My fave band is system of a down but if anyone knows of some heavy metal bands that are really heavy but not like death kinda heavy then let me know and ill dl some songs
You should learn about a musical genre before you start talking about it!
First of all there are many different catagories in metal. The ones I’ll talk about are Death, Thrash, Black, and Nu.
Thrash Metal is a very fast and agressive type of metal. Such Thrash bands would include Ministry, Testament, Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax, and Megadeth.
Death Metal is a very dark and hateful form of thrash, such bands include Cannibal Corpse, Dying Fetus, Morbid Angel, and Behemoth.
Black Metal is a very creepy, epic, and pure evil form of metal. Some bands would include Venom, Mayhem, Emperor, Cradle of Filth, Darkthrone, Haemoth, and Dimmu Borgir.
Nu Metal is a hybrid of various elements of music combined with 7-string guitars and usually whiney lyrics. Various bands include KoRn, Papa Roach, Limp Bizkit, System of a Down, Drowning Pool, Slipknot, and Marilyn Manson.
Besides I started a metal thread a month back, go look for that.
My fave band is system of a down but if anyone knows of some heavy metal bands that are really heavy but not like death kinda heavy then let me know and ill dl some songs
As my brother says, this is proof that Darwin was right.
No no no no no don’t even… damn it.
i made this thread because i couldnt find any metal threads in the music section and i didnt think there’d be any metal threads in the final fantasy sections… im sorry for the inconvinience of this thread.
Alright, I’ll stop, I’ll stop. Jesus TK calm down. I did learn some restraint. It’s not like I was gonna write another "Emo Extermination."
btw power metal is cool metal genre too..check out bands like hammerfall and dragonforce \m/
Also worth a look are: In Flames, Soilwork, Children of Bodom, Dimmu Borgir..
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I don’t really care for other bands that sound similar though, which is weird!
I’m all about System of a Down, but I don’t know what they’re doing in this thread as there is really nothing metal about them. They’re far closer to punk/hardcore (am I the only one who hears the intense Dead Kennedys influence?) if you want to categorize them as something.
punk my ass biatchay! have you even heard the NAME of the band? jebus you should listen to some of their songs before you catagorize them! i suggest litening to the songs "chik’n’stu", "needles", "P.L.U.C.K" and "plastic jesus"
You are an idiot who has no conception of what metal actually is. I’ve listened to lots of System of a Down and I know a hell of a lot more about classic metal AND punk than you, and to anyone with a remotely well trained ear, System of a Down sounds nothing like metal at all. "Metal" doesn’t mean "there are guitars with heavy distortion."
Yeah you tell him!
Metal? Boring? 🙁
Jello Biafra sang that? :confused: lol, i should prob BUY the albums instead of dl the songs cos dl can be misleading 😛 i should prob do some research on metal and crap.. but i wont cos i dont give a crap what anyone else says or how its classified on the net and crap… music is music, and people might classify certain music diferently than its "technically" classified.. id rather look at the bands i like as metal and i dont want to take crappy advice from people who think they know stuff just cos they’ve studied it alot.. id rather trust ma own brain than read someone elses (sorry if i seemed to change my opinon several times just then :-P)
Don’t act like I’m the snob here, though. I just made a completely unmalicious statement, and you’re the one who came in with the "WTF U R WRONG" stuff.
Sorry TK, you’re wrong there. They’re…eh…probably somewhere between Heavy and Nu Metal. With a little bit of experimental crap in there for good fun. They’re not punk or hardcore. Their vocals are far too clean and the songs too…straight? Is that even the word? I dunno, maybe I mean formulaic. They’re just not as random as punk/hardcore stuff.
I classify them as Heavy Metal, because they’re too clever to be consider Nu. They’re also heavier than I’d consider a lot of punk, honestly.
You also can’t even talk about it!!
I classify them as Heavy Metal, because they’re too clever to be consider Nu. They’re also heavier than I’d consider a lot of punk, honestly.
How much punk… or hardcore, for that matter… do you really listen to? I’m not entirely sure what you mean by "random," but I’m guessing you mean lacking in formal structure, in which case you’d be spot on about hardcore but dead wrong about punk. Punk is some of the most repetitive, structured music around, and is the exact opposite of random. I have no idea what the hell you’re talking about, really.
The only thing remotely "metal" sounding about SoaD is the "heavy" sound of their guitars. The simplicity of the music (please don’t try to tell me it’s complicated, it’s not even close), the power chord usage, and yes, the song structure is far closer to punk than it is to metal. Hell, even the lyrics are much more characteristic of punk. Metal is characterized by an intense focus on lead guitar and a totally different style of rhythm than punk, and SoaD sound nothing like it. Seriously, take two quintessential bands of each genre, say Slayer and the Dead Kennedys, and listen to them side by side. Then put on SoaD, and tell me which one it sounds closer to. I guarantee it won’t be Slayer.
I didn’t really mean I’d throw them in the "punk" category, though. I don’t think they belong there. Notice how I said "they’re far closer" rather than "they belong in." I’m just saying if you have to categorize them, that’s the closest heavily used genre. Because it is.
Well not to say boring but it doesn’t interest me well, but I have the highest respect for it. Like Fear Factory Fan told me, it is so comlex and they do things that other preformers don’t. Mebe I don’t listen to the right kind?…
true…true….haha
The only thing remotely "metal" sounding about SoaD is the "heavy" sound of their guitars. The simplicity of the music (please don’t try to tell me it’s complicated, it’s not even close), the power chord usage, and yes, the song structure is far closer to punk than it is to metal. Hell, even the lyrics are much more characteristic of punk. Metal is characterized by an intense focus on lead guitar and a totally different style of rhythm than punk, and SoaD sound nothing like it. Seriously, take two quintessential bands of each genre, say Slayer and the Dead Kennedys, and listen to them side by side. Then put on SoaD, and tell me which one it sounds closer to. I guarantee it won’t be Slayer.
I didn’t really mean I’d throw them in the "punk" category, though. I don’t think they belong there. Notice how I said "they’re far closer" rather than "they belong in." I’m just saying if you have to categorize them, that’s the closest heavily used genre. Because it is.
And I’m gonna ask you, straight up, how much metal you listen to. Because then we can both admit we’re a little uneducated about eachother’s genres and make peace.
Basically, Slayer aren’t a lot like a lot of metal. Compare them to say, Metallica, and even then they’re not THAT similar. Hell, they’re thrash metal, of a kind that really doesn’t exist anymore.
And I’d say that Metallica were more the quintessential (yes, probably sp, I’m tired and my ears are popping) band of the genre – and in this case, SOAD sound far more like them than TDK. Nine Inch Nails are another one, though they sit a bit too close to industrial at times, but SoAD again have similarities to them. I’d say they’re trying to masquerade as experimental metal � la faith no more without the chops, and thus just sound (to me, at least, and I’ve listened to both a considerable amount) like a derivative, wacky Metallica. Except even more simplistic.
Sabbath could also be – probably more readily – considered quintessencial too, and in that case, they’ve influenced most of metal, and most definitely SOAD.
But this is besides the point. Those two bands are far more similiar and influential upon SOAD than the dead kennedys – if you have some more examples I’ll consider them. SOAD are metal, as weak and simple as their music can be at times. They are not punk. If we’re going to talk style and rhythm, then we’re going to get into the semantics of genre, and bust open an entire can of worms that I’d rather would stay shut. You could put together different bands from different genres with an arbitrary third party and say "which does this sound similar to," then declare the third party of the closest genre…but that wouldn’t prove much.
No, no, I was just surprised…haha, its absolutely fine that you don’t like it..btw, what bands have you listened to?
You listen to the arse-ends of metal. You do not listen to heavy metal if these are the bands you listen to.
hey im makin a post about heavy metal music.. heavy metal is not to be mistaken for light metal (metalica) or death metal (marilyn manson). Heavy metal is heavier than light metal and not as heavy as death metal. and example pf heavy metal bands are: korn, system of a down, disturbed.
My mistake.
thats have to be one of the stupiest things ive ever heard. i was laughing in 10min…one of the greatest laugh’s i have ever had.:)
I have listened to quite a bit more metal than I would ever care to, partly in my own explorations of music and partly because of all the people I’ve known who were into it. I even listen to a small ammount of it, every now and then, when I happen to be in the mood. A rare occurance, I assue you.
Basically, Slayer aren’t a lot like a lot of metal. Compare them to say, Metallica, and even then they’re not THAT similar. Hell, they’re thrash metal, of a kind that really doesn’t exist anymore. And I’d say that Metallica were more the quintessential (yes, probably sp, I’m tired and my ears are popping) band of the genre – and in this case, SOAD sound far more like them than TDK.
Metallica and Slayer are a lot closer to each other than most metal bands, I’d say. At least older Metallica.
Obviously, it depends a lot which song you’re listening to as SoaD tend to vary a lot. But they sure as hell don’t sound anything like Metallica. I’ve never heard an SoaD song that I thought of as even similar to them. But really, Slayer was just the first really well known metal band I’m aware of. The same is true if you put Metallica in that comparison, or Iron Maiden, or Dragon Force, or Black Sabbath, or the fucking Sex Machineguns if you want. They don’t even sound at all like "progressive" metal like Dream Theater.
Nine Inch Nails are another one, though they sit a bit too close to industrial at times, but SoAD again have similarities to them. I’d say they’re trying to masquerade as experimental metal � la faith no more without the chops, and thus just sound (to me, at least, and I’ve listened to both a considerable amount) like a derivative, wacky Metallica. Except even more simplistic.
I really kind of worry when you start involving NIN. I have never met a person who was into metal who even liked NIN, let alone thought they were a part of the genre. All the kids I know who are into them are into Skinnypuppy and that sort of shit. There’s nothing remotely metal about NIN.
When you involve too much "simplistic," it really isn’t metal anymore. Metal’s complex by nature. That’s why "numetal" needed a new genre name, and why SoaD gets thrown in with them: Because they have the "heavy" and "dark" sound of metal, but none of the complexity or style. Only I don’t think SoaD really belong in that category either, but they certainly belong there more than they do in traditional metal. However, I would venture to say that a LOT of "numetal" is closer to punk than it is to real metal. The two genres aren’t even that different in the first place if you strip them down.
Sabbath could also be – probably more readily – considered quintessencial too, and in that case, they’ve influenced most of metal, and most definitely SOAD.
Sabbath has more or less influenced any band with powerful distorted guitars.
But this is besides the point. Those two bands are far more similiar and influential upon SOAD than the dead kennedys – if you have some more examples I’ll consider them. SOAD are metal, as weak and simple as their music can be at times. They are not punk.
I’d appreciate it if you wouldn’t bend my words. I didn’t say they were punk. If you didn’t catch this in my last post, it’s still there.
If we’re going to talk style and rhythm, then we’re going to get into the semantics of genre, and bust open an entire can of worms that I’d rather would stay shut. You could put together different bands from different genres with an arbitrary third party and say "which does this sound similar to," then declare the third party of the closest genre…but that wouldn’t prove much.
What would prove much, then? Saying "no they aren’t"?
And genres are nothing but semantics. Without them, they become nonexistant. If you don’t want to get into them, there’s not much more we can say than "nuh uh you’re wrong."
And I reread your last post and revoke any accusation of you saying they were punk, my bad, my bad.
I’m not sure how to put SOAD into a genre, though. I see what you’re getting at and in part agree, I just can’t see them being that punky. Maybe I need to listen to more punk. Or maybe it’s just that I didn’t like that much punk to begin with and I’m in denial.
And as for NIN, I guess they undoubtedly have a metal aspect since all industrial more or less does. But I’ve just never even seen anybody associate them, so it stranged me out. But I mostly hear about NIN from my friend Cullen, who’s really into industrial and hardcore, and kind of hates metal, so that’s probably why.
I listen to anything rock exept emo. I still like metal just cuz of the fact that it is metal tho’. I really don’t know many metal bands but I have listened to Mudvayne, Metallica,Cradle of Filth, Fear Factory, Six Feet Under,and some other ones that I can’t quite remember. Oh since I am new to metal, I hope that I did not make any mistakes by posting a band that I said is metal but is not.
Metallica, Slayer, and Megadeth started the thrash metal movement. If you listen to Metallica’s Kill’em All, or Master of Puppets, you can hear why it’s labeled thrash. Thier 90’s stuff can be put into the progressive metal catagory.
But there are too many catagories to metal, even trying to define them is like trying to find WMDs in Iraq.
I said "in my last post".. like as in the LAST thing i posted. did i say "first" post? because if i did then its my mistake but i think i can ready pretty well so it is your mistake (no sarcasm there)
But there are too many catagories to metal, even trying to define them is like trying to find WMDs in Iraq.
no u r misunderstandin here we r talkin bout TRASH metal
But there are too many catagories to metal, even trying to define them is like trying to find WMDs in Iraq.
This post has essentially burnt any bridges you had with intelligence.
There is nothing – NOTHING – EVER – that Metallica have done that even approaches prog rock.
There is nothing – NOTHING – EVER – that Metallica have done that even approaches prog rock.
I love how you can take yourself so goddamn seriously on a fucking internet message board.
It’s some kind of metal.
True story.
Pre-1990 Metallica
Pre-1990 Megadeth
Pre-1990 Slayer
Exodus
Judas Priest (Jugulator)
Testament
Pantera
Iced Earth
Machine Head
Kreator
Mastodon
Mercyful Fate
Meshuggah
Mot�rhead
Overkill
Sepultura
Venom
All these bands are worth a listen in my book.
The big five (megadeth, exodus, slayer, anthrax, and metallica) all had extremely big influences on later forms of metal, like gothic, light, speed, and ‘trash’. I’ve also heard of a style called ‘darkwave’; i guess something like Tool’s Aenima?
Wait Exuctor me and Joe have a bet going is the metal or paper?
Pre-1990 Metallica
Pre-1990 Megadeth
Pre-1990 Slayer
Exodus
Judas Priest (Jugulator)
Testament
Pantera
Iced Earth
Machine Head
Kreator
Mastodon
Mercyful Fate
Meshuggah
Mot�rhead
Overkill
Sepultura
Venom
All these bands are worth a listen in my book.
The big five (megadeth, exodus, slayer, anthrax, and metallica) all had extremely big influences on later forms of metal, like gothic, light, speed, and ‘trash’. I’ve also heard of a style called ‘darkwave’; i guess something like Tool’s Aenima?
WHAO
Wait Exuctor me and Joe have a bet going is the metal or paper?
No sir, that’s paper!
Pre-1990 Megadeth
Pre-1990 Slayer
Exodus
Judas Priest (Jugulator)
Testament
Pantera
Iced Earth
Machine Head
Kreator
Mastodon
Mercyful Fate
Meshuggah
Mot�rhead
Overkill
Sepultura
Venom
You got Priest, Venom and Motorhead right and yet you leave out Iron Maiden. That, sir, is heresy.
I read this, and at the end i thought to myself…she is right!!!!
It was a waste of time to read, but it was funny…if that makes sence???
i dont know what im on, its 3 in the morning and i havent slept in days!lol
Manson was called death metal 🙁
Dear God, save me.
Dear God, save me.Ouch… yeah, it hurt a lot me too… Don’t worry, it’s going to get even worse… I recently heard that Slipknot is a death metal. THAT was something.
But nothing compares to people calling bands like Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park and such nu-metal… Can’t find a connection though, no matter how hard I try. It’s just a nu-tone music.
seriously could u list some more names of metal bands because i get a boner when u do that
jesus….a discussion about dimmu being a black metal band or not?? it IS a black metal band, have ur ever even heard their old shit? if ur gonna put it in ONE genre then it have to be black metal. black metal can have a lot of gothic in it and still be a pure black metal band….didnt u know that? take satyricon for example..they are what u can call gothic-black metal. btw is any of those black metal bands u mentioned american?…cause i cant find any GOOD american black metal bands. a little help…
Thanks Everyone.
I think i will !