Eeeeek!" Galuf: "Aaggh!" Bartz: "Boco, let’s hurry!!" Boco: "Wark!!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBVqrWuiRjc).)
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Chocobo – Final Fantasy X-2 (Yuna: "So this is the amazing chocobo?" Paine: "Looks pretty choco-boring." Rikku: "Well, it’s choco-bolting!" Clasko: "Don’t go!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwUL5OfNgHs).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
But I’ve spend more time on FFV, so Hurry! Hurry!
Hurry! Hurry! makes me go 8D
but the Final Fantasy X-2 Chocobo theme makes me go D:
Chocobo – 4
Looks like we have a tie. Been a while since we’ve had one. All right, time to go to the tie-breaker then– we’ll look to the results of past votes…
Hurry! Hurry! – 8/14, 7/9 = 68%
Chocobo – 12/12, 8/12 = 83%
"Chocobo" to the semi-finals easily, largely on the strength of the first round voting.
Time for the semi-finals, and here’s what’s left…
The Gold Saucer – Final Fantasy VII
Cleyra Settlement – Final Fantasy IX
real emotion – Final Fantasy X-2
Chocobo – Final Fantasy X-2
And the first battle is…
The Gold Saucer – Final Fantasy VII (Staff: "Excuse me, sir. I’m sorry. The Tram is out of order right now." Cloud: "…so?" Staff: "I’m really sorry! I’m afraid you won’t be able to leave until it’s fully repaired." Cait Sith: "What’s wrong? … … Too bad. It happens, though. I know! Let’s stay at the hotel! They know me here. I’ll go talk to them." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZbgM8HyhrU).)
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real emotion – Final Fantasy X-2 (Paine: "I could’ve danced all night." Leblanc: "Sorry, no time for an encore." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUd2JcauW4s).)
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
The Gold Saucer I actually enjoy, at least for a lengthy while.
The Gold Saucer, simply because you have to listen to it multiple times during the gameplay.
The Gold Saucer, simply because you have to listen to it multiple times during the gameplay.
The Gold Saucer – 5
real emotion – 4
So it’s "The Gold Saucer" to the final battle of this edition by just one vote. But we still have one battle before that final. And here it is…
Cleyra Settlement – Final Fantasy IX (Forest Oracle Kildea: "The High Priest, who brings peace to our souls, resides in the cathedral. The king of Burmecia and Lady Freya are meeting inside this building. It also houses a harp whose magic stone powers the sandstorm. Let us make our way back. … And that concludes the tour." Zidane: "Thanks a lot!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZ6tO6yUNk).)
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Chocobo – Final Fantasy X-2 (Clasko: "Well, a lot has happened since you brought us the Calm. I ended up following Captain Lucil. When she joined the Youth League, so did I. But I’m still stuck playing tour guide. You know, all I want is to ride on a chocobo…faster than the wind!" Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwUL5OfNgHs).)
Edit– I forgot to put this in, though I think everyone knows it by now anyway…
Keep in mind that you’re voting for the one you find most annoying, or too much of an earworm, as the case may be.
Good gawd.
Chocobo – 6
Cleyra Settlement – 0
And now, the final battle!
The Gold Saucer – Final Fantasy VII (Costa Del Sol Tourist Guide: "Are you interested? This is the road to Gold Saucer. Head south to the Gold Saucer, and you’ll find casinos and an amusement park. But if you’re planning to walk, you’ll have to cross mountains and valleys. I wouldn’t recommend it. But if you’re on a vacation, you should go there at least once." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZbgM8HyhrU).)
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Chocobo – Final Fantasy X-2 (Zak: "Ohgodpleasekillmenow." Listen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwUL5OfNgHs).)
Good gawd.
Can there be blowout in the final?:D
Golden Saucer at least has some variation in it.
Can there be blowout in the final?:D
Indeed…
That’s an appropriate way to end the finals isn’t it?
That’s one way to put it.
Chocobo – 9
And I’m not sure if the vote for "The Gold Saucer" was even legitimate, because I get the feeling it was some n00b who didn’t understand that they were voting for the most annoying. In any case, I get the feeling a lot of us saw that result coming, though I’m not sure I saw "Chocobo" winning by that much of a margin.
<font color="red">Chocobo</font>
That’s all for now, but stay tuned for the next edition! Don’t worry about posting suggestions– I’ll have an idea for the next edition, but it may be about a week or so before we get started again– I want a bit of a break.
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How could you not? lol
That gawdawful music is so obnoxious. Gold Saucer is at least tolerable.
(For me, Gold Saucer is actually borderline-favorite. lol)
That gawdawful music is so obnoxious. Gold Saucer is at least tolerable.
(For me, Gold Saucer is actually borderline-favorite. lol)
I’ll admit I was also surprised. I actually found it a tough choice. Sure Gold Saucer is not bad at first, but I mean you can understand why it was here… Chocobo sucks yes, but you’re never in a situation where you’re forced to listen to it for a long time over and over even when completing the game 100%, and that’s more than I can say for Gold Saucer. Still a hard choice though, I voted Chocobo based on the fact that the other didn’t have a chance and I would feel bad voting against it after Agent quoted me. :p
X-2 music was composed by Noriko Matsueda.
I was surprised, her contributions to Front Mission & Bahamut Lagoon were actually pretty good.
Actually it’s probably because the first thing they hear is Real Emotion… and it’s kinda hard not to judge beyond that since that makes itself out to be the cover song.
Then again they do hear "Eternity Memory of Lightwaves" on the menu… so maybe. But… really there are many amazing tracks on the OST. That, Under Bevelle, Demise, Calm Lands, Infiltration, Guadosalam (which was better than X’s), Summoned Beast, Gagazet, Young Alliance… all great tracks. Most hear Real Emotion and think "ahh X-2’s OST is teenage pop", and it’s true that a lot of the happy tunes have that tone, even the battle music is kind of mediocre and the scrapping of the classic victory fanfare. It really didn’t recycle ANYTHING. But, the "dark" tracks are good.
But the three character themes for the girls, while they do have the pop-ish feel, they’re actually pretty awesome. Well, not so much Paine’s.
EDIT: "Vegnagun Starting" is also amazing.
And there’s a nice Good Night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPQNaoao5Y0) song…
And… Hmm…
I’m done.
Those anti-rumbles are pretty fun, so how about "Most annoying/hated character" or "Facepalm moments"?:D
FFIX: Cid changing from an oglop into a frog? Or rather stuff like Zidane going "Ooh… soft." ^_-
Don’t worry about posting suggestions– I’ll have an idea for the next edition, but it may be about a week or so before we get started again– I want a bit of a break.
Oh, and I really don’t think I want to do another "anti-rumble" right away– not one followed up immediately by another anyway.
Some examples of what I mean — Stock Break, Mime, Revive, etc.
But I think limits should be included because sometimes they can really specifically come in handy for certain things, like Barret’s Ungarmax for Ruby Weapon… but only those.
Agent, you are talking about in-battle commands only, are you not? For instance, this would exclude Encounter-None, Expendx3, HP+80%, and the like?
And going for only in-battle commands or also including stat abilities: I wouldn’t mind eitherway. =)
Also "Night Sword" /"Shadowblade" of Gafgarion and Orlandu, were cool abilities.
Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater, etc. – Many FFs
Revive – Many FFs
Kamikaze / Self-Destruct – Many FFs
Mime – Many FFs
Throw / Dart – Many FFs
Coin Toss / Spare Change, etc. – Many FFs
Sense / Libra / Scan – Many FFs
Steal – Many FFs
Mug – Many FFs
Stat Break – Many FFs
Jump / High Jump -Many FFs
Manipulate / Control – Several FFs
Metamorphose / Morph / Poach / Trasnmute – Final Fantasy VI, VII, XII, TA2
Climhazzard – Final Fantasy IX, Tactics, Dissidia
Mix – Final Fantasy V, X and X-2
Sketch – Final Fantasy VI
Deathblow – Final Fantasy VII
Double Cut – Final Fantasy VII
Slash All / Flash – Final Fantasy VII
Card – Final Fantasy VIII
Devour – Final Fantasy VIII
Lvl Up / Down – Final Fantasy VIII
Treatment – Final Fantasy VIII
Entrust – Final Fantasy X
Triple Foul – Final Fantasy X
Use – Final Fantasy X
Quick Hit – Final Fantasy X and Dissidia
Bribe – Final Fantasy X and X-2
Horology – Final Fantasy XII
Numerology – Final Fantasy XII
Arithmeticks – Final Fantasy Tactics
Night Sword / Shadowblade – Final Fantasy Tactics
I’ve tried to include a good selection of both abilities unique to specific games and ones that span the various games. If you don’t see your favorite, well, sorry, but nominations were open for several days and only a few were posted. Let’s get started!
First battle…
Throw / Dart – Many FFs (A popular command ability that allows a character to throw a weapon. It is generally specific to the Ninja job class, if job classes are used within the particular FF in which it appears. In some games, you can buy types of shurikens or skeans specifically for the purpose of throwing. Also, in many cases, you can throw weapons that are in your inventory, oftentimes doing more damage than if they had simply been used in a normal attack. Other benefits of this ability are that it sometimes ignores defenses and it can be useful against aerial opponents.)
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Bribe – Final Fantasy X and X-2 (A special ability specific to FFX and X-2. Instead of actually fighting an enemy, why not simply bribe it to go away and gain some potentially cool items in the process? In FFX, this ability was found on Rikku’s area of the Sphere Grid, but like all abilities, all characters could eventually learn it. Though the gil needed was often steep, using this ability was a great way to gain some rare items, such as Door to Tomorrow, Gambler’s Spirit and Underdog’s Secret. In Final Fantasy X-2, this ability was gained via the Lady Luck dressphere. Once again, you could get some great items, such as various Lore and Tome items and the Supreme Gem, for a price. Or, by manipulating the Lady Luck’s Random Reels, you could get CONGRATS!, which would not only bribe the enemy at no cost to you, but also gain you a bunch of gil.)
Use the duplicate item glitch on Excalibur in FFIV and start throwing them.
Also Smarty, how come you haven’t been at my rumble the last few rounds eh? ๐
Throw / Dart – 4
Bribe – 3
Close one, but Throw / Dart takes it by one vote. Next up…
Manipulate / Control – Several FFs (An ability that allows you to manipulate or control your enemies, sometimes even offering access to attacks that wouldn’t normally be available. Can sometimes be used to easily learn types of Blue Magic or Enemy Skills and in the case of healing types, it can sometimes be the only way to do so.)
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Devour – Final Fantasy VIII (A quirky ability from FFVIII that can be learned from either Eden or via the Hungry Cookpot item. When you use it, it will say that it is "censored… please stand by" and show an image either daffodils, the ocean or the flower field. If it’s successful, you’ll hear the monster being eaten, if not, a buzzer. Eating certain enemies can restore health and or status and there are some that will even boost one of the stats of the character that used the command. However, devouring the wrong enemies will result in unpleasant effects, such as loss of HP and negative status.)
Though I never really got around to trying the other…
Why not?
Though, Devour was useful if only you had a guide in your hands.
Devour – 2
As for Eat possibly being the same thing, I suppose it is similar, but I seem to recall that with it, you actually get to see Quina do the eating, and what the ability actually does for the character is different (teaches Blue Magic.) In any case, Manipulate / Control wins easily.
Next battle…
Mug – Many FFs (An upgraded version of the Steal command that attempts to attack the enemy and steal from it at the same time. Can be good if you want to damage the enemy and get an item in the process. However, if you really want the item, then it might be something to avoid, because you could end up killing the target before the steal can be successful.)
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Slash All / Flash – Final Fantasy VII (Ability granted by a command materia that comes in two flavors. Slash All grants a physical attack on all targets. Flash attempts an instant death maneuver on all targets. Can be very useful, assuming that the targets are susceptible to instant death. If not, it’ll miss. Usually works pretty well though against Movers, and Magic Pots, once you’ve given them Elixirs.)
However, if you really want the item, then it might be something to avoid, because you could end up killing the target before the steal can be successful.
Slash All / Flash – 3
Mug moves on to the next round, despite the "kill the enemy" issue.
Next battle…
Sense / Libra / Scan – Many FFs (A useful ability found in most FF games. It tends work a bit differently from game to game, but the basics are always pretty much the same– it provides information about the target’s stats, such as the current HP and MP.)
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Use – Final Fantasy X (Rikku starts with this ability in FFX, but like any other ability on the Sphere Grid, other characters can eventually use it. It’s basically a special version of the "Item" command that allows the use of items that otherwise aren’t usable, such as the Al Bhed Potions and various elemental gems.)
Why did they change the name to "Libra" anyway? Are Libras supposed to be especially perceptive?
Why did they change the name to "Libra" anyway? Are Libras supposed to be especially perceptive?
I can’t really say I used it much in any FF other than XII, though.
I can’t really say I used it much in any FF other than XII, though.
Yeah, I don’t think I went once through the game without having a Bangle equipped somewhere in my party…
And by the way arthur, in the Japanese original version, I’m pretty sure every game it’s called "Libra" originally. Americans changed the name to "Scan" and it kind of stuck, but some like XII and X-2 keep the name "Libra". But that is what it was originally.
Why did they change the name to "Libra" anyway? Are Libras supposed to be especially perceptive?
Libra is in XII atleast
I can’t really say I used it much in any FF other than XII, though.
That’s kind of a bad idea since you can just create a gambit for someone to do it automatically whenever necessary. That accessory slot could be better used.
Use – 1
Pretty one-sided there– Sense / Libra / Scan easily moves on to Round 2. And arthurgolden, regarding your question about why exactly "Libra" is used, Final Fantasy Wiki offers to theories. The first suggests that it has to do with the qualities of the Libra zodiac, the other is that it stems from the Japanese romanization of the word "library."
Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater, etc. – Many FFs (An ability often associated with the Dark Knight class. Allows a character to sacrifice a relatively small amount of HP for a large amount of damage.)
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Quick Hit – Final Fantasy X and Dissidia (In FFX, for just a small amount of MP this ability allowed a character to make a fast attack, meaning that they could get in numerous hits potentially before the enemy could even get a turn. It only cost 8 MP originally, but the cost was raised greatly in the European and International versions, to 36 MP. It appears at the end of Tidus’s portion of the Sphere Grid. This one made a return appearance in Dissidia as a move for Tidus only, with five variations.)
Thanks for looking that up! With that information, it seems like the romanization theory might have more credibility. All Wikipedia says about a Libra personality is that they are "fiesty and fiery individuals"–which doesn’t really seem to fit. Of course, that might not be the whole story. I know nothing about astrology.
Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater
Quick Hit – 1
A final word on "Libra" – arthurgolden, what Final Fantasy Wiki has to say about the Zodiac theory is that Libra is apparently known as the "scales of balance." So the idea is that the Libra spell could fit that because it helps you to balance the scales of the battle by giving you information needed to defeat the enemy.
On we go! Noticing a pattern so far– abilities seen in multiple FFs so far have one every battle. Yet to have a single ability win that’s specific to only or two games. Let’s see whether or not that keeps up with this next battle…
Kamikaze / Self-Destruct – Many FFs (It is often a blue magic, but since it is also sometimes a command, I decided to include it. It is often used by enemies, but is sometimes made available to the player. Essentially, use of the command sacrifices the user’s life to deal heavy damage to the target. Sort of like the Darkness command from the previous battle, but up to eleven. It is sometimes associated with the fire element.)
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Sketch – Final Fantasy VI (Relm’s special ability in Final Fantasy VI. By sketching an enemy, Relm could sometimes turn its own attacks against it. This ability was key in one of the Ultros battles. "Uncle Ulty really wants you to paint his portrait!" In early releases of the game [but neither Anthology nor Advanced], this command was highly bugged and activating the bug could have any number of strange effects, such as loading the inventory with tons of items, causing the game to freeze or erasing all data.)
Ah. Thanks for the extra info!
Sketch
Kamikaze / Self-Destruct – 3
Sketch – 4
And so the first time in this edition, an ability only found in one particular game wins a battle.
Next up…
Jump / High Jump -Many FFs (An ability usually associated with dragoon / dragon knight types. Sometimes it is only available for a certain character or characters in a game, in other cases, any character could use it if equipped with the right accessory, etc. The character will leap into the air, temporarily removing them from the battle and therefore not subject to attacks during that time. They will then come back down, landing a powerful blow.)
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Numerology – Final Fantasy XII (A technick found exclusively in FFXII. It deals damage based on hits dealt, doubling each time. However, as FFWiki explains, it can be very inaccurate, so it could be troublesome to get it do large damage. Used enough, though, it can break the damage limit and do some very strong damage, however, most of the tougher enemies are immune to it.)
Works great, is a solid move, and the other one seems… like shit.
Jump/High Jump – 6
Numerology – 0
Stat Break – Many FFs (A mixture of ability types that includes Power Break, Armor Break, Mental Break and Magic Break. Basically what it boils down to is that using one of these abilities will generally reduce some statistic of your opponents’, such as their strength or magic. Some targets are immune to it, though.)
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LV Up / Down – Final Fantasy VIII (A pairing of abilities unique to Final Fantasy VIII, available from the Tonberry GF. They allow you to raise or lower the level of a target, which can be very useful in this game where certain items and magic can only be gained from targets of a certain level.)
LV Up / Down – 2
A fairly easy victory for Stat Break. Next battle is…
Metamorphose / Morph / Poach / Transmute – Final Fantasy VI, VII, XII, TA2 (An ability type in several FFs, the basic gist of which is that you can convert the enemy into an item, accessory, etc. Sometimes the easiest way to get rare items, such as stat boosting items or Ribbon accessories.)
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Entrust – Final Fantasy X (An ability unique to Final Fantasy X. It allows you to transfer the whole of the users’ Overdrive gauge to another character in the active party.)
I only played FFVII and FFXII as far as the other one goes, and found that there were far better ways to get the item you were after.
Entrust – 3
Entrust actually put up a bit of a fight, but the Metamorphose class of abilities still wins fairly easily. Next up…
Mix – Final Fantasy V, X and X-2 (Okay, so technically it’s an Overdrive in X, but it still gets included here since it was just a regular ability in Final Fantasy V and X-2. A lot of people may not remember it from Final Fantasy V, but no matter which game it appeared, it had the same effect– you can mix two items to produce special effects, some of them very powerful and some unique.)
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Card – Final Fantasy VIII (Ability unique to FFVIII and its card game. It can turn an enemy into a card, though it has a much greater chance of doing so if you weaken the enemy first. Normally it will just turn the target into a card of that enemy type, but if you’re lucky, you may get a rare boss card instead. This ability does not work on certain types of enemies, including bosses.)
Also Argus that’s interesting but I never really thought of what Quina does as "Morph"… though it makes sense now that I think about it.
Card – 2
Mix moves easily to the second round.
Next battle…
Mime – Many FFs (Found in several FFs, the "Mime" ability allows a character to mimic the last action performed by either themself or ally without expending any MP. Generally works with any action except something like a limit break.)
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Arithmeticks – Final Fantasy Tactics (Not having played Tactics, I’m not really familiar with this. But according FFWiki, it is also known as Math Skill and used exclusively by Arithmetician job class. Here’s what it has to say: "The Artihmeticks command is unique in that it uses abilities from other command ability sets, specifically Black Magicks, White Magicks, Time Magicks, and Mystic Arts. However, by applying mathematical conditions to the spell, the Arithmetician can cast the spell on anybody on the field who meets the conditions, for no MP cost, and ignoring all distance and height. For example, by choosing the condition level, the number 5 and the spell Death, the Arithmetician can cast the classic spell Level 5 Death.")
Math Skill is so unbalanced in that game. But the Idea is great.
Math Skill is so unbalanced in that game. But the Idea is great.
Arithmeticks – 2
Moving on with…
Coin Toss / Spare Change, etc. – Many FFs (Associated generally with the Samurai class, it allows you to toss your gil at the target to achieve damage. It usually hits all targets and can break the damage limit in games such as X-2, such that it can easily be an instant win.)
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Triple Foul – Final Fantasy X (An ability that appears on Wakka’s portion of the Sphere Grid. It has a very high chance to afflict a target with Blind, Sleep and Silence for three turns, assuming the target isn’t immune to those statuses.)
Coin is the most stupid skill in FF ever IMO. I can’t understand how it still exist.
Triple Foul – 2
Not just flushing your money down the drain– Coin Toss easily travels to the second round. Next up…
Revive – Many FFs (Seen in a number of Final Fantasies. Function can vary from game to game, but usually it will revive a single target to full HP without costing any MP. Notably, FFXII has a Technick called "Revive," but it seems to work more like the Sacrifice ability.)
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Deathblow – Final Fantasy VII (Command ability granted by a special materia. It sacrifices accuracy to attempt to deliver a critical hit.)
Deathblow – 2
Revive – 5
We’re getting fairly close to the end of the round. Next battle is…
Double Cut / Barrage / X-Fight, etc. (I originally listed this as simply Double Cut – Final Fantasy VII, but this sort of ability actually shows up in many of the FFs. In any case, it allows you to attack several times with a single command. Sometimes it may do reduced damage, but oftentimes you still get the full damage for each attack.)
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Horology – Final Fantasy XII (A Technick in Final Fantasy XII that deals damage based on the characters’ level and the game’s clock. Damage for this skill caps at 4,009 HP… so, yeah…)
Double Cut, etc. – 4
Horology – <font color="red">0</font> – 0
Next battle…
Climhazzard – Final Fantasy IX, Tactics, Dissidia (This one was originally a Limit Break of Cloud’s, but since it was also a regular ability in other games, it gets included. In IX, both Beatrix and Steiner have this ability. It attacks all targets for twice the usual physical damage. Beatrix also uses it at the end of the final battle with her– in that battle, it reduces the HP of your entire party to 1. In Tactics, it is an ability available to Soldier/Cloud and deals damage to a target equal to the amount of damage the target has already taken. Finally, in Dissidia, it is a Brave attack for Cloud that allows him to charge forward, ram the opponent, then leap into the air and slam the opponent into the ground with his sword.)
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Treatment – Final Fantasy VIII (A command ability taught by either the Siren GF or the item Med Kit. It works basically like an Esuna spell, but with a couple of bonuses– it can still be used when under Silence status and it can cure Doom status, but Esuna magic can’t.)
Esuna with no MP consumption, are you kidding me?
There is no MP in 8. Treatment actually saves you from literally wasting Esuna spells.
Yeah I played the game & I forgot about that aspect, But I think I made my point with that statement.
Treatment – 2
And now, the final battle of the first round…
Steal – Many FFs (A useful ability found in many FFs. Sometimes it’s available to only one character (i.e. Zidane – Final Fantasy IX) or character class (Thief), but in other games it’s made available to any character. Allows you to steal an item, obviously, but the way it works can also vary from game to game and based on the monster, with stealing be very easy to almost impossibly difficult.)
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Night Sword / Shadowblade – Final Fantasy Tactics (Again, I haven’t played Final Fantasy Tactics, so I don’t really claim to know anything about this. But the Final Fantasy Wiki says that this is a sub-ability of Argath’s Fell Sword techniques and it uses the power darkness to absorb an enemy’s HP, with a range of 3 and an effect of 1 at a rate of 100 JP.)
Steal has low rate of success & systematically doesn’t work well IMO.
Steal makes my head heart at times. =\
On extremely rare occasion, I get something nice with it.
Steal – 0
Night Sword / Shadowblade – 3
Wasn’t expecting that result, but I guess Steal is just frustrating.
That ends the first round, which it seems was mostly about cutting abilities specific to only one title, with only two exceptions. So here’s what’s left for the second round…
Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater, etc. – Many FFs
Revive – Many FFs
Mime – Many FFs
Throw / Dart – Many FFs
Coin Toss / Spare Change, etc. – Many FFs
Sense / Libra / Scan – Many FFs
Mug – Many FFs
Stat Break – Many FFs
Jump / High Jump -Many FFs
Double Cut / Barrage / X-Fight, etc. – Many FFs
Manipulate / Control – Several FFs
Metamorphose / Morph / Poach / Transmute – Final Fantasy VI, VII, XII, TA2
Climhazzard – Final Fantasy IX, Tactics, Dissidia
Mix – Final Fantasy V, X and X-2
Sketch – Final Fantasy VI
Night Sword / Shadowblade – Final Fantasy Tactics
As usual, the above list is only for reference and you can take a look at the updated results in the first post of the thread. But now the first battle of the second round…
Throw / Dart – Many FFs
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Mix – Final Fantasy V, X and X-2
P.S.: Unless some more people express their interest in seeing it continuing, I’m probably going to be shutting down the FFVIII Rumble soon. So if you are interested in seeing it still going, then you’ll wanna stop by there and let me know.
Throw – 3
Mix it is, by a nose. Next battle…
Revive – Many FFs
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Jump / High Jump -Many FFs
Revive, I guess.
Jump / High Jump – 1
Easy victory for Revive. Next up…
Mime – Many FFs
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Sketch – Final Fantasy VI
Sketch – 2
And so one of the only two remaining abilities unique to a single game bites the dust.
Next we have…
Sense / Libra / Scan – Many FFs
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Manipulate / Control – Several FFs
Manipulate / Control – 0
Interesting, I kinda thought the battle might go the other way.
All right, next up…
Coin Toss / Spare Change, etc. – Many FFs
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Metamorphose / Morph / Poach / Transmute – Final Fantasy VI, VII, XII, TA2
Metamorphose/Morph/Poach/Transmute – 3
Hrm, we have a tie. All right, to the tie-breaker we go…
Coin Toss/Spare Change – 6/8 = 75%
Metamorphose/Morph/Poach/Transmute – 3 – 6/9 = 66.6%
Coin Toss/Spare Change it is then, because of just one more vote against the other.
Next battle…
Mug – Many FFs
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Double Cut / Barrage / X-Fight, etc. – Many FFs
Mug – 3
Double Cut / Barrage / X-Fight – 0
Stat Break – Many FFs (Note– class of abilities that includes stuff like Power Break and Armor Break.)
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Night Sword / Shadowblade – Final Fantasy Tactics
Hah, in XII, Dispel took this job, since just about every fucking enemy was protected/shelled or strengthened by default.
Stat Break – 4
Night Sword / Shadowblade – 0
And so the final ability unique to just one particular FF falls.
And now, the final battle of the second round…
Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater, etc. – Many FFs
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Climhazzard – Final Fantasy IX, Tactics, Dissidia
You guys are forgetting to use BOLD.
Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater – 2
Climhazzard – 4
And that’s it, that’s the end of the second round. Let’s see what we’ve got left for the the quarter-finals…
Revive – Many FFs
Mime – Many FFs
Coin Toss / Spare Change, etc. – Many FFs
Sense / Libra / Scan – Many FFs
Mug – Many FFs
Stat Break – Many FFs
Climhazzard – Final Fantasy IX, Tactics, Dissidia
Mix – Final Fantasy V, X and X-2
As usual, that list is for reference and you can check the updated results in the first post the thread.
First battle of the quarter-finals is…
Mime – Many FFs
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Mix – Final Fantasy V, X and X-2
Mime – 4
Mix – 2
And our next battle is…
Sense / Libra / Scan – Many FFs
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Mug – Many FFs
Attacking and stealing; what’s not to like?
Attacking and stealing; what’s not to like?
Mug – 3
So it’s Mug by one vote. And our next quarter-final battle is…
Revive – Many FFs
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Climhazzard – Final Fantasy IX, Tactics, Dissidia
Essential.
Revive – 6
Climhazzard – <font color="red">0</font>
Obvious blowout for Revive, which is looking very good going into the semi-finals. But we still have one battle left before we get to those, so let’s get to it!
Coin Toss / Spare Change, etc. – Many FFs
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Stat Break – Many FFs (Set of abilities that include Mental Break and Power Break, amongst others.)
Coin Toss / Spare Change, etc – <font color="red">0</font>
Stat Break – 5
That’s the end of the quarter-finals. That means it’s time for the semi-finals, and here’s what’s left for the semis…
Revive – Many FFs
Mime – Many FFs
Mug – Many FFs
Stat Break – Many FFs
And the first battle is…
Revive – Many FFs
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Stat Break – Many FFs
Stat Break – 3
Hmm… a tie. All right, looks like we’ll have to go to the tie-breaker…
Stat Break – 6/8, 4/4, 5/5 = 75%, 100%, 100% = 92%
Revive – 5/7, 4/5, 6/6 = 71%, 80%, 100% = 84%
Stat Break it is then, to the final round. And our second semi-final is…
Mime – Many FFs
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Mug – Many FFs
Mime – 1
Mug – 5
Time for the final battle of this edition!
Mug – Many FFs (This ability’s counterpart, Steal, was eliminated fairly early on, but for some reason this version has had staying power. Perhaps it’s the fact that even if the stealing portion is unreliable, you can at least still get some damage in. The downside, is of course, that you potentially end up killing the enemy before you get to steal what you want.)
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Stat Break – Many FFs (A set of abilities that include Power Break, Armor Break, etc. Doesn’t really seem all that exciting, but it’s had surprising staying power as well. It can be very helpful to weaken enemies that otherwise could be really tough.)
Mugging people monsters is fun!
Mug – 4
Stat Break – 0
Well, despite Stat Break’s seeming popularity, there’s an obvious favorite here. The winner of the command abilities edition of General Final Fantasy Rumble is…
<font color="red">Mug</font>
Its cousin, Steal, was eliminated early on, but it seemed this version had what it took.
So that is it for that edition. What do you guys think about Support Abilities for the next one?
Support abilities work for me, although I’d be all for pretty much anything
No Encounters
More Encounters
HP Augment
MP Augment
Chemist
Break HP Limit
Break Damage Limit
Gillionaire
Alert
Initiative
Auto Haste
Auto Potion
Auto Regen
Auto Shell
Auto Protect
Auto Life
Auto Float
Killer
Counter
Magic Counter
Evade & Counter
Final Attack
Ribbon
Cover
Move-Find – Final Fantasy VIII
Level Up
Ability Up
Master Thief
Zero MP Cost
HP Stroll
MP Stroll
Elemental Strike
Support abilities seem to rarely be specific to a single game– in fact, the only unique one that I have here is Move-Find. Anyways, as always, the above list is for reference and you can find the updated results in the first post of the thread. Let’s get started. First battle…
HP Augment (A class of abilities that raises characters’ HP. It’s often expressed as a percentage, though in other cases, it may be expressed as a specific number, or as "Double HP," etc. If you’re trying to defeat tough enemies with a lower level party, this can be a very useful ability to have, allowing them go against foes that would normally slaughter them outright.)
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Auto Haste (Automatically bestows the Haste status upon a character at the start of battle, allowing them to act much more quickly than normal. Speed through the battle without having to first cast Haste, or worry about it wearing off.)
I just like her aesthetically, for the most part. =p
HP Augment – 0
Auto Haste – 2
Next battle…
No Encounters (A useful support ability that unfortunately is only found in some FF games. It nullifies all random encounters, allowing you to adventure and level up your characters as you see fit and not deal with battles when you don’t want to.)
vs.
Final Attack (Allows a character to access a final move before dying. I think it may only be present for your characters in Final Fantasy VII, though opponents in a number of different FFs like to use it. A common combination was Final Attack / Phoenix to automatically bring characters back to life.)
Final Fantasy VI had Final Attacks, as well. The game just never told you about it. Here’s a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc3f00xAJFc) of all of them. Personally, I found out about it by accident. Celes was low on HP and when I hit attack, she did her "limit", so to speak, and it made me curious.
Final Attack – 1
Okay, easy win for No Encounters. Next up…
Break Damage Limit (Allows attacks to break the 9999 per hit damage limit, generally allowing them to go up to 99999 instead. Though Final Fantasy VIII had moves that could do more than 9999 in one hit, I believe Final Fantasy X was the first to officially include a Break Damage Limit ability.)
vs.
Master Thief (A support ability for thieves or those using thievery skills that allows them a better shot of stealing rare items and equipment.)
Break Damage Limit – 6
Master Thief – 1
Next up:
Auto Regen (Keeps your characters in a constant regen status, allowing them to recover HP over time without having to cast the Regen spell and not having to worry so much about using curative magic.)
vs.
Level Up (Sometimes expressed as Double EXP, etc. Increases the amount of EXP earned following a battle, allowing your characters to gain levels faster than normal.)
Level Up wins.
Next up…
Alert (Guards against annoying back attacks or pincer attacks that give the enemy the upper-hand at the start of battle.)
vs.
Ribbon (Usually protects against all status ailments. Most useful when facing opponents that thrive against using them as their stock-in-trade, such as Malboros.)
Ribbon – 4
No contest, really. Okay, next battle is…
Auto Life (Automatically revives a character once after they have been KOed. Is granted automatically in the final battles in Final Fantasy X, making it almost impossible to lose them. Otherwise, you have to recast it in order for it remain in effect.)
vs.
HP Stroll (Allows characters to regain HP automatically while they walk, cutting down on the need for curative spells in-between battles. If the game allows you to combine accessories, you could combine a Charm Bangle or other No Encounters device to recover all HP without having to worry about any battles until you’re ready.)
Also, the thing at the end of FFX is actually Auto-Auto-Life. :p
Isn’t that more or less what I said? Anyways…
Auto Life – 4
HP Stroll – 1
Not a blowout, but not much of a contest. Next up…
More Encounters (Increases the rate of random encounters, allowing you to build up your characters or perform other battling tasks [such as catching chocobos] without so much tedious running around between battles.)
vs.
Elemental Strike (Adds a particular element to a weapon’s attack, allowing you do elemental damage (or healing) with that attack in addition to the usual physical damage.)
More Encounters – 0
Elemental Strike – 2
Personally, I would have voted for More Encounters, as it’s saved me a lot of tedious time-wasting, but that’s just me. Next up…
Initiative (Either allows the party to begin the battle with full ATB bars, or raises the chance of a Preemptive Strike, allowing the party a tactical advantage at the beginning of battle.)
vs.
Counter (Your basic counterattack ability. When your character is attacked physically, there’s a chance that they might strike back with a physical attack.)
I always like Initiative, but Counter is inconvenient when I least need it to be.
Counter – 3
Counter squeaks that one out. Next battle is…
Killer (This class of abilities enables you to do more damage to certain types of foes– for example birds or undead.)
vs.
Cover (This support ability allows a character to "cover" for another, standing in to take damage from an attack aimed at one of your party members. [Presumably one with more HP or higher defense defending for a weaker character.])
Killer – 4
Cover – 0
More damage preferred to protecting allies. Next up…
Gillionaire (Earn more gil after each battle.)
vs.
Auto Protect (Grants Protect status automatically, limiting the damage a character takes throughout the battle.)
Auto Protect – 1
Interesting. I probably would have voted for Auto Protect. Let’s continue. Next battle…
Evade & Counter (An advanced version of counter that allows you to evade the enemy’s physical attack attempt and then strike back.)
vs.
Ability Up (An ability that allows you to gain more AP [or whatever the particular game’s term for it is] at the end of each battle, allowing you to learn other abilities or gain stat enhancements more quickly.)
Evade & Counter – <font color="red">0</font>
Ability Up – 4
The next battle is…
Break HP Limit (Allows your characters to break the maximum HP limit, meaning they can have more than 9999 HP.)
vs.
Auto Shell (Automatically places your characters in Shell status, limiting the damage they take from magic based attacks [though sometimes also halfing healing effects as well.])
@aces4839 FFX & FFXII IZJS
Break HP Limit – 4
Auto Shell – <font color="red">0</font>
We’re getting close to the end of the first round. Next up…
MP Augment (Often expressed as a percentage, this increases your characters’ MP, allowing them to use more magic or abilities.)
vs.
Magic Counter (Sometimes known as Return Magic. After your character is hit with magic, they can strike back with a physical attack, or in some cases, the same magic cast against them, depending on the game in question.)
ok thanks. played both games but didnt see those abilities. didnt get far enough in either, i guess.
MP Augment is my vote.
MP Augment – 4
Magic Counter – <font color="red">0</font>
Next battle is…
Auto Float (Automatically grants your characters the Float status, enabling them to avoid Earth based attacks.)
vs.
MP Stroll (Gradually builds MP while walking, allowing characters to restore MP without having to burn through Ethers, etc. Combined with no or low encounters abilities, it can be a great aid in quickly restoring your characters’ MP.)
no other way to meet Rydia’s parents
MP Stroll – 2
Close one, but it seems Auto Float is vital for some. Next battle, we have…
Move-Find – Final Fantasy VIII (Unique to Final Fantasy VIII, this allows you to find save and draw points that are otherwise hidden, including a valuable Ultima draw point and a save point in the room where you activate the battle with Ultima Weapon.)
vs.
Zero MP Cost (Reduces MP Cost in battle to zero, allowing unlimited use of magic and abilities, provided that your character isn’t Silenced.)
Zero MP Cost – 4
And now for the final rose of the evening… sorry, final battle of the round:
Chemist (A support ability that doubles the effect of restorative items.)
vs.
Auto Potion (Automatically heals your characters with a potion type item when your characters are attacked. To maximize the effects, stock only the highest level potions you have available and don’t stock any others, because it prioritizes those with the lowest healing value. Some enemies also have this ability.)
Auto Potion – 1
Chemist easily wins! And that’s the end of the first round. Get ready for the next round, starting tomorrow evening!
No Encounters
MP Augment
Chemist
Break HP Limit
Break Damage Limit
Gillionaire
Auto Life
Auto Float
Killer
Counter
Ribbon
Level Up
Ability Up
Master Thief
Zero MP Cost
Elemental Strike
As always, the above list is for reference and you can find the update results in the first post of the thread. The first battle of this round is…
Break HP Limit
vs.
Level Up
Break HP Limit – 1
Level Up – 3
Next battle:
No Encounters
vs.
Master Thief
No Encounters – 5
Master Thief – 3
A good battle, but No Encounters wins that one. Next up…
Auto Life
vs.
Counter
Auto Life – 4
Counter – <font color="red">0</font>
The next battle is:
MP Augment
vs.
Elemental Strike
Elemental Strike – <font color="red">0</font>
Next battle…
Gillonaire
vs.
Killer (In case anyone forgets, this refers to the class of abilities that allows you to do greater damage to certain types of enemies.)
what pic is that on ur avatar, agent?
Is "Killer" in anything other than X-2?
ah, i see. shouldve recognized him when i tried it at a gamestop when it was on a ps3 there, but its been a few months or so since i last tried it. havent played the game fully yet.
Killer – 3
And our next battle is…
Ribbon
vs.
Zero MP Cost
What game has ZERO MP Cost? I know of several with One…
What game has ZERO MP Cost? I know of several with One…
X (by using Three Stars and Rikku’s Mix), X-2 (Ragnarok accessory, MP Mambo Songstress ability, SOS Spellspring Lady Luck ability) and Crisis Core.
Ribbon – 2
Zero MP Cost – 1
Just a couple of battles left in Round 2. Here’s the next one…
Break Damage Limit
vs.
Ability Up
Break Damage Limit is pretty essential in X’s arena, though.
Ability Up – 4
Ability / AP Up easily wins that one and it moves on to the Quarter Finals. And now, the final battle of Round 2!
Chemist
vs.
Auto Float
Chemist – 2
Auto Float – 1
Time for the quarter-finals! Here’s what’s left for those:
No Encounters
MP Augment
Chemist
Gillionaire
Auto Life
Ribbon
Level Up
Ability Up
The above list is only for reference, but you can find the updated results in the first post of the thread. First battle of the quarter-finals:
No Encounters
vs.
Ribbon
Don’t forget to set your clocks back if you haven’t already and you’re in a place where you need to.
No Encounters was only truly useful in VIII. Ribbon on the other hand is one of the best abilities to have in any game ๐
Ribbon – 3
A fairly easy victory for Ribbon. Next up…
Level Up
vs.
Ability Up
Ability Up – 5
Ability Up comes on top! Next battle of the quarter-finals:
Chemist
vs.
Gillionaire
Chemist – 2
Gillionaire – 2
Let’s go to the tie-breaker, check the results of past rounds…
Chemist – 4/5, 2/3 = 80%, 66%
Gillionaire – 4/5, 4/7 = 80%, 57%
Chemist wins, barely. And now, the final battle of the quarter finals:
MP Augment
vs.
Auto Life
Auto Life – 5
And now, the Semi-Finals!
Chemist
Auto Life
Ribbon
Ability Up
That’s what’s left, but you can find the updated results in the first post of the thread. First semi-final battle:
Chemist
vs.
Ability Up
Chemist – <font color="red">0</font>
Ability Up – 4
And the second semi-final battle…
Auto Life
vs.
Ribbon
These are both such great abilities that this could easily be a final battle. But only one can make it to the final battle, so take your pick!
I vote Auto Life again.
Auto-Life
Zak, Chemist doubles the effects of potions and ethers in battle.
Auto Life – 3
Ribbon – 2
And it’s Auto Life that moves on to the final! And here it is…
Auto Life
vs.
Ability / AP Up
Auto Life – 3
Ability Up – 2
And our winner, by just one vote…
<font color="red">Auto Life</font>
That’s the end of the Support Abilities edition, but I have an exciting new edition for you guys… <font color="red">Character Pairings</font>! That’s right, you’ll vote on your favorite character pairs, from husband and wife to brothers and sisters and more. I’d like to do 64 to start, so here are some to start out…
Cecil Harvey and Rosa Joanna Farrell – Final Fantasy IV – Married
Galuf and Krile Baldesion – Final Fantasy V – Grandfather and Granddaughter
Lenna Charlotte Tycoon and Faris Scherwiz – Final Fantasy V – Sisters
Cid and Mid Previa – Final Fantasy V – Grandfather and Grandson
Strago Magus and Relm Arrowny – Final Fantasy VI – Grandfather and Granddaughter
Celes Chere and Locke Cole – Final Fantasy VI – Lovers
Edgar Roni and Sabin Rene Figaro – Final Fantasy VI – Brothers
Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockhart – Final Fantasy VII – Childhood Friends
Cloud Strife and Aeris/th Gainsborough – Final Fantasy VII – Romantic
Barrett Wallace and Marlene – Final Fantasy VII – Father and Adoptive Daughter
Nanaki and Bugenhagen – Final Fantasy VII – Grandfather and Adoptive Grandson
Reno and Rude – Final Fantasy VII – Partners
Elena and Tseng – Final Fantasy VII – Lovers
Godo and Yuffie Kisaragi – Final Fantasy VII – Father and Daughter
Cid Highwind and Shera – Final Fantasy VII – Married
Irvine Kinneas and Selphie Tilmitt – Final Fantasy VIII – Childhood Friends / Romantic
Squall Leonhart and Ellone Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – "Brother and Sister"
Squall Leonhart and Laguna Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Son and Father
Squall Leonhart and Rinoa Heartilly – Final Fantasy VIII – Lovers
Laguna and Raine Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Married
Kiros Seagill and Ward Zabac – Final Fantasy VIII – War Buddies
Fujin and Raijin – Final Fantasy VIII – Friends/Partners
Zone and Watt – Final Fantasy VIII – Fellow Resistance Members
Marcus and Blank – Final Fantasy IX – "Brothers"
Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Lovers
Queen Brahne and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Mother and Adoptive Daughter
Regent Cid Fabool IX and Lady Hilda – Final Fantasy IX – Married
Quina Quen and Quale – Final Fantasy IX – Student and Teacher
Captain Adelbert Steiner and Beatrix – Final Fantasy IX – Lovers
Freya Crescent and Fratley – Final Fantasy IX – Lovers
Yuna and Tidus – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Summoner and Guardian
Yuna and Rikku – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Cousins
Wakka and Lulu – Final Fantasy X-2 – Husband and Wife
Dona and Barthello – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Summoner and Guardian
Isaaru and Maroda – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Summoner and Guardian
Brother and Buddy – Final Fantasy X-2 – Best Friends
Lucil and Elma – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Comrades
Vaan and Penelo – Final Fantasy XII – Childhood Friends
Jote & Mjrn – Final Fantasy XII – Sisters
Balthier and Fran – Final Fantasy XII – Partners
Larsa Ferrinas and Vayne Solidor – Final Fantasy XII – Brothers
Snow Villiers and Serah – Final Fantasy XIII – Engaged
Sazh and Dajh Katzroy – Final Fantasy XIII – Father and Son
Bartholomew and Hope Estheim – Final Fantasy XIII – Father and Son
Oerba Yun Fang and Oerba Dia Vanille – Final Fantasy XIII – Partners
Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Now, if anyone has any favorites that I missed out on, then let’s see some nominations!
Some more… by the way I don’t think Cid and Shera are married.
Auron and Jecht – X
Auron and Braska – X
Zorn and Thorn – IX
Nooj and Baralai – X-2
Rinoa and Seifer – VIII (Ex-lovers)
Vincent and Lucrecia – VII
Zell and Library Girl with a Pigtail – VIII
Cloud and Sephiroth – VII (Do they have to be friends/on good terms or would rivals work? Anyway they used to be friends)
Cid and Edea – VIII
Seifer and Edea – VIII
Biran and Yenke – X
Biggs and Wedge (AVALANCHE) – VII
Biggs and Wedge (Galbadia) – VIII
Biggs and Wedge – X (these are the two guards standing at the entrance to the Blitzball stadium for those who don’t remember… haha no big deal if you don’t include them, but just thought I’d throw them out there since I did all the other ones. But they do play Blitzball and are amazing!).
Gibbs and Deweg – XII
Vaan and Reks – XII
Basch and Reks – XII
I might think of more later…
EDIT: Of course, the Biggses and Wedges! Hah, added them.
Scarlet and Heidegger – VII
Kuja and Queen Brahne – IX
Kuja and Garland – IX
Squall and Seifer – VIII
Sephiroth and Aeris – VII
Laguna and Julia – VIII
Vivi and Quina (they get married… come on!) – IX
also, i cant think of any other pairs.
EDIT: just got a couple…
Firion & Maria – II – Childhood Friends
Gus & Leon – II – Childhood Friends
Just wondering, has Rinoa = Ultimecia been confirmed?
i see. i mustve missed it. i played viii, but because of freezing problems on disc 3 in the past, i havent been able to finish it yet. have the game now, but because ive been busy with other things, i havent been able to play it yet.
Firion and Maria – Final Fantasy II – Childhood Friends
Gus and Leon – Final Fantasy II – Childhood Friends
Cecil Harvey and Rosa Joanna Farrell – Final Fantasy IV – Married
Galuf and Krile Baldesion – Final Fantasy V – Grandfather and Granddaughter
Lenna Charlotte Tycoon and Faris Scherwiz – Final Fantasy V – Sisters
Cid and Mid Previa – Final Fantasy V – Grandfather and Grandson
Strago Magus and Relm Arrowny – Final Fantasy VI – Grandfather and Granddaughter
Celes Chere and Locke Cole – Final Fantasy VI – Lovers
Edgar Roni and Sabin Rene Figaro – Final Fantasy VI – Brothers
Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockhart – Final Fantasy VII – Childhood Friends
Cloud Strife and Aeris/th Gainsborough – Final Fantasy VII – Romantic
Cloud Strife and Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII – War Buddies
Aeris/th Gainsborough and Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII – Antagonists
Barrett Wallace and Marlene – Final Fantasy VII – Father and Adoptive Daughter
Nanaki and Bugenhagen – Final Fantasy VII – Grandfather and Adoptive Grandson
Reno and Rude – Final Fantasy VII – Partners
Elena and Tseng – Final Fantasy VII – Lovers
Godo and Yuffie Kisaragi – Final Fantasy VII – Father and Daughter
Cid and Shera Highwind – Final Fantasy VII – Married
Scarlet and Heidegger – Final Fantasy VII – Coworkers
Irvine Kinneas and Selphie Tilmitt – Final Fantasy VIII – Childhood Friends / Romantic
Squall Leonhart and Ellone Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – "Brother and Sister"
Squall Leonhart and Laguna Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Son and Father
Squall Leonhart and Rinoa Heartilly – Final Fantasy VIII – Lovers
Squall Leonhart and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Rivals
Zell Dincht and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Rivals
Rinoa Heartilly and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Formerly Dating
Laguna and Raine Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Married
Laguna Loire and Julia Heartilly – Final Fantasy VIII – Romantic
Kiros Seagill and Ward Zabac – Final Fantasy VIII – War Buddies
Fujin and Raijin – Final Fantasy VIII – Friends/Partners
Zone and Watt – Final Fantasy VIII – Fellow Resistance Members
Cid and Edea Kramer – Final Fantasy VIII – Married
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII – Comrades
Marcus and Blank – Final Fantasy IX – "Brothers"
Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Married
Queen Brahne and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Mother and Adoptive Daughter
Regent Cid Fabool IX and Lady Hilda – Final Fantasy IX – Married
Quina Quen and Quale – Final Fantasy IX – Student and Teacher
Quina Quen and Vivi Ornitier -Final Fantasy IX – Married
Captain Adelbert Steiner and Beatrix – Final Fantasy IX – Lovers
Freya Crescent and Fratley – Final Fantasy IX – Lovers
Kuja and Queen Brahne – Final Fantasy IX – Antagonists
Garland and Kuja – Final Fantasy IX – Creator and Creation
Zorn and Thorn – Final Fantasy IX – "Twins"
Auron and Jecht – Final Fantasy X – Fellow Guardians
Biran and Yenke – Final Fantasy X – Friends
Yuna and Tidus – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Summoner and Guardian
Yuna and Rikku – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Cousins
Wakka and Lulu – Final Fantasy X-2 – Husband and Wife
Dona and Barthello – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Summoner and Guardian
Isaaru and Maroda – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Summoner and Guardian
Brother and Buddy – Final Fantasy X-2 – Best Friends
Lucil and Elma – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Comrades
Vaan and Penelo – Final Fantasy XII – Childhood Friends
Vaan and Reks – Final Fantasy XII – Brothers
Basch fon Ronsenburg and Reks – Final Fantasy XII – Captain and Soldier
Jote & Mjrn – Final Fantasy XII – Sisters
Balthier and Fran – Final Fantasy XII – Partners
Larsa Ferrinas and Vayne Solidor – Final Fantasy XII – Brothers
Snow Villiers and Serah – Final Fantasy XIII – Engaged
Sazh and Dajh Katzroy – Final Fantasy XIII – Father and Son
Bartholomew and Hope Estheim – Final Fantasy XIII – Father and Son
Oerba Yun Fang and Oerba Dia Vanille – Final Fantasy XIII – Partners
As always, the list above is for reference and you can find the updated results in the first post of the thread. First battle of this edition…
Cid and Shera Highwind – Final Fantasy VII – Married
"Wife? Don’t make me laugh! Just thinkin’ ’bout marryin’ her gives me the chills." – Cid Highwind
(Cid and Shera Highwind live together in Final Fantasy VII. After Cid was unable to travel to the moon due to Shera’s seeming overcautiousness, she pretty much became all but a slave to Cid. She was then left alone when Cid traveled around the world with Cloud and the others. But when the group returned to Rocket Town to launch the Shinra #26, she tagged along and ended up saving Cid’s life. According to Final Fantasy Wiki, Dirge of Cerberus confirmed that these two characters got married.)
vs.
Marcus and Blank – Final Fantasy IX – Brothers
"There’s only one man I call ‘Bro.’ That’s Blank." – Marcus
(Marcus and Blank are members of the Tantalus gang and the best of friends. When Blank gets petrified in the process of helping everyone else escape the Evil Forest, Marcus begins a desperate search for Supersoft to free his friend.)
Cid and Shera Highwind
Just cuz
Marcus and Blank – 5
Our obvious winners of that one – Marcus and Blank. Next battle…
Brother and Buddy – Final Fantasy X-2 – Best Friends
Buddy: Still analyzing.
Brother: Duu cmuf! (Too slow!)
Buddy: Crid ib! (Shut up!)
Yuna: Buddy and Brother are old friends. Buddy says he was aboard Cid’s airship with us two years ago. When I told him I didn’t remember, he seemed disappointed.
(Brother and Buddy were first seen in Final Fantasy X, but didn’t really gain much of a role until Final Fantasy X-2. Brother was the pilot of the Fahrenheit in Final Fantasy X and seemed very nervous, asking that he be allowed to have full concentration and that you not talk to him. Buddy you had barely any contact with at all. In Final Fantasy X-2, Brother became the so-called "leader" of the Gullwings sphere hunting group with Buddy as his right-hand man. The end of the game found Brother and Buddy considering the possibility of recruiting new Gullwings, given Paine and Shinra’s plans to leave, and the likelihood of Yuna doing so as well.)
vs.
Oerba Yun Fang and Oerba Dia Vanille – Final Fantasy XIII – Partners
"Pulse and Cocoon can rot for all I care. If I don’t figure out our Focus soon… Vanille’s gonna be a Cie’th. I’ll tear down the sky if it’ll save her." – Fang
(Fang & Vanille both come from the world of Gran Pulse and they were turned to crystal once Fang turned to Ragnarok, but failed in her bid to destroy Cocoon, due to the meddling of a goddess. Fang awoke with no memory of her deadly Focus. Vanille pretended to do the same, but she actually remembered everything. Despite certain issues, they care deeply for each other, are the best of friends, and it’s heavily hinted that they may be, well, lesbians. At the end of [i]Final Fantasy XIII, both turn to Crystal together to save the people of Cocoon.)
Fang & Vanille – 0
Next up…
Laguna and Raine Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Married
Laguna: Raine’s story? Some other time, maybe. No…I can’t. It’s too much for me to remember.
(Raine first met Laguna when she tended to him after he stumbled into Winhill. Despite Laguna’s many faults, she grew to love him. But Laguna was restless and he ended up becoming the president of Esthar. At some point, however, Laguna and Raine got married and conceived a child, Squall Leonhart. Raine died in childbirth.)
vs.
Dona and Barthello – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Summoner and Guardian
Barthello: Can…I shake your hand? Auron–no, Sir Auron. You’re the reason I became a guardian!
Auron: (Chuckles, offers hand.)
Barthello: Thank you, sir! This means so much to me!
Wakka: Calling the personal guardian to Lord Braska riffraff?
Lulu: And you call yourself a summoner?
Tidus: Yeesh.
Dona: Barthello, enough! Get back here!
…
…
Barthello: I swear, I’ll never wash this hand again!
Dona: Please! Touch me with that hand and I’ll remove it!
(Barthello is Dona’s loyal guardian. "I have need of only one guardian," proudly proclaims Dona. But the two get separated when the Al Bhed kidnap Dona and whisk her to the Summoner’s Sanctum. They are eventually reunited and Dona asks if she should quit her pilgrimage. Depending on Tidus’s answer, she will or won’t, but if she doesn’t, she arrives at Zanarkand only to find that she’s too late – the Fayth of the Final Summoning has been destroyed. In Final Fantasy X-2, she joins the Youth League and Barthello joins New Yevon, meaning he ends up in the Temple of Yevon-Kilika, away from Dona. Depending on the player’s actions in Chapter 4, the two may reunite, though Dona tells Barthello that he’ll be apologizing to her for the rest of his life.)
i know im rather late to vote, but i just had some personal issues and i havent been on since monday. they’ve been worked out.
Laguna and Raine – 4
Dona and Barthello – 0
Next up…
Cloud Strife and Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII – War Buddies
<font color="orange">Cloud: ……I used to want to be like Sephiroth, so I joined SOLDIER. After working with Sephiroth on several missions, we became friends.
Barret: You call that a friend?
Cloud: Yeah, well……. He’s older than me, and he hardly ever talked about himself.
Tifa: …………
Cloud: So I guess you’d call him a war buddy….. We trusted each other. Until one day……
Aeris/th: …one day?
Cloud: After the war it was SOLDIER’s duty to put down any resistance against the Shinra. ………..that was 5 years ago. I was 16……..</font>
(Cloud and Sephiroth worked together on a mission in Nibelheim. Cloud was not a First Class SOLDIER as he claimed, but merely a member of Shinra’s grunt troops. But when Sephiroth launched an attack on his hometown, he couldn’t just stand by. Cloud and Sephiroth later become bitter adversaries. In the Kingdom Hearts games, Sephiroth is depicted as the Darkness in Cloud’s heart.)
vs.
Captain Adelbert Steiner and Beatrix – Final Fantasy IX – Lovers
http://agent0042.fileburst.com/myssword.gif
<font color="orange">Steiner: Where are you going?
Beatrix: Please don’t ask. My mind is already set.
Steiner: Wait! Listen to me! < Thump-Thump…Thump-Thump… > I, uh… I-I never wish to lose you again!!!
Beatrix: Steiner…
Steiner: Let us protect the queen together!</font>
(Steiner and Beatrix are both top leaders in the Alexandrian army. But whereas Beatrix is powerful and respected, Steiner is regarded as a bumbling fool, or he was, until he traveled around the world with Zidane and changed. As the game progresses, these two powerful military figures discover an affection for each other that carries through to the end of the game. Though I don’t know for sure, presumably they lived happily ever after.)
LOL at how it happens.
Steiner & Beatrix – 3
Somebody who hasn’t voted, break the tie if you could, please. Given the holidays, I’m not in any hurry to end this battle, though…
Cloud & Sephiroth win on the tie-breaker.
Next battle…
Galuf and Krile Baldesion – Final Fantasy V – Grandfather and Granddaughter
Galuf: Krile.
Krile: What. Grandpa!?
Galuf: Borrowing the power of the Master Tree that has protected the Crystals for 1000 years, I give you my strength.
Krile: Grandpa! Where are you?
Galuf: You aren’t alone. Remember this, Krile.
(Krile gained all of Galuf’s status and abilities!)
Krile: Grandpa. I feel warm. I feel, Grandpa.
Galuf: I’ll still, be with you, forever.
(Galuf is the king of Val Castle and Krile, also know as Cara, is his granddaughter. Galuf begins the game with almost no memory of his past and serves as comic relief for a good portion of the game. But events cause him to remember that he was on an important mission and that he’s a king in an entirely different world. He is also one of the original Warriors of Dawn. You first encounter Krile in that world and she has some special abilities, such as being able to speak with chocobos and moogles. When Galuf goes berserk against Ex-Death in a Tellah-like sequence, he has the last laugh by transferring his power to his granddaughter, who then joins your party.)
vs.
Zell Dincht and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Rivals
Seifer: Oh, you guys shouldn’t have…I was gonna come visit you at my old home.
Squall: Shut up.
Seifer: Did you guys come to fight Matron? After all she’s done for us? Hey Chicken-wuss. Lot’s happened between us, eh?
Zell: Yeah! I’m dyin’ to get even!
(Zell & Seifer rubbed each other the wrong way, right from the beginning in the orphanage. Years later, in Garden, Zell may have forgotten those times, but they still can’t stand each other. Seifer declares Zell a chicken-wuss on his first SeeD training mission and things just get worse from there.)
Zell and Seifer
Galuf and Krile – 0
Zell and Seifer – 3
No love for the grandfather and granddaughter from FFV. I would have voted for them, but ah well.
Okay, next up…
Squall Leonhart and Laguna Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Son and Father
<font color="orange">Ward: "……"
Kiros: "(Ward says…Good thing you don’t look like your father.) … You look very much like your mother."</font>
(Though never mentioned explicitly in the game, Squall and Laguna are son and father. Squall was born to Raine, but she died due to the complications from the childbirth, and unfortunately, Laguna wasn’t there because of the situation with Ellone. Laguna ended up becoming the president of Esthar, while Squall ended up in Matron’s orphanage with Ellone. Though for most of his life up until he becomes a member of SeeD, Squall doesn’t know his father, he ends up having a strong impact on his life. Via Ellone, Squall experiences flashes of Laguna’s past, shaping and influencing that past in a way. Destiny eventually brings the two together when Laguna calls everyone to meet with him Esthar to discuss a plan to defeat Ultimecia.)
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Zorn and Thorn – Final Fantasy IX – "Twins"
<font color="orange">Kuja: "So…an eruption of anger against one’s surroundings induces a complete Trance! It’s not the will to live, nor is it the desire to protect another!"
Zidane: "Man, you’re really goin’ off! Hello!?"
Kuja: "That means…I simply need a powerful soul, even if that soul is not my own! No, wait… And it can be found there! Hahahaha!!"
Zidane: "Kuja! What are you plotting?"
Kuja: "I am done with you!"
Vivi: "W-Wait a minute!"
Zidane: "Vivi! Look out!"
Kuja: "Don’t worry, I hear these twins put on quite a good show. Of course, they’re really not twins at all…"</font>
(Zorn and Thorn work as henchmen of sorts for Queen Brahne. They’re malicious, schemy, plotting and so-forth. You fight them in the basement of Alexandria Castle and they can use powerful Twin magic, but it’s easily disabled. After Garnet takes over as queen, they find themselves out of work, so they end up following Kuja, who reveals that they’re not really twins at all and uses his magic to combine them into the monster Meltigemini.)
Just to be on the negative.
F*** FFIX for that too =D
Zorn and Thorn – 2
Squall & Laguna squeak by. Next up…
Edgar Roni and Sabin Rene Figaro – Final Fantasy VI – Brothers
Sabin: I didn’t turn my back on the kingdom, big bro. I knew you’d be a better king. I trained hard, knowing I might have to help you one day. Now I know why I have these stupid muscles!
(Edgar and Sabin are royal brothers. But Sabin seemingly forsook the kingdom and ran away. It turns out he was actually in training to protect the kingdom, so that Edgar could be the one to rule it. The two reunite during the adventure of Final Fantasy VI and together make a great team. They are also known as "Edgar & Mash.")
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Auron and Jecht – Final Fantasy X – Fellow Guardians
Jecht: What are you shooting me for?
Auron: So you don’t do anything stupid again. I can’t believe you attacked that shoopuf. Lord Braska had to pay the handler for damages from his own travel money.
Jecht: I said I was sorry. It’s never gonna happen again! I promise!
Auron: Ah, a promise? Which you’ll forget come tomorrow!
Braska: Auron, please. He did apologize. He knows he was wrong.
Jecht: That’s it. Only thing I drink from now on is shoopuf milk!
Braska: You’re sure?
Jecht: We’re on a journey to fight Sin and save Spira, right? If I keep screwin’ up…and…making a fool of myself…my wife and kid are never gonna forgive me.
Auron: That’s on the record.
(Auron and Jecht were fellow guardians of Lord Braska, who later became High Summoner by summoning the Final Aeon and defeating Sin. At first, Auron is not impressed by Jecht. He thinks that he’s nothing but a loudmouth and a drunkard. Still, Auron isn’t necessarily what anyone would expect either. He’s a monk who fell into disrespect after refusing the hand of the priest’s daughter. Together, Auron and Jecht journey together to protect Braska. At first, Auron’s feelings about Jecht seem to be validated, but as they continue on, the two learn about each other and Auron realizes that Jecht is serious about making the most of his second chance. In the end, Jecht becomes the Fayth for Braska’s Final Summoning, while Auron is killed after challenging Yunalesca, but he records as an Unsent to guard others on a new journey, including Jecht’s son…)
Auron and Jecht – 1
Easy win for Edgar & Sabin. Next up…
Nanaki and Bugenhagen – Final Fantasy VII – Grandfather and Adoptive Grandson
Red XIII: Cloud, this is my grandfather, Bugen. He is incredible. He knows everything.
Bugenhagen: Ho Ho Hoooo. I hear that you looked after Nanaki a bit. Nanaki is still a child you see.
Red XIII: Please stop, grandfather. I’m 48.
(Bugenhagen is the adoptive grandfather of Red XIII/Nanaki. Red XIII looks up to and respects Bugenhagen, an elderly man who is filled with wisdom about The Planet and who has an interesting past as well.)
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Sazh and Dajh Katzroy – Final Fantasy XIII – Father and Son
Dajh: Found you! I caught you Daddy!
Sazh: Dajh, how? …
(Sazh and Dajh are father and son. Sazh is a trained civilian airship pilot who lost his wife several years ago. Since then, he’s been rather depressed, but his son has been a bright light in his life. Dajh loves chocobos, so when he expressed a desire to see a fal’Cie, Sazh took him to the power plant at Euride Gorge for a trip and to surprise him with a chocobo chick. But when Sazh turned his back for a moment, Dajh wandered off and ended up becoming branded as a Cocoon l’Cie. He gains the ability to sense power of Pulse origin, leading Jihl Nabaat and her crew to take an interest in him. Sazh boards the Purge train in the hope of finding a way to help Dajh escape his fate, but ends up becoming branded as a Pulse l’Cie. When Dajh later finds him and Vanille, he turns to crystal, having completed his Focus. But during the ending of the game, he and his father are reunited.)
Sazh is pretty funny in FF13, but I didn’t like him in battle. Seemed like he was only there for comic relief.
Nanaki and Bugenhagen – 2
Sazh and Dajh – 0
And so another FFXIII team is eliminated. It’s still early on, but I wonder if all the teams from that game are destined to strike out.
Well, next up…
Fujin and Raijin – Final Fantasy VIII – Friends/Partners
Zell: If you guys stand behind him that much… Tell frickin’ Seifer to stop this nonsense!
Fujin: AFFIRMATIVE!
Raijin:We ain’t no sell-outs! We’re behind Seifer all the way, ya know!?
Squall: Ok…Understood. So you want nothing to do with Garden now? …From now on, we’re not gonna hold back. (…I guess that’s how it goes. That’s what comrades are all about…)
Rinoa: You’re just gonna let them go? Squall?
Raijin: Don’t wanna…talk anymore, ya know……Kinda painful…ya know…
Fujin: WIMP! RUN!
Rinoa: …I feel sad.
Squall: Friend or foe…It all comes down to circumstance. That’s how we were raised. It’s…nothing special. (Nothing special…Is that true? Then…What is this I’m feeling?) Let’s go.
(Fujin and Raijin are members of a "posse" with Seifer Almasy and friends to both him and each other. Though they’re very different, they tend to stick together, even though they often don’t get along on many things. Fujin has a habit of speaking in simple, declarative commands or expressions ["RAGE!"] while Raijin has the annoying habit of ending his sentences with "ya’ know?" Both are fiercely loyal to Seifer, but on the Lunatic Pandora at the end of Disc 3, they come to realize that they don’t know what he’s doing anymore and they can’t keep supporting his actions.)
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Larsa Ferrinas and Vayne Solidor – Final Fantasy XII – Brothers
Larsa: The first duty of the Consul is to maintain order in Dalmasca. My brother???my brother is not one given to failure. Perhaps things aren???t going as well as they might be??? But give him a little time, and he will put things to rights. Be not troubled. My brother is a remarkable man.
Penelo: He frightens me.
Larsa: Why?
Penelo: I???m sorry. He is your brother. It???s just???you don???t understand how much we lost to the war. My friends, my parents.
Larsa: So, you fear the Empire? Listen to me. The men of my family, we are taught to place the needs of others before those of our own. I will see that you are kept from harm. It is my duty to House Solidor.
Penelo: But how???how can I trust you?
Larsa: Because I give you my word. My brother would do no less.
(Larsa Ferinnas and Vayne Solidor are brothers from the Empire’s House Solidor. As the game starts out, Larsa is loyal to his brother, as he believes him to be a generally good man and the men of House Solidor are taught to put others before themselves. Larsa has learned this lesson, but he comes to realize that his brother is not in all ways the great man that he thinks he is. In the end, Larsa joins your party in fighting against Vayne. Vayne, for his part, is the murderer of both his own and Larsa’s one-and-the-same father.)
I guess I’ll wrap this up…
Fujin and Raijin – 1
Larsa and Vayne – <font color="red">0</font>
Strago Magus and Relm Arrowny – Final Fantasy VI – Grandfather and Granddaughter
Relm: Grandpa! Stop goofing around!!
Strago: Sorry, dear…
Relm: If I hear even a peep out of you, I’m gonna draw your portrait!!
Strago: No! Anything but that!
Relm: … …but you know… Just once I’d really like to do a portrait of you… on canvas, of course!
Strago: Relm! How can you be thinking about pictures at a time like this?!
(Strago and Relm are grandfather and granddaughter. Strago is an old man and a blue mage who seeks revenge against a monster known as "Hidon." He ends up being entranced by a group of Kefka fanatics, but in an optional scene, Relm can find him and break him out of his trance, and he’ll rejoin the party. Relm is a spunky young girl with a big mouth on her and a paintbrush that can strike fear into enemies.)
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Yuna and Tidus – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Summoner and Guardian
Tidus: I got a theory. I think the fayth gathered up my thoughts and put ’em
together to bring me back. Maybe. Something like that. Or maybe…I’m still a dream.
Yuna: Wait! So you’ll disappear?
Tidus: Cherish me, Yuna. And I’ll cherish you. All right? We gotta stay together. That’s what we have to do.
Yuna: Is that what the fayth told you?
Tidus: Nah. But I like it.
Tidus: (after Yuna pushes him into the water) That’s not cherishing!
Yuna: You didn’t disappear.
(Yuna ends up becoming the High Summoner who defeated Sin and lived. Tidus arrives in Spira, displaced from a thousand years through time and a dream of the Fayth. He becomes Yuna’s guardian and openly questions the various Yevon precepts. His energy and spirit have a huge influence on Yuna, who eventually decides "You say it’s your story, but it’s my story, too, you know? It would be so easy…to let my fate just carry me away…following this same path my whole life through. But I know…I can’t. What I do, I do…with no regrets." In Final Fantasy X-2, Yuna begins a quest to find Tidus after seeing a sphere that appears to feature him. In the end, depending on the player’s actions, she can either be reunited with him, or she may decide "It’s better this way. I know he’s already with me, right here.")
Oh, big news. I have found a place to move and that’s going to be keeping me busy for the next few days to a couple weeks. Therefore, all of my FFShrine activities save Final Fantasy Idol will be suspended. So there’s plenty of time to vote here. Cast your votes!
Because FFX was the first FF I played.
Sorry totally forgot about this thread.
Strago and Relm – 4
Yuna and Tidus – 3
Kind of a surprise there – I didn’t think either Strago or Relm were that well liked. Or is it a representation of dislike for Yuna and Tidus? Well, anyway, it’s Strago and Relm to Round 2.
And we go on to this battle…
Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockhart – Final Fantasy VII – Childhood Friends
Tifa: "Hey, Cloud… Would you tell me ‘It’s all right’?"
Cloud: (chooses to "Say It Cool") "It’s all right, Tifa."
Tifa: "Now I feel like things are really going to be all right. Thanks, Cloud."
(Cloud and Tifa are childhood friends… or are they? The truth is, Cloud always looked up to Tifa and her little group of friends, but he wasn’t a part of that group. Over time, he began to think "If I could just get stronger…… Then even Tifa would have to notice me……" Through a series of events, the two really do become friends, and more…)
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Vaan and Penelo – Final Fantasy XII – Childhood Friends
Penelo: I thought that this money was the people of Dalmasca???s property. The Imperials stole it from us, so it???s only fair that we take it back. It???s our duty as Dalmascans. (takes out a coin) Well, wasn???t that what you said?
Vaan: Yeah, but I never said anything about taking it back from me!
Penelo: This is for that bread you took the other day. Just because I help Migelo out every now and then???it doesn???t mean that you get to eat for free, too, you know.
Vaan: I know that, you think I like living like this? One of these days I???ll fly an airship of my own. I???ll be a sky pirate, free to go where I will.
Penelo: Well, be careful. You???ll never fly anything if you???re rotting in a dungeon!
Vaan: Hmph.
(Vaan and Penelo are childhood friends, described as being like brother and sister, though some material related to FFXII also describes them as a romantic item. They are both orphans who grew up to together in Rabanastre’s Lowtown. Vaan, with help from Fran and Balthier, travels to the Skycity of Bhujerba to try to rescue Penelo after she is kidnapped by Bangaa. Vaan is often the subject of some gentle teasing from Penelo. Their relationship grows closer in the sequel Revenant Wings.)
Damn right they grow closer together in RW. Dat smoochin’ and sexin’. It’s cute.
Hey Agent long time and all that.
Cloud and Tifa – 2
Vaan and Penelo – 1
Next up…
Cecil Harvey and Rosa Joanna Farrell – Final Fantasy IV – Married
Cecil: Step aside, Rosa.
Rosa: I’m not going anywhere. Why not? Without me along, who will heal you when you’re hurt?
Cecil: Rosa…
Kain: You can’t win this one, Cecil.
Edge: No use arguing with a woman.
Cecil: Then I’ll argue no more.
(Cecil and Rosa meet through the events of Final Fantasy IV, but Cecil has a protective nature. Though he doesn’t want to see Rosa hurt, he can’t stop her from following him into danger. At the end of the game, the two marry and take the throne of Baron.)
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Quina Quen and Vivi Ornitier -Final Fantasy IX – Married
David Heavenguard: May the blessin’s o’ heaven be upon this man an’ woman!
Quina: … I… So happy…
Vivi: … M-Me, too…
(This is sort of a more jokey pairing, but after Zidane and Garnet get "married" at Conde Petie, Zidane will suggest that Quina and Vivi should get married too. It’s left up to the player, but if they agree to it, then the ATE Nuptial Joy is activated and Quina and Vivi are married. Nothing is ever mentioned about it again from that point and contact between the two characters is minimal. The website Gamesradar named this pairing #2 on their article of the five worst Final Fantasy couples.)
HHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGG
that and I love these two.
Vivi & Quina… I just like their theme songs for the most part.
Vivi deserves something much better than that filler.
EDIT: Plus Cecil & Rosa are the best Couple in all FF franchise IMO
Vivi and Quina – 2
Best turnout in a while, seems this battle inspired some passion in the voters.
Here comes our next battle…
Biran Ronso & Yenke Ronso – Final Fantasy X – Friends
Biran: Look! One of Kimahri’s friends. Looks just like him.
Tidus: What?
Biran: Both follow summoners on all fours! Hornless goatlings!
Yenke: Hornless! Hornless!
Kimahri: You come to insult Kimahri?
Biran: Wrong. We come to warn little Kimahri.
Yenke: Summoners disappear. Never return.
Biran: Next will be Kimahri’s summoner.
Yenke: Poor Kimahri! Lost his horn, next lose his summoner!
Biran: Pitiful Kimahri! Howl alone! Howl alone!
Tidus: Do those two got something against you?
(Biran & Yenke Ronso are companions who the party encounters in Final Fantasy X. Many years ago, Kimahri lost a fight with Biran and when Kimahri wouldn’t admit defeat, Biran broke his horn. The two heckle Kimahri and the party by extension, but at Mt. Gagazet, Kimahri faces them head on. This time, he wins. The two then pay tribute to Yuna and promise to block those who would attempt to follow her and cause her trouble. Unfortunately, they and many other Ronso are easily dispatched by the unsent Seymour Guado.)
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Jote & Mjrn – Final Fantasy XII – Sisters
Jote: Lente’s Tear is a permission. Pass through the Wood and leave. To other places go.
Mjrn: That cannot be all! I saw it when I left the village! Ivalice is changing! How can the Viera stand and do nothing at all?
Jote: Ivalice is for the Humes. The Wood alone is for us.
Mjrn: But that is wrong! How can we just hide here in the trees when all the world outside is on the move! I, too, wish to live freely—to leave this Wood!
Fran: Do not do this. You must remain away from the Humes. Stay with the Wood. Live together with the Wood. This is your way.
(Jote & Mjrn are sisters. Mjrn is drawn away from the Viera wood, stirred by soldiers passing through the wood. In her uneasiness, she goes to investigate, but she is captured and a manufacted nethicite stone is set beside her, so that the Mist can be drawn into her. It sends her into a rage. The party finds her and rescues her, returning her to the wood. There, Jote, the leader of the wood, tells her that she must never leave again. Mjrn is not happy, but accepts the decision at Fran’s urging. Both characters later feature in some of the Eruyt Village sidequests.)
Jote & Mjrn – 2
The two Ronso move on to the second round.
Next up…
Aeris/th Gainsborough and Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII – Antagonists
Cloud: Thank you… Aeris/th. Aeris/th’s voice has already reached the Planet. Just look at the glow of the White Materia. But…… how about Holy? How come Holy isn’t moving? Why?
Bugenhagen: Something’s getting in its way.
Cloud: ……Him…… He’s the only one that could do it. …Sephiroth. Where are you?
(Aeris/th and Sephiroth are antagonists and Sephiroth ends up being Aeris/th’s murderer. But her sacrifice is not in vain, for her prayer for Holy reached the Planet. The rest is left up to Cloud and company, who travel into the Northern Cave to defeat Sephiroth, allowing things to unfold from there.)
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Regent Cid Fabool IX and Lady Hilda – Final Fantasy IX – Married
Regent Cid: Oh! My darling < ribbit > Hilda! I finally found you < ribbit >!
Hilda: I do not remember ever marrying a toad.
Regent Cid: I-It’s me < ribbit >! Cid!
Hilda: Of course, that mustache… It really is you!
Regent Cid: Hilda, come back to the castle < ribbit > and return me to my former self < ribbit >!"
Hilda: Dreadfully sorry, my sugar cup, but I surrendered your favorite airship to a man named Kuja.
Regent Cid: Forget about it < ribbit >! As long as you’re alright < ribbit >!
Hilda: Oh, my sweet froggy-woggy!
(Cid and Hilda are husband and wife. But after Cid committed one too many infidelities, Hilda grew angry, turned him into an oglop, then stole his airship which she was later forced to surrender to Kuja. Eventually, the two are reunited and Hilda restores Cid to his original form, but not before extracting a promise from him to never go skit-chasing again. At the end of the game, the two settle down and adopt Eiko as their granddaughter.)
Cid and Hilda – 1
Not much love for the bug and his wife.
Okay, next up…
Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Married
Marcus: So, the sun is our enemy, too. The eastern sky grows bright. Will we not spread our wings, as yonder birds in joyous flight?
Cinna: Hark, Marcus! They cannot wait any longer! The ship departs!
Marcus: Could she have betrayed me? Nay, ne’er would my love speak false. I must have faith! She shall appear if I only believe! As the sun lends me no ear, I pray instead to the twin moons! I beseech thee, wondrous moonlight, grant me my only wish!
Zidane: Bring my beloved Dagger to me!
Garnet/Dagger: How did you survive…?
Zidane: I didn’t have a choice. I had to live. I wanted to come home to you. So… I sang your song. Our song.
(Zidane and Garnet first come to know each other when Zidane and the Tantalus crew stage a kidnapping of her. She asks Zidane to be kidnapped, as she wishes to travel to Lindblum in order to speak with her Uncle Cid. As they journey, Zidane schools her the ways of appearing as a commoner, much to the disdain of Captain Adelbert Steiner. As the game continues, they grow closer and closer. Though I don’t believe it’s ever been officially confirmed, it can be reasonably assumed that they married following the events of the game and Lived Happily Ever After.)
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Lucil and Elma – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Comrades
Elma: Commander!
Lucil: Thank you, Lady Yuna. It was a good match.
Yaibal: You really are amazing, Lady Yuna.
Elma: You were incredible, too, Commander!
(Lucil and Elma are comrades. In Final Fantasy X, the two were chocobo knights, with Lucil as Captain and Elma as a loyal knight. [And Clasko as a third wheel.] Following that, both joined the Youth League and after Nooj’s disappearance, Lucil became the group’s de facto leader, with Elma as a second-in-command. Lucil seems to enjoy her work, but expresses that she’s only the acting leader and that she’s holding down the fort until Nooj returns. Elma, meanwhile, expresses a desire to re-start the Chocobo Knights. As a sidenote, it’s been suggested by more than one fan of the series that the two may be lesbian, or at least fantasized about.)
Lucil and Elma – 1
Little support for Lucil and Elma. Zidane and Garnet easily proceed to the second round.
And we move on to this battle…
Firion and Maria – Final Fantasy II – Childhood Friends
Leon: We’ve been through too much. We can’t return to the past.
Maria: Wait, Leon! Why? Firion, please don’t let him go!
Firion: What Leon said is true, Maria. I can’t stop him from going. We shall meet again, Leon!
(Firion and Maria are childhood friends. They lived a comfortable life in the kingdom of Fynn along with their friend Gus and Maria’s brother Leon, but everything changed when The Empire attacked. Leon is separated from the group and Firion and Maria, along with the somewhat childlike Gus, began a quest to save the world. I believe Firion is also a key character in Dissidia.)
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Zone and Watts – Final Fantasy VIII – Fellow Resistance Members
Zone: Finally… We’ve waited so long for this encounter with Vinzer.
Watts: Was that perfect, sir!? Amazing, sir! You’re the best, sir! Your SeeD rank went up by 1!
Rinoa: Well then…
Watts: Leave the intelligence to me, sir!
Zone: OwOwOuccchhh.
(Zone and Watts are members of the Timber Owls resistance group. Their fathers were the founding members of the group. Watts "gathers intelligence," while Zone seems to spend a lot of time moaning about his stomach, though he serves his purposes as well. After the two sacrifice their train tickets to the party, they manage to escape and end up aboard the White SeeD Ship, where you can talk with them late in the game and gain valuable information, and also parlay Zone’s lust for naughty magazines to your benefit.)
and firion is a character in dissidia.
Firion and Maria – 4
Zone and Watts – 1
Little support for the two comrades from the Forest Owls. It’s the two characters from the early classic that win in this battle.
Next up…
Squall Leonhart and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Rivals
Seifer: Even if you don’t talk, others will. The instructor, the little messenger girl, or the Chicken-wuss…He wouldn’t last 3 seconds!
Squall: (Th…They’re…) …They’re…all here…?
Seifer: Oh, you bet. But since I like you so much, I thought you should go first. I was hoping you’d be there, Squall. So…how’d I look in my moment of triumph? My childhood dream, fulfilled. I’ve become the sorceress’ knight.
Squall: (…Sorceress’ knight… …His…romantic dream…? But…Seifer… Now, you’re just…) …A torturer.
Seifer: What did you say!? Passed out cold, eh? This is the scene where you swear your undying hatred for me! The tale of the evil mercenary vs. the sorceress’ knight… The fun’s just started, Squall. Don’t disappoint me now!
(Squall and Seifer are antagonists. They’ve been at each other’s throats all their lives, ever since they grew up together in Edea’s orphanage, but Squall doesn’t remember a lot of it, because of the GF. Once they both came to Garden, their rivalry only intensified, coming to a head when Seifer kidnaps Rinoa on the Lunatic Pandora.)
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Kuja and Queen Brahne – Final Fantasy IX – Antagonists
Kuja: I’m not done telling how to make soulless toys out of the dregs of souls!
Zidane: Dregs of souls? You mean Mist!?
Kuja: First, you don’t want to listen, now you start asking questions? Oh, brother… But you’re not ready yet!
Dagger: Why, you– don’t you feel anything!? Taking the lives of so many…
Kuja: Spare me the lecture. Lives come and go all the time. What’s the big deal? Speaking of warmongers, why… what about that mother of yours, Princess? She said she won’t feel alive until she has everything! It breaks my heart to see such greed! The war was my fault? No, no! Your mother wanted it! All I did was give her a little push!
Dagger: Liar! My mother was sweet and kind. You changed her!
Kuja: Mwahaha… So the curtain rises! Perfect, my canary. Let me show you the truth about your mother! First Act: The End of Ugly Desire. It’s showtime!
(Like Squall and Seifer, Kuja and Brahne are antagonists, though they begin the game as allies, at least on the surface. The truth is that Kuja has been manipulating Brahne all along. As Disc 2 comes to a close, he reveals himself and crushes Brahne by summoning Bahamut. Brahne is left dying on the shore and Kuja remains alive to carry out his evil schemes against Brahne’s adoptive daughter, the newly crowned Queen Garnet.)
Kuja & Branhe
Squall and Seifer – 3
Kuja and Brahne – 2
So Squall and Seifer squeak by on that one and move on to the second round. We move on to this battle…
Celes Chere and Locke Cole – Final Fantasy VI – Lovers
Come on! This floor’s about to break apart!
Celes: LOCKE!!
Locke: I will not let go… …I promise! You almost ate it trying to pick up that silly trinket!
(Celes and Locke meet early on in Final Fantasy VI and Locke offers Celes his protection. As the game continues, they grow closer. If you find Phoenix, then in an optional scene, Locke’s former flame, Rachel, lets go and tells Locke go on living his life, giving her endorsement for him to be happy with Celes. If you do not find Locke in the optional sidequest, then Celes grabs for the bandana, saying that it’s her good luck charm and pleads for Locke to come back to her someday.)
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Kiros Seagill and Ward Zabac – Final Fantasy VIII – War Buddies
Ward: So, Laguna…Julia should be making her appearance soon.
You goin’ for it tonight?
Kiros: You, go for it!
(Kiros and Ward are war buddies – somewhat high-level soldiers with the Galbadian army. They are close companions of Laguna, who they realize has something singularly unique about him, even if his behavior is sometimes, well… odd. After an incident at the Lunatic Pandora, Kiros and Ward are separated for a long time and Ward loses his voice. The two eventually reunite and, in a way, Kiros becomes Ward’s voice because he always understands what he is trying to say, even if he can’t say it out loud. The two also reunite with Laguna and become top-level aides to the President of Esthar.)
And where did you find that picture? I don’t remember an FMV of Laguna, Kiros, and Ward…
Edit: Ah, my mistake.
Kiros and Ward – 2
Romance wins the day on this one. We’re starting to get kind of close to the end of Round 1. Next up…
Lenna Charlotte Tycoon and Faris Scherwiz – Final Fantasy V – Sisters
Lenna: Father!
Faris: … F… ather.
Lenna: Faris!
Faris: …
Lenna: So you WERE my sister.
Faris: I’m sorry. It was too hard for me to say.
Lenna: Sister!
Faris: Lenna!
(Lenna Charlotte Tycoon, a.k.a. Reina & Faris Scherwiz, a.k.a. Sarisa, a.k.a. Salsa are sisters. They were separated at any early age and Sarisa was taken in by a group of pirates, changed her name and started passing for a guy. Fate reunites the two sisters, who are brought together to save the world. In the game’s ending, Lenna and Sarisa are asked to take the throne in place of their father, one of the Warriors of Dawn, but Sarisa longs for adventure. If Sarisa is KOed in the final battle, then Lenna rules, but misses her sister. If Lenna is KOed, then Sarisa reluctantly takes the throne. If both are KOed, then the staff of the palace lament that there is nobody to assume the throne.)
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Snow Villiers and Serah – Final Fantasy XIII – Engaged
Before I asked you to marry me, I wished that you’d say yes.
(Snow and Serah are engaged to be married, something which Serah’s sister, Claire "Lightning" Ferron, does not approve of. But when Serah is branded as Pulse l’Cie, everything seems to fall into doubt. Snow assures her that he will stick by her no matter what and then proves it when he travels into the fal’Cie to try to rescue her. She turns to crystal and Snow believes that her mission was to save Cocoon. When the entire group is branded as Pulse l’Cie, he sticks with this belief, eventually allowing the group to carve a new fate. In the game’s ending, everyone is decrystallized and Snow & Serah reunite. Presumably they get married and live happily ever after, though I expect Final Fantasy XIII-2 will tell us more about that.)
Lenna and Faris – 1
Snow and Serah – 2
Next up…
Cloud Strife and Aeris/th Gainsborough – Final Fantasy VII – Romantic
Cait Sith: This isn’t good. I can’t say it. Poor Tifa.
Aeris/th: No! Tell me! I promise I won’t get mad!
Cait Sith: Is that so? Then I’ll tell you. Looks good. You are perfect for each other! Aeris/th’s star and Cloud’s star! They show a great future! Cloud, I’ll be your matchmaker, preacher… I’ll do whatever you want me to You just call me when it all happens!
(This may possibly be the most well-known "romantic" Final Fantasy couple of all time. But in the game itself, the two don’t really have all that much time for romance, other than the Gold Saucer date, if Aeris is the one to choose Cloud. The two flirt, but in the end, Aeris/th gives her life for the Planet. In Advent Children, at the end, "Cloud senses Aerith’s presence and also mistakes her as his mother. She and Zack joke over people calling her that, and tell Cloud his place isn’t with them yet.")
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Freya Crescent and Fratley – Final Fantasy IX – Lovers
Freya: Ahahaha… What irony. To find the man about whom I have dreamt endlessly… …only to discover that he cannot even remember who I am! Come, Zidane! The enemy’s hand has not been stilled! We must regroup!
Zidane: Freya…
(Freya and "Iron Tail" Fratley were lovers, but Fratley felt the need to grow stronger and began a journey around the world. Unfortunately, that journey caused him to lose his memories, all but a faint feeling of having once been called a "dragon knight." The two are reunited, only for Freya to be crushed by the knowledge of what has happened to Fratley and for them to soon be separated again. At the end of the game, they are finally together. Fratley still does not remember the past, but Freya expresses a desire to cherish what they now have, regardless.)
Cloud and Aeris/th – 4
Freya and Fratley – 3
So Cloud and Aeris/th just squeak by on that one. That’s the end of the Cloud pairings – all of them have made it to the second round.
Next up…
Squall Leonhart and Ellone Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – "Brother and Sister"
Squall: I was always waiting for ‘Sis’ to come back. I’m…all alone. But I’m doing my best… I’ll be ok without you, Sis. I’ll be able to take care of myself. (…I didn’t turn out ok at all.) …Sis Elle… Elle…Ellone. So, Ellone was ‘Sis’. She was a bit older than us, and we all used to call her ‘Sis’. Quistis, Zell, Selphie, Irvine, Seifer, Ellone and myself… Yeah… I’m not sure what the meaning behind all this is, but we were definitely together.
(Squall and Ellone are siblings through adoption and when Squall was a little boy, he referred to her as "Sis" Elle. The two lived together in the orphanage, but Ellone had to go away, to the White SeeD ship. Squall never quite got over losing his "big sister," but the two reconnected through Ellone’s mysterious power to send someone’s consciousness back into the past. In the end, the two meet again and learn that the present is what’s important.)
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Wakka and Lulu – Final Fantasy X-2 – Husband and Wife
Wakka: I always try to cram myself into some kinda mold, you know? A blitzer, or a guardian, or a follower of Yevon… And now, a father. I always get so wound up about what I should be. But you know, in the end I’m just me. Anyway, I can’t keep coming up with new Wakkas all the time, eh? So it looks like I’ll just have to start doing things my way. That’s the way I’ll write our story.
Yuna: Hang in there, Dad.
Wakka: Sin was nothin’ compared to diaper changing, ya? … Hey. Sorry it took me so long to decide on a name, Lu.
Lulu: It’s all right. I knew it would be worth the wait. I had faith.
Wakka: You? Had faith in me?
Lulu: Wakka, we’re in this together. Whether you see it or not, I really do rely on you.
Wakka: Guess I’d better not drop the ball, ya?
Lulu: You won’t.
(In Final Fantasy X, Wakka and Lulu were fellow guardians of the summoner Yuna. At first, Lulu doesn’t seem to think much of Wakka, finding him impulsive, prejudiced and a wishful thinker who refuses to face reality. However, she begins to see things in him, such as when he gives his all at the blitzball game and when he begins to realize that Yevon isn’t what it says it is. Their feelings for each other continued to grow and in Final Fantasy X-2, they are married and Lulu is expecting a child. In Chapter 5, she gives birth to the child, who, if you complete the requirements, is named Vidina, Al Bhed for "Future.")
Squall and Ellone – 1
Wakka and Lulu – 2
The married couple from FFX/FFX-2 goes on to the second round. Next battle…
Godo and Yuffie Kisaragi – Final Fantasy VII – Father and Daughter
Godo: Yuffie…… I am the same now as I was before when I wanted the war. But, after I lost the war, I began to think… Is strength, only for defeating the enemy? …or just something to show-off to others…? Might begets might. That’s the same way as the Shinra…
Yuffie: ……
Godo: I knew you were looking for Materia for the good of Wutai. But, the reason I hide my strength now, is also for the good of Wutai… And now, I realize both are necessary… Strength without determination means nothing. And determination without strength is equally useless…!
(Godo and Yuffie are father and daughter. But after Wutai lost to the Shinra, Yuffie became disgusted with her father and set off on her own. The two have harsh words for each other, but in the end, Yuffie shows her father her newfound strength. Godo is impressed and shares his personal feelings with her, telling her secretly to come back… with the materia!)
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Balthier and Fran – Final Fantasy XII – Partners
Balthier: Not many Viera where you come from, thief?
Vaan: It???s Vaan. Sorry???
Balthier: Well, Fran is special???in that she???d deign to partner with a hume.
Fran: Oh? Like a Sky Pirate that chooses to steal through the sewers?
Vaan: Pirates? You???re Sky Pirates? So you have an airship?
Balthier: It???s Balthier.
(Balthier and Fran are partners in sky piracy. At some unspecified point in Balthier’s adventures, the two of them met up and joined forces. Balthier, original name Ffamran mied Bunansa, is the son of Dr. Cidolfus Bunansa, but has renounced his father, whom he believes to be mad. He considers himself the "leading man" of the adventure, but places great value in the wisdom and knowledge of his Viera partner.)
Balthier and Fran – 4
Easy win for the Sky Pirates from FFXII, it seems the ninja and father from FFVII didn’t stand a chance.
We’re nearing the end of the first round of this edition, but we still have a few battles left, so let’s keep it moving with this one…
Reno and Rude – Final Fantasy VII – Partners
Reno: Hey, Rude. Who do you like? What are you getting so embarrassed about? Come on? Who do you like?
Rude: ………..Tifa.
Reno: Hmmmm……. That’s a tough one. But, poor Elena. She…. you……
Rude: No, she likes Tseng.
Reno: I never knew that! But Tseng likes that Ancient…
Cloud: What are they talking about?
Elena: It’s so stupid! They always talk about who they like or don’t like. But Tseng is different. Ah! Oh no!
(Reno and Rude are partners in Final Fantasy VII, comrades in the Turks. Elena joins later as a sort of third ranger, but Reno and Rude have a personal bond. They later return and are seen working together in Advent Children, and even more so in Advent Children Complete.)
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Laguna Loire and Julia Heartilly – Final Fantasy VIII – Romantic
Laguna: You…You saw me?
Julia: You were always smiling while listening, right? You have beautiful eyes. Though they look a bit scared now. Don’t worry. I’m not going to pluck’em out and eat’em. I just want to talk, gazing into those eyes. Would you like a drink? Wine perhaps?
(Laguna Loire always admired the piano playing of the woman at the bar of the hotel in Galbadia that he and his comrades Kiros and Ward so often frequented. Then, one night, he finally worked up the courage to approach her. What he never knew was that the woman he had his eyes on had her eyes on him as well. Though she was a great piano player, she always dreamed of writing lyrics and his courage and way with words inspired her to write a song. But then, Laguna was sent away to fight and Julia ended up marrying another man, but her life was cut short when she died in a tragic car accident.)
Their relationship was forced, but it was still interesting.
Laguna & Julia – 1
Easy win for the Turks. Next up:
Scarlet and Heidegger – Final Fantasy VII – Coworkers
Heidegger: G’yaaa, Haaa, Haaa!!! Here they come! G’yaaa, Haaa, Haaa!!! So they really showed up! You sure did treat us like dogs up to now!!
Scarlet: You killed off a lot of my precious soldiers!
Heidegger: G’yaaa, Haaa, Haaa!!! But let’s see how you do against anti-Weapon artillery!
Scarlet: You guys are worthless, but my proud creation is a sure thing! I’ll show you the destructive power of the Proud Clod!
(Scarlet and Heidegger are coworkers at Shinra Inc. Cait Sith dubbed them "G’yaa haa haa and K’yaa haa haa" due to their distinctive laughs. Both don’t seem to possess even an ounce of a conscience and both are great at plotting and scheming. Scarlet is particularly nasty to Tifa. Both meet their downfall when they are trapped in their own Proud Cloud, which Cloud and crew bust up.)
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Bartholomew and Hope Estheim – Final Fantasy XIII – Father and Son
Bart: You’re my son! This is your home.
(Bart and Hope are father and son. Hope bears a deep resentment towards his father, who is clumsy at showing his love for his son. But at the urging of his fellow L’Cie, he reunites with his father, who shows great sympathy and understanding to their situation. He also tells Hope that this is is home, and he should never feel unwelcome there.)
I always considered fun this couple.
I think they made me laugh at times.
Bartholomew and Hope – 1
Cid and Edea Kramer – Final Fantasy VIII – Married
NORG: Bujurururu! THIS-IS-MY-GARDEN!
Squall: NO! It’s not just yours.
NORG: Bujurururu! THEN-WHAT-IS-IT!? IS-IT-CID’S-AND-EDEA’S!? THAT-PATHETIC-MARRIED-COUPLE’S!?
Squall: What…? (The headmaster and Edea are married!? …I don’t get it.)
NORG: Bushurururu…NOW-I-UNDERSTAND. CID-AND-EDEA-ARE-TRYING-TO-TAKE-GARDEN-AWAY-FROM-ME. YOU’RE-ONE-OF-CID’S FOLLOWERS-AREN’T YOU!? PREPARE TO DIE!
(Cid and Edea are married. They first got married a long time ago and Edea was the Matron in the orphanage where Squall and co. grew up. Together, Cid and Edea founded Garden, but then, Edea became possessed by Ultimecia, leaving Cid as the headmaster of a Garden that was training SeeDs with skills that might be used to fight his wife.)
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Vaan and Reks – Final Fantasy XII – Brothers
Vaan: I brought you some of those flowers you like: Galbana Lilies. Remember? You always said how they smelled nice, and how pretty they were. Remember? The King— Did you? Were you really a part of it? Even if—Even if you were— Captain Basch must have tricked you into it!
(Vaan and Reks were brothers, but we don’t get to see their actual relationship within the game itself. Instead, we learn about after-the-fact, in a manner of speaking. Reks was the older brother, but he joined Rabanastre’s forces to fight against the Archadian invasion, only to lose his life at the end of the man who was impersonating Captain Basch. Vaan was left an orphan, alone, but he still has fond memories of brother. For a long time, he blames Captain Basch for his brother’s death, not knowing what really happened.)
Cid and Edea – 2
Vaan and Reks – <font color="red">0</font>
Elena and Tseng – Final Fantasy VII – Lovers
Elena: Cloud… huff… wheeze. I won’t let you go any further!
Cloud: What’s down there?
Elena: It’s a SE-CR-ET. It really doesn’t matter! But you really got guts doin’ my boss in like that!
Cloud: You mean Boss… Tseng? That wasn’t us. Sephiroth did it.
Elena: No! Don’t think you can fool me, liar!
Cloud: I’m not lying… it was Sephiroth.
Elena: Don’t try to act innocent. I’ll never forget it!!
(Elena and Tseng are colleagues in the Turks, with Tseng as Elena’s boss. Elena is speculated to have romantic feelings for Tseng, though Tseng has never been indicated specifically to have romantic feelings for her, so the idea of them being "lovers" may be more of a fanon thing. Due to a notorious mistranslation (replicated above), players of the U.S. version believed Elena to be devastated by the supposed death of Tseng, but the PC version script corrected this to read "It really doesn’t matter! You really got guts messin’ my boss up like that!" Elena and Tseng return in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, working together and their role is expanded in Advent Children Complete.)
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Irvine Kinneas and Selphie Tilmitt – Final Fantasy VIII – Childhood Friends / Romantic
Irvine: Well then… We’ll need to choose a party for the trip to Deling City. (indicates a party in which Rinoa and Selphie are in a group with him) How’s this?
Squall: (Yeah, whatever.) Have a good time…
Selphie: Are you being sarcastic!? You are, aren’t you! Well, fine then! We WILL have a good time!
Rinoa: We understand very well. Come on, Mr. Kinneas, let’s go!
Squall: (…H-Hey.)
Irvine: Call me Irvine. I’m a pretty lucky guy. Hand in hand with two beautiful girls!
Selphie: Irvy Kinnepooo! I’ll make you very happy!
Squall: (Did I say something terrible? Women…I don’t understand them.)
(Selphie and Irvine lived together in Matron’s Orphanage along with Squall, Zell, Quistis, Seifer and Sis "Elle". Eventually, the two were separated. Selphie ended up in Trabia Garden, but later transferred to Balamb Garden, with Irvine ending up at Galbadia Garden and becoming a trained sharpshooter. Eventually, the entire party reunited and Selphie and Irvine found each other again – "Sefie" and "Irvy." Though Selphie seems a bit unsure about the whole thing, there is a definite spark between the two and she is seen wearing his cowboy hat and acting possessive of him in the ending video.)
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Elena and Tseng – 3
Irvine and Selphie – 2
Elena and Tseng scrape by by one vote. Next up…
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII – Comrades
Squall: What do you think you’re doing!?
Biggs: Huhhhh? Likewise, MISTER! What do you think you’re doing!? H-HEY! What happened to all the soldiers down below!? WEDGE! Take care of these twerps!!! W…Wedge? I…ah…Well…ah…I seem to be done here, so I’ll just be on my…I-I’m leaving…Move! Move! Move!
Seifer: Sorry to crash the party.
Biggs: Ah…AHH…AHHHHH! Are you CRAZY!!!
Seifer: "Just shut UP!
Biggs: (as battle begins) Prepare for the worst, you brats!
Wedge: (joining the battle) Major Biggs…Have you finished the repairs, sir? What is the enemy doing here!?
Biggs: WEDGE! Where were you!? No pay for you this month!
Wedge: …Should’ve stayed home!
(Major Biggs and Lieutenant Wedge were comrades in the Galbadian army that served as a sort of recurring joke in Final Fantasy VIII. The party first encounters them at the top of the Dollet Communication Tower where they put up a pitiful fight before being swept out of the battle by the Elvoret. Biggs, however, retains enough strength to send the party a little surprise. Biggs & Wedge next show up in the D-District Prison, where Biggs speculates on whether it’s right to fight unarmed prisoners, only for Wedge to point out that your party is, in fact, fully armed. They decide to rumble anyway, Biggs griping that he got demoted to lieutenant. He and Wedge get their butts kicked again and Biggs wonders what’s below lieutenant. The final encounter is in the Lunatic Pandora, where Biggs decides to quit the army and a very reluctant Wedge follows.)
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Isaaru and Maroda – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Summoner and Guardian
Isaaru: Hey, you.
Tidus: Me?
Isaaru: You are Yuna’s guardian, no? Maroda’s heard a curious rumor. I thought you should know.
Maroda: I heard it from those Crusaders. Seems that summoners have been going out on pilgrimage and just…disappearing.
Isaaru: It could just be the fiends got them…but not so many so quickly.
Maroda: Sorry I don’t know more, but…watch your back. Ain’t much future for a guardian without a summoner, eh?
(Isaaru is a summoner and Maroda is one of his brothers and his guardian. As Isaaru’s brother, Maroda can think of no higher calling than to guard his brother, so he is naturally shaken when his brother is kidnapped by the Al Bhed and spirited away to the Summoner’s Sanctuary. He later ends up on the Fahrenheit along with Maroda and a very shaken young Pacce. His pilgrimage ends when his brother’s does – after Isaaru trs to stop Yuna from continuing on her own pilgrimage by fighting in an aeon battle at the end of the Via Purifico. In Final Fantasy X-2, Isaaru and Maroda find themselves apart. Maroda has joined the Youth League, while Isaaru has taken a job bringing excitement to the people who visit the ruin of Zanarkand, and watching over the ruins of the Zanarkand Temple in general. However, depending on the player’s actions, Isaaru will return to Bevelle in Chapter 5, and Maroda complains that he plays the hero and leaves others to the dirty work.)
Biggs and Wedge – 5
Isaaru and Maroda – <font color="red">0</font>
The summoner and guardian from FFX fail to pick up even a single vote, while the comic duo from FFVIII sail on to the second round.
Next battle:
Garland and Kuja – Final Fantasy IX – Creator and Creation
Man: You have gone too far, Kuja. I granted you the freedom to do as you wish in Gaia for one purpose alone. Now that you have lost sight of your mission, I will no longer tolerate your actions. You have not the slightest idea whom you are defying. I will show you soon enough. You too, Zidane…
Kuja: !!!? What happened to the Invincible!? Enslave Alexander, as you enslaved Bahamut! !!! Could it be…Garland!? Impossible! Why would he come to Gaia!? If it is indeed Garland, he must know my plan! But why has he assumed control of the Invincible…?!!!? No! He can’t be…
(Garland and Kuja are creator and creation. Garland was hoping to control Kuja for his own ends, but Kuja ended up having too much ambition. Garland tried to rein him back in, but Kuja had grown too powerful. But Garland had more power than Kuja imagined, and even though his physical body was gone, his presence remained, haunting Kuja and providing advice to Zidane.)
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Yuna and Rikku – Final Fantasy X / X-2 – Cousins
Wakka: Yuna, she knew what she was doing when she chose to become a summoner. To face Sin, ya? Yuna knew!
Rikku: But Wakka, that’s just totally wrong! Summoners shouldn’t have to sacrifice themselves…just so the rest of Spira can be happy, right?
(Yuna and Rikku are cousins, but end up becoming such good friends that they are like sisters to each other. As an Al Bhed, Rikku objects to Yevon’s teachings about summoners having to sacrifice themselves. She joins the party as Yuna’s guardian, hoping to find a way to save "Yunie." Though she tries to project a cheerful air, like the others, she is sad on the inside due to the nature of the journey. Of course, in the end, the party chooses a different way, and Yuna lives. In Final Fantasy X-2, Yuna again joins up with Rikku, who is part of the sphere-hunting group, the Gullwings. Both Yuna and Rikku have a much more cheerful feeling about them. Yuna is grateful to Rikku for teaching her to relax and encourages Rikku when she expresses that she feels like she’s often getting left behind, telling Rikku that next time it will be "her story.")
P.S.: I’m thinking of ejecting Gus & Leon from the competition and substituting some other character pairing. As far as I can tell, other than the fact that they were childhood friends, they really have very little direct interaction in the game Final Fantasy II and so there’s really nothing to work with. Would anyone object to removing them? And, if not, anyone have any suggestions on a pairing that they’d like to see added?
Eject the bastards if you like. dont bother me none
Kuja doesn’t know how to put on the Ritz.
Yuna and Rikku – 1
Barrett Wallace and Marlene – Final Fantasy VII – Father and Adoptive Daughter
Dyne: I told you… I… I want to destroy everything… Everything… This crazy world… Even me…
Barret: An’ what about Marlene? What’s gonna happen to her!
Dyne: Think about it… Barret… How old was Marlene back then…? Even if I did go to her now… she wouldn’t even know me… And what’s more… Barret…. These hands are a little too stained to carry Marlene anymore…
… … …
Barret : …Dyne. Me an’ you were the same… My hands ain’t any cleaner…. I shouldn’t be able to carry…. Marlene either…. Uuuuurrrrgghh!!!
(Barret and Marlene are father and adoptive daughter. Because of what happened to Dyne, Barret has been raising her, with Tifa’s help. He tries his best, though it isn’t easy at the leader of the rebel group AVALANCHE. In the conversation above, he admits that he too feels unworthy to hold her because of the things he’s done. Later on in the game, Marlene is kidnapped and used as a pawn by Reeve, at least until he ends up serving openly on the party’s side.)
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Squall Leonhart and Rinoa Heartilly – Final Fantasy VIII – Lovers
Squall: (Rinoa…You feel so cold. Are you going to be like this forever?) …… Isn’t there anything I can do!? You were so full of life. Now you don’t even make a sound… I want to hear you voice. (This is like talking to a wall.) Rinoa… Call my name. (……)
(Squall and Rinoa are lovers. They first meet and dance at the SeeD graduation ball, Squall later explaining that SeeDs are trained in such skills. They meet up again in Timber, Squall and co. ordered to assist the Timber Owls. Squall at first sees Rinoa as something of a silly girl who is out of her depth. But as the game continues, something happens. As Squall begins to open up to his emotions, he finds himself falling for her, almost without realizing it. In the end, he vows to become her knight and protect her, even if she becomes the world’s enemy.)
P.S.: Gus and Leon have been ejected from the competition. I will find another pairing to take their place, most likely to be part of the next battle.
Squall doesn’t let his own malfunctions get in the way… of his heart.
I’d go for either pairing I suppose.
Squall and Rinoa – 2
Only two battles left in the current round. Next up…
Celes Chere and Cid Del Norte Marquez – Final Fantasy VI – "Granddaughter and Grandfather"
Cid: Celes… the project that kept me going over the past year is down below. Go have a look at it!
Celes: Granddad.
Cid: Celes… you must leave this place. You have to find your friends!
Celes: I know… But I’ll bring ’em all back to meet you!
Cid: That Locke fellow, too, no doubt…
(So after ejecting Gus and Leon, I had to come up with another pairing, and then I thought of this one. Celes and Cid ends up together following Kefka’s actions that lead to the World of Ruin. Cid watched over Celes for a whole year when she was in a coma. Celes is touched by his actions and decides to call him "granddad." Cid gets sick and you end up with two options – you can save him, or if you fail to save him, he eventually dies.)
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Queen Brahne and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Mother and Adoptive Daughter
Vivi: I don’t know why Bahamut attacked the one who summoned him. But we found Queen Brahne on the beach, next to her escape pod. She could hardly move. And I thought she’d come to a stop any second. I hate Kuja a lot. But I hate Brahne a lot, too… …so much that I wanted this to happen to her. I should be happy, but… Once I saw Dagger start to cry, I didn’t know how I should feel. I kind of wanted to cry, too…
Brahne: I…I…can hear…my daughter’s voice.
Dagger: Yes, Mother! I’m here! Right here…
Brahne: I…I am empty now… Free… Free…of that…terrible… greed…
Dagger: Mother…
Brahne: I haven’t…felt this way…since I saw that play…with you…and your father. I led…Alexandria…down…the path… of ruin… The people…will be…happier…with you…on the throne…
(Queen Brahne and Garnet are mother and adoptive daughter. After Queen Brahne lost her original daughter, she and her husband rescued Garnet from a ship at sea and raised her as their own. But something happened to Queen Brahne following her husband’s death and she became possessed of a terrible greed. Though Garnet never stopped loving her, she knew that something was very wrong with her mom and her actions. Though the two ended up aligned against each other, they made their peace in the end.)
Er, better check the choices again.
Celes and Cid – 2
Garnet and Brahne – 3
Now, the penultimate battle of the first round (sorry, made a mistake in the last post, there are actually still two to go, including this one):
Rinoa Heartilly and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Formerly Dating
Rinoa: I…really liked him. He was always full of confidence, smart… Just by talking to him, I felt like I could take on the world.
Selphie: Your boyfriend?
Rinoa: I don’t really know. I…I think I was in love. I wonder how he felt…?
Selphie: Do you still like him?
Rinoa: If I didn’t, I wouldn’t be talking about it. It was last summer… I was 16. Lots of fond memories…
Squall: (I liked him…wasn’t really a bad guy…He was one of us… Seifer…You’ve become just a memory.)
(Rinoa and Seifer were boyfriend and girlfriend, sort of. As indicated above, Rinoa was head over heels for him for a while, but she was never entirely sure if he felt the same way about her. Eventually, their fling came to an end. Later, the two ended up as enemies, and Seifer kidnapped Rinoa and "junctioned" her to the Sorceress Adel.)
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Quina Quen and Quale – Final Fantasy IX – Student and Teacher
Quina: What!? This is food!?
Grandma Pickle: You’ve never seen a pickle before?
Quina: No, first time. I still need eat many different food and get much learning. My master tell me so.
(Quina and Quale are master and student. Quina has learned much about the ways of the Qu from Quale. However, Quale felt that Quina still had much to learn. To that end, he asked him to go out into the world with Zidane and the others in order to try food from other places and learn many other things besides. If you catch enough frogs, you can eventually battle Quale, who will acknowledge the strength of his student upon defeat. Also, in an optional scene involving Vivi’s "grandfather," Quan, Quale realizes that he too still has things to learn.)
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Cid and Mid Previa – Final Fantasy V – Grandfather and Grandson
Lenna: Did Mid come here!?
Faris: Cid! Pull yourself together!
Cid: I’m hopeless now. Don’t bother yourself with me.
Mid: Grandpa!
Cid: Mid!
Cid: (as Mid hits him with a flurry of slaps) Ow! Hey, hey, hey, Mid, stop that!
Mid: Grandpa, you idiot! You idiot!! Nothing can make you give up!
Cid: Mid.
Mid: You’re the one who always said not to be afraid of failures. You’re the one who always said that if you fail, then you should just try it over again.
Cid: Mid. Mid, should just try it over. Again… Mid! You’re right!
(Cid and Mid are grandfather and grandson. When Cid has a breakdown following the destruction of the Fire Crystal, it is his grandson Mid who helps him to see that he must not give up. The two continue to provide service to the party throughout the game, in particular, working together to allow the airship to also have the capability of a submarine.)
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Basch fon Ronsenburg and Reks – Final Fantasy XII – Captain and Soldier
Balthier: Nice moves there, Captain.
Vaan: You mean “traitor.”
Balthier: So they say. But I didn’t see him kill anyone.
Vaan: My brother did.
Basch: … Reks.
Basch: He said he had a brother two years younger. I see. He meant you. Your brother. What became—
Vaan: He’s dead.
Basch: I’m sorry.
Vaan: It was you who killed him!
Basch: I give you my word: that was not the way of it.
(Basch was a captain of Rabanastre’s forces and Reks was a soldier under him. Unfortunately, things went disastrously wrong, as on Rek’s first mission, he witnessed the apparent traitorous actions of his captain and then was killed by him. As we find out, it was actually Basch’s twin, Noah fon Rosenburg, a.k.a. "Gabranth.")
i always had an inkling it wasnt really Basch that killed Reks. i never got very far in the game.
Even their names go together.
Cid and Mid – 1
Basch and Reks – 2
And that puts an end to the first round. Let’s see what we have left for the second…
Firion and Maria – Final Fantasy II – Childhood Friends
Cecil Harvey and Rosa Joanna Farrell – Final Fantasy IV – Married
Strago Magus and Relm Arrowny – Final Fantasy VI – Grandfather and Granddaughter
Celes Chere and Locke Cole – Final Fantasy VI – Lovers
Edgar Roni and Sabin Rene Figaro – Final Fantasy VI – Brothers
Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockhart – Final Fantasy VII – Childhood Friends
Cloud Strife and Aeris/th Gainsborough – Final Fantasy VII – Romantic
Cloud Strife and Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII – War Buddies
Aeris/th Gainsborough and Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII – Antagonists
Barrett Wallace and Marlene – Final Fantasy VII – Father and Adoptive Daughter
Nanaki and Bugenhagen – Final Fantasy VII – Grandfather and Adoptive Grandson
Reno and Rude – Final Fantasy VII – Partners
Elena and Tseng – Final Fantasy VII – Lovers
Scarlet and Heidegger – Final Fantasy VII – Coworkers
Squall Leonhart and Laguna Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Son and Father
Squall Leonhart and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Rivals
Zell Dincht and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Rivals
Rinoa Heartilly and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Formerly Dating
Laguna and Raine Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Married
Fujin and Raijin – Final Fantasy VIII – Friends/Partners
Cid and Edea Kramer – Final Fantasy VIII – Married
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII – Comrades
Marcus and Blank – Final Fantasy IX – "Brothers"
Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Married
Queen Brahne and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Mother and Adoptive Daughter
Garland and Kuja – Final Fantasy IX – Creator and Creation
Biran and Yenke – Final Fantasy X – Friends
Wakka and Lulu – Final Fantasy X-2 – Husband and Wife
Brother and Buddy – Final Fantasy X-2 – Best Friends
Basch fon Ronsenburg and Reks – Final Fantasy XII – Captain and Soldier
Balthier and Fran – Final Fantasy XII – Partners
Snow Villiers and Serah – Final Fantasy XIII – Engaged
The usual applies – the above list is only for reference, but you can see the updated results in the first post of the thread. First battle of the second round:
Reno and Rude – Final Fantasy VII – Partners
(Reno: And what are we up to?
Yazoo: We know, Mother is here.
Rude: Oh, yeah?
Loz: Yeah, this thing… monument thing… Shinra made it.
Reno: Oh, no, you’re just too clever
Rude: Except, you’re wrong.
Reno: And wherever she is, we just don’t know.)
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Marcus and Blank – Final Fantasy IX – "Brothers"
(Marcus: Bro, over here!
Blank: Hold up. My body still feels kinda stiff.
Marcus: We’ve gotta hurry! Zidane and Dagger are in trouble!
Blank: Who’s Dagger? Zidane’s new girl
Marcus: What? You don’t know?
Blank: Know what? What are you talking about?
Marcus: Just keep running!
Blank: Sheez…)
fo da lulz
Marcus and Blank – 3
That’s the will and spirit of the Turks!
Next up…
Laguna and Raine Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Married
(Kiros: (…What?)
Laguna: (Girl talk…Let’s come back later. Come on!)
Kiros: (Something inside me tells me to listen.)
Ellone: Raine…Aren’t yoo gonna marry Uncle Laguna?
Raine: A guy like that? He was carried in here crying like a baby, and I was the one who had to take care of him… His crude way of speaking…I don’t know if his aspirations as a journalist… Every time I try to have a serious conversation, he avoids it… I can’t stand his snoring and he talks in his sleep…
Ellone: But he’s really nice! I really, really like him! Raine, Uncle Laguna and Elle should all be together!
Raine: …But you know… I think what he really wants to do is travel all over the world. I don’t think he has it in him to live in a quiet country town like this one. Some people are like that… …Ouuu, it makes me so mad.
Ellone: …Yoo don’t like him?
Raine: …I feel the same as you, Ellone.)
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Brother and Buddy – Final Fantasy X-2 – Best Friends
(Shelinda: So, tell us about him.
Yuna: It’s a long story.
Shelinda: I’m sure it is! One can only imagine the fascinating tales that led to you becoming the leader of the Gullwings.
Brother: Hold it right there! I’m the leader. Me! Gullwings! We rock you!
Buddy: Whoa! This thing on?
Shinra: It’s taping two morons right now.)
Brother and Buddy – 2
Not much of a surprise there, I suppose. The real surprise is that Brother and Buddy even managed two votes.
Next up…
Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockhart – Final Fantasy VII – Childhood Friends
(Cloud: Tifa was in a coma for seven days. We all thought she wouldn’t make it. If only I could’ve saved her… I was so angry… Angry at myself for my weakness. Ever since then, I felt Tifa blamed me… I got out of control… I’d get into fights not even caring who it was. That was the first time I heard about Sephiroth. If I got strong like Sephiroth, then everyone might… If I could just get stronger…… Then even Tifa would have to notice me……)
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Zell Dincht and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Rivals
(Seifer: I love battles. I fear nothing. The way I look at it, as long as you make it out of battle alive, you’re one step closer to fulfilling your dream.
Squall: What!? Your dream?
Seifer: You have one too, don’t you?
Squall: …Sorry, but I’m gonna pass on that subject.
Zell: Yo! Let me in on it, too!
Seifer: Mind your own business.
Zell: Friggin’ hell… (He starts punching the air.)
Seifer: What’s the matter, Zell? Swatting flies? (walks away)
Zell: Damn you…!)
Cloud & Tifa
Cloud and Tifa – 4
Zell and Seifer – 2
And so the "childhood friends" from FFVII are preferred over the antagonistic pairing from FFVIII.
Next battle…
Celes Chere and Locke Cole – Final Fantasy VI – Lovers
(Locke: I’m with the Returners. Name’s Locke.
Celes: Returners!!! I used to be General Celes… Now I’m just a common traitor…
Locke: Let’s go!
Celes: !? You’d take me along? Thanks, but no thanks. I can barely walk… I’m grateful, but… Even if you got me out, you’d never be able to protect me. No, I think I’m better off here.
Locke: I’ll protect you! Trust me! You’ll be fine! Let’s go!)
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Biran and Yenke – Final Fantasy X – Friends
(Yenke: Why not talk, Kimahri? Not see Yenke for ten years! Say something! Kimahri forget Yenke? Forget Biran?
Biran: Leave Kimahri, Yenke. Kimahri is small Ronso. Kimahri so small can’t see Yenke and Biran’s faces.
Yenke: Kimahri forget Ronso friends? We taught you much at time of horn-molt! Biran taught Kimahri to be strong Ronso.
Biran: Maybe taught too much.)
Celes and Locke – 5
Biran and Yenke – <font color="red">0</font>
Hornless! Hornless!
Next up…
Squall Leonhart and Laguna Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Son and Father
(Squall: Why are you building a statue of him?
Elder: You find it strange, yes? I doubt you will understand. We believe that Master Laguna has a special something. That something is the power to attract people. We still don’t know what it is, so we decided to build a statue of him. We felt that we may come to understand why Master Laguna is so special by doing this.
Squall: (…That bumbling clown…? I’d better not say anything.))
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Balthier and Fran – Final Fantasy XII – Partners
(Fran: I???ve heard the voice of the Wood. She says Mjrn is not in the village. Jote. Where has she gone?
Jote: Why do you ask? The Wood tells us where she has gone. Or???can you not hear her? You cannot. Your ears are dull from hearing their harsh speech, I think. Viera who have abandoned the wood area Viera no longer. Mjrn, too, has left her embrace.
Balthier: And you forsake them in turn?
Jote: It is the will of the village. Viera must live always with the Wood. So is the Green Word, and so is our law.)
Squall and Laguna – <font color="red">0</font>
Balthier and Fran – 4
Bit surprising there, I thought Squall and Laguna were somewhat more liked than that. Or maybe Balthier and Fran are just that popular.
Okay, next up…
Edgar Roni and Sabin Rene Figaro – Final Fantasy VI – Brothers
(Sabin: I’ve been watching from afar, hoping that the world might regain some sanity… At this rate, Figaro will be reduced to a puppet state.
Edgar: Our time to strike back has arrived. The Empire’s going to pay for what it has done…
Sabin: Think a "bear" like me could help you in your fight?
Edgar: You’d…join us? Sabin…!!
Sabin: I think Duncan would rest easier if he knew his disciple played a part in bringing peace to the world.)
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Barrett Wallace and Marlene – Final Fantasy VII – Father and Adoptive Daughter
(Cait Sith: That was a surprise, the controls went crazy. This ain’t good… Weapon came out of the sea and is heading straight for Midgar.
Cloud: The new weapon should stop him, right?
Cait Sith: I don’t know if it’s ready or not…
Barret: Hey! What’s gonna happen to Marlene!?
Cait Sith: Doncha worry none, Marlene’s in a safe place. She’s with Aeris’s mama. Barret!! What was that scratching just now!? As long as Marlene is safe, who cares what else happens, right?)
Edgar and Sabin – 5
Barret and Marlene – <font color="red">0</font>
Next battle…
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII – Comrades
(Zell, Selphie, Biggs and Wedge: AAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Biggs: S-So we meet again! Now we’ll teach you the lesson we should have taught you earlier! I know it might seem cowardly to fight unarmed prisoners… …But I hope you appreciate our position. Hey, it’s a dog eat do…
Wedge: Uh, they are fully armed, sir…
Biggs: W-WHAT!? H-Ho-How…? Ahh, hell with it! Let’s go, Wedge! … … I was demoted because of you! I’m only a lieutenant now! I’ll get my revenge!)
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Wakka and Lulu – Final Fantasy X-2 – Husband and Wife
(Lulu: Welcome back.
Yuna: Hi, Lulu.
Rikku: So tell us about the baby! It’s gonna be born soon, right?
Lulu: Hm. Not yet. Wakka’s getting a little ahead of himself.)
Biggs and Wedge – 2
Wakka and Lulu – 1
Next up, we have…
Firion and Maria – Final Fantasy II – Childhood Friends
(Hilda: I see you have regained your strength.
Firion: Your Highness, please allow us to join the rebel forces!
Hilda: Nonsense. You would only waste your lives in the war. You must go home at once.
Maria: But, Your Highness, we no longer have homes. And our parents, they’re…
Hilda: ! Oh… I am very sorry for your losses. You are welcome to stay in Altair. You need only know our secret code to live here.)
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Cloud Strife and Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII – War Buddies
(Cloud: Come this spring…. I’m leaving this town for Midgar.
Tifa: ……..All boys are leaving our town.
Cloud: But I’m different from all of them. I’m not just going to find a job. I want to join SOLDIER. I’m going to be the best there is, just like Sephiroth.)
Firion and Maria – 3
Cloud and Sephiroth – 1
And so the friends from FFII, seeming underdogs, make their way to the third round. Next up…
Fujin and Raijin – Final Fantasy VIII – Friends/Partners
(Raijin: Yo, it’s Squall. Oh yeah. Fujin’s gonna treat us, ya know? Want somethin’?
Fujin: RAGE!
Raijin: ? (Fujin kicks him in the leg.) !!!!!!!!! Ahh…Ouuu…Ahh… … … Squall, psst…psst…psst… (Fujin’s kinda harsh at times so you betta watch it too, ya know?
Fujin: WHAT?
Raijin: O-Oh! I-It’s nothin’!)
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Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Married
(Zidane: (Could it be that she…likes me?)
David Heavenguard: …An’ the wisdom tae follow the path…
Zidane: (Gotta admit, I was pretty deep that night in the black mage village. Maybe that’s when she fell for me? I’m such a stud!)
David Heavenguard: May the blessin’s o’ heaven be upon this man an’ woman!
Zidane: Dagger! Now we’re man and wife! Time for the kiss… … … Playing hard to get, eh?
Shanis Gatekeeper: Happy fit! Now ye need anoonce yer joinin’ tae the twins at the other gate!
Zidane: What!? You mean there’s more?
Shanis Gatekeeper: We have tae follow tradition, lad!
Zidane: Ah, well… Time for us newlyweds to make the rounds, Dagger.
Dagger: Remember, we’re only married while we’re here.
Zidane: Bliss is so fleeting.)
Zidane and Garnet – 3
Zidane and Garnet win that one, easy.
Next up…
Strago Magus and Relm Arrowny – Final Fantasy VI – Grandfather and Granddaughter
(Relm: Grandpa. Who are these people? Friends? Can they use magic, too?
Strago: Yaa! Hush!
Relm: (spotting Interceptor) What a cute doggy!
Shadow: Get away. He bites.
Strago: Go to your room!
RELM: I will not! What a fussy old man!)
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Nanaki and Bugenhagen – Final Fantasy VII – Grandfather and Adoptive Grandson
(Bugenhagen: Cloud says they are trying to save the planet. Honestly, I don’t think it can be done. For even if they stop every reactor on the planet, it’s only going to postpone the inevitable. Even if they stop Sephiroth, everything will perish. But, Nanaki. I’ve been thinking lately. I’ve been thinking if there was anything WE could do. As a part of the planet, something to help a planet already in
misery… No matter what happens, isn’t it important to try? Am I just wishing against fate? I am too old to do anything about it… This year, I’ll be 130. Ho Ho Hoooo. That is why, Nanaki, you must go with them! For my sake.
Red XIII: Grandpa…
Bugenhagen: I wanted to show you your real father before you left… I’m so glad that you came back while I was still alive to show you.
Red XIII: Grandpa… don’t talk like that. I don’t want to think of life… without you…..)
Nanaki and Bugenhagen – 3
Strago and Relm pick up the first vote, but then get shut out on the rest.
Next battle is…
Cid and Edea Kramer – Final Fantasy VIII – Married
(Cid: Are you angry with me? Haha…I don’t blame you. All I do is talk big, but in times or trouble, I run away. I was in a no-win situation…Your defeat would be the end of you. Your victory would mean losing my wife. I just couldn’t bear…to face either circumstance. I don’t care about myself…But…please forgive Edea…)
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Garland and Kuja – Final Fantasy IX – Creator and Creation
(Garland: I have no intention of destroying Gaia. I only wish to make Gaia into Terra.
Zidane: What did you just say!?
Garland: Of course, not everything went as planned. You growing up on Gaia, for example. There is another one built as you were. He may be the one who threw a wrench into my gears.
Zidane: He!? Who the heck are you talking about!?
Garland: Someone you know quite well. Follow me… The time when the aura of Gaia will turn to the crimson glow of Terra has not yet come. I may need your help anyway.)
Cid and Edea – 3
Garland and Kuja – 3
It’s a tie! All right, let’s look to the battles from the previous round and see about a tie-breaker…
Cid and Edea – 2/2 = 100%
Garland and Kuja – 5/6 = 83%
Well, I guess I have to give it to Cid & Edea, seeing as theirs was 100%, even if it was only two votes.
Next up…
Scarlet and Heidegger – Final Fantasy VII – Coworkers
(Cait Sith: Both Gya ha ha and Kya ha ha are up to something. Wanna eavesdrop?)
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Squall Leonhart and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Rivals
(Dr. Kadowaki: Looks like your eyes are focusing. You should be fine. Say your name for me. … Why don’t you take it easy in training? Next time you might not be so lucky.
Squall: Tell that to Seifer.
Dr. Kadowaki: That Seifer…Won’t listen to anyone. Why don’t you ignore him?
Squall: I can’t just run away.
Dr. Kadowaki: You wanna be cool, huh? Well, don’t get hurt in the process.)
Squall and Seifer – 3
Scarlet and Heidegger just eke that one out.
Next up…
Aeris/th Gainsborough and Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII – Antagonists
(Aeris/th: It’s only a matter of time before Sephiroth uses Meteor. That’s why I’m going to protect it. Only a survivor of the Cetra, like me, can do it. The secret is just up here. At least it should be. …I feel it. It feels like I’m being led by something. Then, I’ll be going now. I’ll come back when it’s all over.
Cloud: Aeris/th?
Sephiroth: Hmm…….. She’s thinking of interfering? She will be a difficult one, don’t you think? We must stop that girl soon.)
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Basch fon Ronsenburg and Reks – Final Fantasy XII – Captain and Soldier
(Reks: My brother is all I have left, sir. He???s two years younger then I. Living in Rabanastre.
Basch: So young.
Basch: You???re barely old enough to be a man. You shouldn???t be forced to wield a sword.
Reks: No, sir. I want to fight. For my homeland and for my parents.)
Reks sucked.
Reks sucked.
Reks sucked.
Aeris and Sephiroth
Reks was just the unpaid extra.
Aeris and Sephiroth
PS: ‘sup bump…
Now then, where were we? Ah yes.
Aerith and Sephiroth: 7
Basch and Reks: 1
After ten long months, Aerith & Sephiroth finally take the cake. We have three more competitions before the next round. Next up:
Cecil Harvey and Rosa Joanna Farrell – Final Fantasy IV – Married
Cecil: Step aside, Rosa.
Rosa: I’m not going anywhere. Why not? Without me along, who will heal you when you’re hurt?
Cecil: Rosa…
Kain: You can’t win this one, Cecil.
Edge: No use arguing with a woman.
Cecil: Then I’ll argue no more.
(Cecil and Rosa meet through the events of Final Fantasy IV, but Cecil has a protective nature. Though he doesn’t want to see Rosa hurt, he can’t stop her from following him into danger. At the end of the game, the two marry and take the throne of Baron.)
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Rinoa Heartilly and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Formerly Dating
Rinoa: I…really liked him. He was always full of confidence, smart… Just by talking to him, I felt like I could take on the world.
Selphie: Your boyfriend?
Rinoa: I don’t really know. I…I think I was in love. I wonder how he felt…?
Selphie: Do you still like him?
Rinoa: If I didn’t, I wouldn’t be talking about it. It was last summer… I was 16. Lots of fond memories…
Squall: (I liked him…wasn’t really a bad guy…He was one of us… Seifer…You’ve become just a memory.)
(Rinoa and Seifer were boyfriend and girlfriend, sort of. As indicated above, Rinoa was head over heels for him for a while, but she was never entirely sure if he felt the same way about her. Eventually, their fling came to an end. Later, the two ended up as enemies, and Seifer kidnapped Rinoa and "junctioned" her to the Sorceress Adel.)
Cecil and Rosa: 5
Seifer and Rinoa: 0
Next up:
Elena and Tseng – Final Fantasy VII – Lovers
Elena: Cloud… huff… wheeze. I won’t let you go any further!
Cloud: What’s down there?
Elena: It’s a SE-CR-ET. It really doesn’t matter! But you really got guts doin’ my boss in like that!
Cloud: You mean Boss… Tseng? That wasn’t us. Sephiroth did it.
Elena: No! Don’t think you can fool me, liar!
Cloud: I’m not lying… it was Sephiroth.
Elena: Don’t try to act innocent. I’ll never forget it!!
(Elena and Tseng are colleagues in the Turks, with Tseng as Elena’s boss. Elena is speculated to have romantic feelings for Tseng, though Tseng has never been indicated specifically to have romantic feelings for her, so the idea of them being "lovers" may be more of a fanon thing. Due to a notorious mistranslation (replicated above), players of the U.S. version believed Elena to be devastated by the supposed death of Tseng, but the PC version script corrected this to read "It really doesn’t matter! You really got guts messin’ my boss up like that!" Elena and Tseng return in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, working together and their role is expanded in Advent Children Complete.)
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Queen Brahne and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Mother and Adoptive Daughter
Vivi: I don’t know why Bahamut attacked the one who summoned him. But we found Queen Brahne on the beach, next to her escape pod. She could hardly move. And I thought she’d come to a stop any second. I hate Kuja a lot. But I hate Brahne a lot, too… …so much that I wanted this to happen to her. I should be happy, but… Once I saw Dagger start to cry, I didn’t know how I should feel. I kind of wanted to cry, too…
Brahne: I…I…can hear…my daughter’s voice.
Dagger: Yes, Mother! I’m here! Right here…
Brahne: I…I am empty now… Free… Free…of that…terrible… greed…
Dagger: Mother…
Brahne: I haven’t…felt this way…since I saw that play…with you…and your father. I led…Alexandria…down…the path… of ruin… The people…will be…happier…with you…on the throne…
(Queen Brahne and Garnet are mother and adoptive daughter. After Queen Brahne lost her original daughter, she and her husband rescued Garnet from a ship at sea and raised her as their own. But something happened to Queen Brahne following her husband’s death and she became possessed of a terrible greed. Though Garnet never stopped loving her, she knew that something was very wrong with her mom and her actions. Though the two ended up aligned against each other, they made their peace in the end.)
Garnet & Brahne
Garnet & Brahne
Garnet & Brahne: 3
Elena & Tseng: 2
All right, last battle for this round!
Cloud Strife and Aeris/th Gainsborough – Final Fantasy VII – Romantic
Cait Sith: This isn’t good. I can’t say it. Poor Tifa.
Aeris/th: No! Tell me! I promise I won’t get mad!
Cait Sith: Is that so? Then I’ll tell you. Looks good. You are perfect for each other! Aeris/th’s star and Cloud’s star! They show a great future! Cloud, I’ll be your matchmaker, preacher… I’ll do whatever you want me to You just call me when it all happens!
(This may possibly be the most well-known "romantic" Final Fantasy couple of all time. But in the game itself, the two don’t really have all that much time for romance, other than the Gold Saucer date, if Aeris is the one to choose Cloud. The two flirt, but in the end, Aeris/th gives her life for the Planet. In Advent Children, at the end, "Cloud senses Aerith’s presence and also mistakes her as his mother. She and Zack joke over people calling her that, and tell Cloud his place isn’t with them yet.")
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Snow Villiers and Serah – Final Fantasy XIII – Engaged
Before I asked you to marry me, I wished that you’d say yes.
(Snow and Serah are engaged to be married, something which Serah’s sister, Claire "Lightning" Ferron, does not approve of. But when Serah is branded as Pulse l’Cie, everything seems to fall into doubt. Snow assures her that he will stick by her no matter what and then proves it when he travels into the fal’Cie to try to rescue her. She turns to crystal and Snow believes that her mission was to save Cocoon. When the entire group is branded as Pulse l’Cie, he sticks with this belief, eventually allowing the group to carve a new fate. In the game’s ending, everyone is decrystallized and Snow & Serah reunite. Presumably they get married and live happily ever after, though I expect Final Fantasy XIII-2 will tell us more about that.)
Cloud & Aeris: 5
Snow & Serah: 0
That concludes this round! Here are the remaining sixteen contenders:
Firion and Maria – Final Fantasy II – Childhood Friends
Cecil Harvey and Rosa Joanna Farrell – Final Fantasy IV ??? Married
Celes Chere and Locke Cole – Final Fantasy VI ??? Lovers
Edgar Roni and Sabin Rene Figaro – Final Fantasy VI ??? Brothers
Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockhart – Final Fantasy VII – Childhood Friends
Cloud Strife and Aeris/th Gainsborough – Final Fantasy VII ??? Romantic X
Aeris/th Gainsborough and Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII – Antagonists
Nanaki and Bugenhagen – Final Fantasy VII – Grandfather and Adoptive Grandson
Reno and Rude – Final Fantasy VII ??? Partners
Scarlet and Heidegger – Final Fantasy VII ??? Coworkers
Laguna and Raine Loire – Final Fantasy VIII ??? Married
Cid and Edea Kramer – Final Fantasy VIII ??? Married
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII ??? Comrades
Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX ??? Married
Queen Brahne and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Mother and Adoptive Daughter
Balthier and Fran – Final Fantasy XII ??? Partners
Let’s begin the first battle of the third round!
Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockhart – Final Fantasy VII – Childhood Friends
Cloud: Tifa was in a coma for seven days. We all thought she wouldn’t make it. If only I could’ve saved her… I was so angry… Angry at myself for my weakness. Ever since then, I felt Tifa blamed me… I got out of control… I’d get into fights not even caring who it was. That was the first time I heard about Sephiroth. If I got strong like Sephiroth, then everyone might… If I could just get stronger…… Then even Tifa would have to notice me……
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Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII – Comrades
Zell, Selphie, Biggs and Wedge: AAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Biggs: S-So we meet again! Now we’ll teach you the lesson we should have taught you earlier! I know it might seem cowardly to fight unarmed prisoners… …But I hope you appreciate our position. Hey, it’s a dog eat do…
Wedge: Uh, they are fully armed, sir…
Biggs: W-WHAT!? H-Ho-How…? Ahh, hell with it! Let’s go, Wedge! … … I was demoted because of you! I’m only a lieutenant now! I’ll get my revenge!
Even though Biggs and Wedge are cool
Even though Biggs and Wedge are cool
Fuck all you people for not voting for Serah and Snow. And, not telling me about this rumble ๐ก
:awsm:
Cloud & Tifa: 3
Biggs & Wedge: 5
Next up, we’ve got…
Cid and Edea Kramer – Final Fantasy VIII – Married
Squall): "Please tell me about Sorceress Edea. I heard she’s your wife."
Headmaster Cid: "You’re quite right… She had been a sorceress since childhood. I married her, knowing that. We were happy. We worked together, the two of us. We were very happy. One day, Edea began talking about building
the Garden and training SeeD. I became obsessed with the plan. But I was very
concerned with SeeD’s goal, that one day SeeD might fight Edea… She laughed and told me that would never happen. However…"
(Cid and Edea are married. They first got married a long time ago and Edea was the Matron in the orphanage where Squall and co. grew up. Together, Cid and Edea founded Garden, but then, Edea became possessed by Ultimecia, leaving Cid as the headmaster of a Garden that was training SeeDs with skills that might be used to fight his wife.)
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Balthier and Fran – Final Fantasy XII – Partners
Balthier: Not many Viera where you come from, thief?
Vaan: It’s Vaan. Sorry…
Balthier: Well, Fran is special…in that she’d deign to partner with a hume.
Fran: Oh? Like a Sky Pirate that chooses to steal through the sewers?
Vaan: Pirates? You’re Sky Pirates? So you have an airship?
Balthier: It’s Balthier.
(Balthier and Fran are partners in sky piracy. At some unspecified point in Balthier’s adventures, the two of them met up and joined forces. Balthier, original name Ffamran mied Bunansa, is the son of Dr. Cidolfus Bunansa, but has renounced his father, whom he believes to be mad. He considers himself the "leading man" of the adventure, but places great value in the wisdom and knowledge of his Viera partner.)
Cid and Edea: 4
Balthier and Fran: 2
Looks like the couple from FFVIII are headed to the next round. No more characters from FFXII! Next we’ve got…
Celes Chere and Locke Cole – Final Fantasy VI – Lovers
Come on! This floor’s about to break apart!
Celes: LOCKE!!
Locke: I will not let go… …I promise! You almost ate it trying to pick up that silly trinket!
(Celes and Locke meet early on in Final Fantasy VI and Locke offers Celes his protection. As the game continues, they grow closer. If you find Phoenix, then in an optional scene, Locke’s former flame, Rachel, lets go and tells Locke go on living his life, giving her endorsement for him to be happy with Celes. If you do not find Locke in the optional sidequest, then Celes grabs for the bandana, saying that it’s her good luck charm and pleads for Locke to come back to her someday.)
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Nanaki and Bugenhagen – Final Fantasy VII – Grandfather and Adoptive Grandson
Red XIII: Cloud, this is my grandfather, Bugen. He is incredible. He knows everything.
Bugenhagen: Ho Ho Hoooo. I hear that you looked after Nanaki a bit. Nanaki is still a child you see.
Red XIII: Please stop, grandfather. I’m 48.
(Bugenhagen is the adoptive grandfather of Red XIII/Nanaki. Red XIII looks up to and respects Bugenhagen, an elderly man who is filled with wisdom about The Planet and who has an interesting past as well.)
Celes and Locke
Celes and Locke: 7
Nanaki and Bugenhagen: 2
Next up:
Scarlet and Heidegger – Final Fantasy VII – Coworkers
Heidegger: G’yaaa, Haaa, Haaa!!! Here they come! G’yaaa, Haaa, Haaa!!! So they really showed up! You sure did treat us like dogs up to now!!
Scarlet: You killed off a lot of my precious soldiers!
Heidegger: G’yaaa, Haaa, Haaa!!! But let’s see how you do against anti-Weapon artillery!
Scarlet: You guys are worthless, but my proud creation is a sure thing! I’ll show you the destructive power of the Proud Clod!
(Scarlet and Heidegger are coworkers at Shinra Inc. Cait Sith dubbed them "G’yaa haa haa and K’yaa haa haa" due to their distinctive laughs. Both don’t seem to possess even an ounce of a conscience and both are great at plotting and scheming. Scarlet is particularly nasty to Tifa. Both meet their downfall when they are trapped in their own Proud Cloud, which Cloud and crew bust up.)
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Laguna and Raine Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Married
Laguna: Raine’s story? Some other time, maybe. No…I can’t. It’s too much for me to remember.
(Raine first met Laguna when she tended to him after he stumbled into Winhill. Despite Laguna’s many faults, she grew to love him. But Laguna was restless and he ended up becoming the president of Esthar. At some point, however, Laguna and Raine got married and conceived a child, Squall Leonhart. Raine died in childbirth.)
Laguna and Raine: 6
Scarlett and Heidegger: 1
Next, we have…
Firion and Maria – Final Fantasy II – Childhood Friends
Leon: We’ve been through too much. We can’t return to the past.
Maria: Wait, Leon! Why? Firion, please don’t let him go!
Firion: What Leon said is true, Maria. I can’t stop him from going. We shall meet again, Leon!
(Firion and Maria are childhood friends. They lived a comfortable life in the kingdom of Fynn along with their friend Gus and Maria’s brother Leon, but everything changed when The Empire attacked. Leon is separated from the group and Firion and Maria, along with the somewhat childlike Gus, began a quest to save the world. I believe Firion is also a key character in Dissidia.)
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Queen Brahne and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Mother and Adoptive Daughter
Vivi: I don’t know why Bahamut attacked the one who summoned him. But we found Queen Brahne on the beach, next to her escape pod. She could hardly move. And I thought she’d come to a stop any second. I hate Kuja a lot. But I hate Brahne a lot, too… …so much that I wanted this to happen to her. I should be happy, but… Once I saw Dagger start to cry, I didn’t know how I should feel. I kind of wanted to cry, too…
Brahne: I…I…can hear…my daughter’s voice.
Dagger: Yes, Mother! I’m here! Right here…
Brahne: I…I am empty now… Free… Free…of that…terrible… greed…
Dagger: Mother…
Brahne: I haven’t…felt this way…since I saw that play…with you…and your father. I led…Alexandria…down…the path… of ruin… The people…will be…happier…with you…on the throne…
(Queen Brahne and Garnet are mother and adoptive daughter. After Queen Brahne lost her original daughter, she and her husband rescued Garnet from a ship at sea and raised her as their own. But something happened to Queen Brahne following her husband’s death and she became possessed of a terrible greed. Though Garnet never stopped loving her, she knew that something was very wrong with her mom and her actions. Though the two ended up aligned against each other, they made their peace in the end.)
Dagger & Brahne
Dagger and Brahne: 5
Firion and Maria: 0
Next battle, we have:
Edgar Roni and Sabin Rene Figaro – Final Fantasy VI – Brothers
Sabin: I didn’t turn my back on the kingdom, big bro. I knew you’d be a better king. I trained hard, knowing I might have to help you one day. Now I know why I have these stupid muscles!
(Edgar and Sabin are royal brothers. But Sabin seemingly forsook the kingdom and ran away. It turns out he was actually in training to protect the kingdom, so that Edgar could be the one to rule it. The two reunite during the adventure of Final Fantasy VI and together make a great team. They are also known as "Edgar & Mash.")
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Reno and Rude – Final Fantasy VII – Partners
Reno: Hey, Rude. Who do you like? What are you getting so embarrassed about? Come on? Who do you like?
Rude: ………..Tifa.
Reno: Hmmmm……. That’s a tough one. But, poor Elena. She…. you……
Rude: No, she likes Tseng.
Reno: I never knew that! But Tseng likes that Ancient…
Cloud: What are they talking about?
Elena: It’s so stupid! They always talk about who they like or don’t like. But Tseng is different. Ah! Oh no!
(Reno and Rude are partners in Final Fantasy VII, comrades in the Turks. Elena joins later as a sort of third ranger, but Reno and Rude have a personal bond. They later return and are seen working together in Advent Children, and even more so in Advent Children Complete.)
Edgar and Sabin
I hate you for making me choose. Loves me some Reno and Rude ๐
Reno & Rude
I love Edgar and Sabin, but not because of their relationship.
If only this round and the last one had been switched up. ; ;
Reno & Rude: 7
Edgar & Sabin: 6
Next…
Cloud Strife and Aeris/th Gainsborough – Final Fantasy VII – Romantic
Cait Sith: This isn’t good. I can’t say it. Poor Tifa.
Aeris/th: No! Tell me! I promise I won’t get mad!
Cait Sith: Is that so? Then I’ll tell you. Looks good. You are perfect for each other! Aeris/th’s star and Cloud’s star! They show a great future! Cloud, I’ll be your matchmaker, preacher… I’ll do whatever you want me to You just call me when it all happens!
(This may possibly be the most well-known "romantic" Final Fantasy couple of all time. But in the game itself, the two don’t really have all that much time for romance, other than the Gold Saucer date, if Aeris is the one to choose Cloud. The two flirt, but in the end, Aeris/th gives her life for the Planet. In Advent Children, at the end, "Cloud senses Aerith’s presence and also mistakes her as his mother. She and Zack joke over people calling her that, and tell Cloud his place isn’t with them yet.")
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Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Married
Marcus: So, the sun is our enemy, too. The eastern sky grows bright. Will we not spread our wings, as yonder birds in joyous flight?
Cinna: Hark, Marcus! They cannot wait any longer! The ship departs!
Marcus: Could she have betrayed me? Nay, ne’er would my love speak false. I must have faith! She shall appear if I only believe! As the sun lends me no ear, I pray instead to the twin moons! I beseech thee, wondrous moonlight, grant me my only wish!
Zidane: Bring my beloved Dagger to me!
Garnet/Dagger: How did you survive…?
Zidane: I didn’t have a choice. I had to live. I wanted to come home to you. So… I sang your song. Our song.
(Zidane and Garnet first come to know each other when Zidane and the Tantalus crew stage a kidnapping of her. She asks Zidane to be kidnapped, as she wishes to travel to Lindblum in order to speak with her Uncle Cid. As they journey, Zidane schools her the ways of appearing as a commoner, much to the disdain of Captain Adelbert Steiner. As the game continues, they grow closer and closer. Though I don’t believe it’s ever been officially confirmed, it can be reasonably assumed that they married following the events of the game and Lived Happily Ever After.)
Cloud and Aeris: 4
The lovers from FFIX squeak on by! Ready for the last battle of this round?!
Cecil Harvey and Rosa Joanna Farrell – Final Fantasy IV – Married
Cecil: Step aside, Rosa.
Rosa: I’m not going anywhere. Why not? Without me along, who will heal you when you’re hurt?
Cecil: Rosa…
Kain: You can’t win this one, Cecil.
Edge: No use arguing with a woman.
Cecil: Then I’ll argue no more.
(Cecil and Rosa meet through the events of Final Fantasy IV, but Cecil has a protective nature. Though he doesn’t want to see Rosa hurt, he can’t stop her from following him into danger. At the end of the game, the two marry and take the throne of Baron.)
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Aeris/th Gainsborough and Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII – Antagonists
Cloud: Thank you… Aeris/th. Aeris/th’s voice has already reached the Planet. Just look at the glow of the White Materia. But…… how about Holy? How come Holy isn’t moving? Why?
Bugenhagen: Something’s getting in its way.
Cloud: ……Him…… He’s the only one that could do it. …Sephiroth. Where are you?
(Aeris/th and Sephiroth are antagonists and Sephiroth ends up being Aeris/th’s murderer. But her sacrifice is not in vain, for her prayer for Holy reached the Planet. The rest is left up to Cloud and company, who travel into the Northern Cave to defeat Sephiroth, allowing things to unfold from there.)
Thank you for dealing with her, Sephy baby <3
Thank you for dealing with her, Sephy baby <3
:-O I take back my marriage proposal. YOU BASTARD!!!! ๐ hehe
Cecil & Rosa: 5
Sephiroth & Aeris: 2
That concludes this round. Here are our remaining challengers:
Cecil Harvey and Rosa Joanna Farrell – Final Fantasy IV – Married
Celes Chere and Locke Cole – Final Fantasy VI – Lovers
Reno and Rude – Final Fantasy VII – Partners
Laguna and Raine Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Married
Cid and Edea Kramer – Final Fantasy VIII – Married
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII – Comrades
Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Married
Queen Brahne and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Mother and Adoptive Daughter
Let’s get started with the next round!
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII – Comrades
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Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Married
I’d say Reno and Rude ๐
Xx..xX
Laguna & Raine: 6
Cecil & Rosa: 4
We’re getting close to the end. Here are the four remaining contenders.
Celes Chere and Locke Cole – Final Fantasy VI ??? Lovers
Reno and Rude – Final Fantasy VII ??? Partners
Laguna and Raine Loire – Final Fantasy VIII ??? Married
Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX ??? Married
Here is the next battle!
Celes Chere and Locke Cole – Final Fantasy VI – Lovers
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Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Married
Zidane and Garnet
Celes & Locke Lost to Zidane & Garnet?… Fail.
Celes & Locke Lost to Zidane & Garnet?… Fail.
This. The traitor will be dealt with.
Reno and Rude
I know I’ll probably get a lot of flak for this, but I find Reno more annoying than appealing.
Reno and Rude
I am casting this vote out of spite.
I am casting this vote out of spite.
Exciting…
Edit: I’ll give this one until tomorrow to give last minute voters a chance to vote for their favorite characters.
Zidane & Garnet: 5
Reno & Rude: 4
And our winner by a single vote is….
Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Married
If you guys want to do another FF rumble, throw out some suggestions. I’m not really up for running the next one, though, so anyone who wants to take it up as leader should make it known.
On the subject of the next rumble, I can’t do it, but I always liked the idea for the "create a character" rumble, or battle themes, or mini games–although all of those have been done before.
EDIT: Also, I hate to advertise across threads. I never do it. I just keep my info in my signature normally, but we are doing our 16th rumble over in the Video Game Music Rumble (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f63/official-video-game-music-rumble-66118/60.html#post2006728) thread, and it’s a big one. I just wanted people to know, if they didn’t already, that we’re pitting video game music composers and their entire careers against one another. If you know a composer already, there’s all kinds of bonus stuff to check out. And if you don’t know a composer, included are a few of their best pieces to get a sense of their style. This is a big, blowout, everything I’ve got kind of thing. Put a lot of effort into it, and it’d be awesome to see some new (or old) faces. The more, the merrier. Plus, you may hear music you’ve never heard before and gain a new favorite composer. ๐
Long live all of the rumble threads.
Zidane & Garnet: 5
Reno & Rude: 4
And our winner by a single vote is….
Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Married
If you guys want to do another FF rumble, throw out some suggestions. I’m not really up for running the next one, though, so anyone who wants to take it up as leader should make it known.
Suck it haters. Booyah.
Is there a wallpaper size of that pic? It is quite nice.
Video Game Music Rumble (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f63/official-video-game-music-rumble-66118/60.html#post2006728) thread, and it’s a big one. I just wanted people to know, if they didn’t already, that we’re pitting video game music composers and their entire careers against one another. If you know a composer already, there’s all kinds of bonus stuff to check out. And if you don’t know a composer, included are a few of their best pieces to get a sense of their style. This is a big, blowout, everything I’ve got kind of thing. Put a lot of effort into it, and it’d be awesome to see some new (or old) faces. The more, the merrier. Plus, you may hear music you’ve never heard before and gain a new favorite composer. ๐
Long live all of the rumble threads.
Cool. I’ll take a look.
I think that’s the original size. Nothing some cropping couldn’t fix, though.
A couple of friends from my town are participating on a contest of K-Pop Dance and if their video gets more views and Likes, the better for them.
I’ll just leave the Link, Even if you don’t like the dancing or the Genre. Just 2 Clicks and with each grain of sand, the castle can be built.
Concurso de Baile de KPOP por Video – Santiago del Estero – Eternal – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Aip9wiG5U)
My Final Fantasy Collection Part 1 – YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nClC_jgKS0)
… and yet you’re a member of a Final Fantasy based forum. Yeah, that’s logical.
Greetings! Welcome everyone to the second thread for this now fairly long-running game, The General Final Fantasy Rumble. Welcome back to all the old hands!
<font color="red">If you’re visiting for the first time, please familiarize yourself with the rules, which appear below the list of current entrants. If you’ve been around for a while, then a refresher couldn’t hurt, but you’re welcome to skip past these:</font>
Current Edition – Character Pairings – Round 2
Firion and Maria – Final Fantasy II – Childhood Friends (Going on to Round 3)
Cecil Harvey and Rosa Joanna Farrell – Final Fantasy IV – Married
Strago Magus and Relm Arrowny – Final Fantasy VI – Grandfather and Granddaughter (Eliminated in Round 1)
Celes Chere and Locke Cole – Final Fantasy VI – Lovers (Going on to Round 3)
Edgar Roni and Sabin Rene Figaro – Final Fantasy VI – Brothers (Going on to Round 3)
Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockhart – Final Fantasy VII – Childhood Friends (Going on to Round 3)
Cloud Strife and Aeris/th Gainsborough – Final Fantasy VII – Romantic
Cloud Strife and Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII – War Buddies (Eliminated in Round 2)
Aeris/th Gainsborough and Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII – Antagonists
Barrett Wallace and Marlene – Final Fantasy VII – Father and Adoptive Daughter (Eliminated in Round 2)
Nanaki and Bugenhagen – Final Fantasy VII – Grandfather and Adoptive Grandson (Going on to Round 3)
Reno and Rude – Final Fantasy VII – Partners (Going on to Round 3)
Elena and Tseng – Final Fantasy VII – Lovers
Scarlet and Heidegger – Final Fantasy VII – Coworkers (Going on to Round 3)
Squall Leonhart and Laguna Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Son and Father (Eliminated in Round 2)
Squall Leonhart and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Rivals (Eliminated in Round 2)
Zell Dincht and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Rivals (Eliminated in Round 2)
Rinoa Heartilly and Seifer Almasy – Final Fantasy VIII – Formerly Dating
Laguna and Raine Loire – Final Fantasy VIII – Married (Going on to Round 3)
Fujin and Raijin – Final Fantasy VIII – Friends/Partners (Eliminated in Round 2)
Cid and Edea Kramer – Final Fantasy VIII – Married (Going on to Round 3)
Biggs and Wedge – Final Fantasy VIII – Comrades (Going on to Round 3)
Marcus and Blank – Final Fantasy IX – "Brothers" (Eliminated in Round 2)
Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros – Final Fantasy IX – Married (Going on to Round 3)
Queen Brahne and Garnet Til Alexandros Is immortality possible (http://www.theimmortalitysecret.com/is-immortality-possible/)- Final Fantasy IX – Mother and Adoptive Daughter
Garland and Kuja – Final Fantasy IX – Creator and Creation (Eliminated in Round 2)
Biran and Yenke – Final Fantasy X – Friends (Eliminated in Round 2)
Wakka and Lulu – Final Fantasy X-2 – Husband and Wife (Eliminated in Round 2)
Brother and Buddy – Final Fantasy X-2 – Best Friends (Eliminated in Round 2)
Basch fon Ronsenburg and Reks – Final Fantasy XII – Captain and Soldier
Balthier and Fran – Final Fantasy XII – Partners (Going on to Round 3)
Snow Villiers and Serah – Final Fantasy XIII – Engaged
<font color="red">Rules:
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<li>In each edition of the Rumble, a list of Final Fantasy things that are related in some way (such as music pieces, FMVs, etc.) is compiled, sometimes by me, sometimes with the help of nominations.
<li>Battles are held one-on-one in a series of round until things get down to one final battle, determining the winner for that edition of the Rumble.
<li>In the first round, ties are broken this way — whichever entrant was winning before the battle ended continues to the next round. In rounds after that, tie-breakers are based on the percentage of votes than an entrant received in past rounds.
<li>Generally, each round is left open for 48 hours, but it might sometimes be more or less. The rumble is usually updated somewhere between 9 P.M. and 1 A.M. eastern time. Usually it won’t go any longer except under special circumstances. If an entrant is winning by a blowout of four votes or more (formerly six votes), I will end that battle as soon as I notice it and a new battle what are dreams (http://www.theimmortalitysecret.com/what-are-dreams/) will immediately commence.
<li>Discussion is usually not allowed, however, you are encouraged to post your thoughts with your vote. This helps me to count the vote total without confusion. If you have any questions, please PM (private message) Agent0042.
<li>You are asked to put your vote (only your vote, not any other included discussion) in bold, although this is not required. To bold your vote, put b within < > or [ ] before it and /b within < > or [ ] after it.
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Here are the results from all past editions:
Character Themes – Tifa’s Theme (Tifa’s Seventh Heaven) (Final Fantasy VII)
Summons – Knights of the Round (Final Fantasy VII)
Weapons – Masamune (Sephiroth) (Final Fantasy VII)
Outfits – Cloud Strife (Final Fantasy VII)
Overdrives/Limits – Renzokuken Special Lionheart (Squall) (Final Fantasy VIII)
Most Overrated Character – Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
FMVs – Ending (Back to the New Present / Ending and Credits / Together at Last) (Final Fantasy VIII)
NPCs – Regent Cid Fabool (Final Fantasy IX)
Best Final Fantasy Scene – Zidane’s Big Reveal (Final Fantasy IX)
Battle Themes – One Winged Angel (Final Fantasy VII)
Bosses – Ultros (Final Fantasy VI) how to become immortal (http://www.theimmortalitysecret.com/how-to-become-immortal/)
Character Themes 2 – Red XIII’s Theme (Final Fantasy VII)
Most Underrated Character – Jessie (Final Fantasy VII)
"Create-a-Character" – Lulu’s Hairstyle (Final Fantasy X/X-2), Quina Quen’s Facial Features, Auron’s Sunglasses (Final Fantasy X), Freya Crescent’s Outfit (Final Fantasy IX), Black Mage
Categorized Music Themes 2 – Mystery Sword (Final Fantasy IX)
Greatest Quotes – Kuja’s First Act: The End of Ugly Desire (Final Fantasy IX)
Coolest Monster Design – Malboro
Coolest Monster Design, Special Class – Mega Tonberry
Best Optional Boss – Tantarian (Final Fantasy IX)
Mini-Games – Blitzball (Final Fantasy X)
Best Gameplay Innovation – FMVs / Full Motion Videos (Final Fantasy VII and onwards)
Best Vehicle – Balamb Garden (Final Fantasy VIII)
Categorized Music Themes, Original Themes (But Different Tunes) – Cid’s Theme (Final Fantasy VII)
Abilities – Mug/Steal (Most Final Fantasies)
Most Boring/Annoying Subplot/Sidequest – Thunder Dodging (Final Fantasy X — dodge 200 lightning bolts in the Thunder Plains)
Character Themes 3 – Kefka (Final Fantasy VI)
Bosses 2 – Gilgamesh (Final Fantasy V)
Blue Magic / Enemy Skills – Blowfish / 1000 Needles (Several FFs)
Categorized Locations – Lindblum (Final Fantasy IX)
Subvillains – The Turks (Final Fantasy VII)
Missions – Sorceress Assassination Mission (Final Fantasy VIII)
Battle/Chase Themes – Dancing Mad (Final Fantasy VI)
Most Annoying / Earworm Music – Chocobo (Final Fantasy X-2)
Command Abilities – Mug (Many FFs)
Support Abilities – Auto Life (Many FFs)
Okay, now for the new edition! We’re going to be doing something a bit different here. My idea is to have a series of battles in brackets. There will be four brackets, with eight music pieces in each bracket, all fitting a certain category. In the first round, two pieces from each each bracket will battle each in turn, then there’ll be three more goes at that at until there are sixteen pieces left. At that point, Round 2 will begin and things will be held like a normal rumble. No underrated/overrated stuff this time, you’re voting for which ones you like, plain and simple.
Most Joyful
Main Theme – Final Fantasy IV
The Dragon Spreads Its Wings – Final Fantasy V (Going on to Round 2)
Locke – Final Fantasy VI (Eliminated in Round 1)
Descendant of the Shenobi (Yuffie’s Theme) – Final Fantasy VII
Ride On (Ragnarok Theme) – Final Fantasy VIII (Going on to Round 2)
Rikku’s Theme – Final Fantasy X
Epilogue ~ Good Ending – Final Fantasy X-2 (Eliminated in Round 1)
Nomination Spot 1
Most Relaxing
Samba de Chocobo – Final Fantasy V
A Secret, Sleeping Beneath the Deep Blue Sea – Final Fantasy VII (Eliminated in Round 1)
Ahead on Our Way – Final Fantasy VII (Going on to Round 2)
Buried in the Snow – Final Fantasy VII
Balamb Garden – Final Fantasy VIII
Besaid Island – Final Fantasy X (Eliminated in Round 1)
To the End of the Abyss – Final Fantasy X
Frontier Village ~Dali – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)
Most Emotional
Aeris’s Theme – Final Fantasy VII
On the Other Side of the Mountain – Final Fantasy VII (Eliminated in Round 1)
Ami – Final Fantasy VIII (Eliminated in Round 1)
Melodies of Life – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)
Suteki da Ne – Final Fantasy X
1000 Words (Orchestra) – Final Fantasy X-2
Yuna’s Ballad – Final Fantasy X-2 (Going on to Round 2)
Nomination Spot 3
Most Intense
Battle with Gilgamesh – Final Fantasy V (Eliminated in Round 1)
The Fierce Battle – Final Fantasy VI
Weapon Raid – Final Fantasy VII
The Landing – Final Fantasy VIII
Retaliation – Final Fantasy VIII
Feel My Blade – Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)
The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons – Final Fantasy IX
Nomination Spot 4
And our first battle is —
The Dragon Spreads Its Wings – Final Fantasy V (Oh, I love this one! It plays when you’re riding the dragon in Final Fantasy V. Very joyful and fun to listen to.)
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Epilogue ~ Good Ending – Final Fantasy X-2 (A very joyful and triumphant piece that plays when you get the Good Ending for Final Fantasy X-2. Well, I wouldn’t say that the entirety of the piece can be called joyful, but for the most part, it is. This is another one I really like, but then again, I’m a big fan of most of the pieces in this edition.)
(For this battle only, I’m putting the battle in bold to draw attention to it, since there’s a lot of info in this first post.)
Not sure you remember what a particular piece sounds like? There are MIDIs available at the main FFShrine site, but be aware that the quality of them varies greatly from piece to piece and for some games, not all songs are available. You might do better to check the game if you have it, or get an MP3, I suppose. Also, note that sometimes the names on the MIDIs don’t quite match the names I use.
Do notice that there are four nomination spots, one for each bracket. Please, please, if you have any suggestions for what should fill those spots, post it with your votes. Your nominations can be from any Final Fantasy game, including Tactics or XI. Hell, I’d even be glad to throw in Kingdom Hearts if enough people say they’d be interested in seeing it.
P.S.: If this edition is pretty popular, I might do it again sometime — there’s a lot of pieces I wanted to include but had to pass on to at least try to mix things up a bit as far as the number of pieces from each game that were included.
Note: The edition featured in this post was disrupted by a forum hack. It did eventually finish, however, the record of it was not saved.